Super Mario Sunshine is fucking unacceptable

>>381031014
In Delfino Plaza, there are a total of 16 shine sprites to be earned if you don't include the final shine sprite for beating Bowser and the 24 blue coin shine sprites. Now since Delfino Plaza is a hub world, and a pretty good one at that, it's mildly acceptable. Now 5 of these come from secret levels, which is fine, they're a whole separate area, and despite two of them considered to be among the most difficult levels in the game (the Pachinko level, and the toxic river lily pad level). After this, it gets bad. Five of them involve spraying something, three of which are blatantly obvious since you need to clean a giant golden object. That specific thing happens three times. You have another 100 coin shine sprite wasting away. One of them literally involves getting 10 coins and giving them to a guy, thats it. Another two involve playing a dumb box smashing mini-game, twice, which is as lazy as it sounds. The last two involve using the unlock-able nozzles. One is visible the entire fucking game, they didn't even try. The other is hidden away, and requires you to do a specific action to get it (get to the top of the lighthouse, use the rocket nozzle, and ground pound), and even then that isn't obvious, so it isn't as bad, but it's still lazy and unacceptable. All together, that's another 11 wasted shine sprites.

The Airstrip, which you can return to after beating the game as hidden stage, has one blue coin, and one shine sprite. Guess how you get it? By doing another fucking timed red coin challenge, and there isn't even a fucking 100 coin shine sprite for whatever reason, even though you can still get 100 coins in the level.

get good

>>381031052
Corono Mountain is the final stage, but functions more like a minor area with a fuckload of blue coins.

So all together, that adds up to a total of 57 shine sprites that serve no other purpose but to pad the game. The game has 120 shine sprites. That means that 47.5% of the shine sprites are just filler content, not actual worlds or stages. 57 fucking shine sprites. You could have 7 additional stages using those shine sprites, with one left over that could have been used to make an additional hidden stage you could have accessed from Delfino Plaza.

Instead of having 7 major areas, a hub world and 7 minor areas that can be accessed from the Hub World, there could have been say 14 major areas with 8 minor areas, or 15 major stages and no minor areas, or there 13 major areas and 15 minor areas, or 12 major areas and 23 minor areas.

But no, what we got was 7 major areas, 7 minor areas, the hub world, and a fuckload of pointless filler shine sprites. Hell it would have been okay if it was just the blue coin shine sprites that got turned into extra stages, but nope, a came that's literally almost 50% filler content.

I love this game to death, but this is really fucking pathetic.

>>381031014
>>381031052
>>381031145
is there a mario fan autistic enough to prove him wrong?

It was rushed and they had to bullshit some way to make it have 120 Shines like the Stars in 64, otherwise it would've felt like a step back. I'm sure they would've much preferred to have more levels if they weren't forced to meet a deadline.

>>381031014
Just play through the game and ignore the blue coins
Is somebody pointing a gun to your head telling you to get 120 stars and show them the 100% completion jpg?

>>381031425
There's nothing to prove. If he thinks coins outside of the critical path are padding, then he must hate all mario games (oh my god, mario 3, the warp whistles mean all worlds between 1 and 8 must be padding!).

>>381031646
Blue Coins are functionally different from regular coins. They're random collectables that make up a much too large portion of the shine count. The fact that theres 240 of them makes it worse. Blue Coins are a fifth of the total shine count.

>>381031014
Tramplin' Stu is still a terrifying enemy in the game, thank fuck that thing was unused.

>>381031014
>the game is bad because there is a lot of things to do
>>381031052
>the game is bad because there are hidden collectibles that aren't required, as well as post-game content
>>381031145
>the game is pathetic because it has a lot of collectibles

I understand that the game is hell to 100%with dumb coin shit but in terms of hub worlds and main sprite missions, I think Sunshine easily tops all 3D marios so far.

>>381031014
>>381031052
>>381031145

at the time my 15 year old sister 100% this game in a week.

get fucking groovy

my actual issue with the game, unlike OP's sperging about how there's too much, my issue is that over half of the shrines don't count to beating the game.

when i say that i mean everything that isn't a stage shrine doesn't open up the last stage, what i liked about n64 as a kid was that if i didn't like a stage, like wet dry world, i didn't have to do it to beat the game. meanwhile if i don't like the casino island resort? well too bad for me i gotta do 7 shrines in that place to beat the game.

nice way to put it. strange that /v/ has no problems making low effort shitposts but when someone takes the effort to make an argument suddenly all the shitposting was apparently disingenuous banter.