https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrn -v4ySSlc was he right?

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Communists aren't human.

>>381091768
Big Boss just hates CIA niggers.

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>>381092028

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>>381091768
> "Throughout the Internet, countless websites are dedicated to vilifying Che with demagogical pieces written with hatred taking things out of their context to place Che under a negative light. In the best demagogical fashion, words and events twisted around to set the reader against him. It’s extremely easy to view Che negatively when the only things you hear about him are the ones circulating in right-wing pro-Unitedstatian websites in the Internet, notably ignorant and cynical regarding the reality of Latin America, so I have summarized here the key points to his vilification and deconstructed them with the facts.

If you’re a Metal Gear fan, you’re probably thinking of the media manipulation that depicted Solid Snake as a terrorist after the Tanker Incident in MGS2, or the way Big Boss is generally depicted in the series as a dictator bent on world domination. Kojima included these themes for a reason. In MGS2 in particular, the extent to which information can be manipulated without us ever noticing or questioning the source is one of the most important matters discussed, if not the most important one."

> tfw commie shits fellate Kojima for making BB so similar to Che, forgetting that he's supposed to be the bad guy

>>381091892
They should have just shot that commie fuck right when they caught him so his last words would be him begging for his life.

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>champagne socialist upper middle classer in comfy western country falls for el Che was a hero meme
>totally disregards that he hated blacks even more than he did whites and that the reason he and Castro fell out was because Castro wasn't insane enough to launch some Russian nukes at the US and Europe

So what's new?

>>381092028
lotta resentment for a former FOX member

retards /general/ here?

americucks trying to villaify him while commie cucks makes him hero again.

he was a good man in my eyes but not a hero neither villain.

>>381092980
> you're an American if you don't think he dindu nuffin wrong

>>> /leftypol/

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>>381092028
leave the traitor to me

Che Guevara was a murderer who took pleasure in killing people, was the executioner himself in many of those, and would gladly give the OK to piles of papers about if cubans should be put to death via firing squads.

He was also a coward, when he was caught, he shouted that he was more worthy alive than dead rather than fighting to the death. His forte was killing people who were tied up, what a brave warrior.

>>381091892
The colonel that captured and killed Che Guevara stated, "for me that wasn't even the most important day of my life i remember it as any other day".

>>381094463

Ironically that was indeed the most important day of his life.

>>381094463
is this the adult version
"nothin personnel" ?

>>381091768
farthest left, actually.

>>381091768
> warmonger fellating a warmonger

gee...

>>381094463
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlhOUyy4wbs

>>381092779
>champagne socialist upper middle classer

Thats what Che as well as Castro were though.

had no idea, into the trash it goes

>>381095360
tbf Che ran away from his comfy life to be a revolutionary

that's a bit better than the rich college kids LARPing as him

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>tfw kojima is a bernie supporter

Venom > Jack

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>>381095590
he lived a comfy life as a revolutionary, he wasn't starving or having to make ends meet, all he had to do was to sign papers giving the approval for el paredon executions, hardly a poor revolutionary suffering

>>381095801
Really?

>>381091768
Big Boss as a playable character was the biggest mistake in this series

>>381095801
since when was Kojima an American citizen?

>>381095891
medios de consumo =/= medios de producción
ahora a chupársela al golpista de leopoldo, chaval

>all this neo-nazi propaganda
You guys are as bad as liberals.

>>381092779
>Hated blacks
He fighted with them in Congo, the comments that right wing fags interpret as "racist" are that he critized them as being uneffective because they didn't know how to guerilla

>>381096321
nazis are left wingers just like communists, they're socialists of a different kind, also the party was the Workers Party of Germany, it's not le horseshoe meme, nah those people are all revolutionaries of different flavors, pick the national flavor or the international one

>>381095801
Makes sense considering they're both hacks.

>>381096413
But they did know how to... GORILLA! I'll be here all week, gentlemen!

nothing said is about politics. BB admired Che as a leader.

>>381096459
Capitalists of Germany thrived in the Third Reich, how is that socialism?

>>381096459
>Nazis are left wing
You are dumb as shit, how can an ideology that defines themselves in opposition of all left wings ideas (be anarchism, communism or soc-dem) be left wing in itself??

>>381091768
Big Boss is basically a fictional Japanese anime version of Che Guevara.

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>>381096787
lol no Hitler said he would put the capitalists on their knees, and he forced them to work for him, the richest guy Tissen tried to leave Germany but Hitler brought him back and made him work for him

he also said Islam was a great religion for Germany, just like left wingers love to suck on the mohammedan cock balls deep

>>381096831
How does it oppose left wing agendas? Same centralized government leading to a dictatorship, pro abortion at any time, pro euthanasia, pro gun control, those are all flags communists will gladly march under.

>>381096662
>It's another "/pol/ gets triggered at something sightly pollitical in videogames for no reason" episode

>>381096413
> right wing fags

n-n-nice

>>381097080

/pol/ Imao xD

Fighting for those weak and poor who are exploited by others isn't wrong. What Che did wasn't wrong. It never needs to happen unless the opposing force can just respect and help their fellow human.

LOL KILL GOMMIE xD

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>>381096279
those rolex watches on fidel and che were all stolen from people they killed

go back to sucking fidel's and lenin's mummified corpses dick, you piece of trash

>>381096831
>anarchists
>lefties
lol what? how are social programs and wealth redistribution possible without a central government?

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>>381091768
Kaz sounds like a prepubescent girl.

>>381097229
>Fighting for those weak and poor who are exploited by others isn't wrong
jej sure he valued human life a lot

it works exactly like Leonardo Dicaprio who says we gotta stop emissions and shit, he does that during the pauses between participating in orgies in his yacht, left wingers are deeply hypocritical, they talk high and mighty about helping the poor, but it's never with their own money/effort of course

>>381097059
>pro abortion
Only for jewish women, it was told that the duty of women was to bear as many children they could, passing laws as the Law for the Encouragement of Marriage or giving away medals as a bonus (Ehrenzeichen der Deutschen Mutter)
>Pro euthanasia
The victims were killed without their consent in almost all cases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_T4
>Pro gun control
Stripping of gun rights ownership ONLY TO JEWS

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>>381098126
>just jews
and political opponents, or you think the opposition had access to weapons?

He wanted guns in the hands of allies/nazi party EXACTLY like communists do. They're not anti gun, just all for having all the guns for themselves.

Just like communists, nazis don't value human life at all, both are pro euthanasia to desensitize the population to the idea of killing. Here, the guy costs too much let's off him. This happens in left wing infested Netherlands today, and left wing infested Europe the notion of euthanasia is pushed big time. Same eugenics shit with a facade of piety. We're just killing people for their own good, of course.

>but wait, nazis killed communists!!
Big fucking deal. Stalin had Trotsky killed, and he purged a fair share of communists when he was in power. Revolutionaries kill revolutionaries just like that.

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>>381098126
also let's not forget, the founder of Planned Parenthood, an eugenics front that is predominantly in black neighborhoods, and is financially and openly supported by leftists, Margaret Sainger, was a nazi party enthusiast

>>381098751
>Planned Parenthood
that shit literally kills millions on white people every year, far more than black people

>>381097785
>left wingers
I never said anything resembling left wing or right wing. Can you stop projecting for a moment or is this tripe all you have to say?

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>>381099481
most PP butcheries are in black neighborhoods, it's eugenics pure and simple

abortion as a whole is often a front for eugenics, as Dawkins was nice enough to admit this nasty truth

>>381099674
But I am making comparisons, DiCaprio is a left winger, defends liberal agendas nonstop and of course so was Che Guevara, the freedom fighter, "humanist" who liked to take lives and fought to implement a brutal communist dictatorship, what a brave and noble human being.

You know, they called Stalin a humanist too.

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>>381099481
we are on video game board on an anime site and the thread we are are is about che guevara
and you are arguing about abortion

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>People actually take this at face value and don't understand that Big Boss, the main villain of Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2 is idolizing a terrorist.

>>381100006
I'm linking communism and nazism for their pro-abortion position, PP is openly supported by the left, and its founder was a nazi enthusiast. follow the reply chain at least

>>381092448

they would so hate each other lol


Che was a sadistic cunt, and Big Boss towards the end become full autistic about his soldier state.

>>381091768
Che literally did nothing wrong, all those people he killed were justified in order to free the latino people from the CIA puppet dictators

>>381100006

What a world we live in.

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>>381099967
>Dicaprio is a left winger
Why should I care.
>So was Che Guevara
did he ever say he was?
>freedom fighter "humanist who liked to take lives
>Liked to take lives
Where are you getting this.
>fought to implement a brutal communist dictatorship
He fought for what he thought was right, for what he thought was better than the status quo.
>they called Stalin a humanist too
I never cared nor said anything about a stupid label such as a humanist. Can you stop putting words in my mouth for 2 seconds or is this all you have?

>>381100204
some people just skipped the NES games and assumed that Big Boss dindu nuffin wrong and he was killed by the evul U.S government as well

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>>381100209
>being this much of a tin foil faggot
Give /pol/ a rest son.

>>381100352
>NES games
You mean the MSX.
Kojima hated the NES.

>>381100209
>communism and nazism are the same due to abortion
Are you insane or do you just like to pretend to be?

>>381100259
>ordered his men to slaughter nuns
Yeah real fucking hero he was

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>>381100543
y-ye anon

I goofed

>>381097357
It's not. Anarcho-communists are the biggest meme ever, a total contradiction. People who support it should be laughed at and violently silenced.

>>381092448
>forgetting that he's supposed to be the bad guy
Now that Metal Gear is done, I think you could make a decent argument that Big Boss did literally nothing wrong and it was all information manipulation.

>>381101240
ye

everything wrong in MGverse was done by the Philosophers/Patriots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgrUwRXTeGU

>>381100301
Follow the replies, one anon says that Che was so mighty and fought for the poor, a laughable notion to anyone who read like five lines about who Che was.
>a communist is not a left winger
is that your argument?
Also I guess going out and murdering people because I don't like how things are is justified in your book. Would be okay if I shot some politicians because I don't like their world views? That's pretty much what Guevara did. Never heard that road to hell is paved with good intentions?

>>381100401
>muh /pol/ boogeyman

>>381100647
and euthanasia, and gun control, and centralized government that leads to dictatorship, and to pretend they represented the workers (ie National Socialist Workers Party), called themselves socialists, and the list goes on.

anyone defending Che should kill himself proper. Any Marxism is a shit ideology and it fucked south america

t. Argiefag

>>381104756
preach, hermano

>>381104756
>marxism fucked south america
>not the banana wars, CIA or the fascist dictatorships
Really makes you think

>>381105838
t. ignoramus
try living in Venezuela or Cuba if you like socialism so much, fag

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>>381092448
oh ye that guy was autism incarnated

> " Venezuela is the spotlight to this fight, with a democratically-elected Socialist president fighting against media manipulation, CIA-sponsored terrorism, wealthy oligarchs loyal to US interests and constant “student” protests from highly organized criminal and mercenary groups with US backing which disrupt daily life and cause enormous damage to public property, not to mention Venezuela’s image at a worldwide level. It is now common to associate Venezuela with a dictatorship due to the strong media manipulation. If a lie is told often enough, it becomes truth."

> "utin, mind you, is regarded by many as the most powerful enemy of the post-Cold War New World Order for a reason, and that’s why third world nations see him as an ally. It’s not strange that Lukashenko and Putin are described as ruthless dictators by the West in spite of having being reelected numerous times, constantly vilified and subjected to smear campaigns in the West merely because they do not vow down to the US and NATO."

tl;dr: "the West hates him so he's a cool guy"

>>381104756
Hello my white friend. You must be very young if you think the USA shitting all over the region during the Cold War didn't play a part. The problem is by saying something like that people would be quick to paint me as some sort of commie because all you niggas can't take a step back from your political stance to take a good look at history.

>>381105838
>marxist
>fascist dictatorship

Same thing.
Also, do you really think communism and capitalism aren't really different faces of the same coin?
They need each other to survive, because they aren't enemies, they work together to maintain a world order against possible 3rd place oppositions.

Communism literally hasn't been tried yet.

>>381092321
I bet that all metal gear run a temple os.

>>381106701
>muh USA
>ignores the actions of the KGB that took place in South America
>ignores the links between KGB and the FARC which is communist terrorist organization that pillages villages and kills people, kidnaps others, kidnaps boys and girls to put on their ranks even today
>ignores the negative influence of Cuba in all LA countries, including funding terrorists groups

just give up, you have zero knowledge of what marxists did in Latin America, or what they caused in Africa, in the Congo and whatnot

>>381106932
China, Korea, URSS, Cuba, a big chunk of Europe.

>but that wasn't REAL communism!
Yeah, whatever.

>>381106932
ITT. middleschool children

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>>381106701
I for one think Uncle Sam. did a great job at fucking up the region, WITH Ivan helping in a great deal.

Che Guevara was a trigger-happy cunt.
Don't really see why can't people just accept that there were no good guys in that conflict.

>>381107205
>Don't really see why can't people just accept that there were no good guys in that conflict.

This is the main problem with politics and history in general. People just pick a side and fight the enemy side mindlessly.

It's like console wars. Except in politics, being an idort isn't an option, because they all suck and there's no good guys whatsoever.

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>>381091768
could Kojimbo make a game based on The Epic of the Helicopterman as well

yiu do not like gabitalism? u sboiled ritch gid :DDDD

>>381106701
The whole place had been a successful colony for most of its lifetime, the US asserting bases and control over the area was hardly as invasive as the colonial powers were. It was nothing more than a putsch with the savages in the military exploiting people for their own gain and falling under marxist leadership for soviet support and some attempt at legitimacy. It was propagandized and it's suspected the facts are so horrific in terms of civilian death counts that they are supressed to avoid international embarassment. This kind of apologism is the worst kind of cancer.

>>381107628
Nah the USA has always been a cancerous leech.
But that's not to say leftist parties and guerrilla in south america isn't also cancer.

>>381106868
>Did you know that water and cancer are really two sides of the same coin?
This is how dumb you sound

>>381108234
If we're talking capitalism and communism, it's just cancer and cancer. Where do you see the water? Unless you mean poisonous water, then yeah.

>>381106181
Rather live in venezuela than working in a banana plantation enforced by the CIA and fascist military

>>381108840
>I would rather starve to death
Okay

Communism is the deepest pit of degeneracy someone can fall into.

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>>381091768

>>381101240
Only if you're overwhelmingly unobservant. The Patriots being awful doesn't erase Big Boss's awfulness.

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>tfw no full MGS comic by Shinkawa
jdimsa

>>381100647
He never said that you dumbshit.

>>381091768
Nah, he was a fag and also not white

>>381113392
He was American Hispanic wh*te

>>381094463
That was just him being edgy

>>381097357
they were and they ruined Paris

>>381092779
>>champagne socialist upper middle classer in comfy western country falls for el Che was a hero meme
Oh yeah those low class latin americans and africans, A BUNCH OF CHAMPAGNE SOCIALIST MIDDLE CLASSERS

ahahaha, retarded burger
>racist

Oh it's this meme again. Then you want to convice people burgers aren't ignorant
>>381094229
Things that literally never happened.

>>381100706
He never ordered to any nun to be killed, see how easily it is to brainwash dumb americans?

The only people killed were traitors, imperialist CIA dicksuckers and pedophiles.

>>381111685
Shinkawa is making a living by being Kojima personal artist. No need for him to work on a full flesh comic, it's a shame really.

>>381115512
> The only people killed were traitors, imperialist CIA dicksuckers and pedophiles.

and he calls others brainwashed

>>381116548
everytime

Big Boss stopped being a hero the moment he tried to create an endless war and create a cycle where children are trained to fight in the next war over and over and over for no reason other than "It gets me hard".

Latin America in the 90s was basically the rush to colonize Africa in the late 1800s. Both American and Soviets don't give a fuck about human life and want puppet governments. Now that soviets gone nobody cares about the region besides the oil fields in some countries.

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>>381115512
the stages of whitewashing

> "he was a literal saint!"
> "he was a hero!"
> "all lies, he never killed anyone!"
> "he only killed terrible people, who deserved it anyway!"
> "h-he had to kill some, there was no other way!"
> "okay, but he wasn't any worse than the one he fought!"

>>381106701

Go scuba dive the deep ocean faggot.

>>381094463

commies literally btfo

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>>381091768
wasnt chie bisexual or someshit?

>>381091892
That picture is actually proven to be fake.

>>381121026
You see Tyrone, our enemies are always degenerate bisexual piss drinking lunatics with one testicle.

>>381092884
you're a big boss

>>381091892
So that's why Bolivia is such a great place to live...really makes one think.

>>381115512
And their families, Cubans that simply opposed him, and anyone that got in the way of his murderous warlord path. You're actually praising the mohammad of the 20th century, fucking communists these days.

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>>381091768
Che hated niggers and homos. /pol/ should love him.