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I'M AT THE TOP OF MY GAME

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I'M AT THE TOP OF MY GAME
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SURE, I'M STILL HYPER. LET'S GO.
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Delthea > Mae
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Celica > everyone else
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>It seems the Goddess smiles upon me
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>>381128430
He deserves it for being such a fucking dork
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le mommy walks with me
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>>381128736
At least his voice is nice.
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>Faye never ever gets to fuck alm
fucking gay game, even tharja got the dick she wanted
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Can I skip Awakening and Fates? Gaiden looks a lot better.
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>>381126873
WATCH ME GO!
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I. DO NOT. LIKE YOU!
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>>381126873
>ANIMEFAGS SHITPOSTING
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>>381129064
I'M READY TO ROLL
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>>381129109
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>tfw played it in Japanese so I don't get the references
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>>381129064
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>>381129318
You're missing out, Echoes has a nice dub.
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>>381128910
Awakening isn't that bad, at least not compared to Fates as a whole. I wouldn't say it's a "must play", but it's worth a playthrough.
Skip Fates.
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>>381128906
No, she was killed by Vaike in the desert
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>>381128910
Awakening and Conquest are worth a play
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how can one man be so based that he appears in (technically) 5 games in the series and inspires the best character archetype?
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https://youtu.be/FYcqbcsBwL8

Which line is your favourite, /v/?
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>>381129926
He suffers
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>>381129926
Because he decided to stick his dick in Tatiana instead of dumb slut that caused a gigantic war for not loving her husband
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>>381130024

Clair's and Mathilda's
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>>381129926
I want his clothes.
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>>381130024
Conrads, Mathilda's, and Atlas'.
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>>381129926
>Best archtype
>Not Ogma
Pick one

Also what's your 5
FE1, FE2, FE3, FE11, FE12, Echoes, and Heroes?
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>>381130735
I had FE1, FE2, FE3, FE11, FE12, and Echoes in mind, which technically makes 6 (sue me, I'm tired)
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>>381130935
He's in Heroes as well and is really good, essentially being Ike but with a spear and horse.
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>>381128810
Who is this semen demon?
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>>381126873
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>>381131290
Silque
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>>381129507
Im of the opposite opinion

Skip awakening, Only play Conquest
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>>381131336
heh
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Has an artbook been released yet? I want to see concept art of Alm in his Conqueror attire.
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Does Mae wear panties?
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>>381129398
Fuck off dumbass.
>>381129318
You're doing it right. The English dub and memehouse translation are absolute horseshit.
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>>381132068
An artbook came with the special edition.
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are the overclass dlc worth it?
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>>381128810
Can I get the artist name?
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>>381129680
No.
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>>381132218
No. Don't you dare buy any DLC.
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>>381132140
What's the matter?
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>>381132218
I'd recommend the Rise of the Deliverance DLC.
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>>381132218
You can beat the Labyrinth without them, even without grinding. You'll need to Invoke-tank to get pass some of the lower-basement enemies, especially the Entombed
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>>381132140
>memehouse translation
Echoes wasn't translated by Treehouse, retard
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>>381132218
not even a little
t. actually bought the DLC
I had more money than I knew what to do with at the time

The only DLC that's worth it is the item grinding one if you want crazy OP units, and maybe the rise of the deliverance ones. If you want extra units, those might be worth it if they ever get released here.
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>>381133396
>If you want extra units, those might be worth it if they ever get released here.
Turns out they are releasing both in Japan and in the west on June 22nd.
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>>381133862
>cipher units get released in west
>cipher never ever
i just want qt card art of characters I like

Did they announce this in one of the treehouse videos? Did they announce anything alongside it?
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WHERE IS THE VALENTIA REGALIA

FUCK, I'M TIRED OF FIGHTING ALL OF THESE DEATH MASKS IN B9
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>>381134785
Forge blessed weapons, gradivus can also be found in the ending dungeon
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>>381135023
I was talking about shit like Astra and stuff, but I never knew that. Was wondering where Parthia and Mercurius went
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>>381134419
No, this is from the most recent Cipher stream Japan routinely has when a new set releases so they can show off the new cards it brings and tease the next two sets. Silver lining is we FINALLY have Sacred Stones on the horizon, but they're gonna be two sets away so we're looking at near the end of the year for them.
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>>381134785
>>381135393

I think they're supposed to be in the Thabes Labyrinth in the two lowest levels but they have a really low (1 to 1.25%) appearance rate and you have to smash pots/crates and/or kill enemies until they show up. Even then, you won't know what you have until they're forged because they'll be in a rusted state when you get them.
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>>381135572
>release overclasses, great ways to power up units, and a bunch of OP end-game items
>no NG+, lunatic mode, postgame levels after labyrinth, etc.
>hard mode is more than easy enough to beat without grinding, bar the final dungeon mostly
Why
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>>381128910
They're not in the same universe or anything so you totally can
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>>381126873
I'm disappointed in how very little lewd fanart Mae has.
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Anybody else in love with the new mechanic where characters will comment after other units do battle?

>I'm glad you're on our side
It's a really minor addition but I love it.
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>>381136403
All the small shit they do in echoes gives it a lot of charm
>Alm's fucking stupid puns and jokes on random things in the world
>all the things Celica says about cats
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>>381133862
I'm glad I stopped playing so that I can actually use the cipher characters on my play through. Shade looks great.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u55JMw5bRiI

This is the best final map theme prove me wrong

I liked CQ's alot but since I hated the writing and characters it felt alot less, impactful, while in echoes I loved the characters and writing and actually restarted to make sure everyone lived.
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>>381130024
Valbar, Lucas, and Zeke's are GOAT
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>>381129064
NOBODY LIKES A BULLY
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>>381129926
>tfw Zeke doesn't join your army till the end of the game and your stuck using Clive's useless ass
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>>381134785
You can farm luna from guardians that spawn in grima's battle. 1% but I got it around turn 50. Apparently astra drops from the deathgoyle that spawns but the rate is insanely low. I tried grinding the dlc for free but that shit is draining when only the big pots drop them and sometimes those pots don't even spawn.
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Easy pickings
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>>381138087
>not using the obviously superior Mathilda
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>>381138087
>What is Mathilda
Mathilda is a war goddess
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I really like the story in echoes, but GOD DAMN the gameplay is so boring. It's all just open maps and shit like that, I honestly can't stand it anymore. The only reason I'm still playing is because the story is actually entertaining.
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Is it time?
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>>381138267
>>381138223

Mathilda is fucking crazy.

>Clive as a level 7 paladin
>14 Str, 10 skill, 9 spd, 8 luck, 10 def, 2 res

>Mathilda as a level 7 paladin
>14 Str, 16 skill, 16 speed, 17 luck, 11 def, 10 res

holy fuck
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>all these waifufags
>failing to realize Kliff is best girl
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>>381138398
That's rather intentional. As far game play goes, they intended for it to be as straight of a remake as possible.

The director apparently had fond memories of playing the original with his father when he was a child and essentially just wanted to slap a new coat of paint on the graphics & expand upon the story, which you had to read the manual to find out the details.
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>>381126873
>>381127951
>I'M AT THE TOP OF MY GAME
>SURE, I'M STILL HYPER. LET'S GO.

the words Boey hears every night and the reason they have lots of kids
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>>381138995
Mathilda in Heroes when? Who will be the artist?
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>>381138995
TRAIN HARDER!
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Mae is ___
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>>381139428
primo boner material my dude
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Is Echoes good?
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>>381138995
Clive is a lucky man to have her
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>>381128910
Yes, Echoes is ten times better than those games.
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>>381129064
Fucking perfection
>11/10 design
>best invoke, even comes early
>expel to deal with bullshit early on
>physics
I want to take care of this sheep
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>>381129360
enjoy your glorified reinhardt killer, ill just use and melee character and a dancer
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>>381128906
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>>381132140
Friendly reminder that Japanese games contain memes and the only reason you think they're better is because you don't understand them, weebshit.
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>>381138998
Kliff a cute
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>>381132140
>he actually thinks the Echoes dub is bad
Literally neck yourself. It's one of the best english dubs in any mediea, really
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>>381139585
I appreciate how they made the bars transparent just so we could see the titty
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Your dick is not good enough.
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>>381138193
COME AT ME FOOLS
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>>381139724
Melia at least knew when to back off.
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>>381139585
You could lose your keys in that cleavage.
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>>381126873
>Terrible maps
>AI was made bad on purpose
>Cantors and Witch Summoners are not fun
>Great art for the main characters, but no so good for the enemies
>Most bosses are literal whos who have two lines of dialogue
>DLC costs more than the whole game
>Realism sometimes is so good a single enemy managed to ride a huge boat all alone
>True love makes you constatly think of a person that you haven't talked with for seven years even when you're a children
>Limited number of supports
>Most of them are not that good
>"Alm, I'm so happy that you're- Wait! You're going to fight the empire?! But you're no even a royal! Goodbye, Alm! You're an asshole."
>Only two playable characters added from the original game
>One is almost a Yandere and is there just to add one more unrequited love for literally Unrequited Love: The Game
>The other is an obvious plot twist
>The theme of the story is that no matter where you came from, you can become important. Yet, the protagonist only managed to do what he did because he was a blue blood
>Apparently if you're a female and a playable character in Alm's route you have to be locked up because of an attempt of rape or because you're important (sometimes both)
>Obvious plot twists
>I guess at least the OST were amazing
Yet, some Fire Emblem fans praised this game as if it was the best game ever. Was Fates so bad that anything that is above average is now considered amazing?
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>>381140001
>literally such an awful unit I promoted him early just to get some use out of him, something I never fucking do

WHY is Valbar's team so shit?
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>>381139530
It's ok. Its presentation is phenomenal but the maps are pretty fucking boring at times. Celica's path in particular can be a real slog, primarily taking place on desert and swamp maps. That's not saying the gameplay is a lost cause, but there's not too much room for thought compared to the other entries.
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>>381128906
she only gets silque for support
and that's too good for her
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>>381139602
God I wish she had more of a role. I love her but she's such a nonfactor.
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>>381139530
The game play is considered dated by some, but that is to be expected as it's a straight remake of the, then, second game in the series. They were still figuring things out as to what they wanted to do with the series.

As for the story, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I would share details but I don't want to spoil it for you. The voice acting is top notch, especially for one of the antagonist characters.
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>>381138995

At this rate, she's gonna leave my fucking Alm in the dust.
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>Get to the tower
>6+ floors
>Force encounters
>Random encounters too
>Search for the springs
God that place was awful. The dungeon parts are nice to break up just doing battle after battle but that shit was just boring, long, and annoying.
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>>381139530
If you like FE games, you'll like Echoes
pros
>great story
>great art, voice acting, music, and general comfyness
>abilities are a nice change of pace from old games
>decent replay value due to reclassing, variety of villagers
>none of the DLC is needed to get the most out of the game, other than maybe new characters/stories
>don't really need to grind to progress with the story since it's not that difficult
>cast is bland, but likable

cons
>shit maps
>too easy, even on hard
>faye exists
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>>381140470
Dragonhaze is a ridiculous skill
>>381140419
>one of the antagonist characters
UNNNCLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>381140372
Yeah, all optional recruits got screwed in that manner. I don't even know why they made optional recruits outside of Faye and kliff, there's literally no reason to reject them since you can just bench them
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>>381139585
even Fernand wanted that
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>>381140660
Just wait until Thabes in post game. Fucking hell I still haven't done it because the enemies on the lower floors just reek of bad game design.
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>>381139428
a coalburner
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>>381140419
>The game play is considered dated by some, but that is to be expected as it's a straight remake of the, then, second game in the series
I don't know, Shadow Dragon was a remake of the very first game, and I personally had no problem with it, but that's not saying much.

I'll give you this in that it's way different compared to the other titles, gameplay and mechanics-wise.
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>>381140796
>the memory prism between him and Mathilda

The poor guy; he was doomed to be Clive's wingman
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>>381140952
A lot of things in this game do, honestly.
>enemies that get to move first when you don't get to deploy
>everything about Witches
>class balance in general
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>>381140295
>>Terrible maps
Nice meme
>AI was made bad on purpose
FE has never had good AI, Echoes' is actually better than usual, with units that will fall back when hurt.
>>Cantors and Witch Summoners are not fun
Expel and Coral Ring are your friends, baddie.
>Great art for the main characters, but no so good for the enemies
It has ever been thus.
>Most bosses are literal whos who have two lines of dialogue
It has ever been thus. Also, NES game.
>DLC costs more than the whole game
This is admittedly bullshit, but you've got Awakening to thank for this, and it's largely nonessential crutches for bad players rather than actual new content.
>Realism sometimes is so good a single enemy managed to ride a huge boat all alone
When has this series ever been realistic? That said, the Cantor can just have his summons crew the ship, surely.
>True love makes you constatly think of a person that you haven't talked with for seven years even when you're a children
Children of destiny, anon.
>Limited number of supports
>Most of them are not that good
The original had none. Supports are a nonessential feature, it's nice that they were included at all.
>"Alm, I'm so happy that you're- Wait! You're going to fight the empire?! But you're no even a royal! Goodbye, Alm! You're an asshole."
The game itself points out that the fight was just dumb kids being dumb.
>Only two playable characters added from the original game
How is this a complaint?
>>One is almost a Yandere and is there just to add one more unrequited love for literally Unrequited Love: The Game
No, it's to appease Tharjafags. "Crazy bitch" is now a permanent archetype thanks to her.
>The other is an obvious plot twist
But a fun one.
>The theme of the story is that no matter where you came from, you can become important.
If Grey isn't one of your top fighters I dunno what you did wrong.
>Obvious plot twists
Name a FE plot twist that was genuinely surprising and not an asspull. You might be able to do it but I can't.
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>>381140796
I think we found the real reason he left the Deliverance
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>>381140952
they purposefully kept game mechanics the same as they were in Gaiden to stay faithful; there's an interview that mentions it. I think they specifically mentioned enemy AI was kept the same. That's why Witches act so bizarrely.
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>>381140952
I actually had to do the tower twice because a character I used up all my turnwheel because of awful luck with getting crit and awful witches.
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>>381129064
she only likes them older
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>>381139530
Echoes is pretty much the Sacred Stones of the 3DS era.
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>>381126873
>still barely any porn from Echoes
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>>381132068
>>381132191
Doesn't have conquest attire Alm art unfortunately (pic is my artbook). Still, what art it does have is pretty nice.
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>>381141521
But she married Saber. He's not that much older, right?
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>>381140713
I liked how Ian Sinclair portrayed Berkut's spiral into madness after he felt he had lost everything that mattered. I just wish he hadn't taken Rinea down with him. You sweet, naive girl.
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All dirtcrawlers and farmhands must leave this thread at once.
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>>381141591
probably quite a bit older
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>>381141521
well considering that she's like 14, I don't think that'll be an issue.
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>>381141591
She's 15 and he's 34.
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>>381141662
His voice acting was amazing, as was his music. He can really bring the ham.
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>>381141591
>she married Saber
does she actually? I didn't think it said in-game
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>>381141901
Nah, it's implied. Saber marries a mysterious wife who was also an ally, and Genny marries a mysterious older man she doesn't talk about.
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>milas wings are from her hair
I can't imagine her actually flying like this
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>>381128810

SAUCE PLEASE
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>>381141749
>>381141591
>no support dialogue in game
>endings don't specifically mention each other
>don't change if one dies
you ship is fake and gay.
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>>381132218
Overclass dlc is horribly designed from a conceptual level. You aren't likely to get to level 20 to begin with unless you excessively grind, at which point who gives a shit. But then you actually look at the classes themselves and many of them just don't look good period. The benefits offered by some of the classes are just laughable. Celica's overclass looks like ass and just gains the ability to cast Aura, which isn't even good. Knights gain no extra movement and bow knights actually lose 1 move upon promotion(granted they get an extra range on their bow which is great). The bases for the classes are barely higher than the 2nd tier class, meaning they won't really fix a character if they get completely screwed since you most likely won't gain anything on promotion. For most classes overclasses may as well be an extra 20 levels to level and that's it. To top it off mages actually forget their spells and force you to relearn them(pic related). I don't know what they were thinking with this shit.

Also the worst crime is they no longer have unique color schemes anymore, opting for a generic model.
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>>381141583
Wait, that is not in my limited edition artbook, from where it is?
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>>381141901
It's fan cannon
Genny marries and unnamed man and Saber marries and unnamed woman and Genny has the line about liking older men.

That's literally everything that supports the theory. They both still have the same ending even if the other one dies.
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>>381128810
lovely silque
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>that prism of Berkut and Rinea
:(
Fucking Rudolf and his world-saving shenanigans.
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>>381128810
MOMMY GIVE ME THE MILKIES
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I AM THE BONE OF MY SWORD
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>>381129926
What archetype? He looks really cool.
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>>381128810
>>381142348
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>>381142248
5th page anon. The one before tobin and fayes art. I have the european limited edition so maybe there's a difference between it and the american one.
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>>381142352
Why didn't Rudolf just tell Mycen to tell Alm what was going to happen?
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>>381142565
Walls have ears. Would have been less dangerous for the plan (albeit more cruel on Alm) for Alm to just figure it out on his own.
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>>381142565
Because he needed to be tutored properly to fulfill his role and you'd fuck it up by telling him what lies ahead.
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>>381142549
I have the American version of the art book and it's the exact same as that image >>381141583.
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The writing in this game was mostly good but holy fuck could the foreshadowing have been any less subtle?

>this is my grandfather Mycen
>uh no he never had any kids
>that's all just RUMORS lol

>Alm why can you use the Royal Sword, you're not a royal right?
>must be a myth
>Yeah but Tobin can't use it
>lol nope I'm just a regular old guy ha ha

>now we're in Ridel wow this snow feels FAMILIAR i'm not sure why but it feels like I've BEEN HERE before perhaps a VERY LONG TIME AGO lol
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>>381141102
>Nice meme
Maps like the swamp and the desert make me want to smash my 3DS and except two or three exceptions all of them were kinda of boring and uninspired for me
>It has ever been thus.
Kozaki wasn't amazing, but he did a good job with Kilma, for example
>Children of destiny, anon.
>It has ever been thus. Also, NES game.
Still bad
>No, it's to appease Tharjafags. "Crazy bitch" is now a permanent archetype thanks to her.
Lmao
>But a fun one
True
>If Grey isn't one of your top fighters I dunno what you did wrong.
You know what I was trying to say, Anon
>Name a FE plot twist that was genuinely surprising and not an asspull. You might be able to do it but I can't.
I like the ones in Radiant Dawn and that one from Genealogy, but they might be considered asspulls.
>>381141659
Still, she was already being unfair to him before that.
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>>381140295
It's not that Alm was a Blueblood, it's that he was a fated child. It's the mark on his hand that makes him the guy - he could ACTUALLY have been a peasant and he still would've been the guy to do it.
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>>381142549
You are right anon, is here, i am retarded.
But will there be a true echoes artbook, with 250+ pages?
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>>381142242
>beat echoes on hard already, get the urge to replay it with everyone in different classes
>bought overclass DLC since I have more money than brains
>immediately regretted it
welp, at least it's only 15 dollars, even though I probably won't actually get anyone to reclassing

Honestly though, if you want to break characters, just get the high level dlc starshard map and break everyone's growth rates. You can fix every problem character with it and make the game even easier. Don't even need over classes when you're turning everyone into a god by their first promotion.

I also got the cipher characters, the high-level star shard map to break growth rates, and the rise of the deliverance packs.
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>>381142272
>fan canon

that's the absolute gayest thing I've ever heard, and you should be embarrassed to have even acknowledged something so unbelievably retarded
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FE SWITCH SPOILERS. MY DAD WORKS AT ARCHANEA.
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>>381143401
Is this a reference to something? I feel like it is.
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The only DLC worth is the cipher characters one, i glad managed to stop playing so those characters are actually relevant in the game.
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>>381143070
That shit was so hamfisted
>Celica had a brother but he DIED in the fire on their house
>no way he escaped when she totally did too
>who is this mysterious redhead who knows who Celica is that showed up to help her?

Like they didn't need to be so overt about either of the twists, they ruined them chapters before either reveal and took a lot of wind out of the big moments of the game.
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>>381143243
I imagine probably seeing how expansive the Fire Emblem Awakening artbook is. This one is very much a spoiler free artbook so there'll probably be one.
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>>381143565
Well, he wasn't in the gaiden, as far as I remember.
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You Fire Emblem fags are lucky. You get fucking Hidari when we Xenofags get a low quality hentai artist as a designer.
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>>381143565
>about either the twists
Because they never meant to be gametwisting revelations. It's all about the build-up and where it leads next.
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>>381143664
This is true, he's one of the 2 new characters.
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>>381128810

Reverse Image search brings up nothing, sauce?
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>>381143698
>fire emblem will never have low quality hentai artists redesigning our characters again
best part of awakening desu
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>>381143698
I enjoy both.
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>>381136976
I can't

Sacred Stones is close, though
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>>381140295
>Realism sometimes is so good a single enemy managed to ride a huge boat all alone
The implication was that the Cantor hitched a ride on a pirate ship and then slaughtered the crew.
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>>381142352
>be Rudolf
>give up son to save him from the Duma faithful
>entrust him to bff Mycen
>tell Mycen no to tell anyone
>Mycen somehow gets drunk and lets that shit slip in front of Desaix
>tell Mycen you want him to eventually kill you and take over the empire
>Mycen has him go live on farm in bumfuck nowhere
>trains him to be a beast
>war comes
>Rigel invades Zofia
>soldiers from the deliverance come to recruit
>perfect chance to guide Alm to Rigel and execute the plan
>decide "naw fuck that"
>Alm goes by himself
>takes back Zofia castle
>go meet him there
>don't actually help
>don't bother telling Celica the castle is free
>don't join Alm in battle till most of the hard work's already been done
>Alm kills his own fucking father
>meet up after
>"no time for crying boy, we gotta go kill your only other living relative"
Mycen worst Grandpapa
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>>381143505
It's basically Azura's story from Fates
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>>381143795
Not on Sankaku Channel or Delbooru either. Could this be OC?
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>>381144140
>already brainstorming a sequel
oh no
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>>381143964
Ah, I missed that. I guess I'll have to take it back, then. Sorry.
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>>381143565
To be fair, I'm pretty sure they wanted the player to figure it out before the reveal. The payoff of THE MASKED MAN isn't his identity, but that he's a massive dork when he takes off the mask.
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>>381143698

Xenofag here. Ignore this fag.
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>>381143565
who here thought Celica was gonna drop Alm and fugg the masked knight? Thats what I thought at first.

Conrad kinda gave off a weird incesty vibe in support dialogue with Celica too.
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>>381143698
At least Xenoblade 2 has a great soundtrack. Even though Echoes has great art AND a great soundtrack.
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>>381144749
Quite dashing.
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>>381144264
>mfw FE on Switch is a fucking sequel to Fates
I can't believe I'm saying that I would unironically prefer an Awakening sequel instead. What the hell has this series come to?
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>>381128175
Disgusting, her artstyle is trash and doesn't fit in game.
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>>381144749
Technically they're only half-siblings, since each of the king's children was from a different girl in his harem.
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>>381144602
Spotted the degenerate who jerks off to lolis with big boobs.
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>>381144749
What is it with FE and incest?
>Raquesis and Eldigan
>Eirika and Ephraim
>the way Lucina acts towards her dad in Awakening
>being able to marry your siblings/cousins in Fates/Awakening
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>>381144868
I think they're cashing in on DBZ's Universe battle and they're going to do something similar to FE. The true ending to Fates pretty much established the multiverse in Fire Emblem.
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>>381128293
why did they have to make it so hard to have her join you army? it's not fair damn it!
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>>381145003
>with FE and incest
Well, it's a medieval europe simulator.
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>killing the nigger grey so he doesnt fuck white pussy claire
seriously hope you guys did this
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>>381145073
>hard
literally just get her down to low health and she runs for the nearest heal spot
>>381145135
I appreciate the authenticity at least
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>>381145135
>medieval europe simulator
maybe at first
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>>381144868
>FE switch is actually FE: Echoes Flames of Jaungral
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>>381145073
>use that Alm skill on her leaving with 1 hp
>stands around not being able to attack
Really hard.
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>>381145135
>hard
What the hell? it's easy as fuck.
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>>381145259
Mispost?
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>>381145184
Hey, are you telling me german knights didn't fight evil dragons? Because I call bs.
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>>381126873
JUSTICE REIGNS
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>>381145073
use clerics to teleport Alm into the center of the fortress and have him doublelion the boss of the level
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>>381145304
Yeah, sorry.
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>>381145150
Grey was my mvp so he can fuck anyone he wants since I don't selfinsert.>>381145360
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>>381145360
>having Double Lion at that point

Man some people go hard on the grinding.
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>>381144868
I honestly wouldn't mind a prequel or sequel to Fates, anything to give the world in that more foundation.
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>>381145073
>hard
It's easy as fuck tho, you only need like 3 units to use as bait and hope she doesn't get a fucking crit.
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>>381144237

N-NANI
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>>381145150
>niggers in medieval Europe
he is tan you numb skull
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>>381144868
But Fates was a good game.
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So echoes bombed in Japan with not even reaching 200k sales. How well will it do in the western market /v/?
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>>381145150
>tfw Claire will never fuck Alm and birth the ultimate warrior king
>tfw Alm with mate with that scrawny bitch Celica and produce sub par weaklings that will never reach his level of badassery
>tfw Claire will birth half brown monkey dirt flinging commoner children
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>>381145685
CQ had great maps and good gameplay
that is it
The other 2 were ass in every which way
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>>381145736
technically echoes "reached expectations" in japan.

which isn't great, infact i'd say thats still bad, but enough to make a small profit and thats it.
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>>381145736
Not much better considering lack of any promotion.
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>>381145736
even shittier since only weebs even know what FE is in the west and they'll automatically hate that there's no waifu bait dating sims and light novel shit.
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>>381145782
birthright is pretty fun until about half way through, at which point map design gets thrown out the window.
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>>381145736
i did my part and bought the season pass, every FE game should be remade like this.
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>>381145747
Those half brown monkey dirt flinging commoner children will solo any army you care to field against them, anon.
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>>381141580
this
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>>381130024
The Metal Gear SOlid refferences with Saber and that other Kazuhira dude
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>>381145782
>CQ had great maps and good gameplay
>that is it
that's all it needs
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>>381145231
I'd be more than okay with that.
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>>381145150
Grey looks more like a pajeet than anything.
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So, who has the best english voice?
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>>381146527
No it is not.
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>>381146635
Lord Berkut
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>>381146527
The mediocore music, and being the nadir of every aspect in terms of writting (story, characters, world building etc) really brings it down. also the gameplay later on turns into shit due to poor hp balance, everyone becomes more or less a glass cannon, foes including which results in a fucking knight (effie) being the best unit in the game. If you would have told me a fucking knight would be the best unit in a fe game I would have laughed at your face a few years ago.
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>tfw mage Conrad gets fucking Excalibur and Sagittae on lv 1
Why the fuck did he become a Cavalier? Nigga was born for this shit.
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>>381146635
Berkut

his dialogue was fucking gold
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>>381146859
autism
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>>381146948
Not an argument
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>>381145747
>Alm's descendant is Walhart
I dunno. I'd say he did a pretty good job. Too bad he was destined to lose to Marth's descendant and a literal who tactician, though.
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>>381146924
>fight him for the first time
>he runs up to Alm
>SHWING
>"KNOW YOUR PLACE!"
>crits Alm and brings him down to 1 HP
It was so fitting I almost thought it was scripted.
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>>381146859
>The mediocore music
shit taste
>also the gameplay later on turns into shit due to poor hp balance, everyone becomes more or less a glass cannon
oh no not everyone is an invincible juggernaut, this is clearly bad design
>foes including which results in a fucking knight (effie) being the best unit in the game
nowhere near the best. not even the best in her own niche when xander does everything better except kill ninja.
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>>381144237
Man. I fucking need that.
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>>381147123
if you think effie is the best unit in the game why would i bother with an actual argument autismo
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>>381146859
>knight effie is the best unit in the game
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>>381136976
I actually preffered the theme vs King Rudolff. I don't know, it felt like you where actually in the decisive, final battle and after that everything would be over, even if you knew it wasn't the final chapter. Like the final battle in Two Towers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiIaKksuwV0
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>>381147130
>Alm's descendent loses to Marth's descendant who's aided by the incarnation of his game's superboss

Not a totally unreasonable situation to lose in
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>>381146924
his dialogue and the voice were both gold
I could practically taste the absolute despair in his lines.
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>>381141901
It's ambiguous enough because of the way their endings are written. If they're both alive then it's potentially possible they do get together because of how ambiguous it's written, but if one of them dies then it's whatever because both spouses are unnamed mooks/anonymous so it doesn't affect the other. Also, Gaiden specifically mentions Genny marrying one of her travelling companions, and with Echoes characterizing her liking older guys it's a high possibility.
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>>381139530
Amazing music and art, very entertaining writting, good characters, and good maps. The main issue are the open maps and the ack of customization of characters, but the last thing you don't actually need.
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>>381146918
Well he was trained by a sage.
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>>381140326
You're shit. Leon and Kamui are the MVPs of Celica's team, and Valbar is a pretty good wall
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>>381141529
a shitty game overrated by contrarians?
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>>381146924
UNCLE
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>>381145657
what is Basilio
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>>381148170
To be fair Awakening is 1000 years after Gaiden.
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>>381147423
Robin is a vessel, not an incarnation. Dude wasn't even worthy of housing Grima at the start of the game.
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>>381146918
He's a dork who really wants to look cool. That's literally his reason.
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>>381147215
I dont know man, Xander really fall off for me, GK effie recked alot of face.

Music is kinda medicore my man.

>oh no not everyone is an invincible juggernaut, this is clearly bad design

You clearly missed my point, in that everyone is a glass cannon even the foes. Defense pair up completely trumps attack pair up for this reason


>>381147303
>>381147348
Maybe I was being a bit hyperbolic but my point still stands that effie, starting of as a knight and being one of the best is shocking.
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>>381136403
Those after-battle lines when the unit dies were pretty surprising and tragic.
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>>381148896
>that everyone is a glass cannon even the foes.
you want to know why bennie is low tier? because he gains so much def the ai stops attacking him.
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>>381149016
Oh shit I forgot to mention this, another strong point CQ has is its a.i. Good job IS, hopefully next game you focus less on waifu shit and more on writting.
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>oh man, I wonder if that VO director will work on new FE games
>that Warriors trailer
I hope he'll get to do the switch title at least.
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>>381148626
>who really wants to look cool
Make me wonder what kinda stuff he wrote while ignoring all the hoes that swooned over him after the events of the game.
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>>381149223
you have no points so now you're going for the low hanging fruit. kill yourself.
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>>381148896
you don't even know how to spell mediocre
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>>381126873
>Finally rolled her for a team of twintails
Best girl
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>>381135538
Ah. Finally doing sacred stones in cipher ,huh?
and a cute Myrrh too
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>>381143574
>Meanwhile almost none of the Fates characters have full body portraits since no real artbook exists
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>you'll never be leon
>you'll never get your butt destroyed by valbar while he moan his dead wife's name
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>>381149302
anon, every unit, friend and foe being able to get killed off in a few hits is fucking shit my man. early game in CQ is great when you can mix and match offensive stance and defensive stance makes for a fun game but later on it becomes turtle, the game. Their is also no incentive to make you go on the offensive. save for that one map where you put down a rebellion and 1 or 2 brigands shows up and thats it.
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>>381149976
Valbar ain't no fag
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>>381149324
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>>381149976
Valvar is not a fag, hell, i think he doesn't even know the concept as gay archer moves confused him instead of creeping him out
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>no interaction between Alm and Celica's party
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Is the late-game grinding DLC worth it? Like the growth shards, weapon farming, and gold mark.
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>>381150190
You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Conquest is a relatively fast LTC.
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>>381148896
>Music is kinda medicore my man.
The OST is one of the best in the series. The only game that would rate higher than it would be Awakening and Genealogy.
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>>381146924
How am I to remain calm in the face of defeat in the hands of PEASANTS?!
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>>381150190
Also how fitting that faggots who default into turtling when the game gets slightly hard hates the game that punishes turtling.
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>>381151104
Weapon farming and growth shards are the same dlc. There's two maps, one which is for "early game" and one that's "late game". This is true for the grinding map and money one. Money one is pretty pointless since you don't really need a huge amount of money and Thabes/ingame events gives you a decent amount. I don't think you can even get gold coins from either map so it's pretty pointless. Just get your money selling extras from the item dlc. The item dlc is nice but you only really need the higher level(inner sanctum) one since it's the only way to get the Jacinth. Enemies will be strong but you can somewhat easily ignore them anyways. The high level grinding dlc is actually kinda nice since every monster gives at least 20 exp or something, so it's not like awakening where you eventually stop getting exp period.
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>>381151325
and you missed my point, there is no incentive to go fast you can take it nice and easy which is one of the faults in gameplay that CQ has.

that map when takumi is on the great wall is a big example of how CQ fucked up. I was just standing there taking my time making sure my units are nice and safe before I sent them out since one: no theives and 2: ballistis dont kill anymore which is bullshit.
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>>381151802
enemies can rarely spawn with gold marks in the second money dlc. some of them can even spawn with gold purses. you can also make so much silver off the mobs that you can afford to convert them to gold.
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>>381151768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qVQcwnuBfU
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>>381142456
It's named after him; Camus archetype.
A noble character forced to fight for the enemy army, either through loyalty or circumstance, who is depicted as a good person tragically pitted against the player's army. Usually unrecruitable.
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>>381152003
ballistae traded kill capacity for AoE damage
the only real fuck up on that map was the stairs
having a thief spawn on that map would be weird
it's also nice to have a relatively gimmick free map that late into conquest. i enjoyed the atmosphere of that map. pretty much the only time in fates where you feel like you're fighting a war.
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>>381132105
It's best to pretend she doesn't.
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>>381152003
You have no fucking point. Just because you're too limp dicked to take risks doesn't mean the game needs to incentivize you to play offensive every chapter. They already do it with ch 9, 11, 17 and 21.
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SLUICE
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>>381152482
>11
*12
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>>381152041
I did it several times and never saw the gold carrying enemies, how fucking rare are they? But yeah, you can convert silver to gold but you'll end up with a shit load of silver anyways trying to get the Star Jacinth/legendary weapons. Unless you're going for the "30 gold" achievement or whatever the ingame currency plus whatever you scrounge up from the item dlc is more than enough from my experience.

Also gold purses? As in they drop multiple gold?
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>>381152510
I'd sluice her gate if you know what I mean
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>>381152482
you cant just ignore my point by saying I have no point anon. Stop ignoring the game's faults. Why the fuck would I take risks if their is no incentive? Its shit tier game design and is a fuck up. Poor hp scaling on both friend is foe is another fuck up. near the laterish chapters Defense pair up is to fucking good, turning half your army into stat backpacks again. This are all my points/criticism on the gameplay of FE CQ.
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>>381150715
He knew Leon was gay as fuck for him, but Leon is a cool enough fag to know not to make a move on him.
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>>381152687
Gold purses contain 5 gold marks. You can get one from the free DLCs.
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>>381151491
https://youtu.be/feWBhuWx_T8?t=46m
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>>381152974
They give you incentive to play offensive I just named FOUR chapters where they do you fucking retard.
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>>381152510
Watch me Sluice right in!
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>want the 4 star Legion
>i am so shit that I can't get him
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>>381153564
Just invest 2000 feathers to promote him
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>>381153321
neat. Still want to know how rare gold carrying enemies are in that because I don't think I've seen a single one in the 5 or so runs I did of that dlc.
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>>381153648
But I wanted 2
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>>381126873
Mae is so cute and such a strong unit!
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>>381152510
this game actually expanded my vocabulary. Hoydenism is an amazing word
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>>381153379
me saying the game does not give me incentive was my replay to you calling me a limp dicked faggot, idiot. Why would't I be a limp dicked faggot in every chapter that I can? I know there are chapters were there is an incentive to hurry up and I even mentioned it so you missed my point due to your blind fanboyism for CQ.

Also just FOUR chapters that have anti turtling incentive is weak sauce. In every FE game when there is a village or a chest, there are either thieves or bandit. they are some exceptions of course but in FE CQ, its the other way around which makes it rather lame. I do not think there was a single thief in CQ.
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what's better Keeping the Blessed Lance as is or turning it into the Gradivus?
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>>381126873
>Yeah, but considering your game, that isn't saying much!
>DOHOHOHOHOHO
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>>381153105
Nope man, he literally doesn't get it, he asked him why he doesn't get himself a gorl and he basically answer "ewwww! Girls are ewww!" Which confuses valvar even more.
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>>381154636
I'm pretty sure by their A Rank he gets why Leon doesn't go after girls.
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>>381154215
You mentioned ONE chapter and I gave you FOUR with incentive off the top of my head.

>In every FE game when there is a village or a chest, there are either thieves or bandit. they are some exceptions of course but in FE CQ, its the other way around which makes it rather lame.
Yeah instead they turned that concept on its head and had two soldiers run to villages calling in reinforcments unless you get there first with a prize if you manage to get to 3 of them.
>fuck creative concepts give me the same shit I've gotten for 20 years
This is your fucking argument.
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>>381126873
it happens often in Fire emblem , Mae
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Are Neutral IV 5* better?

I got a +Spd/-Res Male Corrin that I can unlock into a 5* and merge him with a Neutral 5* Male Corrin.
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>>381154284
You get a Gradivus in Duma's Tower, and Blessed Lance's anti terror properties is pretty handy.

If you're going to spend the ludicrous amount of gold to get one of the regalia, go for Parthia, since its weapon skill lets you cheese the bonus boss.
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>>381139428
cute! CUTE!
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>>381155228
Neutral is almost never the best option
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>>381155013
Yes and that chapter was GOAT, I am not saying that was bad at all you idiot am saying every other chapter you can turtle it out with no punishment and all the reward compared to other games in which you miss out on a unit or some sweet items. Stop putting words into my mouth you cretin
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>>381136578
>Alm: What a hot forge, I wouldn't wanna work that in the summer.
>Celica: The forge is so hot... It must be nice in the winter.
Perfection
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>>381155228
>+Spd Corrin

Doesn't Yato give you fucking Spd if you initiate combat?
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>>381142476
remind me somewhat of Palutena
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>>381138970
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>>381155516
you're really stretching that 'every other' chapter and pretending past FEs didn't have slower paced chapters too
>turtlefags
just end your life honestly
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>>381126873
Mae is trash. Sonya is much better in Celica's route
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>>381157080
I never other FE games did not have slower paced chapters, but CQ by far lets you get away with it the most which is a problem

>calling me a turtle fag when I want the game to give me incentive to not turtle/punish me for it

How hard is it to add theives/brigids in chapters that had chests/houses?
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>>381157070
>couples
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Why catria's voice is so deep? Is because she was NTR?
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>>381128810
NES Silque is way cuter.
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Faye is my bae
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>>381140326
Kamui turned out good for me, and Leon at least gets access to arguably the best class in the game, Bow Knight.
If his stats are shit (like mine's were), forge a longbow. Its Art immobilizes the target, which basically means Leon, despite being utterly worthless stat-wise, was still able to temporarily kill units each turn, and from a ridiculous range. It's a seriously underrated ability, but I can understand why people prefer Killer Bow on a non-stat-screwed Bow Knight.
Valbar is literally only bad because of the proliferation of magic-based units on Celica's route. Use him as much as you can as soon as you get him, so his monster physical defense can shine for the small window where it matters.
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>>381157435
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>>381157565
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>>381153564
He's a really bad unit, don't feel too bad about it.
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>>381157998
He's not bad, he's like a clunky Cherche.
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>>381157335
Come on man, Alm/Celica isn't that bad.
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>echoes true postgame, Faye goes yandere, which for some reason gives hee shitloads of power, and wages war for Alm's dick
>King Alm and co finally managed to defeat her
>Country is in ruins, thousands are dead, all the damage is more than all the previous wars together
>Understanding that all is his fucking fault, a Traumatized Alm make a law that allows polygamy, plus force the guy to accept the yandere girl whether he likes or not, or face death penalty.
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>>381145342
CAPTAIN QWAAAAAAAAAAAAARK!
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>>381158380
Celica is a shit character
>im giving up muh life to the obvious bad guy that gonna destroy the world
>im doing good
fucking retard
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most fitting artstyle yet
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>>381158463
Seems believable, my Cleric Faye was easily the most key unit in the entire game, her defense was monsterous at about 20, and with Coral Ring her resistance was at about 16 as well. That with a 22 base attack and Nosferatu's lifesteal made her an unkillable wall. Most maps were broken just be sending her off into one mob of enemy units while the rest of my army took care of the other half of enemies.
Utterly ridiculous.
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>>381158720
Good thing I listed her as half of my favourite couple, and not as my favourite female character then, rendering your comment pointless and confusing.
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>>381158720
Because the continent is dying and the only way she thinks they can save it is to revive the gods.
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So were the Duma Faithful gonna sacrifice Alm to Duma as a means of quelling Duma's madness if Rudolf didn't send him away?
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>>381132140
>Its an english dub is automatically shit because of my superiority complex episode
English dub is also not done by treehouse try again faggot
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>>381133862
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>>381159482
>as a means of quelling Duma's madness
They had no such noble intentions, they were just completely corrupted by Duma's madness themselves and only focused on feeding him more souls so he could continue growing in power. Alm and Celica were focused because of the prophecy that the Bearer of the Brand would be the one to kill Duma, so if the Faithful could get rid of them, there would be no Brand-Bearer around to kill Duma.
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>>381159650
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>>381159828
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>>381159967
just art of the four
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>>381126873
>cum on her hair
yeah ok..
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>>381141529
Well that sucks, because I didn't like Sacred Stones at all.
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>>381159806

Then again, they could have used Alm to revive Duma, right?
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>>381159650
Why is she standing like that? It annoys me.
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>>381161196
Force of habit from being a Nohrian slut.
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>>381159650
>>381161509
Is Cipher supposed to be the like a kinda source material for FE Heroes with multiple universes combining into one?
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>>381160054
I sending hee to alm, he needs another pegasus more than celica needing cavaliers.
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>>381160960
Why?
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>>381159650
This is what happens when you combine the two best girls
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>>381161617
Multiple universes is a thing they keep playing with the idea of in every fucking game now. Cipher's very much its own thing that doesn't even really have any lore behind it. It just happens to have some OCs who seem to be crossing the worlds and taking on different roles within them. (Shade for example usually being a dark magic using class like a Sorceress and Witch in Nohr but was also a Bishop one time in Tellius.) I guess it might be neat to see them as more fleshed out characters here with supports and base conversations. I wonder if they even have any past with each other.
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>>381160054
>toothpick legs
Unacceptable.
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>>381161617
they just throw everything FE in there and create OCs too
Heroes's commander Anna will soon be in Cipher too
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Can we take a minute to talk about how great the villains are in Echoes?

Fernand and Berkut feel like they took Orson from Sacred Stones and split him in half. Fernand is the allied soldier who ends up betraying you shortly after he's introduced, but unlike Orson, we actually get to see what a noble person he was before he went turncoat. And by the time we meet him for the last time, it's clear that he deeply regrets what he's done to you.

Berkut, on the other hand, is amazing because of his personal vendetta against Alm. Unlike, say, Lundgren or Michalis, who try to seize power by murdering their relatives, Berkut doesn't even realize his relationship with Alm until after Rudolf is dead. By that point, he's gone too far off the deep end to accept Alm's offer of friendship, culminating with sacrificing Rinea for the sake of satisfying his own lust for power.

Speaking of Rinea, while she's not technically an antagonist, she still fits nicely into the Ishtar archetype, and in some ways even surpasses Ishtar herself. In FE4, Ishtar was a tragic figure because she was in love with Julius, but she still tried to put a stop to the Child Hunts. However, because we never got to see what Julius was like before Manfroy gave him the Loptyr tome, all of his interactions with Ishtar in-game seem more like an abusive relationship. We don't know why Ishtar fell in love with him in the first place. Unlike Julius, we actually get to see how much Berkut genuinely cares for Rinea, to the point that watching him fall off the deep end and sacrifice her to Duma comes across as genuinely shocking. This also provides another contrast to Ishtar: whereas Ishtar ultimately made her own decision to fight alongside Julius, Rinea was sacrificed against her will.
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>>381162240

>>381128293
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>>381162079
>>381162240
Sounds like fun.
Wish they'd put Aversa in FE Heroes already though. Aversa did absolutely nothing wrong.
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>>381144140
Genny you hack.
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>>381163017
Genny is NOT a hack!
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>>381162425

But it's not just the original villains added to the remake; they also did a fantastic job of characterizing the villains that were in the original game.

Jedah, for example, is different from most other members of the Gharnef archetype because he's not just trying to resurrect Duma for the sake of doing something evil. Unlike Manfroy, who was the leader of a heavily-persecuted cult, Jedah is basically the Pope of Rigel's dominant religion. He wants to resurrect Duma because he truly believes that Valentia cannot survive without Duma's influence. If it weren't for Jedah's stereotypical evil laughter or clear enjoyment from other people's suffering, I'd almost call him a tragic villain like Lyon or Sephirain.

Finally, that brings us to the bad dragon himself, Duma. As the founder of the series' "evil god" archetype, he's also, ironically, one of the biggest subversions of it: he's a perfectly chill dude who's losing his ability to control his own power. All of his villainous actions throughout the game's backstory are merely his attempt to save the world from himself. Sort of like Anankos, except without a mind-bendingly retarded plot twist.
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>>381145736

The sales chart hadnt been update since release. Hell, even the first stat showing about 136,000 sales was given a few weeks before the game's release, akak just the preorders.

Wait for a new sales stat before determining if it bombed or not.
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>>381163192
This motherfucker makes the best faces I swear to god. No wonder he had such an easy time usurping Halcyon, he probably just went
>implying
>shiggy diggy
at every argument Halcyon made when debating scripture.
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>>381162425
>that scene when they pass on
felt great and I was a bit sad I could not recruit him. They better put this much love in the FE4 remake, Flames of Jundgral
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>>381163192
looks like he has little stub legs from the thumbnail
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>>381158786
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>>381163192
Agreed, Jedah was genuinely fun to watch interact with other characters on-screen. He was undoubtedly a hammy SUPER EVIL (caps lock required) dude, but he still had a calm charisma about him. Instead of just cackling and scheming, he elects to walk up to Celica and talk things out with her right out of the gate.
It's probably just that normally when games do the calm and charismatic evil guy, they try (and fail) to make him seem genuinely good before "revealing" that he was evil all along, while Jedah was very honest and up-front with being evil, both in-universe and out of it.
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>>381158786
What is this parodying?
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>>381143698
TAAAAKE THIIIIIIIIS

The art might be iffy, but the real problem is Rex's fucking awful dub voice.
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>NPD Sales Results For May 2017
charts are by revenue.

7: Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadow of Valentia*
*No digital sales included

"The launch of Nintendo’s Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadow of Valentia pushed May portable software spending up 10 percent versus year ago,”
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>>381163871
Where does one even go to confirm these things. All I know is vgchartz and we all know how that is.
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>>381144140
>Fates was actually Genny fanfiction
>Chrom read it and thought it was an actual history book

It all makes sense now. Fates is adult fanfiction Genny wrote when she was really turned on while shipping Celica and Conrad.
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>>381158786
>>381165032
why are they playing cards
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>>381145736
It sold around 191k physical copies from the last time I remember seeing the game ranked. It probably sold even more if we include the digital sales for the game. But, we don't know how much the digital sales were for the game are yet since I don't think they have published it yet.

Echoes probably sold more then they expected since they didn't send out a large amount of copies to begin with. Plus, it wasn't really advertise that much.
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>>381166293
Media Create posts weekly sales numbers for the top selling 20 games each week, but that's Japan and physical sales only.
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>>381145736
Considering the game got such little marketing I assume being around 200k would've likely past expectations. Which isn't a bad thing but not good either.
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>>381145736
>>381166247
seems to have done pretty well in the US.
at least reached the top 10
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>>381166402
It's better to believe this, than to face the reality that Fates is canon.
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>>381163192
Don't forget he sacrificed two of his three daughters to Duma, that's pretty much anti-tragic hero and more like full dick
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Multiple endings for Alm when?

>Alm kills Celica and becomes the Conqueror, Emperor Walhart Rudolf II
>Alm becomes God King Alm Lima V from marrying Celica, turns Celica into a mindless, devoted witch and integrates Silque and Clair and Mae and others into his harem
>Alm travels with Valbar and his buddies to Japan and Battle of Revolution happens
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>>381166402
Wait but Chrom meets the fates crew in that one dlc.
What the fuck? The fanfiction was based on a real place?
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>>381167093
>Implying it wasn't Chrom hallucinating from when Sumia literally punched his face while wearing a metal gauntlet

Sumia is hilarious sometimes.
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>>381166967
This means Jedah of all people got laid.
What a Chad.
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>>381166983
>Alm travels with Valbar and his buddies to Japan
You mean Chon'sin in Awakening? That's just approximately the stretch of land between Zofia Castle and the southern fort.
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>>381139602
>best invoke

That's not dreadfighters.
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>>381166983
Man, the hate for Celica is really something else.
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>>381167228
>3 incredibly hot daughters
>Probably had a hot wife too
>Literally the pope of a religion that worships a literal War God

What a fucking alpha, the only reason Berkut even got attention was because Jedah sacrificed his alpha male status to show his devotion for Duma.
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>>381138087
Clive started out shitty but he's somehow passed lukas and forsyth in defense so now he's a superior mobile tank.
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>>381167697
Judging by how easily he manipulated Celica, I'm not that surprised at how he landed a (presumably) scorching hot wife.
"If you don't let me have unprotected sex with you, Duma's, uh... going to destroy the world. Yeah."
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>>381167519
It's more a reference to IS's April Fools joke.

>>381167627
Nah, it's more of a joke that Celica is what prevents Echoes Alm from being "Don't worry Celica, I'll kill those bastards" Gaiden Alm.
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>>381146859
>and being the nadir of every aspect in terms of writting (story, characters, world building etc) really brings it down.

Gameplay is absolutely more important than story.

Fire Emblem 7 somehow getting praised as a great FE despite worse gameplay than Conquest and dreadful writing(just because it's better than Conquest doesn't make it good) while Conquest gets shat on is monumental bullshit.
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>>381167964

The best part is that for all Celica knows, everything Jedah says is true. He goes into a lengthy, detailed explanation as to why Duma's resurrection is necessary for Valentia's survival.

Plus, there's also the fact that Duma himself isn't truly evil. Though, it's unlikely that Jedah knew this.
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>>381162425
>LIES LIES LIES
>POWER IS ALL THAT HAS BEEN EXPECTED OF ME

Berkut is so great.
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>>381167214
sumia too strong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIqhsRY8fMM
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>>381168745
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>>381139530
The maps are simple but I love how the game actually feels like a GBA/GCN era Fire emblem.
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>>381167609
>using invoke for anything but meat shields
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>>381168407
Yea but after some fine game play being bombarded by the worst writing ever in maybe all of video games barring fan hacks and the like makes the enjoyment much worse. if it was just bad or just their then whatever, but its just that bad

>fe7
dreadfull writting is a bit much anon, the writing does its job well.
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>>381133862
>can't get the DLC from the code that comes with the prebuilt card deck because japan only
i just want to put alm in a bow
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This is Celica. Say something nice about her.
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>>381168407
oh come on, FE7 had amazing writing compared to the rest of the series, and Conquest was my favorite FE
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>>381169509
They did this with Fates and the TMS prebuilt deck too, with codes that gave you special units of Marth and Caeda. Caeda was even her own unique Pegasus Knight class that was different from Sky Knights.
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>>381166983
Go to sleep Faye.
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>>381169096
>the game actually feels like a GBA/GCN era Fire emblem
I didn't think it was possible for someone to be this wrong

>>381163192
>>381162425
>actually enjoying the saturday-morning cartoon villains and plot with the dept of a dry river
taste this shallow shouldn't be allowed to exist
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>>381169774
Yes because Fates was really so much better in any of the regards we're actually talking about.
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>>381168105
Well the lead up to the ending was different in Echoes anyway.

>Original
>Celica gave up herself to save Alm from Dracozombies after fighting up to the top of the Duma Tower
>Her army is worn out from battle
>She confesses her reasoning to everything to Alm and apologizes for fucking up

>Remake
>Celica got witch'd and Alm kills her for like two minutes before she gets revived
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>>381169638
I love my dumb, stupid wife that should not be allowed to run a kingdom.
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>>381143698
>>381166003
Remember when people thought Wendee Lee was the voice director for Xenoblade 2 because she retweeted the annoucnement for it? She did a wonderful job with Echoes, and I fucking wish she was doing Xeno2 now.
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>>381170227
Fortunately Alm will probably run that shit and has good advisors
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>pick Sonya because already have 3 mercenaries
>Sonya quickly becomes outclassed
Should have picked Deen
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>>381169996
Conquest using echoes levels of writing and presentation would have made it he SPRG of the decade.
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>>381146918
I didn't know any characters benefitted from being Villager Fork'd and then turned into mages, holy shit. Soft boy is too hard.
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>>381170390
>FUCKING CLIVE LEADING THE COMBINED ARMY

No wonder they got beat by Sleeveless Marth and Girl Marth in the far future, what a good start the kingdom got off to.
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>>381169996
and this, my friends, is a classic strawman

nobody said anything about Fates, and yet this guy decided to set up Fates as a target. Congratulations, you hit a target you set up
yourself

I didn't expect Echoesfags to have any intelligence anyway
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Its a shame the Overclasses are DLC.
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>>381170008
It makes so much more sense in the remake
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>>381170572
Overclass Alm looks rad as fuck. Too bad the rest are overdesigned and have a fixed palette and animations.
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>>381170521
Sonya got nerfed in the remake when she lost Seraphim. She's still a solid character but this time is because of Excalibur + Rewarp shenanigans.
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You know echoes actually has a surprising amount in common with Shin Megami Tensei.
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>>381170521
She was a faster Mae for me but had Excalibur and entrap for postgame so she's pretty good, only took her, the lords, Atlus and Python to post game.
Also fun fact she and Deen have the same caps
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>>381170972
That it is boring?
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>>381170972
Gaiden was pretty much "Fire Emblem: JRPG edition"
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>>381170521
My Sonya got pretty good but I still regret not picking Deen, Dread Fighters are stupidly good and having a set of 5 customizable units with no grinding limits is pretty good for the post-game.
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>>381170227
Bullshit.
Alm just got lucky that the writing always favour him.
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>>381171051
And that it's better than the competition (Awakening/Fates:Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest)
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So what are the best promotions for the SoV villagers? I know Gray is the optimal mercenary because he's only slightly inferior in that class whereas he's terrible in the rest, but what about Kliff and Tobin? I'm thinking of making Tobin a mage to take advantage of his high starting speed and early excalibur, just like in Gaiden. But I'm not sure about Kliff. In Gaiden I preferred making him an archer because the other archers were awful but it looks like Python has been buffed considerably. Is that still the best option? Or should he become a cavalier because cavaliers are all-around solid?
Please advise.
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>>381169774
>hating on the writing of echoes
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>Be Clive
>Hypocrite, poor fighter, not even a good leader
>Literally everyone sucks your dick non-stop
>Get a ludicrously hot warrior wife
>Cute sister that fawns all over you
>Even the main character sucks your dick
>Your men respect you even when you keep losing your battles

So is he supposed to be Echoes answer to Corrin or something? At least Corrin was useful in battle.
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>>381171470
Python still sucks dick, Kliff is a murder machine as an archer. I made Tobin a cav and regretted it every second since then.
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I am surprised Fire Emblem hasn't incorporated Firearms yet.
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>>381171470
Mage Tobin is amazing early game, but late-game isn't great in battle but more Physic is always great.

Sniper Kliff is fucking amazing and Sage Kliff is fucking amazing.

Also, Dread Fighter > All other physical classes
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>>381170663
>The overclasses that aren't available to all characters look the best
>The ones that are all look overdesigned AND are identical to each other
>The overclass DLC is just access to the chamber to upgrade classes
So not only do characters become less unique as a result, they're not even fun to unlock. Even something like "Fight against a specter Overclass and others to unlock the shrine!" would've made each one more interesting. To unlock Spartans as a promotion, you need a skilled baron and to actually beat a Spartan, etc.
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>>381171705
>dread fighter > all other classes
ftfy
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>>381171662
Calling it now, FE Switch will have Flintlock units, will replace Ninjas but function completely different. Or just be reskinned archers.
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>>381171538
He is a good leader, though. A good leader is one who's not too prideful to accept help, who recognizes his weaknesses and who is prepared to step aside if necessary. Plus he is the only noble who treats commoners with any degree of respect beyond bare tolerance and he's literally the only reason the Deliverance was able to get off the ground. Whether he's a great fighter or not is up in the air but he was quite necessary and deserves the nice things that happened to him.
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>>381171824
>Musketeer Class
Bow/Sword lords were getting overdone anyways.
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>>381171470
Tobin is either a sub-par mage or sub-par archer, not much can be done with him. Killer Bow Tobin is actually pretty darn good because of his high skill and decent luck and Killer Bow not needing speed.

Kliff on the other hand is fucking insane as all sorts of classes. My Archer Kliff murdered everything and my Mage Kliff doubles enemies with SAGGITAE.
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>>381172057
>>381171824
>The Musketeer class will either look like a British Redcoat or a French Musketman.
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>>381171824

Why would we need firearms in a Fire Emblem game?

We already have Codename S.T.E.A.M.
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>>381171645
Hang on, how is Python bad? He appears to have really good speed and strength.
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>>381172238
Yeah, but it's not a FE game. I should probably give that game a try eventually
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>>381172238
the art style is so shit
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>>381142001
>>381147516
You guys are fucking retarded. It's not implied at ALL.

If one of them DIES, the other keeps the EXACT SAME ENDING! Clearly showing they don't marry.
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>>381172238
>tfw sequel never
It's a crime how bad that game got shat on by reviewers and fans alike. It was so fun and you could tell they put a lot of heart into it.
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>>381172238
That really had more in common with XCOM.
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Post more of Silque's big bottom!
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>>381171470
I turned Kliff into a cavalier and he murdered shit
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>>381170521
Sonya has stayed God Tier for me. My Boey sucks especially, literally all of his stats are lower than Mae's.

Sonya is the only one of the three with any speed also.
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>>381170572
It's a shame overclasses are shit to begin with
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>>381172646
Kliff is literally good as everything.

Even Baron Kliff won't be great but will be better than other Barons due to his speed.
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>>381172437
>people bitch about Awakening's weebshit artstyle
>ISIS makes a game with an artstyle inspired by American comic books; the complete opposite of weebshit
>people still bitch about it
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>>381172609
It's more like Valkryia Chronicles, not X-com
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So will we in the states actually get all the DLC this time?
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>>381172238
>Codename S.T.E.A.M keeps the amiibo support
>nearly a dozen FE characters are playable because of it
I loved using the 4 Smash amiibo, partially because of the music but mostly because it makes the early chapters are lot more bearable.
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>>381172437
Fuck you you fucking weeb plebian.
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>>381172238
This game was more fucking awesome than I expected, especially when you get to Oz.
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>>381172609
It's more like Valkyrie chronicles than xcom.

>>381172238
>try to do a fire emblem run
>ike is fucking garbage only good for kicking Marth around
>Robin's tactician ability is arbitrarily half as strong as carters but only Marth can utilize it
>Marth is a melee unit with 6 steam regen
It's like they tried making the fire emblem team as dysfunctional as possible so you won't hear the unique music ever.
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>>381172834
Yes,confirmed. We already have 4 of the 5 DLCs and Cipher is coming in a few days.

FUCKING CIPHER

TREEHOUSE COULDN'T GIVE IS FATES DLC IN FATES

BUT WE ARE GETTING CIPHER DLC IN GAIDEN 2.0

Hopefully Treehouse sticks to E3 Streaming and is kept away from games.
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>>381171470
I think Cavalier Kliff has the best early game of his options, at least besides Merc, but since Gray's the Merc that's out. Mage Kliff has a great late game, but getting there can be painful, and I think Luthier and Doot do the same thing without such a bad early game.

He does get outclassed by Mathilda and Zeke, but until then, he's pretty great. And to be fair, Mathilda and Zeke outclass pretty much every other unit.
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>>381173040
we just need to find more prostitutes and cucks lurking in the treehouse
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>>381173141
>Mage Kliff has a great late game

That's actually the complete opposite for me. Early/mid Mage Kliff was probably my best unit besides Alm but he dropped off hard for me in end-game.
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>>381172905
>Game starts out as a Lovecraft inspired Alien invasion story
>SUDDENLY WIZARD OF FUCKING OZ!
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>>381172954
>>ike is fucking garbage only good for kicking Marth around
I got some mileage out of Ragnell for juggling enemies around when it decided to hit more than once. But yeah, Lucina and Robin are useable while the other two are just garbage. I managed to complete my FE run at least. The last stages were "Lucina and Robin do all the work while Marth heals".
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>>381173040
I actually wonder if the reason we didn't get all the Fates DLC could be simply because none of the non-route DLC was selling at all. I mean when your DLC are the other entire story routes, asking for half that price for just a few maps hardly seems appealing at all. It seems like a worthless endeavor with little to no profit.
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>That DLC Bow class

That's some Shining Force shit, I love it.
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>>381173406
Post his endgame stats.
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>>381129068
fuck you
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>No Anna.
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>>381172954
>>381172826
VC is also more similar to XCOM than FE
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Best Track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JCzIWvoRMg
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Should I promote everyone ASAP or should I give certain units extra levels? I'm planning on doing an ironman run on hard mode (without grinding of course). I've heard that the endgame maps are pretty tough, is there anything in particular I should keep in mind in order to prepare myself?
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>>381173481
I wouldn't say Marth is complete garbage. Later on when shit starts getting high yeah, but early on when he can reach weak points his rapier deals major damage. It deals an unprecedented x4 damage on crits, which means he deals the second highest amount of damage per steam in the game. Maybe even the first highest if we discount the scout pack and carter on the fox. It's a shame we'll never get patches for the other characters though, I'd love to get rid of Ike and Marth for presumably better characters.

>>381174304
Thabes is the only reason you may want to hold off on promoting immediately. If you don't care about that dungeon you can and should promote immediately to get the increased bow range/mov/abilities/etc.
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>>381173406
Really? How did you tolerate his terrible speed with how fire weights him down? Tobin actually gets some speed so he can double things. Did you use the shrines on him?
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Celica is an idiot.
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>>381172905
>>381173417
The Emerald City was such a gorgeous location, I just wish there had been more missions there. And, y'know, that Dorothy hadn't been dogshit.
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I wanna fuck Clair
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>>381175474
>I gave her the Romphaia thing just to juice up her attack a bit
>mfw Dragonhaze
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>>381175557
>gave clair Rhomphaia
>gave gray zweihander
>dragonhaze and tigerstance
>pottery
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--76tTcsyOU
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>>381174474
>Kliff
>Slow

Nigga he's got a 60% speed growth, if he's slow then you're getting fucked by the rng. Hell, I'm only halfway into Act 4 and the only person faster than him (in Alm's army at least) is dread fighter Gray
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>>381175904
I'm talking about the early game, he has 1 speed when he promotes because fire weighs him down.
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>>381173534
Actually, the Festival maps had a SHIT TON of content. Unique conversations for every character. Popular characters got even more conversations.

Even some same-sex friendship stuff like Azura/ Camilla and Xander/ Arthur. Also, Sakura! Kana's hilarious "mommy, why did you marry your brother" question.
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>>381175904
Next playthrough I do I'm going to send Kliff to DF and then Baron for THE SPEED TANK.
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>>381175557
>tfw even without Dragonhaze she can split Dread Fighters in half
My little peg knight can't be this much of an anal rapist holy shit
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>>381176126
That's kind of what I'm getting at. It seems like a lot of effort to localize for something that's probably not gonna sell well at all if my theory is true and people really weren't buying any of the non-route DLC.
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>>381151768
Sauce
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Post lewds
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>>381176452
It was. I just wish they gave us an anna's gift or something for the seals you got.
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>>381175275

Oz was cool and all, but it got a bit too much representation.

Would've been cool to have a level set aboard the Pequod or on the Island of California.
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>>381176452
The thing is, said DLC was THE most popular DLC in Awakening and one of the most well recieved.
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>>381176126
>Sakura! Kana's hilarious "mommy, why did you marry your brother" question.

Sounds like Fire Emblem to me
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>>381176256
You could fork him immediately after promoting to mercenary to fix his base stats.
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>>381176898
While that is true, DF base speed + Baron base attack and defense is fucking hilarious.
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Playing CQ right now and why does every Nohr fammily noble have a support with Azura BUT cammila?
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>>381177123
thots don't like each other
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>>381177056
But since Kliff's speed growth is incredible, if you fork him merc->soldier ASAP he'll still have more than the DF base speed once he reaches baron
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>>381178125
True. I wonder if DF has good skill bases.
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>>381170521
I gave her the Mage Ring to Excalibur everything from a safe place, also she got crits almost everytime.
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Do other FE games have epilogues changing for minor characters when somebody dies? I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I rarely let units die.

Between the epilogue changes, voiced death quotes, and post-battle mourning quotes, they sure made losing a unit hit hard in this one. Too bad so few people will ever see it because of the turnwheel and general low difficulty.
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>>381172238
I always forget that I still have to play this.
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>>381157070
>Couple: go away faggot

>Male: Sain
>Female: Lissa
>Bad guy: Zephiel
>Weapon: Zweihander
>Game: Awakening
>Lord: Hector(Otherwise Eliwood)
>Cavalier: Sain
>Knight: Gilliam
>Archer: Neimi
>Bow Knight: Tobin (Otherwise Sue)
>Mercenary: Owain
>Myrmidon: Lyn(otherwise Marisa)
>Fighter: Gonzalez
>Pirate: Dart I guess?
>Peg Knight: Cynthia
>Wyv Rider: Heath
>Anima: Lute
>Dark: Sophia
>Light: Rhys
>Cleric: Serra
>TroubleDoor: La'Arachel
>Thief: Matthew
>Dancer: Nils!
>Manakete: Myrrh
>Laguz: None. All disgusting
>Other: Donnel
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>>381179597
Not quite epilogues, but Path of Radiance would do this with plenty of story scenes as they would often involve characters who can die. Sometimes they'd just be minor alterations to fill in for a missing line of dialogue, or sometimes it could change the context of a moment like Rolf wanting to fight because he's tired of being useless while his brothers fight to keep him safe, or wanting to fight because he's already lost a brother and is scared of losing the other one.
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>>381180323
Path of Radiance was my second FE. My first was Shadow Dragon, and I didn't reset on death because units were cardboard and replaceable. I thought PoR was the same. I let Boyd die early and did not go back for him.

I felt like I couldn't get away from it. The game couldn't stop reminding me in small ways. I felt like the absolute worst person. Never again.
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>>381179597
Nice.
What happens to Gray if Clair dies?
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>>381179597
>the demon bottle

i am picturing what most likely isn't the case.
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>>381170521
>Sonya outclassed
by who?
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Should I give Fates another chance after beating Echoes? Not that I didn't like Echoes mind you.
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>>381180762
Pic is all of them. Odd that there's nothing specifically for when both of them die. It probably uses the dead Clair one.

>>381180934
Gaiden version makes it more clear that it's alcohol.
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>>381180635
That's the kind of stuff that adds a lot of character to the game in my opinion. Path of Radiance is a Fire Emblem that completely deserves to be Iron Manned on a first playthrough because of how personalized it can make your experience feel.
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>>381175474
patrician taste
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>>381181402
Except the NA release is so ridiculously easy that it's unlikely that you would lose anyone.
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>>381181565
True, but the dialogue where Rolf joins while both Oscar and Boyd are dead, and imagining him channeling that helplessness and despair into becoming an unstoppable killing machine is too good.
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>>381182002
None can stop Rolf the Ripper.
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