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SWITCH HATERS FOREVER ETERNALLY BTFO EL OH EL

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SWITCH HATERS FOREVER ETERNALLY BTFO

EL

OH

EL
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>Dragon Ball FighterZ dev says no Switch version
OH NO
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*also on PS4
*also on Xbox One
*also on PC

See? No one cares about multiplats
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>>381095383

So what? It's still not getting the game and even if it would likely look like shit compared to the other versions.
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>>381095675
NINTENDO ALWAYS WINS
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>>381095675
It literally says the Switch can handle the game but they want to make sure Switch owners buy games
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>>381095383
Why would you play the worse version tho.
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>>381095383
But it literally says that it won't be on switch unless there's a huge request for it
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>>381095796

>It literally says the Switch can handle the game

In 720p, 24 FPS.
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>>381096012
Anon, it's 2.5D, it's not very taxing. If the Switch could run Disgaea 5, with it's 100+ enemies on screen and have zero framedrops at 1080p while in handheld mode, it can run this.
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>>381095796
>It literally says the Switch can handle the game
Ehhh, it's not that clear cut.

They're keeping things open for a Switch version if they think the licensing and extra dev costs will be worth it. Saying that a Switch port isn't out of the question isn't the same as saying the current build could run on Switch.

A Switch build would likely necessitate a lowered resolution, lowered framerate, lower-quality shaders, and possibly a re-render of any pre-rendered videos to ensure the size of the game isn't too large.
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>>381095383
just like switch can run minecraft but with less content and worse resolution than phone version
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So basically A/AA devs are still being cautious with the system since its only been out for 3 months. Makes sense since the momentum the system has could potentially die down soon depending on how Fifa/NBA2K do on Switch compared to xbox.
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>>381096121
>Anon, it's 2.5D, it's not very taxing
That doesn't make sense.

2.5D in this case means that while the in-game movement is restricted to a 2D plane the rendering is full 3D like any 3D game - The Xrd engine also uses their own custom-built shaders to get the 2D animated look and that can't be cheap to run.
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>>381096121

>Comparing a 3d fighting game to a sprite based SRPG.
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>>381095383
I don't think anyone with a switch has the ability to play an Arc fighting game.
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>>381096121
>it's 2.5D, it's not very taxing
That has nothing to do with it.
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>>381096121
It's almost like they're different games
I bet you think fighting games are easy on resources because "it's just two guys fighting in a stage"
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>>381095383
And so the Wii U begins.
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Like I'd buy any fighting game for the Switch with its shit dpad
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>>381095383
>palying fighting games with the switch "dpad"
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>>381096295
>imma hardcore gamer mommy!!! watch me play my new dbz game! it is so deep you could't believe it!!!
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>>381096135
Autism: the post
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>>381096263
disgaea d2 could melt your ps3
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>>381096121
Disgaea runs at 720p on the Switch. And it has framedrops.

You are such a shill.
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>>381096409
Oh, then why wouldn't the Switch be able to run this game well?
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>>381096121
>full 3D game vs 2D sprites
are you literally retarded?
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>>381095675
The game is already worked on.

They just need to sell Xenoverse first
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>>381095796
>they want to make sure Switch owners buy games
More than Xboners would

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/82943/dragon-ball-xenoverse/
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/82942/dragon-ball-xenoverse/
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/122285/dragon-ball-xenoverse-2/Global/
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/21417/dragon-ball-z-burst-limit/

Anime fanbase ain't there.
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>>381096595
The point is a 2.5D game can be taxing. If the devs say the Switch can run it then I guess it can.
There are plenty of 2D arcade games from back in the day that required a ton of power that home consoles could not replicate for a few generations.
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>>381095383
Are you going to post this same thread every time your old one 404s?
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>>381095383
Well, yes. They're asking if there will be enough sales to justify the porting process aka making it less demanding so inferior hardware can run the game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0idOTz1pus
Looks like something PS2 could handle.
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>>381096527
Do you know anything at all about guilty gear xrd? Because the fighting systems are 90% identical. No one with a switch can play even street fighter games. Every fighting game put on a Nintendo system had to include an easy operation mode that basically plays the game for you ad every game still failed, and all the nintendo kiddies still complained it was too difficult. Someone had to go out of their way to create a game that only uses one button (smash) to allow nintens to pretend they're playing fighting games.
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Japanese developers always take time with getting on board to support new consoles. It took a good year before they moved to 3DS as their main platform. Same with PS4 since most games were still mainly developed for PS3.
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>>381096295
I don't own a Switch (or any current gen console), but I basically picked up Guilty Gear (I think it was the XX AC version) thanks to the Wii. Granted, I grew up playing SNK fighting games, but GGXX is the only game I actually went comp.

I was the only fag who played the Wii version, tho, I had to jump to the PC version asap.
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>>381096535
When did not being a retard become autism for you niggers
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>>381097228
Because if you actually reqd the article they actually say power isn't a problem the only problem is that they want to see if there is a market for it
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>>381097073
A lot of devs didn't even support the 3DS.
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Switch owners port begging for every single multiplatform to go to their console is getting PCfags tier obnoxious.

Stop buying systems with no games instead of bitching.
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>>381096595
No one knows enough about the specific game itself to know if it would run well on the Switch as of the current build.

Comparing it do Disgaea 5 is retarded, though. Disgaea 5 is sprite-based with extremely simplistic environmental models and no complicated real-time shading to speak of.

DBFZ is full 3D in unreal 4 with a bevy of custom shaders tailor-made to simulate 2D animation with 3D models. It's also full of massive particle effects with their own local lighting. Those are far more taxing than anything in Disgaea.

Supposedly the PS4 is able to run DBFZ at a solid 60; it's probably a safe bet that it barely does so (as opposed to the PS4 churning out 90+ FPS without a limiter), which would mean that the Switch would likely not be able to run at 60FPS at the target resolution.

GPU/resolution concerns aside I'd be worried about particle simulation taking a toll on the CPU.
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>>381097463

This. Buy your consoles according to the games you want and not some babby-tier "loyalty" dogshit. Stop being fanboys.
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Not fucking fair ...
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>>381097342
>Because if you actually reqd the article they actually say power isn't a problem
You're an idiot, anon. They even explicitly say that a Switch version would require further development.

Reading comprehension. Get some.
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>>381095383
Yeah so blown the fuck out no one wants to buy these shelf warmers.
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>In an interview with Gameblog, the game's producer, Tomoko Hiroki, spoke about Dragon Ball Fighter Z and the Nintendo Switch. She started by addressing concerns that the Switch isn't capable enough: "There is really no question of power. We don't really encounter any difficulty with the Switch version of Xenoverse 2."
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>>381097782
shitposters and consolewarriors will ignore this post
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>>381097546
>No one knows enough about the specific game itself to know if it would run well on the Switch as of the current build.

its a 2.5D fighting game, they are literally nothing to run, if the switch can run dragon ball xenoverse it'll be able to run this, hell even my vita could run xenoverse.

its just bandai dipping there toes in to see what happens.
my hope is it sells well and we get some good gundam games off them.
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>>381097669
>They even explicitly say that a Switch version would require further development.
They actual say "there's no question in power" and how they haven't ran into any problems with implementing any games like Xenoverse 2.
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>>381096742

Source?
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Let's show some fucking interest. I want this on the switch
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You stupid fuckers

They're saying if you don't buy xenoverse they know switch players don't care about DBZ
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>>381097656
>xbro has the biggest dick
What did he mean by this?
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Is it really worth it for them to port this over to the Switch? How many people only have a Switch and no PC/ps4/xbone? Seems like just wasting money to port this to the switch.
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>>381096909

Sorry to rain on your parade, but this is what a DBZ game on PS2 looks like.

https://youtu.be/Nz8fM5V_9zE?t=563
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>>381097943
Hiroki goes on to talk the likelihood of Fighter Z making an appearance on Switch: "I will say that if we continue to receive requests from fans, we may manage to create a Switch version also."
https://mic.com/articles/180253/dragon-ball-fighter-z-switch-release-date-fan-demand-could-bring-nintendo-release-says-producer#.YyiM9jEON
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>>381097656
>Nintendo and PC users have tiny dicks
That says it all.
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>>381097881
>They actual say "there's no question in power"
Which means that they would be able to get -A- version of the game running after they developed one.

That's not the same as saying the Switch can run the PS4 build at the same speed. Don't be such a moron.
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>>381095383
This would actually be pretty awesome. I'm getting it for PC just because that's where everyone I know plays on, but having a portable version sounds sick. Fighting games are one of the few genres where you just put it on and mostly everyone will have some amount of fun. Seems like a good fit for the Switch.
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>>381098120
It's actually a waste to port it to Xbox because the DBZ fan base on that is small.
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>>381095383
He literally says and confirms that absolutely nobody that bought a switch would buy the game
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>>381095383
>Switch owners have to beg for a game that could have effortlessly been ported to the system anyway

Wasn't ArcSys supposed to be supporting this system? Why is this even necessary?
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>>381097073
>they moved to 3DS as their main platform
You mean Vita and PS4
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>>381098206
>Which means that they would be able to get -A- version of the game running after they developed one.
Did you just skip over the part about Xenoverse?
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>>381098189

This article says nothing about a port being in the works.
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>>381097720
https://mynintendonews.com/2017/06/19/japan-the-nintendo-switch-sells-out-in-six-minutes/
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>Did you just skip over the part about Xenoverse?
No, I didn't skip the part where they talk about porting a PS3 game to Switch.
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>>381098341
"Supporting the system" or showing up in one of those developer graphics is another way of saying "these devs have devkits".

Also, ArcSys aren't the ones who decide if it's gonna be ported. That's up to Bamco, and I'm guessing they're gonna wait and see how Xenoverse 2 performs.
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>>381098408
No it doesn't but if fans want it to happen it could.
>>381097720
What are display boxes for 500 Alex
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Why are Nintendo fans so petty?
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>>381095383
No one plays fighting games on a Nintendo system unless it's exclusive to it.
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I don't know about this. Sounds like a bit of bullshit. If they really cared about "fan interest" they'd just look at the sales of the switch and decide from there. While I don't have any numbers off the top of my head, from what I've read, it's one Nintendos fastest selling systems. It must be tech or something else behind the scenes.
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Read between lines.

They even got a Blazblue title coming
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>>381098465
>Xenoverse 2 was on the Ps3
Ok anon
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>>381098270
Yeah, now that I think about it for 2 seconds, at least Switch has the portability aspect to it. Then again I can, see there being some normalfags who only own a Xbone, but I wonder if thats worth it for the devs.
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>>381098341
>could've been effortlessly ported
You're retarded.

ARM vs x86, APU vs GPU+CPU, massive difference in power, half the available memory, etc., etc.

I really wish you fucking teens who don't even know goddamned javascript would stop pretending you're hardware specialists or software developers

Browsing /v/ doesn't mean you know shit about dev
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>>381098120
With this mentality, switch will have no 3rd party games
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>>381098629
wasn't Central Fiction supposed to be the last one?
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>>381095383
>hey this popular hyped game literally everybody else is getting?
>we JUST MIGHT get it too at some point in the future
>HAHA NINTENDO WINS BTFO BTFO
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Why are Switchfriends overestimating their system so much?
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>>381098618
>it must be tech or something else
Jesus christ, why is everyone retarded but me

A switch port would take more dev time. More dev time means more money the publisher has to invest. Publishers don't want to invest money unless the return is clear.

Anyone saying it's an "easy port" is a moron. There's no such thing.
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>>381095383
>not even 4 months since release and people are already port begging
KEK can't wait until PC and switch start having petition wars
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>>381095383
GG xrd runs fine on the ps3 so why wouldnt this work?
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>>381095383
>if fans show interest

Well, have they been? I feel like the Switch could be a really good console for fighting games. Not sure why I just do. Maybe it's because of ARMs and King of Fighters.
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>>381095796
No, it just says the switch being underpowered is not the reason the game is not coming to switch.
It still might be too underpowered, it's just not the reason.
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>>381095383
Nintendo console owners don't buy third party games though. This isn't my opinion it's a fact.
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>>381095383
I am a switch hater and I hope you guys get it. It's a good game. Hopefully some people graduate from smash to a real fighting game
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>>381098838
Nintendo said it would be different this time!
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>>381098937
Duke Nukem 3D has full mirrors so why doesn't <insert modern AAA here>!?!?!?
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>>381098978
>No, it just says the switch being underpowered is not the reason the game is not coming to switch.
She would've said that's the reason anon.
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Are people really dumb enough to believe Nintendo on this more third party bullshit. It's underpowered to hell and no one wants to deal with it. Though, don't get me wrong, I have one and I enjoy it, but it's only for their first party. For everything else, just don't be a poorfag and get your other system of choice.
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>>381096535
>I can't bother myself to read: the post

At least bother stating the truth, ya dumb ass nigga. I've seen enough of you shitheads throwing the word "autism" haphazardly into any post that ends up being more than one sentence.
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>>381095383

I'm going to say it again

Namco is still going to release Xenoverse 2 on Switch

It doesn't make sense to announce another DBZ game until after it comes out first
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>>381098706
They probably reboot the story or something like that
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>>381099083
wat
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>>381095383
>>381095383
How is it BTFO? They say right there that they would make a port if people show interest. I swear to God, you console warriors are the most retarded scum.on Earth.
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>>381099180
but it's not the reason. it might be true, but we'll never know, since it wont be coming anyway, due to this undisclosed reason(s)
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>>381099518
OP said switch haters.
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>>381099189

Developers have gotten too comfortable with the perks of developing in powerful consoles/high-end PCs to be honest desu.

Made them too lazy and now, they feel it's too much work to deal with the "limitations" the Switch has compared to the other consoles. They never realize that Nintendo's goal isn't to make a super powerful console to compete with the other consoles, but to make a console that's easily accessible price wise, which will inevitably arise hardware limitation for the sake of the price.
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>>381099552
>it might be true, but we'll never know, since it wont be coming anyway,
Just like how NO 3rd party games are coming right?
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>>381096527
>LOL SWITCH IS TOO WEAK TO RUN GAME
>"actually, that's not why we're not doing it. heck, we might do one if it's worth our time/money
>LOL SWITCH CONFIRMED TOO WEAK EVEN IF IT IS PORTED IT WILL BE 2FPS TEH DEV SAID SO

this board is cancer, and this consolewarrig.baiting faggotry needs to stop
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>>381099518
>fails basic reading comprehension
>calls others retarded


classic display of human retardation
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>MFW he bought a switchshit
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>>381095383
>700p@30
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>>381095383
Wii U 2.
The Switch is already an afterthought
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>>381098978
>>381096135
That's what he said, though.
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>fighting game emphasizing competitive play that doesn't feature Nintendo mascots and is not an exclusive

The community will by and large be on Playstation and PC, this isn't meant to instigate it's just stating how it generally goes nowadays
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>>381099948
are you lustful?
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>>381099884

Is that even worse for the Switch though? If devs are already deciding to not port games because they don't deem it worthwhile?
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Xenoverse 2 looks good on Switch

https://youtu.be/YAHm_ybt8F4
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>>381097656
>needle dicks
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>>381095383
literally

NOGAEMS
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>>381095541
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>>381100472
>2framespersecound
HAHAHAHAHAHAA
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>>381097852
No one is questioning if the switch will run it, the devs themselves said it can, the question is how well, is there xenoverse switch footage to make it valid as a comparison?
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>>381095383
It makes sense. People who buy Nintendo systems seldom buy non Nintendo games and only from a select few franchises like MH
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>>381095383
Way to deceive everyone who can't read in this thread, how can I show interest in this though, I want it on the switch for portability, but don't mind if it doesn't end up on switch cause I can just get it on PC or PS4.
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>>381096121
> I dont know anything about computers, pls take my opinion seriously!!

" no ".
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>implying i want to play a game from this awful outdated cashcow series
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>>381100802
Yeah, if it comes up for switch later than the other platforms I'm not buying it twice, I can also play with most of my friends if I just get it for pc.
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>>381095383

If you have Twitter, retweet to them that you want a Switch port and show them interest

If we got rocket league we'll definitely get this
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>>381095796
Okay, have fun getting the game once its already dead, just like Xenoverse
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>>381096595
Why do you care when it'll be available on PC? Are you a shill?
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>Still no Ataribox port announced
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POST TEAMS

>Mystic Gohan
>Piccolo
>Freeza
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>>381100921
Ironic
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>>381101030
Don't worry every game that you want of every dead franchise that isn't first party Nintendo or Sony will be on the Ataribox.
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>>381101057
Teen Gohan
Cell
Vegeta

I hope there's some joke characters, would love Great saiyaman and Mr. Satan.
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>>381100961
It's not like Crossplay is an option so why would I care that it's dead on those systems?
>>381101057
>Zamasu
>Cell
>Teen Gohan
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>>381101154
I'm perfectly okay with this. I'd rather pay for a potential Ouya 2.0 than a Microsoft console
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>>381100956
>begging for shovelware
lmao, is there anything more pathetic than Switch owners?
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>>381096249
Anon, the Xrd enginewas made to run on PS3. The Switch is more powerful than
PS3. Why would it have a difficult time running Fighterz?
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>>381096249
you don't make sense. 2.5D isn't taxing at all, it's a really simple, old shader, and the effect is done by having 2D animators actually working the frames instead of letting the system tween automatically.
On top of that it's a fighting game with only 2 characters on screen that require any sort of interaction, said interaction being 3-4 rectangle collision check per frame.
So yeah. This game could run 60 fps on a ps3 if they wanted outside of the 4k meme
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>>381101030
Lowkey, that thing is going to get more third party support than the Switch.
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>>381100757
the first one ran at 30fps in my vita i think, and it was pretty much the same quality as the ps4 version, or not far behind.
they havent changed the visuals at all so i dont see why it wouldn't perform at the same level on a switch.
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>>381100583
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>>381101487
BTFO
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>>381095541
>See? No one cares about multiplats
The shitposting about Monster Hunter World suggests otherwise.
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>>381101487
>The Switch is more powerful than PS3

What planet are you from? The Switch uses phone technology.
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>>381101713
What if I'm pc and Nintendo?
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>>381101795
n-no you aren't
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>>381095383
What I don't get is, the game is made in UE4.

UE4 literally has a "Cook for Platform: Switch" button in the fucking menu. It's set-and-forget automatic cooking, just like for XBone, PS4, and Windows.

I would understand a wait-and-see approach if there was a meaningful cost associated with the port but holy shit it's so goddamn negligible. It's basically a week of QA testing to make sure it passes Ninty's cert for Switch games, even if you only sell like 50 copies you recouped the cost.
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>>381101795
like everyone else, nobody just owns a Nintendo.
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>>381101795
>PC and nintendo
then you get a decent MH game in moonrunes until world
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>>381095383
>if they cry hard enough we'll make a shit version of the game for them

Yay?
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>>381101613
>2.5D isn't taxing at all
Irrelevant
>it's a really simple, old shader
Relevant
>letting the system tween automatically.
Relevant
>it's a fighting game with only 2 characters on screen
They have shown more, I'm pretty sure all six can appear at once.

If a dev wanted they could make a real 2D game that could tax the system, especially since it would require the gpu to emulate 2D rendering. DBFZ is a 3D game that plays on a 2D plane.
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>>381101795
Delete this.
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>>381096135
>IMPLIED IMPLICATIONS.

PS4 and XB1 are old as fuck anon. What's more is the Switch is already proven to be capable of running games designed for their basic hardware power range. I doubt it'd even take a downgrade to work. It just might have some performance hiccups.
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>>381101789
The Wii U is slightly more powerful than PS3
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-08-30-how-powerful-is-the-wii-u-really
"It's comparable to the current generation and a bit more powerful than that."
The Switch runs games better than Wii U. All ports have had resolution bumps, higher textures
and more stable frame rates. Phone technology is really fucking good these days.
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>>381101057
andriod 17
Pikkon
SS 2 yardrat goku
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>>381099009
You don't understand what smash is or how to play it.
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>>381095383
Who the hell cares about this trash to begin with?
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>>381101260
Nintendo fans have proven time and time again that they won't buy games that aren't Nintendo games, so it'll be dead on Switch too lol
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>>381101613
If it's anything like Xrd (and I assume it is), the models are all extremely high-poly because they use almost no textures and all of the detail comes from actual geometry for lighting reasons.

Not that it particularly matters (the Switch can likely handle it), but in terms of assessing the performance the biggest impact is probably the ludicrous amounts of overdraw when 60 transparency-laden particles are laid over top of a whole bunch of detail geometry that's crunched down to the size of 3 on-screen pixels.

The draw cost per-pixel is basically 50x at that point because of all the layers that have to be reiterated. The idea that photorealism is the only performance-intensive rendering approach is nonsense.
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>>381102265
>t. capcom
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>>381098695
>etc etc etc

Switch is ALREADY PROVEN to be able to run PS4/X1 games and not just babytown shit like Disgaea
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>>381102226
everything but melee is a party game
melee is a party game that is only competitive thanks to glaring developer oversightst and glitches
when sakurai rereleases melee HD it will be without wavedashing guaranteed
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>>381102265
normies and probably people who expect the new MvC to be shit and don't want to be stuck with a shitty SFV.
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>mfw Nintendo owners have to beg third-parties for games that everyone else gets for granted
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>>381101795
>being politically correct
kys yourself faggot
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>>381099767
>Made them too lazy and now, they feel it's too much work to deal with the "limitations" the Switch has compared to the other consoles.
Lazy now means not wanting to waste months upon months "optimizing" for a shit-tier system that probably wouldn't even see as good of sales as PS4 or PC? They'd be lucky to see XB1 sales if the game had to be downgraded.
>They never realize that Nintendo's goal isn't to make a super powerful console to compete with the other consoles, but to make a console that's easily accessible price wise
Shit's still sold out everywhere and going for scalper prices. It's not a cheaper console as of this minute. You can buy a PS4 Pro or a Xbox One X for the same damn price.
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>>381098695
all of that is handled by unreal engine, you are retarded
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>>381102141
>computer "power" is a linear scale
Oops, you're retarded

10:1 U4 has a shitload of bugs on ARM
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>>381102517
Third party relations with Nintendo are worse than people think.

If the Nintendo fans buy Xenoverse 2 maybe sometime down the line, like in a year or two they can get Fighters as well.
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When the switch gets hacked it is going to be like the PSP all over agian.
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>>381102973
You think that all of that is handled flawlessly by Unreal with no need for further development, new/custom libraries, support from the Unreal team, etc., etc., but I'm the retard?

When you grow up you'll realize engines and dev platforms are built by people on budgets, not gods.
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>>381101713
>15 fps
Most handheld MH games had a better framerate than MHW, as sad as that is.
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>>381101795
NANI
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>>381096121
Switch screen is only 720p desu
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Can the Switch even run UE4?
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>>381103142
Except studios have praised the Switch for how easy it is to get your code up and running without much work.
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>>381095383

We should see the death of nintendo in few years.
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>>381096121
>zero framedrops
As someone who owns Disgaea 5 on switch and loves it, that shit can't keep a constant the moment you have too many units walking around in the hub / pocket netherworld. It's also suffered a few times when there have been too many units in an item world stage.
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>>381103264
Being easy to develop for is different than having enough power to make multiplatform games worthwhile without a bunch of extra work optimizing bro.
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>>381095383

>beg for it and maybe we'll make a version that comes out months later but at full price!

they can fuck off
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>>381103142
yes you retard, i use unreal engine, i dont need to code special things to manage memore on pc or android, ue does that, i also dont need custom libraries, you have no idea what are you talking about yet screeches the loudest
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>>381103264
That's nice.

Fucking irrelevant, but nice.

>>381103228
Yes, though the feature set/limitations and information on platform-specific bugs or oversights is obviously known only to those with Switch devkits.
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>>381103392
No but it's more than just being accessible.

Making PS4/PC/X1 games run on Switch has a reputation for being easy. Back in 2016, many large publishers and studios were experimenting with ports. Stuff like FFXIV and Dark Souls 3. Resident Evil 7 too.
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>>381097546
>Disgaea 5 is sprite-based with extremely simplistic environmental models and no complicated real-time shading to speak of.

who gives a fuck the screen blows up with millions of particle effects and it stays at 60fps, the vita would literally explode if it tried to run disgaea

stay btfo
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>>381098342

>ps4

you mean pc
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>>381103009
Nintendo switch isn't ARM based though
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>>381103443
>I use unreal engine
that's nice
>I don't need to code special things to manage memory
No shit, dumbass, that's not what I was talking about.

You do realize that GGXrd (and therfore DBFZ) doesn't just use the in-built UE4 tools right? You understand that it's been extended, right?

Do you also understand that UE4 on an x86 platform is a different piece of software than UE4 on Switch? That the different implementations might impact performance, or impose limitations that otherwise might not exist? Did you consider that UE4 on switch is still new and likely full of oversights and bugs?

No, you didn't, because you downloaded the base engine and shitpost in amateur game dev and think you know a goddamned thing
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I've always assumed they don't want to be promising this when Xenoverse 2 is still due for release on Switch, seeing as how the 3DS has a lot of Dragon Ball games.
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>>381103735
Octa-core (4×ARM Cortex-A57 & 4×ARM Cortex-A53) @ 1.020 GHz
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>>381103535
Dude, what don't you understand? Porting used to be a total pain in the ass because of "unique architectures" that did shit in weird ass ways. Switch is easy to port to but you still have to optimize the fucking game and if the sales aren't worth it then it's not worth the effort. You don't have to go chasing down random bugs and graphical errors and all kinds of other game breaking issues but you DO have to re-texture shit and turn off features and find a way to make it run well.
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>>381103852
Considering Switch is ARM I'd bet that you actually would have to go chasing down random bugs and errors.
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Can't wait to play this on PC with mod music from the original TV show.
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>>381103742
>You understand that it's been extended, right?
>what exactly was extended, go ahead and show me

>Do you also understand that UE4 on an x86 platform is a different piece of software than UE4 on Switch?
you are fucking retard, if its x86 or x64 or switch it all doesnt matter, games are written in c++ and thats is compiled with platform 's compiler, code written for x86 will compile on the switch using switch's compiler, you seriously have no idea what are you talking about
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>>381101795
This, Nintendo for their own games and PC for literally everything else. Same here.
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>>381095796
Yes, that's because DBZ is game you play on a toy. You play it on consoles/PC.
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>>381103852
>Switch is easy to port to but you still have to optimize the fucking game
From Capcom and Fromsoft were pleased with the performance they squeezed out of it for RE7 and DaS3. Like the whole process was easy and it worked well.
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>Third parties aren't rushing to make games for a console with an install base of 1 and a half million that's full of people who've proven that they're only interested in buying games made by Nintendo.

WOW, WHAT ASSHOLES
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>>381104137
>hurr x86 is the same as ARM it ports straight over with no problems compiling
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>>381104205
So PS4, Xbox and PC confirmed for toys.
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>>381104205
So which one is it?
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>>381095383
Figures. Considering how good Guilty Gear looks on a PS3 I did assume that this should work on the Switch too considering it's more powerful than the PS3.
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>>381104287
thats how code works you retard, ue4 uses unified api on all platforms, thats literally the reason why multiplatform engines exists, but keep pretending you know shit about programming
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>>381103826
Well shit. Still we weren't talking about architecture. I said The Switch is more powerful than PS3
Which it is. Just google TegraX1 vs PS3. In regards to UE4 Nintendo already has games running on it
and Nvidia worked their asses off to get it working well on the Switch so Arc has no excuses.
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Nintendo fans also hate fighting games, that's why they go out of their way to make a party game seem like its a fighting game for the street cred
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>>381104486
>that's how code works
I see you've never ported anything from x86 to ARM

And likely never actually built anything for prod in any kind of dev environment because they are inevitably full of holes you have to report to the support team

enjoy being loud and wrong while I continue to do this to make money to live
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>>381101795
>>381104140
PC + Nintenbro is the near perfect combo

there's what, 2 or maybe 3 games on the PS4 I'm interested in, and none of them are worth buying another system for
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>>381103965
>>>381103852
>Considering Switch is ARM I'd bet that you actually would have to go chasing down random bugs and errors.

Although the x86 has some very powerful instructions, the arm can still beat it in a fight (if both have same clock speed). This is partly because the arm has a good set of registers, where as the x86 spends 1/2 of its time moving data in and out of its limited set of registers (this is less true of x86-64, is it has more registers). And partly because the Arm's simplicity leaves room for a bigger cache, and has all instructions conditional (making cache misses fewer). And arm's move multiple instruction (the only non RISC instruction), allows it to move data quickly.

I'll also add that arm 57 cores which the switch uses are way better than the x86 cores Jaguar CPU in the Xbox/PS4 they use a updated and more modern chipset than PS4/xbone
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>fighting games pretty much non-existent on Nintendo systems
>Switch is under-powered compared to competition, especially PS4 Pro and Xbox One X
>Nintenbros getting mad at Arc System for choosing to avoid an underpowered system where a fighting fanbase doesn't even fucking exist
Even PC has a bigger fighting fan base.
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>>381104775
ok smartass, show me from ue4 docs a single function that is exclusive to any platform, go ahead, oh btw im still waiting for what was extended in GGXrd that didnt exists naively in ue4
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>>381104819
>trying to imply the Switch is more powerful when it is demonstrably weaker
Just stop.
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>>381104241
>that's full of people who've proven that they're only interested in buying games made by Nintendo.
Maybe they should put the good games on the system.
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>>381104973
>code doesn't port directly from x86 to ARM without issue and platforms are never bug-free, you can't just port to switch, it would take more dev
>SHOW ME A SINGLE FUNCTION IN THE DOC THAT'S EXCLUSIVE TO A PLATFORM
You don't even know what we're talking about anymore, do you?
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>>381101713
>15 fps

Monster Hunter 4 ran on 60fps with the N3ds
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I'd actually get the game on the Switch if they made it for it and the game wasn't compromised somehow or at the very least not to any notable degree.

It sure would be a lot simpler to bring my Switch over my friends' or vice versa and then start playing "couch" multiplayer. Than to do the same with my laptop. I mean I'd still do it with my laptop, but it would be nicer to just carry around my Switch.
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>>381104861

How are we going to build a community if they don't realease games for us? It would only be smart to jump on the Switch hype train now and benefit down the line when a fuckload of people own it because they will tend to stick to established series. Realistically it might have been the smartest move to make FighterZ a Switch exclusive.
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>>381095383
>fighting games on the fucking Switch controller
W H Y
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>>381101713
>MHW will be back in 30fps
Disgusting
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>>381097720
>$400
Where are you?
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>>381105546
Probably Canada, their taxes on gaming keep going up.
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>>381105203
and you still proves you have no idea what are you talking about. behavior of a function is identical and well defined on all platforms when using ue4, you are just screeching some bullshit you've heard on /v/, show me any proof of any off your shit. wheres that doc function, wheres that ggxrd thing you claim, show my any code from entire internet about any game that states that code written for one platform doesnt work on other while using ue4. you have entire stackoverflow for this, its full of these things, i bet you will find a single case
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>>381105313
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>>381097720
>he thinks canadians are people
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>>381105621
>I don't know anything about anything.

>>381105546
Yeah, Canada's a rough place to live.
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>>381101743
I mean the game is only talked about because it used to be Nintendo exclusive and now it's on everything but Nintendo.

Not that it has any effect on /v/ users since everyone here owns either a PC or a PS4 besides a Switch but still, sony roaches have to shitpost while they can.
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>>381105626
>stack overflow
>not UE4 answer hub
Can't wait to see your game on early access, anon

Also it's pretty fucking funny that you can't seem to grasp the concept of a bug on a new version of a dev platform
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>>381105313
>How are we going to build a community if they don't realease games for us?
Nintendo burned those third party bridges a long time ago. Blame Nintendo for your lack of games. It's not developers job to fix those bridges.

Wii U had an opportunity to repair some of that and then guess what Nintendo did again? CENSORSHIP. We got a few "adult" games and then a bunch of censored shit which proved it was still a system for fucking toddlers.
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>>381101795
I'm with you bro, Xbone has no exclusives and the PS4 has like 3 games I'm interested in, 2 of them might get ported. While Nintendo gets like 6 good exclusives a year.

Also couch multiplayer. My only complain right now is future paid online but whatever.
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>>381105761
He's not wrong, you can't exactly build a fighting game community with no fighting games.
I mean the only game that's on the Switch right now are ports of already existing games.
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>>381105621
>>381105842
I thought so.
>mfw I don't live in Canada
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>>381104803
And you don't have to worry bro, Persona 5 and Yauza 0 are probably coming to PC (either by ports or PS3 emulation).
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>>381105062
GPU wise it's much weaker CPU it isn't arm chips have long surpassed what's used in the Xbox/PS4. Nintendo gets away with lower bandwidth data than the other consoles because they use System on a Chip. Everything is shared between them.

The SoC doesn't have to wait to get fed data like on other chips. The other thing the CPU isn't a bottle neck in the switch to the GPU like the PS4/Pro,Xbox/X is. The Jaguar CPU is even more outdated than the Nvidia tegra x1 Nintendo is using.
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>he thinks we, as Switch users, want multiplats that we can already play on our PC

I will always buy multiplats on PC because they're not tied to a specific piece of hardware, I can buy a new PC in 20 years and still play them. Graphics, controls, mods and free online are just a plus.
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>>381105951
ue4 has new versions of every devkit with every new ue4 revision, that includes xbone and ps4, switch is not any special, oh also, phones are ARM, never heard anything about game written for x86 in ue4 and not working on them, care to post a link stating otherwise?
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>>381095541
How can Goku be in Smash if his game isn't even on Nintendo systems?
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>>381095383
From a dev of a 2d fighter? Widely knows as the pillows of tech? You could probably get DBZF on the Wii U with nothing lost.PS3 did the Naruto UNS game witch isn't as smooth as DBZ fighters but it's no slouch.
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>>381106309
I don't know about you but a portable version would be great.
Personally it'll give me something new to do during a night shift.
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Switch users are quickly becoming the most cancerous community on /v/. The amount of asshurt and lashing out is unreal.
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>>381106575
I mean there are barely any people owning a Switch (3 millions worldwide?) yet sony roaches shit post about them all day.
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>>381106575

They are starting to realize that the Switch is the Wii U 2.0.
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>>381106661
You know he's just going to do something like
>but they do x and we just want to chill!
Right?
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>>381106826
I liked the Wii U, it gave me more good games than the PS4 and Xbone combined. I mean I can't find anything like Bayonetta 2, Mario 3D World, Xenoblade X, Splatoon or Mario Kart 8 in the other platforms.
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>>381106495
Hell, PS3 had Revelator Xrd and that's the single most assbackwards system to port to let alone make games from scratch.
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>>381095541
But portable.
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>>381105951
>>Also it's pretty fucking funny that you can't seem to grasp the concept of a bug on a new version of a dev platform
Mario odyssey is made in UE4, looks like it will be bug ridden, thanks for warning me bro
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>>381107041
>implying Bayonetta 2 won't be ported to PC eventually
>implying Xenoblade X wasn't censored
>implying that doesn't just leave Nintendo first party titles
lol

>>381107210
Sony has the biggest fighting game audience, it was worth the effort. Nintendo aint got shit.
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>>381108112
Actually you're the one implying stupid things here.
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>>381095796
No shit. Their engine run on the FUCKING PS3. You're glad about this?
You're eternally retarded.
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>>381096012
>Switch games sacrificing framerate

No.
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>>381108112
>>implying Bayonetta 2 won't be ported to PC eventually
It ain't getting ported unless Nintendo give the go ahead.
Even Kamiya himself said that.

Also the reason Sony has the biggest fighting game community is because they're getting the games.
You can't build a community when the only exclusive fighting games on other systems are Smash and Killer Instinct.
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>>381108759
can't sacrifice frame rate if there's no games to begin with.
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>>381108781
see>>381106078
Nintendo had amazing third party support at one point and they ruined it. More specifically, Nintendo of America ruined it. Then Nintendo of Japan extended an olive branch and got a bit of support and Nintendo of America proceeded to ruin it again. You can't build a community until you address the issues with Nintendo of America treating this like a family friendly system.

The type of banter that runs rampant in fighting games would NOT jive with Nintendo of America's squeaky clean image. We can't even get really basic shit like sexy women without getting random censorship or have characters with really dark personalities have their characters re-written to be less sadistic. Or to have religious references in a game. I thought this shit would end with SNES but nope, still alive and well in the current fucking year.
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>>381108090
>A dev platform having a bug that might effect an attempt to make an untouched port is the same thing as a game having a bug
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>>381109283
if nintendo is not able to release working devkit its not devs fault nor is it epic's fault, thats nintendo problem, if nintendo doesnt care about code quality then they dont deserve games
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>>381105264
yeah but

>240p
lol
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>>381105541
>pc
>30 fps
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>>381106078
>Wii U had an opportunity to repair some of that and then guess what Nintendo did again? CENSORSHIP. We got a few "adult" games and then a bunch of censored shit which proved it was still a system for fucking toddlers.
You realise that Nintendo only censored their own games right?
The reason the Wii U lost the initial third party support is because everyone had already owned the games they had put out on it and on top of that they were subpar and rushed ports.

Do you think that they're just going to eat shit for a CHANCE of getting a decent game?
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>>381101057
Kale :^)
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>>381101057
>Piccolo
>vegeta
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>>381109245
Switch is being marketed differently. Look at the ads. They all star 20 somethings doing young people stuff.

Things are changing.
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>>381098463
>ship 12 console
>OH MAH GUD THEY'RE SELLING LIKE HOTCAKES
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>>381100921
what's wrong with mario?
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>>381109283
yes it is, bug is a bug, no matter what is causing it
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>>381095796
Of course it can, it's the same graphics as Xrd and it runs on PS3. Doesn't mean it's going to look as good as PS4/PC/XBOX though, I remember Xrd on PS3 running at lower fps and being full of pixels thanks to low res and no AA.
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>>381096135
The game isn't that graphically intensive. It's running off the same tech they used for Xrd, which ran fine on the PS3.
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>>381096768
Doubt the Switch would sell half that.
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>>381096945
>smash
>1 button

Way to out yourself as an ignorant fgcuck
>>
I think we should also take the time to laugh at the mustard cucks who will have a completely nonexistant playerbase a month after release.
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>>381097656
>Nintendo and PC have needle dicks
>Nintendo is shaven
>PC is gay as fuck
>Microsoft is slightly more buff
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>>381095383
Fuck, I was planning on getting it for PC, but I would love to turn the Switch into a portable fighting game machine. Just being able to take it out and play a few rounds is a huge selling point for the system, if it ever gets enough fighting games.
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>>381112751
Duh, because the game has been out forever.
Then again, Disgaea saw better results on the Switch than on the PS4 so you never know.
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>>381113081
Oh yeah man, perfect console for fighting games, what with the no Dpads and minimal pad/stick support, right?
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>>381113467
And this is why no one likes the FGC.
Everything is always about competitive play.
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>>381113467
I'll just buy pro pads. Shit man, you act like playing videogames doesn't cost money to begin with. I'm not playing with you, so what the fuck do you care?
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>>381113620
I said absolutely nothing about competitive play, you fucking retard. But the Switch literally doesn't have a Dpad, and if you're bringing out a pro controller it kills portability.

Fucking idiot.
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>>381113798
>I said absolutely nothing about competitive play
Are you being intentionally retarded?
You're acting as if that makes the game impossible to play just because it lacks a d-pad.

>and if you're bringing out a pro controller it kills portability.
>Pack switch
>pack pro
>set up switch somewhere else
>use pro somewhere else
How is that killing the portability if you can still take it with you?
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>>381113959
>How is that killing the portability if you can still take it with you?
I have to assume that anon is a very tiny elf. We should pity him.
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>>381095383
Fighter Z will be on every other platform though. Want kind of gimped faggot would only own a Switch and NOTHING else?
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>>381114729
We just talked about people wanting to play on the go. Shit, if it ends up being as good as it looks, I don't see the problem with buying it twice: One for pure graphical performance, the other for on the go. Training your skills on a trip is always a nice option.

I'd love if the Switch got a lot of fighting games on it. Fuck, if it got Ultra SF4 instead of 2, I'd probably buy it.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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