Are you guys even remotely hyped for this?

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>>380978220
Really am. Need a comfy summer game.

I would be if I had a PS4, but I don't, so I'm not that interested.

>>380978220
It's a game I have already played for 100 hours. Nope. Sick of remasters and re releases, especially from Square enix

>>380978220
Yes

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>>380978220
Already preordered the collector edition game last year on june

in going to buy it when is 20$, like i did with X. Had fun with it, wasted 200+ hours for both X and X-2 plat.

>>380978220

I wouldn't say I'm "hyped," but I'm still going to buy it. XII is my favorite FF, and I've put many hours into it.

>>380978528
Thanks for beta testing. I can't wait to play the definitive version.

>>380978220

Definitely.

>>380978220
The question is, will I be able to put a shirt on Vaan?

>>380978220
Yes. I am remotely hyped, but I'll wait for the inevitable steam release.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to it a lot
FXII is the best game I've never finished slight exaggeration, but still

FF12 International has had a translation patch for years already, so no. Besides, I don't have a PS4.

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Looking forward to jerking it to Fran again.

Game came out at tne wrong time. Back in the day everyone was into anime and japanese melodrama so thy hate how westernized XII was.

If it was released today people would praise it as the 2nd coming and the end of "weebshit"

>>380978220

Yes. But for the PC version that is gonna happen.

Yes but no PS4
PC when

Yeah boi. XII is my absolute jam.

>>380978220
If it were the original I would be

>>380978220
>literally the base game with higher res
Just emulate it, this is an upscale and nothing else.

>>380982094
>he can't cast Ardour and Scourge at the same time
lol

I'm still confused though I want to buy it for the sake of having the physical item but I could easily emulate it or even wait for the probable PC version, what should I do ?

A little bit, yeah.

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>>380978220
Yes, but more for the prospect of the PC port, yes it is easy to emulate, but the fixed the sound quality and upgraded textures and still means it is a upgrade.

>>380982094
That's just wrong, they also removed the Spell Queue, Job System now give 2 Jobs per Character, sound files have been remastered to remove the "Phone" filter and other shit.

Can't wait to try over and over for the flaming bow in the desert, and the zodiac spear.

LOL, who are we kidding, they'll have a bonus pack that unlocks the spear right away.

>>380981256
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>>380978220
You bet.

>>380978220
I might buy it but not at launch

>>380978220
>second best rpg of an entire generation
>nearly flawless as dog
>not hyped

>>380982505
you know there is a path to the zodiac spear in the base game right
the chest you farm is for when you messed up

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Am I the only one who voluntarily went with the non-steelbook version? I'm a bit disappointed that they didn't use the original Japanese boxart for the steelbook and then use THIS art for the normal boxart

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>>380978220
No because i already own the original PS2 version.

>Not turn based
Blech. No thanks, I'm not a giant fucking retard pleb who only started gaming 7 years ago.

>>380978220
No, but then again I've played the original and emulated IZJS. I do hope it's going to introduce new players to it, especially those those who didn't really appreciate it back in the day because it wasn't like FF10.

>>380982681
What is the first?
I love how more and more XII fans are crawling out of the woodwork the closer we get to release. Wasn't that long ago you couldn't even mention it on /v/ without 500 post backlash of pure, unfiltered shitposting

>>380978220
Call me when they bring this on pc.

>>380982414
>they also removed the Spell Queue
You say I can be a proper mage now? That's fucking huge if true.

>>380982414
>>>>sound filters removed
Thank you, sweet Jesus
The dialogue and music sound good enough to deserve something other than a tin can

>>380982996
>without 500 post backlash of pure, unfiltered shitposting
Sound like vee itself

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>>380982937
>Settings
>Set ATB to Wait
>Enjoy turn based combat.

>>380982414
>fixed the sound quality
You mean the voices don't sound like a 1kb jpeg image anymore? Holy thank Fuck

>>380978220
I already played it to death on release. I don't want or need to use up another 80-120 hours of my life on it.

>>380982414
>sound files have been remastered
yep. now i'm hype

>>380982996
It's almost as if the game is kinda shitty with shit characters, shit plot, shit filler, and mediocre music. The fans praise the gameplay and that's literally all this game has going for it. Even that is simply good, not great.

>>380980629
Zodiac Age can be emulated.

>>380978220
How many gbs ?

>>380978220
Ugh, that fucking art with ladyboy front and center. I'm sick of Nomura's ladyboys. They really let him off his leash for this game

>>380984138
>The fans praise the gameplay
What a fucking travesty.
Also, the music is great, Ashe, Basche, Balthier, Cid and Reddas were great, plot is far better than the stupid anime shit present in the rest of the series, and I don't even know what you mean by "shit filler", you probably didn't even find half of the sidequests on your first playthrough.

can i stare at penelos thicc butt?

>>380984475
Pls respond

>>380984329
It can? Are you sure you ain't talking about IZJS?

Anyway for the interested:
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XII/Version_differences

Version Differences, the main cause for concern is "The game balance has been overhauled to make it easier", but the source for that is Polygon so i ain't clicking to see the context.

Damn right I am. I really enjoyed FF12, but never got to finish it due to being in the Navy when it came out. Deployment happened then my old roommate sold my PS2 and games while I was out to sea

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>>380984475
More than you can afford pal

I'll relive it and my nostalgia when it comes to PC. Sad to say I am no longer a sonybro anymore.

>>380984819
>Are you sure you ain't talking about IZJS?
Zodiac Age is basically IZJS with better graphics.
And if your PC isn't shit you can get better graphics.

>Game balance
>The game balance has been overhauled to make it easier

>>380978220
Yeah but I suspect it to come out on PC within a year so I'm gonna wait on that.

>>380982414
>Ashe was going to leave Basch for this in the unreleased game

>>380978220
hyped for the pc version

>>380985581
came to post this which is kinda weird because I've already played izjs at 4k

>>380982785
that looks good though. isn't the original just the logo with gabranth?

>>380985116
To be fair, the game balance overhaul very well could be the "2 JOBS!" and removal of spell waiting features (Which we know off because trailers show highlevel spells used simultaneously.) and nothing more.

it is cause of concern but i think it is too early to say that it isn't going to be a improvement to the point that when PS4 emulation is thing people gonna say you should emulate this or pirate the PC version instead, the spell thing is a HUGE mechanical improvement.

Then again...
>S-E PC Port
>Well made
Pick one.

>>380985504
>Basch leaves Ashe for this in the ending of the first game.

>>380985809
Original Logo is Gabranth and Venat.

>>380978220
Whoses best girl?

>>380978220
Hype is a bit strong word, but considering that I never got around finishing FFXII before, I'm waiting for this to get another go at it.

>>380986439
vaan

>>380978220
No. I ran 3 campaigns for this shit over 10 years ago, I'm not going back to it.

>>380978220
slightly
havent played the game since it came out
but i'll probably wait for the PC release

>>380986439
Larsa desu
The doujins are canon

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>>380978220
I'm not hyped at all.

FFXII has one of the most poorly paced and directed videogame stories ever produced. It's on par with Devil May Cry 2, IMO. Disjointed cutscenes, no real direction, with horrible pacing and a main character that doesn't even feel like he fits into the narrative, like he was a last minute addition.

In addition to that, the game plays like a single player offline MMO. Let me repeat. A FUCKING SINGLE PLAYER OFFLINE MMO.

The fact that people unironically claim it to be their favorite or one of/the best FF game in existence boggles my fucking mind. The game is objectively flawed.

That being said, I never did play the Zodiac Job System version, and haven't played the game in forever, so I might actually pick this up if I can get it for cheap, just to experience the job system and to re-experience the game itself.

No, XII was SE's first "actually bad" Final Fantasy title, it's boring as shit.

>>380987075
>main character
>he
Stopped reading desu

>>380978220
I know I may be the minority here, but in terms of gameplay I thought FF12 was the best. However, it has several flaws.... quiet a bit actually, but they seem easy to resolve.

That's why I hoped FF14 when ARR was announced, having a similar hud like 12, I jizzed myself hoping to play a game like it online. Then I found out ARR was just a watered down WoW. The announcement for FF12 remastered has me hyped.

>>380987075
>In addition to that, the game plays like a single player offline MMO. Let me repeat. A FUCKING SINGLE PLAYER OFFLINE MMO.
People say same about Xenoblade Chronicles, and that game is also GOAT.

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>>380987075
Vaan's not the main character

>>380987075
You should really play games before you try to talk about them anon.

>>380987217
In Xenoblade you actually do stuff with your main character while the other two are AI handled.
In FFXII the game plays itself to the point that the hardest boss in the game requires you to just leave your console running while you do other stuff.

So Ashe really wanted the pirate dick right?

>>380987576
I remember I thought this. Then I actually played the game and found out how wrong I was.

12 made me quit FF.
After X being a step in the wrong direction but high in production value all the same, XII did just about all the wrong shit possible.
>Turns Ivalice, best world in all FF works, into a knock-off star wars title
>Worse sphere grid equivilent
>Offline MMO combat that the 7 .Hack// games before it did better and unlike them has 0 reason for it
>Hunts
>Deserts plague a lot of biomes
>Magic got fucked over
>Character models and voices were tolerable at best
>Felt a ton more Sci-Fi than Fantasy
>Team of 6 has 3 pairs of 2 who have almost 0 chemistry outside of their bubble

>>380987075
>didn't play the objectively superior version of the game
>"How does anyone like this? It was shit!"
Maybe try playing the International version instead of the vanilla version before judging it.

Also
>"it's shit because it's a single player MMO!"
So was Xenoblade, and everyone acts like that's the GOAT JRPG

>>380987341
I played 20 hours and I agree with him, FFXII is total dogshit, the only worse rpg I've played is FFXIII.

>>380987678
You must mean you were dumb, because that's exactly how it is except for a few select boss fights when you lack some gambits.

>>380987010
>wearing a thong outside the shorts

>>380987864
genius design

>>380978220
I'm one of the ten people who actually prefer the original board, so no.

>>380987698
>Team of 6 has 3 pairs of 2 who have almost 0 chemistry outside of their bubble
This is the worst offender for me.
Especially Vaan and Penelo have no fucking reason to exist in the game.
Basch and Ashe are the real MCs.

>>380987698
>Offline MMO combat that the 7 .Hack// games before it did better and unlike them has 0 reason for it
>GU
>mmo combat
>IMOQ
>doing combat better then any video game
Come the fuck on.

>>380987698
Also forgot
>Of Ivalice's multitude of races, it's 5 humans and 1 Viera, the race fucked hardest in 12's adaptations
>One family of moogles is seen
>Nu Mou are not present
>Seeq but no Gria
>Bangaa lose all traces of prideful nature and strict background tied to becoming Templars and Monks and become sand thugs

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>>380978220
Never beat a FF game.
Should I be getting this and (X+X-2) on PS2 for free or PS4?

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>>380987864
I've come up with all kinds of mental gymnastics to explain it but the truth is that she was designed for the dick to understand, not the brain. I'm fine with that.

>>380988184
This is not a game for final fantasy fans. Play VII or something instead and branch out from there.

So since everyone can have 2 jobs, what will be best combos

>>380988184
FFX is garbage and the only people who like it are fujos who sell insert as Yuna because she has as much personality and character as dish water.
Play FF Tactics, the best FF game. Get the psp version and the mod that fixes the slow downs / widescreen.

>>380988124
>Nu Mou not present
Fuck off.

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When I look at FFXII all I see is Yiazmat 2 hours auto battle.

>>380987075
>FFXII has one of the most poorly paced and directed videogame stories ever produced. It's on par with Devil May Cry 2, IMO. Disjointed cutscenes, no real direction, with horrible pacing and a main character that doesn't even feel like he fits into the narrative, like he was a last minute addition.
because he is, at SE they understood halfway not a single nip would play anything but a j-pop idol
>In addition to that, the game plays like a single player offline MMO. Let me repeat. A FUCKING SINGLE PLAYER OFFLINE MMO.
I feel sorry for you who used gambits, really, yes it is a retarded design choice: "gimp yourself to enjoy the game"
>The fact that people unironically claim it to be their favorite or one of/the best FF game in existence boggles my fucking mind. The game is objectively flawed.
because it has one of the best gameplay in the serie, on a very few game where weapons and armor matter, also, you have a lot of spells and not just recolored fireballs
>That being said, I never did play the Zodiac Job System version, and haven't played the game in forever, so I might actually pick this up if I can get it for cheap, just to experience the job system and to re-experience the game itself.
it was the point of it, the base game was stupid, the jobs did everything better and you had to think a little bit instead of just grabbing the sword with the best stats to facetank the content

>>380988184
If you don't mind PS1 graphics go with 7-8-9, then 10 if you liked them. If you like older stuff go with 4 and 6.

>>380985116
>Zodiac Age is basically IZJS with better graphics.
>And if your PC isn't shit you can get better graphics.
Things that emulation don't have:
>Fixing broken blur
>Better texture quality
>Better materials
>Fingers
>Non blurry font
>Multiclassing
That last one is debatable since you might prefer one class only.

I played it last time on ps2 with broken controller. I really eanna getbit, but I have a fuvkin terrible bavklog atm

So we will have more doujins too yes? Pls say yes

>>380988661
>not recommending 5, the best ff

>>380988906
I'm trying to think of a lewd idea to draw for it right now.

>>380978220
Got stuck on the last boss and never beat it, so yeah, I'd like to finish.

>>380988890
Probably because you're clearly drunk all the time.

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>>380989274
Had disabled fuckin rgb on keyboard. I'll blame the dark.

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>>380978220
I don't do hype, trailers, E3, previews or eceleb cunts.

But yeah I'll probably pick this up. Oh and FF12 came out in 2006 iirc OP so what's there to hype anyways?

>>380988851
>That last one is debatable since you might prefer one class only.
Are people really this fucking stupid? You can just not invest in the second class. Like you, know, not filling in the freeform license board. But nope, they'll happily eat shit because just the mention of jobs pull their nostalgia strings.

>>380978220
I stopped playing ff years ago but how in the fuck does anyone keep up with the names?? It jumps back and forth numerically and xxs and shit. It is more cofusing then buying GPUs.

>>380989607
Being a fan of something and having an excuse to replay it with new content / making it prettier or some other added spin on it.
I'm super hyped for .hack//gu remastered because its adding more story to the game and possibly adding in cut content.

>>380989928
XII means 12 in roman numbers

>>380978220
I heard it is going to PC, is it true or not? Just curious.

I'm hyped for the pc release
>100% gendarme and seitengrate methods wont be available anymore
oh boy....

>>380989928
You don't have to keep up with the names. Most games are unrelated anyway.

>>380989928
>It jumps back and forth numerically
Oh no, he is retarded.

>>380978220
Hey, I was wondering if this version/remaster will be definitive. I hope it won't be a total blunder that remasters of X were. Also, I hope they don't cut and/or censor anything out.

>>380978220
FFT and the Ivalice world are going to be 20 years old in 2 days.

Never played this final Fantasy game. Is it fun?

>>380982414
Is this cute semen demon a love interest?

>>380987576
A huge issue I have with Xenoblade is not having any control of party members outside of tension chains, people need to understand that the game would be a lot better if you could tell your party members what to do in specific situations like XII gambits do.

>>380988124
That was really stupid. I mean come on, what is even the point of setting a game in that era of Ivalice if you're not going to make good use of the other races?

>>380990793
I'm not sure if I should tell you the truth.

>>380990692
i found it pretty fun but it's not for everyone

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>>380989973
Now that you mention it I am excited for .Hack my negro bro.

>>380990820
Xenoblade's gameplay is so simplistic I don't think it would make much difference to be honest.
The only "complex" character to use was the magical girl, which makes you pick her as party leader for most of the game.

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>>380990879
Fun fact: Larsa is voiced by a actual male child actor rather then going the HAVE WOMAN PRETEND SHE IS A BOY route.

Larsa is also probably the most feminine person Ivalice ever had.

Will they add Watera and Waterga for player use?
Having only basic Water is fucking lame
Maybe some Earth magic too?

>cuckstation
lol

>>380978220
nope, i beat the ps2 version ages ago.

And Balthier is the best FF character ever.

>>380978220
I already have the original on console.
If it was a hard exclusive with no chance of it coming out on PC I'd consider it, but seeing how every other FF game from 1 to 14 was ported I'll just wait.

Y'know I never knew about 12 in particular until a few months ago. I knew of most all of the games and their protagonists but it never occured to me that there'd be a 12. I've never heard anything about this game

>>380992874
I don't what their problem was with that. They just put water on some kind of pedestal and treated it as if it was special.

>>380993471
Its good. Vaan isn't the protag, Ashe is.

>>380993471

That's because there's nothing to know about XII.

>>380978220
Really disliked XII the first time I played it but always liked the sound of the zodiac edition changes so yeah, I do plan on picking up the remaster and giving it another shot. Even if it just makes the gameplay passable for me that's good enough, I already like the characters and love the Ivalice setting.

>>380984643
>you probably didn't even find half of the sidequests on your first playthrough.
This is something that surprised me, just how many sidequests their were that weren't tracked anywhere. The sidequests that are tracked (marks) is an insanely huge sidequest on its own, almost being a central part of the questing. Things like the fishing game or the footrace minigame I completely ignored the first time I played the game. I also missed the rare game sidequest. I never went back to the great crystal or went back to the pharos of ridorana.

So much of the game is optional but the care crafted in those optional areas was out of this world. I am enjoying the game so much more on my replay than my initial playthrough. Alot of the world building makes much more sense and the general layout of all the mechanics and combat just click in these "endgame" zones.

Fuck the great crystal not having a map though.

>>380978220
If it was on vita sure, but it aint. Nice art though

>>380993624
never finding lvl 2 or lvl 3 water spells infuriated me specially when an enemy casted them

>>380978220
Nope - I finished it once and was bored throughout.
Multiple attempts with the Zodiac System bored me still.

>>380995163
It took me three playthroughs to find the Earth Tyrant. Fucking blew me away because I'd just totally forgot about that one part of the Estersand you can't get through.
Hyped isn't even the word. I can't rember half the shit tucked away in this game and I can't wait to discover it all over again.

>>380993471
>Vaan
>Protag

He's a PoV character that they used to have the other characters explain the world too. Well that and a "healing" character that's supposed to help the others get over their problems.

>>380978220
Only baby's first ff enjoyed 12. It bombed hard

>>380988124
>one family of moogles is seen
Multiple families. There are Gurdy and Hurdy and their family. The Moogle 8 being sold to by the Seeq, the cartographer's guild, and the Moogle reconstruction team. Moogles became the dwarves of 12, doing all the menial clockwork construction. In canon they are the best airship builders. Their handiwork and dedication is all pride based. They have a fucking culture even if they aren't playable.
>Nu Mou are not present
Didn't play the game. There is a whole sidequest relating to 3 Medallions that are done with Nu Mou and they have a good story in it. All of Mt. Bur-Omasice and the religion around it are stewarded by Nu Mou. They are the scholars of the world.
>Bangaa lose all traces of prideful nature...
In Dalmasca, a war torn desert locale, everyone suffers and becomes vagrant sand thugs. Migelo, a Bangaa and Penelo's foster father runs a proud business and is economically prosperous (thru backroom dealings). The bangaa in the Empire thrive, even though they recognize the racism of the empire, they work within it. Seeing mostly Seeq and Bangaa in Nabradia did send a message though.

The culture in 12 is good, people just didn't see it because they play FF games like themepark rides: do the thing then move to the next ride. You have to actually talk to NPC's and do the sidequests to see life to the fullest. Hell, the Seeq band of robbers by Barheim are ran by a Human female, after hours of setting it up to be just another Seeq or Bangaa. They even go so far as to subvert your expectations.

>>380978220
>Slow shitty MMO-style combat
>Game literally plays itself and it's tedious as fuck if you don't use gambits
>Literally fell asleep several times playing the original release
Yeah I'm pretty excited

Yes. When does it release?

11/07

>>380996403
Damn, July?
That's soon

>>380996206
>When you kill a ton of enemies in chains and then read the bestiary to learn about their habitats and culture

There was a lot of attention to detail that people don't see.

>>380991653

I believed Larsa was a girl for the longest time.

Then one day, a trip to paheal suddenly made me question my sexuality forever.

Upon further playthroughs, Balthier cemented that question.


Final Fantasy XII made me a fag. Beware newcomers, the same may happen to you.

>>380978220
Didn't like it the first time round. Dropped it around the time you go to the snowy area to get a sword

vaan was just there to appeal to younger demographic. i liked vaan when the game came out but having played it, i thought basch and ashe were actually the focus of the game

>>380997081
The only actual focus character was Ashe. Basch was pretty irrelevant after the first arc.

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>>380997081
>Not BALLINthier

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>>380996738
I wish I could transformed into a gay individual because there are far more male persons I know that I would like to fall in love with, than girls.

>>380996217
The game starts everyone off with 1 gambit set to attack the nearest enemy. Change that to attack what the party leader attacks and you manage all the rest of the combat yourself. There you have xenoblade where you can go in and choose any option when needed.

I set up a few extra gambits as they arose but it takes 10 minutes combined in your entire playthrough.
>1 person casts libra on themselves
>cast bubble on party leader or yourself. If on party leader you just have to hit up/down on d-pad to instantly change party leader and the gambit will trigger
>cast curaja at 40% hp, this will heal everyone and negate the need to keep healing each person
>set 1 person to steal against enemies with 70% or more hp
There, you just set up all the gambits you will EVER need. all other actions you can micromanage as they come up. Setting a single ailment cast esunaga negates 90% of the other shit you would have to micromanage anyway and still play the game. Gambits were awesome, the only people who hate them are trogs that can't think for themselves.

>>380996720
>when you find a monster that only spawns under specific weather conditions and realize your beastiary wasn't as complete as you thought.
>when you can kill an elemental for the first time
>when you find a rare game before you even know they are a thing and get almost wrecked
>when an enemy cannibalizes another for the first time and their level doubles
>when you fight your first optional boss and they lock out items or make metal armor slow down your ATB
>when you find the first crystal mimic and shit your pants
>when you finally find a way to get to that one point on the zone map by coming in from a totally separate zone and the monsters are on a different tier powerlevel.
>having Bender yell at you and laugh at you while being a total putz.
The combat and exploration around it were amazing.

>>380997414
The way he constantly insisted he was the leading man was neat.

>>380997358
Basch stays pretty central to the story in relation go Gabranth and his actions thru out the game. His ending is monumentally important to his character building and the world outlook as a whole. Only Penelo is useless, because her use is to be a foil for Vaan and he naturally outgrows the need for her to do that job. Vaan is pretty cool by the end of the game.

>>380998025
He's relevant because of Gabranth's existence but they don't actually do anything with Basch as a character once you get past the Sandsea until the very end when they remember that Gabranth exists.

>>380997081
Yeah pretty much, all the other characters had some form of relevancy to the story,
ashe is the grudge holding princess,
basch is the knight who lost his country and honor the same night,
balthier is a former judge and the son of the mad scientist in charge of the manufacturing of nethicites for military prurposes
Fran is the exiled viera from eruyt village, she's highly knowledgeable about mist and lore and she's also the sidekick of balthier
And vaan and penelo are just war orphans that that do not seek revenge and serve as a way for the player to identify themselves to give some sort of external point of view to the party

>>380978220
If I had a ps4 then hell yea I would be getting it. But I don't. So I'm breaking out my old ps2 copy and waiting for a Steam release.

>>380978220
Fell PS4 needs good FF game after all, since XV was a disaster

>>380998387
>Vaan does not seek revenge
Vaan's motivation for the first quarter/third of the game was to get revenge on the empire and if people fuck Basch's shit up for betraying his brother. He's the one who really carries the party until when Ashe joins for the real and takes over as leader.

>>380995163
>Alot of the world building makes much more sense

The lore entries were a nice touch.

>>380996403
Game size?

>>380998265
yeah except for all the cutscenes in between the sandsea and the showdown on the airship with Gabranth.
>showing all the judges are fractured, loyalties are hidden and manipulated
>has to kill someone he clearly cares for for the greater good
>lets his inner rage for his hand in Nabradia in urging Ashe to use the Sun Cryst to destroy
>knows about the occuria by proxy, knows man's history is about violence and war

The history of Ivalice sees Basch and Gabranth as 2 sides of the same coin, they meld into one being in history. Both living in shadows and only showing a single side of who they are to the light of history. As the game goes on Basch resigns himself to the fate he ultimately chooses in the end. You see him not thinking Ashe's idea of living in the shadows as being smart to him slowly realizing that is what is needed to really do what they want, to him realizing he personally has to commit to it for it to REALLY work as he has injected himself into the scenario.

Plebs hate FF12 plain and simple. If you understand anything about its themes it handles it well, even in its admittedly butchered state.

There's even signs of different ages in tech shown in the game. The airships run off mist, then develop ways to function without it. Before that they extracted oil in the Nam-Yensa. The Jagds exist because of atom bomb style testing on magicite, leading to exclusion zones similar to chernobyl where the magic "radiation" messes up their current tech. There is world building on display all over the place in 12 and its thoughtful and reasonable.

>>380998565
His only motivation and dream is to ba a sky pirate, the first time you see him in the game he's looking at ships in the sky daydreaming about them.
Of course he wants the empire and basch to pay for what happened to his brother but ultimately he realizes that not only basch is innocent but also that being thirsty with vengeance is pointless because he can see it in the way ashe acts, she's blinded by anger.

>>380983656
XII isn't really set up for "pure" traditional turn-based combat though.

>>380978220
I am.

If it comes to steam.

>>380978220
Of course. I have a copy for PS2. It's the undisputed champion of Final Fantasy games.

>>380999359
The thing with Basch vs Gabranth is that its mostly one sided on Gabranth's end because he's busy doing stuff on the other side of continent instead of actually interacting with the party until the very end.

The player knows that Gabranth as a beef with Basch and that the other kind of regrets what happened before but they cram in a lot of their interactions with each other at the very end.

>>380999376
He doesn't settle on the sky pirate thing until Jahara which is a good while after Ashe joins and he has time to interact with Basch and understand that he's not a ruthless bastard. It was a dream that he gained over the course of the game and not one that he started with.

I never played it. I heard it's pretty dry but it's only 30 bucks so I might give it a try. Especially since JRPGs still seem kinda rare these days.

>>380988581
>I feel sorry for you who used gambits, really, yes it is a retarded design choice: "gimp yourself to enjoy the game"

What? Gambits were great though. The problem was that they've only been used in a single, narrative driven game where you only control a single group of three. They definitely need to be used for a more open ended and expansive game.

>>380978220
Nope. Rogue Galaxy is far superior.

Talking about FF, just got Type 0 HD and comes with a code to download Episode Duscae, is that demo worth playing?

>>380991653
>Larsa is voiced by a actual male child actor rather then going the HAVE WOMAN PRETEND SHE IS A BOY route.

The work put into the VA for the game was simply astounding.

>>380978220
Not really, I already finished the PS2 original version, and I have no desire to replay this, and they give you absolutely none with this new release.
It's good for those who missed it though, maybe the higher quality sounds alone are worth it. I don't remember too much but I do distinctly remember that the speech quality was like listening to someone talk through some old busted radio from the 60s.

>>380985504
>Basch fighting to save the world
>gets captured
>Ashe gets mad and cucks him while hes imprisoned
>Basch dies
So glad that sequel got trashed. Ashe is a whore. Fran shouldve banged Basch.

>>381000123
You are right they endload his interactions but not entirely so. They interact thru out the game when they meet, its usually just typical sibling bickering. Even before the reveal there are numerous hints as to what it is. Him being Basch's personal endgame boss makes perfect sense for his character growth. Gabranth wasn't even his brother, the guy in the suit is his brother, Gabranth is just the title. Basch understands that by the end and makes amends with his brother to finish what he started, in a better way. Like passing a torch.

The real flaw was the sense of urgency in the various cutscenes then letting the player fuck off for 20 hours on their own and the next cutscene starting with that same urgency still in tack. But then thats also the players fault in some regard.

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>it's literally been a decade since the last good FF

>>380989607
This. I might buy it if I get bored, I already beat the original 100% though and didn't like the battle system at all however.

>>380981472
Maybe you are right, I bet peole would appreciate the more political and grounded aspect of the story, since normies love Game of Thrones, and I understand it's something similar (never watched GoT so I might be mistaken).

>>381000123
Vaan realizes revenge is pointless because there is nothing he can do so he wants to become a sky pirate to evade his situation to run away from the empire that's how he begins the game. Dude was just afraid and lonely without his brother.

>>380978220
It's not on PC, so no.

>>381000828
FF14 is good.

>>381000967
Its honestly more star wars prequels thematically. A big empire fighting a resistance. A cloud city giving the good guys up to the vader type guy. You got your Han and sexy Chewy, your leia character.

Its star wars in a fantasy setting.

>>380982996
Well, the game is legitimately very bad if you compare it to the great classic Final Fantasy games, it's flaws become more apparent. But if you compare it to everything that came after (FFXIII trilogy, FFXV...FFXIV to a lesser extent), it's a great game.

>>380978220
Yeah. I'll take remaSter of old FF over the direction the new ones are going in.

>>381001476
There's no Luke though.

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>>380978220
sv_hipstermode 1
Fuck yes I'm hyped, me and the other 3 anons on this board who love this game and have defended it from /v/'s pleb taste for over a decade now can't wait to see all the nu-fans come out of their caves and praise this game and how they "always loved it"

>a shit game... BUT IN HD

nah

>>380978220
Nope, 12 was the beginning of the end. That's the point when the series really started to go downhill fast. Sure, 10 was already meh, but it was still passable. Didn't even bother to finish 12, then raged at 13 and laughed at the demo of 15. Now the series is utter garbage.

>>380998025
Penelo is the token genki girl
Like Yuffie or Selphie

I pre-ordered the steelbook edition when there was an error and I ended up getting it for like $27. Not sure if Amazon will still send it to me though. My order hasn't been cancelled yet. Anyone have any experience with shit like this?

>>381001709
Luke was split between Basch and Vaan. Vaan has all the dumb optimism of Luke while Basch has a familial relationship to the games Vader (Gabranth), and goes thru an arc of denial then anger, then acceptance.

There is no central Yoda, that is the real problem.

>>380980594
>XII is my favorite FF
Shit people say who don't even like what FF games used to be. What you said makes as much sense as saying "FIFA 18 is my favorite Dark Souls".

>>381002275
Not for a video game but yeah I've had errors in my favor from stuff before. They never blame the buyer (unless its for MtG products). If its ever not in the buyer's favor they bend over backwards to make it right for them.

Amazon is great in how cucked they are about wanting good reviews.

>>381002498
What did FF games used to be that FF12 lacks?

>>381002750
good

>>381002498
No need to be a salty bitch about it. It's just his favorite game with Final Fantasy in the title.

>>381002498
What's your favorite Final Fantasy then?
And if it's not 8-bit game with selectable classes it's not true Scottish Final Fantasy.

>>381002498
Are you enjoying attacking that strawman you made up?

>>381002824
and how did FF12 not have "good?"

>>380978220
Should I be hyped for a game I've already played? Really?

No. I appreciate it and I love XII but I'm not going to play it again.

>>380981472
This is actually makes sense.

>>380978220
I'm excited, but also wary they'll fuck up the graphics like they did their last remaster.

>>381003082
If it's a good game needing an excuse for replay, then maybe yes?

>>381003225
They brought back most of the original team to touch up the game. Most the shown footage looks pretty good.

Reminder that you can have each character with 2 jobs instead of 1 in the ps2 international edition

>>381003540
sorta like a multiclass?

>>380985004
Kek.

>>381003285
Not him, but I played it 10 years ago, yes I liked it, yes it's flawed, but I feel absolutely no desire to replay it. Higher resolution and better sound quality isn't enough for me to even consider it.

>>381003540
Too bad the characters' outfits don't change based on jobs.

>>381003071
it's what it had, it's what older games "used to be".

>>381003603

From what I've seen you pick your first class and on that classes' board there's a license you buy which lets you get a second one

>>381003540
what the fuck is the point then? this is none better than the fully upgraded license boards in the base game everyone can do (almost) everything again

>>381003859
One class is too restrictive and full board is too lame. Middle ground bitch

>>380996318
In less than a month.

>>381002498
My favorite FF games are FFV and FFXII
They're both different, but also great Final Fantasy games

Are you going to bitch because he didn't say FFII or some shit?

>>381003285
Fair point.

I enjoyed my time with it back then, but unless it's a full-on remake that fixes several flaws, I see no need to replay it.

Do they still force you to control Vaan when in towns?

>>381003692
So he's mad that the game was a return to form and theme and was upset that they didn't continue the terrible trends of FF10 hallway boogaloo?

12 is closer to the older 8-16 bit FFs than it is to the ps1-2 era ones. People just don't realize it because they are idiots. The lore and worldbuilding were more akin to modern day dark souls than it was to other 3d rpgs at the time. You had to spend time in the universe interacting with it to understand the various viewpoints instead of having it vomited onto your lap in cutscenes.

>>381004018
The penultimate design should have been keep the old liscense board, let the player pick a preferred class and have their starting point reflect it, then modify the LP cost of unlocking skills. Make stuff in their class cost the same or slightly cheaper, make stuff outside their class much more expensive. It passively nudges you into doing your class but lets you go outside it for needed skills at the cost of value. make the player do endless hours of grinding if they want to unlock the whole thing if they want, but the time wouldn't be worth it, making them a laughing stock if they hold a complaint with its design.

I already have it on PS2.

>>381004430
That's just making the game more grindy. If you are gonna restrict items, make it fully. You can just set up gambits and leave for a couple of hours to farm LP, thats no fun at all

>>381004284
It depends on the flaws really. Remakes uses Zodiac version with some additions, so it's definitely better than the vanilla US/EU experience.

>>380978220
>uses the Zodiac Job system
Nope. Maybe I'll get it for 8 bucks in a steam sale a couple year from now.

>>381004937
Wanting "muh every character is same" system from the original. With it's greatly designed character development system the lottery board.

>>381004690
It'll be a superior experience, sure, but not one that would make me hyped. I'd definitely consider getting it on sale though.

>>380982094
Is it just a straight remastered port of IJS or did they at least give you the option to choose between the class system and classic license board? Never played IJS and I've heard most of the classes are complete shit.

>>380978220
Yeah I preordered it

So since you can pick 2 jobs for everyone, which ones would you put on everyone?

>>381004669
>>381004430
I personally would've preferred if each character had their own specific License Board, each with paths that reflected their job "archetypes". That way it stays open ended but prevents characters from becoming carbon copies.

>>380978220
Wow, that cover is definitely not Yoshida's work.

>>381005387
Wut? Are you blind?

>>380978220
Yes, but I'm not spending 60$ on it unless I have absolutely nothing else to play around that time frame, will wait for 20$-30$

>>381004669
It only makes the grinding useless after a point. You shouldn't be grinding kills for LP for a skill you don't need, but simply want. You should have the freedom to do it, but it should be in such a way as to make it unneeded or unnecessary. With the new system I might need multiple people with a curaja or esunaga or bubble but can't because I also need my tank or thief guy. Yeah the 2 boards minimizes when this happens but my system completely eliminates it.

If you are a mage and want to use a katana you should be able to, or try to steal if you want, you just have to "train harder" for the ability to do it. Under the new system you won't have the party you want unless you go wrpg style and min max your character before you even start the game. Just let people play the game and learn it instead of having them feel compelled to go online for reference sheets.

Missible syndrome is one of the strangest things in RPGs. Fans hate missibles, this system makes entire combat systems a missible in the abstract. My system doesn't, just rebalances when/if people get ALL the skills.

In my FF12 playthrough right now with the old board my party is in the early 60's in lvl and most but not all of the board is mastered. There is still more to get but I've done almost everything in the game, only working on the last few rare hunts and the last 2 marks. I'm still not completely done the board and would already need useless grinding to master it just for the sake of mastering it. Let people do that if they want but make the general outlay just nudge them toward actually doing their class. People that would grind for all the skills under my system are free to do so but it would be categorically in the "time wasted" camp after a point. But let them decide that for themselves instead of just closing entire avenues down.

>>380978220
I'm buying a PS4 and the collector's edition at launch because I enjoy the game that much. I've beaten IZJS multiple times. Please tell me how much of a cuck I am. It pleases me.

>>380987698
>>Turns Ivalice, best world in all FF works, into a knock-off star wars title
You mean it improved Ivalice and turned it into a really fun and interesting fantasy setting.
Old Ivalice was fucking shit.

>>381005685
you're such a massive cuck you will buy the collectors edition for everyone in this but yourself.

>>381005685
Anyone who fucks language like that can't be called a cuck.

>>381005810
Technically XII IS Old Ivalice.

>>380987075
>FFXII has one of the most poorly paced and directed videogame stories ever produced. It's on par with Devil May Cry 2, IMO. Disjointed cutscenes, no real direction, with horrible pacing and a main character that doesn't even feel like he fits into the narrative, like he was a last minute addition.
You are seriously retarded.

>>381005970
true
Point is, Tactics is one of the greatest stories in any rpgs with a really well done world but I prefer the more colorful and fantastical setting of Ivalice in 12 and Tactics advance.

>>380978220
I bought the square enix collectors edition, since its my favorite ff title to date.

>>381005065
>what are player creates character builds
>what is self control

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>>381006139
forgot my picture

>>381006131
Tactics is basically set in a post-disaster setting so it makes sense that it would be dreary and whatnot.

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>>381006290
>mfw this shit is 300 bucks

>>380988581
>because he is, at SE they understood halfway not a single nip would play anything but a j-pop idol
Why do people keep repeating this lie? Baasch was only the main character in the very, very early planning stages. Vaan was the main character before it ever left planning. It's not like RE1.5 where they had most of a game but scrapped it.

>>381006430
its 199.99

you must be canadian or something buddy.

>>381002498
To think that still there are autistic people like you out there. I doubt you aren't a teenager though

>>381005178
How many GBs?

>>381006290
The cards would've been nice if they were new or unreleased artwork, but standard character portraits is such a disappointment.

I'm getting it for $6 after $19.99 price mistake and a few amazon credits I had. Should keep me busy until Destiny 2

>>381006290
I only wish I waas American

>>380978220
Yeah, because I've never had a chance to really play this game. And I love the other Ivalice Alliance games.

>>381006461
The meme persists because even casuals realize Basch being the main character with Ashe would have made a better game. The beginning of the game should have been from Her POV and finding Vaan down in the sewers mucking around being his typical streetrat self. It would have framed the conflict between the Empire and the Resistence better. We don't need Vaan to know the EMPIRE was gonna be bad guys and the RESISTENCE would be good.

>>381007453
The Empire did nothing wrong though.

>>381007931
I know. But you don't realize that they are just an opposing viewpoint and have actually helped their citizens until you play the game. Vayne is to blame, not the empire, they even tried to stop the war. His own brothers try to stop him.

There really aren't opaque good guys or bad guys in Ivalice games. Just differing viewpoints taken to logical extremes to the point of being illogical.

>>380978220
Yeah, definitely in my top3 FFs
And improvements in this seem real tasty

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>>380978220

I think I preordered it but I don't remember.

>>380978220

I'm not flipping out, but I'm comfortably looking forward to picking it up because I never got to play the version with the job system.

Is it just a graphical enhancement of the game's "Zodiac" version, or is there more new content never before seen?

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>>381001954
MUH 'B-BUT I LIKED IT FIRST!"

This is not kindergarten, grow the fuck up manchild

>>380989042
Fran getting nailed by Vann or by a bunch of street urchins, or Fran getting rapped my monsters.

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>>381008767
>>Fran getting nailed by Vann

>>381009041
>that modest abdomen
Thank fuck that spraypaint ab job is gone

Can't wait for the PC version so I can pirate it an add it to my Steam as a shortcut with a custom image and then never play it, just like the other 15 or so Final Fantasy games

>>380988184
Get X remaster. Best FF to finish first. Holds your hand a lot and combat isn't complicated. Remaster is better since it's the international version and has the sequel, etc on it.

>>381001457
FF14 is an MMO.

I tried on four separate occasions to get into the original game, but always for bored into a coma by the time you reach Ashe for the first time. So I doubt I'll be buying a shit game again just for the HD

Zargabaath > Bergan > Drace > Ghis > massive power gap > Gabranth

>>380978220
I didn't really give a shit about XII because I was younger and fell for autist memes on the internet. I also didn't like Vaan's and Penelo's designs and assumed those were the main characters or whatever.
I put it in my backlog a few years ago, will probably buy it once the price drops.

Didn't the original game have some bullshit?
Someone told me that you can get the ultimate weapon by running around in a specific spot or something like that

>>381011136
Don't remember about the original but the IZJS version had powerful weapons that had like a .0009% chance of spawning in some areas. Then there's the whole deal with the Zodiac Spear disappearing from the game if you open certain chests.

Would this be a good entry point to the series if I've never played a FF game before?

>>381012020
Probably not. Its a drastic change from previous entries, and more appreciated if you've played FFT or Vagrant Story.

>>381012020
Not even slightly. You play FFXII when you're sick of FF and want something different with somewhat familiar lore.

>>381012020
It's pretty unique compared to some of the other ones. You could but FFX and FF7 are better if you are completely lost on FF. Maybe even World of FF.

>>381011136
In order to get the strongest spear (one of the strongest weapons overall) you had to not open chests in a few opening areas of the game. You will have to keep going back to these palces and not opening the chests for about 25-30 hours before you can even open the "correct" chest.

It was designed to sell strat guides at the time. Purposefully putting some sort of info into the game that you literally could not know unless specifically told. Luckily the internet killed that practice.

You could still get it, but like >>381011572 says, the drop rate is laughable. The devs probably laugh every time they hear someone grinded a boss that has a 1/1000 chance of spawning, then having a 1/1000 chance to have a drop, then that drop being 1/1000 of being the spear.

I'd laugh too.

>>381012020
The best entry point into any series is always the newest one.

>>380978220
Honestly, no. XV was the last straw for me. Fuck SE for releasing that half baked stillborn from development hell.

Tired of being disappointed by this company and pretending like it is going to get better.

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>>381012624
congratulations you did it

>>381012659
But what about Dissidia?

>>381013027
I don't mean to shit on something you're excited about, but not even Dissidia, I'm out. I was playing XIV last year too and don't even get me started on that casual fest.

0 trust left for SE to the point where not only do I not want to support them but it makes me mad I have in the past. I'm honestly surprised XV didn't cause a bigger shitstorm.

>>381013312
Do you think there is a way for SE to redeem themselves or just a way to look less worse ?

Didn't it come out in May?

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>Dude what if we made literally half the cast be inconsequential to the story
>Dude what if we made multiple cutscenes where the main character has no idea what's going on and just stands in the background while people who matter speak
>Dude what if we made a character who's literally just a random girl off the street with no important qualities outside of an extremely large ass
>Dude what if we made a character with an interesting and nuanced backstory and then only let the player use him in one dungeon, at the end of which he dies
>Dude what if we made a villain who has zero emotional connection to the heroes and doesn't even meet them until the last ten minutes
>Dude what if we took an established setting with a million interesting species and then only included humans and bunny humans as playable characters
>Dude what if we gave the narrator a comical Apu accent
>Dude what if we made a complicated political plot and then ruined it by turning it into standard ancient god shenanigans halfway through
>Dude what if we made a plot where the heroes have almost no impact on what happens until 95% of the way through the story, and they spend their time tromping from one ancient temple to the next
>Dude what if we took everything 100% seriously and had zero levity outside of Balthier and Cid
>Dude what if we wrote all of the dialogue to sound like a Renaissance Fair
>Dude what if we we had no overworld and all travel was handled by a menu or floating teleport crystals
>Dude what if we made a battle system where you set everything up in advance so that you don't actually play the game
>Dude what if we made a level-up system where all of the characters become literally identical in function
>Dude what if we made summons useless except for opening doors
>Dude what if we put all of the interesting and unique content in sidequests
>Dude what if instead of having fun side games like the motorcycle chase and Triple Triad we had nothing
>Dude what if we had really shitty music

>>380981472
This. No forced romance, no hypercompetent preteens. Just adults doing adult work in an adult world with kids being out of their depths being dragged along. It's amazing how Ashe is a grieving widow during the whole game and is basically avenging her dead husband. Only Final Fantasy 6 has as much depth in their story.

>>381012594
>>381011572
>the IZJS version had powerful weapons that had like a .0009% chance of spawning in some areas
I remember a video where someone is running up and down on some airship deck I think until he picked up an invisible item or something like that. It's been years so I don't remember it that well.
Did stuff just randomly spawn in some areas?

The thing with the spear is also weird. So basically you didn't open chests in the first areas and after a while you just went back and opened all of them and one of them has the spear?
They will fix shit like this, right? I mean I like mysterious shit but come one.

Also reminds me somewhat of SotC where you finally have enough stamina to get to the garden and the only thing there is a fruit that was basically a "Fuck you". That was a bit funny though

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No reason to be hyped about a game I already played BUT I will enjoy replaying it when the price goes down. Or maybe I'll just pirate the original zodiac version and emulate.

You can dual class now? Source?

>>380987576
>hardest boss

The only thing hard about him was the absurd amount of HP he had, and making sure you set your gambits right so you didn't accidentally Full Heal a party remember with reflect and thus healed the boss' entire HP bar back up.

Otherwise, he just kind of sucks.

>>381014361
Look up any zodiac age related news within the last 3 or 4 months. They kinda brush over it (aside from articles dedicated to it), but near all articles bring it up at least once.

>>380984819
>"The game balance has been overhauled to make it easier"

Ignoring walking simulators/telltale type interactive movie type stuff, FFXII is hands down the piss easiest game I have ever played. What brain dead retard thought it needed to be easier?

At the very least I'll be rewatching some cutscenes to enjoy that localized dub again.

>>381013447
I think it is just symptomatic of the whole industry at this point: the whole Wider Audience mentality.

Idk what SE could do to redeem themselves in my eyes. Even with the VII remake, it is a really big turnoff to me how it is being released in episodes. And whatever reason they give for it being in episodes, it is all just bullshit.

With XIV, I almost don't blame them for wanting to cater to the casuals paying their XIV subs every month. Not to mention they buy cash shop items like candy.

It doesn't help that as a "core gamer" or "hardcore raider" or whatever you want to label me - I am the smallest and yet hardest demographic to please because I don't give a fuck about standing around in town playing dress up and doing ERP.

>>380987576
>xii plays itself meme

You can literally play as you would a turn based game, or play frantically control everyone real time. The game gives you tools to program characters and suddenly it plays itself. If the game didn't have gambits, came out on pc and someone made a gambits mode everyone would be calling it the rpg revolution of the century.

>>381015435
this is sad because it's true

>>380978220
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBYID_624n0

>>380978220
yes, only final fantasy game I ever finished

>>380978220
PC port when?

>>381015360
Fair point, always wanting to catter to broader audiences kinda kills the base central one which will inevitaby be smaller and smaller.

>>381013447
I was a Nintendo kid who changed brands for the first time and bought a PS for FFVII and I have been a fan for almost 20 years, but it is just becoming clear to me that I'm not the "target audience" anymore.

I keep thinking how to answer your question of how SE could redeem themselves and I just don't think they can, at least in my eyes.

Maybe in 10-20 years, when we're dealing with next gen MMOs, or maybe NEXT-next gen, they'll put out an online FF with teeth again.

Ashe was my first vidya wank

>>381013682
nah fuck you
still great

>>380978220
Never played XII so I'll be sure to pick it up at some point. Busy with XIV now though.

>>381013682
>>Dude what if we made summons useless except for opening doors
Huh? explain.

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>>380978220
Can we talk about the soundtrack for a second? Fuck, the remastered tracks are good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0YjrXxhYp8

>>381013682
Just think of Vaan as the narrator and Ashe or Basch as the actual protagonist

>>380978220
Never gave it a proper shot before plus I've played every other mainline FF so why not?

Ah info on the game size?

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>>381016202

Sounds the same to me.

>>381016023
I kinda feel the same, and it's weird to sense that the whole lot of people who supported the franchise throughout the years are now "not the target anymore" for the sake of, i don't know, modernity maybe? or whatever they want to call it, and it kinda leaves a bad taste in the mouth

>>381016485
>>381016560
I can mainly hear the difference in the woodwinds, sounds clearer probably because it isn't a computer trying to simulate the sound

>>381014031
There are some monsters that will only spawn under specific conditions like don't kill anything in the zone for 5 mins, stand still for 3 mins, go to the highest elevation of the zone for 10 seconds, kill 100 of specific type of enemy, get a specific chain amount

None of it is told in game except by 1 NPC that is about hunting elusive monsters. You could play the entire game beginning to end without knowing it was a thing. No items spawn like that though.

>>381013312
>don't even get me started on that casual fest.
So you beat A12S then right?

>>381015964
I am just salty about XV and how it seems like they "got away with it" to me.

As for being marginalized, I should be used to it by now I guess. There's money to be made, integrity be damned.

>>380978220
I am because my PS2 copy was so badly scratched when I played it that it would freeze at every cutscene and I had to eject the disc to unfreeze it which would skip the cutscene so I have literally no idea what any of the story was despite playing the whole game

>>381016191
Summons are garbage in the game.

>>381016191
You need to summon Belias to open a story related Door. They call it the Gigas Door and only refer to him as that when you get him 40 hours earlier.

>>381016734
I quit around the time that raid tier came out. I have cleared most of the final raid tiers before echo, including turn 9 about 3 months into the scob cycle. I also did the most DPS in my raid and made the fewest errors.

No interest in an offline MMO

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You know, if spell buffering is removed/improved, that means every Bomb in pic related can cast spells at the same time.
Also, no more exploiting free hits on entites.

>>381016848
They're gret in a solo character run, or for a pure green mage character.

>>380978220
Got it pre-ordered, can't wait to play it again. I know the game gets hate and I totally get the criticism, but it had a charm that really clicked with me. Can't wait to dive back into it.

>>381017517
>>381017517
It also means the enemy won't hit you with a 7-hit chain before your curaja goes off.

>>380984138
>The fans praise the gameplay and that's literally all this game has going for it.

>all this book has going for it is the writing
>all this movie has going for it is the visuals, cinementography, acting and directing
>all this song has going for it is sounding good

>>381016560
I think they're just doing what they can get away with and abusing the brand recognition and clout they've generated over the years. XV being unfinished was simply a slap in the face that they expected fans to thank them for because they're the kings of JP RPGs

>>380984829
Do you weld?

>>381002417
No, basch is completely luke. Vaan was never supposed to be in the game.

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>>380987010

>>380978220
My favorite final fantasy game out of the seven or so I've played, so yes.

>>381016191
they replace the non-summoner party members, have a restricted move pool and are usually weak. They also consume limit break bars, which you would rather spent. Basically you use 2-3 out of 13 for situational gimmicks (tanking a spell, draning their mana) and ignore the rest

>>381016734
Also, you don't have to clear the current savage raid boss in order to have a valid opinion about XIV.

>>380989607
Is it bad that I know who drew this just from Basch's facial expression?

>>381017837
Vaan was meant to be in the game from very early on. Its a meme that he was added half way thru. His brother being in Basch's unit and witnessing the events of the assassination are a central part of how it went down. The fete being handled by Migelo, thus giving it a link to Penelo and Vaan is central to how they steal their way into the palace.

Yes Basch more fully IS what Luke was, but he was never hopefully optimistic the way Luke was in the OG trilogy, that goes to Vaan.

>>381018170
They were a thematic addition more than a purposeful one. There is no "summoner" style in the game. The bestiaries for the summons expand the relationship between Tactics and XII. Also in theme with Ivalice games, they were evil in Tactics but the winners in XII (while still being the Dark aligned ones), it shows that good/bad is only perceptual and that overtly good doesn't always win by sheer dint.

PC PORT WHEN

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>>380978220
YOU BET YOUR ASS MOTHERFUCKER

I WISH I WAS HUNTING SOME MARKS RIGHT NOW.

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>>381016202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roe8I-PEL1M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TexiQThE-y8

I'm ready. Think they even fixed Vaan's stupid looking abs

>>381018643
But, anon...
I thought PC was master race?

>>380982785
>that DLC

Does that mean that the option for the original OST is going to be a paid DLC? What kind of jewery is this? That shit was in game on FFX HD for PS4.

>>381014031
>They will fix shit like this, right?

The spear one was fixed. There are two in the Zodiac version. One obtained in a chest that has a 50/50 chance of appearing, but you can keep leaving and entering the area until the chest appears. The second from turning in hunt trophies at Phon Coast.

>>381016202
Just how many tracks have been changed/added? Think I saw a video of gameplay during Cerobi Steppe, and the music was completely different from the original. Like, not just touched up, but an entirely different track altogether.

>>380988906
As long as I get more quality Larsa shota doujins I'll be happy. Can't keep fapping to the same 3 masterpieces over and over until they lose their charm.

>>381018170
You can manually control Espers now in the remaster. Not sure how much better that is.

I'm really curious how the game plays now without that broken spell queuing shit. Must feel like a different game. Excited to actually play a caster in the game now instead of just ignoring magic.

Also someone else asked I think but are you still forced to use control Vaan when in towns?

>>380978220
Didn't it come out in March?

The game kinda sucks though and you can just emulate it.

>>380988851
Come on now, the textures are still shit and there's more blur in the remaster. The other things are things no one will notice, hell I don't even know what you're talking about.

>>380986164
PS2/PC versions have a save editor so you can switch jobs whenever you want. That's what I did the last time I played it.

>>381002257
I don't speak weeaboo, what is a "genki girl"?

>>381021237
equivalent to a ditzy valley girl with shades of manic pixie hair in the US.

>>381002498
I bet you favorite FF is one of the PSX ones, you fucking sonybro pleb

>>381016425
Is this a new meme?

>>381020824
I always just assumed that was meant to be a natural part of the game. So weird to find out otherwise.

>>381020824
It will just play faster obviously, retard.

And yeah you're stuck with Vaan.

>hyped
>for the FF made for people who hate FF

No, not in the slightest

15 mentions of gambit. Only 15 people ITT have played the game. Or should I say watched. Gambits are horrible.

>>381023795
If you are troglodyte yeah I could see being presented with unparalleled control over something and thinking thats a bad idea.

Go mouthbreathe in some other thread.

>>381023795
Not being able to understand that other people might have different feelings and opinions on things they experience is a sign of a mental issues.

>>380978274
Who is this?

>>380978220
First time FF player here, should I wait for this or play the original on PS2?

>>381023795
Good thing you can completely turn them off and input every single command manually if you want but you wouldn't know that since you've obviously never played the game.