WHICH OF THESE GAMES WILL GET GOTY? WHICH IS BETTER?

>>381041908
Zelda. Persona is weebshit

Persona. Zelda is open world meme

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>>381041908
>Persona 5
>GOTY

>>381041973
This, probably. From any Western outlet, anything instantly recognizable from a Nintendo standpoint that does even remotely well will generally be on GOTY lists. Persona 5 might receive a couple mentions, but reviewers and outlets will largely state Zelda as GOTY because of its appeal on reviewers nostalgia.
Persona barely became relevant maybe 5 years ago. Western audiences don't give enough of a shit. Damn shame too, I like Persona way more.

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Loved both, but only one game lets me do this.

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I personally prefer nioh, although persona have been pretty good thus far. Between both zelda will probably get it though

>>381042176
You shouldn't care what journos say. They've played fewer games than you have, and are worse at them too.

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>>381041908
Nier: Automata

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>>381042152
Look at this. This was on the Zelda BotW board.

Zelda BTFO

>>381041908
only weebs play persona
everyone and their mom plays zelda

In Zelda, there's no cat telling me to go to sleep.
Zelda is better and will win GOTY.

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>>381041908

>>381042373
>This was on the Zelda BotW board.

Post the gamefaqs link, if you have it

>>381042473
That was probably the only negative I had with Persona 5. Then again, it was my first Persona game and I heard that is a staple of the series (losing several days to story).

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>>381042373
Why don't you use a bigger sample, faggot?

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>>381042717
DELETE THIS

>>381042373
>>381042717

BTFO

>>381042680
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/189707-the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild/75211970

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>>381042373
>>381042717

NOOOOOOOOO DELETE THIS

>>381042717
>Nier below Persona

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>>381042714
The game is designed around the allotted time you have, I don't really see the problem.

>>381042973
Why wouldn't it be? It's nowhere near as good of a game.

>>381042373
BotW is losing by 2.

Do you really think that means something on a random page of Gamefaqs when >>381042863 is on the front page

>>381041908
Zelda will GOTY, but Persona is still better.

>>381042863
>look at thread
>thread gets raided by posters from the persona board

are you for real?

>>381042717
this seems like a better poll

>>381043012
While it is designed around this, after 3 games it gets annoying. I hope they use a different system for persona 6.

>>381042973
Persona is normalfag as fuck now, even moreso than Nier is. Tell me when you see "Funny Nier Memes YLYL Compilation" on your Youtube recommendations list.

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>>381041973
>Zelda
>not weebshit

>>381042273
that looks dumb

>>381042717
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>381042717
WHY IS ZELDA BEATING HORIZON

>>381043389
because nintenbros need to justify their purchases at all times instead of playing the game they love so much

>>381043389
Why is Zelda winning at all? It's an overrated game. 7 AT BEST.

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>>381043389
Because Zelda has better and more consistent physics.

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>>381042717

D-DELETE THIS

IT CAN'T BE

>>381043389
Because Horizon is shit and Zelda isn't.

>>381043389
cause horizon was horseshit aside from the graphics. I played maybe 10 hours of it before deleting it from my hdd with no intention of ever revisiting it. meanwhile, i borrowed my mates wii u and put over 100hrs in to zelda.
the two aren't even comparible.

still think automata is goty tho

>>381043536
If BotW is a 7, than Persona 5 is a 4 or 5.

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>>381043637
Haven't seen that edit before.

>>381043763
>still think automata is goty tho
Shit taste confirmed.

>>381043948
you're a fucking fool if you think automata is shit m8

>>381043803
>if BotW is a 4 or 5, then Persona 5 is a 20
FTFY - BotW was actually really good, but there are only a handful of games that can compete with Persona 5.

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>>381041908

>>381041908

Zelda will get GOTY but Persona 5 deserves GOTY.

Itll be Mario, reviewers and gamers are retarded and forget what came out before september

>>381041908
Probably Mario Odyssey
it will be fresh in peoples minds
and there's no way it could be worse than BOTW

>>381044058
Nier is overrated dogshit with mediocre gameplay and a bland story. You probably only think it's GotY because you're a waifufaggot obsessed with 2B's ass.

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>>381044059
Is BioShock Infinite one of them?

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>>381041908
I'm a nintendofag. I bought BOTW for wii u. I loved every bit of it. Last week I bought a ps4 and persona 5. I think Persona 5 might deserve it just a...little...more...

>>381044059
>SMT for weebs and retards
>good

Also P3>P5>P4

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games of the year will be BotW > xenoblade 2 > persona 5, nothing else will come close unless the metroid 2 remake has a lot of new content

inb4 neirfags and westerncucks

>>381044059
>he thinks P5 is nearly that good
You can go jack off to your glorified VN somewhere else.

>>381044206
bland story lmao nice bait. why don't you go back to playing fallout & ass creed ya simple minded faggot

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>>381041908
My top two games of the year thus far. It would be delusional though to think Zelda won't win GOTY on almost every site. Persona is great but these things are done by a vote by all the "journalists" at these websites and I doubt anybody other than the person they picked to review Persona has even touched the game.

>>381044447
Not him but the first Nier's story and characters destroy Automata's, the game's best moments were from the Emil side quests because of all the references to the first one.

>>381044447
Nier A has a shit story you fag. Stop thinking with your dick.

What makes P5 so good?

Cuz I keep hearing how the story, script, and characters suck balls and the gameplay peaked in P4 Golden

>>381042717
wtf i love zelda now

>>381041908
Persona 5 is the better game, but between the two BoTW would more likely of the two to win GOTY. GOTY award will be between BoTW, Shadow of War, Horizon, and Mass Effect Andromeda

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>>381044809
Puzzles.

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Why fight?

Some western movie game will probably win GOTY. Just be glad you all got to play these two great and highly awaited games during the same year.

>>381044809
Waifufags. Artstyle and music is pretty good though.

>>381044630
i didn't say the first one didn't have a better story. but to call automata's story bland, especially in the current gaming climate, is objectively wrong
>>381044709
what game this year has a better story than automata? do tell. the contrarian faggotry on this board is astounding

>>381044809
The only people who think Persona 5 is that good are deluded sonyggérs or VN obsessed weeaboo's

>>381044216
>literally the first "puzzle" in the game

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Honestly Persona 5 loses a lot of steam during the Okumura stuff, especially when they're in Hawaii. The game goes from a 9/10 to a 7/10 and flip-flops between the two throughout the course of the story.

>>381044809
Persona 5 is the peak of Persona gameplay, but the characters in Persona 4 actually felt more like your friends than in Persona 5.

>>381044952
But it is bland. I don't see why this is making you so butthurt. Are you an ass blasted tarofag or something?

>>381041908
BotW for me unless Mario Odyssey turns out to be as good as it looks.

I don't really like P5. It makes me miss P3. I'm not really connecting with any of these characters or the situation. The main party is kind of dumb and they don't really feel like people who would hang out with each other, and the fact that they're basically fighting for vanity is off-putting. Then nearly every social link is resolved by brainwashing some cartoonishly evil jerks so that people you like don't have to deal with their own problems.

I stopped playing at the Hawaii trip and I really don't feel the motivation to get back into it.

>>381044952
Any game that actually had the story contained in the game itself.

the one with the cute kissable cat

>>381045010
The friends of P4 are kinda shitty though.

No rational person would suck dick as much as the P4 sucks the MC's dick, and that feels more cheap and artificial than anything else.

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>>381045231
agreed

>>381045217
Not him, but care to explain what was left out? Only thing I can think of is the identity of the creators of YoRHa. Everything else is explained within the game to some extent, just expanded more within side materials.

What makes BotW so good?

>Nothing else but shrines and Korok seeds to find
>enemy weapons don't scale with their level making them a waste of time
>shit side quest
>bad framerate
>copy paste ""dungeons""
>awful final boss

All you cunts forgetting that Mario Odysse will be voted as GotY because
a) it will probably be pretty good
b) reviewers suck the dick of Mario like no tomorrow

>>381045340
What 2B and 9S's relationship actually is. That's the core of the entire story and it's completely misused as a plot-twist at the end. The game loses so much of the poignancy it could've had.

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>>381045313
P4 felt like it had less useless characters in the main party. Chie and Yukiko were the main two that stopped being relevant halfway through the story, but like half the cast of P5 stops being relevant after their dungeon is complete. Morgana is way fucking better than Teddie though.

>>381045463
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW

>>381042338
pfffffffff hahahahaha
no

>>381045463
it doesnt hand hold you like the games have done for the past decade, but thats basically its only redeeming quality. If it had the handholding that SS had it would easily be the worst in the series

>>381045590
I didn't even pay attention to that until I replayed the game. I think you just spend too much time with shippers or w/e. And I think it's fine for what it was, explains much of 2B's behavior throughout Route A/B.

>>381045591
>but like half the cast of P5 stops being relevant after their dungeon is complete.
Joker, Futaba, Morgana, Goro and to lesser extent Makoto are the only relevant characters, the rest could not exist and the game would proceed the exact same.

Also how was Kanji relevant in 4 past his arc, I honestly don't remember if he was or not.

>>381045463
>Bad framerate
Not anymore. I've yet to seen it drop since the updates.

>>381045010
I thought P4 also handled it poorly because everyone is instantly on your dick.

Although P5 really didn't do it well either. Most of them are initailly antagonistic to you, but then as soon as they awaken, it's like you've been buddies forever. It's really jarring after Yusuke and especially Makoto try to blackmail you.

My only issue with BotW on a technical level is the pop-in. God damn there's a lot of it.

>>381041973
I have a question for you. Why are all Nintendo fans ignorant children or blind pedophile cucks?

Hear me out. Nintendo objectively hasn't had a "must have" console since the Gamecube. The best Nintendo game in years has been BotW which is mediocre at best. The consoles and controllers are designed to look like Fisher-Price toys and any porn of the characters always involves the heros getting cucked by the villains(Bowser and Peach, Zelda and Ganon/dorf) or sexualized children like Splatoon or sheer amount of bestiality.

Instead of providing a counterpoint you will just say I'm a Sonybro or Xboner fanboy. I own every console in existence besides the Switch and I have only played on PC for the last year.

>>381045945
What open world game doesnt have pop in?

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>>381041908
Most certainly BotW, on account of it being motherfucking Zelda. Both games are good though.

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P5 is better no contest. Literally the best JRPG every made

>>381042273
Gary's Mod?

>>381041908
I've played much much more Zelda than p5, and I even had to pick up a ps3 specifically for it. If there was a fem mc is Persona 5 this would be a lot harder for me to decide.

>>381046047
>Persona
>fanbase filled with people who sexualize teenage girls
>somehow less pedo than Zelda

IIRC, Zelda in BOTW is hundreds of years old.

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Persona is a very good entry in a series of JRPGs that very popular and I'd say with good reason. Persona 5 is a great game.

But Breath of the Wild is a Mario 64 level gamechanger, just with emergent gameplay instead of 3D movement.
If this was any old Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, or Skyward Sword style OOT clone Persona 5 could blow it out of the water. But it's a LOT more than that.
Unless another game this year manages to fundamentally change how we look at and approach game design like BOTW did it's literally no contest for GOTY. Breath of the Wild. Persona 5 could literally be the best JRPG ever but it's working on already treaded territory, BOTW showed us something new.

>>381046069
Just because most console shit open world games have pop-in doesn't mean it's not a valid complaint.

>>381045774
It's not about shipping, the entire setting of the game is predicated on 2B and 9S having this tragic love where 2B has to kill 9S forever, extending all the way back to their predecessors at the founding of YorHa.

>>381045867
He only yelled and chimped out through the story events.

He was a bro, but he didn't help much.

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>>381041908
>implying WA HA HA isn't goty

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>>381045591
Wrong

Teddie makes a good trap

Better than that shitty cat

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Knack 2 will get GOTY.

BotW will get GOTY. The marketing was very successful, it was a launch title for a quite successfully marketed Nintendo home console, and I'm sure many people had "unique" stories to tell their friends about their adventures in the open world, regardless of how shallow some may perceive the content to be. Basically, it's an easy game to talk about, so word spreads easily. It's a popular game.

That said, I appreciate how Persona 5 embraced its history and did what I thought to be a great job at improving and combining features from older SMT games, and improving on the Persona formula in general. I have a lot of respect for what the game has accomplished, but I don't feel like people new to the series have the opportunity to appreciate that. That isn't to say you can't appreciate Persona 5 without having played the old games, but I do feel like a lot of my love for the game comes from that.

On the contrary, I feel like Breath of the Wild was a huge departure from the Legend of Zelda series. I went in with a lot of expectations, and came out massively disappointed. I really do think I would have liked the game a bit more if I didn't go in expecting a Legend of Zelda experience, but players not familiar with the series history will not be bothered by this at all.

Overall, I was let down by the lack of tangible content in Breath of the Wild. Meanwhile, I'm halfway through my second run in Persona 5 - I really think they hit the nail on the head with the combat mechanics in this one, and the slice of life content, while obviously will be a complete hit or miss in general with everyone, works for me. That said, I'm sure more people will prefer Breath of the Wild, so be it.

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>>381045313
Chad Narukami is not an emo manlet loner or Potter who everyone thinks is criminal scum.

>>381046470
Morgana is better than Teddia just for being in Persona 5. Persona 4 fucking sucks and doesn't feel like an ATLUS RPG. Game is so shit that it split the Persona fanbase and the SMT one. Luckily P5 is good enough to bring them back together.

Yakuza 0

>>381041908
P5 was good but just felt too damn long. was a slog by the end with the four part final mementos dungeon. i'd pick zeld0r

>>381046635
Potter is also Lelouch. Cruel and cynical men get farther in life than shitty Chads.

>>381046684
It split in P3 since P3 sucks.

more people know the existence of zelda

>>381046780
Eh, I felt bored by Yakuza 0. Hearing bad things about 6 also keeps me from wanting to invest in the series.

>>381046684
P5 feels exactly like P4. Neither of them are anywhere near as good as P3.

>>381045472
Then why did Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 lost GOTY to some movie games?

>Waifu Simulator vs An Actual Game

I'll take Breath of the Wild thank you.

>>381042815
delete that

>>381041908
Zelda
Because it's Zelda

>>381047101
Plus the actual game has better waifus anyway.

>>381046969
sorry for your shit taste

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Leave Persona 5 to me.

>>381047046
They did? Galaxy 2 is literally the best 3D platformer, the fuck did it lose to?

>>381041908
Why is Ann doing a mid air splits?

>>381044265
>...

Back to Redit with you

>>381044345
this mother fucker knows whats up
but p5 has better girls

I don't understand the appeal of Persona. My only experience with SMT is IV and Apocalypse, so I'm not gonna act like a big SMT fan, but P5 feels so boring imo. Characters are one note anime tropes, plot is extremely predictable (you would have to have actual brain damage to not immediately know that Akechi was the traitor), and the game is way too fucking long. Judging from the threads here, it seems most people are into it because of the waifu sim elements.

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>>381046624
Out of all the different sides on BOTW the one I absolutely respect the least are the people who were upset that it wasn't the 4th OOT clone after Skyward Sword. The departure from Zelda conventions was one of the things that made BOTW so amazing in gameplay and story.

>>381041908
I loved both, but neither if we're being completely realistic.

>>381044809
>gameplay peaked in P4 Golden
whoever thinks this is actually brain dead

>>381041908
I'd rather have Mario Odyssey be the GOTY. This year was filled with so many good games, and the big comeback of platformers makes this year a memorable one.

>Crash Trilogy
>Sonic Mania
>Sonic Forces: Coldsteel Simulator
>Might Gunvolt Burst
>Metroid: Samus Returns
>Complete version of Shovel Knight
>Master Blaster Zero

If Mario Odyssey becomes THE game of 2017, then platformers will once again become a leading genre for video games. I'm sick of generic Ubisoft and EA games being the leading titles of gaming. That Mexican ass nigga Mario has to win it for the platformers.

>>381047480
Some people just want the same shit over and over again with a shinier coat of paint. Hence all the P5 fans in this thread.

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>>381046780
>Want to try this series
>That fucking Yazkuza 1+2 HD version for WiiU never came to America
>Pretty sure there isn't a way to add translations on the WiiU
I want to fucking try this series. It looks great.

>>381047376
The fans are lonely virgins who want women to worship and fuck them. Atlus gives them what they want and they worship the game for it. The same shit happened with Fire Emblem.

>>381044362
Be glad we're getting Xenoblade 2 and Persona 5. Two good console JRPGs that aren't ports or remasters in a single year is an anomaly.

>>381047796
well P5 is really 2016

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>>381047558
>MFW Mario Odyssey looks like it's going to effectively do what BotW did to open world games to 3d platformers, totally revolutionize the mechanics
I could be wrong but the abilities we've seen from Mario look to easily be BotW level gamechangers.

>>381047238
Uncharted 2.

Although Galaxy 1 did pretty well in most sites and magazines.

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>>381047930
Odyssey does look pretty unique to say the least, not sure what they can really do to change 3D platforming though since they've been the kings of it since Super Mario 64 launched.

>>381047543
Gameplay peaked in Persona 1 which has the best dungeons. P1 dungeons > palaces

>>381047917
Not for the vast majority of westeners.

>>381042717
>there are more zelda fanboys than persona
Wow, surprise.

>>381048080
I've never seen a wronger opinion in my life.

>>381041908

I liked BOTW a lot more. I'm going to sound like a goddamn hipster, but after finally playing the Persona series last year from 1-5, I think modern Personas are really overrated.

>>381048129
Still 2016.

>>381048080
>Persona 1 which has the best dungeons
Persona 1 has worse dungeons than 3, which is saying a lot because 3's was abymssal. Persona 1 fags have no taste

>>381048238
It has the most types of elements. Gravity, ect. Basically the most depth. And actual guns and not bb guns.


Prove me wrong anon

>>381048426
The only release date that matters is the western one

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>>381048043
>they've been the kings of it since Super Mario 64 launched
>The first 3D platformer that taught everybody else how to do it is the absolute best because of this and because a bunch of jank in the controls created accidentally insanely deep gameplay
I hate this opinion so much.
Don't fucking kid yourself. A ton of 3D platformers surpassed Mario 64 in it's own series, and that generation, let alone in general.
It's a great game but it's not infallible or perfect.

>>381041908
>WHICH OF THESE GAMES WILL GET GOTY?
Zelda of course, zelda is the definition of "must recieve a 10/10 or fanboys will be angry at journalism / cause member the 90's xD?
>WHICH IS BETTER?
persona of course

>>381048665
>Reading comprehension
I said since, meaning that they have continually been the kings not that 64 is the best, Galaxy 2 is better.

>>381048814
Im an autist disregard me.

Also Mario 3d Land and World are my favorite games so everybody would do that anyway.

>>381046304
I keep hearing BotW is revolutionary, but it just seems like every other open world game except with no map markers and the ability to climb almost anything and glide

>>381048689
>glorified VN dating sim
>better than an actual game

>>381048539
It has the most elements but all elemental exploitation does is deal slightly more damage and everything is resistant and weak to five different elements and nuclear is best anyways so who cares. That's not depth.

>>381049146
>board full of betas whining about no gf
>Surprised when a girlfriend simulator is their game of the year

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>>381041908
Even /v/'s own awards fall for the open world meme every year. And when they can't, they always vote Nintendo.

Persona doesn't even have a chance with the audiences that respect weebshit.

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>WHICH OF THESE GAMES WILL GET GOTY?
Breath of the Wild
>WHICH IS BETTER?
Breath of the Wild
That being said, that's just because BOTW is one of the best games ever made, and it's not an insult towards Persona 5.

>>381049146
Does Zelda count as a game when there's no meaningful structure, just mindlessly wandering to collect seeds and complete shrines that have no relation to one another?

>>381049432
>no meaningful structure
>literally the first quest you get in the game is about your goal
>every action you take furthers you towards that goal
okay, friendo

>>381049121
One sec I'm typing shit out

>>381041908

This is a tight race honestly. Both blew me away in different ways. They're both masterpieces in their respective genres but since Zelda is obviously more popular I'll root for Persona 5.

Also I find it funny that the latest Persona legit has better dungeons than the latest Zelda. What kind of bizarro world did I step in?

>Play Breath of the Wild

>A. Like the game
>Spend 200 hours fucking around in it

>B. Don't like the game
>Go to Hyrule Castle, the best part of the game, and beat the game in like 45 minutes

Perfect design.

>>381049432
>t. hasn't played BotW and is just parroting whatever the /v/ hivemind has been proclaiming for several months

I always knew Personafags were the biggest shitposters.

>>381050370
>best part of the game
the plateau is the best part though and it forces you to play it. Everything after is just down hill. There might be some shrines that stand out, but for the most part its a grind.

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Friendly reminder there's at least $4000/mo. in Patreon money waiting for you should you decide to tear BOTW apart feature-by-feature on Youtube.

Also trolls and angry Nintendies to laugh at.

>>381049121
It's ridiculously interactive, not just with the player, but also between elements in the game. To the point where damn near everything feels like a natural consequence of systems interacting wtih systems. If you think something should work, it probably does, and it does so in a way that doesn't feel janky.

It honestly raised my expectations for how games should behave. BotW is like Todd Howard's bullshit Oblivion E3 demo from way back when if it were an actual game. From now on, every open world game where I can't shoot an apple off a tree and watch it roll into a river that ends up luring a fish to the surface to come eat it, I'll be disappointed.

Of those choices, Zelda

Person has always been shit

botw hands down

purse owner dungeons are garbage and the girls are lackluster, it could have competed if it wasn't like this.

>>381041908

Persona 5. Nobody ever saw this game coming.

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>>381049186
Still better than p5s combat.

Inb4 muh baton pass

>>381051156
Why is it that Personafags can only spew memes and waifufaggotry when talking about their games?

>>381041908
Persona

I was excited for Zelda but by the end of it, I was a little disappointed. I bought Persona on a whim, having never played the serious before, and then I played through the whole game 3 times in a row. Sogud

>>381051256
it's all they have

>>381042973
Of course it is, Persona is a normal fag series now. The LGBTQ community in particular likes the franchise.

>>381051323
>normalfag series
>only shipped 1.5 million including sales
Persona isn't nearly as popular as you faggots say it is.

>>381042714

>Then again, it was my first Persona game and I heard that is a staple of the series (losing several days to story).

It is with 3 and up. In the first two games you just run around the city, going through office buildings, CD stores, subways, alternate dimensions, an alien spaceship, etc and beat up demons.

>>381051396
Persona 5*

>>381044059
Either you never played BotW or you spend way too much time jerking it to 2D.

>>381041908
>WHICH OF THESE GAMES WILL GET GOTY?
Zelda, if only because it's acquired that franchise status of automatic GOTY nomination each time.

>WHICH IS BETTER?
Persona 5 obviously.

>>381051323
Weren't they up in arms though about those two guys you see on the beach/in Shinjuku

>>381042714
In 3 and 4 you do get blocked from going out sometimes as your character is too tired, but it's more like the character himself just thinking it, which is better than an obnoxious cat telling you to sleep.

>>381042717
>Yakuza 0 that low
Upsetting.

>>381051964
Also they didn't pointlessly put you back in your room when you couldn't do anything.

>>381050969
>It's ridiculously interactive, not just with the player, but also between elements in the game.

That's always been true of Zelda compared to basically every other game though. Zelda is just better at this than everything else and it's what distinguishes the series from all other pretenders.

>>381047480
>it wasn't the 4th OOT clone after Skyward Sword

But, while I've yet to play BotW myself, part of what's been so weak about the series since the 64 games is how closed off, linear and unwilling to experiment it is. BotW seems to be more in the spirit of OoT and LoZ than most of what came about between those two.

>>381044809
Art style and music are god tier.

I liked the themes touched by the plot, pretty good.

Everything else is inexcusable unless you're clinically weeaboo.

>>381049121
>>381049121
Botw did a few key things in my opinion
1. Nintendo made traveling the world a lot of fun
There's:
>Climbing, it's really satisfying looking up at a towering peak, cliff, or mountain in this game and knowing that you can scale literally every single part of it, no meme. Is a bit slow though.
>Gliding works as a payoff to climbing a lot of the time, and it's also just fun to have a massive height between you and the ground and not die, revali's gale get's added on and makes using gliding in the world (and combat) even more fun
>Shield surfing is honestly just one of the most fun mechanics ever introduced to the open world genre
>Horses, but also horse mechanics like stats and stables and the horse god to flesh it out more than paying 1000 gold or stealing one at whiterun at the start of the game
>Exotic mounts on top of the horses
In the world you can run into all sorts of shit, assasins, people in need of your help, monster camps, mini-bosses, whatever, everyone already knows this. But in any open world game by nature, be design, you will not always be running into them. Instead of Nintendo giving you a bunch of waypoints to tell you where they are they decided to make the downtime more fun.
1/3

>>381051256

Was I wrong though? This and Nier kind of came out of nowhere for most people.

>>381052557
>Music
>God tier
Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guHUyQISzSY

>>381052750
2. The word "organic" gets thrown around a as a meme to sound intelligent while praising the game. HOWEVER, I can't think of a better word to describe the way that the gameplay mechanics are executed in the game.
Breath of the Wild has as much gameplay as they could manage happen without the use of menus.
Shrines, the main goal of exploration, are easily identifiable in the world. Easily spotted, and if you can see a shrine you can see it's current status (Completed, unfinished, undiscovered). If you want to mark a shrine on your minimap you just have to open the telescope up and use a button. If you want to save it on your map for later you have to open your map up for roughly 5 seconds and the game pretty much takes you in and escorts you right back out.
Loot is growing in the world or lying on the ground, loose items on the ground are affected by wind, they can burn, and most importantly you never need to open a loot tab to hit "confirm" for one item, you hit A and it is in your inventory.
Stuff like Pikango and the Shrine quests tell you to follow directions like "turn left at the river" or clues in the world without giving you a waypoint, admiteddly not all quests are equal in this regard and some do have waypoints or simply require a lot of an item.
Even though cooking and food is mostly handled in a menu you still have to physically pick up the ingredients or buy them in a store and see them leave the store and go into your inventory, you have to physically drop the ingredients in the pot or near the fire, they still make sure it happens in the gameplay even though it's mostly menu based.

>>381052557
P5's music was lacking if you asked me.

>>381052883
Lots of little game systems that just make sense. Link needs to be warm in cold climates, you can do this with warm weather clothes, spicy food, but you can also do it with a fire rod or flame weapon, your foods will also chill if you drop it in the water. Inverse is true for hot climates and the volcano. Lightning strikes metal weapons. If you light the grass on fire wind will spread it and you can glide on the rising air from the heat (not at all realistic but still technically grounded in real science.)
Koroks are not handled by witcher sense or a pop up on the screen telling you to look around. You need to use your critical thinking skills and keep your eyes open to notice all the koroks in the world. They don't tell you how to find a single Korok but you understand all the Korok puzzles that you've run into by the end of the game. Even when they add a Korok detector in the DLC, its a item in the game that you equip as a mask, they still make it so that it's happening in the game world instead of just on your HUD.
3. Succesfully executing emergent gameplay
Breath of the wild is essentially a bunch of small systems executing themselves in tandem and it works to make great emergent gameplay.
There's really simple stuff like the weather system, it rains to varying degrees, sometimes lightning, snow in cold places. And the archery system,you shoot an arrow, it has drop, and if it hits in the head it knocks them on their ass and does more damage.
There's a bunch of ways the two systems interact. A metal bow will start to conduct electricity in a lightning storm, if you shoot an electricity arrow in a rainstorm it has an AOE effect, if you shoot a bomb arrow in a rainstorm it won't detonate because the design of the arrow involves a match in the game.
3/4

>>381052896
No one's asking you.

>>381052285
I don't think I agree with that. Zelda has always had lots of interactive elements, but it didn't have many elements that interacted with each other. That was their whole focus in BotW with the multiplicative gameplay idea, it moves away from having the bow and arrow for the arrow switch and more towards giving players problems and general-use tools.

>>381052998
Then if you add the elemental systems on top of that you have stuff like the fact that you can shoot a fire arrow at the grass to get a fire going and create lift but it won't light as well if it's raining. On top of the ones that just use archery and the elemental system like shooting animals with a fire arrow cooks their meat.
Every single thing in the game works like this and interacts together while you're playing. Sometimes it's subtle and small things like a small variance like the weather or fire arrows completely changing how two similar encounters played out. But sometimes it can be a lot bigger and cooler, like the fact that skeletons and assasins will attack you at certain times and that guardians will attack and destroy and living creature and not just Link.
Or fire bats spawn when you have no fire weapons or arrows and are fighting a Hinox with two wooden ankleguards and you steer them into the ankleguards to burn them.

>>381053005
OP asked him.

>>381052861
>greentexts
>posts a good track
what did he mean by this

>>381053112
Did not.

>>381053076
Bonus less important but still important reasons.
4. Subverted Zelda gameplay and story tropes, desperately needed after playing OOT 3 more times after OOT came out.
5. A very nice amount of polish and attention for detail in a genre that's notorious for lacking these things.

>>381041908
None of them, GOTY always goes to some Q4 game.

>>381053112
no he didn't

Zelda

Persona is literally a Undertale Shit clone, that kills god with an edgy friendship gun

>adults sucks am i right xD?

>>381053309
Then why didn't FFXV win any awards last year?

I wanted Nier to be my GOTY but it was kind of mediocre overall. It was good but it wasn't great. BOTW and P5 were great games for me

Yakuza and Nioh were alright
RE7 was ok

>>381053309

Overwatch came out during summertime.

Who wins? I do

I loved both games and had a lot of fun playing each one. Regardless of which is crowned GOTY I will have enjoyed myself and that's all I care about

>>381053373
It wasn't even eligible since it came out too late and the game is kind of average like every other final fantasy game

>>381053463
Gaaaaaaaaay.

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>>381053247
>Tfw I went full autismo and nobody is going to read it

>>381053429
Nier Automata should've been the greatest game of all time and the fact that it isn't is soul-crushing.

>>381041908
Persona is better, Zelda will get GOTY.

>>381053693
I read it, anon. It wasn't particularly well-written or convincing, but I read it.
Have you considered applying for IGN?

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>>381052557
Leave P5 to Nocturne


https://youtu.be/IfHZQiFwcBE

https://youtu.be/egzutCUFaOw

https://youtu.be/vbB8mcM_xS8

https://youtu.be/_7KSHyF_X2M

https://youtu.be/jeEHKfaV80c

https://youtu.be/MTHFJacaIb8

https://youtu.be/QvDuBdcB2YE

>>381053693
I read it. I agree. It's just hard to convey how it all comes together because the best trick the game has is managing so much complexity in a way that's simple and completely intuitive.

>>381053693
What ultimately matters about that spergout is that Zelda has enough going for it that writing all that shit is only natural.

You can't write more than 5 lines for p5 because the game isn't deep enough.

>>381053907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go0JWfE9nEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6joQj2c25rc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vgTdyMPdsA

>>381041908

>both games have last-gen versions that can be emulated on PC with varying levels of success

Strange year.

>>381042717
YOU NEVER SEE IT COMIN

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>>381054118
>that can be emulated on PC
NEVER
EVER

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>>381054015
I could probably write 5 lines for pic related so I dont know about that. I probably could once I get Persona 5 but I'm still holding off on the PS4 now that the Switch and Atari are in the game.

>>381053801
I'm on the DUDE right now which probably accounts for the poorly written part.
I'll talk to Jessica Chobot about suckin her dick right away

>>381053967
Yeah it's fucking tricky. It took me a few weeks to even be able to convey general things I liked about it to my roommates.

>>381054628
>implying TMS isn't better than P5

>>381046624
>Overall, I was let down by the lack of tangible content in Breath of the Wild.

I actually agree, while the sandboxy open world was a cool gimmick and on a large scale it seemed pretty awesome I didn't find very diverse gameplay situations or meaningful content in the game.

>>381055031
I dont know yet, I haven't gotten Persona 5. I love TMS so far though.
>SMT combat
>Fire Emblem level ups and changing weapons being translated into the class respec thing
>Top tier dungeon design
>Those flashy fight scenes

>>381042717
Were those 1700 people paid to pretend they liked HZD? There are so many better games for the PS4 that released this year, so why would you lie about liking SJW propaganda?

>>381055302
>and changing weapons being translated into the thing
and class respeccing while you level up being translated into changing weapons to get abilities and passives*

>>381049385
It's not even weebshit, it's just nostalgiafags that want to believe that the company that ran their childhood isn't a piece of shit.

Fuck the open world meme, literally all it does is attract faggots who hardly play games into ticking off open world checklists, they're literally a culmination of bad design practices.

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>>381041908
Personally Overload is my GOTY but it won't win shit because it's not high profile enough
zelda or mario if it isn't delayed.
Persona has excellent presentation but it's really just piss poor adventure game padded out by extremely obnoxious and watered down rpg combat/systems, I'm not even one of those "must be realtime action game rpg combat" darksouls dicksuckers either, Persona is just that tedious and frankly boring to play

>>381055517
>ticking off open world checklists
Good thing BotW actively discourages that.

>>381055717
>4 dungeons
>15 towers
>120 shrines
>900 korok seeds

Wait how does botw discourage checklists again?

>>381055058
Explain. Because the gameplay situations are extremely diverse because the game is filled to the brim with handcrafted - therefore meaningful - content.

Take the upper boarder of Akkala and Death Mountain for example. In a span of about an hour, there's an enemy gauntlet and shrine at Skull Lake in some kind of enormous bone valley, then going west there's a giant hotspring with a miniboss, beyond that there's a unique climbing minigame hosted by Gorons, and then going a little further there's one of the three leviathan remains needed for a quest which is totally unique geometry, and then past that there's the pitch black wooded maze, and finally past another miniboss there's a labyrinth.

In that fairly small section of the map, there's already multiple twists and variations on the base gameplay.

>>381053023
>it moves away from having the bow and arrow for the arrow switch

Zelda has always been way, way better than that. I shouldn't even need to bring up stuff like all the mutually interacting quests in MM, the series is full of this kind of cleverness and concern for N^2 interaction of its design elements which is extremely rare in other titles.

>>381055981
You don't have to do any of those and the reward for getting all 900 Korok seeds is a pile of shit, quite the reward for a completionist just doing things off a checklist isn't it?

>>381046624
Good post. I enjoyed the exploration focus on BotW and its other deviations from the OoT formula, but I still think it could have been done a lot better. Honestly it should have stuck to the Zelda 1 formula even more closely, mainly with that game's dungeon structure and its metroidvania-esc item progression. Throw in some underground areas like caves, more enemy variety, and more unique overworld structure/events and it truly would've been fantastic. Still an 78/10 and a much needed change after the shitfest that was SS, but Persona 5 easily beats it for GOTY.

>>381056436
*7-8/10

>>381041908
I had more fun with Persona 5 than Breath of the Wild. But Breath of the Wild will probably win because it reached a wider audience.

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>>381041908
>BOTW or Persona 5 GOTY?
Adorable. The fight is between these 2.

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>Persona
>Game of ANYTHING

What the fuck are you weebs on? Go back to /jp/, where you belong

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>>381046298
>"I'm really 1000 years old!"

Really noodles your noggin

>>381041973
>>381042032
like poetry

>>381056749
Reminder Tyrone loves Persona.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzV1ufiE27w

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>>381056749
ゴホムウィトピッグ。

>>381051323
>The LGBTQ community in particular likes the franchise.
But SJWs don't buy games!