When will dungeon crawlers make a comeback?

I wanna crawl over over her, if you know what I mean.

>>381120076
>Vita dying and no one wants to bring over the DRPGs
>3ds at the end of its life because of the Nintendo Shitch, EO will die
There's no hope. Just wait for another boom in 20 years.

>>381120076
they haven't even left yet.

One of my favorite events was when MC tries to casually bring up her outfit in a conversation but she's oblivious to it

I'd crawl in her dungeon, if you catch my gist.

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Guys give me some dungeon crawlers for my vita
I own moe chronicale and demon gaze

>>381123684
Dungeon Travelers 2

>>381120076

When they stop limiting themselves to the Vita which seems like it might be happening now. Starting to see a handful show up on Steam and PS4.

>>381124716
>non-handheld
No thanks.

>>381124584
>43€
How can vita game still be so expencive

>>381120076
playing this game is such a tortute i just wanna fuck everyone

Etrian Odyssey is already pretty popular in Japan considering how niche of a genre it is and nothing even comes close to it, that'll probably never change.

>>381124842

Fine don't play anything other than handheld. Get a Vita which is basically dead and enjoy I guess.

>>381120076
>never played Dungeon Crawlers before
>get Operation Abyss for 5€
>have no fucking idea what the fuck to do
>get my ass kicked and I don't even know what I'm doing wrong
Now that was a disappointing entry into the genre. Should I try some other game?

>>381125694
Operation Abyss is shit, and among the most archaic of the genre.
Demon Gaze or Etrian Odyssey IV are an OK introduction.

>>381125685
Why the fuck would you play these on anything but a handheld?

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>>381125694
Moe chronical is fun too just need to import the chies ver. with english translation

Did they announced something for Coven and Labyrinth of Refrain or is that thing deader than dead. Looked far better than most from what i saw.

>>381126314
NISA refuses to bring over their JP branch's actual games, for whatever reason.

>>381126409
https://twitter.com/NISAmerica/status/876888409716871169
>check their twitter
>this
Jesus christ.

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>>381126108
I'm torn between importing and waiting for the steam version. On one hand the handheld version would be better, on the other I could probably pay less for the steam version and it would support more similar games getting brought over.

I love dungeon crawlers, legend of grimrock, EO, and stuff, but they're definitely dying out.

I could see them carrying on with Switch or VR though. Maybe like an Etrian Odyssey Switch game where you can look around with the gyro controls to interact with the environment and find new paths and such? Or some type of VR dungeon crawler of a similar nature.

Only way I see the genre surviving longterm.

>>381127014
>Switch
Gross. Where's the second screen? May as well rebrand at that point.

>>381127412

They could treat it like an actual first person deal and have the map be slowly brought up and down with the second analog? Or just look down to see the map or something, I don't know. I'm pretty sure it would be manageable to do it without destroying what EO is.

>>381127770
Not him but it certainly would be clunky. A big reason EO felt so smooth in the mapmaking was due to the dual screen thing making it possible to have a separate map and dungeon without having to constantly switch between them. Was evocative of writing out a map on paper but without needing the paper.

>>381120076
>When will dungeon crawlers make a comeback?
When they stop being anime shit, pandering to the moeblob ecchi audience, and nothing more than grindy time wasters. Shit like your pic is the reason why they are niche and going nowhere. They wouldn't dare offend their core otaku audience and so, getting through the game is just a matter of pushing through enough and gaining enough experience to see all the mostly naked kindergarteners.

>>381129983
They're niche at the core regardless though. Many people complain about having to draw their own maps or the slow paced gameplay.

>>381129983
So haven't actually played one I see

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>>381128656
>have the map pull out by pressing x
>handheld mode let's you draw the map directly on the screen like usual EO
>docked mode you draw it with an on screen cursor controlled my dpad/analog or the ir pointers on the joycons

I can kind of see it working, sure you have to toggle it but in handheld mode you're still drawing the maps outs and most people would be playing these types of games like that unlocked anyway I just want EO3U man, or EO/Himukai in general. Hopefully EMD2 fixes all the bullshit from the first game

>>381129983
spotted the homosexual

>>381129983
If you looks at it from the japanese developer point of view. It is a lot easier to make a dungeon crawler with moe characters and have it sell a thousand copies or so. Then it is to make a name for yourself by making a GOOD dungeon crawler.

>>381130984
It could work, not denying that, it just would be less smooth and could feel clunky. Having a dedicated screen to look at for both is a key component. I agree with the spoilered point but I'm probably not bothering with EMD2.

>>381130820
I've played plenty. I've also played older, western dungeon crawlers. I have yet to find one of these anime dungeon crawlers which is anything more complex than just wandering through a simple maze, and where the challenge is anything more than beating the enemy numbers thrown at you.

>>381131369
DT2 is a good dungeon crawler

>>381129983
The anime stuff doesn't matter worth jack shit if your goal is to make them less niche. If you want to make them less niche you'd have to change the gameplay at its core or add extraneous components to appeal to the casual audience. Crawlers in general are slow and need patience to play, something that a generation who plays instant-gratification, flashy mobile games lacks. You can't blame the retarded looking characters for repelling an audience that wouldn't have played or wanted to play them in the first place.

>>381131494
>western
Oh, that's why everything that comes out of you is a shitpost.

>>381129983
Legend of Grimrock
Might & Magic X - Legacy
Elminage Gothic
Those games are not anime and they are all shit.

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>>381126567
>NISA charging people for fangames
>NISA putting their grubby little fingers over the 2hus

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Japanese dungeon crawlers are inherently shit. Have you ever seen good level design like pic related in a Japanese game? Never, because japs can't design dungeon crawlers worth a damn

>>381120367
Vita still has a few DRPG localizations that are coming that haven't been announced.

There will be some announcements at AX.

>>381133315
Japan likes wizardry style not might and magic style

>>381134285
That's not an excuse for shit level design and shit game design

>>381125082
It was a limited print.

>>381134413
>shit level design
You say that like western rpgs are any good.