Convince me not to buy a Switch.

As much as people like to say that Zelda is the game of the generation, it's still very far behind the quality of Bloodborne and its design. Not trying to shit on Zelda, but Bloodborne has the better combat, better atmosphere, better story, better bosses, better enemy variations and better world design.

It's worth buying a PS4 only for that game.

>>381000757
Ya see what happened to the wii u? I don't trust nintendo ever again

>>381001131
Holy shit sony fags are getting desperate.

Splatoon 2 should have just been a DLC, not a $60 game.

Where I live retailers sell the Switch for ~ 550$ and I just found some guy selling it 2nd hand for ~300$ with BotW and MK8.

Should I jump on it and get a Switch? I really feel like waiting a year will only do good because right now it doesn't have much appeal, but I am afraid such a low price wont pop up again anytime soon.

Just so you undertand , the cheapest I saw the WiiU sold here even now is about 330$.

>>381001635
Why not buy it and resell it for a higher price

>>381000757
Paid online multiplayer.

>>381001516
DLC for what? Splatoon 1 isnt on the Switch.

>>381001131
I DID buy a ps4 just for bloodborne. I regret it. It's the best souls game but definitely not with an entire console buy

>>381001730
Xbox live = $60 /12 months, required for online play.

PS+ = $60 /12 months, required for online play.

Nintendo online = $20 for 12/ months, required for online play.

Hmmmm.

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>>381001131
>It's worth buying a PS4 only for that game.

>>381000757
>neglecting to put "also on wiiu" for the wiiu port
hm.

>>381000757
wait till prime 4 comes out

>>381001937
>a-at least they lube their cock before fucking me in the ass
Paid online is paid online, fucko.

>>381001937
Paid online is shit regardless of the console or price.

>>381002084
none of those are wii u ports

>>381000757
Yakuza 0 runs like ass on PS3. Like nearly every game that was during 2013-2015, it was one of those games that had no business being on last gen systems because the lastgen could barely handle it.

>>381000757
Don't buy it now, wait until the end of the life cycle so the games are as cheap as they'll be before people start buying them again with hindsight in about decade like has happened with the Gamecube

>>381000757
Switch isn't worth. It only has 1 game atm

>>381002319
please delete this

>>381000757
Well for one, the ps4 games are out
Also i like how you disregarded BotW just to fit your "on previous gen" narrativ

>>381000757
>nintendo abandoned the WiiU within it's first year
>has lots of Switch games ready to go on it's release
woah, crazy

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>>381001131
>prayse BB
>not even better than dark souls

>>381000757
>Battery life
>Overpriced piece of plastic
>Only good Mario and Zelda

>PS4 is in the twilight of its life
>Just got bodied at E3 by Scorpio, most of its best games are "definitive" editions of PS3 games
>PS4 Pro offers nothing, most games see no meaningful performance increase. Some games actually perform worse on Pro.

>Switch is a young system with years of life ahead of it
>Nintendo's output is being consolidated on Switch, and Nintendo 1st party > Sony 1st party
>PC is the correct place for 3rd party, so any advantage Sony has in that area is meaningless

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just buy a vita

>>381002319
>>381002837
Madman

>>381000757
2017 has been wonderful for PS4 owners
>Horizon
>Nioh
>Gravity Rush 2
have all released exclusively
>Nier
>RE7
have both released with console exclusivity. And then Persona 5 is still only on playstation, being on PS3 kind of in the same way BotW is on WiiU to fulfill on an old development promise

I'm very happy with how strongly the Switch seems to be coming out of the gate, but I also can't imagine pushing aside the PS4 right now when they're both so good.

I think the big difference here is PS3 had big games right up until PS4 came out, so PS4 games took a couple of years to get going. WiiU owners, myself included, really got the short end of the stick from Nintendo and were basically left to dry the last couple of years, while Switch games were probably being made. But now Switch might not have anything big past 2017/18 for a couple of years (like Mario/Zelda)

>>381001131
I'm inclined to agree actually, and i'm playing through BotW right now and loving it. They're both incredible games, but Zelda has mass appeal and BB is for an edgelord audience, so the majority opinion will always lean to Zelda

>>381001913
It is, Bloodborne is hands down the best game ever made, it nails everything, the RPG elements, the weapons movesets, the fucking amazing atmosphere, the excellent NPCs and dialogues, the world design and lore, the enemies designs and bosses, the difficulty, the gothic setting, holy shit, Bloodborne is amazing man, it's a masterpiece and I have played a lot of games in my life, but Bloodborne surpassed all of them. Ocarina of time, Majora's Mask, Shadow of the Colossus, ICO, Half Life, Metal Gear Solid 3, Dark Souls, Monster Hunter 4U, Demon's Souls, Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy IX, these are the best games I've played and Bloodborne is simply better than all of them, it has no flaws, it's simply art of the finest quality.

>>381001131
>Bloodborne has the better combat, better atmosphere, better story, better bosses, better enemy variations and better world design.
It also has NOTHING LIKE BOTW. What's next? Are you gonna say TLOU has better gameplay than Tetris? Fucking idiot.

>>381003451
>But now Switch might not have anything big past 2017/18 for a couple of years (like Mario/Zelda)

Why does every other series from Nintendo get ignored?

>>381003895
Just meant scale/budget of game, not those series in particular

>people itt think BOTW is a switch exclusive
If all you want is zelda buy a $50 dollar wiiu and out some files on a sd card
boom
every game for it for free

>>381000757
You could play skyrim everywhere. EVERYWHERE!

>>381002898
A vita with henkaku is literally the best handheld console ever made.
You cannot dispute this fact.

But yeah until we got henkaku the vita sucked

>>381003451
wait re7 is not on the xbone?
Thats not true is it?

>>381003770
They are both action games with a story and a focus on the world design.

On the action part, Bloodborne performs better because it has better combat, better weapon movesets, better bosses and enemies, higher difficulty and its RPG elements are much more complex.

On the story part, Bloodborne is also better because it has a fucking incredible story, with amazing NPCs and excellent dialogues. BotW lacks a lot in that regard.

On the world design part, Bloodborne is also better, it has excellent level design, enemy positions, lore and much less empty spaces.

>>381000757
>also on ps3 is an arguement somehow
>shitoon

Do whatever you want its your money dumbass. Try saving it and starting a small business you manchild shit

>>381004267
might have been confused because RE7 on psvr is popular

>>381001131
OP BTFO

>>381001131
/thread
I Bought PS4 2 months ago and its still my only game

>>381000757
It really just depends on the type of games you like. I'm not really into multiplayer games, so for now I'm just playing BotW on WiiU and holding off on Switch because Arms, Splatoon, Mario Kart all don't appeal to me. I like Action/Adventure and RPG games though, so I'll probably buy one for the new Xenoblade

PS4 has a lot of good stuff right now though for 3rd person stuff and rpgs

>>381004176
What are some good vita games? I got a pstv and recently hacked it. I already had p4g and p4dan

>>381000757

You wont see any meaningful 3rd party games.

There I just saved you $299.

>>381004660
not exclusive to vita, but as a squareenix fag I love World of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest Builders on my vita a lot

>>381000757
Already have a switch and PS4. Got more out of the switch than I did out of the 4. Actually thinking of selling my ps4 to get a ps2.

>>381003720
>no flaws
I wish false flagging was a bannable offense

>>381001516
You haven't played it yet, you don't know how much content is in it. Couldn't you have said that about almost any multi-player shooter anyway?

>>381004872
>selling a $200 console to buy a $20 console
what

>>381001131

>Better Story

Lore fags aka Soulsdrones need to be gased.

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>>381001131
fpbp

I bought a Switch on release day, there's nothing to play on it compared to the PS4.

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>>381000757
Here, fixed your hipocrisy for you OP

Now its games that are ACTUALLY OUT compared to each other

Or should I list the upcomming PS4 games for your autism aswell ?

>>381000757

I think the picture of those 3 games do enough to convince you their all shit

>>381004946
Well, that's my opinion, what would you say are some of the flaws of Bloodborne? I think they managed to nail every aspect of the game.

>>381004990
And the ps2 has arguably has superior catalog. Or are you just looking down on people that are happy without having the newest shiniest toys?

>>381005308
framerate

>>381000757
>children's games
>weebshit

>>381001131
As someone that really loves Bloodborne, while the combat and music are far better, everything else about BOTW is better, and I'll be replaying it when master quest comes out.

>>381004660
Vita games?
Depends on what you like, i guess. There's a shit ton of jrpgs if you have the patience and taste for them, i myself might check out p4g and maybe the neptunia rpgs.

Personally, i really enjoyed GoW collection, duke nukem 3d megaton, mgs collection.
Some games i have downloaded include the senran kagura games and that neptunia spinoff (hack and slash games), also if you're into H&S there's the two ninja gaiden games.
Also KZ mercenary is supposed to be GOAT, Resistance burning skies is decent too.

tl;dr: Emulation is the Vita's true value but:
>KZ mercenary
>Resistance burning skies (its short but ok)
>senran kagura games and neptunia U (if you like anime and hack and slash)
>Ninja gaiden sigma plus 1&2
>God of war collection, MGS collection
>Duke nukem 3d megaton edition
>Neptunia rebirth 1, 2 & 3 (if you're into that)
>God eater 1&2, soul sacrifice, and many more of those types of games
>that one digimon rpgs seems to get a lot of praise
>dragons crown
>FFX/X-2, World of FF
>Sly, jak, ratchet trilogy (if you enjoy them)

But seriously tho, install adrenaline and emulate shit

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>>381001131
>>381005249
OP on suicide watch

>>381004990
>sell
as in I get money, not a trade in you serf

>>381005249
You're silly if you make an investment on a console without considering future titles.

>>381005378
I don't think it should be considered a flaw because it doesn't affect anything in the game, only its performance and it's not like the game is unplayable. Zelda also has framerate problems.

>>381000757
Buy one if you want. What am I, your financial adviser?

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>>381002837
>>381002319
DO NOT
SEXUALIZE
MY
WIFE

>>381005549
says the wii-u owner

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>>381000757

Or you can not rely on /v/ and go do some research on which games each system has compared to what games you want to play

There's a lot more to ps4 than this meme of 'it only has bloodborne'

While since switch is very new people will counter and say 'it only has zelda' though mario odyssey is coming out so..there's that.

RESEARCH

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>>381005597
This E3

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>>381004640

I don't get his argument at all...buy more games then?

I got my PS4 in February and have pic related. There is lots to play anon.

>>381000757
PS4 has 1600 titles.
Switch has like 12 titles.

PS4 has far more variety in games. It is also cheaper and pretty easy to find at this point, unlike the Switch. Which you will probably have to buy one off eBay for double its price.

>>381005686
I would consider buying a switch if it werent such a gimmicky piece of shit, its the same shit that happened with the wii-u.
Why cant nintendo just make a fucking console instead of some retarded looking shit

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>Yakuza is about violence and realism and edgy murder
>Bloodborne is the same, sans the realism
>Persona is the same, except put in a high school with whiny anime teenagers

>Splatoon is a console shooter, therefore is worse than Call of Duty by default
>Mario Odyssey will be casualized for the mainstream
>Xenoblade is a cinematic experience

Consoles were a mistake.

>>381005750
>buy more games then
The only games you own that are worth getting on PS4 are Bloodborne, Persona 5, and Nioh
t. PS4 owner.

What's the appeal of xenoblade? Looks generic and the hud is disgusting

>>381005449
What do you think Breath of the Wild does better than Bloodborne? Atmosphere, NPCs, enemies, bosses, story, armors, weapons are all better in Bloodborne.

>>381001937
Xbox live and PSN have both had far better online models over the years than Nintendo.
Hell, Nintendo online service has been shit for years, and now you have to pay for it.

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>>381005549
Reading comprehension much ?

Of course upcomming titles are important, but OP listed existing PS4 games vs future Switch games, and thats pure autism

Jesus, you nintenbros are pathetic

>>381000757
switch doesnt have bloodborne

It's your money. How old are you that you ask random strangers on the internet how you should spend your money? Do you know what you want? Then fucking buy the thing you want.

>>381005741
I understand why people say Nintendo one e3, but why do people keep jerking off Microsoft? Just to be contrarian?
>Didn't show even 1 (one) exclusive
>new Xbox is $100 more than PS4 Pro
>Xbox X games are still checkboarded upscales even though Microsoft kept shouting true 4k shit

>>381005991
It's huge world, but I personally can't stand the combat.

>>381005937
I pity your taste then

>>381006042
So adjust it so the ps4 has upcoming titles listed too? Wouldn't that be more relevant?

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>>381006102
YAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>381002574
Like how OP and Nintendo fags are ignoring this. None of those games are currently out for the Switch.

>>381005937
What about multiplats tho? Switch doesnt have those

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>>381001131

This.

Bloodborne is better than BotW in every aspect, except in muh nostalgia factor.

>>381000757
Consoles are

>>381006114
Might as well play memeout 4 then

>>381005991
nintendo fans who never played the ps1 and ps2 xeno rpgs latched onto the wii xeno game, since it was the only rpg on wii in like 5 years. At the end of that one you basically kill god and declare religion wrong, so every last fedora tipping atheist that owned a wii flipped their edgy shit. Then the wiiu xeno game was hot horseshit. And now we're here

>>381006187
I actually asked OP if I should do it, but looks like he was just here to shitpost and now hes gone

>>381005249
Mario Kart is also on Wiiu.

>>381005561
you're kidding? I'm the anon that bought the ps4 to play bloodborne, the framerate definitely is a factor. it sucks away the experience and affects fights. you're delusional if you think otherwise

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I have a Switch. Unless you are a die hard Nintendo fan (like I am), it's not worth much yet. Wait until it's been out a year. Then, you can buy it, Mario Kart 8, Zelda, Mario Odyssey, Arms, Splatoon 2, and a whole much of other shit all at once and have an amazing starter catalog.

Right this instant, it's lacking, but way more shit will be availible if you buy it, say, next spring.

>>381000757
Monster hunter.

>>381006313
At least F4's combat has more going for it. Nintendo fans were going apeshit when I suggested the games should try going for DD's type of combat.

>>381006167
>Until Dawn
Shitty movie game
>KH 1.5+2.5
Better to just emulate them, Squeenix fucks up several parts
>Disgaea 5
Better on Switch since all the dlc is free
>Resident Evil origins
Better on PC
>Neptunia
Dogshit series
>Zestiria
Bad Tales game, also better on PC though
>2.8
No one should pay $60 for 3 hours of new content
>sports game
>Doom
Retarded to buy this on console instead of PC
>GE2
Better on PC or Vita for handheld factor
>Resident Evil 4
Better on PC
>Nier
Better on PC
>buying remasters
>FF Type 0
Bad game
>The Order
Bad movie game
>MGSV
Better on PC, also mediocre installment
>Digimon Cyber Sleuth
No matter how much digifags shill it, its' a bad game
>World of FF
Bad game
Ratchet and Clank
Eh, I'll give this one a pass
>Yakuza 0
Has always been a meme game
>TLG
Horribly disappointing game
>remaster
>Berseria
Better on PC

>>381006263
I have a PC, as does any non retard or poorfag on /v/. It's generally assumed you have one at this point.

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Only good game in op is bloodborne. Go ahead and buy the switch though, you will use it if prime4 doesn't shit the bed so no penalty for early adoption. I'll probably grab it but not before they show more games. I'd need like, three, before I bought and odyssey just isn't exciting. That means 2 to go.

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>>381006196
>>381005645
>being this much of an autistic fat mouthbreathing anime sperglord

Shiggidiggy

>>381000757
I will recommend a Switch simply because of the games it has and has coming.

However if you want reasons not to get it, the big one is probably the fact that the tablet's fan spazzes out if you damage it somehow and the left joycon sometimes decides to suddenly stop working on rare occasions.

>>381006038
>PSN
>Good online model
Funny joke
They've had the same dogshit online since PS3, except now they stopped giving good games out for PS+ since everyone is required to have it.

>>381001635
Might as well, that's a steal. Like the other anon said, if you don't want it you can still sell it and make a profit.

>>381006439
Did you even open the image, bro ?

but yea, its hard to read

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>>381006408
Are they that overrated?
Did Xeno chronicles really suck that bad?
I know im getting a Wii-u some day and i need more games for it other than bayo2 and W101

>>381006658
If you don't like anime or /a/ memes you should probably consider leaving, neogaf.

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If you have a PC then buy a Switch, if you don't then get ready for the drought.

>>381006585
DD? Dungeons and dragons?

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>>381005991

Nintendo purists that never touches another companies consoles don't have the chance to play good modern RPGs so they are easily impressed

I played Xenoblade Chronicles on the Wii and got bored after 5 hours or so

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>>381006628

>Shitty movie game
>he says while defending Zelda and Xenoblade

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>>381006628
Why even list multiplats when you'd just write
>better on pc
?

Also, why would you buy a PS4 when you have a highend pc ?

>>381006780
>>381006408
Nah the xenofags that never moved to Nintendo just shit on Xenoblade out of fanboyism these days.

>>381006729
Never said it was good, said it was better than Nintendo's online.

>>381006113
because most of us are pc gamers and Microsoft's presentation was a huge win for us

>>381006628
You sound like a humongous faggot, calling everything you literally DIDNT play dogshit.

That is the kind of stuff i did when i was 15, anon

>>381006187
It wouldn't be fair to nintendo.

>>381006780
chronicles and chronicles X have horrible horrible gameplay, but chronicles at least has fine (standard jrpg) characters, X doesn't even have this. The worlds are fun enough to run around in. And the music is good in Chronicles. X is debatable there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZxLijQvEa4

>>381006859
Days gone is only a small step up above a VN. It and Telltale shit are what I call AN, or, animated novels.
Zelda and Xenoblade are mostly gameplay. Hell Zelda has barely any cutscenes compared to its game length, and Xenoblade is like 80% gameplay at least.

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>>381006821
How about you take your shitty "its an imageboard therefor I can post anime shit wherever I want" attitude and shove it up your fat white ass, manchild ?

>>381006849
Dragon's Dogma, while not perfect it really handled melee and range combat well.

>>381006463
How exactly does it affect the fights? Sure, it would be nice to have locked 30/60 fps, but even with framerate drops the game is not unplayable, it doesn't affect anything significant in the game, stop being such a pussy.

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>>381007075

>Zelda and Xenoblade are mostly gameplay.
>but if you took the story out, all of the gameplay would be ruined because muh artistic vision

Just digging that hole deeper.

>>381006780
>PS1 xeno
disk 1 is good, disk 2 is shit. Half finished game
>PS2 xeno games
all 3 are shit
>Wii xeno game
gameplay is shit, everything else is okay for a jrpg
>WiiU xeno game
>its shit
Switch xeno game
the chance it'll be shit is very high. But anything that's exclusive to a Nintendo console gets a big fanbase, especially if nintendo throws it in Smash

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>>381006628
>Yakuza 0
>Has always been a meme game

>>381006968
I don't have to play the newest Neptunia to know it's dogshit. If you've played one Nep game you've played them all. There are a billion good jrpg franchises out there, and Nep is not one of them.

Only other game I didn't play was The Order, because I'm not buying a fucking movie game where the shooting mechanics are bad. At least Uncharted has decent shooting mechanics even as a movie game.

>>381007019
I'm genuinely curious, I don't follow Sony. What exclusives are on the horizon?

Someone should make a better version of OP's pic with only upcoming exclusives.

>>381006780

Xenoblade Chronicles is OK overall and has good soundtrack.

Xenoblade Chronicles X is just bad

>>381007119
I really wanted to love dragons dogma, and after playing it and platinum'd it i REALLY respect most of the things it does and it tries to do, but it just gets boring at points and it always feels like an unfinished game.
So of the stuff is so backward-assed and so many mechanics and stuff are so poorly (if at all) explained i just simply cannot give it a pass.

I hope it gets a sequel that improves on it, or an actual remaster that fixes stuff

>>381001131
Don't listen to this sonyshill, bloodborne is by far th emost overated game this board has ever praised to infinity

source: i own a ps4, guilty gear and world of final fantasy are better

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>>381007209
>Zelda
>Bad without the story
No one has ever complimented BOTW on its story you dumbass.

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>>381006628
>Yakuza 0
>Has always been a meme game

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>>381000757
I love reading this console war bullshit and the faggots that buy into it

>>381006963
I guess I get confused because its always an Xbox wojak in everything and not a windows 10 store wojak

>>381006938
Steam proved like 10% of people on Steam have high-end PC's. This meme needs to stop. Most people on PC have fucking toasters that are no more powerful than consoles.

>>381001131
Bloodborne is a bad game. Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are both better than Bloodborne. Bloodborne is shilled because it's exclusive to a Sony console and cannot be played anywhere else. Like Demon's Souls before it except Demon's Souls was better. Dark Souls 2 is better than Bloodborne. There I said it and it's a fact. If Dark Souls 2 was a Sony exclusive you'd be shilling the hell out of that.

>>381000757
why? Can't you make your own decisions?

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>>381007142
>"the game is perfect!"
>no it has flaws
>"name one!"
>framerate
>"OH MY GOD, IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANYTHING, STOP BEING A PUSSY"

Like clockwork.

>>381007340
The point of the OP picture is the timeframe from console launch to launch of major games, not what's out and upcoming currently.

>>381006628
>Neptunia
>shit

stopped reading there

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>>381007397

Then why does the story exist? The memories are nothing more than essentially cinematic landmines that actively ruin any exploration, and if I want to avoid them, I have to rush right to Ganon because story is a disgusting cancer upon video games.

>>381007598
>Dark Souls 2 is better than Bloodborne.
woah holy shit slow down here. DS2 doesn't even function properly

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>>381007431
Me too, eventhough Im on the opposite console

>>381000757
I bought one with my bonus last week and Im loving it.
Theres no huge system seller but its selling well and its gonna get continued support, and overall just feels like a nice piece of hardware. MK8 on the go is nice too.

>>381000757

Zelda and Mario Kart are on Wii U

>>381007672
The story exists for timeline fags and people that NEED story in their games.
Unless you actively search for the story, it's about as present as it was in the first LoZ game.

>>381006024
Not him, and I haven't played much Bloodborne, so I can't tell, but I've played a fair bit of BOTW, and it really doesn't shine in anything other than the interaction with the environment, but all the little and decent mechanics work so well together that it ends up being great.
Although, I'll probably be buying a PS4+BB in the next months, so I'll see if it's as good as everyone makes it up to be

>>381007442
Most people who claim Microsoft won aren't console warring fags, at least from what I can tell.

I own a decent pc, a ps4, and have a switch on the way. Here's my e3 order, on who won:

>Nintendo
>Microsoft (because of PC push)
>everyone else
>Sony

Sony literally had nothing I wanted.

>>381007641
Way to sperg out like an autist

>>381007672
the story is literally completely optional ACfag, I swear you shit up every single thread you touch.

>>381007598
Nah man, ive been with souls since demons on 2010 western release and i can tell you bloodborne is good, it can be a bit jarring to go from dark/demon to bloodborne because of the change of pace and way to approach the game, but its really good. Easily better than 2 and 3

Personally i prefer the slower dark1/demon style combat, but demon=bloodborne>=dark1 (because the second half fucking sucked but the first one was so good)

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>>381007118
>complains about weebs
>I'll post a black guy
Anime should be scorned but your post is just as uninformed.

>>381007825

>The story exists for timeline fags and people that NEED story in their games.

You shouldn't be pandering to them, period. Tell them to go back to their David Cage cinematic movies.

>Unless you actively search for the story, it's about as present as it was in the first LoZ game.
The first LOZ game at least ran at 60 FPS, instead of spending all of its time dedicated to making cutscenes of Zelda crying like a useless whore.

>>381007867
Not an argument. I was mimicking the bloodborne fanboy

>>381007362
Yeah the game really is a mixed bad. They can make a Diablo type of game if just cut out the open world and just focus on dungeon crawling like they did for Dark Arisen.

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>>381007382

>Shits on Bloodborne
>Likes final fantasy: Chibi faggot version

Well, your shit opinion makes sense at least

>>381007643
Oh. It would be nice to have.

In 2 years it is going to have far better exclusives than the PS4, far better Japanese support ,cheaper (and probably more reliable) online

Western support will be tepid at best and dismal at worst. Indie support will be pretty fucking good.

+ it's a handheld, + it has local co-op out of the box, + it has virtual console etc

to me it' a far more attractive proposition. for sonynegros probably not

>>381000757
this comparison is super silly since the Switch launched in March at the start of 2017 and the PS4 launched in Nov at the end of 2013. If you look at the PS4's 2014 line up, which is a more accurate comparison it had stuff like
>Infamous Second Son
>Infamous First Light
>The Show '14
>LBP3
>Driveclub
Not to argue those are better than the Switch games, but they are the games PS4 promised on around its launch window. Throwing up the 2017 Persona 5 because its popular right now is ??

>>381007882

>the story is completely optional
Doesn't stop it from being cancerous. And when faced with a tumor, you don't ignore it. You cut it out.

>>381008010
I never said it was shit, I said it was overrated to shit. it's far from perfect than you fromfags love to believe it is.

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>>381008130
>far better Japanese support
>No MHW
>No DBZ fighterZ
>No Code Vein
>No new vannilware game
>No .hack port
>no Yakuza ports

Kek it will NEVER get more support than PS4 since PS4 can run demanding and low budget games

>>381006024
>Atmosphere
Disagree
Bloodborne has an almost constant dark and grim atmosphere to it reminiscent of lovecraft. This is well and good, but it almost only evokes a single emotion from the player from start to finish.
BOTW on the other hand is able to evoke a variety of emotions from its many different locations, from the comfy and feelings of simplicity in the towns, to the looming sadness felt by the church as you look over a conquered Hyrule, to the sheer awe and wonder felt in the Zora city.

>NPCs
While Bloodborne had unique NPCs, none had very much character to them, just a basic story. Many of BOTW's NPCs feel alive and interesting.
>enemies
This goes with combat, I'll agree BB had better enemies and enemy designs
>bosses
you just used the same category twice m8
>story
BOTW doesn't try to have a good story. BB doesn't have one either no matter how much lorefags deny it.
>armors
Disagree
>Weapons
Agree, but that goes into combat.

BOTW also has
>better world (and more variety in environments to boot)
>more exploration
>more variety in terms of what they game does to the player (puzzles making them think, letting the player feel as if they have complete freedom, enemies encouraging creativity
>more interaction with the world itself (the tons of physics based stuff you can do and all the interactions between physics and the player)
>while kind of being like the above, items are actually present objects in the world rather than being a glowing yellow circle outside of the player or an enemy using it

>>381007962
>You shouldn't be pandering to them, period.
SS was pandering to them
BOTW is pandering to people that just want good gameplay.

>>381004306
You're comparing a casual game that appeals to a lot of kids to a mature dark game that focuses entirely on being difficult like the dark souls games. They have entirely different level designs and atmosphere which you can't objectively say better. One can prefer a less gloomy and dark environment where the other can prefer a western dark atmosphere with a huge dark twist with the story. Bloodborne isn't even a open world at the same level of zelda so, of course it would do better at having less empty space. Would it be able to do the same thing if it was as big as botw? I doubt it. You just prefer bloodborne and that's fine. For me, I like them both for different reasons. They just cannot be compared. A children's picture book would not be compared to a harry potter novel.

>>381002771
>Switch is a young system with years of life ahead of it
zelda is out, mario is soon, after that the onlytitles i could see bringing more life is a main series pokemon and maybe xenoblade 2.

ater that it might as well be pulled from production because there's legit nothing else.

>>381008527
It will in Japan. PS4 sold badly there and Nintendo is king in Japan now. Sony only cares about the West.

>>381007779
where in that image do you see zelda or mario kart 8

>>381008527
And yet it'll get all the AA and A support that PS4 never grabbed onto which the Vita and 3DS held with an iron grip.

>>381007063
X doesn't have horrible gameplay. I'll say that the exploration and world itself aren't as appealing as they used to be in a post-BotW world, but it's still pretty fun to play. There's a lot more spectacle in X's world, but also a lot more flat surfaces, and you can't exactly climb like in BotW, though you can cheese your way to certain locations which can be pretty fun. Getting to the branches overhanging Noctilum early on in the story felt like a huge accomplishment, and X does have a pretty big world to explore.

Like if I had to rank the game when it came out, I'd say it's a good 86-87%.

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>>381001635
>I just found some guy selling it 2nd hand for ~300$ with BotW and MK8.
A while back when the Switch was released, we were looking at Craigslist ads. Some anon saw a Switch bundle at a too good-to-be-true price, but the photo was reused from other sales, and the location was in this fairly lonely stretch of road with lots of trees and a creek (convenient for dumping bodies).

A Switch isn't worth getting dying for.

>>381003720
Jesus fucking Christ. Do you work for FromSoftware or Sony Interactive Entertainment. Played a lot of games, eh? Then you liat a bunch of games that are either Sony exclusive or strongly associated with the PlayStation brand. You haven't played shit, you are a one brand pony or a paid marketing shill. Fuck Bloodborne it's worse than Dark Souls 2 and 3. And you can only play it with a garbage tier Sony controller with a light on it

>>381008690

>BOTW is pandering to people that just want good gameplay.
And they didn't deliver with half the content being behind amiibos and season pass DLC, and the base game being forced to run at a vomit-inducing 30 FPS. It's disgusting. Look at how much game journalists love it, and those hacks hate good video games. They despise them infact. They only give high rankings to movie games.

>>381008832
>there's legit nothing else.
>when kirby, yoshi, pokemon, and one of the most requested nintendo series, metroid prime, is coming back with a new installment to it

never post here again if you're this stupid

>>381008832
Splatoon 2 is going to ensure the Switch stays out of stock in Japan through the fucking holidays.
For the west there's Metroid Prime 4, Kirby, Yoshi, etc.
Rabbids is also getting good pre-order numbers due to its appeal to children.

>no but see it needs to have all the games for 2018, 2019, and 2020 revealed otherwise it's getting none
You're so damn stupid holy shit

>>381008951
>half the content
Lol no

>>381009000
This. From, Square Enix, Platinum are all working on something, so is Retro. Dragon Quest, SMT, etc. There's also a rumor that there's a new MonHun coming for Switch.

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>>381000757
>Own Bloodborne and BotW
>Quit Bloodborne after blood starved beast because its a shit game
>Quit BotW after desert giraffe thing because its a shit game
you guys are getting hella heated over nothing

>>381009130

>whatis hard mode

And yes, that is something games should have at the outset.

All of you faggots need to shut the fuck up and buy a PS4 along with Persona 5 and Final Fantasy X and X-2

>>381009481
>a difficulty mode is half the content
ACfag you need to see a doctor, the cancer might have spread to your brain.

>>381006038
it's been bad cause it's been free

>>381008928
The questing in X is horrible. They make it so hard to find the objectives and you're always forced to look online to find them. Morrowind directions is miles better. Not to mention that you are stuck with one character story quest and the requirements are ridiculous.

If you buy a Switch I'll come to your house and fucking kill you

>>381001131
Fpbp. Drones btfo

>>381008848
>>381008863
You're lying to yourself, nearly the entire Vita library has been ported to PS4 and the 3ds itself is cucking the fuck out of the switch getting it's own games and promised to get shit 2018 and beyond.

>sony cares only about the west

lol you silly kid, all those games i mentioned are Japanese made and sony doesn't have to do anything, they will get games made for that system since japan will constantly make games for that system while the switch you never know when. Falcom for example have moved on from the vita/ps3 age and are back on PS4/PC releases

>>381000757
it's going to be cheaper in decemeber/november

if you pay more than 299USD before taxes you are a retard never EVER pay more than the MSRP and if you can ALWAYS pay less

Why is BOTW hideous in screens? Is it nice when actually playing it? The lighting is way, way too bright.

>>381002154
But anon, I'm gay.

>>381009780
>sony doesn't have to do anything
They already know they lost Japan. There's nothing they can do against the Switch now.

>>381009780
3DS development has gone to a crawl.
The Bravely Default team for example is done with the 3DS and they've moved to the Switch with Octopath (they'll probably decide between Bravely 3 and Octopath 2 based on Octopath sales compared to BD)

>>381009186
>There's also a rumor that there's a new MonHun coming for Switch.

Be realistic about this.

They spent their whole main team years on MHW and then another team is handling the XX port in japan, i don't doubt their will be a new MH game on the switch but they deffo can't be in the process of making another MH game on top of everything yet.

>>381009823
don't know if this helps answer your question, but I own a 1080p tv for my living room and a 720p one for my bedroom. I noticed a drastic improvement in visual quality when I played the game on a 720p tv because it wasn't getting stretched and upscaled to 1080p

>>381008832
Smash
Mario Kart 9
Mario Party
Monster Hunter XX

>>381001937
Xbox live and PS+ = Get real games monthly and have real actual good game to play online
Nintendo online = old game that con be played only during the month, literally only 2 games with decent online capabilities.

>>381006821
Fuck off weeb nigger

>>381009571

Yes, in GOOD games it is half the content, because it increases replayability.

>>381009993
It's not coming from me, moron. Besides, you're an idiot if you think Capcom won't release another handheld MonHun. It's their golden egg. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=241122241&postcount=1616

>>381002289
>Splatoon
>Not a port
Nice grasping at straw nintendo drone

>>381005308
lack of variety/relevance in armors , as well as the absmal amount of relevant rewards for exploring each area, with half of what you get being fucking blood. they took a shit on crafting and having only one item to get weapons to max level avaliable per run (not counting chalices) is bullshit.

enemies and bosses are kinda same-ish with some exceptions and even if their design is done as such to fit the narrative, they could have a bit more variation than humanoid, wolf-like beast with flowing hair or tentacles and eyes.

and last but not least, there's the chalice dungeons, which were all-around shit. rehashed bosses, enemies and scenarios.

>but anon, most of those were fixed with the DLC, BB is now the best game ever!

it's absurd to have to pay extra for shit that was there and were from a fucking previous console generation. and that's just looking at it as a standalone game, if you take it as part of a series it gets even worse by completely shitting on iconic mechanics of the series such as poise, weight/evasion balance, the whole pvp/pve system and so on.

>>381010176
If that was true then why are they bringing it to home consoles?

>>381009918
>being this deluded

Cool. Nothing will stop niche devs from making games on the PS4, it keeps happening week.

>>381009959
That won't stop the other cheap ass devs

>>381002575
>Games
its filled with nothing but cinematic experiences (look at XCX, zelda and pokemon cutscenes, sony is bringing the games.

>>381010286
>splatoon 2
>port
you're the only one grasping at straws here, i bet you think titanfall 2 is the same game as the first

>>381009993
>their entire XX team is doing the Switch port
Unlikely.
The XX team is probably mostly working on the Switch game, which will probably be a portable version of World.
>never ever
Monster Hunter -> Monster Hunter Portable -> Monster Hunter Freedom
Monster Hunter 2 -> Monster Hunter Portable 2nd -> Freedom Unite
Monster Hunter tri -> Monster Hunter Portable 3rd -> Monster Hunter 3G
Monster Hunter 4 (it's already portable) -> Monster Hunter 4G
Monster Hunter X (already portable) -> Monster Hunter XX
Monster Hunter World (5) -> ???????

There's a pattern, it just happened to skip one gen. The portable version and then the G version of the portable version will be made by the side team while the main team works on Monster Hunter 6.

>>381010386
Oh fuck off ACfag.

>>381010027
I have a 4K TV. I don't know if this is a thing but will it actually look a lot worse on mine? I only have MK8 right now.

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>>381007118
No thanks nigger, have some anime.

>>381010176
>Besides, you're an idiot if you think Capcom won't release another handheld MonHun.

You do realize he said that it will come but they aren't working on it now since they're busy right? Even in the post you linked the guy has said they're stretched

>>381000757
I won't. I'll sit here for your eventual buyer's remorse because you clearly didn't own a WiiU on launch.

>>381010481

>Bloodborne is a rehash of Dark Souls because they use similar mechanics
>but Splatoon, the exact same game, somehow is totally different even though it's barely doing anything to address he issues from the prior game

>>381010362
It's just a dumbed down game for casuals, it's typical Capcom if you ask me. Everyone says they're smart but they're dumb as fuck. After Resident Evil 4 they made RE5 and RE6 which should tell you everything about them as a company.
>>381010368
>Nothing will stop niche devs from making games on the PS4
I don't really doubt it but it won't matter if it sells better on Switch now does it.

>>381007672
>"Then why does the story exist?"
Really?

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>>381010575

>>381010497
X could be considered 4th gen's equivalent of the "Portable" games

>>381000757
No cloud save or save transfers. I have over 10 hours of BotW on a friend's Switch, and I don't want to start a new file if I get my own.

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It's really expensive in my taco country.

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>>381010687

Yes, I asked a question tumblr. Why do games need to be "art" or be some kind of "cinematic" showpiece? A game with good gameplay can get by with literally nothing but a couple of words as a prologue. Pic related, look at all these "games" that need huge amounts of crutches just to sell.

>switch cucks have been hurt so badly by capcom after being refused XX that they're secretly getting a new game


HAHAHAHAHA

>>381001131
>ninbrats falling for this
pretty good 88/100

>>381001757
Yes it is, it's called Splatoon 2

>>381010627
in what part of that sentence did i mention ANYTHING about dark souls or bloodborne? are you trying to victimize yourself as a sonybro?

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>>381006859
>not cashing in on obvious "Pokemon is a movie game" meme because of Sun/Moon

>>381010725
Not really. X changed too much of the formula to be considered a portable version, and 4 already had its G game (which is always after the portable version).
X is a 'new gen', just made by the side team because World had a longer dev time than MH usually does.

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>he only gets one console

>>381010809
why not jump the border like everyone else? at this point i dont mind cause its spites trump

>>381000757
tfw not a poorfag and own both

>>381010656
>I don't really doubt it but it won't matter if it sells better on Switch now does it.

We'll see in 2 years time when the switch as settled

>>381010923
already addressed here>>381010832

>>381010583
a lot of it depends on how good or bad (or existant) your tv's built in upscaler is. My 1080p tv is on the cheap side and doesn't upscale 720p or 900p content well, and things look really really shitting on it if they aren't native 1080p or higher. Like using crt era games on an hdtv.

If your 4k tv doesn't upscale well botw will look really terrible on it since its 720p/900p depending on your version and that's like a 8x upscale

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>>381000757
Well that was easy.

>>381002319
>pic deleted before I came on the thread
REEEEEEE

>>381000757
Buy it for your kid if you have one, if not don't.

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>>381010863
>Every generation of Monster Hunter since the first gen has had a portable version
>Portable versions of Monster Hunter sell 3-5x their console counterparts in Japan
>Yet you think Capcom is going to stop developing portable Monster Hunter
Cute

>>381000757
You have to buy a PS4 because if you don't Sony will start Todd posting.

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>>381000757
>Buying a console for one game
Splatoon gets boring and I don't really care about mario.
Xenoblade would be worth it but I'd rather wait for a price drop.
>No snes or gba games
>no gamecube games
>no ports of wii games like mad world or the trauma center games
>but here! You can play street fighter 2 for the 20th time!

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I need to know that SMT HD is a switch exclusive like being directly said with no bullshit from the devs so i'll wait until TGS before buying one

>>381010945
How can Australian "men" even compete?

>>381011143
>You can play street fighter 2 for the 20th time!
for full price, what in the absolute fucking fuck

>>381010575
Don't you dare reply to me again

>>381009000
it's funny when people who can't read call others stupid. try doing it though, you'll see i said AFTER pokemon & co. which is the truth. no other game they release after their upcoming titles will generate a third of the hype of zelda.

>>381011110
>he doesn't know capcom
>he thinks capcom make smart decisions

MHW will sell 10 million on all platforms screencap this

>>381011232
u mad?

>>381011042
Yeah the upscaler on my TV is pretty poor which is not something I really considered. I've not got it yet, I'm picking my Swithc up tomorrow. Hoping for the best I gues.

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>>381010945
Between emulation, a hacked 3ds, older PC games I got way too much vidya to play mang.

Can't even justify buying a console at this point.
That and My interest in this hobby died a while back, only to be rekindled through emulation, hexen 2 and the penumbra games

>>381000757
Just buy a fucking PS2. Tons of games, tons of classics, and their fucking cheap as shit now too.

>>381011143
>price drop

it needs to be available for its price before there can be a price drop

>>381010832
Just leave dude your argument is autistic

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>>381008808
>These games are different in a couple ways so therefore cannot be compared critically what so ever

>>381011361
>MHW
>Selling over 3 million
Pfffthahahahahaha
You've deluded yourself.

Anyway the side team isn't going to just be dissolved when they make Capcom most of their money, and Japan isn't going to just start buying console Monhun at the level of portable MonHun
MH Portable World (or portable 5th) is on its way, late 2018 / early 2019.

>>381010871
Why do you think I'm trolling? I'm not trying to shit on Zelda or the Switch or anything.

>>381002671
>no portable options
>overpriced piece of plastic
>only good yakuza and bloodborne

>>381011316
metroid prime 4 already did

it's not even a year old and you're already making assumptions on how many great titles it will have in it's entire lifetime when it already has three big ones pumping in it's bloodstream

>>381011143
>literally begging to play the same, perfectly emulatable games over again

I like BloodBorne more than dark souls only for the sake of the Lovecraftian story. Other than that, I love Dark souls more than most games.

Also BloodBorne is not worth buying an entire console for unless you bought the console from a friend for cheap and BB came with it

>>381011575

>saying that a game's gameplay is more important than its story is "autistic"

Wew lad.

>>381011717
5. Mario, Metroid, Pokemon, Zelda, Fire Emblem.

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>>381001131

>>381011593
MHW will be the first game that moves millions and millions of units in japan and the pc release will be millions in the west on top of the millions on PS4 there

Also Res series is their best selling franchise anyways

>>381000757
Buy a WiiU

>>381011886
This is the most delusional post I've seen all week

>>381011886
Final Fantasy XIII on the PS3 couldn't sell 2 million copies in Japan with 3x the install base that the PS4 has there.
The only game on PS4 to pass a million sales (it's at like 1.05 million lifetime) in Japan is FFXV
Console games do not sell in Japan you dumb fuck.

>>381011364
Last chance

>>381011886
>resident evil is the best selling series.
>RE7 couldn't pass 3 million sales across all platforms worldwide
>despite all the marketing
>despite the twitch and youtube bait
>despite the glowing reviews

>Yet you've deluded yourself to believe MHW will sell over 3x as many copies as it

>>381012121
u mad?

>>381000757
Wait until 2018 for a switch, it'll have a couple of good titles then but now it's a waste of money. Just get the zelda game for the wii u.

>>381012083
>Console games do not sell in Japan you dumb fuck.

That's about to change with MHW, the game changer

>>381000757
The only game that might be worth buying on it is odyssey. And even then the switch has a lot of flaws and is a poorly designed console.

>>381000757
Well, your pic's switch games are all a minus so you just did yourself.

>>381005561
The literal only reason I don't own BB is the framerate. I tried it on a friends PS4 and it's barely playable, as long as I stick to 15 minute sessions. Any longer than that and I get literal headaches. Put that shit on PC and it's a day two purchase for me.

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>>381012375
>Tri couldn't change it even happening after MH was at its peak
>But World will
>Even though it's on a less popular platform that the Japanese don't like, whose software sales are lower than previous gens

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>FF panders to the west
>sells 5 million there with 1 in japan
>MH panders to the west
>????

>>381000757
Do what you want anon. Switch has some good game coming out on it, but I think the console is pretty shit and I won't buy it until the price drops a bit or I have a few games I really want to play (currently only Zelda, Mario, maybe Splatoon). Metroid Prime 4 and Pokemon Switch are still years away.

PS4 has a lot of good games out already but you might not be into all of them.

>>381006263
Playing multiplats on a console
I'd rather kill myself desu.

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>>381001131
I'm glad I actually got to try it before getting memed into buying a ps4.
It's a good game, but not really better than dark souls series, better in some aspects, worse in others. It's absolutely not worth $460.

>>381012770
I don't enjoy dead communities like titanfall 2 on pc

>>381001131
Only thing I'll give Bloodborne is better bosses.

>no Final Fantasy Dissidia or Tekken

Yeah fuck no

>>381012705
>someone being reasonable
get that shit outta here

>>381012631
>FF panders to Japan
>Sales stay around 7-8 million number for all titles since VII

>FF panders to west
>sells worse everywhere

>>381012860
>playing multiplayer fps
I'd rather kill myself desu.

>>381013248
>I'd rather kill myself desu.
I'd rather you kill yourself desu too.

>>381012809
>It's absolutely not worth $460.
It's worth even more.

>>381013160
>sells worse everywhere
Except the US, XV will overpass 13 soon overall without having to damage control and release 2 new sequels

>>381013569
Nope
XV is only around 2 million sales in the US across PS4 and Xbone.
XIII was like 3 or 3.5 million on PS3 and 360.

>>381007118
>fat white ass
lmao dumb niggers projecting their fat onto others is hilarious. Why are fat niggers always the most likely to make fun of fat people?

>>381007856
Basically this except for that SOTC Remaster..again.

Beyond that PS4 had nothing
Ironic though cause I just got a refurb one because I had some extra cash. Picked up Bloodborne and Titty Ninjas.
Any other games?
FF15 is on sale for 30 this week was thinking about getting that.

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>>381011769
I literally got a "new" 3ds to hack it and turn it into an emulation machine.
I don't mind playing snes and gba games over and over. There was a ton of shit I missed with the gamecube though, and I don't have a good enough PC to emulate it reliably. I'd get a wiiU and hack it for that reason but even then it's not worth it.

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This is now a FFXV shitpost thread.

Iggy is best wife

>>381000757
I bought a PS4 for BB over a year ago and I still haven't finished it. Not because it was bad, but because I was burnt out after playing DS3 and BB is basically DS3 but harder and faster.

I've considered picking up P5 but I don't really care about RPGs. Or games at all. But I still buy and play Nintendo shit because it's actually fun.

>>381014437

I genuinely don't feel any fun from nintendo products anymore. They water them down to the lowest capacity so that even children can beat them, and the hardest difficulty modes are either locked behind DLC, or are just gimmicky "enemy has more health" nonsense.

For goodness sake, people here have actually died in games like Donkey Kong or Zelda. It's embarassing.

>>381001274
What happened to the Wii U? It under-performed financially but the first party lineup had way more fun games than the Wii, at least in my opinion.

Low console sales are irrelevant to someone who actually plays the games for that console. I'm not going to have less fun because less people own it.

>>381001937
> not just playing mmos and avoiding the online play cost altogether.

>>381014609
Oh trust me, I feel you. They fucked up the entire Mario franchise by watering it down until SM3DW started going in the right direction. The only games I really enjoyed on my 3DS were Animal Crossing and Zelda.

But I feel like they've finally got their shit back together after the last few years of making super inoffensive, "safe" titles in their big franchises. They successfully modernized Zelda and broke the cycle of it being a linear action-adventure game. Odyssey looks like it's doing the same thing to Mario by bringing back what people want mixed with actually logical gameplay decisions.

Wii U eventually became a beast when Nintendo rekindled their abilities at making kickass multiplayer titles. Sure Smash 4 was no Melee, but it was still fun as hell compared to Brawl. MK8 is arguably the best kart racer to date. Their new IPs like Splatoon and ARMS are designed to be fun and succeed at it.

I feel like they just stagnated for a while and are starting to be more open to ACTUAL innovation and new talent. Aonuma pulled his head out of his ass for BotW and thankfully Miyamoto seems to be fucking off to non-vidya projects so he's not holding back Nintendo's dev teams. The Switch is selling well, and I have hope that it will end up being the new Gamecube except actually successful. Only "bad" thing is that third party support is laughable, but if Nintendo can keep up their recent streak of actually good software then they've got their heads in the game.

>>381015540
exactly why I have a ps4, pc, and switch. feels good not to be poorfag

>>381015858
I'd love to pick up a Switch, but I've already 100%'d BotW on Wii U, don't have a job right now, and Nintendo is still pulling their supply manipulation antics.

Hopefully I can get employed and Nintendo can actually ship consoles before the holidays come around.

>>381015540
>They successfully modernized Zelda and broke the cycle of it being a linear action-adventure game.
you do realize that's not necessarily an improvement, right? first off, i don't get why a game has to be open world to be considered "modern". TP feels modern enough and it's mostly action adventure, with only a partial open world. linearity is good if it means there's more content and it's more packed together. look at LttP for example where it's full of content and you always have something to do anywhere you go, often even the second or third time you go somewhere, and there's a constant feeling of progression which is also nice. BotW on the other hand feels sort of like beth games where once you go somewhere you've usualy done everything and there's no need to go back there. it's a one and done kind of thing and when a lot of these are same-ish shrines and the likes it can get boring fast. even having small stories and notes and such attached to them doesn't save caves and dungeons in skyrim from getting tiresome, and in zelda we don't even have that.

>>381005043
As should tripfags

>>381016519
yeah bro I mean good on you for having your priorities straightened out. I feel like waiting a bit after launch is never a bad idea--I just got my ps4 last year. come this time next year you'll have a solid selection of games

>>381000757
>not getting both
>not also building a high end PC for all those Xbox 1x and PS4 "exclusives"
>not being part of the idort master race

>>381016630
Modernization might not be the right term. What I'm getting it is that the design process of BotW seems like it was very intuitive, and the devs didn't feel the need to leave out features that players would come to expect. If you expected a feature to be in BotW, it generally was there. Previous Zelda titles have been fairly restrictive in gameplay and this was the first time they really just let loose with player freedom, to the point where it stopped being comparable to previous Zelda games.

I'm not saying BotW is a perfect 10/10 game! Obviously it had problems, some of which seem like they could have been easy fixed. But it's a huge fucking leap in the right direction for Nintendo's design philosophy to not hold them back so they can be as ambitious as they can reasonably deliver.

For the record, ALttP is my second favorite game (overall) of all time, MM is my second favorite 3D Zelda, and TP is my least favorite 3D Zelda.

I love the player freedom and non-linear segments of ALttP. Similarly, I felt that BotW had high content density and great exploration. There was always something to do or somewhere to go despite the worlds being so big. ALttP even let you tackle some dungeons in different orders, though not to as high of a degree.

Majora's Mask and BotW had very similar approaches to side content, in that MM constantly distracted you with sidequests and BotW always had something in the corner of your eye that warranted investigating.

I started replaying TP recently and I find it to be extremely linear. People always joke about map markers or whatever, but for the first few hours of the game you're literally following map markers and running back and forth across empty fields. BotW never had COMPLETELY empty fields you had to walk across. There would at least be patches of trees or puzzles scattered across the landscape with a Korok or some resources.

BotW always has unturned secrets in familiar areas unless you've 100%ed the game.

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>>381001131
>It's worth buying a PS4 only for that game.

>>381016630
>>381018053
I agree with shrines being sameish, though. They definitely should have come up with biome-specific shrine themes and groups of shrines that have completely different approaches instead of just being the same old puzzle atop floating blocks.

>>381002650
It's categorically better than Dark Souls. You're allowed to like a worse game, but it's definitely a worse game.

>>381000757
It has 1 game worth a fuck that's *also in WiiU *also on PC.

>>381018053
man I completely agree. I haven't been a nintendofag since the gamecube and I generally find Zelda games to be a tad overrated but god damn BOTW is one fine game.

>>381001131
Soulsborne has better combat, bosses, and story. I'll give you that.

But Zelda is an action adventure game, not an action RPG. I'd love it if BotW's combat was better, though you can't just overlook the physics-based gameplay mechanics, puzzle solving, or exploration. Nor can you say that the world design/atmosphere in drastically different genres of fiction are comparable.

Soulsborne is a dark fantasy RPG about trekking a constrained and unsettling environment, developing your character's skills, and skill-based combat often involving brutal boss fights.

Zelda is a high fantasy action adventure game about traveling the world, solving puzzles, and mechanic-based combat in an expansive fantasy kingdom.

>>381000757
nintendo is for babies.

>>381018448
I feel like BotW is what happens when you give a bunch of people who actually know what the fuck they're doing an unlimited budget and full creative freedom. Though it seems like they did shoot a bit too high with the handful of unfinished-feeling content.

>>381010879
Got heem

>>381018976
The game feels completely undercooked though? All the weapons, shrines, enemies, and divine beasts lack variety... And the world is just an empty collect-a-thon.
It feels like they spent all the money on the detailed physics and interaction and ran out of time/money when it came time to fill the world with actual shit, make a variety if enemies, and add some flourishes to the combat.

>>381001516
no commercial game should be $60, but I feel it's justified at full price considering it's an entirely new game and not just splatoon with new content

there's a new story, the entire campaign is new, all the maps are new or redone, there's new gameplay modes, all of the weapons are new or have been rebalanced, and there's a handful of features that have only been teased

which really feels like a full game to me, but idk about you fampire

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Here you go OP

>>381019373
They spent a lot of time on enemy AI and had a difficult time coming up with normal enemies since there's only a handful of humanoid foes in Zelda. Obviously not totally excusable, but there's a reason.

For a first attempt, I think they did a great job. I think they best thing they could have done/can do in the future is to add more RPG mechanics. It'd make the game a little less free but would give much more room for rewards to discover and collect since dragon balls and korok seeds end up feeling overwhelming when you're endgame and don't need any more health or inventory slots.

Add collectables we can spend to increase attack/defense (and scale back gear appropriately), more armor sets with different effects that are actually useful, repairing/upgrading weapons to prevent them from degrading to dust, etc, etc.

I believe they can fix many of the game's problems with how far they went between SS and BotW.

>>381010286
if thats a port then so is every single shooter sequel ever created you dumbass sonybro

>>381019834
meant to say korok seeds and balls feel underwhelming

If we somehow get MHXX localized (I still fucking believe dammit) winter is gonna be glorious with Switch