I want to drink milkshake with him :3

I think you mean cumshake

>>381081332
>sharing a drink with a natzee
That's a gulag sentence for you, comrade

>>381081362
I'll drink your cumshake

>>381081332
Is it me, or the map looks EXACTLY like it has been taken from Falloyut 4? Is Bethesda recycling old game assets, like Ubisoft?

>>381081362
Even better

Porn of BJ and Doomguy molesting Commander Keen when?

>>381081332
>high ranking nazi enters the scene
>he's obviously nice and caring until he notices something's wrong and kills you

I, too, have watched Inglourious Basterds

>le retro aesthetic

I hate it

how many times can they milk that fallout crap

Le Edgelord wacky nazi.

>liberals want to show that monocultural society is bad
>its always portrayed as utopia
>anything muticultural is portrayed as a third world shithole but least everyone is quirky and free XD

am i too white to understand? id sell all this """"freedom"""" for conformity in an instant

>>381081332
That eagle is off center on his hat.

>>381082215
They're right wing through and through

>>381082091
SMT does it better.

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>>381081332
/fa/ would fucking cum in their one and only $250 pair of skinny jeans checking this guy out.

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One milkshake coming right up

>/pol/ fell for benevolent invaders meme
So you support NORKs from Homofront and ayylmaos from NuCOM?

>>381081887
B-B-BUT THEY SAY MEAN THINGS!!!

>>381081695
That's incest.

The Nazis can never be forgiven for their crimes against Jimi Hendrix

>>381081887
Utopias are fairy tales. Real humans are too shitty to build one, no matter how many of them you exterminate. Deep down, we're all animals.

>>381081887
TNO was the same way with the Nazis generally being pretty alright and the "good guys" constantly fucking shit up. Among other things, you bomb an office building and a civilian bridge on the scale of the Golden Gate, break into innocent people's houses and destroy their shit, and release a fuckload of violent inmates.

>>381081332
Milkshakes from a slurpee cup.

?????????????????????
I mean it's the 60's man.

>game wants you to hate the enemy
>make the villains cool
>makes all the resistance members boring and unlikeable
What gives?

>>381081332
>got to the moon in 1951
>by 1960 they already have a base in the moon
>still carry around radios the size of a bag

>>381082334
All I see is a rejected cultural concept for a faction in Fallout.

>>381083062
>you're the nazi, bj
>and BJ was the nazi

>>381083121
racist

>>381081887
Just because your only contact with society is Tumblr and screencaps of SJWs from Twitter doesn't mean all women are landwhales.
Then again, no one with politics in mind has any idea how the world really is.

>>381083073
>Golan Gate bridge
Even BJ was shocked. I assumed that it was a moment of clarify among the brain damage.

>>381082867
Time travelling incest

>>381081887
> it would be a fucking Utopia.
No, it wouldn't, it would have followed the same path as western civilization.
Utopia means no conflict, in a perfect society all you do is go to work, earn money, and mantain your family.
This would eventually get people bored, as us, because of no conflict, and making people wonder why they even exist, so they would start nitpicking the shit out of everything in an attempt to find something to fight for, a purpose.

You know why in the 50's everything was an utopia?
Because they had the communists, they had a common foe.
Utopias have no such thing.

>>381083156
lefties can't write for shit, what else is new

>>381081332
>Smartly dressed
>Charming
>Charismatic
>Friendly

>Meanwhile we have to hang out with SHIIIIIEEEEEET IT A WHITE BOI I SEE, SCARED OF DYING, WHITEY?

>>381083213
I'm talking about TNO, shitposter.
But it would surprise me if it is the same here.

>>381083359
Videogame writers can't write for shit.
Storytelling in videogames is a fucking joke.

>>381083374
>Charming
>Charismatic
It's amazing the things people see when they really want to see something.

>>381083404
the girl is jewish you racist

>>381083062
Found the (((merchant)))

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>>381083359
>>381083415
how are you taking a game where nazis invade the world and the moon with ancient jew technology seriously
they're supposed to look retro-futuristic and big ass radio backpacks are pretty iconic of world war 2 soldiers

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This fucking thread man...

>>381083549
The fact that this guy is considered a good writer by the videogame industry just proves me right.
Videogames will never amount to having anything but some Marvel capeshit-tier story.

>>381083121
>>381082091
This, it's weird how lefties always portray right-wing fascist societies as a near utopia. Maybe they have tendencies they're fighting?

>Starship Troopers portrays Earth as a wonderful place under fascism
>Man in the High Castle portrays America as a wonderful place under fascism
>Wolfenstein

>>381083549
he's not the only terrible writer in the industry, don't single him out

>>381083358
Utopia has no connotations of peace, not necessarily. It simply means perfection. That most people's definition would include peace has no bearing on the definition of the term itself.

Why are videogame writers so bad at writing good resistance groups?
Its the same in the game Resistance; I would rather rat out the annoying shitheads rather than fight for them the longer you play the game.

>>381083486
More amazing is the things people will ignore because they're incapable of seeing something.

>>381083637
>perfection
So they are absolute fiction.

>>381083563
You picked the completely wrong image, r/socialism visitor.

>>381083062
New Zealand and Poland would like a word with you.

>>381083643
>Why are videogame writers so bad at writing?
Fixed.

And the answer to that is because their only experience with literature is reading Chris-chan's Sonichu comics.

>>381081887
if a white-only world is a utopia why were they all warring constantly in europe up until the invention of the atomic bomb

>>381083621
>>Man in the High Castle
I legitimately do not get how that's supposed to be leftist. I had an extremely leftist professor (or at least, leftist by normie standards; he's not Tumblr-tier) who liked to gush about it because of how much it freaked him out to see Nazis as good guys.

>>381083709
>Poland
>utopia

>>381083709
Poland is borderline third world.
Only good thing about that place is that they actively push sandniggers out.

>>381083073
Didn't the nazis like shoot-up a hospital in the very beginning?

i know im gonna get a snarky reply like >"le killing disables being bad" or some shit so i dont know why i even try

>>381083621
The writer of SST actually intended to write a utopian society to his ideals, the movie was mocking the work it was based on.

>>381083563
>Stalin killed less than Hitler

Isn't that literally incorrect?

>>381081887
>And here we are in fucking reality, a nigger just fucking stole my north face jacket I had delivered to my house last Friday, what the fuck man.

Kek, sorry to hear that man.

>>381081887
He didn't pay for the milkshake.
He's using his political infuence to avoid the payment.

>the nazis takeover the world by using technology made by a world spanning secret cabal of jews
Oi vey! Shut it down, BJ!

>>381083621
>>Starship Troopers portrays Earth as a wonderful place under fascism
You're literally stupid.

>>381084040
Isn't that literally a violation of NAP?

>>381084040
Real US soldiers don't pay shit for their food either, nice try though you liberal (((anon)))

>>381083739
Because war is fun and thins the herd. That's why people agitated for WW1 to happen.

Every race of humans wars. Only whites managed to invent global peace through technological advancement and treaties and the UN.

>>381084240
>UN
>Doing anything

>>381083940
I fully realize that anon, but Verhoven's mockery of a fascist society failed to go much further than an overweening justice/capital punishment system and letting kids play with guns. Starship Troopers' Earth as portrayed in the film looked like a genuinely nice place to live.

>>381084220
Not an argument.
>>381084341
True. War is fun.

>>381083739
The Jews started all of them, you dumb idiot. Noticed how Hitler called them all out for it and they stopped? It's not a coincidence.

>>381081887
Well, it won't be a utopia but at least you won't have a race war...there will be an infighting for sure though.

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>>381083890
>Being this misinformed

The (((chosen people))) have really done a great job these past few years altering the Internet's hivemind.

>>381084573
Oh yeah, we all know Poland is a superpower.
I'm sure they are about to start their own spaceprogram run only by potatoes.

>>381083062
Australia is a great place to live.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index#2016_Human_Development_Index

Saying a utopia is a fairy tale is narrow minded. We don't have the technology yet to make a utopia, true, but that doesn't mean it isn't possible in the far future.

>>381084350
>not understanding that asteroid was a false flag

>>381084573
>It's a utopia just because there's no terrorist attakcs
You've got some pretty low standards for a utopia.

>>381084705
>technology
Humanity needs leaders, and there's always some leaders that will go corrupt.
Not to mention that technology wise sometimes it feels like we are going backwards, like with space exploration, where aside from sending probes, we haven't done anything at all.

>>381084685
>Implying you have to be a superpower to qualify being near "Utopian" levels.

>>381084573
Poland is white and based.

GamerGate and the Reddit invasion following the 2016 elections is one of if not the worst thing to happen to 4chan. Can't even get hype about killing Nazis without some edgelord showing up and calling everyone a cuck.

No one had an issue with Wolfenstein doing what it does until all these faggots migrated here. The irony.

>>381084765
Do tell, how is Poland a utopia?
And I mean a utopia in the full sense of the word, not just "hey dude, there's no sandniggers".

>>381084762
Do you not read current world news and follow current world trends? Not having any terrorist attacks would make for a fucking solid base to build a Utopia foundation on.

>>381083709
NZ is pure shit m8

>>381084806
It's Europe, it's scum.
The only reason they pushed sandniggers out is because Polish are basically white niggers and chimped out at them, instead of not letting them get in in the first place.

>>381084573
> all that dots on ukraine
Excuse me, what?

>>381081332
You really can't blame BJ, he just wants to remove foreigner invaders and oppression, not to destroy the utopia.
He wants a society like that with only difference being that someone isn't pointing gun at them and throwing them in to oven.
Too bad that he hasn't seen our timeline.

>>381084842
>a fucking solid base to build a Utopia foundation on.
In the same sense as having 1 square mile of flat land is a solid foundation to build a space rocket launch site.

>>381083709
>New Zealand
>utopia
also we're full of chinese and indian immigrants, and they haven't made the country any worse

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>>381084812

>Redditfags are the ones who are pro-nazi

No.

>>381084869
Friendly reminder that the US is soon gonna be 50%+ nonwhite :^)

>>381084883
Freedom fighting is terrorism, unless it's backed by US and EU.

>>381081332
Why do people support nazis in here?
The thing about Hitler is that he wanted each people to have pride in themselves and celebrate their own cultures, but ensuring they stayed alive by not mixing them.
Nazis in here just removed all nations made the entire planet Germany.

>>381084963

Yes.

>>381084240
even if you think war is fun, utopian societies do not go to war

>>381084972
I know, USA will get what's coming to them too.
Western civilization has grown weak and corrupt.
It has to die so something else can be reborn, better, hopefully.

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>>381084762

t. German cuckold

Hope you enjoy Mutti Merkel's paradise.

>>381084995
I'm trying to decipher your retarded ranting, so bear with me.
How did "we" remove all nations?

>>381084240
>Only whites managed to invent global peace through technological advancement and treaties and the UN.
No, what led to global peace is nuclear deterrence.

>>381085083
I'm talking about Wolfenstein.
You even have those nazi soldiers asking others how their class of German is going.
That's not what Hitler wanted, in this case, those nazis are just average invaders, no different than muslims, just with better looking clothes.

>>381085112
>technological advancement
>nukes aren't technological advancements
Alright anon, time for your medicine.

>>381085079
What point do you think I was trying to make?

>>381084995
>each people to have pride in themselves and celebrate their own cultures
>ensuring they stayed alive
Tell that to the jews. Or slavs.

>>381085175
Yes, one specific technological advancement, nukes.
The UN didn't do shit, the UN could be removed and nothing would change in the entire planet.

>>381084995
>The thing about Hitler is that he wanted each people to have pride in themselves and celebrate their own cultures
where do you guys get that stupid shit from

>>381085212
Jews should have thought twice about sparking the German communist revolution right after WWI, or about trying to push their propaganda through the media, which they completely owned.
No idea about why he hated slavs, though.

>>381085173
Hitler didn't want people talking german?

>>381085048
This desu. It seems that whites will inevitably turn into spoiled cucks after having lived in peace & wealth for a while. Hopefully chinks or someone else will pick up the mantle.

>>381085287
He wasn't interested in making the entire planet Germany.
Although he went full retard by declaring war to USA and USSR.
Like WWI, it was a clusterfuck of things leading to others.

>>381085360
Chinks won't do anything for other countries, they simply use them explicitely for their own benefit.
Even Africans know China is only improving their infrastructures because they want to put them all to work in factories and make Africa replace China as the factory of the world.

>>381085368
>He wasn't interested in making the entire planet Germany.
How do you know? His interest was in ensuring the survival of the white race, if that requires you to take over the entire world and eradicate all threats - I don't see why he wouldn't go that "far".

>Although he went full retard by declaring war to USA and USSR.
Oh I see. You're retarded.

>>381085274
/pol/ infographics, the only reliable source of information on the internet that hasn't been infiltrated by zionism

>>381085474
>if that requires you to take over the entire world and eradicate all threats - I don't see why he wouldn't go that "far".
Because one country doesn't have the capabilities to invade the entire planet.

>Oh I see. You're retarded.
Why?
He had no reason to declare the war to USA, and he should have known that invading Russia was a retarded idea.

>>381085506
Show me this infograph.

>>381084742
Prove it.
>>381084763
>Humanity needs leaders, and there's always some leaders that will go corrupt
Technological advances can solve that too, with advances in the efficiency of polygraphs. Put potential rulers under said polygraph and ask them whether they're taking bribes.

>>381085569
>Technological advances can solve that too, with advances in the efficiency of polygraphs
What about when things become so corrupt that it doesn't matter if they get caught, like right now?

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>>381085280
>sparking the German communist revolution right after WWI
What sparking it was a long, hard and useless war that was lost.

>>381085506
oh I see

>>381085569
Asteroids can't into FTL.

>>381081561
every developer does this, its inefficient to make all brand new assets for every game

>>381085650
>What sparking it was a long, hard and useless war that was lost.
Yes, they lost the war, and of course, what the country needed right after that, was plunging into a civil war.

>>381084573
Redpill me on the attacks in northern spain

>>381081561
It's set in the 1960s/50s, no shit it looks like Fallout

>>381085738
Well no, they should've stuck with the idiot Kaizer who plunged them into that mayhem. Just grin and beat it as the loyal subjects they should've been.

>>381083986
it is
the thing is, pointing out that stalin killed more doesn't justify hitler's actions

>>381085539
>Because one country doesn't have the capabilities to invade the entire planet.
Incorrect.

>He had no reason to declare the war to USA and Russia
Russia was lining up their forces along the german border, Hitler made the first strike since it was the only logical move - it would've worked too if his commanders weren't retards and went for the traditional brute-force tactic.

I actually forget the reasoning for declaring war with USA, as far as I recall it was due to another Axis power declaring war first.

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>>381085217
The entire point of the UN is for a neutral ground so that the world's leading powers can sit and talk.

Is there a WW3 happening? No? Then the UN is doing its job.

Everything else from feeding starving niggers to human rights shit is just side work they do whenever there isn't a crisis going on, nowhere is stated that they're obligated to give a shit about the rest of the world.

>>381085650
>I can accept that the alien species can shoot enormous glowing rocks out of its own ass and into orbit
>but I can't accept that said glowing rocks can travel ftl
Come the fuck on.

Additionally:
>In the book the bugs have advanced technology, it just isn't shown in the movie but it's all there in the manual
>the rock didn't necessarily come from Klendathu, it may have come from a planet closer to Earth, as the bugs have learned space travel
Zero proof it wasn't the bugs.

>>381083928
Fag

>>381085835
How does it not?
Also, how many did Hitler kill?

>>381085836
>Russia was lining up their forces along the german border
Wrong. Stop reading fantasy shit like icebreaker.

>>381085786
Spain here.
They all from a far left terrorist band that was born back when we were in Franco's rule.
Although after he died and a democracy was ruled, they had literally no reason to keep existing, they kept calling whoever was in charge of the country a fascist and kept killing for no reason.
They also started pushing the idea of making a northern province go independant.
Over the last 2 decades, they got hit hard one time after another and now their entire infraestructure is pretty much gone, and literally nobody gives a shit about them or anything they fought for anymore, so they just diluted and vanished.

>>381084573
I haven't heard about any of those attacks that supposedly occurred in my country

Also, northern Ireland and the UK? Does this go back all the way to the Troubles?

>>381085836
>Incorrect.
If there's one, it's either China or USA.
Not WWII Germany.
If they had, they wouldn't have lost WWII.

>>381083928
People with disabilities being allowed to live means a drain on society, those people living in pain, and if they're allowed to breed, then their disabilities affecting future generations who share their pain too.

>>381085971
Show me your source then.

>>381085738
>Yes, they lost the war, and of course, what the country needed right after that, was plunging into a civil war.

But then how all the generals who started and lost that useless war for no reason other than feeling that other nations don't respect them enough would have managed to avoid responsibility? Do you seriously advocating a proper German commander owning up to the results of his actions, instead of finding a convenient scapegoat at the small, small cost of a civil war?

>>381085951
>>381086049
thanks for proving my point

>>381085917
>Is there a WW3 happening? No? Then the
Then the nukes are doing their job, which is assuring mutual destruction.

>>381086039
>le good guys wouldn't lose xDD
You honestly think it's completely impossible in some future that 1 single nation have either taken over or destroyed all others?

>>381086081
I think telling them to fuck off for losing the war is fine.
But inmediatly plunging into communism?
No.

Then again, seeing what's happening now, completely wiping out Germany would have been the better choice.

>>381085941
>alien species can shoot enormous glowing rocks out of its own ass and into orbit
They don't shoot rocks, they shoot plasma, and it's not very fast.
>In the book
Irrelevant.

>>381086147
By the time one country has so much power, I think we will already be colonizing other planets.
But I was talking about 30's and 40's Germany.

>>381085968
Depends on how you look at it. One could argue that Hitler did kill more since he was the head of state and government in the country that was a direct cause for the second world war breaking out.

>>381085856
Kill yourself

>>381086093
I didn't give you a snarky reply, and your point is meaningless and not an argument.
From a utilitarian perspective, eugenics causes suffering short-term but prevents countless lifetimes' worth of suffering long-term.

Objectively.

>>381086051
>Show me your source then.

Look, you paint-huffing retard, even German generals (just for one example, Mannstein) deny any sort of "massing Russian troops" in their memoirs, so his source is literally the sum total of knowledge on the question, in all possible forms from books to videos.

>>381086093
No problem, retard.

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>>381086094
MAD theory is garbage, without an international court countries would've used nukes on those without it years ago.

>but the other countries

Wouldn't care if Kazakhstan got buttfucked by Russia right now if we didn't have any sort of international law

But Russia and other countries don't, because you can gain much more with much less sacrifice by going to the UN and getting your EEZ increased by a few hundred meters or whatever special privileges you want.

>>381086439
I think their ideas are okay, but I don't respect them.
They lost a war, they were weak.

>>381086264
Yes, a germany that thought on multiple fronts against multiple nations - after recovering from a completely shattered economy managed to almost break them all at once.

This attempt at belittling Hitler's germany is getting tiresome.

>>381086338
Show me the sources then.
It shouldn't be hard, but of course - chances of them being forged is quite high.

>>381086338
don't bother trying to argue with /pol/tards, they dismiss everything outside of their own fantasy as jewish conspiracy

>>381086319
>One could argue that Hitler did kill more
I'd honestly like to see you try.
>Hitler was the cause for WWII
lol.

>>381086486
>almost breaking them all at once
They only won against countries that were recovering much slowly from WWI.
The moment Russia and USA stepped in they started getting destroyed left and right.
Hell, USA undid everything Germany did on western Europe and north Africa for 6 years in only 8 months.

>>381086480
>They lost a war, they were weak.
no country is strong enough to take on the entire world and win

>>381081332
I want to kill him by jamming that milkshake, cup and all, down his throat before I crush his skull with a boot stomp that would make Captain Titus proud.

Not so much because he is a Nazi, but more so because I am a psychopath.

>>381086480
Literally no nation could have won a war against almost the entire world. Germany lasting as long as it did is already pretty amazing.

>>381086615
>>381086637
Hitler should have thought twice before dooming his entire country and ideology, then.

>>381086486
>Look up this memoir of one of the best-known German generals just as one example
>S-s-s-show me the sources, m-m-m-must be forged...

Are you intentionally trying to lose the argument, or just being that retarded?

Then again, this question regularly arises in anyone studying the actual Nazi regime, so like is attracted to like, I suppose.

>>381086697
don't tell /pol/ but Hitler didn't care about his country

>>381086589
Russia was a tactical error of trying brute-force tactics - and the honor goes ultimately to Russia's climate rather than their fighting force.
>USA saved europe
By the time they came to reap the honor there wasn't much left to fight, the loss on the eastern front was too crippling.

>Hell, USA undid everything Germany did on western Europe and north Africa for 6 years in only 8 months.
What is the point of this? What did germany do for 6 years exactly?

>>381086209
>Aliens can do X but can't do Y because I say so
Even if you completely ignore the book and sequels to suit your argument, in the movie itself Rico's teacher tells him that the bugs launch rocks into space to colonize other planets, and we literally see them being capable of hurling extremely large objects into space.

The rock wouldn't even need to be travelling at lightspeed, it may have simply been hurled by the bugs hundreds of thousands of years earlier as they throw shit out towards other planets to colonize them.

>>381086821
>What is the point of this? What did germany do for 6 years exactly?
Take over all of western Europe, north Africa, and fortify it?

>>381086335
>Killing doctors and nurses is eugenics
>Killing a baby for having a club foot and his mom for objecting is beneficial on the long term

Mmmmmh

>>381086575
Well, he did invade Poland, knowing full-well that it would lead to war with France and the UK. He also invaded the Soviet Union despite having signed a non-aggression pact with them a few years earlier.

>>381086735
I want him to link me the paragraph he's talking about, how hard is this to understand?

>>381086335
Allowing only some people to breed is eugenics, killing people because they are disabled isn't.

>>381086697
Well you're right. Hitler was a retard when it came to foreign diplomacy.

If he would have been smart he would have waited for Stalin to fuck up and then get western support against the Soviets.

>>381087000
>he did invade Poland
After numerous attempts at communicating with them and being ignored.

>He also invaded the Soviet Union despite having signed a non-aggression pact with them a few years earlier.
By employing a first-strike concept since war was already brewing and both sides knew this.

>>381087126
do you declare war on everyone who doesn't talk to you?

>>381087056
>killing people because they are disabled isn't.
How so?
Literally ridding the species of faulty genetics is at its heart eugenics.

>>381087126
>After numerous attempts at communicating with them and being ignored.
Oh yeah, then it's totally Poland's fault. How rude.

>>381086439
https://twitter.com/sam_kriss/status/874019528925171712

>>381086486
>Yes, a germany that thought on multiple fronts against multiple nations - after recovering from a completely shattered economy managed to almost break them all at once.

There was not a faintest change of Germany "breaking" its opponents, particularly "all at once". US alone could have reduced Germany to glowing ash, without any possibility of Germans being able to do anything meaningful about it (even before nukes, IRL there was not a single month past spring of 1943 in which Luftwaffe managed to as much as stop the bomb tonnage dropping on Germany monthly from growing, Eastern Front past August of 1943 basically contributed peanuts to the air battle, and expansion of Luftwaffe was hard capped by fuel availability), so Hanses quite literally have to thank Soviets for kicking shit out of them through conventional means.

>>381087171
If I want something from someone and they ignore me and purposefully destroy what I cherish while doing so - yes, I will remove them.

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>>381086892
>>Killing doctors and nurses is eugenics
People get in the way of the law, you shoot them. It's completely insignificant in terms of the long-term benefit to society.
>>Killing a baby for having a club foot and his mom for objecting is beneficial on the long term
Yep. Think of how life-ruining it would be to have pic related for the entirety of your life. Then multiply that by a few million humans.

It's objectively the long-term greater good. Doesn't matter if you don't like the sound of it.

>>381087192
by not letting them breed, not outright killing them

>>381087265
Dead people don't breed

>>381087265
That's just your feelsies talking though.

>>381087232
Nothing but Trump's loyalty to Israel put him in the White House.

>>381087261
>poland destroying anything of germanys
yeah and saddam had weapons of mass destruction too

>>381087126
>>381087126
You're still not arguing for how he was not the direct cause for the war breaking out. You're defending his actions, yes, but you're not actually providing any arguments for how the Nazi regime is not to blame for the war breaking out.

Poland had absolutely no obligations to surrender Danzig to the Germans, especially after Germany had agreed to partition Poland with the Soviet Union. And yes, war might have broken out between Germany and the Soviet Union eventually but he was still the one who invaded first, he was the aggressor.

>>381081362
I'd drink his cumshake. Where else would you find such perfect genes?

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>>381086486
>a germany that thought on multiple fronts against multiple nations - after recovering from a completely shattered economy managed to almost break them all at once.

Been there, done that.

And the krauts lasted less than a decade, Sad!

>>381087339
Why do people like you imply that feelings are a bad thing? They're important evolutionary mechanics that helped us survive and succeed. Not having basic human emotions doesn't make you a superman, it makes you a sociopath. A sick person. Ironically, in your perfect society that would mark you as a prime target for extermination.

>>381087126
Hitler going full retard over Danzig was his fatal mistake.

>humanity's current state
>people still think one race alone could save it
The entire thing is completely fucked and doomed, and it's the fault of a very diverse and multicultural group of absolute retards.

>>381087492
The Nazis would have great use for sociopaths, though.

>>381087404
>he was the aggressor.
>ignoring everything and boiling it down to who struck first
Sure, we can agree if we ignore everything that led up to it.
Me destroying your garden has nothing to do with you punching me in the face - you're the aggressor.

>>381087261
>need to borrow some flour from neighbour
>go to your neighbours door
>knock
nothing
>knock again
nothing
>knock for the third time
still nothing
>proceed to break into their house, fuck up their shit and steal all the flour

???

>>381087569
What did the Soviet Union do that was so bad, then? That eventually forced Hitler's hand?

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I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE

>>381087492
Having feelings isn't a bad thing. Letting feelings get in the way of logic is.

You think suffering is bad. That is what motivates your beliefs.
In order to prevent one person's short period of suffering in death with a quick death, you would have them subjected to prolonged suffering for their whole life. As well as being a cost to society, which creates greater suffering for others.

And if they somehow manage to breed, then they pass on their faulty genes causing generation after generation. Because you didn't want them to suffer for a brief moment because you think suffering is bad, you consign them, and their descendants, to even more suffering.

That's an illogical position to hold.

>>381087339
Every ideal and ideology is just feels.

>>381087620
they were occupied by an inferior race

>>381087019
>I have the right to demand links and exact paragraphs whenever anyone contradicts me because reading and using Google is hard, what, do you expect me to hold myself to the same standard?

Naziboos are nothing if not predictable.

>>381087698
I ain't reading through massive amounts of texts only to conclude that it was never mentioned just because you spout a random name.
Now give me the memoir date and back up your claim, fag.

>>381087569
But the Soviets didn't provoke Germany at all.

>>381087263
>break the law
>get killed

You'll be a psycho if you weren't 12 and baiting.

>>381087675
So?
Some ideals/ideologies are objectively better than others, just because you "feel" something doesn't make it right.

>>381087670
You're trying to apply logic to a fundamentally illogical situation. How do you objectively measure quality of life? Can people not have moments of happiness even if their overall life is bleak? What makes life worth it? What makes death justifiable? You can't just logic your way out of those questions.

>>381087620
>>381087782
>Why is your entire army parked at my border?
>Privyet comrade, just ignore it :^)

>>381087670
Not that anon, but it's not illogical if you value freedom of people as sovereign beings.
Suffering is bad, but not having freedom to suffer if you so choose is worse.

>>381087550
That isn't really a pro-Nazi argument.

>>381087670
Your logical conclusions come from a premise of an individual life holding very little value. That's not really a premise that's held commonly, and I seriously doubt it's a premise that a healthy and stable society could be built on today.

We're getting pretty good at genetic engineering stuff, btw. Give it some time and genetic defects would be fixable.

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>>381081332
Will it ever be possible to have a thread about this fucking game without it turning into /pol/ related shit

>>381087875
>You can't just logic your way out of those questions.
Fucking watch me.
When the survival of this individual is dependent on someone else's resources you're in violation of the NAP and killing it is justified.

>>381087569
So what's the wehraboo excuse for occupying Czechoslovakia and turning it into a protectorate even though regions like Moravia contained very little german bohemians?

I'm genuinely curious about this.

>>381088006
If you believe in anarcho-capitalistic society, then you're right.

>>381087919
but they weren't, the soviets were taken by surprise

>>381088068
This. What did Hitler mean by this?

>>381088006
The funny part is that ancaps LITERALLY believe in this.

>>381086406
>reddit is bad maymay

>>381088068
Bohemia is rightful German clay.

>>381087569
>Sure, we can agree if we ignore everything that led up to it.

If we don't ignore everything that led up to it then Germany is 200% wrong instead of 100% wrong, and Germans deserve much worse that what they got, as a whole nation of sociopaths, who interepreted anything less than licking their boots as a mortal insult when dealing with equals, mercy as intolerable cruelty when being at the mercy of others, and any peaceful intent or attempts at reconciliation as contemptible weakness. While steadfastly refusing to judge themselves by their own standards, always blaming others for their own inadequacies, and crying piteously at injustices done to them when left with too few teeth to bite.

>>381088075
>>381088140
There is actually truth to this.
When you have a welfare/socialist state, individuals unable to support themselves due to genetic deficiencies do in fact become a drain on society, and it is - regardless of your feelings - beneficial to rid society of these leeches.

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>>381081332
>you'll never share milkshakes and talk about the glory of fascism together

>>381088172
Großdeutschland must be grosser

>>381087919
I'm not arguing with the Soviet Union declaring war on Germany had it been given a few more years to build up its armies, but in 1941 the Soviet Union just wasn't fit to invade Germany. At least not fit enough for Stalin to confidently give the order.

And I still don't see how that's an excuse for Germany invading Poland, leading to another war with the French and English. Plus, they also declared war on the US.

>>381087875
>How do you objectively measure quality of life?
If every human life is worth X, then the suffering of 1,000,000 is more important than the choice of 1.

>>381087939
>if you so choose
But that's the thing, passing on your genetic defects robs other people of the ability to choose. Let's say you're literally retarded. You don't have the ability to make an informed choice as to whether you want to live or die. However, being an animal, you will try to breed. Thus inflicting this same retardation on future generations. Which is ALSO a cost to society in caring for and policing you.

Why not end it with a bullet?
>>381087942
>Your logical conclusions come from a premise of an individual life holding very little value
I didn't say an individual life holds very little value.

Let's say every single life holds a value of X. Therefore, upon applying that to my argument, my argument still works.

1,000,000 people > 1 person if every person's life has a value of X.
>We're getting pretty good at genetic engineering stuff, btw. Give it some time and genetic defects would be fixable.
We have a solution already-- a bullet.

>>381088068
The state was like 20 years old at that point, after it declared independence from the the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

As the other guy said, it's literally German clay.

>>381088006
What does NAP stand for again?

>>381087771
>Reading is hard
>I don't know who Mannstein is and what book he wrote

For fuck's sake, way to prove himself an uneducated retard, in addition to being a hypocrite.

>>381087942
>We're getting pretty good at genetic engineering stuff, btw. Give it some time and genetic defects would be fixable.
Nazis in Wolfenstein weren't. This is a discussion as to whether the Nazis in Wolfenstein were portrayed generally favourably, with justifiable actions.

>>381088469
Non Aggression Principle

>>381088436
What if X = ∞?

>>381088453
Did the people living in Czechoslovakia at the time want to be a part of Germany?

>>381082641

im german and the americans here are quite nice :)

>>381088436
>Let's say you're literally retarded
yes, if you're literally legally retarded, you can't legally make choices, thus all the choices you make are transported to your legal guardian or something

>>381088510
Right, so according to the non-aggression principle, when are all the times killing people is justified?

>>381087968
No.
This place is so far gone that it thinks making Nazis the bad guys is evidence of kowtowing to SJWs.
In their quest to stop SJWs from shoving their politics into everything, they're going to make absolutely everything about politics without even realizing they're as radical and annoying as the people they hate so much.

>>381083652
Stay woke my fellow kekistani

>>381088315
Those individuals are a part of society too. I'd say the distress they'll suffer from being (((removed))) is probably greater than the distress of paying a few dollars more per month as a part of your taxes.

>>381088436
See, you're trying to assign a value to an individual's life. You're the kind of person who thinks that the objectively correct solution to the trolley problem is to push the lever. Thinking that you can solve something like that with simple math says a lot about you, though.

>>381088501
Oh, I see.

>>381088489
Show me the fucking paragraph - or are you shills from the publishing firm?

>>381088561
Considering "Munich Betrayal" is a thing for Czechs, I'd say nobody told them they wuz germans 'n shieet

>>381088613
When your property, belongings or you yourself are disrupted in any way.

>>381088561
The part Germany annexed did.

Soviets took over the other part, and they all starved to death.

>>381082046
Bethesda will literally milk it until they go bankrupt. They've been trying to since Fallout 3 because le epic raypunk XD

>>381081332
You'll have to show your papers first though ;3

>>381081332

What I want to know is if Super Soviets are going to be a thing in this timeline.

>>381088719
Doesn't sound very non-agressive

>>381088542
The potential for X being infinity never stops algebraic equations from working the rest of the time. 2 instances of X is always going to be greater than 1 instance of X, even if X=∞.
>>381088656
>Thinking that you can solve something like that with simple math
The maths is just a way of putting forward the basic logical flaw. If your motivation for disliking eugenics is suffering, then eugenics, mathematically, prevents more suffering than it causes.

>>381088656
>I'd say the distress they'll suffer from being (((removed))) is probably greater than the distress of paying a few dollars more per month as a part of your taxes.
Now your feelsies are talking again.
You want to enact force against me so you can feel morally just about yourself.
If people want to keep dysfunctional people alive, they can do so out of their own pocket - but in a welfare society they are - still - a drain on society as a whole.

>>381088721
You're thinking of Poland, ya dingus.

>>381081332
Why wouldn't the devs come up with some new kind of uniforms so it fit the setting more? It just comes off weird having those same ones sa from WW2.

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>>381082046
>le retro aesthetic

you do know what year the game is set in right?

>>381088657
>How do I Google?
>How do I count to the fourth or fifth link from the top?
>Wehraboo still admitting to not reading one of, if not the most famous German WWII-related memoirs.

Please continue, even if you're just pretending to be retarded this is comedy gold.

>>381088891
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovakia

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>>381083940
Actually he made some very big criticisms of fascism in his story if you read deep into things, but they were intelligent criticisms made by someone who knew the bad parts of something because they enjoy the good parts enough to experience the worst of it.

The movie is an insult to this intelligent and highly admirable level of art and thinking due to it rendering a tasteful praise and criticism of fascism into the equivalent of a fart joke.

>>381088948
because this is surface-level fiction, so without the uniforms they aren't even nazis anymore

>>381088980
Not him, but at least use a tripcode so we can filter out your shitposting.

>>381088789
Gotta play Red Alert for Super-Soviets. Well, and maybe Singularity?

>>381088878
My motivation for disliking eugenics is that I believe in individual's life being a very valuable thing in itself.

>>381088882
As opposed to your feelings of not wanting to contribute to society? I mean, individualism is a pretty legitimate feeling. You know, there are plenty of countries you can choose where you can probably get by with paying minimal or no taxes. They usually happen to be the less developed ones, though, but that's the price you pay for not paying the price, I guess.

>>381088980
>famous German WWII-related memoirs.
Yeah just like "Mein Kampf" right, the book that couldn't even get the dates right because the jews fucked up something so simple as cross-checking dates.

>>381088542
That can be proven wrong very easily.

How many people would you allow to die to save one person?

There. The value of a human life is finite.

>>381089006
Where the fuck does it say there that Germany partitioned Czechoslovakia with the Soviet Union?

>>381089112
>It's t-t-totally not me, guise.

Please continue.

>>381088831
It interprets any action taken against you or your property against your will as an act of aggression and permits you to use any means you see fit to defend yourself.

>>381089127
>is that I believe in individual's life being a very valuable thing in itself
see >>381089168

Like I said, if you think an individual's life is valuable, it's not like a crowd of 1,000,000 people isn't made up of individuals as well.

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>>381083610
Marvel capeshit had good writing.

>>381089147
if all books written by nazis are jewish forgeries, how do you know your /pol/ infographics that tell you they're jewish forgeries aren't themselves forgeries?

>>381089259
I'm talking about the movies.

>>381089063
I guess that's true, gotta keep the image so brainlets can follow.

>>381089127
>As opposed to your feelings of not wanting to contribute to society? I mean, individualism is a pretty legitimate feeling. You know, there are plenty of countries you can choose where you can probably get by with paying minimal or no taxes. They usually happen to be the less developed ones, though, but that's the price you pay for not paying the price, I guess.
You'll have to reformulate this, it makes no sense.
Are you implying that I don't want to contribute to society? Where did you get that from?
And you keep talking as if I recognize the individual - I don't, I'm a national socialist, I recognize the family.

>>381089147
Those filthy Jews, they have managed to somehow print their lies by millions right under my poor widdle Hitler's nose!

>>381089168
Dude this is the trolley problem and there's literally no right answer

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>>381089273
O-oh, so it must be just me who still associates Marvel with comics first.

>>381089265
By going to the source material.

>>381088948
Why change something that looks good?

>>381081332
Don't judge a book by its cover. He's probably not such a bad guy once you get to know him :-)

#NotAllNazis

I thought The New Order had a serious tone to it from what I read on /v/. Did it have the abundance of 'humour' that was shown in The New Colossus?
Was thinking of picking up TNO when the summer sale comes around.

>>381089361
There's a reason I said Marvel capeshit.
Capeshit means superhero movies.

>>381089227
I'm going to interpret that as aggressively stupid and pre-emptively strike against all libertarians before they kill for accidentally breaking one of their dumb rules

>>381088948
Because MachineGames is just as lazy as Bethesda but have the technical proficiency to hide it well along with the advantage of the currency quality of FPS games being right for them to take advantage.
Back during PS2's golden age their DOOM and Wolfenstein would've been considered only a single level above bargain-bin. They've made the same game 4 times now.

>>381089265
If anything Nazi related is a forgery it's more likely done by Communists than any specific openly Jewish group.

You'll recall Stalin's gremlins were very into historical revisionism, photo manipulation, and editing of texts. Of course the Bolsheviks were Jewish all the way through but that's merely a coincidence.

>>381089352
Only a liberal can't answer it.

>>381089006
>During October 1938, Nazi Germany occupied and annexed the Sudetenland border region, effectively crippling Czechoslovakian defences.
>On March 15, 1939, the remainder ("rump") of Czechoslovakia was invaded and divided into the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia and the puppet Slovak State.

wtf I hate nazis now

>>381089384
#NaziLivesMatter

>>381089371
Because times and fads change, especially when talking fashion. Why wouldn't there be new uniforms?

>>381089398
Capeshit means superhero anything. Though, I do appreciate it that you don't make it interchangeable with comics like good chunk of retards do.

>>381089147
>The Jews are capable of orchestrating a global conspiracy to rewrite history
>But they can't cross-reference dates

>The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Fascist governments are condemned to lose wars because they are constitutionally incapable of objectively evaluating the force of the enemy.

>>381089394
No, it has a Inglorious Basterds-like tone.
For fucks sake, the main character canonically shrugs off getting a knife stabbed in his chest, and everyone acknowledges how you can pretty much kill thousands of dudes alone.

>>381089352
>and there's literally no right answer
The right answer is that if you value human life and want to prevent suffering, you will prevent the greatest amount of suffering from occurring by pulling the lever. I don't know why you're pretending the tram problem is unsolvable. Basic logic.

>>381083986
Yes, but everyone keeps forgetting that Stalin had almost 30 years to murder everybody he ever wanted while Hitler had like 1/5 of that time.

>>381088542
Then you take the side of the largest amount of ∞s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert%27s_paradox_of_the_Grand_Hotel

>>381088948

Why would you change something that looks good as that? Why does it even come off weird to anyone that doesn't overthinks this shit too much?

>>381089352
The trolley problem deals with intervention, not outright value of human lives.

>>381089370
what's the source material that Mein Kampf is a Jewish forgery?

>>381089058
The book is dull as fuck with boring characters, the only interesting part is futuristic orbital drop flying powered armour warfare with handheld nukes.

The movie is an all-time classic.

>>381089248
You aren't literally killing those people by increasing their taxation a couple of cents per month to support that one-in-a-million case, you know?

>>381089297
>as if I recognize the individual - I don't
I'm not sure how can you even "not" recognize the individual. That's incomprehensible. It's fascinating, though. A bit like talking to an alien. Always liked the hivemindy ones.

>>381089550
>Dude if you subscribe to my theory of ethics then the trolley problem clearly proves my theory of ethics correct
epic

>>381089586
Because it would be interesting to see how new styles could have looked like considering the setting of the game.

>>381089394
No, Wolfenstein never really took itself seriously and the newer games continue that trend, it isn't so "on the nose" as TNC appears to be though

>>381089627
>>381089631
You can mock it all you want, the truth is that you can't argue against it without resorting to your dumb feelings.
The value of life is finite.

>>381089627
>too stupid to enjoy high concept literature
You may as well just join Scientology, you're not strong enough to be out on your own.

>>381085212
He had slavs on his side though

>>381088143
>reddit is good maymay

>>381089667
there's nothing remotely well thought out about wolfenstein. Nazis are german bad guys in cool uniforms. That's as deep was Wolfenstein's Nazis go. As soon as you take that away, they're no longer Nazis

>>381081332

You can't judge all Nazis based on the actions of a few bad eggs. There were literally millions of Nazis, and less than 1% of 1% of them were involved in the prison camps. We don't judge Muslims based on the actions of a few radicalized terrorists, so why is this okay when it comes to Nazis?

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>This is what a Wolfenstein thread looks like in 2017

I sure love my cookie cutter political discussion asking for sauces and greentexting in a fucking /v/ thread.

>>381085212
>Tell that to the jews.
what is Israel?

>>381087126
>After numerous attempts at communicating with them and being ignored.
How rude.

>By employing a first-strike concept since war was already brewing and both sides knew this.
Stalin was actually executing people for bringing up possibility of war. He was holding out on hope Hitler isn't crazy enough to attack USSR until very end.
>Hurr durr I bet russkies had plan to take over the world around same time or something
If Stalin ever did have those plans, fucking Gorbachev who was specifically trying to destroy Stalin's "cult of personality" would've unveiled it or at least fucking fabricated.

USSR had to fucking come up with a plan to feed people at that time first.

>>381089763
This.

Killzone did a better job of every single thing Machine Games attempted to do.

>>381082091
>>381083621
Because utopia is impossible and a cheap and obvious way to portray a fucked-up fundamentalist society that crushes all dissent is to make it look like a utopia on the surface. It's such a cheap trick Star Trek had been using it every three episodes.

>>381083986
>Isn't that literally incorrect?

If we consider only premediate murder done intentionally by the state apparatus, then Stalin killed on the order of 10 (if going by Soviet internal statistics) to 6 (if going by an approximate estimate of categories those statistics likely missed) times less people than Hitler. If adding results of criminal negligence resulting in loss of life and/or simple misrule, then Stalin still killed 1,5 times less people than Hitler.

>>381089058
>Heinlein's worst book
>intelligent and highly admirable level of art

What is this

>>381089862
Stalin didn't give a shit about feeding people he was too busy erasing people he didn't like from photos and removing them from history.

>>381089519
Maybe the Nazis are traditionalists and want the old symbolic uniforms?

>>381083986
Mao killed more than both and the entire history of Australia combined

>>381089971
Think whatever you want, claiming Stalin wanted to fight Hitler is factually wrong and clinically retarded, he was scared.

>>381089627
>You aren't literally killing those people by increasing their taxation a couple of cents per month to support that one-in-a-million case, you know?
I didn't say they were, I was talking about the suffering of individuals who were born with suffering-causing birth defects as a result of the defective individual being allowed to breed, in addition to that own individual's lifelong suffering due to their disability, and then finally the cost to society.
>>381089631
Not a theory of ethics at all. Just basic logic.
If human life has X value, then X100>X1.
Disagreeing with that is like disagreeing with 2+2=4.
>>381089779
If lefties weren't colonizing here, there would be no disagreements. But yeah mods need to be more proactive in getting rid of political discussion when it starts. Until then though I'm going to keep correcting misconceptions.

>>381089702
Feelings are what make us human.

>>381089667

>Because it would be interesting to see how new styles

So I guess you're somehow missing the whole Sci Fi angle with the tech nazi soldiers with borderline power armors. Or are you just "weirded" out by the upper brass uniforms?

They're recognizable and appealing as fuck, I'd rather have that than something that could easily look much wore.

>>381089618
Answered somewhere in here
https://youtu.be/bwp7tVZuXKM?t=3651
Or maybe a different video, might be "Churchill's War" instead, been a while.

>>381090063
>Not a theory of ethics at all. Just basic logic.
That is a theory of ethics you dense twat

>>381090067
You can revert to this cultish mantra all you want, it's not an argument.

>>381090067
No, biology is what makes us human, you dumb SJW.

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Would Hitler have taken control of the US if he had gone with China instead of Japan and had enough overwhelming power to just zerg rush everyone?

Reading pretty much every single thing he said he liked the nationalistic and cultural pride countries had and wanted them to be their own thing. I can't help but think he would have left us alone after he got what he wanted.

>>381090063
>If lefties weren't colonizing here, there would be no disagreements.
Suck my dick fag, I've been here longer than you and it's always you people bringing up politics in the first place precisely because you don't expect any resistance.

>>381090132
and how do you know he's telling the truth?

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>>381084573
this dot is fake
source: I live here

>>381090262
Because the jews wants to shut him down so badly.

>>381090218
He obviously mean that feelings are one of the important traits that differentiates us from animals, that doesn't contradict what you said since feelings are also product of our biology.

>>381090067
Are you saying animals don't have feelings?

>>381090245
>I've been here longer than you
nope.avi

>>381090227
The Chinese were basically pre-industrial, they were a weaker military force than Japan
Germany could never have taken control over the US

>>381090270
What if it's fake to you because you are the terrorist attack

>>381084847
Get out of Auckland

>>381089435
>the Bolsheviks were Jewish all the way through
The number is overblown. It's big though, because Jews were treated like second grade citizen in Russian Empire for hundreds of years. So it's not a surprise there was a lot of animosity. But Stalin wasn't a Jew, and during the Great Purge a lot of Jewish Bolsheviks were purged (though they weren't targeted specifically for being Jewish, Stalin was less of an antisemite and more of a generally paranoid twat).

>>381089702
I'm not mocking you. And as I said above, I think that feelings are a pretty important thing and dismissing them isn't very smart, or even logical. You don't. We have pretty much completely different standings, so here's that.

>>381089715
Honestly I just think Heinlein is overrated as fuck. His later books are some of the worst I've ever read (Number of the Beast), and even his classics aren't amazing. I like sci-fi, but not Heinlein.

>>381090063
I think individuals with harsh life-impairing untreatable illnesses should have a right to decide if they want to die. But it should be their decision.

>>381090227
>Would Hitler have taken control of the US

No, he would've still been absolutely destroyed and China was going through its own clusterfuck in the aftermath of the Warlord Era, it would've been even more useless than Italy.

The second Germany declared war against the New World is where they lost any chance of even a white peace.

>>381090308
Just because Jews are butthurt about the holocaust it doesn't mean it didn't happen

>>381090345
Since Wolfenstein is magic time powers and kike cabal magic assume that it's post-industrial China with Japan's unwavering nationalistic pride and will to fight.

>>381090195
"The value of a human life is finite" is no less of a cultish mantra. You're specifically excluding those things we can't measure just because we can't measure them, and then conclude that the value of a human life can be measured.

>>381090361
it's the only livable place in this shitty country

>>381090484
Go look at a hill or something

>>381090415
Ah, that's funny you say that - David Irving doesn't deny the holocaust.

>>381090451
Cults exist by manipulating the feeling rather than logic, there are no logical cults. Your argument is over, he won and you lost.

>>381090435
might aswell just give the jew technology to japan instead

>>381090270
It's going back at least forty years or so so you have to think back before your lifetime and probably include radical animal liberation groups and USSR sympathisers Vietnam protesters and shit

Maybe even terrorist attacks that were thwarted

Fuck if I know how they counted

>>381090451
The value of a human life is finite.
Would you sacrifice 10,000,000 human beings to save 1?
No?
Then the value of a human life is finite.

>>381090313
Then he's still wrong. Animals have feelings as well.

>>381090563
fuckin weeb

>>381090332
ok cool

>>381090535
Principle still applies, it's a logical fallacy to assume that just because somebody is trying to silence someone that they must be speaking the truth

>>381090063
It's not lefties it's neogaf shitposters.
You can tell because they second you call any of them on it they become immediately defensive and stop replying to anyone.

>>381090610
He obviously meant feelings that animals (or most of them) don't have, such as high empathy, that prevent us from only caring for our own profit.

>>381090714
why else would they though

>>381090731
Like dogs? Like horses? Like most predatory birds? Like cows? Are you attempting to imply that animals don't mourn their dead and sacrifice themselves for their young or partners like elephants do you fucking stupid jackass?

>>381090604
there's no logical connection between those two statements

>>381090323
Animals have instinct. They have basic stimuli. People can feel in the abstract and conceptualise things like justice and love. And the value of a human life.

If you're going at it like a pure logical machine you might as well look at the market value of your organs or the mineral value of the iron in your blood. I bet it'd be really profitable to grind up homeless people. Could probably improve the quality of life of a whole bunch of millionaires. It's only ethical.

>>381090714
And what principle would that be?
That we are to trust everything fed to us regardless of the contradicting and downright retarded statements made?
Fuck off with that, if it truly did happen - there wouldn't be this witch hunt in shutting everyone down for merely trying to find the truth.

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>>381090839
>animals can't feel love

>>381090768
Because they like having the holocaust as their 'pet atrocity' so everyone feels bad for them and they can act entitled

>>381090570
it could go back to the middle ages, nothing ever happens here that isn't 'ndrangheta related

>>381090604
What you should be asking is
Would you sacrifice 1 person to save 10 000 000?

>>381090830
How is there no logic?
Explain it.
It seems pretty straight forward and logical to me, so I am curious how it isn't.