Failstained Ritual of Failure

god that shit looks boring as fuck

>>381052094
Wow OP, you mean all those people that pledged because they wanted SotN with prettier graphics are getting exactly what they wanted? What an outrage!

>>381052094
I really hate that main character.

>>381052528
He could have evolved the gameplay, sotn's gameplay is outdated and sucks, and is the reason the game was so piss fucking easy

>>381052528
>thinking that looks better than sotn

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3doc-7v1X0

>boss is voiced in Japanese

where's the English dub?

It looks like SotN but the levels are scaled to 2x size while the movement speed and enemy counts are kept the same or less. The game looks slow and barren as a result.

i hope this is parody and you aren't actually trying to shill this here

>>381052094
Yeah OP. It plays exactly like SOTN. Everything I could have asked for, and they were even nice enough to add enemy souls for added collecting!

looks pretty good, looking forward to it

>>381053753
So you basically wanted sotn with shittier graphics and the same piss easy boring gameplay and shitty weak enemies?

>>381052094
>*teleports behind you* the game
Disgusting. Did you make that trash, OP?

>>381052094
>This was understandable when they worked with limited sprites, but there's no excuse with 3d modeling now.
This has nothing to do with whether it's 2D or 3D graphics, you're just talking out your ass and trying to sound smart.

>>381053995
What, the game with actual well done action combat, and not you spamming an attack with a single animation against enemies that don't fight back?

>>381054109
It does actually, back then they had barely any budget and were working with sprites, which are much harder to animate, so with those games easily having 100 enemies or more, it made sense they'd only have one attack or two and barely any animations. 3d modeling makes that way easier, yet the main character has no combos or animation variations on attacks, and the enemies are the same as they always were, fodder with maybe 1 or 2 attacks that just slowly and mindlessly walk around the halls. Its fucking garbage.

>>381054171
So you did. Develop some taste, manchild.

>>381052094
Thsi game looks legit boring, I don't know why people backed this.

>>381054462
I didn't make dishwasher samurai. One guy did it alone, and ironically he did way better gameplay than this shit backed by lots of people. Explain that.

>>381052743
>sotn's gameplay is outdated and sucks
And yet it's still widely praised as one of the best games ever. So maybe there's more to it than simplistic combat huh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TeRwbvdL9w

How this bloodstained game should play

>>381054703
It's praised due to the great spritework, music, and atmosphere/aesthetic. The gameplay sucked, mainly because the game was piss easy. Alucard moved stupidly fast and fluidly and had more attacks, while the enemies were all dumb, slow things that had maybe 2 attacks at most. In order to even have challenge you had to do no item runs, otherwise the game was a fucking joke.

>>381052094
I don't see the problem, personally.

Like, sure, it doesn't look like the BEST game ever made, but this really feels like some hard core TORtanic syndrome, where people are trying REALLY REALLY HARD to make sure this is the next Mighty Number 9.

Except, while MN9 was an actually terrible game, this is "just" a good game that probably won't live up to its overinflated expectations.

>>381055208
The problem is the game could be so much more, and has already been surpassed by indie games that didn't need kickstarters.

Metroidvania has always been quantity over quality. The fun of combat didn't come from the mechanics or expertly designed enemies/levels, it came from a large variety of spells/weapons/items you could use. It could be legit fun when combined with ridiculous stats like in the level 1 hard modes of the DS games.

Have you all tried NOT being whiney white boy?

>>381052094

>How the fuck is it in 2017 this style of combat is acceptable? It plays like fucking sotn for fuck sakes!
People spent two decades buying SotN clones. Games with less weapons, skills and worse sprites than SotN at that. IGA knows people will keep buying it, so he's making yet another one.

Also remember, IGA didn't make the gameplay in SotN. This is why his games never quite get it right.

>>381052743

"outdated"

it's one of the best games ever made, moron, it isn't outdated in fact it is still better than most games released now

>>381052528
Symphony of the Night has prettier graphics

>>381056142
Still piss fucking easy, you can literally kill bosses during their goddamn intros

then again you prolly love casual easy shit

>>381052094
>people backed Poopstained, Failtual of Shittiness
Hahahahaha

Hahahahahahahahaha

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

why is the main character dressed like a slut?

so how does iga explain the castle interior having a structurally unrealistic design? in castlevania it was because the castle was a creature of chaos and dracula's will, hence it changing so much and having nonsense rooms and halls. how will that be explained here?

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>>381057042

>he thinks IGA cares about story
This is a guy who works in his office every day while wearing a whip and fedora. He's not mentally stable. Let alone aware of design. He hires other people to do the design for him and sometimes gets lucky.

>>381057205
why was the Belmont weapon called a whip when it was actually a short chain with a spiked ball at the end?

>>381057042
In this game the castle was called out of Hell, so I assume what applied to the CV castles applies to this one as well.

>>381057643
Why would there be a castle just sitting there in Hell? Also which Hell is it, European Hell or Japanese Hell(Jigoku)? The design looks European, so I better not see any onis and tengus running around.

>>381052094
>Wow, the enemies are so easy in this tech demo that starts you at level 1, and low-tier weapons
Try harder, OP.

>>381057882
They were easy in ever single game iga's ever made though...

>>381057757
Why wouldn't there be a castle in hell? I mean the game is based off all the demons from those old grimoires, where the demons have titles like Baron and Duke, so maybe the castle belongs to some Duke or demon prince and the bad guy (Gebel) just took it.

I remember last year we got the E3 demo. Any news of people getting this year's demo too?

>That organ music in the castle

I need it

>>381058074
Sometime in August or September I think, they wanna polish it up and add some more stuff to it.

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So are they gonna use Dracula as the final boss since he's public domain? Or are we getting something new?

i read on wired that the E3 demo is easy on purpose for the sake of demostrations

>>381058061
Whoa whoa whoa, back it up beep! beep! beep! How do you just "take" a demon castle?

>>381052094

game doesn't look bad.

all they have to is speed the movement up.

>>381058304
the boss should be satan

>>381057482

Why did it start off as a traditional leather whip then upgrade to chain? The Castlevania designers just didn't care about story and canon back on the NES/SNES/Genesis. It was IGA who focused on story. Since he came off of working on Visual Novels.

>>381058413
By being some crazy crystal alchemist dude, I dunno. How the hell did Dracula take a chaos castle?

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>>381058304

>something new
>IGA
I wouldn't be surprised if most of the game is just slightly modified SotN assets. Just enough to keep from getting sued.

>/v/ hates "floaty" weapons without "weight" and "gravity"
>SotN and Bloodstained get a free pass

>>381058478
>all they have to is speed the movement up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcsxz3awKIQ

its literally SOTN speed, i dont think speeding it up further will improve much, that being said ive seen many attack moves that should make the combat feel faster, like flying kicks

>>381057205
>carries a whip
>never once did actual work on a classicvania or even an Indiana Jones game
What a goddamn poseur

>>381058304
I think so far the enemies are all based on the Goetia demons, so I guess the final boss will be one of the kings.

>>381058878

damn, that after-image trail really fooled me into thinking SotN was faster.

they should add it to bloodstained.

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>>381052094
do we have one of this castelvania theme?

>>381059132
It's called "start with the first and quit being a spoonfed faggot".

>>381059132
There would need to be two versions because Classicvania and Metroidvania are completely different beasts appealing to different people. I've tried for years to get into Classicvania and I just can't since I dislike the stiff movement and trial and error, but have loved every Metroidvania because I like the exploration and item changing aspects.

Metroid doesn't really have that because even Prime at its core is the exact same as the other games, it's just in a different perspective.

>>381058878
It's just the animations that makes it look slow. Once they improve it on that front then it wouldn't look so jarring

>>381056863
because it would add literally nothing to the game if she was dressed normally, duh

>>381058790
You're new to this shitposting thing, aren't you?

>>381052094
Game improves at 1.25 speed

>>381059485
Yes it would, who wants to stare at some girl's thighs all game?

>>381052094
>It plays like fucking sotn for fuck sakes!
Wait a minute. Isn't that what people wanted?

Did anyone take the belgrade or hayter tier to record a voice message? I understand belgrade but hayter looks pathetic nowadays

>>381059592
me

>>381052743

I have never once thought that SotN should be harder. The game is amazing as it is and the fun came from exploring the castle, finding new shit around every corner and breaking the game every way possible.

>>381058878
>Video proves that all of Alucards animation cycle speeds are faster

>>381059132
>Metroid Prime Pinball
>it's a pinball game
Fuck you, it's a really good pinball game. A lot of people don't seem to realize that pinball is a really easy genre to fuck up. Now, if you're not a fan of pinball then this isn't going to change your mind but this is one of the better pinball games out there. Even if you only slightly like pinball, it's a fun alternate version of the original Metroid Prime that's worth playing through at least once.

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>All these stretch goals
>Online multiplayer
>co-op
>David Hayter voice acting
>Vita port
>Roguelike dungeons

Absolutely no one wanted that shit

>>381052094
Man.

Cuhraaaaaaaazy faggots will just swallow any garbage as long as it's spazzy, won't they?

>>381060147
>No one wanted a Vita port
Speak for yourself.

>>381060478
Would you really want a Vita version? It'll probably be a worse version and take longer to make.

>>381060354
nah we just like combat with more variety and skill than "hit this button to do the exact same basic attack over and over"

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>>381052094
>It plays like fucking sotn for fuck sakes!

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>>381060147
>roguelike dungeons
>online multiplayer
>Vita port
I'm just glad these aren't the main focus. Really glad Iga is focusing on the base game first and all this extra shit second.

>>381060612
So hit this button to do a bunch of different looking attacks with no functional difference than if it'd been the same basic attack instead.

I gotcha. Shinies are everything.

>>381052094
>the year 2017 means that every 2D platformer has to be a character action game

>>381060612
Good for you, but why would you compare 2 completely different kind of games other than for shitposting sake?
No, wait, I already answered that question.

>>381060667
how about he focus on making combat not suck ass and giving enemies more attacks and movement?

>>381060754
>>381060715
So you seriously enjoy having only one goddamn attack on a weapon? Forget the "cuhrazaaaaaaay" stuff, you wouldn't even want dark souls combat in this game? That isn't crazy, but has lots of different attacks for variety, that serve a purpose. Why can't this game have dark souls combat then?

The only thing I can think of is aiming your hand for the attack spells. That's a welcome improvement.

381060880

>So you seriously enjoy having only one goddamn attack on a weapon?

yeah. i'm a simple man. why are you so bothered by it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUqKcBSx2-A

why cant it be like this in terms of combat gameplay?

>>381059939

>The pinball genre
my sides

>>381052743
Guess what happened when they try to evolve megaman?

>>381052094

>nostalgia bait is trendy right now
>the dude responsible for SotN sees this trend and sets out to make a game that plays like SotN
>"waah why does it play like SotN?"

You're a special brand of stupid OP, you know that?

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>>381052094
>complaining about the ease of a literal tutorial level

>>381061097
Mighty No 9 wasn't evolved, it sucked ass

and Megaman X series is evolved megaman and what a shock, it plays way way better than the old megaman games did

>>381060880
>Why can't this game have dark souls combat then?
Because it's not fucking dark souls and doesn't want to be it either, not to mention there's already a lot of souls-like games being released in the market already.
People expect Bloodstained to be as close as the post SOTN Castlevania as posible, and that's what they are getting so far.

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at x1.25 speed, especially at the boss fight. the game seems fine. they need to quicken things first.

>>381052094
Explain to me again why they couldn't go with 2d sprites? I know I said it was because of money but I simply cannot believe that 2d sprites are dearer than 3d models.

Also please tell me that the OST isn't ready yet and that it's not that the game will be that awkwardly silent the whole time

>>381061192
Don't reply to bait. Just ignore them

>>381061168
Yes but that branch was already made and what they promised was classic Megaman not X so they have to branch out from classics again.

>>381061192
but post sotn castlevania games sucked for the most part

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>>381052094
>boring, linear grind fest
>low t. combat
>no character creation / customisation / roster
>no co-op

>>381061168

Plays better but the level design is less compelling and I say that as someone whose first Megaman was X4. X is considerably easier than the classic games save for X6.

>>381052094
>Let's forget about how shitty the graphics are,

The environments are a bit plain, yeah.

>or the character designs,

I like the character designs.

>How the fuck is it in 2017 this style of combat is acceptable? It plays like fucking sotn for fuck sakes!

Most people like SotN though.

>This is how this game's gameplay and combat should be like, take notes Iga:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VahYGGTYnVw [Embed]

What in the acutal fuck is this? Why is the camera covered in blood and zooming in randomly? That's distracting. Whatever this is, it looks like total trash for 12 year olds.

>SOTN has boring gameplay

sure is summer in here

>>381052528
>prettier graphics

lol no. This game's artstyle looks all over the place design-wise. It can't decide if it wants to be dark and serious or bright and cartoony.

>>381052094
I just watch the gameplay video at 240p and somehow the game looks better. At least it looks like a smooth 3DS game.

>>381061476
X6 had great level design, gotta give it credit for that

It looks ok, I hope they speed it up, that would help a lot,

>>381058304

It's a new universe and storyline. Rehashing Dracula would be boring. It's some other guy that Miriam has to confront to end her glass stained aids.

>>381061517
>he thinks this shit is good gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1OURX9hKrw

>>381061247
>Not a lot of sprite artist these days
>Creating pixel art for HD consoles is a bitch
>Costs too much money

Imagine making HD pixel art MCs, cutscenes, and enemies and levels. That's too much work and they can't do it indie style. In a perfect world it would've been possible but sadly it's not.

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>>381061591

It knew how to throw a curveball but some of it was flat out poorly conceived like 90% of Blaze Heatnix's stage or pic related. Still, I do personally think it's worth playing at least once despite its reputation.

>>381061729

he?

>>381061729
>cherrypicking

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If you have any suggestions/questions, you can tweet them to Shutaro Iida, the game's director. Next update he will answer them. Include the following for them to notice it:

@Swordorwhip #AskCurry

Very few are taking advantage of this

https://twitter.com/hashtag/askcurry?f=tweets&vertical=default

>>381061729
Man, I should replay this game. Didn't know there was thunder healing armor

How to fix this game:

>make the character badass looking and not some waifu shit
>make the gameplay like dark souls mixed with ninja gaiden(the 3d games not the old arcade ones)
>give enemies multiple attacks and some can even have combos
>make the enviroments for grimdark and fucked up looking(corpses laying about, blood stained walls, demons slaughtering people in the background, rapes, etc)
>make the music metal as fuck mixed with dark ambient for atmosphere

>>381061885
There's already one autist asking too many questions and I'm scared of acting autist myself but I wanted to ask if there will be an "inverted castle" scenario or completely new areas

>>381052094

second game looks like shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KJE-AiBDwo

such skillful and challenging gameplay!

>>381052094
see, this just goes to show you're a casual who doesn't even understand what made SotN great.
it's primarily the exploration and discovering new areas, new enemies, new weapons and armor, new secrets and so on that makes you keep going. this is true for most metroidvanias.

as for the combat, again, the fun wasn't in executing sick DmC combos, but experimenting with each new weapon to see what it's gimmick was, if it's attack animation was different, or if it had some sort of synergy with some other gear like the shield rod, or some kind of unique special attack. this is why you had a high number of weapons to find and collect from drops. same goes for the likes of enemy souls in aria and so on. sure, adding some combo system or more moves in general to combat, and putting weapons in classes by weight or so on can be a nice bonus and add variety but it's just that, a bonus and as long as you have the basis i explained earlier it should be good.

difficulty-wise, i honestly don't see many people complaining about it. in fact i think they like how ridiculously OP you can become with certain combinations. if you want hard go play ghosts and goblins/ghouls (there's even a psp remake) and get your shit wrecked every 5 minutes. sometimes people just want to get a cool-ass sword and mow down enemies as they explore a big castle full of secrets, or they just want to soul steal a full room to death. if you really difficulty just make a hard mode in which enemies deal double damage or something

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>>381062005
Just do it, man. I'm gonna fire my question out there tomorrow about making the animations faster.

I wish they updated the game a bit. It's been 20 years since SotN, and 10 since Ecclessia, so there's been some updates.

>character creation (optional)
>fashion dictated by equipment
>pick starting class and weapons
>choose your build and stat allocation
>equitable healing items instead of menu healing
>healing items reset at saves (allows for proper balance, as you know the player always has a set number of heals, and prevents stocking up on potions and spamming them to win)

The Souls games and Momodora 4 use these.

>>381062071
I played it, it isn't shit. better gameplay and better looking backgrounds, the character design isn't that good, I agree there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb_a59FT5iw

what a fucking joke

>>381062081

Good call dude the gameplay sucks because everyone was an expert at the game from the start and knew exactly the optimal combo of items to use

>>381062162

Make sure to frame it as a question, rather than a statement.

>>381062005

Do it. I don't have a twitter myself.

>>381062089
>see, this just goes to show you're a casual who doesn't even understand what made SotN great.it's primarily the exploration and discovering new areas, new enemies, new weapons and armor, new secrets and so on that makes you keep going. this is true for most metroidvanias.


But dark souls already does that but better
From Software evolved the metroidvania genre, Iga needs to step it up

>>381062231

thats better gameplay to you? ok buddy, this is the wrong topic for you then I guess

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>>381062231
>>381062081
>complaining that gameplay from a mode intended to be completed as quickly as possible is being completed as quickly as possible

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>>381062081 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfkJpzBoJ-M

>>381062162
>>381062294
Alright I'll ask him about it then. Might as well use this to give feedback while we have the chance

>>381052094
People are now realizing a direct sequel to SOTN plays like SOTN and saying that's bad because SOTN is suddenly considered 'outdated'. We are through the looking glass here people.

It seems to me that what makes this boring is the clunkiness of Miriam's movement and the lack of enemies. Classicvania and Metroidvania usually are bursting with personality and a whole lot to do per screen. In here we barely get 1 enemy every 3 screens.

It's going to be the same shit as Yookalayle. People blinded by nostalgia will refund the game as soon as they realize SOTN isn't the best game ever made.

>>381061912
>Keep Miriam but give her a goddamn personality
>Ninja gaiden arcade/Guacameele combat
>I agree.
>I totally agree.
>I agree again. Though I would love something like SOTN ost, this game should have its own identity.
>Make animations have more weight to it
>Better SFX, there's barely any
>More emphasis on main ground and higher contrast in pallet colours. Everything seems so fucking gray except Miriam's skirt.

>>381062340
you know, when baiting try to drop more than a single name/series. your constant spam of Souls make it too obvious.you need to be subtle.

>>381052094
>a shitty flash game with 0 challenge
Well, it's ok to have shit taste.

1. game looks okay so far.

2. Fan mods will be a thing.

3. Sequels will improve upon it.

4. I want this series to survive long enough that we get a Platinum exploration/action game in full 3D.

>>381061912
>>381062834
why don't you people stop shitting up threads on /v/ and go play DmC, Ninja Gaiden, Dark Souls and so on?

Let's just completely disregard that backers have had access to a playable demo already, and know how the game actually plays, as opposed to just watching videos on youtube.

Let's just insist that it will fail because we want to crow about it on /v/.

>>381063146

New demo in August btw.

>>381052094
>le teleporting edgy swordman XD
mind you, bloodstained looks boring af, but that game doesn't look any better

They're aiming for 1600 squares.

Sotn was 1800+.

FAILURE

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>>381063115
>Fan mods will be a thing
>tfw we can change how Miriam look

Can't wait for succubus or belmont Miriam

>>381063286
Great, and I hope we can discuss that without the fucking "it looks bad" crowd once we get it

>>381063487
>Can't wait for succubus or belmont Miriam

Screw that. I want Shanoa in full HD.

btw, Konami were fools for burying the handheld series. I feel that Shanoa could have been the start to its own mini-series with great success.

>>381052094
liking autism combos.......

>>381063829
>I want Shanoa in full HD.

Alright, you got me there.

>tfw Iga wanted to make a direct sequel to OoE but Konami refused

I didn't feel satisfied by the ending and I will never get the fucking conclusion that I wanted. Though sales were lackluster on it from what I heard

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>>381061912
>rapes

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cant' tell if OP is sincere or retarded.

Everything is exactly like Castlevania. Konami should just sue this hack. Actually I can't understand why they haven't sued him yet.

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Hello, I am here again to post pictures of a porn parody but not post links.
Alright, see you around, guys!

>>381065908
sincerely retarded

>>381059132
>Metroid Prime Pinball is a pinball game.
I laughed