Umineko is best VN

>>>/t/he OP is a faggot

>>380988646
fuck
>>>/t/he_OP_is_a_faggot

>>380988742
it must not be true then

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>>380988742
god dammit

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You haven't seen nothing yet boyo

I should be studying now but Umineko thread always takes priority

Leave the thread now before you get spoiled

But EP 1-4 is the best VN ive read

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I want to fuck Evatrice.
>tfw only one doujinshi and it's not even about her

SMALL BOMBS

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>>380989165
shit taste

>>380988521
Stop posting before you get spoiled Jesus anon

You do not want this shit ruined for you trust me

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Another Seacat thread? Don't mind if I do.
>>380988521
First episode starts out slow, once the actual meat of Umineko happens, you will probably be playing for longer. Though there are some episodes which start being slow again (4) but are great in their own right.

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>>380989349
Rude.
But I really like Erika as well.

it's a great scene because it gives the parents potential motives

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>>380989238
>Beato never got to fondle Battler's small bombs

Why even live

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WHERE'S THE NEXT WHEN THEY CRY RUYKISHI?
YOU SAID IT WAS GONNA BE THIS YEAR!

>>380989423

What this anon said. I went through Umineko for the first time a couple months ago and I literally knew nothing at all about it except people liked it and it was a long game. I didn't know any of the characters other than remembering what Beato, Battler and Kinzo looked like, didn't know any of the plot whatsoever, music, etc.

Now it's my favorite video game series, if you can call SN's video games.

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>>380988521
>The fact this is 100-200 hour long is seriously baffling, what the fuck.

They get pretty deep into some of the characters, there's like 10 hours of backstory just on Rosa being Mom of the Year to Maria

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>>380989941
>you will never have a mother-daughter threesome with Rosa and Maria.

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>>380989941

I think episode 4 was one of the roughest chapters I read, the bullying was unreal. Also the fact of Maria being dead and how Ange kept thinking of her and her book Anyone who didn't like episode 4 is a monster.

>>380988521
I'm glad you're enjoying it anon
but you really should get out of here before any more spoilers appear
we can have a nice thread when you're all done

>>380990308
It had too much dumb bullshit in the latter half of the episode. TPT and ???? were top-tier though

>>380988521
Episode 1 is incredibly long winded. It gets much better about halfway in, and 2-4 are significantly better, even when R07 slows down too much like in the Maria/Rosa and Ange stuff.

>>380990538
Tea party and ??? are what most people think of when they think episode 4. I wish the rest of 4 was that good, but it's mostly pretty boring.

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10/10 red truth
This scene cemented evatrice as my favorite character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lb0xcfFvtA

>>380988521

everything past 4 was shit.

>>380990812
>tfw Deen didn't even put the cobwebs in

For fuck's sake, DEEN

>>380990870

I don't see what peoples problems with Chiru was. Maybe I am simple but I lived all 8 episodes.

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>>380990870
t.goat

>>380990870
Fucking this

>Battler is my favorite character from 1-4, literal god amongst men fighting for humans
>becomes a cuck the very next chapter

>>380988521
Is Umineko better than Higurashi?
I've always been interested in both but I don't know where to start. S

>>380991259
Umineko clearly numbers all its' episodes 1-8

For Higurashi just find the wikipedia article and it should have all the arcs named in proper order

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Reminder that Lady Lambdadelta is the best.

What's the best version for this?
And where can I download it?

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>>380991259

I personally feel like Higurashi is garbage, especially when compared to Umineko. Other anons might disagree tho

>>380991190
>becomes a cuck
it's almost like you read words but didn't understand any of them

>>380991259
I would say not really, because as others pointed out, Umineko gets really fucking stupid past ep4.

Battler should've fucked Ange.

>>380991717
Higurashi was good. It just had terrible fucking pacing. You just want the slice of life shit to end and go straight to the killings.

>>380992030
incest is wrong

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I hope Umineko gets an anime adaptation someday, along with Tsukihime and Berserk. That would be rad.

>>380992086
Well, it runs in the family.

OP here:

Also literally just discovered there is a new When they Cry game coming out.

Best fucking timeline.

>>380992265
leave this thread you madman you're gonna get spoiled

Glad you're enjoying it. Now leave the thread and avoid all spoilers elsewhere.

>>380991379
I meant which one I should play first.
>>380991717
Really? Everyone praises the anime (the second season) like it's the second coming of Christ. I dabbed into it but decided to hold back after I heard it had a VN.
>>380991930
Is it at least funny stupid?

>>380992160
they all did, surprise, they were all shit

>>380991647
I'm curious about this as well. I read there is a graphic patch for it and 2 different translations I guess. I'm not sure. Is there some Realta Nua type shit for this? Just unsure where to start.

>>380992086
it does run in the family though
and also he wants to fuck his uncle so whatever no big deal

>>380992619
There is no Tsukihime anime Anon.

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>>380992619

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>>380992619
Sotp lying

>>380992542
Well, chronologically Higu came first and Umi has some callbacks to it.

That said, both are separate stories so whichever

It's good you're enjoying it but this is spoiler central so watch out.

>>380988521
>playing Umineko after seeing the pic used in the OP
I pity the people who didn't read it without knowing that there was more characters than the cast of Ep 1

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I remember all those fan arts back in the days

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>>380993347

>>380993347
>tfw went to a high-res printshop every month to make posters out of fanarts and slap them on my walls as a kid

These were the good days

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>>380993449

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>mfw thinking about the ending
It all just feels so useless knowing that even the scenes from the detective's perspective aren't real.
>>>/t/wilight+of+the+golden+witch+was+a+mistake

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>>380990870
I actually couldn't get past episode 6, and it's a damn shame considering how much i loved 1-4

>>380993547
>finish Ep4
>Print this shit as a wallscroll
>"Man, it sure is crowded, I'm sure they won't add any more characters now"

>>380993646

>bern on the human side

From all the things this VN might not explain, does the epitaph get a good explanation?

>>380993958
Kinda amazing how you can always tell when the art was made due to stuff like that

so how true that the main point of the game is this story is an fiction so witches and magic exist

>>380993958
Those were created during the ongoing writing and release

>>380993962
It does

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>>380994063
Magic had nothing to do with the game, but higher dimensional beings(lolis) able to travel across the multiverse are real

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>>380994124
hyped.

And then I knew

>>380994675
Don't expect to be able to solve it if you aren't fluent in japanese, R07 didn't even know he had a western fanbase until Ep 4
Also GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS THREAD

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>>380993962
Define "good". It's complex but it only works in Japanese, you're not going to be able to figure it out unless you're fluent in moon-speak. It is clear that it had been thought of early on though and wasn't just some ass-pull.

>>380994814
This is at least like 5 years old, right? I seriously care little about spoilers when the main grip for me is the writing. Also, I literally don't understand anything people are posting, except that there are more characters than the ones in Chapter 1

Thanks for the warning, though.

>>380995296
>This is at least like 5 years old, right?

Ten, anon. Ten.

>>380995296

There are spoilers people could tell you that would invalidate any point to reading the VN.

>>380994063
Witches and magic has nothing to do with the game. Higher dimensional meta-beings do exist but they don't influence the game or its solution in any way.

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>>380995296
Knowing that there are more characters is an absurdly huge spoiler
Ep 1 follows the closed circle type of mystery novels
Having more characters should be impossible
Also getting spoiled WILL ruin a character for you

>>380995296
There is one incredibly easy to spoil thing, it'd only take 3 words, in particular that would completely ruin the rest of the games.

>>380988521
So you're at the mystery? Wait tell you get to the meta and when you think the novel isn't meta enough it proceeds to become a meta meta.

>>380991930
Fuck off ep 5 is epic

>>380995674
I can do it in one (-1-) word
Shkanontrice

>>380991930
Fuck off episode 8 was good and bittersweet.

I've been rereading Umineko recently with a friend who's reading it for the first time. Oh man her theories and reactions are pure gold. I've been writing down everything she says plus my own observations that I missed the first time so that when she's done, we can look back and laugh.

>>380995420
Really?

Why is the creator doing another one fucking now? Wasn' t Umineko the second one, too?

I already feel pity for the fans.

>>380996152
He did some non-WTC stuff along the way like Higabana. I can understand wanting to take a break after writing what is effectively 16 novels and having a close friend die.

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>>380990870
>implying all of ep5 wasn't the peak of the entire series
>implying most of ep4 wasn't the lowest point of the series
wew lad you've got to be kidding me right now

>>380988521
If you feel like reading some more even after the insane length of the novel then read the manga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHjnQyXGdFk
I probably recommend reading episode 8 in manga form is pretty good as it meshes the endings and gives some extra stuff for a more solid conclusion.

>>380996010
Are you gonna also show her this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLhqUzUgxc&list=PLC-1oPty3rw5EzXqCWw2O7i930evIkzMX

>>380990870
goat detected

>>380996010
For fun ask her if natsuhi's gun really fired from episode 1.

>>380996503
Oh boy, here we go again

>>380996503

I told her about how someone made a 10 hour theory video and she thought that was insane.

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Reminder that all even numbered episodes are shittier than the odd numbered ones.

Top Tier: 3, 8
High Tier: 1, 5, 7
Mid Tier: 2, 4, 6

Chiru is better overall.

>>380996785
>8 that high
yikes

>>380996780
Well...fuck, you're right

Endless 9 is stupid bullshit though

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Any of the fan games decent?

>>380996785
3 5
1 2 6 7
4 8

>>380996896
>>380997025
Goats

>>380996503
Someone with enough free time in their hands has seen this?

Is it a good theory?

>>380997116
It's a good ending, but the presentation drags and it's filled to the brim with pointless bullshit

Purple truth is dumb bullshit also. So was golden.

>>380996995
I've heard that witches in woodlands is okay

>>380997286
The Battle for the Golden Land is the highlight of the entire series.

>he didn't play with the original sprites
Explain yourself.

>>380997264
I haven't watched his explanation of it but Rosatrice seems to generally be a lot more liked than Shkanontrice as possible explanation, mostly because it doesn't require half the cast to be bumbling idiots and fits the game's themes better.

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>>380997680

I played with original and when I tried to replay the game with newer sprites i just reverted back to original since I liked them more.

>>380997680
They're shit

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

Plus the PS3 patch gives better backgrounds and VA, and as much as the anime sucked dick, the VA choice was fucking stellar

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>>380997680
They are fucking awful, the PS3 designs are amazing and they completely fit the atmosphere.

Best one in pic.

>>380998049
>generic anime faces
>amazing
hmm

>>380998129
generic anime faces > boxing glove hands

Unique doesn't mean good

>>380998049
is anyone else in love with eva??

>>380998210
the original sprites were miles better because of the facial expressions that didnt translate well into the ps3 sprites

>>380998212
Eva dindu nothin wrong. She the best mom.

>>380998212

Natsuhi

>>380998290
Then it's real fucking good that PS3 sprites actually use body language as well. And non-standard CG shots for dramatic scenes.

>>380998568
none of that beats this >>380996398

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Haven't played this yet. How come people love this so much but constantly say the last episode was shit. Isn't the whole story riding on those revelations being satisfying?

>>380998758
Everything was explained in the previous episode, the last one was spent just sugar coating the truth.

>>380998758
Is the overall reception to the ending even mostly negative? I thought it was about half and half, divisive for sure. I think the ending is great personally

>>380998968
So is 8 the one I'm thinking of then?

>>380998758
This is one of the wildest rides out there
The things it does with the meta are also unique

>>380999283
there are a few VNs that do it, but they're not popular. Forest and I think Dies Irae have something similar.

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>>380998758
It's about the journey, not the destination.

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What the fuck was their problem?

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UUUWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS CANNOT BE HAPPENING MAGIC CANNOT BE REAL WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO BROS?

>>380999482
ten tons of gold

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>>380999482

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>>380999495

ZEN

ZEN

DA

ME

DA

>>380999391
>Dies Irae is on Steam
what a time to be alive

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>>380999495
>golden truth hyped up after ep5
>it's only used to say magic is real after that

>>380999391
Is Dies Irae worth it if I didn't really like F/SN?

>>381000000
What the fuck was even the point of the golden truth

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>>380998212

Which Eva?

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>>380998212
Yes, both Eva.

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>>380998758

Last episode is fine, people just complain because they are goats.

>>380991259
Umineko > Higurashi Kai > Higurashi > Umineko Chiru

>>381000114
Truths that are truer than true that universally apply to every dimensional reoccurrence of an event

>>381000114
He needed to asspull Battler proving Kinzo's death after he wrote Knox BTFOing Battler over the "supernatural agencies" rule

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>>381000120
EVA > Eva

>>380999892
>>380999718

They said they didn't care about the gold since they can't offload it anywhere, they just wanted the card Yasu had.

>>381000326
t. namimi

>>380988521
I haven't even played Umineko but still i SACRIFICING TO GO
YAMI WO KIRISAKU O! DESIRE!

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>>381000562

>>381000232
Honestly, the "you're just a goat" bullshit is part of the problem. Ryukishi literally goes on a tirade about how his retarded readers didn't get it and are just a bunch of goats when he's spent the entire time up to that point emphasizing how things are open to interpretation.

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Every thread until we reach the Golden Land.

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>>381000617

>>381000114
Universal truths that apply to every single game

I think

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>>381000747
wasnt goat supposed to refer to people that only cared about the mystery and hated the magic/romance stuff?

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>>381000052
Other than both of them being quite chuuni it's not similar to FSN at all. FSN suffers a lot from its needless padding and how serious it takes itself, things that are a literal nonissue in DI.

I'd say give it a shot, it's very good. At its core it's character driven metafiction that is insanely self aware without ever doing obnoxious shit like breaking the 4th wall.

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Would you watch a Chiru anime if DEEN were the ones working on it again?

>>381001025
I interpreted it as people who just want to be told the answer instead of thinking about it themselves

>>381001228
Yes, DEEN has gotten their shit together the past few years

>>381001029
Is there a story reason for it being self-aware, or is it literally the writer being a massive troll?

>that feel when pretty much all official Umineko merch is sold out everywhere and will never restock

>>381001532
What merch?

What are some other good "trapped" vns? Already read E17, the zero escapes, and seacats of course. Is Remember11 good? Is Euphoria only good for porn?

>>381001463
What if it's 2009 DEEN and they had to fit everything in 13 episodes?

>>381002053
Root Double is one that I just started reading. Couldn't tell you if it's good or not though since I'm only 15 minutes into it.

>>381000000
NOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE NIGGGGER

Watching the anime caused me physical pain. Are the games better?

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>>381002053
Hotel Dusk might not really count as being "trapped", but it takes place entirely in a hotel. Remember11 is fantastic but be warned that there isn't much of an ending to it.
Danganronpa fits the description, but isn't everyone's cup of tea.

>>381002573
The writing and music are amazing at least.

>>381002573
the source material is always better

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>>381001495
Story.
It's also more just the style of writing in general. It often talks about tropes and roles, and because you follow the cast and see them examine their current positions, their ideologies, and their backgrounds, after getting caught up in Mercurius' figurative Grand Guignol it never fails to hit home.

>>381002072
Well

I watched 2016 Berserk so standards are not an issue as long as Stockholm Syndrome is involved

>>381002826
Well, that screenshot sold me

Nothing better than characters being aware that tsunderes belong in the garbage bin

>>381002053
Remember 11 is definitely worth checking out if you want more of that.
Dangan Ranpa isn't technically a VN and is more similar to Ace Attorney than ZE, but has characters trapped in a school.
The manga series Doubt features characters trapped in a death game that reminded me of ZE.
You might like Battle Royale too. Started as a novel but there's a manga series and a film that are both good.
If you don't mind reading traditional novels, check out Qualia the Purple as well. I hear people compare it to E17 a lot in terms of mindfuckery.

>>381002573
Yeah, the anime is pretty shit. Looks awful and is a really poorly abridged version of half the story.

>>381002573
What anime?

There is no anime.

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>>381003093
>>381002826
Wilhelm is fucking great. Honestly almost all the characters are 10/10

>>381003179
Thanks a lot dude

>>381000763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3QRcP6gtek

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>>381003491
DO. NOT. BULLY. KEI.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>381003503
Here's a link to Qualia the Purple by the way.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-5XtCxJULf4OGJzRnV0MnlVOEk/view
An anon in a Zero Escape thread shared shared it.

>>381002826
Is it fully translated?

>>381003950
Yeah it's even on Steam.

>>381000626
poor namimi. was probably even more annoying than lanced jack but no one ever remembers him

>>381004206
No it's not, unless I'm being super cucked by living in EU

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>>381004206
What a time to be alive.

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>>381003950
Yeah, it's on steam.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/644540/Dies_irae_Amantes_amentes/

If you want to play it you should definitely follow this guide, or at least make sure you do the routes in the proper order (Kasumi -> Kei -> Marie -> Rea). Anything else would completely ruin the game for yourself. Also Kasumi's Route is by FAR the weakest, so don't drop it because of that, at least that one is pretty short.
https://gareblogs.wordpress.com/2017/06/01/dies-irae-amantes-amentes-english-walkthrough/

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How was the manga anyways? Did they skip a bunch of scenes?
I never really got into it, from what I heard the artist changes every episode? And it seemed like they were releasing chapters from every episode at once instead of doing one at a time so I never really bothered with it.
Now that it's finished I'm thinking of reading it.

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>>381004391
I think ur cucked :(

>>381004206
>>381004442
>steam
So they removed the h-scenes?

>>381002826
No wonder Wilhelm got his own game.

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>>381004739
Apparently there's an uncensored release planned. Not sure if in the form of a patch or if it'll be another platform or something.

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>>381004739
There is only a handful of them and they are very short and quite frankly not good or interesting. They said the patch with h-scenes would come out late july if I remember right, but that's honestly not worth waiting for.
None of the CGs were censored in the steam version if that's a concern. Still plenty of violence, blood, and gore to go around.

>>381004719
Well, clicking the link >>381004442 helped. It just didn't show up in shop for some reason

Who is the best Seacat composer and why is it ZTS?

Umineko is the biggest meme. It's fucking garbage and only ever got popular because of the reaction faces and music

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>>381005792
Without love it cannot be seen

>>381005736
dai is better

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>>381005974

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>>381005736

>>381006340
Jesus

>>381000380
which had 1 billion yen (almost 10 million US) which is still a lot of money

>>381006340
>>381005974

I actually legit want framed canvas' of the Umineko portraits.

>>381006340
What is sysadmin even doing these days?

>>381006701
Who doesn't?

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>>381006701
Where do you even get one?

>>381007093

Don't know or I would have purchased them already.

>>381000000
>magic is real
i knew it all along, im a wizard

>>381007093
Painters exist, anon. You go to them and say you want an oil replica.

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>>381007093
You paint them yourself

>>381007189
You can just go to a print shop and order giclee prints of those super high res portraits that are floating around, if you really want to go big you can even get it printed on canvas. Afterwards buy some nice frames to go with them and you are sorted out.
Costs not even a fraction of what commissioning someone halfway decent to actually paint the thing would run you

>>381007840
a true man of culture, holy shit

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>>381007840

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>>381007840
haha holy shit

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>>381004442
>this looks neat, oh it's free, might as well install it
>start game, immediately assaulted by pretentious shit
>no idea what this was even about but I'll keep going a while longer I guess
>boohoo war is bad
>k
>not-hitler standing ontop a floating swastika commands all left over germans to kill themselves, which they do while excitedly chanting sieg heil
what the fuck am i reading

>>380988521
you have no idea what you are in for, it hasn't even begun yet. Strap yourself in for the most wild ride of your life.

Also, GTFO of here, don't get spoiled nigger.

>>381008762
>linking pictures
>on an imageboard

You lazy nigger

>>381008950
the filesizes too big dumb nigger

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>>381004442
Rusalka is cute. CUTE
https://youtu.be/aCuqh1EzrHs

>>381007840
Listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHpgQFdnBtM while reading this

It's beautiful

>>381000000
magic is real and so is my 7

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Maria did nothing wrong.

>>381009797
autistic little shit

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>>381004480
It changed Ep 7 and 8 for the better
If it skipped any scenes I didn't realize it

>>381008785
>dies irae
>pretentious

are you 5?

>>380998758
People are invested by that point. Personally i only got up to episode 6 and dropped it, i just wasn't enjoying it by that point. First couple of episodes were pretty good though

What was featherine's deal anyways?

>>381007840
Do you think he killed himself after realizing Beato had a dick or did he have enough love?

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>>381009953

>>381010365
I want to french kiss Maria.

>>381009797
Would be worst girl if Ange didn't exist.

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>>381010076
Why is this Murder Doll so cute

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>>381010482
Maria is legitimately my favorite character. Is there something wrong with me?

>>380988521
Drop it before Episode 8 and savor the goodness thus far.

You'll thank us later.

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>>381010076

The best.

>He didn't play with ps3 sprites
JUST

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>>381010708
>>381010808
Sadly the DESDESDES scene in Ep 5 was pretty mediocre, even if had the best art in all of the manga episodes

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>>381010808
What was her problem anyways? Did she have tourettes?

>>381011123
That looks hype as fuck

Time to backlog the manga

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>>381001228
I would even buy the shitty blu-ray just for an Erika dakimakura, like I did before for the Bern/Lambda one.

P0st that one 4k0ma

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>>381011819

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>>381011819

What do ange burgers taste like?

>>381012110
Salty coins and small bombs

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>>381012110
Calf meat and loads of salt

>>381011963
>>381011998
Got one with peen0s?

>>381011998
>ywn make bern ahegao

>>380988521
Just completed Episode 3.

Is reading Higurashi necessary to understand any of the later story? I decided to skip it.

>>381012607
No

>>381012607
They aren't even related, like, at all.
There are one or two small nods to Higurashi later on but it's as straightforward as saying "Hey this thing exists, remember it?" and not even remotely relevant to anything.

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>>381012567
End me.

witches are bitches all they get are stitches

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This is how uminekofags actually live

>>381013829
I wish

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>>381013706
but Battler was the only one that actually got stitches

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>>381013829
I wish I could show my devotion to Beatrice like that, but flats aren't exactly the place to hang oil paintings at

Also I feel like I'm gonna get divorced if i suddenly bring a huge portrait of another woman home

>>381014451
Hey, it worked out well for Kinzo. What's stopping you?

>>381014638
Not having ten tons of gold and other assets

One of these days, though. One of these days.

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>>381014451
>marrying to someone who hasn't read Higurashi, Umineko, Higanbana and RGD
lmaoing at your life senpai

>>381015426
The battle to get Umineko installed on her PC continues, year by year

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>>381015567
Just install it and say a witch did it

>>380988521
Start is great, but most of Chiru is boring as fuck with a couple of highlights. Overall the mystery and "climax" are disappointing, which I guess is the message the author was going for.