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Herro you wan run dungeon fuk u carm down
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>>381062819
Okay, anything you say Yoshi, just keep that katana away from the instance server!
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>>381062819
>MCH fucking boring now while BRD gets all the interesting stuff
Oh cool I can't wait for MCH buffs again
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On the more of BRD, are you supposed to DoT a shitton of enemies to build stacks for songs?
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>>381063586
Note of, not more of. I need sleep
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>I finally got a Battle High
You know what I'm okay with your shit new PvP

>no commends
Thanks EXP grinders
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>>381062819
Already a thread >>381055939
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>>381063586
Yes
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>>381063370
MCH is way more interesting now
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>>381064338
Then tell the retard OP to put some keyword in the OP so people can actually search for it
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>additional effect: extends greased lightning duration to maximum
Why did they flat out ruin monk?
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SAM is pretty neat
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>>381065817
But it's so fast and cool
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Can someone recommend me a good podcast to listen to while i spam PotD?
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>Y'shtola doesn't do much in ARR, save pop a bubble, like she did in 1.0
>Out for most of HW. Only thing she really does is tell us where Matoya is.
>Is instantly taken out for the SB story.
God, they really don't know what to do with her. Or Thancred.

You could list their worthwhile accomplishments on one finger.
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>>381062819
>do level 62 ast quest
>geomancer

GEOMANCER HEALER CONFIRMED.
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>>381070358
Yes, it was called whm before stoneskin was removed
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I think I'm in love with Lakshmi's music.
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Anyone know where Sea Serpents are? I'm trying to do some marks. It says there at Rasen Kaikyo in Ruby Sea but I'm just not seeing them.
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i like how RDM feels like it bypassed the T W O P O I N T F I V E of the game
>cast times
>instant casts
>skills that don't have cast times are 1.5gcd
>ogcds
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>WoL ends up letting Musosai live in the end
>Musosai dies of sickness anyways

Maybe expecting WoL to be cool for once was a little too much.
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>Yugiri: Hey WoL let's go out for a bit
Yeah alr-
>Lyse: CAN I COME?
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>30y range on planery indugence

Holy shit it's a long range. You can hit every party member from anywhere. Shame about the effect. It's visually good.
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>>381067837
How do you take screenshots like this?
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I'm a brainlet, someone tell me if my math is right for figuring out how much of a potency loss Onslaught is compared to Fell Cleave

Cleave is 500 potency and costs a GCD so I compared it to the average potency of a GCD spent on a Butcher's Block combo, which is (150+200+280)/3 = 210. So a Fell Cleave is a potency gain of 290. 290/5 is 58, which should be the potential potency gain of each 10 Beast Gauge if you spend it on Fell Cleave. So that should mean that Onslaught is a 16 potency loss compared to Fell Cleave, right? Since Onslaught is 100 potency and costs 20 Beast Gauge (50 average potency gain per 10 gauge spent).

That's not too bad for a 20 yard gap closer. If my math is right it's probably a potential DPS gain if you get even one extra melee auto-attack out of it.
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Just did Sirensong. It was a way better starting dungeon than Dusk Vigil. Didn't drag on too long and had cool designs. Are the other dungeons as good?
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How do you get element effects on weapons? I noticed a random SAM guy having a fire effect on his Augmented ironworks katana?
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Looking to transfer servers, since there's no way I can have time to play on balmung with 2 hour queues. Anyone have things to say about mateus, coeurl, goblin and zalera?
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>>381075121
Yeah. Castrum Albania is pretty fucking good for a 69 dungeon too. Gives about 2 million or so exp a run.
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Where's all the EXP to be had? someone said PvP. Never done it before but i'm getting sick of being gimp so i gotta get my grind on
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>>381075121
I'm up to the level 67 dungeon. So far they've all been really cool. The 65 dungeon is by far my favorite.
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So I just got back into playing this game. I have heavensward, but I've never played. I have a lvl 50 brd ilvl 110 and a ninja ilvl 60. I don't think i've beat the game far enough to unlock heavensward. I want to play ninja because bard is boring, but my bard has a higher ilvl so i'm not sure what to do. How do I gear up my ninja so that I can move onto heavensward? Or should I just play on my bard? I'm so lost..
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>>381075401
PvP, its 700k every 11-ish minutes. Nothing else even comes close.
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what did she mean by this?
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>>381075639
ilvl means nothing, as you can quickly get it 'up to date' relatively quickly.
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>>381075675
what queue is that? Frontline roulette? feast?
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>>381075639
The ARR MSQ grants you good enough gear to unlock HW.
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Jamie go to bed, why U fight a white mans war
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So, how is your class doing?
Sch have so little mana now, feels weak and got few new abilities to play around with.

Healing is a lot less fun so far
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Is MNK really that bad right now? I've been doing good levelling it but I'm worried about my end game.

Also, I've been meaning to level a ranged DPS but I know nothing about them.
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>>381076017
AST has never been more fun.
Maybe a smidge less dps but that'll be made up for with Lord & Lady
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>>381074979
I'm going to miss her crotch shots
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>>381075768
Frontline roulette, go in as a freelancer. XP is fast and its guaranteed. Literally nothing else comes close to the gains.
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>have PLD at 34
>oh boy I can get my tanking stance at a non retarded level now
>dungeons are trivial to hold aggro in
>just have to halone combo, flash/lob strays that lose aggro, and shield swipe when I see it light up
>bored out of my mind

I was told tanking gets enjoyable once you have a tank stance but so far this is as boring as playing dps.

Do I go back to playing healer? I wanted to try tanking since a healer mroe looks really out of place relative to them being in a frontline tank position

Since PLD is apparently the most fun and involved tank in SB I'm not sure what to think. I had a look over their later level abilities and it just seems like a lot of defensive cooldowns and not much in actual ability variety.
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The more I'm going through the MSQ the more that the Garleans are turning out to be right and that Eoreza is full of degenerates.
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>>381076017
change my tanks back reeeee
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>>381076072
We have no fucking clue because Omega Savage isn't out.
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>>381076017
Scholar is completely fucked, its just not a fun job anymore. I did a dungeon and hated it, and the new skills add nothing of real interest. I've switched to dps jobs
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These leveling dungeons are great.
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Are pvp exp rates fixed regardless of time/win/loss? could I make a premade group for quick losses for exp
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>>381076017
I wanted to force myself to like WHM but the lilies are so goddamn boring and lack impact. The AF3 gear looks so much better than the shitheap that is the AF3 AST gear but I have no choice but to switch.
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>figure out way to afford the expansion + sub time
>have an exam tomorrow and don't want to buy it now because i know i won't do last minute preparation

are PLDs good now?
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>finally make it to Ruby Sea
>feels like I'm about halfway through it at this point
>still haven't unlocked that optional dungeon yet
The zone is pretty great though not gonna lie. I have a feeling I'm gonna kill a primal really fucking soon.
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Summoner may have been gutted but at least whipping out Bahamut and destroying someone in PVP is fun.
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>>381076770
>he hasn't finished finals already
nigga what late-ass univeristy do you go to

Also PLD is the best tank now
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>>381074907
/gpose and lots of time/autism
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>tfw BRD/SCH in HW
>now BRD/AST in SB
Might try MCH too. Only thing I'm bummed about is all the tanks seem to be very lackluster, at least AST is pretty interesting as far as healing goes.
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>>381076770
the best, and still the most boring
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Should I just wait until omega savage before I choose which DPS job to level?
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From PS3 limitations to (new) server limitations

Pretty shitty server limitations for a goddamn subscription based MMO with a huge cashshop
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>>381076812
it's a resit because i'm a dumb fuck who can't into math
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I'm not sure how I feel. Seeing the game's population absolutely explode (they're even adding ANOTHER EU server on top of Omega now) has been really cool, on the other hand, the game has been a broken mess all weekend. Guess that marketing blitz was effective.
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>>381076471
>tfw healer main in every mmo
>trying to switch to dps now since sch is shit and I don't want to play the others
>potd grinding is already burning me out on dps
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>>381075447
That AoE DDR boss was great. The fact that the last boss spawned more than 2 line AOEs also didn't go unnoticed.
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>>381076981
A S T
S
T
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So, what's the verdict on WHM for people who've hit endgame? Still pushing up lilies, or is it alright? I've made it to the Ruby Sea so far and it doesn't seem that bad.
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>>381077094
Not as good as ast but better than sch
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>>381077142
A S T M A S T E R R A C E
S
T
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>>381062819
>talking to my friend about the different class changes
>mention SCH and how it got the nerf bat to its kit and how it can run out of mana now
>he then goes on this small rant about how SCH is actually fine and those who are running out of mana are just bad and don't get the class
>he actually believes the nerfs SCH got were actually fine and that mana management is based around healers not knowing what to do
Jesus I guess anyone who doesn't want to accept a class being gutted goes through these mental gymnastics. Doesn't help he believes MNK is also fine too and that people bitching at the class don't actually "get" it now.
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>>381077081
Never card mechanic is trash
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What classes are proc heavy?
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>>381077229
To each their own.
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>>381062819
Go play tank, I heard there was a shortage of that role currently.
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>>381077142
>some of the classes everyone said was cucked turned out ok and classes thought ok turned out cucked

what a world
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>>381077229
Better that than having nothing to do.
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>>381077246
RDM, MCH and BLM
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>Susano ex no bonus
>ilvl 300 required

Thanks Raubhan
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>>381077376
>RDM will have MP problems they said
Lucid Dreaming is pretty nuts tbqh.
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>my server gets the Balmung treatment
I wasn't aware Cerberus was that congested and full.
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>>381077513
>no bonus cancer still persists
Guess I'm not raiding in Stormblood either.
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>>381077221
>be SCH main since they were introduced
>Can't even cast more than 8 adloqs without running out of mana
>Aetherflow made beyond useless for getting mana

What the fuck square.
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>>381077515
>DRKs kept shitting on WAR for weeks
>they get fucked just as bad

its like half there kit got ripped out
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>>381077606
Just make a learning party and kick as you see fit.
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I started a new character on unpopulated server since I kept DCing and queueing on my main. Doing the MSQ is less fun than simply grinding.
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I've been away for a few days /v/, give me the quick rundown on SB early access.
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>>381076017
DRK feels more active but at the same time it's almost too repetitive. Losing Scourge hurts my soul, I still open fights and instinctively hit my Scourge key only it doesn't Scourge anymore.

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be using Dark Arts on Dark Passenger or not, it's a huge chunk of mana. Just unlocked Quietus and it feels underwhelming for how long it takes to ramp up the resources for it. New Delirium is kinda nice but mathematically doesn't end up being much of a damage buff apparently.

Leveling AST on the side because I've wanted to try healing and they're apparently pretty good at the moment. Wanted to try SCH but leveling Arcanist is boring me to tears.
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>>381077635
This is why I got such a kick out of people playing armchair analyst for job changes pre-expansion. Night and day on a bunch of shit.
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>>381077515
>dpsing my heart out
>barely broke 1/6 of my MP
I saw another RDM who's constantly hanging around half MP. Since the guides aren't out yet I don't know if that's a sign of playing correctly or not. Lucid Dreaming is insane though, if you get raised and pop that you'll be back to full at the end of it
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>>381076017
I'm liking the buffs NIN got, especially how you could do doton>hide>katon>kassatsu>frog on a trash pull.
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>>381077750
Damn, I forgot the second katon after the kassatsu.
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>>381077746
With LD you should never go dry even if you raise one or two people. I have no fucking clue how you need to play to not have MP and I killed extreme primals so I probably know what I'm doing.
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>>381077625
more like AdloquiOOM right
that's kind of what they get for laughing at WHMs for so long, now they're the only healer of the three who doesn't have MP issues somewhere down the line
what a ride
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>>381077703
Constant kicks
Jobs are dumbed down
MSQ was broken in multiple areas, but the most famous was the early Raubahn and Pippin solo instances that blocked 98% of the NA playerbase for nearly 3 days
Same gear treadmill
Same fetch quests
More "QTE" stuff
DPS queues are as high as early ARR when everyone picked Dragoon
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>>381077606
They don't even need to put no bonus in title. PF can block anyone who hasn't cleared now.

People still leveling so should be plenty of learning parties this week and raid finder to use as well
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>>381077625
Sch in PvP sucks so bad
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>>381077674
Too much effort, and way too time consuming.
SE needs to bar anyone with a ping >200 from entering Extreme/Savage instances, and to similarly bar anyone that hasn't cleared the relevent Stone/Sky/Sea trial.

When 1 person's mistake can wipe a party and waste 80 minutes of cumulative time, we really need to improve the player quality assurance in the raiding community.
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>>381077853
how do you waste 80 minutes when a fight is 15 minutes max assuming you even get to the end
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>>381076731
Thin Air and the impact of Stone 4 are what is keeping me interested. That and I actually have to try if I want to run out of MP.
Still have to see what it is like at 70.
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>>381077919
Because there's 8 people in the party, and a wipe can take up to 10 minutes.
1 wipe = 80 minutes of leisure time and/or human life squandered.
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>>381078007
Who gives a shit? They all consented to be there and they knew the risks involved.
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So both countries are freed at the end of 4.0?
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>>381077635
>just as bad

Fuck no but holy shit did drk get gutted it's still the same class at the end of the day on paper but all of the unique parry mechanics and mp management has been thrown out the window. War is barely a class at 60 no dot,no ogcd and stance switching is FUCKED for a class that had emphasis in the contrast while drk can change at will after a gcd at the cost of a clipped gcd after.
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>>381076017
BLM here. Haven't got to 70 yet.

+ AOE is finally different, you're not waiting to get enough ticks for more Fire 2s. Thunder 2/4 is a great addition in general.
+ Triplecast is neat. More mobility is appreciated.
+ Early dungeon bosses give you interesting reasons to use Between the Lines.
- You seemingly can't do 6 f4s in a rotation without waiting on a tick after B3 to do literally anything. This sucks on a class that's supposed to constantly cast. And we can't even meld piety to mitigate this. So either you get rid of an F4, or you get a clunky ass rotation
- Refreshes no longer work on a BLM in Astral Fire, including Lucid Dreaming, making one of the role skills completely pointless
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>>381078007
That's part of the tacit contract you sign when you sign up for a learning party.
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>>381078007
If someone is constantly blaming all their wipes on "ping" then that sounds like an issue you need to take up with them
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>>381078007
>1 wipe = 80 minutes of leisure time and/or human life squandered.
Bro you're getting angry about a video game on the internet, you life is already squandered.
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>>381078142
How exactly did DRK get gutted? They lost a debuff and a DoT.
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Let's be honest, is high end content even fun to you?

As in, "I want to do this every day JUST for the entertainment" as opposed to "I got my clear ugh now I don't have to do this shit again" or "I hope there isn't a faggot ruining my farm"

Because it seems to me everybody who runs them are leaning toward the latter. Was making it an overly rigid dance a mistake?
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>>381078172
Once you get Foul at 70, you use that once you shift back into umbral, costs like no mana
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>>381078007
That's not how time works, anon.
If eight people wipe after ten minutes, everyone has collectively still only lost ten minutes. The minutes don't add up just because there's more people.
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>>381078294
I like EX and raid content. It's the only content I really enjoy. Dungeons bore the shit out of me and I think the story is light years behind the average singleplayer game.
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>"NO BONUS" after 3 fucking days
What the fuck are these people doing?
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>>381077430
Viability isn't important to me. Could you give me a rundown of the playstyles? I like MNK and WAR as other classes go. Build and spend and procs are things I typically enjoy, hate long static rotations.
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>>381078085
>>381078201
>>381078208
>>381078241
I don't mind if people learn from their mistakes, but they never fucking do.
All I want is some quality assurance. If you can't beat SSS you need to go back to the basics and learn your damn rotation before you even attempt to learn a boss fight. And if your ping is so shit you cannot dodge an AoE in time, you have no business dragging down a learning party with your bullshit.
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>>381078390
Retards who want to be carried, most no bonus groups are full of morons.
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>>381078390

For 99% of the playerbase it hasn't even been three days. It's been about one day. The other two were spent trying to climb over Wall Raubahn and Wall Pippin.
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>>381078263
I just said but fuck it

>No dot
>No low blow(s)
>No reprisal
>2 combo paths aggro and damage
>darkside is set and forget since it no longer drains
>also AB and Passenger got nerfed hard and unleashed has been reworked and overall less effective (enmity from dmg>flat enmity value)
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>>381078390
>after 3 days

some people can't fucking play
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>>381069014
JRE
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>>381078387
I also like those content, but the problem is people's utter unwillingness to run them because they're scared shitless of ... things. This is what happens when the gap between regular and high end content is astronomically huge and unsync makes it even bigger.
I think I might ultimately prefer the 24man raids because they aren't as boring as dungeons or rigid as ex/savage but can still produce a trainwreck every once in while.
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>Blowdart quest
>Can't headshot them, goes through their heads
>Can't hit them without zooming in, even if it goes right through the center of them
Lame.
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>>381078172
I'm a bit mixed on BLM right now. I love the new aoe thunder, but the duration is so short procs barely happen. Probably fair, though. Really need to unfuck my rotation because if I start with thunder II/III, then go straight to fire III - fire II x3, I don't have enough mp for flare. This is probably where blizz III/IV comes in, but it's still a bit fucked in 50 dungeons. I think I'm also really feeling the aoe nerfs, going fire II - flare on three enemies isn't enough anymore. need to be four or more enemies now. I've also on occasion dropped enochian because I lost umbral ice/astral fire sometimes. Without the little buff timer icons it's a bit more difficult to keep track, haven't gotten used to the new job UI yet, or the new rules surrounding enochian.

My rhythm is all thrown off and I couldn't get into enough duties to practice it yet. Hope I can get back into the groove like I did pre-4.0. Looking forward to doing it right, though.
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>>381078681
Oh and the biggest one yet the blood price nerf.
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>>381069014
Let's Drown Out or KeepetClassy
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>>381078390
>3 days
>2 of which have been spent being stuck on Raubahn
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>>381077718
I still hit reprisal and low blow on CD because I think it still does damage.
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>>381069014
Common Filth Radio
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I started playing this a few weeks ago and went SMN because I thought they'd be pretty cool. I got to Heavensward and decided I really fucking hate this class and now I wanna re-roll my entire character for Stormblood because I've come to hate everything about him.

I kinda wanna go BRD/MCH to 70 because I literally play a mage in every game that they appear in but BLM/RDM looks pretty cool too. Help me pick, friends.
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>>381078870
I think that one was acknowledged as a bug on the jap OF.
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>>381078821
Shouldn't the rotation <lv68 be
T4 (or T2) > F3 > F2 > Flare > Transpose? With F2 being cut entirely if Transpose is up, or if you're doing double flare.

F2 should only be used as a filler so transpose can come off CD at this point I'm pretty sure. It's 80*1.8 potency now...

At 68 it probably becomes T4 > B4 > F3 > Flare > Flare > Transpose, assuming you have umbral ice already going.
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>>381077537
3rd largest, beaten by only Balmung and Gilgamesh.
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>Slayer of Gods, Rider of Dragons, Savior of Ishgard, Stealer of Pants
>ha ha so ebin great job localization team
>remember that I have, in fact, on at least one occasion stolen an old man's clothes
You win this round.
Does he still say this if you haven't done the Manderville quest?
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>>381065817
all these fucking riddles suck

>Riddle of earth requires you to be hit for it to work
>Riddle of wind just lets you to two weak ass shoulder tackles when you can just do Fire Tackle which is stronger than both together
>Riddle of Fire is there because no more blood for blood
>also Tornado Kick STILL isn't worth using :^)
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>Nocturnal sect asts are better than SCH at everything

What scholar shit in yoshi p's bento box for this to happen?
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>>381079097
Well, fuck.
We must've shilled it too hard.
Where did you get that info?
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Oh yes.
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>>381079081
I'm not sure actually. I'd doubt they would intend for us to actually stop using fire II, but with enhanced umbral hearts allowing for multiple flares it could be likely.

>fire IV replacing fire
>flare replacing fire II
>thunder II/IV
I really like the sound of this.
Now if only freeze wasn't complete shit.
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Anybody know a fun mobile game? Need to distract myself with something for the inevitable queue-90k-queue later.
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what the FUCK is her problem?
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>>381079193
maybe the fact that SCH hasn't spent a day in the shed yet
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>>381079329
Not enough kin to slay.
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>>381079193
>nerf SCH DPS
>nerf Fairy Heals
>nerf Aetherflow requiring you to take Lucid Dreaming
>make adloquium MORE EXPENSIVE

>replace Diurnal sect's gay effect with more healing potency
>make Nocturnal sect's effect even stronger
>buff aspected benefic's potency
>increase nocturnal shield strength
>reduce Malefic cost
>reduce essential dignity's cooldown

this isn't fucking fair
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>people have already reached 70
HOW?
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>>381079309
Record Keeper looks like fun if you want to stick with FF.
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>>381079482
Eat shit, SCH has been overpowered ever since they nerfed Holy from 240>200 potency.
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>>381079531
PvP farm and getting lucky with cold steel early on.
A friend's static of mine are all already farming the ex primals.
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>>381079531
By playing the game?
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goddamn kugane extreme keeps kicking my ass
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>Zenos round 2 in Yanxia
>that walk
>that sword
>that speech after
Why is Zenos the GOAT, /v/?
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>>381079531
POOP SOCKING NERDS THAT BLAST THROUGH THE CONTENT AND THEN COMPLAIN THEY DON'T HAVE THINGS TO DO.

Its like you're new to the MMO genre.
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>introduce 2 dps classes
>make 4/6 of healers and tanks garbage

bravo square
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I swear the difficulity in this game is inconsistent.

>doing sam questline
>everything is easy until 54
>all of a sudden difficulty jumps to retarded levels to the point that I almost lose with barely a silver of hp
>60 job quest easy as fuck
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>>381079649
I'm pretty sure WHM isn't garbage, just that it didn't get significantly more fun to play than before. My FC has been riding its dick for a while now
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>>381079641
I remember that in HW

>just got to tailfeather during the early access
>already there are fags at level 60 decked out in law gear and their Ravana weapon
>"there's nothing to dooooo"
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So people, be honest.

Do you see a Sephiroth raid at some point?
Like in canon they make some shot up about how after Cloud Omnislashes his ass his essence disappates and some wanders into the aether in the world of Hydaleyn and remakes himself?
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>>381079549
>muh job rivals
making a job useless doesn't make the game better

and AST has been good since like 3.2
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072TKY45Z
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>>381079649
Yeah it's pretty stupid for Yoshi to think people wouldn't want to play new classes on top of making it fucking tedious to level up healers solo and changing key moves that a lot of mains found fun.
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>>381079714
fuck no that'd be even worse than the raightoningu fates

would be okay with Shantotto again tho
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>>381079696
>didn't get significantly more fun to play than before.
With no more Cleric Stance, it kinda lost the one fun thing it had going on.
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I feel so bad watching healers try to kill things on their own I always help them if I see them. It's pitiful watching them chip away at mobs like that.
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>>381079721
>male 3XL
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>>381079673
The MNK 68 quest is harder than usual too. Its not all that bad, but fighting 30+ guys solo when half of them are ranged so you cant group them up to aoe is annoying.
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Anyone just about to buy the game?

If you want rewards give me an email and I'll send out a recruit a friend.
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>>381079714
Canonically dead characters cant be in FF14
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Damn, I'm really disappointed that you don't get to fight Lyse. It was in the trailer and everything
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>>381079641
The sad thing is that you have a rush a bit if you want to be able to do dungeons and trials as fresh as possible.
Though it's kinda too late for now even.
Did Susano-o last night and already there were people telling what to do in partychat.
Not like the fight even needs it.
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>>381079818
>Lost a dot
>don't even get the upgraded dots that SMN has

SCH DPS is fucking suffering
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>>381079582
A friend of mine's static*
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>>381079939
we lost two dots actually, aero and bio
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>>381079714
There is already Sephiroth raid.
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>>381079720
Better than being the dominant healer since it's fucking release.
it's about time SCH was knocked down a few pegs. But it won't fucking matter because they'll be over buffed back to their throne because all muh epeen sch mains going to cry about it.
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>>381079714
>Do you see a Sephiroth raid at some point?

Depends on how badly they want to shill the FF7 remake and if they decide to do a cross-over.
That said, I'd rather see a more setting friendly villain like Kefka or Exdeath.
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>>381080000
nice get
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>>381079976
3 if you count Miasma 2, and Shadowflare, while it has its damage increased, only has a 15s long effect and has a 45s downtime now.
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>>381079116
No idea since I did them, but Zenos does mention you conquering Bahamut around the end of the Yanxia area, which surprised me. I wonder what he says differently if someone didn't beat Coil.
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>>381079817
Cleric Stance is just a button you press for the sake of pressing a button whenever you shift from dpsing to healing. I stance dance like crazy and never felt it made the job fun, it's more like a casual filter and lets me know if the healer in the party is worth their salt than anything

If anything, losing Fluid Aura is more devastating. At least now it has Thin Air but pre lv50 content is gonna be shit
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>>381079781
You get a bargain-bin Shantotto, Shatotto.
She doesn't rhyme.
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Where the fuck is the "Nearly 3 days" coming from with the instance problems, anyway? It was barely more than 48 hours.
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>>381079021
Seriously? Links my dude? I hope it's just a bug, aoe tanking is so fucking bad otherwise.
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>>381080078
He said that and I never did T10-T13
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>>381080078
He says the same thing.
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>>381079883
>Canonically dead characters cant be in FF14

Sephiroth isn't canonically dead though. Chronologically, Advent Children is canon...For some fucking reason.
And his current status as of the end of Advent Children is...Nobody fucking knows. He could be dead, he could be alive, or he could exist somewhere in-between life and death as he did all throughout FFVII, dicking around in the lifestream.

Advent Children was a mistake.
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Is there any point in getting the i255 quest/vendor gear if I can blow poetics on Shire?
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Why didn't Yoshi add a hybrid class?
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>>381078294
>Was making it an overly rigid dance a mistake?
No, letting the infirm play and fuck it up for you was a mistake
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>>381080087
Maybe it's just because I only played WHM casually on the side, basically just leveling it just for the sake of trying a healer, but everytime I got in Cleric Stance tank or someone ate a huge crit or something and it was time for me to panic.
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>>381080143
>>381080078
He was talking about Omega, you clowns
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anyone find the new tome vendor?
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>resub
>do a couple of msqs
>don't feel like playing anymore

at least I didn't buy the expansion yet
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>>381079531

There's a guy in my FC who I think legit poopsocked. By Saturday evening he was already 70 and talking about end game stuff because he got past raubahn and pipin early. Then he would type stuff in chat like he was rubbing it in people's faces like "OH MY GOD THAT WAS SO COOL" then when people would ask what he would go "oh I can't say because spoilers tee hee :^)"

Now that other people are catching up he acts smug whenever someone mentions something like "oh yeah I finished that already".
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>>381080201
BRD effectively does support now with its rework and RDM can do some emergency healing
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>>381076156
Don't worry anon, now that /gpose is usable in combat and in free to use there will be more lewd content than ever!
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I didnt pick swiftcast on RDM because it seems redundant to, but I'm assuming even if you did, swiftcasting a spell doesn't offer you dualcast, right?
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>>381080201
One class that could queue tank and dps and another that could queue healing and dps. Would solve the fucking queue problems.

Instead we get two classes that are a weebs dream.
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>>381080418
>emergency healing
Kek. We just ran the violet tide temple with a pld, mch, sam, and rdm. Didn't even break a sweat.
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>>381080418
Did a leveling dungeon yesterday. Healer fucked up early on the final boss, and other dps soon after.
Then it was just me as a tank and Red Mage and he kept me up pretty well. We probably would have gotten it, if not for a fuckup with limit break.
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>>381079161
I hate doing pre 60 mnk shit as getting free chakra is good.
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>>381080486
It doesn't. It might be good for Verraise and casting the 5 second spells without going through Jolt, though. It isn't like there's anything better to take anyway
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>>381080539
>>381080556
well I mean sure RDM can heal just fine technically since they can dualcast heals and it scales off int so it's not like the old pissy Physick that SMN did.
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>>381080686
The rdm in the group was also dpsing. I hope this catches on. 3 dps 1 tank runs. The day of the noose comes for healers.
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>Lyse will never be your wife

Why live
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>>381078294

I enjoy doing the content for a bit then let my subscription run out.

>>381079935

Yeah the only thing I envy from the rushers I know is that they got to get into the content 100% fresh and because they were all power-leveling as a group they got to do it together rather than strung out like the rest of us are (some at 63, some at 60, some at pre 50, ect). Otherwise I don't see the point.

>>381080534

I'd be fine if they would separate DPS into utility (RDM, MCH, BRD, NIN is debatable) and pure DPS (BLM, SUM, DRG, MNK, SAM). If not enough of one or the other is available in the queue then it allows you to have 2 utility or 2 DPS. And same deal for full party being 2 DPS & 2 Utility.

I don't care if RDM is a weeb's dream though I fucking love it. Flashy and fun.

>>381080539

It was older content with Sohm Al but our healer died on the unicorn pretty much at the start and SAM/DRG/DRK did so much unreal DPS we were able to take him down. I can definitely see for a good party RDM with 2 more DPS and a tank surviving.
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>>381080810
She will be blacked by some mhigger. How does that feel?
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>>381080686
>>381080779
All those SCHs thinking about quitting the game should just swap to RDM if this is the case.
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>that music that plays when you finally meet up with Hien

bless you soken
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>>381080874
Can you go into savage with 5dps 1healer 2tanks?

I will seriously consider this
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>>381080940
You can go in with whatever comp you want if you have a full group
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>>381080871

Realistically she'll die before that happens.
Squeenix isn't stupid. Waifus in modern JRPG's are only allowed to get with the player character or not at all. It's how they keep the weebs subbed.
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>>381079817
>Cleric stance
>Fun
pick one
that shit was infuriating and fueled the MIN MAX DEEPS bullshit that DPS and tanks would throw at healers, making them pull 2 roles at once.
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>>381080940
A solo noct AST + RDM maybe be able to take care of anything. Or even solo WHM + RDM, if party wide shielding isn't needed.
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Why is Dragoon the coolest Job?
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Post samurai music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAHkQgWKsgo
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>>381081012
Excuse me for liking video games and thinking that more challenge == more fun. (To a point)
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>>381081029
Yawn... is there even a single dragon keft to fight?
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>>381080871
If she goes away with him and won't be with us on adventures anymore I would feel fantastic.
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>>381081139
WoL needs to start up his own Dragoon guild and teach Dragoons how to not be so cripplingly over specialized.
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>>381080810
Lyse is fucking obnoxious as hell in SB, I hope she gets blacked. Stupid cunt.
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>>381081029
>Why is Dragoon the coolest Job?

I mean, I guess if you consider jobbing like a mother fucker near constantly while the more popular PLD fucks the WHM you're in love with every night in the room right above yours "Cool", then yeah, guess it's the coolest.
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The WoL mist likely will never have an in game love interest as it could compromise the real money marriage service they're doing.
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>>381080810
>Implying Lyse isn't a carpet munching lesbian
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>>381062819
I haven't played since 2.51 where I wasted all of my gametime playing Triple Triad. Is XIV worth getting back into?
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>>381081276
Unfortunately you are right. Closest we'll get is that one romantic evening with alisaie in outer la nocsea
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>>381080002
They had the lowest dps, the lowest amount of heals, but the highest amount of utility, how exactly were they OP? Don't blame the class, blame the developers for designing content so that raw heals are a fucking waste and preemptive mitigation is always better
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>>381081080
'Kay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FFDDMPy32I
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Has Lyse gotten over Papalymo so quickly then?
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>>381079714
I'd rather see body horror Jenova than that overhyped faggot. We've already got far better long-haired prettyboy Garleans with daddy issues, we don't need a long haired prettyboy with mommy issues.

>>381079649
Now they are screwed to have to do a healer and tank only expansion next because they don't want to do 3 classes ever again. Geomancer and Blu mage tank, I guarantee it.

>>381081228
She's a spitting image of a spoiled self-absorbed white girl "I wanna find myself". "Abloo bloo bloo why aren't you all fighting against the ebil garleans what do you mean people die when they get killed in war :OO omg I wanna come along I wanna come along this'll be a fun adventure not a dangerous mission and unlike Tataru I'm not cozy in the city during it I'm out in the field"

At least we got that magnificent Roegadyn Samurai son of a bitch Yes I know he apparently dies. brightest flame burns the shortest and it wouldn't be FF14 if we didn't have a supporting cast far superior to the scions dying or being busy while the scions keep surviving
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>people manage to finally get through the roadblock and everyone starts rushing the MSQ
>they start posting unmarked spoilers everywhere
guess i'm taking a break from these threads for a little while
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>>381081432
Yeah, and she's an annoying cunt. She should die.
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>>381081432
Literally not even mentioned once. Same with shitfilia
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How rare is the hairstyle from PoTD
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>>381081526
People were posting spoilers even when Rhauban's wall was still up.
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>>381081575
>Same with shitfilia
Probably would have if that fuck Thancred ever showed up, Thank god he didn't.
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Forward and back and then forward and back and then go forward and back and then put one foot forward
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>>381081242
Dragoons will always be cucks.
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>>381081432
Lalafel are only half-men, so you get over their deaths in half the time.

>>381081276
Depends on if they want to go full on Bioware with it and give us romancable 'Companions' later as a new gimmick down the road when subs start to dip.
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>>381081609

You can just buy it from the MB for like 50 gil.
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>>381080940

>solo healer becomes the new meta

bravo nolan
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>>381081276
I dunno, they could easily set up multiple love interests that the player could personally choose from, or ignore all of them
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>>381080140
>moved to working as intended
rip in pieces
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forum.php#threads/329743
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>>381081457
Honestly, I was kind of surprised by how easily Lyse joined us to go to Doma. I thought that she would have wanted to stick around Gyr Abania some more and focus on the shit going on there with the whole returning to her homeland shtick.

It was only like two text blocks during the whole Doma conversation where she goes "I want to go help the Domans too."
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>>381081117
challenging is fine, but not when it fuels a hate war and promotes counter intuitive play
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>>381081708
>tfw got two of them on the first day and sold one to some desperate fuck for two million gil.
>MB was literally flooded with them two weeks later.

That was the easiest money I've ever made in this game and probably ever will make.
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>>381081575
I remember Krile mentioning how she was still around because she wanted to find Minfilia.
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>>381079714
But anon
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>>381081575
She does talk about him at one point. It kinda pains me they don't bring back any characters that were somewhat important from Heavensward/ARR back, but then again they're all in the backseat of the WoL.

Also thank god the cutscenes aren't 100% Alphinaud involved in SB (though Lyse kinda replaces him)
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>>381081783
>It was only like two text blocks during the whole Doma conversation where she goes "I want to go help the Domans too."
It wasn't even that, it was more like "since helping the Domans will help Ala Mihigo too I wanna go"
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>>381081708
wait wut
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>>381081858

No, she just stated that was her reason for coming to help the Scions in the first place but she's sticking around for new reasons.
She, along with everyone else, has given up on Minfillia, save for Thancred who can't let shit go.
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>>381081898
I would gladly take back Alphy in place of this stupid bitch.
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>>381080810
I wanted this bitch too die so much
After we left Doma party members that left were unbearable shit(except Alph boy)
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>>381081898
>Also thank god the cutscenes aren't 100% Alphinaud involved in SB (though Lyse kinda replaces him)
HW Alphinaud was way better than Lyse. Can't believe that kicked him out for Alisaie, she's almost as annoying as Lyse sometimes.
>>
friendly reminder that Summoner a best
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>>381081898

I was hoping for Estinien what with that whole cryptic comment of Urianger mentioning azure and twilight or sun setting whatever.

Then again I really would have liked just making a new scions of the 7th dawn with Estinien, Yugiri, Samurai guy, Aymeric and his Garlean waifu, find us a few other fuckers.
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>>381081807
MB?
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Waifu
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So is anyone else happy that we get more snarky, "Fuck this and fuck you I'm only doing this shit because you're making me" dialogue options in conversation this time around?
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>>381081984
We'll never see our boy aymeric again except in the alliance meetings
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>>381067837
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>>381081242
You're just mad cause PLDs can't jump
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>>381082009

Marketboard.
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>>381082047
Yes, but I was upset that there weren't option to slap Lyse's and bitchboy sister's shit before 67 primal fight
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>>381081276
>you will never take Tataru on a date to the Golden Saucer
>>
Are instanced fixed? I don't wanna get stuck in 90002/6 land for half an hour. I'll just PVP until it's fixed...again.
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>>381082047
I think after introducing the Dark Knight job they decided to go with the story concept that WoL is getting REALLY sick of the constant shit their being put through, and it's showing more through the dialogue options
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>>381082047
Sure it's nice. Though I keep picking the "I just want to punch thing" -options.
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>Heavensward added a Tank, Healer and a DPS
>Stormblood only adds 2 jobs, and they're both DPS
what is the justification behind Stormblood being so fucking terrible?
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>>381082491
The DPS jobs are fun to play :^)
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>>381082345
>You will never jam your giant Roe cock down Tataru's throat in a Golden Saucer hotel room because she wanted to know what the WoL's dick tasted like when she got really drunk
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>>381082491
I'd wager DRK is the least played out of the 3 HW classes simply because tanks are the least popular so SE figured making more of them is a waste of time
>>
Our character has been treated like a God for so long that my pride actually felt hurt in real life when we got shitsmacked by Zenos.
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>>381082491
It's easy to add classes that "Do damage lots", it's harder to work out classes who are better suited to take damage and heal others
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>>381082491
> they should only tank classes and tanks that can be healers, just like wow!!!!!!!!
Fuck off
Because mmo developers always played safe genre died
At least Yoshi had balls to add actual dps classes
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>>381082646
I fucking loved it, not even gonna lie.
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>>381082491
I honestly think they're gonna add either a Tank or a Healer during the run of SB. Probably in a year or so.
>>
I want to fuck Gyodo
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>>381082646
>that slow walk he does
spook
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>>381082541
Yeah, because we really need more DPS fuckers when trying to find a party for a Duty.
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>>381078007
>10 minute wipe = 80 minutes because there are 8 people
Holy shit you might just be the most retarded person in this entire website.
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>Get destroyed in the Feast
>Over half the enemy team gets achievements for first Feast victory
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>>381082741
>during the run of SB
They can't even do 2 dungeons every patch and you think they're going to add another job after Yoshi already said they wouldn't after mid-expansion after Ninja?
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Can anyone tell me what this is called https://my.mixtape.moe/qedslv.ogg
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>>381079238

wait what you can get a garlean uniform?
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>>381083012
What happened with NIN.
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>>381083046
Doma Castle dungeon
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>>381083157
Yes, part of the MSQ in Yanxia.
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>>381082875
I think you're the retarded one if you can't comprehend basic math.
If your 8-man party wipes at the 10 minute mark due to an enrage because one or more dipshits don't know their rotation 80 minutes of people's free time has been wasted.
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>>381083196

What level?

Is it glamourable cosmetics?
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>>381081723
Anything to get my dps/healer rythm back

If red mage seriously has a chance to be a half decent off healer I'll take it. A mass scholar exodus to red mage would be kinda hilarious though
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Why is the WoL such an autist? Even with all these snarky remarks it still feels like autism is a huge driving force.
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>>381083256
Like 54, yes
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>>381082913

>Teamstack over to Addlers
>Winning every day nigga

It was a pain in the ass to get GC tickets because you can't turn in shit to reach sergeant (only after sergeant), have to reach 1st lieutenant to get access to your adventurer party again, but man they don't always win but they are the most reliable bet.
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>>381083305

wew ty

its all i've ever wanted
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>>381083293
HATE PRIMALS
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So are all Samurai running around with robes 24/7 in all their gear? Or do they actually have some different looking stuff?
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>>381082437

A Realm Reborn.
>"Ha! Sure thing! That sounds great! Kill a primal? Okay!"
>"You want me to do...What?...And when?...That soounnds...FANTASTIC LETS GO!"
>"Haha, it's okay that I almost died. At least we're all still best buds."
>"What? Nah I don't mind running these errands I like to help. Time for an adventure!
>"Why yes! I'd love some wine thank you!"
>"Wait what just happened Ilberd what are you doing stop what the fuck Teledji you little shit why is Nanamo dead my feet hurt I want to go back to the lavender beds this isn't cool stop it"

Heavensward
>"*Sigh*, the shit I put up with."
>"Piss off, Kupo."
>"H-haurchefant?...Oh god everything is awful now and my life is darkness."
>"No...No thank you I would not like a drink."

Stormblood.
>"I literally do not care about any of this Alphinaud. I'm doing this because I pretty much have to at this point."
>"No I don't know, nor do I care. But you're going to fucking tell us anyway so get on with it.
>"This is exhausting. You're all exhausting."
>"No you are not running off on your own that's fucking stupid."
>"If these fookin' horse shaggin' lizards offer me a goddamn drink I'mma plum jigger them in the tally wack next time they scamper off to the privby that's for true swear on me mum's rose scented arsehole"
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>>381083467
WE
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I don't think i can do it anymore. PotD 5 hours a day for 3 days and i'm only level 56. I just can't do it, i don't want to play this game anymore. My hype is gone, i hate video games at this point. PotD has to be the single most tedious grind in any MMO or game ever created. It's so bad. And the worst part is nothing is as effective as PotD for leveling, dungeons take 45-60mins to get in and pvp gives half the exp for one run compared to PotD. I hate it so god damn much.
>Mfw just thinking about another run
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>i310 fags already surfaced
stop poopsocking reeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>381083467
Stormblood WoL is amazing. Went from a bobblehead to one of my most favorite characters yet
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>You are unable to accept a new duty. Please try again later.
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>>381083613

If you spam floor 51-60 it isn't so bad. There's usually people with maxed weapons that just breeze through it in less than 10 minutes.
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STOP TELLING US THAT TATARU IS A JEW, WE ALREADY KNEW.
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>>381083624
I instapicked the 2nd option in the first box.
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>>381083467
>"If these fookin' horse shaggin' lizards offer me a goddamn drink I'mma plum jigger them in the tally wack next time they scamper off to the privby that's for true swear on me mum's rose scented arsehole"
I thought I was the only one who hated them.
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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/7ed4e90df2adf74056abb61fa2951ef5730f42e6

>*As of today, users will be able to select the Louisoix World at the World selection screen after creating a character, but the Louisoix World will not be displayed in-game at the data center selection screen. It will be added in the next HotFix.
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>>381083753
>Tonberry
There's more aussies now?
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>>381083671
That's what i have been doing and it's still terrible. God i hate this game.
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>>381083815
Just do PVP instead.
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did anyone translate that text in the msq after 2nd dungeon?
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>>381083850
Doesn't give as much exp but i might have to this shit is just ridiculous.
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I love this guy.
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>>381083293
WoL is going to go nuclear
its gunna be great
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>>381083909
just watched this scene
mfw the scene after
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>tacky resource bars that make things worse for more than half the jobs
>boring scions being boring again story, best parts are side trips in not-Japan
>easy as fuck "high-end" content meaning you gear to pre-raid cap in a day
>everything else beat for beat rehashed from Heavensward
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>second speed boost for mounts is bought (for each area) with Allied seals. 250 each.
>have 0 because fuck hunts
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>>381083293

It genuinely feels like the WoL is slowly morphing into some sort of Doomguy like character.
It eventually gets to the point that they've murdered so many primals, beastmen, and Garleans that it ends up being their single driving force, and the only thing that brings them joy in an otherwise mundane world filled with fetch quests and faggot ass errands.
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So for RDM, would it be better to pre-cast Vercure to go into the battle with double cast ready?
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>>381083969
Ah yes, /ourguy/.
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>>381082104
Circle of scorn.
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BLIZZAGA
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>>381084143
Do you mean Blizzard III?
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>>381083427
There's plenty of non-robe glamours already in the game.
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Should I resub for a month? Will I be able to get through ARR's content in that time?
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>>381084143

is that a jojo reference
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I know people are still learning their rotations but fucking christ if you're a fuckup who can't play a new class and pay attention to boss mechanics at the same time at least learn how to do your rotation properly so you're not a complete dead weight.
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So those new books from hunts are used to ugrade tomestone gear?

And can you only put 1 grade VI on gear and nothing else?
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>>381081428
>try to watch ruroni on netflix
>loved it years ago
>now its just obnoxious crap
>must explain each sword skill
>how it works, what its used for,when it was developed,how it could win this fight
>all the fucking time
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WHM isn't as bad as I'd anticipated, but the lily mechanic is 100% useless and having to choose a limited set of skills that we had before is pretty frustrating when we're basically obligated to have Esuna, Protect and Swiftcast.
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Hey /v/ what will be the most popular class in a few weeks ? SAM or RDM ? And why ?
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>>381084103
>So for RDM, would it be better to pre-cast Vercure to go into the battle with double cast ready?
It's okay but the best way is to precast 5s then go into another 5s and then go normally from there.
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Is there a hardcore penetration scene in Stormblood?
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>>381084413
The worst thing about WHM is WHMs using that fucking pull on people to "save" them and completely fucking up their positioning.
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>>381084413
you're basically only going to be using lillies to lower the cooldown on Assize (to a whopping 48s instead) and waste it on Divine Benis when you have 1

Like, they couldn't make it something like a party regen whose potency is stronger with more lillies, or make Divine Benison shield more with more lillies? or even just make Assize stronger with more lillies
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>>381084432
I don't know, let me hop in my fucking tardis and find out for you lad
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>dps class has better cures than scholar
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>>381084584
>The worst thing about WHM is WHMs using that fucking pull on people to "save" them and completely fucking up their positioning.
All healers have that not just WHM.
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>>381084664
Time to pull you closer to my heart.
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>>381084664
Do they? I've only seen WHMs use it. Must be because of how bored they are now.
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>>381079673
I had the opposite problem. I breezed through until the 60 quest where I just couldn't do enough damage, and I had a tense fight where I hovered on about 4k HP the whole time, using third eye and the heal from it, potions, second wind and berserking or whatever it is while dodging AoEs and getting what little damage I could in.

Probably should've picked up a new weapon for that one.
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Can't decide if I should make an elezen or miqo, which one had better animations for all the jobs, and looks best in gear?
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>>381082642
i think SE cant imagine another class being a tank, although

>blue mage tank could potentially work depending on the skills and a potential skill to "learn" enemies moves based on the dungeon
>beastmaster as tank sending pets into battle like a smn but any damage taken by the beast goes to the master, same for healing
>mime tank? probably not
>fighter as a tank, using different weapons for different skills or something
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>>381084797
Elezen have pretty bad animations especially sprinting
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>>381084641
>b-but chain stratagem!
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Is doing the side quests the best way to level up so I can continue the MSQ? I seem to hit a roadblock every few quests with 1/3 of a level to go.
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>>381084797
>Not making a special snowflake Au Ra
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>>381078390
being a fucking mongoloid because you can select duty complete so bonuses cant get in
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>>381084852
Help some friends or FC mates through dungeons a couple times.
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>>381084584

>getting ready to unleash my big dick buffed midare
>no mechanics or aoes happening
>healer pulls me for literally no reason

I don't know if they were trolling or just bored.
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>>381084862
All the good looking Au Ra customization options are already NPCs.
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That duty action feature is cool
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>>381084862
>like that shade of blue on the scales
>can't actually use it
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>>381084584
>tfw i do this
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Why the fuck are there just a bunch of lizards living under the sea
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>>381084584
Even if there was a practical use for that ability, it's absolutely moronic to take that over other more useful abilities. Anyone using it is stupid for simply having it, nevermind their stupid use of it.

>>381084614
The problem now is that Assize eats your lily stack, and if you're doing any DPS at all (which you should be, there is literally no excuse now), it is completely worthless to throw unnecessary C2s just to get lilies, and by the time you naturally throw enough C2s in battle to get 3 lilies your Assize is already nearly off CD. I've even tried changing my strategy to rely exclusively on C2 instead of the usual regens, and I still almost never have a full stack of lilies before blowing it on Assize. It's fucking stupid.
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>>381084968
No see when you use it to troll nobody gives a shit. It's when someone fucks you over but thinks they're helping you out with some basic boss mechanic that pisses me off.
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>>381084993
>why does my weeb garbage have massive plot holes
gee i wonder
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>>381084281
How far in are you now? I'd say a month is definitely enough to clear it from the start even with all the sidequests.
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>>381084993

They explain it in detail.

And of course all the cutest lizard girls come from there since their skin and scales stay nice and moisturized and don't get damaged by the sun.
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>>381084584
Apparently the pull and lilies both are more useful in PvP.
Doesn't excuse them for being kinda shitty on PvE, but still it's there.
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>>381084797
Male or female? Male for both races have terrible animations, but females are both alright in this aspect.
For gear, depends of the job. Elezen looks great in heavy armor (like tanks and DRG), but terrible in "small" clothes (NIN, slut stuff) while miqo'tes are the opposite (weird in heavy armor and good on small stuff). They both look alright in magic stuff and other sets.
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are smns in the cuckshed? don't really feel like leveling from a low level and I only have smn and nin at 60
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>Get 68 BLM
>Passive Double Flare now
>Thunder IV with Sharpcast Proc
God I can't wait to get Foul and be an AoE god. Plus I don't feel like my Single Target has gotten that gimped with constant 6 Fire IVs now as well. Do wish we still had that half second before our buffs disappeared as if you're past 3 seconds, you may as well kill yourself and start casting Blizz 3.
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>>381085257
>Leveling SMN or SCH will level the other
>"Maybe we should balance that?"
>"Yeah let's make them both shit."
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>>381085257

go with NIN.
You can at least unleash your inner weeb retard and pretend you're Naruto every time you use your hellfrog.
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>>381081080

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxchyP5HPKo
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>>381084413
Even the idea of preparing different role actions based on the content you're going into, i.e. dropping Esuna because the dungeon doesn't have debuffs or something, is stupid. There is no reason to limit my access to those abilities, especially when I had ALL of them before and my class worked just fine. Limited role actions are stupid and we should just have all of them, period.
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Is there a more kino moment than flying around Azim Steppe, sunset emerging and african chants start playing ?
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>>381085024
Lillies should have been used for a new mechanic instead of just reducing the cooldown of some existing skills, all but one of which have a cooldown of a minute or less (Asylum being the only 'longer' one at 90s)

Given how short these cooldowns are you'll almost never have the 3 lillies to use on one skill in time

ALSO YOU'RE LITERALLY BUILDING UP SHIT FOR WHAT IS BASICALLY CONSIDERED A TRASH CARD FOR AST THAT WORKS FOR EVERYTHING INSTEAD OF ONLY A COUPLE SKILLS
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Do the ninja ninjitsu scale off dex yet?
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>>381084432

RDM by far

not only have people been memeing it since 1.0 but it's actually more fun/accessible than SAM by an amazon mile
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>>381085168
WHM to me feels more like a DPS class now with bonus heals. I'd imagine endgame raid content is the only time constant heavy healing is required enough for us to slow down the damage and budget MP, but any reasonable raid party isn't going to take a WHM anyway.
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>>381085507
sunrise fuck
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>>381082646
>everyone going JOBBER OF LIGHT
>everyone else gets heavily wounded almost instantly while you tank two of his powerful attacks and are functioning as if you hadnt even been in a fight right after
WoL probably jobbed it because its more fun that way
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>>381084432
SAM is more popular now, but RDM does way more damage, has way more burst, has way more utility and in general is probably the best class in the game at 60 cap. If that continues to 70 then RDM should end up more popular but katana memers will probably stick with SAM.
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>>381085608
>there are people who can't even play RDM well
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PoTD still doesnt need an ilvl right?
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>>381084089
That or single handedly out processing entire crafting guilds, out doing whole mining facilities and clear cutting whole forests.
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>WHM are getting more attention from square about fixing their class even though its mostly fine
>AST got buffed so hard that groups are just going to be AST/AST
>RDM can fucking out heal us

Are we the just class now?
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>>381085731
WoL can only ever job in cutscenes because of class disparity making it impossible to animate him fighting unless he is using a macguffin weapon.
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>>381085864
Yes

>tfw I still press my Bio I and Aero I hotkeys
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>>381085731
I think they were more surprised that even YOU jobbed, when normally you're the one kicking names and eating ass
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>>381085895
yeah, it blows
PSO2 had the same issue which ended up with the earlier ones being hilarious where you just one-shot shit with a unarmed punch
also has the same issue of player character power creep as well funnily enough
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>>381085864
I heard of nerfs but holy fuck the team literally took a bat to SCH's knees you can even work with SMN but SCH is just trash now.
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>>381083815
Get a good group of people that know what they're doing and spam floors 50-60. If they're not being shitters and killing everything (after key is unlocked) and if they're capped on aether weapons, it's generally 8-12 minutes per run.

Find something to passively entertain yourself (music, audiobooks, podcasts, netflix, etc) and POTD will be a bit easier to run past the mindnumbiness that it currently is.
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>>381085864
>WHM are getting more attention from square about fixing their class even though its mostly fine
It's wasted effort really, they're only ever going to try to "fix" the lily mechanic which is completely worthless and simply doesn't jive with how WHM plays at all. The best way to handle it is to remove it and replace it with something entirely different, but they're never going to do that.

That said, it is good to see some WHMs actually doing damage now instead of just sitting on the sidelines.
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>Gosetsu is clearly a half race roegadyn/hyur
>Yoshi claims he's just a Roegadyn.
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>>381083792
Yes. The massive influx of players in Tonberry really took me by surprise, before early access you can spot about 30 people in Idyllshire at any given time. Now when you log in you can fucking see people everywhere you go.
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>>381086027
good
fuck SCH
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>>381085805
I just wish their actual party buff utility was better. Embolden is kind of gay.
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So how should I play PLD with Holy Spirit in play now?
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They'll fix SMN and SCH
They'll fix WHM
They'll fix MNK
They'll fix DRK and WAR

J-just you wait you SAM, PLD and AST fucks
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>>381086047
He could be a Roegadyn that isn't the same race type as sea wolves or hellsguard.

Just like how Garleans basically use Hyur models but are a separate race altogether.
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>>381086068
>butthurt whms
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>>381085731
The WoL has the heads of dozens of god's in his trophy room and has killed enough Garleans, Beastmen and Eorzeans that you'd need a landfill for all the bodies. He probably gave him a free shot since he knows he won't survive their real fight
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>>381086026
At least XIV now acknowledge what job role you are instead of always thinking you're a Hunter or Fighter.
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>>381086072

I just don't get why it's not a generic damage buff. But I guess with the classic class at up (2 melee dps 1 BRD/MCH) it'll do a lot more work
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>>381086068
I had a feeling WHM was going to be decent in the expac after complaints but I would have never thought SCH would have been the worst of the 3.
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>pre SB
>DRK+MCH at 60
>MCH main
>doing anima quest
>hit the umbrite phase
>get 100% discouraged
>SB hits
>umbrite is now dirt cheap and super easy to acquire
>finish it in 2 days
>looking ahead at what I need
>see every HW trial and the density grind
>as a fucking MCH, a DPS
>switch to DRK as main just for instant queues

welp, I am literally never going to finish this fucking questline am I
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>>381086139

>AST uses their sexy as fuck healing mine, looks cool

>WHM fishing for procs and spinning with assize
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>>381086024
I'm still going with the "WoL is a primal/psuedo-primal" theory where his power directly trends with everyone's faith in him. Shaking that faith would then be the most reasonable way of stopping or at least slowing him down.
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Damn, the RDM quests were pretty good for what they are. I can't help but think they're testing the waters for squadrons with these new job quests with the AI actually doing boss mechanics and shit. I actually had fun with all the solo instances this time around.
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>>381086192
it was like +20% before decaying too but they nerfed that to 10%
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>>381085805
>but RDM does way more damage

Even vs primals and shit that lives for a little bit? 10% attack 15% speed and a fucking 60 second dot seems strong as fuck and don't even let me get started on those huge potency skills
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RDM IS SO FUN HOLY SHIT
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>>381086269
do a party finder for other people doing their density grinding you dingbat
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>>381086285
WHM sure has some of the flashiest shit. You always know when they're popping CDs because of all the obnoxiously bright and huge sweeping white glowing shit coming from the back.
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>>381086415
nobody gives a fuck about anima now that SB launched

MAYBE in a few months when the hype of the expansion has worn off but we're still in early access, nobody wants to do that shit when they could be levelling or playing the new classes
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>>381085136
Looking at my profile I'm a level 28 Arcanist, and based on my equipment, I think the last Main Quest I must have done would probably be Big Trouble in Little Ala Mhigo.
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RDM dualcast is fucking crack
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>SE show off tiger mount
>requires 2000 S rank kills and 3000 A rank
>literally nobody in the world is even close to that

pure fucking autism
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>>381086485
doesn't your next main story quest appears always in the top right of your screen?
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Hey, Primal healers, queue for Shisui.
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>>381086173
So am I right in thinking the WoL gets the John Cena level recovery where the next time he/she meets with Zenos it almost as if the earlier defeat didn't even happen?
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Is spamming fronline good to level up or only the roulette bonus is
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>>381086538
I am
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>>381086485
You'll be fine if you spend a reasonable amount of time playing it over the course of the month. You're about halfway through the MSQ for ARR (there's then post-ARR quests before HW)
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>>381086139
>Tfw raiding parties will be

>PLD, PLD, AST, AST, SAM, SAM, SAM, SAM.

Feels good
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Why are the devs so afraid of making lilies proc from Regen and Medica II ticks?
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>>381086653
>Implying it won't be PLD, PLD, RDM, RDM, RDM, RDM, RDM, RDM
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>>381086478
>>381086285
Who has the flashier kit, AST or WHM? And is the less flashier of the two still on the higher end of flashy?
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>>381086561
I haven't got the game downloaded and I don't have any game time to check anyway.
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I'm hyped for new content but I'm already so fucking sick of the nip/chink aesthetic in SB

pandas, tigers, samurai, shogun. kappa

I swear to fuck if the new relic is some fruity japanese styled weapons

inb4
>FOLDED OVER 1 GORILLION TIMES!!!
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>>381086668

They want AST to be stronger.

Or they thought "random RNG mechanics on healers is fun right!" While also lowering the RNG on AST thanks to the minor Arcana
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>finish story
>Lyse is still an unlikable cunt

Whole point of the operation was to kill Zenos, yet she was upset that he tried to kill himself? There was no intention from the getgo to letting him live.
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So is this game actually fun now?
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I'll be your tank for this dungeon.
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>>381086668
>can't spend lilies on DPS
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>>381085895

There really is a simple solution for this.

>If WoL is X job in this scene, they do the action.
>Otherwise NPC does the action.

For example.
If the scene calls for some fancy knife fighting and the WoL is a NIN, the WoL does the action.
If the WoL is anything but a NIN in that scene, Thancred does it instead while the WoL stands around gawking.

If the WoL is a WHM in a scene that requires someone to cast Holy, the WoL casts Holy.
Otherwise Shtola casts Holy.

It's not like they're mocapping shit anymore. All they'd need to do is swap WoL's model with the default NPC's model and tweak a little dialogue.
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>>381086875
Only if you're a paladin, astrologian or a dps class that isnt monk/summoner
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>>381086653
>>381086726
Meanwhile in real life
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>>381086810
Folded over 1 gorillion times AND Rowena tries to jew you.
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>>381086837
Not only the minor arcana, but also undraw before you hit 70 (or to immediately get rid of the held card to start the cooldown to maximise card draw downtime)
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>>381086785
Attack spell wise, I think WHM looks better. Holy, Stone/Aero, Assize look pretty great.

But AST always looks cool, spinning cards, their channeled shield, their buff/stun aoe, their new mine spell with the constellations.

Both are flashy and fun to watch (unlike SCH...)
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>>381086964
But that's unoptimal and not a thousandfold theorycrafted setup. REEEE!
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>>381086837
I don't mind good RNG that is beneficial to whatever it is you're currently doing anyway, like Bloodletter resets and Thundercloud. Just wish that WHM RNG played more into the class' strengths.
>>381086882
Ideally, I'd like it if lilies were just like mini GL stacks, giving you +3% attack speed or whatever.
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when will it end
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>>381086907

When Ysholta was cut down by Zenos, that Lala with the cat ear outfit called "help me, you're a healer aren't you!" Which I thought was cool since I was a Healing job
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WAR doesn't feel the same without bloodbath, also i am sick and tired of fell cleaves. I think im going full NIN.
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>>381086173
I don't mind the story treating WoL like a god all the time, to me it's a nice change of pace from XI always treating you like random adventurer garbage no matter what you've accomplished. But having the Scions and friendly NPCs constantly fawning over how great he is gets a little tiring, I'd rather see some enemies actually shitting their pants like Thordan. Everyone still acts like they stand a chance against him, there's never any apprehension about it, like what the fuck. WoL is Mobius 1 on steroids, simply strolling out onto the battlefield alone should be enough to completely demoralize a rallying army if not prompt complete surrender.
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>Made 20mil on release weekend

How did my orher fellow jews do?
>>
>>381086851

It's usually one of two things in a situation like this.

>Protagonist wants to kill badguy and badguy kills self at the last moment to deprive protagonist of their revenge
Or
>Protagonist wants badguy to face actual justice for their crimes, but this is denied by the badguy taking the easy way out.
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>>381087138
thought that was cool too
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>>381086603
Well, likely the next time you run into him you'll be ten levels higher, it will be exactly that
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>>381087234
tell me how
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>>381086668
Why did they think it was a good idea to have a cooldown reducing mechanic that takes long enough to stack that it renders itself useless?
>>
So after all this the best Primal theme is still Ramuh's?
>>
>>381087361
>So after all this the best Primal theme is still Ramuh's?

No, because Bahamut is still technically a Primal.
>>
>>381086810
Did you get sick of the other cultures from every other region?
>>
Anyone knows how to grab the Aether current on the northern wall in The Lochs?
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>>381087189

I thought it made more sense on the eastern side of things. How would any of these people hear about the Warrior of Light?
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>>381087138
You mean Not-Tataru?
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>>381087361
>who is Ravana?
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>>381087361
That's not Lakshmi
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>>381086516
Hell yeah
>Tfw really lucky and proc your shit 10 times in a row
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>>381087361
>T I T A N
>Ultima
>Ravana
>Sophia
>Lakshmi
>Shinryu
nah
Ramuh is still nice though
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>>381087589
It's like you guys never played MCH in HW
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>>381087506
never mind, you need to go through the king's tomb area
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>>381086878
I WANT IT. WHERE IS IT. WHY AM I NOT WEARING IT NOW?
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>>381087521
People not knowing or at least not recognizing WoL is fine, and enemies with substantial faith or "at least I have to try" causes are totally fine. Obviously for the sake of gameplay you can't have everyone cower in fear from the WoL all the time, but there should be some sprinkling of it here and there in cutscenes.
>>
How do you guys feel about the new Machinist? I felt like trying it out in 3.x, but never got around to it. I've heard hardly anyone talk about it. I heard it's considerably less powerful now, but I don't know firsthand. Is it fun, for those that have used it?
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>>381087638
Not them, but MCH procs never felt all that satisfying, outside of maybe Clean Shot crits.
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>>381087306

Glamour sells
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>>381087638
How is mch now anyway? I haven't seen any in dungeons yet.
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>>381087724
MCH fell under the
>Hey what if we balance Lv70 version of the job so that Lv50 and Lv60 are now disgustingly unpleasant to play
bus
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>>381087785
man I really need to get my crafting up.
>>
>>381087724
>>381087789
70 MCH here
I like it, the heat gauge made it interesting to play with. I still don't see the point of Turret Overload outside of phase shifts where your turret gets auto desummoned anyway. Wildfires hit for old mildfires now, but more often. There's several ways to get back your heat if you fuck up, but as long as you remember that cooldown and rapid reload exist, you should be fine. I'm liking it more than I did at 60.
>>
>>381087851

Weebs like their steel shiny man. Did not expect this myself
>>
What would the best way to grind tank and healer to 61? The dungeons or spamming frontline? I'd rather do that on dps.
>>
>>381085731
At that point, the WoL has slayed so much shit that I wasn't worried about a bunch of Ala Mhiggers and I expected to at least be able to stop Zenos by putting up a strong enough fight.

I knew we wouldn't kill Zenos at that point for in game reasons. But actually getting knocked on our asses was something I wasn't expecting. It felt kind of disheartening from a role-playing POV. I was expecting to save everyone because that was expected to show off our hero status as the WoL to the Ala Mhigans. But getting BTFO kind of hurt.
>>
>>381087790
>>381087916
That doesn't sound too bad. Maybe I'll pick it up if I'm in the mood for more grinding.
>>
>>381069014
bill burr monday morning podcast
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>>381088026
As the other anon said though, if you're doing anything before 55, be prepared to be really bored. Job is one of the ones that actually and truly get a lot better post 60.
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>tfw too stupid to understand how to play RDM
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>>381088135
damn that's REALLY stupid
>>
>Imperials show up
>Main characters hide
>The Imperials do some mean stuff
>Zoom in on Lyse's angry face
>Imperials leave
>Lyse acts like an obnoxious whore afterwards
After about the third time I'm getting sick of this shit
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so we don't get to fight him then?
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>>381088175
Lyse is by far the worst thing about the story. People only like her because the waifu factor.
>>
>>381083753
Wait, so where is Louisoix located?
I hope they're not trying to get Aussies to transfer to a Yurop cluster.
>>
>>381088135
>use spells to prod double cast to instant cast longer spells
>build up black and white mana
>melee combo
>backflip
>>
>>381087479
not him but I did. I even had a raging boner for Ishgard at first too. The grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side
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>>381088135
Me too, i just spam whatever's available
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>>381088135
How? It's so intuitive.
>>
>>381088221
You fight him in the Ala Mhigo dungeon (70) then again when he gets absorbed into Shinryu
>>
>>381079116
He does.
>>
>>381088135
It's a pretty simple rhythm my dude. And Dualcast gives you so much time to figure out what your next move should be, and to use your oGCD abilities.
>>
I WANT TO MARRY HYDAELYN
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>>381088251
Don't tell him to backflip or he'll be one of those retards who blackflip every time for no reason even if it throws them right into an aoe or off a cliff.
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>>381087120
You are past the hard jumps!
>>
Should I play Dragoon? Does everyone still hate DRG players?
>>
>when you see other RDMs using Jolt for instant verfire/verstone

How do they even get it wrong?
>>
>>381086601
Why don't you heal yourself you faggot. Quit being a greedy DPS whore like everyone else
>>
>tfw your RDM is so incompetent he just starts healing in the middle of a fight instead of DPSing and you don't even notice a difference
>>
>>381084413
???
Dude Assize
I just save up lilies for that
makes it possible to spam much more because I got more mana
>>
>>381084413
I just wish cleric stance was more than 5%. Why ever waste a slot on it?
>>
>>381088471

Loldrg is just a meme. You'll be fine (as long as you can do mechanics and not die)
>>
>>381088472
Sometimes I do that accidentally.
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>Scions all see the warrior of light get cucked by zenos repeatedly
>They chimp out at malnourished peasants living in refugee camps for not defeating the imperials.

I want lyse and yugiri dead, this isn't motivational, it isn't funny, its just embarassing and annoying
>>
RDM's big dick dps juice is built over about 30 seconds and you work toward it by using your skills correctly. This is MUCH more satisfying that the faggy buffs system where you're only allowed to *unsheathes dps* when the 90 second cooldown allows you to.
God what a great class all-around. It even managed to make combos nonlinear and mask the 2.5s GCD with dualcast and the 1.5s melee attacks too
>>
>>381088245
People liked Yda. Lyse have just been a disappointment
>>
>>381088509

That happened to me in Shisui...

>RDM takes damage
>prepare to heal him
>double vercure on himself

Why?
>>
>MSQ locked behind job level
>2.9 million exp away from next level
>only option is fate grinding or potd without 100% bonus
>DF for new dungeon is clogged to shit so you can grind it

i'll just play next month when people expansionfags stop playing the game
>>
>>381088554
You can't waste a slot on it even if you'd want to, 5 of the healer Role skills are mandatory and you only have 5 slots.
Thanks for making a bunch of fun skills I can never use SE.
>>
>>381088471
Most DRG players I see are on the higher end of the competency scale. It's mostly BRD that ends up being a high frequency of shitter
>>
>>381088507
Jokes on you fucker, I'm already in and out of the dungeon.
>>
>>381088357
>>381088323
>>381088287
>>381088251
>>381088173

I feel like it's a really interesting class to play thanks to the fact that you need to do pretty much everything
do they get their special stuff or do they share it with someone?
>>
>>381088652
>expecting fast queues as a dps
>>
>>381088652
Do some side quest. I've been doing mine and I never had to grind for anything. I've used my roulettes on my 2nd class.
>>
>>381088645
For me he was standing in an AOE healing the healer while the healer was trying to bring everyone up with AOE heals.
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>>381088724
>>
>>381088652
This is why you save your side quests.
>>
>>381088793
im saving sidequests for second job
>>
>>381088668
You've got one free slot. Protect, Lucid Dreaming, Swiftcast, and Largesse are mandatory.
>B-B-b-b-b-b-b-but Esuna!
Take it off your bar and then see how often you actually miss having it.

It's a shit system and Protect/Swiftcast/Esuna should be 'free' and not count toward your five, but there are only four that are truly mandatory.
>>
>>381088668
To be fair, things like break and the new cleric stance are pretty garbage. Surecast is incredibly situational so I won't miss it. Rescue is a meme ability to troll with and eye for an eye is a nice thing to have but ultimately not a big deal
>>
>>381088858
Are sidequests even affected by armory bonus? Isn't it better to use them on job 1?
>>
>>381088858
But you're just having to grind with your main job instead you dumbass.
>>
After playing for a while I feel WHM is really strong in 4 man content because the lilies work great there and you can actually generate them reliably.
In 8 man I need to rely more on group heals instead of single target heals so generating lilies is slower.
Sure I can play healthbar pingpong with cure 1 but I'd rather DPS.
If one of the AOE/group heals would generate lilies, I feel WHM would be pretty gud.

That said, with Thin Air, Lucid Dream and lilies cd reduced Assize, I basically never run out of mana and can shit out big heals or holy spam without running dry, even in raids if done correctly.
>>
>>381088084
just checkin in on yaaa
>>
>>381088905
>the REEE ESUNA shitter is back
fuck off retard
>>
>>381088929
>>381088941
im looking towards the future
>>
>>381088905
>wtf where's my doom cleanse!!???
And if you removed that person's heavy/disease/moogle-go-round they would've been able to run out of the aoe
some dots have retarded tick damage as well, but i guess you can trust an attentive caster to Erase them now
>>
>>381087551
>>381087138
>underaged WoWfags are too uncultured to know who Krile is
>>
is there a place where i can see the full sets from dungeons/crafts. I want to stop hording things if i don't need them
>>
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>>381088669
>Haven't seen a single other dragoon in a dungeon, just bards
>They always stay out of range of dragon sight
>When they do stand in range they break it immediately

I just want to share eyes.
>>
>>381086984
You do realize that a macro exists for this before Undraw was a thing right.
>>
Since I've resubbed, what should I change my big male Highlander into?
>>
How do I check my ping?
>>
>>381088905
>Largesse
why is that mandatory
>>
>>381089170
Whatever the fuck you want. People who don't have an opinion need to scuttle back to /xivg/
>>
>>381088652
Deal with it DPS shitter and enjoy your two brand new DPS jobs and PotD.
>>
>>381088591
I want your mum dead
>>
>>381089170
Stay Highlander. For Ala Mhigo.
>>
>>381088591
It's first world soldiers who are always ready to give their lives to stop the Empire not understanding how third world people could NOT want to fight to the death for freedom.
>>
>>381089170
a goon to a goblin
>>
>>381089051

>caring about a Lala

>ever
>>
>estinien
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>
>>381088669
Nothing will beat NINs on the shitter scale
>>
>>381089214
>be WHM
>use largesse
>HoT everyone
>double HoT tank
>don't need to heal whatsoever until both HoTs run out.
>>
Is there actually a decent amount of stuff referencing your class in this expansion?
>>
>>381087361
HIGH ON HIGH I STAND
>>
>>381089252
been playing DPS since 2.1 suck my ass
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>>381089465
There might be a number of SAM shit, but I can't tell you because I'm doing the MSQ with my HW main.
>>
>>381087234
I made 7+mil in the first few hours I logged in and then just fucked off since I already had a shitton of money and nothing I wanted to spend it on.
>>
>>381088905
>Largess and LD
>more importanr than Esuna
No. Largess is generally unnecessary, just nice for high end raids. LD is not needed for WHM because Assize now comes out in less than half the time, and Thin Air exists. So Protect, Esuna, and Swiftcast aee mandatory. Too bad the rest are worthless.

>a whole 5% damage up
>dude pull dps out of position lmao
>improved surecast is still never needed
>heavy ever having use
>>
>MSQ cutscenes in imperial garb
Heh
>>
I normally don't like slutglams but the Shisui gear looks pretty qt
>>
>>381089176
anyone?
>>
>>381088905
Am I not meant to get eye for an eye anymore?
>>
>>381088949
Assize is also base 30 sec instead of 60 sec.
>>
>>381089585
bet you've been queuing for dungeons most of that time too.
>>
>>381088135
try a duty instead of potd, you cant get a feel of the class when u spend half the time healing sams
>>
>>381089751
no it's base 60 instead of 90
3 lilies are a 12 second reduction
>>
>>381089359
Krile was a loli from V, Lalafel only exist in XIV.
>>
>>381088471
I get bullied all the time when i play DRG, it's part of playing the class.
>Die once
>loldrg sucks why is every drg garbage ect.
>>
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>>381089687
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>>381089460
Divine Seal was better. Thanks SE.
>>
>>381089821
Jesus, Lillies are fucking worthless.
>>
>>381089821
Ah, my mistake.

I wish we got fun stuff like in HW. Plenary Indulgence is the single moat useless thing ever put into an MMO.
>>
>>381089910
Pretty sure Divine Seal didn't last as long?
>>
>>381088998
You're not looking good enough. Sidequests don't gain armory bonus, but fates and potd do, so by doing sidequests on a second job, you're basically losing 1/3 of all the xp you're trying to grind
>>
>>381090096
30% for 15sec, as opposed to 20% for 15sec with Largess
>>
>>381089910
depends really
I'd argue in 8 man the increased duration is welcome.
In 4 man DS is definitely better, yes.

>>381089979
no?
We got a better shield out of it, that not only results of heal but is also instant.
Plus 12 seconds less isn't worthless by any means. Asylum gets reduced by 18 seconds for example.
I for one think it feels really good in 4 man content, where you actually get to use cure 1 and 2.
>>381090080
Hey at least we got thin air. We literally don't know what mana problems are anymore.
>>
>>381090276
>Largesse
>is actually smallesse
thanks yoshi
>>
I don't know how tanks have it, but healing is boring with painfully less mana, no cleric stance, removal of certain abilities etc.
Bring new dps classes which both are good and new, both being staple ff jobs.

I fear that so many healers will change classes. None of our fc scholars /whm is disappointed, med includes.
People that will stay as healer mains outside raiding will consist of the bad people that never dps and gave us a bad reputation.
Good times, se
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