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Monster Hunter XX

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How hard is it to play a monster hunter in Japanese? I don't think I'll be too interested in World and I'd seen where Capcom had announced that XX won't be coming to the West. Are there online translations so I won't be playing blind?
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Watch a video of the 3DS version and see how well you can deal with it I guess
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Its not.
And Gen was made for babies so its probably the easiest ebtry point.
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I mean, all youd really have to do is memorize the menu and use a wiki a little bit, I don't think it would be too bad with mh, but I've never tried it
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Why wouldn't you just play right now with the menu/item/armor patch?

The games barely have a story. You just do the quests and every now and then check for those yellow boxes above peoples heads.
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>>380988331
I've been playing with english patch on 3ds for the past 2 months. There's no story or important dialogue in XX so playing in Japanese isn't hard at all. Just use kiranico for when you need to translate something.
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What's the best way to go about buying a Japanese version of a game? I want to get this on switch when it comes out, preferably physical
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the problem is going to be playing online with other american or european players since not everyone is going to bite the bullet and import the japanese version.


Its going to have a dead as fuck online western community sadly
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>>380989305
Play-asia is good for importing japanese game stuff
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>>380988331
-You know how some words are abbreviated in english when the menu space is tight?
-Right, so now you abbreviate moonrunes into super moonrunes (kanji) in the jap version of the game.
-Then you go on a Charm farming run, get 20 charms and need to read 40 different armor skills all in weird hyper moonrunes, and you only have the limited mission-end timer to do that, so unless you want to get rid of them all or put them all in your bank, filling it with shit, you better memorize every armor skill in the game in japanese.

While a lot of people here pretend like it's no big deal jumping to japanese MonHun, it actually is. You read a LOT of the game and rely on a lot of info even if subconsciously. Once that info turns into moonrunes you'll get a headache trying to comprehend it and you'll spend all the time playing with 15 tabs open on your browser for translation purposes.

People who say it's not a big deal either never even tried to play a MonHun in japanese and just assume shit, or they are already used to it after going through a painful re-adjustment period, or they know how to read japanese.

At the end of the day Anon, why'd you go through all of this trouble only to play the absolute shittiest MonHun game out there? I'm POSITIVE there are other MonHun games you haven't played yet. Go for those instead, try a generation you never touched or something.
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>>380988331
I think the most annoying parts are armor skills. It's hard to build your own armor sets so you'll probably have to just copy people online. And then searching for decorations is fucking annoying too.
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I've played several Japanese titles, I don't know a lick of Japanese.
on a 1-10 scale of difficulty I'd rate it a 3/10
other than talisman autism it really isn't that hard
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>I don't think I'll be too interested in World

the fuck is wrong with you, how can you not be interested in the first game in the series to have actual graphics?
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I never said I wasn't interested in World, just that I prefer classic monster hunter( and gen) graphics don't make my dick hard. I bet it'll be fun though.
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>>380990608
probably because it isn't on a nintendo system
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>>380991134
monster hunter world IS classic monster hunter
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And yeah, the whole online thing is something to think about. Ive got a buddy who's gonna import too and I've soloed and two manned plenty other G rank quests. My biggest worry was just charm hunting, which I assume wiki would clear that up, and just general text. I dunno. I've only ever imported one other Japanese game so I was unsure. Y'all have helped alot though!
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>>380991314
yes that grappling hook and free environmental traps everywhere is a classic
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>>380988331
>not too interested in World

World is literally just evolution of Monster Hunter though.

Minus the autistic artificial diffculty things like flexing animations.
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>>380991314
Yeah, you may be right. You have to admit it does look westernized though. In some form or fashion it's gonna be gimped or dumbed down. Maybe not though
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>>380991449
So are arts and styles
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>>380988331
We'll get MHXX eventually, Capcom even went out of their way and debunked the rumour by saying that they simply "don't have plans to make announcement at the moment" - which is basically the same thing we got with previous entries. Just be patient.
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>>380991480
man you guys really got bait for months from this announcement, huh
>>380991513
you see me defending gen anywhere, retard?
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>>380988331
they just have nothing to announce about it yet. doesn't mean it will never come here
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>>380991521
I saw that! I mean, I'm not losing sleep or anything over it. I enjoyed Gen and I wanna play XX. I'll be buying world as soon as it comes out as well. I just want to play more monster hunters is all.
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>>380990608
>actual graphics?
The graphics aren't impressive though. They are just better than the 3DS and Wii.
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>>380991621
What bait?

I have thousands of hours since PS2 MonHun and whay the fuck you wouldn't want to play it?

It looks great from that 20 min gameplay.
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>>380991513
yeah man good thing world doesn't have that dumb shit like SnS shoryuken or LS jumping a million feet in the air and soon anime slashes
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>>380988331
>Capcom had announced that XX won't be coming to the West
Capcom didn't announce that XX won't be coming to the west. They said they didn't have anything to announce in regard of a western localization, and Gamespot misunderstood.

This happens every single time.
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guys where the fuck do I start with this series
I'd like to get a 3ds title, but they look too much like "portable console games"
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>>380991949
>They said they didn't have anything to announce in regard of a western localization, and Gamespot misunderstood.
Gamespot actually said someone gave them a hard "No". So that was either from a PR guy who was told to focus on World and knows nothing about XX or Capcom is dragging their feet and had to damage control some.
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>>380991521
>>380991683
I sure hope so but lately Capcom has been acting very strange with Nintendo, the only game they released was SF2, and thas it. No Disney afternoon collection, no megaman collection, nothing.

They might have done what they did on Twiiter by being vague as hell just to damage control. Do i think they will announce XX for the west? No. Do i hope? Yes
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>>380991843
And twice as good as the best looking game on the Switch, you forgot.
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>op says he isnt interested in world, not even being negative about it
>horde of autists immediatly flock to him asking why he isnt interested in world

do you guys also freak out at your friends IRL when they tell you they dont wanna play something you like? bit sad honestly
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>>380992264
If the answer was a hard "no" they wouldn't try to be ambiguous. What would that accomplish? Even if they were afraid people would boycott them, what could they do? There are no Capcom games coming out on the Switch in the west.
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>>380991943
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Of all the Japanese games it's literally in the Top 5 easiest.

So many guides out there for everyhting you need.

Kiranico is the ultimate encyclopedia for MH in Japanese
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>>380992249
>portable console games
Is this a problem?
Anyways 4U is your best bet, relatively beginner friendly.
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>>380992940
>arts are back
>mounting is back
>swimming is back(?)
JUST
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>>380988331
Going to import Switch version. There are already good enough wikis for items and shit.

I'll wait for some nice looking Limited Edition first. 3DS one was really good.
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>>380993375
wanted to emulate one but Tri is hard as fuck to find, PSP titles don't have camera control and PS2 ones are just old.
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>>380992940
>trap everywhere on the map
>grapplehook because it wasn't already easy to mount
>now this
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>>380993375
With a dead online, of course it is the best beginner friendly entry in recent years. However once he is finished with the village quests whats left other than solo guild expeditions?

He is going to have a hard time finding actice rooms for some of the dlc content like the star knight set and other things related.
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>>380992512

No. Mario and Rabbid actually looks like a true next gen game and that was actually the most surprising part about that damned game.

World looks like a 7.5 gen game.
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>>380989649
>implying you need to memorize every skill

There is only a handful of good skills you need to memorize, less than 10, everything else is trash
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>>380992838

They don't want to bad PR and they are hoping for people to focus on World instead. When people were bitching all over their Twitter and Facebook accounts, their PR guys were telling to look forward to World instead.
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>>380988331
Capcom had to put out a statement correction Gamespot. They meant that they weren't confirming that it was being localized yet, not that it won't ever come to the west. Gamespot put out clickbait bullshit
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>>380993771

The singleplayer will easily occupy 20 hours at least, and if it's his first MH title then he should completely go through the singleplayer first to actually learn how to play the game. 4U still has a decent online, mostly because A lot of people just didn't like Generations, myself included. Just join a MH Discord or something. You'll find it a lot better than playing with pubbies. Shit, even /mhg/ will gladly join you if you want the easy way out.
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>>380993771
So what would you recommend? Gen?
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>>380990608
gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphics
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>>380992424
They are very selective on who they jew.
They probably are thinking switch base + the % of possible western mh sales isn't worth it yet.
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>>380992838
>>380993997
They reason for ignoring XX seem to be more that they are seeing World as a kind of year 0 for the west. Hell they are admitting not calling it 5 is because they are worried people will be scared of buying the 5th game in the series. Localizing XX to them will muddy the water and scare some people off from trying to get into the series.
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>>380990608
...That's the only positive you can bring up?
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>>380992940
Wait a fucking second that's straight up aerial style
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>>380992424
Stories is scheduled to release this year in the west. I seriously do not see a reason why XX shouldn't come sooner or later.
Nintendo themselves probably will do something about it, seeing how much MHXX announcement for Switch increased their stock value. Unless of course, someone is really retarded at Capcom and would forgo guaranteed profit for the sake of, I don't even know what, marketing MHW?
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>>380994257
>The singleplayer will easily occupy 20 hours at least
what
https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=21323
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>>380992940
>the worst additions of 3 and Gen are back
Its going to be great!
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>>380994337
>>380994428
Gameplay is the fucking same.
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>>380994664
Still, it's the only positive? C'mon man you oughta be hype for something, anything.
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>>380994337
>>380994428
>gameplay is the same, but with new additions and great graphics
>normal people: amazing!
>monhun fags: WHAT A DISGRACE IN OUR FRANCHISE
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After seeing people defended underwater battles and the styles forever, all the hate MHW is getting just seems a bit hyocrite
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>>380994870
I...never said that? You sure you didn't quote the wrong people?
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>>380994560

>90 hours to beat

Holy shit, do these people farm every weapon and armor set? I beat the game from start to finish in singleplayer and it took me like 50 hours. Granted, I only used 3 different weapons and upgraded armor sets only 4 times in the course of the story.
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>>380994870
>gameplay is the same, but with new additions
So was Generations and that wasn't exactly a fan favorite.
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Having to cuck yourself to another language is some Babydick type shit. Stop, you guys are making it blatantly obvious that you have below averge sized phallus's and are trying to compensate for it.
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>>380994263
Yeah no, skip gen if you can, despite the game being the newest, and the fact that i criticised 4U for the empity online it still remains as the best entry for you.

Like what the other anon said, you can always gather a group to go hunting, but dont expect the online to be lively. Plus 4U is bargain bin cheap
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>>380988331
Fuck off. I use to play MHO and translating shit all the time with your phone is a fucking chore. I don't care what you say, it's just a worse experience playing the game and not knowing wtf the items are then playing a localised version.
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>>380994664
>>380994870
It's not the fucking same you absolute retards. When could you grapple hook into the sky? When was your HBG a machine gun? When could you run while drinking a potion and eating steak? When were you able to combo your charges with your main shot as bow? When could you knock down trees to harm the monster? When could you stealth? Crouching behind a monster in the same area is barley stealthing don't try
It might be similar to monster hunter but it's not the exactly the same gameplay wise as the previous
Besides, I wasn't even calling the game shit, I said gameplay >>>>>>> graphics, which goes for any game not just monster hunter
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>>380988331
monster hunter is extremely easy to play in japanese, when selecting a mission the mission itself has symbols and colors indicating if it's a hunt/capture/gather quest. after that it's pretty straight forward.
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>>380991480
>No more time limit
>No more carting limit
>No potion animation look
>Dark Souls like healing mechanic

Enjoy your watered down version of MH
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>>380995292
go back to monster hunter 1 then? what the fuck do you expect from new games? to still have the same exact gameplay and the same exact graphics?
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>>380995292
You perfectly got that we were pointing how the core gameplay is the fucking same.
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>>380995445
And likewise why don't you go play frontier if you want retard level powercreep
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>>380995441
>>No more time limit
>>No more carting limit
What the fuck. Those were like the biggest factors of the game's sense of urgency.
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>>380995441
only thing i have seen evidence of that you claim is the dark souls item use thing.

rest has been confirmed still in the game like time limit and cart limit.
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>>380988331
I'm not a huge monster Hunter fan but I appreciate the series, so I have a question
Would it be a bad thing if they revamped the learning curve to be more forgiving in the beginning to better entice new players?
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>>380995231

Plus 4U has a much more cohesive narrative. Yeah yeah >story in MH, but it actually feels nice seeing the caravan grow throughout the course of it. Plus, it also serves as a nice framework, introducing more complicated things like the farm and decorations at a much more controlled pace so a new player can easily digest them as they come. Generations just goes through the motions and assumes that you already know what's going on.

Plus 4U has the best guild gal
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>>380995441
>No more time limit
>No more carting limit
So how do you fail?
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>>380995441

>no more time limit
>Guild girl literally says "Oh, and you're being timed!" in the closed doors demo.
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>>380995714
You don't. Welcome to the "westernized MH"
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it's not hard if you just want to play through the singleplayer stuff. I played P3rd before there was any kind of translation patch. The problem is when you need a very specific item drop and have no idea what the fuck it is. But Kiranico is a lot more complete these days than anything we had back then.

>>380995441

fairly certain that there was a time and cart limit in the E3 demo.

anyways, the main draw of World is the expanded monster AI. If they can deliver on that front then I can definitely forgive the potion and damage number stuff.
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Capcom says that all the time, it'll probably come out next year.
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>>380995445
Again all I said was gameplay >>>>>>>> graphics and things I didn't like about the new game. I never said I hated it
>>380995812
Is there even a point to the quest timer? I only lost to it like once in the series
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>>380995867

yeah like when they said it for those ace attorney games they never localized.
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>>380995714
You are failing for shit bait.
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>>380995609

They've already done that though. Ever since Tri the beginner monsters do piss damage. The real learning curve comes from adapting to the slow attacking speed, and there's no real way to fix that.
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>>380995714
There is a time limit. Problem is people are spreading false info (which is some Babydick type shit by the way).
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>>380995919

The timer is fun in the arena, but yeah, the only time the timer becomes an issue is if you're soloing end-game creatures or doing those arena gauntlets. I'd understand if it was shorter, but 50 minutes is something you'll never have to worry about unless you're a shitter, and even then you'll probably triple cart long before the time is up.
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>>380995957

Yeah, this. Even Darksydephil was able to do fine in 4U. I'd say they really started in P3rd though. Tri at least had OG Barroth.
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>>380995867
haha yeah, I mean when has Crapcom ever pulled a dick move? haha, don't worry friends!
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>>380995609
Naw, I don't think so. Im not against world at all I just enjoy how monster hunter has been in the past installments. The more people who can be turned onto monhun, the better. And, I mean, I'm no badass player but the games have never been overly hard for me. Once you get used to animations times and your general spacing of the monsters and yourself then you're good to go. World may simplify some things or maybe change things outright but I'm still gonna play for love of the franchise.
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>>380988331
Imagine being so butthurt about World that you're willing to go out of your way to play a version you can't read of the worst Monster Hunter, instead of just manning up and getting a Gaming PC/PS4, and joining the hype train with the rest of us.

Fucking fanboys man, I tell you what. If World was Switch exclusive, you fags would be hyped as fuck and bragging about it left and right instead of crying salty crocodile tears about it.
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>>380996249
>Even Darksydephil was able to do fine in 4U
How do people find these games difficult again?
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>>380988331
Only necessary for the items because they are almost all in Kanji, so even if you have a slight grasp in moon you'll still need to assume a lot of the info.
Also, thanks to the retarded upgrading of armor and weapons you'll need a huge quantity of insect, fish, mineral and other monster materials to upgrade any and every weapon.

Anyways the game is way shorter than 4U and the endgame isn't too exiting.
For starters the Deviant Diablos is practically the ultimate threat and casuals have always hated to fight even normal Diablos.
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>>380996249

Oh Jesus, I miss that Barroth. I remember all the salt on /v/ about him. I'm a Tribabby and Barroth was the thing that cemented lance as my weapon of choice because it was the only way I could survive his charges.
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>>380996162

I see this sentiment a lot but I think the reason everyone thinks the timer is irrelevant now, is because the portable game monster hp is tuned for 2 players. I wonder what they will do for that in World since you can call people in mid-hunt, maybe finally add dynamic hp/stagger limit scaling.
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>>380996359
You haven't read anything I've posted, have you?
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>>380996359
>instead of just manning up and getting a Gaming PC/PS4
They have one. I guarantee you that they are not stupid enough to buy only a nintendo console as their sole gaming device. Even Iwata said that people with a WiiU or 3ds had a different company's gaming device to go along with it
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>>380992940
Good, maybe this way katana niggers will stop tripping people with every swing
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>>380996547

Yeah. Wasn't it only in the first game than online monsters were scaled for 4 players? I mean, not that I'm complaining. I find that two players is just right in terms of sharing aggro.
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>>380988331
Monster hunter games are pretty trivial in japanese since there's no story or puzzles, so even if you don't know what something is based on its icon you can just try and find out

You might need a resource like kiranico to figure out what certain items and skills are, but it never gets much harder than that
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Everyone in this thread complaining that moving while drinking a potion somehow 'ruins monhun' are gigantic babies who don't understand game design.

Doing it until it becomes second nature isn't 'liking' a mechanic, it doesn't even make the mechanic good. It's stockholm syndrome at best.
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>>380995812
from what I understand, there is a time limit for the main target, but you don't have to leave right after the monster is killed, and the timer goes away, so you can hunt to your hearts content. pretty good change imo.
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>>380996742

Tri definitely had much higher HP for online monsters than 3U. It was really jarring going from Tri to that game and got annoying doing 4-man rooms because everything died too fast. It had some fun multi-monster arena quests in g-rank though.
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>>380997419
yeah bro, who needs positioning and dedication to the actions you take when we can just turn MH into God Eater?
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>>380997419
If any of my fave weapons come with Adept Mode I'm going to be literally unkillable.
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>>380990608
>console
Nah I rather have monhun on handheld. Sorry consolefags. PC is okay though but I don't know how well it will play since I don't own any gamepads or plan to.
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>>380992940
>People were saying "MH is too anime, Worlds will be mature for western audiences"
>now this
>mounting is even easier
Who's ready for Je suis monte: DD edition?
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>>380996359
Switch will have MHXX and Capcom is probably working on another MH title for Switch
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A bit random but I really miss how you could decorate your house in Tri and other players could visit it. They should bring that back; pimping your room could be great endgame goals
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>Clouds roll in
>See lightning and a second later thunder in the distance
>Crash throw the trees appear Zinogre
How frighten are you?
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>>380998515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auE4CYwszco
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>adept is gone
>have to get actually good at gunner weapons
welp, time to eat for moxie every meal
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>>380998515
>implying I'm frightened of my boi
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>>380998510

>had red guilie dolls in every slot
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>>380992424
What's even more odd is how Capcom even had a say in the Switch's specs when it was being designed, so it's suspicious as hell that they wouldn't be supporting it more than they have shown so far.
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>>380998515
>Zinogre in Worlds
Nope, only skittles Raths for you.
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>>380999014
>50 Raths with only 2 other monsters
Yep sounds like Monster Hunter
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>Can now summon another hunter during the hunt, you no longer get bored waiting and set off on a hunt with 3 people only to have the 4th member join while the map is loading.

>No more stationary drinking flex, you can walk while drinking, which heals over the duration of the animation, being knocked out of the animation stops the heal at that point.

>Lead designers talking about the advances to AI they've been able to make now they are not limited by the 3DS.

>Revamped mounting mechanic, stab the monster with your hunting knife and move to different parts of its body to avoid being shaken off with different animatiosn. Once you've avoided been shaken off several times you pull out your weapon and can do critical attacks.

>Monsters now have over twice as many damage zones, damage numbers for training new playes so they won't be a hindrance on hunts.

>No more bugnets or pickaxes, harvest points are quick collection of a single resource which you can see from their own individual graphic in the zone. More resources spread over the larger map to make up for it.

>Dynamic day cycles on hunts, can move from night time to daytime and vise-versa while hunting.

>no underwater combat

I'm looking forward to it.
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>>380999627
>>no underwater combat
But people are also saying there's swimming. WHAT'S THE POINT?
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>>380994425

Sounds dumb of Capcom.
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>>380988331
Not very from what I've seen. My brother has been playing the chinese only MMO for awhile now without any issues.
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>>380999627
>being knocked out of the animation stops the heal at that point.
this sounds good, has that been confirmed?
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>>380989305
Amazon Japan. Much easier to import through them and they are occasionally cheaper than Play-Asia.
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>>380999860
To swim. The areas are more open, so it's better to let you swim through lakes and rivers than making you go around.
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>>380996359
I have a PS4, fucker. Why can't sonyponnies understand that we are worried about the franchise, and not about exclusivity?
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>>380997419
You tell them mang! Only babies need to learn to rean monsters movements, and a risk/reward mechanic. We men like to not being punished for being bad players!
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>>380988331
I love how every reply is "you just need a wiki and memorization" everytime someone is interested in the japanese version of monster hunter


>Farm for armor
>you dont have an item on the ingredients list
>cant look up the material
>dont know what the armor is named
>cant look up what the monster is either
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>>380988331
Just wait for Monter Hunter World® goyim. Localized in your native language and available on Sony PlayStation 4, Microsoft Xbox One, and PC available late 2018.
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>>380996359
I have a PC for gaming and I still don't feel anything resembling excitement for World. Planning on importing XX, although I can read some moon so it won't be too bad for me.

Hopefully the upcoming reveals some new interesting monsters because the art direction/monster design is the thing that I hate the most about this game so far.
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>>381000293
No but the animation shows the drink slowly being drained while health increases.
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>>381001531
Please goyim, give World a chance. Sony spent a lot of shekels to keep it off the switch
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>>381001727
didn't FU do that too?
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