What are your realistic expectations for DBFZ's roster?
Here's mine:
>Goku (Base- KK)
>Goku (SSJ- SSJ3) - Vegito (SSJ)
>Goku (SSB- SSBKK) - Vegito (SSB)
>Vegeta (Base)
>Vegeta (SSJ-> SSJ2) - Vegito (SSJ)
>Vegeta (SSB) - Vegito (SSB)
>Teen Gohan (SSJ2)
>Adult Gohan (Mystic)
>Trunks (SSJ)
>Krillin (Base)
>Piccolo (Base)
>Gotenks (SSJ- SSJ3)
>Ginyu (Base)
>Frieza (Final Form- Golden)
>C16 (Base)
>C17 (Base)
>C18 (Base)
>Cell (Perfect)
>Broly (LSS)
>Majin Buu (Fat)
>Majin Buu (Super)
>Majin Buu (Kid)
>Beerus (Beerus)
>Hit (Base)
>Zamasu (Base) - Zamasu (Fused)
>Black Goku (SSR) - Zamasu (Fused)
What are your wishes and worst fears?
>>381096053
I'm hoping they ignore movie characters completely.
But if they have to put in Broly, sure.
>>381096198
Maybe they can replace Broly with that new female character this time, idk
>>381096361
>wanting off-brand Broly
Gross
>>381096053
best video until now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYnFDFSzvns&t=454s
i hope the shitty twink fem saiyans from u6 don't make it in
not even as dlc
>>381096053
I expect Vegeto Blue to be a secret boss.
Also I'm feeling Dabura might be a character as well. Wouldn't mind him at all.
Since this is a 3v3, can we expect some cool fusion mechanics? Like if you could get Vegito by fusing Vegeta and Goku form your party
>>381097356
>can we expect some cool fusion mechanics?
this is a fighting game not a simulator
>Goku
>Vegeta
>Piccolo
>Adult Gohan
>Trunks
>Majin Buu
>Frieza
>Beerus
>17
>Zamasu
Rest is DLC that will come out over a year later.
Wouldn't be surprised if it was just the classic DBZ cast we've seen for the past 25 years and they include DBS power ups but no DBS characters.
>>381097454
Wtf this list is shit
I dont know these kinds of games very well, so I'm wondering, will we get some sort of story mode? Or what? If yes, what will the story be about iyo?
>>381096198
Janemba has good potential as a character though, feels like a waste to not have him as dlc down the road at least.
>>381096554
This what a Superman fightig game should have being.
>>381097931
If they put Janemba in then they'll definitely want to add Gogeta in as well
>>381097356
Who knows, we might. It was confirmed that there are seven super meter gauges, compared to the 5 that standard 2v2 and 3v3 games have. Maybe if you build all 7 bars, you might be able to use fusion or something. Would be a nice thing to have considering even though building meter is faster in this game, 7 bars is still a lot to build as you're giving up snapbacks, dhcs, supers and other stuff. There also doesn't seem to be a "Morrigan-Like" Assist from the looks of it too.
>>381097894
If you know Askys, they tend to have fighting games with substantial story modes.
>>381096053
>realistic expectations
>a bunch of SS recolours and transformations
>no waifus
>ArcSys
You're retarded. This isn't even the first Dragonball game they've made.
>>381098115
Great! But in dragon ball you need many characters to build a good story, so how will they do it?
>>381096053
Why is everyone predicting a roster of 15+ with only one female fighter in a ASW game? Do they believe that they would do that, or are they hoping their favorites get in regardless of who gets glossed over?
>>381098115
>>381098305
if saiyans are all SS by default and there are no Raditz or Kid Gohan and its always 3v3 wouldn't they need to do an original story?
>>381098305
>Dragonball
>you need a lot of characters
Are you high? This is more true of Hokuto no Ken where there isn't a large recurring cast and yet they still pulled it off with a dozen characters. You don't even need a dozen characters to tell DBZ's story.
>>381098403
15+ is likely because its a 3v3 game. And we've seen the character select screen and there is room for 24 slots. Every character seems to have very samey movesets like Extreme Budoten so it's probably not as much work for them to make a bunch of characters.
For reference, here is Extreme Budoten's list:
Goku
Goku (Super Saiyan)
Goku (Super Saiyan God)
Goku (SSGSS)
Krillin
Teen Gohan
Teen Gohan (Super Saiyan 2)
Adolescent Gohan (Super Saiyan)
Ultimate Gohan
Piccolo
Raditz
Nappa
Vegeta
Vegeta (Super Saiyan)
Captain Ginyu
Frieza (Final Form)
Future Trunks (Super Saiyan)
Android 18
Cell (Perfect Form)
Majin Buu
Kid Buu
Gotenks (Super Saiyan)
Beerus
Bardock
Broly (Legendary Super Saiyan)
There is a high chance we'll see most of these guys in DBF.
>>381098403
I hope they add DB Bulma and Kid Goku. Slutty Bulma is best Bulma.
>>381098403
I don't see Lunch (rip) being added, Videl is a possibility, Kale could get in instead of Broly but that seems kidna risky and Caulifla has 0 material to work with so unless they work on her after the material we will get in the tournament of power arc she just seems unlikely.
>>381098825
Also, I mean we're likely to see most of them except for the duplicates. I doubt that we'll get 4 character slots devoted to Goku when the game has transformations mixed into supers. Maybe Ultimate Gohan will take up another slot.
>>381099027
It's ArcSys, I bet they'll shove Launch in there just to get tits in the game.
>>381099027
And Loli Chi-Chi
>>381098825
You need many characters in terms of transformations. You can't tell most of the story if Goku is Super Saiyan locked. They either need to tell a new story, but I don't know when they could place it, or they could tell the classic manga story but it would be, like, skipping like hell
>>381096053
>Kid Gohan
>Goku
>Vegeta
>Frieza
>Cell
>Majin Buu
>Super Buu
>Mystic Gohan
>Android 17
>Android 18
>Piccolo
>Krillin
>Bardock
>Tien
>Broly
>Cooler
>Gotenks
>Trunks
>Vegito
>Beerus
>Zamasu
>Black
>Hit
>Janemba
>Jaco
>Bulma
>Hercule
>Someone from the recent arc
If they do retarded shit where we have 5 Gokus and 10 Vegetas and shit, one for every form, I will be so fucking angry. This is not xenoverse and it is not budokai. There will be very limited slots. Taking up several with the exact same character but different hair would be the ultimate in lazy. I can accept multiples of characters who are very different versions such as Kid Gohan and Adult Gohan or Fat Buu and Super Buu.
>>381099120
Or they'll just ignore the fact that Goku is supposed to be SSJ2 but is playable as SSJ1. We already see that SSJ3 is part of Goku's level 3 super so don't count on transformations hogging up character slots.
no launch no buy
>>381099329
Who?
>>381099329
Has she ever been in any game?
>transformations are separate characters
Fucking garbage
>>381099575
They're not though.
>>381099575
nope
>make transformations 5$DLC
>milk dumb fanboys out of money
i will be both surprised and disappointed if they don't do this
>>381099657
>>381099575
Imho they will do something like op's list
>>381099470
Yes, in a decent amount of DS games.
>>381099780
Imho, you've never played an ASW game. They never do clone characters.
HoS, Izayoi, and Mu-12 all play radically different and have totally different movesets to Sol, Tsubaki, and Noel.
>>381100013
Nope never did. So how will they handle all of goku's transformations iyo? How many of them will be in the game etc
>>381100013
Sho/Minazuki and Labrys/SLabrys in Persona. Nu/Lambda in Blazblue CF and CPE. And Xrd doesn't yet have any clones but it could still happen. Not going to count their older stuff like Order Sol.
If Krillin, Tien and Yamcha get in I will be happy.
Roshi being included would be fucking amazing.
Mr. Satan is given, he's cemented his position as the joke character in the series.
>>381100123
They're not going to handle shit, you've already seen what they do. Goku is SSJ during battles, and depending on conditions, goes SSJ3 during his supers. That's it.
I don't know why you people can't wrap your heads around this.
>>381100272
What about Blue? SSB needs to be in if there's Golden Frieza
>>381100272
This.
Super Saiyan 3 is already in the game during Goku's super. Frieza transforms into golden Frieza in battle as a powerup etc
>>381096547
You mean canon Broly.
>>381098115
>Aksys
Stop.
>>381100164
I didn't play the Persona game, but Lambda was originally a stand-in in CS for Nu who died in CT. When they brought Nu back, they changed her up to make them separate.
>>381100123
They'll ignore most of them. If we get a second Goku, it'll be Kid Goku. We might also get Vegitto Blue for that SSJBlue fanservice, and perhaps even give Goku and Vegeta the Blue transformation for their Supers.
Everyone else, no need. Frieza and Cell are already final form. Broly will likely be LSSJ. Trunks can be base SSJ with sword.
Gohan will just be SSJ2 Teen Gohan, at BEST you'll get Ultimate Gohan. Gotenks will be SSJ and have an SSJ3 Super.
Etc...
>>381100272
The roster selection for this game is totally unlike any other DBZ game. For people into this from just the DBZ side and not the FGC side it's going to be a bit of a shock. They're going to put in unique characters before popular ones.
>>381100502
I'd expect a variation on one of his supers like SSJ3 is.
>>381099445
>>381100502
install like gold
his ultimate turns into kaioken blue instead of ssj3
>>381100731
>>381100709
Seems cool to me. So i reckon my roster to be something like:
>Goku (SSJ- SSJ3- SSB)
>Vegeta (SSJ- SSB)
>Vegito (SSJ- SSB)
>Teen Gohan (SSJ2)
>Adult Gohan (Mystic)
>Trunks (SSJ)
>Krillin (Base)
>Piccolo (Base)
>Gotenks (SSJ- SSJ3)
>Ginyu (Base)
>Frieza (Final Form- Golden)
>C16 (Base)
>C17 (Base)
>C18 (Base)
>Cell (Perfect)
>Broly (LSS)
>Majin Buu (Fat)
>Majin Buu (Super)
>Majin Buu (Kid)
>Beerus (Base)
>Hit (Base)
>Zamasu (Base)
>Black Goku (SSR)
>Zamasu (Fused)
And maybe replace some of those with joke characters like Hercule, Jaco, Videl, Chichi, Roshi. Legit?
>>381100502
If they're going to put in blue (I doubt it) it will probably be a story thing only and it will be a simple reskin.
Anyone expecting different COSTUMES instead of recolors is an idiot. The main reason Golden Frieza was picked is because they don't have to change the model one bit.
>>381097946
>Superman
>getting a good video game
>>381101182
>Teen Gohan (SSJ2)
>Adult Gohan (Mystic)
So an 11 year old is a teenager and a 17 year old in high school is an Adult?
>>381096053
Best possible roster in my opinion
>>381101182
I'm thinking less slots for Super. 3 at the absolute most, including Beerus. They are focusing on Z.
I'd expect Satan/Hercule as a semi-joke character, Videl for a second girl, maybe Roshi since he'd be more of a DB rep with his moves, and perhaps another weird pick for gameplay reasons alone (Nappa or something?)
I think the roster is gonna be pretty good at launch, given they get ~24 which is plausible.
>>381101415
11yo Gohan is usually refered to as "teen" because there's a kid gohan already, the pre-android saga one. Also he's a bit older than eleven because of RoSaT
>>381101516
seems solid to me, although I really would like Ginyu with Ginyu force assist like Maya for Phoenix Wright in marvel 3
such a shame, that caulifla, kale and jiren are probably not in the base roster, wouldn't mind DLC for those though
>>381101182
I reckon Vegetto will be straight up Blue as an unlockable Boss character of sorts.
Also, I'd say expect many off the wall choices that make fun characters. They also said they're doing DB and Super (dunno about GT). So something like Bulma using guns and shit, or Babidi as a Zoner (like in Hyper) are much more likely than the likes of 16, and Ginyu.
I also doubt we'll get Zamasu AND Black Goku, in fact, I'm very skeptical about Black Goku making it in at all. Whis is way more likely, as he has many unique abilities, and would be a very fun character all around.
ASW is gonna be looking at this from the angle of, "what would make a fun character" first, instead of any fanservice. They wanna make this a competitively viable fighting game first. Thus, expect a lot of off-the-wall choices over fan wishes.
>>381096053
>>381099217
You people are fucking crazy. You're thinking about this like a normal DB game. I would say 18 characters would be extremely optimistic. 15 seems more likely at launch.
>>381096053
What if the different forms are just cosmetics and they activate when you lose rounds? Ie. you start as base Goku, lose round1 and tranform to SSJ Goku on round2 to represent that you upped the stakes.
>>381101516
Terrible.
>>381101882
15 in a 3v3 would be utterly moronic, anon. There will be at least 25 characters. There is no excuse for a fucking 15 character roster
>>381102078
20% done they said. So 25 seems most likely to me.
>>381096053
I highly doubt there will be reskins with Goku/Vegeta.
>>381096053
I just want as little Super bullshit as possible.
NONE preferably.
If I'm being honest all I actually want are
>Launch
>Tien
>Yamcha
>Krillen
>Picollo
>Uub
fuck sayians
>>381102249
Golden Frieza is in, so SSJBlue and Beerus, are guaranteed.
>>381101860
I think Bulma has a chance as a shock pick, working similar to Faust & Kokonoe but with a total reliance on projectiles due to a weak combo game and low heath. Don't know how that makes Ginyu & 16 less likely though.
Ginyu is one of the more striking minor antagonists in the series. I'd say he, Nappa, Dabura, & 16 are in a class of characters that are plausible due to what they could bring to the table. 16 in particular would be great as a heavy character with good reach and super armor as well as a command grab; basically Sentinel from Marvel but not as large.
>>381101882
>>381102078
>>381102132
25 is still definitely small for a DBZ game. Given the time, manpower, and Bamco money, plus the "20% done" comment for a demo that looks totally there in terms of visuals and systems and has 6 practically complete characters, 24-25 is probably the best guess at launch size.
In the future, with the likely DLC and updates, I'd expect them to be in the mid-high 30s by the end of the game's development cycle.
>>381101516
>I only watch z and super the list
>>381102342
>implies they'd put anyone from Dragon Ball or GT in the game
Fuck off.
It has a Z in it, that should tell you right there what NOT to expect.
>>381102391
They already said they were adding Dragonball stuff. Kid Goku is pretty much given, and Bulma very likely
MERCENARY TAO OR NO BUY
>>381102391
I expect nothing from GT but if you really believe there will be no dragon ball classic stuff your higher then a kite that lives inside a bong.
>>381101516
>Wanting SSB just because HURRRR HES STRONGER
Nah SSJ1 Goku/Super Vegeta are the pinnacles of their design simple and likable. We don't need some shitty fucking reskins using the same exact fucking moves.
>>381102528
When was the last time we got Dragon Ball shit in any fucking DBZ fighting game?
They've avoided that shit like the fucking plague.
If they do add anything it'll be bare minimum shit like Young Goku and Buff Roshi and that's it.
No Admiral Blue or Android 6 or anything fun or interesting.
Gotta keep roster spots open for that faggy Super shit the kids and autistic adults are watching these days.
>>381102598
Base Goku is best Goku.
>>381096053
>Goku (SSj - SSj3)
>Vegeta (Super)
>Vegetto (SSj)
>Kid Gohan (SSj2)
>Mystic Gohan
>Trunks (SSj - USSj)
>Gotenks (SSj - SSj3)
>Krillin
>Piccolo
>Ginyu
>Freeza (Final form - Golden)
>18
>Cell (Perfect)
>Fat Buu
>Kid Buu
>Beerus
>Broly
Blue will be recolors, Goku Black and Hit will be dlc
>>381102598
Nah, RoF was the best design for both of them, whether you like blue hair or not.
>>381102737
did you mean android 8?
Also xenoverse has Dragonball characters playable.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spv9ca
Comprehensive gameplay breakdown. Nothing character specific though.
>>381102483
He'd be cool. I hope he makes it in. DB was the best, I'd love more classic love.
I hope Tien also gets his Multiform Technique, and the one where he has four arms.
I also hope Chaotsu is a Zoner with a ton of trippy psychic abilities.
>>381102897
Xenoverse can suck my fucking cock
Was a huge waste of money that played like ass
>>381102737
Budokai had DB Kid Goku at least.
>>381102976
But isn't that a dbz fighting game, not just that a recently released one that had DB characters? Check mate.
>>381103145
Its a shitty DBZ MMO with fighting slapped onto it
>>381100164
SLabrys shares moveset but Asterius forces a completely different playstyle in move management and pressure.
ARALE WHEN
>>381103218
Moving the goal posts. bye becca.
Maybe as a transformation for normal Gogeta.
>>381102528
I expect GTku with SSJ4 for a finisher just to have another Goku that's not exactly like Z Goku
>>381103145
Xenoverse is a simulator
not a fighting game
>>381103382
Gogeta ain't ever happening, so move the fuck on.
>>381103479
Kid Goku with Nimbus, Power Pole, Janken, Great Ape transform, Vanilla Kamehameha, and the punch he used on Piccolo Daimyo is way more likely than GT Goku. Hell, with the Power Pole being a core element of his moveset, Kid Goku is easily one of the more original potential candidates for the roster. He could have all sorts of pokes and keep away moves.
>>381103818
As much as I like DB Goku, games just seem to love avoiding Dragonball entirely so GTku's the more likely of the two
>>381101516
>he thinks the femaie sayains will be in
>but not Black
>>381101516
>Super Trunks over early Android saga or Cell games Trunks
Won't happen
Why can't we have a 200+ roster?
>>381104125
Kid Goku was in Budokai 3, Budokai Tenkaichi 2, Tenkaichi 3, and Xenoverse.
i know there is a lot of rosterfagging for fightan games, but I'm personally not really feeling it, and i think that's a good thing.
the game looks fun and fast and responsive enough, that i genuinely think a team of frieza, gohan, and [counterpick] would be enough for me.
All I want is Bardock
I don't know why people think he's so unlikely considering how popular he is nowadays
>>381096053
Have they mentioned what size the roster will be?
>>381104978
I know the game is gonna be great regardless, it's my favorite developer making it, so. I also know the roster will be top notch, so I'm not worried. That said, I guess it's fun to discuss it.
>>381105117
Because he's just a weaker, shittier Goku.
>>381105117
Same https://youtu.be/OKuKo9AUJk4
>>381105201
Arksys is your favorite dev? Lmao.
This is probably the best video I've seen explaining the basics
https://youtu.be/_LhGeEC-ubA
My only worry is if the game is a bit simple, but it isn't like marvel style games are super complex at the base level. mvc3 any idiot can mash out a basic combo
>>381105572
>My only worry is if the game is a bit simple, but it isn't like marvel style games are super complex at the base level. mvc3 any idiot can mash out a basic combo
its only 20% developed
>>381105117
>producer said familiar music will be in DBZF
>bardock has a character theme
>bardock is popular enough that he can go super saiyan 3
>has a ton of attacks that could reasonably fit in a fighting game
>is a fan favorite
its only a matter of time before we get to hear solid state scouter remade by Daisuke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm77VCkf_do
>frieza hulks out to 100% form if you do nova strike
>completely uninteresting otherwise
I guess it's okay
>>381105572
A lot of game have auto-combo for newbies. They are usually not optimal and wasteful in terms of meter and other resources.
To do actually impressive shit in MVC3 requires good movement skills and knowledge of the game's in-depth canceling system.
>>381105872
>super saiyan 3
that means nothing anymore
>>381106115
Heroes does everything
Bardock was special enough to get it in something besides Heroes
>>381102132
24 or so characters does seem likely, but that 20% isn't related to characters so much as it is the overall game.
>>381105117
I want Bardock in
I DON'T want shitty mary sue SSJ3 Bardock the spinoffs and video games have turned him into
>>381105572
Play Persona 4 Arena. You're going to get something in that vein.
>>381096053
>Wanting different forms as different characters
The DBZ fanbase is the fucking worst when it comes to picking up rosters on fighting games.
>>381106812
You didn't like Super Saiyan Bardock?
>>381105494
Yep. I love fighting games. They make the best fighting games, and as an drawfag, I admire Daisuke as both an artist and musician. He's one if my main influences when it comes to art.
Janemba
Mercenary Tao
Jackie Chun
Bacterian
Spike (aka Devil Man)
Baby
Wish listing...
Mustached Vegeta
>>381106965
Nope. What makes Bardock cool is that he's an unrepentant self-serving asshole who realizes too late he's fighting on the wrong side and dies for it
making him some messiah Super Saiyan is completely missing the point of the character. Even Toriyama fell to the hype when he made Minus
>>381106965
Who does?
>>381107024
They ruined Baiken
>>381106845
I think assists alone will make it a bit more complex than p4a
who here /golden/?
>>381106965
Not him but super saiyan Bardock was dumb. I loved it, but it was pure fanservice. Super saiyan 3 Bardock is moving into fan fiction tier
>>381107280
I don't watch Super dogshit
>>381101516
Take out Jiren and Dabura and put Black in and it's probably the most accurate roster
>>381107317
Super Saiyan Bardock is already fan fiction tier, fag
>>381107280
My nigga.
>>381101516
>8 Super characters
disgusting
>>381096053
>3 Gokus
>3 Vegetas
>2 Gohans
>both Super and Kid Buu
This is awful
>>381107562
this
>>381107280
Lakers Freeza is just terrible looking and his movie's the worst in the series
>>381107380
>replace unique characters with muh evil clone
nah
>>381107572
Didn't know much about how asw works, I updated it here:
>>381101182
>>381107562
There's only 4 there.
>>381107627
>his movie's the worst in the series
Nigga you're out of your fucking mind if you think any of the nu-DBZ movies are the worst in the series. Lord Slug, Return of Cooler, and both Broly sequels are fucking god awful
and Freeza returning (again) was actually fucking based, he's back in form instead of being the little bitch he was in the movie
>>381107665
>muh evil clone
>I haven't watched Super and I don't know anything about Black
fuck off, they would have a completely different moveset, Black is nothing like Goku in fighting style or personality, all they have in common is a basic appearance
>>381101516
>the stick figure fem saiyans
its shit
I need Jackie Chun, Launch, Monster Carrot, and Future 1-armed Gohan
>>381107943
>Nigga you're out of your fucking mind if you think any of the nu-DBZ movies are the worst in the series. Lord Slug, Return of Cooler, and both Broly sequels are fucking god awful
You're fucked in the head.
Please kill yourself.
>>381108001
I thought about that last one, but I can't think of anything that would actually make his move set unique.
>>381107339
>>381107562
someone's mad
>>381107842
Beerus, SSJ blues, Trunks Super iteration and the obvious 4 at the bottom right
>>381107943
black is a garbage clone
>muh evil autistic kai body switches goku
its shit
fucking ginyu wannabe with shitty pink hair
>>381097757
wtf this list is basically every dbz game pre the ps2 era ones, quality trumps quantity my friend. This is a fighting game, like an actual fighting game, not an anime game. Who cares how many characters it has as long as it actually plays good.
All I ask for is Beerus. Maybe Whis, but he hasn't done much in terms of attacks, so that's pretty much not gonna happen.
>>381108136
Don't even waste your time trying to reason with Superfags.
>>381108129
>that image
someone's cherrypicking
and from blurays no less, you fag
>>381108082
The broly sequels are objectively terrible, sorry. Lord Slug is a bad King Piccolo rehash, and Return of Cooler looks worse than Super on a movie's budget (pic related) it's embarrassing
I bet your worst complaint about RoF is "hurr durr muh powerlevels don't make sense"
>>381107943
RoF is legit terrible no tension throughout the whole thing and the humor was shit to even made Beerus and Whis unbearable with the nonstop babble about muh food
>>381107943
RoF is a 90 minute long drag where Freeza's a complete joke and the final battle's plagued by shitty 3D, terrible choreography and capped off with a shitty ending. Gotta love the complete lack of tension the entire time
>>381108273
My complaint about RoF is hurr durr fifth time the faggot has been the antagonist.
Boring fucking rehashed dog shit.
While the other movies might not be great, they have better antagonists, plots, etc... compared to the fuck awful Super abortions.
>>381108132
>Beerus, SSJ blues, Trunks Super iteration
Anon, they're all Z
Beerus first appeared in Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods
SSJB appeared in Dragon Ball Z: Ressurection F
Trunks is literally just a design change of the same character who appeared in the Cell saga.
>>381108470
Those are both movies, you cunt.
>>381096053
>C16
Android 16 isn't a cyborg.
>>381108230
>c-cherrypick
even in funmation's remasters for GT, all the shit that was left in the originals still remain as of now.
call me when BASED SHIDO is doing a remake of that grand tour shitshow that was supposed to be cancelled after Baby Saga.
>>381108470
BoG was really good, but everything it spawned afterword is pretty awful
>inb4 my main man becomes an assist cuck again
>>381108769
I could see him and Babidi as a Relius-like puppet character
>>381108603
Yes.
Z movies.
>>381108470
The blues will just be reskins since they bring absolutely nothing new to the table.
>b-but muh SSB Kaioken
Will just be the same animation as SSj3 Goku doing the finisher
>>381108676
I know, it's fault of my country's dub.
which?
>>381108769
There's enough material to give Dabura a fleshed out moveset, but what could be his level 3 super special?
>>381108901
They'll at least have a different moveset.
>>381109031
>calling anyone dense when you can't see the big old Z on the front
>>381109101
Neither, they're both a waste of time.
>>381109172
>HUUUUUUUUUUUUURURRRRRDUUUUUUUUUUR THE LETTER IS THERE
>>381109101
the only acceptable version of everything
>>381109172
Which episodes of Dragonball Z is Beerus in?
>>381107280
right here
>>381108702
it's "Shida", not Shido
Who else hyped for Wednesday when Superniggers get BTFO for the first of many times?
>>381109339
The canon movies
Does best Gohan have a chance.
>>381109339
you're wrong anon, you're just wrong, Beerus was written into the cannon before super became a thing
>>381109431
So now we've confirmed you can't even read.
Kill yourself.
>>381109482
>Beerus was written into the cannon before super became a thing
Movies aren't canon
If Beerus wasn't in an episode of Dragonball Z he isn't a Dragonball Z character.
He's a movie character and / or Super character, cunt.
>>381103490
The only reason people want Gogeta over Vegito is because the former is a better fusion name. Vegito only gives you the o sound from Goku, what's that shit?
>>381108769
if only they gave a shit about the west wanting DB Heroes being relevant in international spinoffs
>>381109391
You know, when I first saw Golden Frieza I have to admit that I was in the
>WTF IT'S A RECOLOR
group then I realized the subtle differences in the form and how much more smug Frieza got once attaining the form.
That's when I joined up with the Frieza bros.
>>381109603
why are anti-superfags so fucking militant and angery all the time? Jesus christ
>>381109136
They won't because none of them have done anything worth making a new moveset out of. Especially Vegetto
>>381109608
actually the ito part comes from how the japanese say kakarot which is kakarotto
so its Vegeta/Kakarotto
Vegito
yes its fucking stupid and translates poorly
>>381109460
considering he has to compete against ultimate gohan, no.
>>381109603
i'm curious I get disliking RoF but Bog is great, why don't you like it anon?
>>381109608
>Vegito only gives you the o sound from Goku, what's that shit?
The original spelling is "Vegetto". It's the "Vege-" from "Vegeta" and the "-tto" from "Kakarotto"
I've never understood why people love Gogeta so much, he was in one movie for 30 seconds and during his appearance in GT he was just copying Vegetto's style.
>>381109101
no collector's here?
please help :(
>>381109603
>So now we've confirmed you can't even read.
Dude, you said where did they show up in Z.
They showed up in the movies that were already stated to be canon.
You can't just say "no it's not canon because it wasn't in the anime!" because Tori outright stated that they were canon unlike characters like Hirudegarn, Broly, Janemba and Bojack.
>>381109880
>copying
>implying they're even different people
>>381109826
>>381109880
I'm gonna give a big ol' harumph to the Japanese language.
>>381096053
>predictions
Fuck I want the actual roster you tease.
Fine. Predictions
There will be a Goku.
There will be a Vegeta.
Gohan will have the best move set but still never win.
Confirmed
>Goku
>Vegeta
>Teen Gohan
>Frieza
>Cell
>Majin Boo
High chance
>Future Trunks
>Krillin
>Android 18
>Gotenks
>Piccolo
>Kid Boo
Good chance
>Beerus
>Broly
>Ultimative Gohan
>Tien
>Mr. Satan
>Gogeta
>Janemba
>Ginyu
Others
>Goku Black
>Hit
>Bardock
>Vegito
>Super Boo
>Videl
>Yamcha
GT
>Shenron
>Ssj4 Gogeta
>>381109870
Because its faggy Super shit.
Shit that bloats and beats a dead horse of an anime that should've been left fucking dead.
Want proof? Watch Super, faggot.
Hurr durr, blue hair super saiyan is strongest
Hurr durr, bunny rabbit god of destruction above the supreme god above the grand god above the king god above yenma
Hurr durr, Frieza is still dead but somehow a threat again
Winnie the Pooh too bro
>>381109932
THE MOVIES ARE NOT CANON
If you think Beerus being in a movie with Z in it means he's canon literally every fucking movie villain is canon. Broly, Slug, etc...
>>381110149
>THE MOVIES ARE NOT CANON
Tell that to Toriyama and the Super adaptations.
>literally every fucking movie villain is canon. Broly, Slug, etc...
Okay, try and fit the movies in to the timeline.
>>381109689
Freeza is my favorite DB villain and I was glad to see him get a power boost in RoF. The form isn't really that good looking but using a gold form as way to get back at Goku was neat. Good to see they're treating his second revival way better than the first.
>>381109101
Get the cassette my nigga
There's no such thing as canon, spergs. Give it a rest.
Most of the movie villains aren't even that bad, what's with the hate? No one gives a shit about the canon when it comes to the games too
I want Never-Happened Krillin.
The Krillin that learns Kaokin. The Krillin that powers up by absorbing a spirit bomb into his aura. A fucking angel form if need be. Or just a human with so many naruto hax moves he can still beat guys more powerful than himself. Oh wait that's actual describes most human techniques.
Solar Flare + Destructo Disk, if we mention this combo enough times, in enough decades, they'll eventually use it right?
>>381110341
>Tell that to Toriyama and the Super adaptations.
Toriyama literally forgot characters as the fucking series when on, his opinion means fuck all.
>Okay, try and fit the movies in to the timeline.
That'll take a bit considering its 13 movies.
>>381108454
>Complains about RoF being a rehash
>Proceeds to call the DB movies better despite being even more blatant rehashes
>>381110529
No one said they were bad.
It's just that one anon doesn't want to accept that he's wrong.
>>381110341
>Okay, try and fit the movies in to the timeline.
Broly is like a week before Cell Games and Bojack is a year after it. someone do the rest
>>381110149
that isn't an answer retard BoG is a separate product from super and i'm asking you specifically about that
For the longest time the movies weren't canon. If this changed or was simply never the case, news to me.
Recommend a place to go watch Super, I'm behind. Thanks.
>>381110598
>Proceeds to call the DB movies better despite being even more blatant rehashes
>Broly is rehash
>Garlic Jr is rehash
>Slug is rehash
>Cooler is rehash
>Bojack is rehash
>Super Android 13 is rehash
>Hirudegarn is rehash
>FUCKING JANEMBA
Fucking kill yourself
They really went in on the references
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nZbnYEok&feature=share
>>381096053
IM GLAD YOU AREN'T a part of making this game with that SHITTY FUCKING ROOSTER!
All those wasted slots on same characters.
Producer said they wanted unique fighters,not a rooster of borderline clones.
At most there will be 2 gokus and vegetas:
One for saiyan forms and one for god forms
>>381101516
>Both Saiyan girls
Waifufags need to go.
>>381110816
>BoG is a separate product from super
That isn't an argument retard. Beerus is in Battle of Gods, Beerus is in Super.
Battle of Gods is a Super movie.
Deal with it, cunt.
So this is the new Mahvel?
How different do the characters feel so far?
I wish they'd just focus on Frieza and earlier
>Goku
>Kid Gohan
>Piccolo
>Krillin
>Yamcha
>Tien
>Roshi
>Freiza
>Vegeta
>Zarbon
>Dodria
>Nappa
>Raditz
>Ginyu
>Jeice
>Butter
>Guido
>Nail
>Saibaman
Chiaotzu will be in the roster.
>>381110595
>Toriyama literally forgot characters as the fucking series when on, his opinion means fuck all.
So suddenly the creator and his works are all irrelevant because he forgot things as people do.
Does that mean that DBZ is actually an episodic monster of the day show where none of the episodes are connected?
Because that's literally what you're implying here.
>That'll take a bit considering its 13 movies.
Not really no because they don't fit, characters were either dead or doing something completely different at the time and there are 15 movies
>>381110823
Who cares if they are canon or not? Why would you want LESS characters?
Not to mention budokai 3 the game they've been banking on for nostalgia for shitty 90's kid had some movie characters and even gt characters
>>381106115
Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue also mean nothing. Literally every enemy afterwards have matched or exceeded them. They might as well not exist. What a fucking joke.
>>381110894
>Slug is rehash
Of King Piccolo yes
>Cooler is rehash
of Frieza Yes
>Bojack is rehash
of Cell yes
>FUCKING JANEMBA
Of Buu yes
>Super Android 13 is rehash
Of Androids 16,17 and 18
Hirudegarn is only one that can't be based off anything because his movie is the only one that makes an effort to be it's own thing
Nearly every movie follows the same beats of the anime arc it ripping off.
>>381111039
you're not getting it stupid
regardless of what it's canon to, how is it as a movie follow up to dragonball z is what i'm asking
also using that logic Super and Gt mat as well be cannon too since Goku appears in everything
>>381110071
I really want Tien in this. I know he's much more popular in NA than Japan though, so his odds are probably lower than I expect.
>>381108470
>>381108132
Ya'll niggas have been arguing across the whole thread. The Beerus and Gold Freeza movies were intended to be canon to the story but were decanonized by Super. Which is also canon until otherwise stated no matter how much you whine.
It's really unfortunate that BoG had so much goodwill going for it and it's been downhill since RoF. Toriyama actually wanted to revisit the story and give it new life with BoG. He was so determined to discard transformations that he basically threw SSG aside in the same movie it was introduced, with Goku being able to maintain god level with normal Super Saiyan. Then somebody saw big squintbucks, and Toriyama has never had much willpower, so he easily forgot all that shit and had another transformation introduced in the next movie. The powerups don't mean shit at the current level.
>>381111181
>as people do.
I didn't realize WRITING FUCKING STORIES AND DESIGNING CHARACTERS THAT BECOME HUGELY POPULAR WORLD WIDE AND FORGETTING THEM WAS SOMETHING EVERYONE FUCKING DOES CUNT
>>381111370
>>Bojack is rehash
>of Cell yes
>>FUCKING JANEMBA
>Of Buu yes
lol kys
>>381111370
>>FUCKING JANEMBA
>Of Buu yes
KILL
YOUR
SELF
>>381096053
>Vegito
I dont think he will be a stand along character. But I do love the idea of them being a super that fuses Vegeta and Goku together if you have them both still standing in your roster.
>>381111434
He's pretty right about Bojack. Same end like the Cell games as well.
>>381110812
>Broly is like a week before Cell Games
Doesn't fit. There were 10 days before the Cell games where Goku decided to relax at home while maintaining SSJ for that duration. In the movie they're acting as if they weren't in that period while at the same time being after that period.
>Bojack is a year after it.
Trunks was in the movie so no
>>381098403
I guarantee we'll at least get the two new Saiyan girls into the game just to give ArcSys some waifu material.
>>381096053
>What are your realistic expectations for DBFZ's roster?
>Goku
>Teen Gohan
>Mystic Gohan
>Vegeta
>Future Trunks
>Krillin
>18
>Piccolo
>Roshi
>Yamcha
>Tien
>Majin Buu
>Beerus
>Frieza
>Perfect Cell
>Kid Buu
>King Piccolo
>Omega Shenron
>Goku Black
>Broly (probably pre-order DLC or some shit)
>>381111434
but Janemba is almost certainly Buu
>Starts off as Fat thing that doesn't take the entire thing seriously but is capable of serious destruction
>Transforms into a thinner form that is even more dangerous and is suddenly sadistic
>Goku and Vegeta fuse together to defeat them
Go on prove me wrong
>>381111370
Sucks that the only other unique movie, World's Strongest, doesn't have anything to go for in terms of fighter roster unless you count the biowarriors, who would not be worth the slot.
>>381111670
>Future Trunks cucks shitty movies out of existence
/our guy/
>>381111841
Gowasu watching TV was the best thing to ever happen
>>381111841
did fusion reborn come out before or after kid buu though?
>>381111553
>>381111841
not a rehash its an original story that was inspired by the anime
>>381111841
Janemba was Buu done right.
It's like Fusion Reborn was Toei's way of saying "buu saga is ass rn f.am, ima hook yall niggas up."
FR is the GOAT OAT
>>381112086
Seems like it's supposed to be some time between Fat and Super because that's the only time Goku and Vegeta were dead at the same time but Goku was at the world of the Kais at the time.
>>381096053
>multiple character clones
I genuinely feel ArcSys isn't going to go with that. It's too easy and too lazy. I can see them being skins instead.
I expect them to pick the best versions of all characters. Teen Gohan is pretty evident of that design choice.
>>381111403
I haven't argued past my first post. I realized it was dumb to make a beef about it. I only said it because 8 was a bit excessive. We don't even know what the bottom right can do yet either. It's not that they're bad. there's just nothing to work with
>>381112086
It was in development before Potara fusion became a thing.
The movie was released a week or two before Goku fought Kid Buu in the manga.
>>381112264
I meant the literal release date anon
One thing they should add to the game is visible aura output in junction with meter bar.
For example
Level 0-1 meter - no to bare visible aura
Level 7 meter - full visible aura output surrounding your fighter.
>>381112201
It can be good and a rehash at the same time. Dead Zone was a fun little interquel inbetween the Piccolo Jr Saga and the Saiyan Saga even if no one gives a shit about Garlic Jr, for example.
>>381112385
DBZ Movie 12 - The Rebirth of Fusion!! Goku and Vegeta - 4 March 1995
>>381111487
he's basically a well done version of Buu
>>381112380
Potara only became a thing because Fusion Reborn was using Fusion and Toriyama didn't want to step on it's toes
>>381112385
Oh Fusion Reborn was March 4th 1995.
Kid Buu's anime debut was August 23rd 1995.
Don't know about the chapter though.
>>381111841
>but Janemba is almost certainly Buu
This is in a sense wrong, but still right.
>Goku and Vegeta fuse together to defeat them
This was an original idea. Gogeta was thought of well before Toriyama decided to make Goku and Vegeta fuse.
>>381112760
fusion was already established though, just not Vegito
>>381112740
Dragon Ball Chapter 508 - Junsui no Majin Bū / The Pure Majin Boo - 28 February 1995
>>381109460
At best, he's a skin for Ultimate Gohan.
>>381112760
>Gogeta was thought of well before Toriyama decided to make Goku and Vegeta fuse.
When was "The Ultimate Combination" released anyway?
>>381109689
The design would still be better if it just replaced his white with gold and made his purple slightly darker instead of making him look like he was chugging grape juice.
>>381096053
Dreamteam
>>381112884
>fusion was already established though
Not for Goku and Vegeta. That hasn't been stated.
>>381099112
ORIGINAL DUB VA PLS
>>381096053
No Super 17?
>>381112937
Dragon Ball Chapter 503 - Son Goku’s Final Fusion!! - 24 January 1995
>>381113069
so? Goku and Vegeta fit the criteria for fusion, kind of and obvious thing to do
>>381113297
So the movie was most likely being finalized at that point.
>>381107627
>his movie's the worst in the series
t. Dr. Collie
>>381113427
Doesn't mean Toriyama hadn't decided to fuse Goku with Vegeta long beforehand. It's more likely that Toriyama had already decided to fuse them and when Toei asked him for designs for a new movie he passed along the idea of fusion to them in the process.
>>381111126
>>381113427
Fusion Reborn out on March 4th.
Chapter 501 was released January 5th.
Chapter 503 was released January 24th.
501 = Vegeta comes back.
503 = Vegito is made.
>>381113602
>>381113570
That's possible, but I don't think Toriyama gave them the idea of fusion. Toriyama only made Potara merging because of the fact that Toei took Fusion. I doubt he'd give them his idea then force himself to come up with a new idea.
My theory: Toei saw Gotenks and wanted a movie featuring the fusion of Goku and Vegeta. Toriyama had a similar plan, but opted to create a new fusion variant because Toei already claimed the idea.
>>381113956
Even if he didn't tell them to use fusion he still gave them the idea of fusion with Gotenks.
>implying Toriyama gave a shit
More like Toei used something already established while Toriyama created something new since that's just how he is.
>>381112707
it's sad for GT, they got Yamamuro on board of the previous GT episode where Cell and Freeza debuted at the end.
Right afterwards they got some hack animator to handle the very next episode where they fight again
>>381114115
>More like Toei used something already established while Toriyama created something new since that's just how he is.
He did give a shit, he said it in an interview. He created Potara BECAUSE Toei had already took the idea of Fusion.
>>381112264
Videl in a scene looks at her clock and it shows that it happens a week after Buu.
The only way the movie makes sense is it is a what if timeline were either Gohan or Gotenks killed Buu, resulting in Goku not being revived by the Elder Kai and Vegeta not being considered good enough to be revived, probably because he didn't fight Buu risking his existence.
>>381114390
[citation needed]
>yfw Android 18 has pieces of Blue Mary's moveset
>>381114502
>What about the concept of the Potara?
>That was simply, since Fusion was a plot point that was already taken by one of the movies, I was wondering what I should do; I had always been drawing earrings [on Kaiōshin], so I thought, “perhaps I can use these”…
>>381114881
>I don't know how to give a source
Link it, bitch.
>>381112420
Neat idea, but it looks like the raging spark (or whatever they called the xfactor/overdrive/burst mechanic) is doing that.
>>381096053
I just want to play as Mr. Popo
>>381115162
Sparking!
>>381115151
Not that anon but, here.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/daizenshuu-6-akira-toriyama-super-interview/
>In that case, GT comes with Toriyama-sensei’s recommendation!
>Toriyama: Yes! I recommend it. I’m also looking forward to it as an ordinary viewer.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/daizenshuu-7-shenlong-times/
GT confirmed best show
>>381115432
Thank you.
>>381115162
Is there any confirmation as to what that does besides:
>Can cancel most moves into it
>Creates a field around the character that causes a juggle state; combo extender
>Heals blue health passively
>>381115648
>I’m also looking forward to it
Oh, if only he knew what was coming.
>>381115802
it runs out after the first use.
once a match
Really no reason for them not to add Super characters like Zamasu and Hit. They'd be fun and could use more representation.
>>381097356
>he hasn't played Dragon Ball Fusions
>>381116063
>Zamasu and Hit
Zamasu Black and Hit are fine additions, they would be great.
Zamasu Kai Zamasu is a waste of a slot.
>>381115306GET OUT, GET OUT
>>381116063
I feel that Hit in an actual fighting game would be OP because of his abilities.
>>381108210
especially when you're a retard who knows nothing about the subject he's talking about. Black's fighting style and moves are quite different from Goku's.
>>381115962
I could've sworn I heard from one of the analysis videosmaybe maxishillianthat it recovers. ASW seems to have really moved away from one-off type things these days.
>>381116221
nah, time stop's been done at least three times before in fighters, arcsys own blazblue has a character that can do it
and as for time skip, that can work the same was as a roman cancel but take up a full bar of meter instead of a quarter
>>381116248
>n-no my donutsteel is d-different I s-swear
Meta Cooler
Meta Cooler
Meta Cooler
r8 my team
>>381116531
post more anime reactions. Your newfag power level is still low. xD
@381116750
>Superniggers
Your butthurt will be awesome in ~24 hours
>>381116738
spaghet/10
>>381116173
Zamasu Kai has good moveset potential.
>>381117128
Not nearly as good as Black, imo.
>>381101516
>No Yajrobe
Its like you dont want to play as the manlet squad
>Krillin
>yajrobe
>Vegeta
>>381117353
I'd rather play as job squad
Vegeta
Gohan
Vegeta(Majin)
>>381117321
There's no real reason to not put both in then.
What's left is if merged zamasu gets a slot.
I can only hope.Or Zarbon, I'd appreciate Zarbon making it in.
>>381118453
>he wants in the original black goku
good taste my dir sear.turles was the coolest saiyan imo, he just wanted to try exotic fruits and explore the universe.