FFXIV Stormblood

i bought a bunch of Shire gear with my poetics for my SAM now i hit 60. I'm ilvl 235 but my weapon is the starter 115 one.

If i dont want to get padjali, whats my best option?

So FFXIV is THE MMO to play in 2017 right? Seems like the game has no competition besides WoW.

coldsteel is fixed move along

>>380990209
It's pretty fun yeah, then again I've never tried another MMO since this was the first my friends could get me to touch

>>380990209
Depends if you want to play a real MMO or not.

If you want to play the best WoW-clone, yes XIV is the best MMO.

>>380990405
what is a "real MMO"?

>>380990472
One that requires player interaction ala "MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER"

Not a single player RPG that just so happens to be online.

>>380990328
Does that mean something is personnel now?

>people already erping in the hotsprings

glass this planet

>>380990150
I think it's like 500 poetics for the shire weapon

>>380990150
There's an NPC vendor in Ishgard that sells ilvl 250 gear now for gil by the market board. It's only normal quality though so it's roughly the same as the primal gear that came before shire. Not sure if it'll be an upgrade for you or not. Try there.

>>380990590
you need player interaction in ffxiv to be endgame successful. can't do savage or extremes without communication, can't reach top rank in feast without communication, etc

>>380990717
So content that 2% of the game's population requires player interaction?

>people finally got past raubahn and pipin
fuck
Kugane was so comfy
now it's full of faggots with the crowd noise effect everywhere

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>actually try to win during pvp
>keep getting shitters who join just to afk because of the exp boost

>>380990824
there's more to it. but this argument is pointless, anything I say will just have you going "b-but that's not required!"

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Is duty finder machine still broke

>>380990987
Nah, been spamming PotD for SAM all day

please explain the current early release major bugs that have not been patched yet

I renewed my subscription but I think I'm already burnt out after like 24 hours.

The thought of running PotD/ fate-chaning to 50 on my secondary classes just puts me off.

>>380990824
sums up every mmo including everquest. no need to talk to other players when you can read up guides and play with bots.

For trash packs not close to a boss should I Meikyo Shisui a a Jinpu for the attack bonus into Mangestu and Oka? I cant believe I just typed that weeb shit.

>>380990150
rip

Got home from work and was able to complete Raubahn right away. Glad they fixed it and I didn't drive myself crazy sitting there clicking for hours. Is Pipin still clogged?

>>380990964
That's not the argument at all.

I agree that the end-game requires communication, the very very end-game. Other than that it's just "Queue with randoms who don't say a word and rush through this dungeon/trial as fast as possible so I don't have to kill myself" content.

The game is an empty husk. There's no content outside of end-game. Everyone's goal is the get to end-game as quickly as possible and upgrade their gear as quickly as possible. There's no side content that isn't dependent on level. There's no player interaction outside of dungeons/trials.

The world is dead.

When will they give me option to hide job gauge and show all that stuff as buffs like before?

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LOG OUT AND LET ME IN YOU IDLING FUCKS REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>380991145
>every mmo including everquest
The difference is EQ didn't have this huge focus on end game that every WoW-clone does. It took a very long time to reach max level in EQ. There was a lot of content released that wasn't ONLY end game.

>read up guides and play with bots
What are you even talking about?

>photo shit in kugane

fuck off

>>380991228
>There's no content outside of end-game
disregarded your retarded post

>O N E quest where you pilot a magitek suit to fuck shit up before going back to fetch quests and "find faggot in red area" quests
yoshi..........

>>380991342
scripted eq bots were smarter than real players because they had everything down to the exact science due to datamining encounter scripts

also no need to actually get gud when you read a research paper tier guide done by another mmo autist.

1-3 PLD
4-6 RDM
7-9 DRG
0 Full on yooooooooooo

>spend all day stuck on Raubahn Savage
>wake up to see it's apparenrly fixed

Well it's about fucking time, Jesus

>>380991159
>>380991159
>>380991159
Warning: Game discussion inquiry

are people still getting the 90k error

LET
THE
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREVELS
BEGIN

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>couldn't play last night
Everyone is super far now

>>380991159
never use meikyo shisui for jinpu, only use it for sen skills.

>nin with an arrow
>1.8 gcd
this isn't even my final form

>>380991821

not really, most people are barely getting past pipingrad

>run lv50 content as rdm
>scatter spam
>get a personal balance
>2 commends
hehehe

>>380991847
Do I just hardcast Jinpu then for trash or just get into the AoE rotation immediately?

>>380991228

neckbeard

>>380990150
Shire sword with upgrade is a few hundred poetics, comes out to 270. 255 sword in ishgard I think

What's the most cyborg-ish armor for Samurai if I want to go full Revengeance?

>>380992061
>>380991847
I do Mangetsu->Oka->Tenka Goken->another Mangetsu for huge burst on trash. You can use the third part of Meikyo after Iaijutsu.

>>380991124
I think the susano bug isn't fixed. If you emote while you zone in (including persistent emotes), you'll crash when you leave.

Were there any important cutscenes before raubahn?

>>380991871
>skill speed now affects auto attacks
>auto attacks fill your ninki gauge
>meld all skill speed
h-hayai

Is SMN really that bad off?

>>380990906
You know you can disable that right?

>>380992061
do shifu then jinpu first, don't finish their combos. Once you got your buffs up, use your fuga AoE combos. if there are 2 or less targets left then start doing your single target stuff.

Do HW Speed Maps increase your flight speed or only movement on the ground?

>>380991218
No I just sailed through

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Man, why did they turn calm and hot fighter not-Yda/Lyse to a stupid annoying weak cunt?
Her previous voice was the voice of a goddess, now she sound like a fucktard.

>>380992391
i don't care if it ends up being a dps loss i'm fucking doing it

>>380992436
I do now

>>380992408
It isn't as bad as people were speculating. Fester being 200 potency was a mistranslation. How I used to manage aetherflow stacks is fucked now that you can't have aetherflow and aethertrail at the same time, but I think it's all worth it just to be able to summon bahamut. Sucks that his aoe was fucked tho

Is Ysholta really dead? Again?

Can anyone give me a damage number for a typical melee dps auto attack? Curious.

>>380991159
That's a waste. Go through your sen generation as per number. Dump the first load. MS. Build another set of three. And dump again.

>>380990057
Every content pre-SB is so boring and slow now wtf.

>>380992102
where to obtain, idylshire?

>>380992670
no

What stas should BRDs now keep high? CRIT > DCRIT > DET > SKSP?

>>380992768
depends on your level

>>380992640
Was anyone's AoE NOT fucked?

>>380992820
Yes. 255 in ishgard, 270 from hismena/sabina and the upgrade woman
>>380992879
70. Or 60, either one.

>>380992883
PLD because they actually got AoE now

>saw SAM announced
>Pissed that not only do we not get BLU, but the expac is gonna be packed with Doman shit over ala mhigo.
>Shit on the class as it looks like it's a slow and boring monk.
>Try it
>It's fun as all hack and my new main
Fug

>>380992883
PLD :^)

>>380992883
MNK's AOE didn't change

Feldora and Yotsuyu both just really need a good dicking.

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>>380992967
this is a level 60 samurai at ilvl 267

just woke up
can we do raubahn yet or can i go back to sleep

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>>380990597
Underrated

>>380993038
I just wish more focus was on monk in this expac. Is wildergard (monk trainer, forgot his name) present in sb story at all like estinien was? Pretty fucking stupid if he isn't, being the last surviving fist of ralghr and all

>>380993159

He was unfucked on Behemoth about an hour ago. Don't know if it's changed.

>>380993207
I don't know. All I know is I really would be preferred if Doma wasnt a thing despite how much I love samurai so far.

>>380993097
Thank you friend

>>380993159
You could do him since yesterday. Now you should be able to still, if you can even get in.

What's the update for today? People still getting 90k'd in pvp, potd, etc?

>>380991145
FFXI required player communication for the level grind.

>>380993390
I haven't had any issues yet. I kept getting 90k'd from the rdm level 60 instance last night; just gave up. Was able to do it this morning. Was able to get into cold steel as well.

>>380993390
Yeah was doing Bardam's Mettle. Got 90k'd on the first boss.

I hate not being able to see cards of other ASTs in parties now. Why was that removed?

>>380992883
PLD gained, NIN gained because theirs was abysmal, MNK stayed mostly the same.

>>380992967
apparently i need stuff like micro tomestones and alexandrian gears though, is there something i can just buy for poetics?

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>meffrid getting fukt
We all knew it would happen because SE are incompetent and like to show spoilers, but i'm still mad

>>380993642
Shiny job gauge lmao

>>380993281
I wasn't looking forward to doma either, but yanxai and the steppes were very good. I really like the music in those areas as well.

>>380993745
Nah, you can get the micro tomestone and the upgrade material for poetics now too.

>>380993642
Because it wasn't a intentional feature.
They removed job mechanics from status bar to give more space for more important buffs and debuffs.

>>380993745
Oh shit I forgot the gears. You need 4; each one from running a12. Just go for the 255 wep until you get a better one from the story. You'll be fine I promise

>>380993909
yeah i figured it out. They're 500 though which i cba getting. im just gonna grab a vendor one and run in

>>380992541
She sounded like Nanamo before with that fake bubbly tone

>>380993940
Nvm, see
>>380993909

Things looked grim for us after Carteneau, didn't they?

>>380990824
No, FFXIV Raids are casual enough that the majority of people do it or at least tries to. Also for Hunts, Treasure Hunts, Fate grinding, Tank mount farm, some silly challenge or WT people usually get together.

>reach first stormblood dungeon
>i've been playing as my nin
>queue time is 30m

I want Lyse to ride my face as until she cums

And calls me ralghr

>>380994128
>Queue as AST
>Actual instant pop

Feels good man

>first actual wait as dps this whole expansion
>its for snake tits

>>380994178
She's gonna call you Papalymo and you will call her Yda.

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what a gay fucking weapon

>>380994284
nvm, popped literally as post was accepted

I JUST WANT ALL THESE SIDEQUESTS TO END
THE COMPLETIONIST IN ME WANTS TO DO THEM ALL
BUT DEAR GOD SHOW MERCY

>>380994340

What the FUCK is her problem?

Anything that I should know about doma castle dungeon before trying, anyone has 1 hit kill moves like first boss in steppes?

>>380992883

Ninjas

Where does everyone get that cloud mount

>>380992883
Red mage boys!

>>380994530

It was from an Amazon promotion like 2 months ago. Only way to get it now is if it comes to cash shop.

>>380994530
It was an event mount with an amazon promotion

>>380994530
US-only Amazon promo a couple months back.

Why do healers have so much trouble in this game? The three times ive ran Susano with people the healers just cant keep up despite claiming to know the fight and its ridiculously predictable damage. Plus people who haven't caught on that you can sprint in combat now that still get hit by his ground AoE.

>enochian tied to af/ui
eh

>doton, hide before the server ticks, katon
if raubahn hadn't been reachable i would have been mad i leveled sam, nin is fun despite the simpler rotation

>>380994779
now you can sustain it in situations where the tank touches himself for a minute between pulls or some faggot baits an aoe into you. you're also less of a dead weight on your bonus clears

>>380994756
I did it without much of a problem.
he does deal a pretty large amount of damage for a non-extreme content though

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>all the good mhiggers die
>fucking cat survive

Has Raubahn/Pipin been fixed? Today's father's day so I cant play until much later

>>380994756
>mting Susan
>both times he does the sword event one of the healers run up to block it
f-fuckers I wanna block the big sword

>>380994734
Fuck those stupid things

>>380995013

Apparently. Just did both of them within the last hour with no problem.

Why is urianger such a fedora core

>>380994756
Healer here
Killed susano with first try 2 days ago without much problem
But 2 times I got this trial in duty finder was nightmare, people not stacking, people flying in the air, tanks got hit on the 70-80% hp with single strike, I would believe last one part is mechanic but didn't saw shit like this during first kill
Generally if party smart enough to stay in the melee range there no problem

>>380994956
Just need to get used to it, I guess. Now I keep losing it if my B3 goes off just as Astral Fire falls off.

>>380995014
this

if you aren't blocking the sword as a SAM, you haven't truly experience FFXIV

RULES OF NAATUREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>380995298
yeah, it can be maintained now but i doubt it's harder to lose. the af/ui timers are nasty. at least you had a buffer before

>>380990057
Garlemald did nothing wrong

>>380990209
All the good rpg won't be out until 2018 so yep

>>380994340
Can't wait to kill this bitch.

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Should I be spamming potd 1-10 or 51-60 for leveling my rdm?

everyone in my FC is praising WHM to high heavens now. what gives? is thin air holy spam that satisfying?

Holy fuck MCH does insane DPS now at lvl 70. I'm pulling nearly 2x what my friend does on SAM. Before you say "but the SAM is a shitter" we're both from the same static with 100% HW content cleared.

>/v/ was wrong again
Are you shitters EVER right?

>>380995152
I don't know, whenever he speaks I completely skip every dialogue he does

>>380995635
51-60

So I finally just made it to actual Stormblood content and holy shit I just realized the female monk from the trailer is fucking Yda.

>>380995669
Is ACT working again?

>>380995754
Yeah.

>Cat boy named ichigo zangetsu spamming samurai aoe

Just fucking end it

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am i the only one who can't figure out the DRG job gauge with the eyes?

>>380991290
No, I'm gonna be a huge pizza shit and craft while I go to the movies.

>On the 70 Rhgar reach is hub again
>Everyone will leave god tier kugane for this shithole because of tome vendors and etc
whyyyyyyyyy

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honestly, she isn't that bad, FFXIV will force a romance between the WoL and her when she inevitably comes back

and you will like it

So how is Omega compared to your old server? No meme answers because I genuinely want to know.

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How are you guys going on the Stone, Sky, Sea for Susano EX?

I was able to clear it with 4 seconds remaining on SMN in 304 gear so hopefully that means I'm not complete shit at the class. What times are you guys getting? I'm hoping my time is at least decent and SMN isn't completely irrevocably fucked for now.

>>380995980
>wanting lag and hearing "HAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHAH HOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII" in your comfy town
????????

>>380995894
>Use Mirage Dive 4 times
>Use geir
>Use super geir for big damage
>repeat

>>380990209
It's the only MMO besides WoW and Runescape that's actually thriving.

>>380995669
SMN does the lowest 90% percentile DPS of all classes.

So..... Congratz on being shit at the game.

>>380995993
WoL is canonically female, not because of yoshi's meme answer, but because we had fucking 3 male love interests while all female were just waifu baits like Lyse without any real romantic subtext,oh and whores mentioning about wanting to have sex with you

>That one job you love the aesthetics/lore for but cannot stand the gameplay.

Which one is it for you? For me it's DRG.

>>380995669
I started leveling MCH because I'm disappointed with DRK and even with lvl 60 I'm ripping aggro from SAMs and RDMs in potd.

>>380991228
Join an FC or a LS my dude. The overwold isn't as empty as you're making it seem.

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>character looks down
>shakes head
>this is somehow a show of sadness, pain, whatever for characters
If anything this is dumb.

>>380995797
Are you gonna let us know where to get this secret Stormblood update for the ACT plugin?

why does no one play tank?

>>380996109
>SMN isn't completely irrevocably fucked for now.
yeah, about that...

>>380996236
SAM, MCH, WHM, SCH

>>380996415
too stressful

>reach azim steppe
>voice actors finally say Xaela
fuck
I've been saying it wrong this whole time?

my friend is level 67 and is seemingly getting 1mil exp as a reward for completing any DF dungeon

She just did a level 50 dungeon with me on my AST and got 1 mil exp for doing it wheras i got 51k. Is that a bug or is there some sort of boost?

>Players in queue: 2026

The fuck is going on

>>380996196
SAM, not SMN: retard.

Anyone got a link to the soundtrack?

>>380996415
you introduced 2 new dps gutted 2 other tanks and gave people the option as a catgirl in panties with a katana.

>>380996415
Because it's boring and people mostly treat you like shit. I played DRK exclusicely for months, now I switched to dps.

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Best fight this entire expansion so far

>>380996353

I just interpret it as the WoL being fed up with all the shit going on and shaking their head in disbelief.

>>380996415
>tfw tank
>healsluts want to erp and suck my cock
>parties automatically invite me because they need tanks
>guaranteed raid spot because low amount of tanks in general
>easiest job in the entire game

Feels fucking good.

>>380996795
>healsluts want to erp and suck my cock
>guaranteed raid spot because low amount of tanks in general
Shit that never happens
Especially last one

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tfw I'm actually fucking mad

>>380996795
>>380996889
If anything raiding as a tank is always the limiting factor cause you only ever need 2 and their job is fairly easy.

>>380994982
kuuga

>>380994982
The cat is the best one

>Got tricked into going RDM when everyone said SAM is shit the first day
>Now it is the opposite

Fuck you guys.

>>380996889
Shitter detected. Git gud skills and git gud cock :^)

Blizzard saw the success of EQ and thought, "What if we took EQ and made it completely soloable and extremely casual?".

Blizzard then released World of Warcraft to great success enticing people who normally couldn't dedicate enough time to MMOs before it.

The issue here is that World of Warcraft broke all the rules of what makes MMOs MMOs.
>No need for player interaction
>Extensive use of built-in fast travel (not player run)
>No penalty upon dying
>Monsters aren't difficult to kill nor pose any danger
And it only got worse from there as the game went on..
>Cross server content
>Dungeon finder
>Portals in every major city to every major city
>Flying mounts

WoW turned modern "MMOs" into Facebook/MSN/Myspace.

Now every other AAA publisher saw what Blizzard did and wanted to make a quick buck as well. So for the next 10 years we got these HUGE budget WoW clones expecting to build up the same subscription numbers as Blizzard. Well it turns out that the target audience wasn't as big as these companies expected and almost every single one of these games crashed and burned.

Meanwhile anyone still playing MMOs before WoW are growing up. They don't have 8 hours a day to put into FFXI/EQ/DaoC/etc. They start playing WoW/WoW-clones as well. Younger people have no idea what MMOs were before WoW and play WoW-clones as their "first" MMOs.

We'll never get another true AAA MMO, but that's okay. There are some niche games coming from veteran developers who worked on the classics. Pantheon, Ashes of Creation, Camelot Unchained, etc. And bigger publishers are starting to get more experimental, but unfortunately still playing it too safe with how casual the games are. We should be happy with that. In the meanwhile, private servers like project99 are extremely populated and great fun.

It could be a while, but there'll be a return of true MMOs.

>>380997156
>playing either of the new classes off the bat

>>380997021
Why?
This guy wanted to kill his own citizens just because they wanted to work instead of lazing around
Told you to fuck off when you actually needed help with crystal braves
Broke forest city laws without caring that elementals would kill innocent people because of his actions

>>380997021
>Help his ass out way back in the level 30 range.
>Turns into a bro
>gets cut down by a kinslayer

I'm going to make cartenau look like a fucking joke

>>380997221
So, are you just going to copypasta this to every thread in existence now?

who /bard/ here

>>380994982
The cat isn't bad. One of the female adventure companions who isn't shit. Why couldn't the blind fucking cat die instead?

Ohoho, it's time to log in for some comfy HW MSQ and SAM levelling at the same time, shit is so cash!
>4k queue on Cerberus
I guess i-it's not like I wanted to play at all today.

>>380997221
Enjoy your 3-day vacation buddy.

>>380997221
>They don't have 8 hours a day to put into FFXI/EQ/DaoC/etc.
Was/Is that supposed to be much? LOOOL

>>380997305
Well, he thinks that EQ wasn't casual shitfest that killed genre
So yes, he retarded enough for this

>>380991228
>There's no content outside of end-game
lol

>>380996197
This. WoL is a girl and Harche was her lover. And only love.

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Dog race when??

>>380997305
Why would I not post facts in a thread about MMOs?

>>380997221
>MMOs are a notoriously grand venture hinging on selling people an unfinished game and the promise of further development
>Kickstarter is crowdfunding a game concept and hoping it delivers to everyone's expectations
>combining those two and thinking anything will come out of it
People have gotten so used to MMO launches fucking up its stockholm syndrome, not to mention for a new MMO those first few months are make or break, if bugs persist too long, the game is unbalanced, server issues leading to drops in ability to play, people just go back to a "stable" MMO.

Kickstarter MMOs are the worst thing that could ever be possibly Kickstarted.

SAM is literally perfect. That's all I wanted to say.

shit i forgot to do the quests before the first meeting with yotsuyu. Can I go back if I go to kugane and take the ferry somehow? Or will i have to wait until later?

Gotta say I'm happy they finally let my healer fucking heal in a story cutscene.

>>380997495
they actually talked recently about considering the wolf people race to be the next playable class

won't ever happen though cuz their fags

so is stormblood worth getting with the content yet or not
if anything ill wait for a few updates like I did with heavensward for actual endgame stuff

>>380997221
What the fuck is this drivel? I'm not reading through this because I see after 2 lines that the whole thing is bullshit. None of this is true for OG vanilla WoW, maybe for nu-Blizzard WoW, but I don't even know the state of WoW since I quit before the end of TBC.

>>380997495
Not before Viera

How do I get invited to exclusive linkshells?

>>380997495
hopefully never

>>380997762
be a lalafell

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I need a strong au'ra bf

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Is NA still fucked?

>>380990057
Oh, it's just an expansion for this shitshow. nevermind.

Thought it was some cool viking MMO. Tell your shills to stop calling it Stormblood and start calling it FFXIV

>>380997664
Depends if you care about at least one of the following things:
>SAM
>RDM
>MSQ

If the answer to either of this is yes, then yes get it. If you want endgame/raid content, it probably isn't.

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Finally completed the story. What now?

>anyone wait until daytime to continue MSQs? I feel like they're a bit odd done in the middle of the night.

How are you liking the new class quests? I didn't care much for DRKs until the 65 battle. Cool fight

>>380997668
Every statement is true for vanilla WoW as well.

If you played an MMO before WoW you would be able to realize this. It's hard for WoW-babbys to understand because this is all they've ever known.

>>380997668

There is some truth behind his post. WoW did copy paste the base stuff my EQ and made it player friendly back in that time. Then Blizz decided to take it up a notch during Wrath with the super casualization and streamlined way of gameplay we all know and hate today.

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>fps sidequest
>arrow keys

>>380998134
No it isn't go and fuck yourself with this shit.

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMkVSy944FY

>>380998198
I don't care. The first two lines are false, these do not apply to Vanilla WoW, not even to TBC. I don't give a shit about Wrath or anything that comes after. It should have been specified ight there if he was talking about that, but he didn't so his post is full of shit.

>>380996197
As a WoL (male) I was starting to get pretty confused at my dinner with Aymeric.

>>380998213
One of these days I need to make a Momoka MCH

>>380996415
Thankless job, fuck up and the party wipes.

Can't wait to do my first SB dungeon and have some fag blurt out every mechanic during the loading screen.

>>380998545
>Oh no I want to run around in dungeons like a blind retard

>>380996415
Incredibly boring with no real challenge. Even not fucking up a dps rotation is harder than managing enmity and turning the dragon ass towards the party

>>380998574
>not wanting to experience new content blind

>>380996415
Like most have said, it's a thankless job. You trudge through it either because:
>1. Fast queues
>2. You genuinely like the job
>3. For the sake of being able to cover the role
Otherwise it's rather stressful compared to kicking back and just playing a DPS.

>>380998645
I'm not a retard, so that's correct. I don't want to do that.

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Why are people such whiners in the game? I called out some Germans in novice chat and got about 10 people to tell me to watch my language, ban threats and racism blaming

>>380998692
I bet you watch dungeon guides while waiting in que

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>>380996670

>>380998349
What the fuck, is that Bahamut?

>>380998752
what did you write exactly?

>>380998692
Expected nothing else from a mr happy cock sucker

>>380998776
>Not doing that or ERP'ing in between dungeon runs

>>380996196
Source?

>Yda was actually Lyse
>Yda died 6 years ago
>5 year gap between 1.0 and ARR
>Undisclosed timeframe from start of ARR to current.
>Undisclosed timeframe from start off 1.0 to end

So did Yda die sometime during 1.0 or during the Calamity?

>>380998645
Nobody ever learns unless you spam the mechanics in chat, and even then most of the time they don't listen. Go fight Simon Says in Cutter's Cry if you disagree

How old is Krile suppose to be?
She sounds like a woman in her mid-30's but being a potato it's kinda hard to tell.

>>380998254
Please point out which part was not true for Vanilla and I will provide evidence that it was.

>>380998690
>Tanking
>More stressful than healing/dpsing
>"Thankless" job when you get showered for bonuses for just showing up
Oh please, in the history of MMOs its always been:
Good DPS > Healing > Tanking > Shitty DPS
In terms of how hard it is to do.

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Wow, no wonder she hates fantasy japan
Fucking bastards deserved everything

What the hell is the point of running the dungeon if you've already watched someone else run the dungeon? Get better at it organically and stop being a mouth breathing walkthrough follower.

>Otherwise it's rather stressful compared to kicking back and just playing a DPS.
Any other MMO maybe, not this one

>>380998692
>I'm not a retard
>because I want everything explained to me beforehand

alright

>>380998795
Thats Shinryu, aka Bahamut/Leviathan 2.0

>>380998913
should be around the same age as Minifilia

>>380998917
None of them.

>>380998978
Forgot to quote
>>380998690

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>>380998980
>I want my dungeon runs to take twice as long because wiping to bosses and sticking a finger up my ass is more immersive

>>380998835
goddamn nazis again

>>380992023
it's our way for saying "thanks for not being one of the billion douchebag SAMs in pinapple hair".

>>380998946
I dunno, I feel like when a tank is competent it's basically invisible. It's only when a tank is really really good that it becomes apparent. It's always easy to tell when you have fast dps or a good healer.

>>380992883
BLM?

Lost 20 potency on Fire 2 and Flare got reduced by more past second target, but they also got AoE thunder and Foul which is just an even bigger flare but free.

>>380999097
>thinking mechanics are so hidden that it would take anything more than a few attempts to get the general idea

>>380998946
depends on the game, healer difficulty tends to scale higher than other roles against general game/dungeon difficulty

Wildstar had genuinely challenging dungeons, and healing was the hardest role by far

>>380998874
I wish I played FF14 before ARR if only to appreciate this kind of speculation.

>>380999097
You really need a fucking guide for a 4 MAN DUNGEON?

Hilarious

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>NIN does less dps than SMN
AHAHAH HOLY FUCKING SHIT INTO THE KEKSHED THEY GO 3600 DP FUCKING S AHAHAHAHA

>Tfw playing BLM and losing Ragin Strikes
>Get a boosted enochian instead
I'm so torn

>>380999205
>I wish I played FF14
Trust me, you don't

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>>380999202
>Having any attempts more than 1 on a boss

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>>380998692
>being a brainlet were you can't work out dungeons mechanics for yourself

>>380999202
>few attempts
If you need more than one shot at the piss easy 4-mans, you're the reason why dungeon guides exist and should be watching them at all times.

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>>380999097
>I want to blast through all content because if I am not at the endgame as soon as fucking possible and complaining about the lack of content I will literally die from coniptions

>>380999278
Susano

>>380999097
Do you really wipe on bosses in this game? Especially on normal dungeon runs? Holy shit dude.

I just hit 70, did every dungeon and trial blind, literally the only time our party wiped was on Lakschmi because the healers didn't grab the orbs. 2nd attempt it became obvious and we cleared it.

BTW Gotetsu dies.

You know at this point I would think in canon whenever the WoL now gets offered a drink, his/her first instinct would be to either throw the drink into the guy's face or have him drink it first and see if it is poisoned/spiked.

>>380999203
Healer difficulty scales with your group, good groups need less healing, shitty groups need way more.

>>380999278
>>380999315
See:
>>380998875

I actually like wiping because if a dungeon isn't challenging then I'm bored but you severely underestimate how stupid this playerbase is.

>>380999036
Please provide how they are not true as well.

>>380999360
>>380999223
>>380999407


If you wipe at a dungeon, just remember - it's 4 man and easy, why are you taking more than one try at a boss anyway :^)

holy fuck level 60 samurai has a insane crit/direct hit rate. just did sohr khai and about 1 out of 2 attacks were a crit/direct.

>>380999407
>Gotetsu dies
Ok, but what about Gosetsu? That dudes mah nigga

>>380999501
Why not just say half your attacks?

>Tfw did a programming test that was 10% of my grade
>Studied all night instead of stormblooding
>Only got 66.57% .
Thanks to the anon who told me to study all night instead of sleeping. I feel I would have gotten a much lower grade had you not encourage me to study (though I still failed)

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b honest...who has the best midriff?

b nice 2 no bully

>>380999541
english not my first language

>>380999470
I mean, you're not wrong. If you actually wipe in a 4-man, you're exactly who those guides are made for, i.e. the retarded.

>>380999270
I know, but I feel like I only experienced half the story.

>>380999637
My au'ra girl does

>>380999614
Did you get lost looking for facebook

>>380999470
Lakschmi is an 8man trial, you would know that if you weren't one of the shitters standing in line behind Raubahn.

>>380999637
I'd fuck both of them desu

>>380999637
The one on the left because she isn't pasty and looks like she's slightly less anorexic

>>380999637
Lyse, just becaise shes actually useful and isnt constant damsel in distress status or a crystal slut

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>people go on about how dumb Elezen look
>reach Heavensward, all the Elezen look cool as fuck
>immediately switch to one and enjoy being an elegant motherfucker for the rest of the game
>RDM comes out, fits the race PERFECTLY

Y'all niggers missing out.

>>380999649
>heh... kids... I have never once wiped at anything because I'm a literal GOD who always has 3 other competent people with me or I just carry it myself... Can't imagine someone taking longer than 5 minutes in a dungeon desu....

>>380999614
What was on the test?

>>380998946
The stress of DPS is brought strictly on yourself. You could coast through a duty and no one would care. A tank has tons of pressure from the party, and to a lesser extent so does the healer.

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>finally get to the first dungeon ahead of my friends
>they aren't online yet and we all agree to wait for each other so we could see the content together
HOLY FUCK GUYS WAKE UP

>>380999541
Half OF your attacks you fucking turdburgling cockwrangler.

>>380999501
If half your attacks are crits and half your attacks are direct hits, what's the probability of an attack being neither?

Why is this game so offensively boring to look at.

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>there are fags that don't like susano's theme

To any who finish the MSQ. Does what happened at the end of the original MSQ of 1.0 come back or get mention "future perfect"?

>>380999875
There are fags who don't like Shiva's theme or Ravana's theme too. Or any of the Alexander themes.

>>380999821
I meant to say that half my attacks are regular and the other half are always crit or direct.

>>380999614
cool blog post dude that's why I come to 4chan to read your blog posts

>>380999748
If I wasn't a highlander I'd be playing an elezen. Good giraffe girls are also the cutest player characters.

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>mfw PLDs are now a healer

is Rhalgr really the new hub? It's sooo ugly.

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>The Sirensong Sea dungeon
2 new DPS classes were a mistake. They need to make more TANK classes.
>muh knights honor
Fucking boring ass PLD class.
>muh dark powers
You're gonna cut yourself with that edge one day.
DRK is probably the most interesting out of all the tank classes.
>WAR
You are a Raider! LEGENDARY!
Into the cuckshed it goes.

>>380999920
shiva's second theme was some gay jpop desu

>this shitter really needs a guide for brain dead content

Why does Lyse look like Kid now?

>>380999974
Hahaha, no

>>380999801
I've tanked and healed in this game and nobody pays the slightest bit of attention unless you're losing aggro or letting people die. A bad DPS is just less noticeable than a bad tank but being a good tank/healer is easier than being a good DPS

>>380999748
Gay

>>380999762
Nearly none of the mechanics in 4mans will oneshot you if you fail it once, and that once should be more than enough to figure out how to not be retarded next time. 4-man content in this game is a fucking joke.

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>>380999991
See? Always gonna be some fags with shit taste like this guy.

>>380999994
who?

>>380999991
Never understood why people liked that theme. Just some annoying nip with a mic

>>380999235
where are people seeing the dps? logs? or is there an fflogs for SB already?

>>381000081
If it's so damn easy, why does it matter if anyone looks up a guide or not then?

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I'm going back to Legion to raid and kill Gul'dan and Kil'jaeden. After that, I'll spend a couple months in BDO.

I just don't see a reason to play FFXIV. It's just a crappy version of WoW, I'm sorry to say.

>>380999801
In a top tier endgame raiding environment its on the DPS to bring their A game every single attempt. Tanks have a much larger margin for error while still being "optimal" and healers just get blamed regardless.

>DPS check means that the largest ratio needs to be performing optimally
>Healer check means that you need to coordinate with your cohealer to keep everyone alive without running out of mana for other parts of the encounter
>Tank check is did you push your defensive cooldown at the right time.

Yes if the tank fails its generally a shitshow/wipe but because of that tanks have much more room to breathe because its not the most exciting role, if it was super challenging on top of that then we'd really have no tanks.

>>380990209
>I pay for it so it must be successful!

>>380999991
It sounds like a fucking Avril Lavigne song. Phase 1 is some good shit though.

>>381000210
ok bye

>>381000202
Because retards like you who somehow actually wipe in those dungeons still exist.

>>381000210
That's nice

>>381000210
>It's just a better version of WoW, I'm sorry to say.
FTFY

>>381000210
ow, my eyes

>>381000292
desuwa I have no stake in this fight. I go in blind but i don't give a fuck if someone takes 10 minutes to read a guide during queue or whatever.

>all those people thinking SAM will be part of the meta

No good utility is always a death sentence for a DPS job no matter how strong it is. See BLM and MNK back when progression actually mattered.

>>381000252
It's funny because I probably would go back to tanking if they had the complexity of a DPS

>There are people in this thread right now who can pick up context clues from bosses to avoid wipes

Serious, every boss in this expansion has been so telegraphed.

>>381000423
MNK had less personal dps than fucking nin in hw
And still was allowed into raids

>>381000497
>DPS
>Complexity

wut

>>381000586
DPS in this game is far more complex than tanking.

>>381000575
>source: my ass

>>380998868
You better be staying in your containment world, balmung

So what's the consensus about Paladins now?

Are they still shit?

Thinking about resubbing

>>381000635
DPS was a fucking mistake. Now give me some tanks and healers for this dungeon.

>>381000210
>this fag again
Lol. Enjoy yourself, bud.

>>380996236
SAM and DRG

>>381000575
You're wrong on both accounts.

>>381000497
MMO tanking is stagnating because aggro management doesn't matter anymore so its just how do we give the tank other things to do, it can't do more DPS than DPS because DPS would get mad, it can't do more Healing than Healers because Healers would get mad. So it just sorta does parts of the other role to give it something active to do while you have the bosses attention.

what's the best job now?

>>380999795
It the the first test, so we did the basics
>intro to programming
>Basic C++ Elements
>Control Statements pt1
>Control Statements p2

>>381000635
All the roles are equally easy. Maybe that's just me since I've done everything there is to do and I'm just farming Stormblood end-game right now.

>>381000252
Oh yeah, obviously raiding is a much different beast. I would say healers actually used to have the most stressful time, since they needed to be on top of the heals, mitigation and doing as much damage as possible. We'll have to wait and see what it's like after the sweeping Stormblood changes.

>>381000586
They're far more complex than tanking or healing in this game
>>381000635
Almost word for word, Jesus

>>381000210
Bye, tourist. You won't be missed.

>>381000252
To be fair that's only if you consider tanking to be 'hold enmity and thats it'.

Tanks and Healers can both skirt by with only doing the absolute minimum their role requires. However they both have large openings for better play once you start optimizing for DPS; a good Tank is around ~0.6 or so of a DPS so you can easily make up for someone playing suboptimally. Healer DPS got unfortunately gutted so it's far less useful now.

>>381000703
Tanking is so hard wow
gotta point the ass of the baddies at the group and hit a defensive cooldown very 30 seconds
so hard. You deserve a sippy cup anon!

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>Wildstar failed because it didn't pander to braindead retards with fragile ego
>SWToR and ESO had more subs than FFXIV when they removed their sub fees, implying higher production costs
>GW2 is still the second most played modern MMO after WoW but the haters make it look like its failing
FFXIV is the scourge of the genre. Their shilling completely changed people's perception, obsfucated reality and killed better games.

Saying this as someone who played since ARR. The saddest part is that she shills are keeping FFXIV itself mediocre.

RIP this genre.

>>380996519
>loving the aesthetics/lore of MCH

What the fuck.

>>381000754
BLM got a huge boost to their abilities, even if they lowered fire potency slightly. You can spam Fire 4 forever now

>>381000834
Oi lad. Give me some fucking tanks and healers for Sirensong Sea. You can go back to arguing with that other anon, just gib gib.

>>381000752
I don't know why an MMO doesn't actively protect party members, for example slamming a giant protective barrier down right before a boss melts the entire party with an unavoidable AoE attack

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>61 dungeon queue is 60m+
>lets just nerf 2/3rds of the tanks and healers and release 2 new DPS in the same expansion haha
Fuck you Yoshi.

>>381000758
Shit, son. If you're already failing on that stuff, you're in for a world of hurt.

>>381000840
>Wildstar failed because it didn't pander to braindead retards with fragile ego
Your opinion belongs to trash
No need to read further

>>380990209
It's not that it's good or revolutionary. If you're worn out on the typical MMO you won't be into this, but it's a really solid game all the way around. People basically play it only so they're not made fun of for playing WoW.

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>>381000840
>cherry picking this hard
>opinions

>Capacity issues at ARR launch.
>Capacity issues at Heavensward launch.
>Bigger capacity issues at Stormblood launch.

Tell me /v/ how do these greedy fucks keep getting away with selling people expansions and not providing the server capacity for people to play it without everything going tits up.

I can't even log into the fucking game before I error off the lobby server because the queue is over 3k.

>>381000840
Too bad Wildstar, TOR, ESO and GW2 are still complete fucking ass for reasons someone like you will never comprehend.

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>>381000327
That hurts your eyes but not this? You may just be used to every move in XIV having some sort of flash and sound to it

>>381000840
Customization for the sake of existing does not make a game better

>>381000826
But that's still just tacking on "do damage" onto tanking, like >>381000931 said tanking could have active aspects to it with cooldowns but that would drive the population down because people want the easy braindead role with instant queues not an actual challenge.