Sonic Mania thread. What levels that you guys really want but

I was as many new stages as possible

>>380970929
I want more new stages.

>>380971012
>>380971203

How about something like downed Death Egg? That's pretty much a new stage, even if it is reusing a theme.

Chaos Angel

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Pick your stage.

http://www.tssznews.com/2017/06/14/sonic-mania-boss-details-leaked/

Jeff: So there’s a boss fight in there where you fuckin’ play Mean Bean Machine. Where you play Dr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine. It just– it just erupts in to that. And you’re just like, “fuckin’ WHAT?”

>>380971473
Always really liked the marble zone.

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tfw have to god damn wait to see this fucking level

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>>380970929
Bridge Zone from Sonic 1 (8-bit) & a Knuckles' Chaotix stage but have the level design have almost no resemblance to the original.

>>380971473
Out of this list:

>Sonic 1
Spring Yard or Star Light
>Sonic 2
Mystic Cave or Aquatic Ruin
>Sonic 3
Hydrocity
>Sonic & Knuckles
Lava Reef
>Sonic CD
Quartz Quadrant

>>380971567
I keep seeing this posted and it's making it so fucking tempted to read the spoiler. Thanks again for spoilering it I mean but fuck is the temptation to look killing me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IGIIOlfwZo

based tee lopes, music is god tier

>>380971642
That stage is giving me a Egg Garden vibe.

>>380970929
Spring Yard
Starlight
Mystic Cave
Hydrocity
Ice Cap
Lava Reef

Other were used in Generations and i want ones that haven't really been remixed already.

I really want Stardust Speedway to be an endgame stage with 3 acts and depending on how many Emeralds you have the third act will be a good future if you have all of them or the bad future if you don't.

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Was browsing the old thread at work. Everyone that shat on Marble Garden is a fucking pleb.

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If we don't get Starlight zone/Springyard zone with tee lopes versions of the songs, all is lost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKh-5msybk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vp5aMPAUYQ

>>380971757

Clean Chemical 2 rip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8nElbfhBGE

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Bets on peeps. People say It'll lead to Labyrinth zone, I think it is going to lead to Hydro city.

>>380972052
Marble Garden isn't amazing but I'll never understand why people dislike it as much as they do, it's a fine zone, not the best but surely not bad.

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>>380970929
Perfect timing, I just updated this.

>>380971650
Your list is perfect. I could see Spring Yard and Mystic Cave working really well.

>>380970929
I want a 2 player stage from S3&K, maybe Chrome Gadget zone

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>>380972052
It fucking sucks.

>>380972278
Labyrinth is the only one out of the two that would make any sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgThnrxI5nc

Okay so listening to CD's soundtrack again, it is a little god tier. 1:08

If we have to have to have more classic stages I want them to be ones we don't see often. I'd prefer more new stages though

>>380972353
based anon, thanks bro

>>380972461
CD jp is the best soundtrack and that's one of the best in the whole game.

>>380972278
Labyrinth was originally the second level in sonic 1, if they don't make the stage hard this time it can happen.

No love for Marble Zone?

>>380972278
It'll probably be Labyrinth but I sure as hope it isn't, Hydrocity is just so much more fun to me, Labyrinth is a bit dull.

>>380972278
Is this referring to the green hill boss?

>>380972723
yep

>>380971650
Trust me, you don't want to spoil that, I wish I restrained myself.

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>>380972278

>going to lead to Hydro city.

If it does not only they lied to us by saying that there was a reason to visit the old zones, but they are actually retconning the previous games by putting everything in the same island.

I doubt that will happen, it's going to be a new zone. It's the start of the game, they gotta show something new too after GHZ.

>>380972657
I loved it personally.

>>380972180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_VHsD2aa7s

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When your fans make a better game than you.

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>>380972854
>tee's version of this

you just know it'll be god tier

>>380972353

The "creators" look and sound like fags but, it's fucking sonic so I can't expect much from any of it. Going to pirate it anyway.

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>>380972858

>>380972936
Taxman looks (and sounds) rad, you shut your mouth.

>>380971473
Starlight zone

>>380972854
I hope we get HUEHEUEUEHEUEUEHUE

>>380972936
I'll buy an extra copy just for you, anon.

>>380973034

No self-respecting dev gives a shit if their game gets called a fan game. It's SONIC anon, it will always be autism.

>>380972657
I like how the music of that stage is upbeat but at the same time really atmospheric so you never get tired of hearing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdeU9Q8c5gY

So how is the best way of replaying the series leading up to Mania?

How easy is it to emulate the mobile ports? Never really tried that.

>>380972858
Really makes actually think about what the hell is Sonic Team thinking. Let's just wait until the review scores of both games come out and hopefully I will have something to laugh about.

>>380973356
Just play Sonic 1, 2 and 3 + S+K, CD. Ignore the rest.

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I posted this in the previous Mania thread, so I'll just say it again.

Went to E3 this year, specifically wanted to try out Mania, and in -every- piece of footage they've shown online, nobody is properly showing off how insanely good the drop dash is. That small feature changes the entire way the game is played and changes 2d sonic completely, you can just keep your momentum going and it just feels too fucking good, it's actually gotta go fast, but done properly. As I said before, just wait until the fucking speedrunners get hold of this game, it is going to be fucking majestic to watch them autism the fuck out and try to perfect routes with the drop dash. When you use it once, it's just so obvious and you have no idea why it wasn't added before, it's perfect.

also there is a option in the menu to change the filter of the screen, so you can have it normal and really colourful and bright and no youtube video shows off HOW good it looks on a 1080p screen, or you can turn this filter on which goes full nostalgia, and puts like a old school CRT filter on the game and it is GODtier

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>2 more months

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>>380973565
Slightly less than that but still.

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Daily reminder that if you want new zones, buy this game, so sega sees there is demand for it, and when they give whitehead the go ahead for Mania 2, they let him go all fucking out and we get the maddest sonic game to ever exist.

i hope the bonus stage is from Sonic 2

it was the best

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>>380973565
>No physical copy

Been replaying all the Genesis Sonic games recently. I love just how much they hold up.
S3&K is by far the best though. Waiting for Mania has been so damn hard. Only like 7/8 weeks more to go.

>>380973714
>2011
>Sonic CD remake
>allowed to include Tails as a playable character
>Taxman wanted to include a new stage and final boss (Desert Dazzle and Final Fever respectively)
>Sega said no

>2013
>Sonic 1 remake
>Sega allowed Taxman and Stealth to include Knuckles as a playable character along with Tails again+both get their own secret sections
>allowed to add a secret 7th Special Stage that lets you unlock Super Sonic

>2013
>Sonic 2 remake
>Taxman and Stealth were allowed to remake Hidden Palace with new level design, gimmicks, enemies and boss and add it to the game
>were not allowed to add Egg Gauntlet though

>now
>Sonic Mania
>brand new game and not a remake like their last few projects
>allowed to create brand new levels, but not for the entire game
>had to include returning levels but were allowed to remix them (tame act 1s and more drastically changed act 2s)

>>380973750
You just know Mania's special stage is going to be a mind fuck

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>>380973520

I figured this was the case from day one, but that's for confirming it. They have been really underselling the mechanic.

Really wish it wouldn't go away with shields though.

>>380973750
>m-muh half pipe
Go play literally every other Sonic game for that tired shit. Also that's a Special Stage, not a Bonus one.

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>>380972858
Oof, that's gotta hurt.

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>>380973750
I hope it isn't extremely bad, the half-pipe is so over done and it's a autoscroller essentially. I hope they create something brand new & original personally, also give it 3D models that look like they're from Sonic Jam or something, now that'd be sexy.

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>>380973921
>>380973921
>future
>Sonic Mania 2
>entirely new Sonic game with no old levels, all brand new levels with brand new music and bosses
>most insane bosses the franchise has ever seen
>New original character made by Whitehead, and is playable

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>>380973714

I want different old zones in Mania 2 alongside newer ones, giving a chance for less popular ones like Azure Lake and Lava Reef to shine.

I for one love the fact that they are revisiting and remixing some of my favorite levels in any video game.

>>380974359
>New original character made by Whitehead, and is playable
Please no. Now having the Chaotix, Amy or maybe even Fang would be interesting.

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Almost a year. So close.

>>380974393
I love how people keep saying that they are a rehash, when they have made Green Hill Zone act 1/2, specifically 2, glorious and added so many new routes which flesh out everything and are just amazing.

Myabe when they remaster Sonic CD's levels they can actually make them well designed CALM DOWN YOU FUCKS CD'S MUSIC IS GOD TIER BUT THE LEVEL DESIGN IS SHIT, YOU KNOW IT.

>>380974517
Still don't get why SoE isn't offering a CE for PC.

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>>380974393
>Chrome Gadget
>Balloon Park
>Endless Mine
If any of these ever get a full zone, I'll cream everywhere. Specially Chrome Gadget.

Hopefully this game is the beginning of the end for 3D Sonic, modern and boom. I really don't want to see anybody but Sonic,Tails and Knuckles ever again, no offense to Amyfags but she's just as terrible as the newer friends

Forces is doing everything wrong and I can't imagine how much worse it can get from what I've seen at E3

>>380974602
old school amy, CD one, is god tier. she has every right to join the trio.

>>380974602
modern sonic looks funish, classic sonic looks.. okay

but I honestly, have no idea what the FUCK is going on in the OC avatar gameplay, it looks like some ps2 designed shit that was thrown together in a week

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>reach endgame of Mania
>have defeated all hard boiled heavies already
>collected all the emeralds
>defeat a huge robot from eggman in one of his bases
>after he escapes, a giant ring opens next to the animal capsule, even though the way to access special stages were ala 3K
>Special Stage Zone
>contains elements from every classic game special zone in a platforming level
>[spoilermusic is the funkiest shit since Sonic CD

How hard would you be?

>>380974779
I'd love to see how they'd pull something like that off.

>>380974538

Try to go after the past machines next time you play CD and trust me, you'll appreciate it more. I used to hate it too.

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>>380972858
lol

>>380974538
>BUT THE LEVEL DESIGN IS SHIT
Nope. Better than 1's tedious shit and 2's auto coasters. I swear people would like CD more if going after the generators was actually worth anything. Sounds like you need to calm down with the caps buddy. Little apprehensive there.

>>380974659
How,anon? Take off the rose colored glasses, she's the exact same character she's always been, A useless Sonic obsessed girl. She only exists because Sega needed to be PC and try to rope in girl gamers.
>>380974738
Modern Sonic controls better but it's clear from the way the levels are designed that instead of fixing the boost heavy paths, they just threw random spikes in places to make you stop using it.

>>380974602
I want full focus to go on the 2D classic Sonic games also, Anon, but they still have a fanbase, they shouldn't just fuck them over like that. Sega better deliver on us getting more like this though. Also classic Amy is fine, she wasn't annoying like how modern Amy is and had more a cute childish charm & crush on Sonic which I felt was fine, that being said though they shouldn't ever really give her much focus.

I forgot, are we getting special stages? all of them were so fun

>>380970929
Interview with the devs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04nBdQU9rbc

>>380974602

>no offense to Amyfags but she's just as terrible as the newer friends

Amy has good gameplay though, she was really fun to play in Advance. Moreover you people screaming "MUH CHARACTERS" contributed to the problem of the modern games. There is nothing wrong with more characters, the problem is when they are intrusive and play like shit. For example. Big was terrible but Blaze was fine.

Full realized Azure Lake please. Need more of those remixes in my life.

>>380971292
I'd be ok with that.

>>380975189
Yes we are. They just aren't revealing them at all until they actually release it and people find out themselves.
A lot of stuff is gonna be like that according to them.

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>>380975189
Yes we are, but we don't know what they are yet, all we know is that they aren't Blue Spheres again and you'll find them hidden in Special Stage rings ala Sonic 3 & Knuckles (look at the webm for an example) and read >>380972353

>>380975189
We're getting both Special and Bonus stages.

>>380975170
>Amy is fine, she wasn't annoying like how modern Amy is and had more a cute childish charm & crush on Sonic which I felt was fine, that being said though they shouldn't ever really give her much focus.
So basically because classic amy is your waifu you ignore everything else, fuck off. Being from the old era doesn't excuse how useless she was, she doesn't deserve to continue existing in actually good sonic games, people like you are a cancer on this fanbase. Go to Forces if you want your shitty waifu, the rest of us will be here playing actually good sonic games for once.

>>380975358
please tell me we're at least getting the half pipe and rotating ones.

>>380975501
No one knows except the devs.

>>380975283
>There is nothing wrong with more characters, the problem is when they are intrusive and play like shit. For example. Big was terrible but Blaze was fine.
rong. Just so terribly wrong.

>>380975535
(You)

>>380975428

I can't believe how hard you twisted that post to support your shitty argument.

>>380975428
Amy was fine until she was given a voice.

>>380975636
There was nothing wrong with Blaze, m8.

>>380970929
I've always wished somebody made a level based on some of the Sonic Spinball Zones.

>>380975636

How so?

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>>380975428
Calm the fuck down, Anon, I just said she wasn't bad & was cute. She seriously isn't an issue in the older games, you know how she wasn't? Because she was barely there & was generally silent besides from a quick yelp in Collision Chaos. She's not obnoxious in CD since she's only there with slight visual story telling and in games like Sonic the Fighters, Sonic R and Sonic Drift 2 she was just there being fine & completely harmless. She wasn't being obnoxious & being the worst possible thing like you're making her out to be. It doesn't matter that much to me, it isn't vital for her to stay to me but I wouldn't be against her inclusion either.

>>380975652
>>380975715
>>380975717
Fucking waifufags
>>380975778
What part of "She's useless" do you not understand? She's not a contributor, she's not capable of fighting Eggman, she doesn't have a massive fanbase, she has no place here
>>380975854
Once again, you ignore logic for your penis, shut up,anon.

>>380975993
Not an argument.

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>>380975993

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>>380975993

I really want to call this bait but I know very well that autistics like you are part of this fanbase.

>>380975993
Not even a waifufaggot, she was fine in all the mid-90's spin offs.

>>380976126
Okay, you want an argument,here's you're argument, Amy is not Sonic's sidekick, she's not his rival, she has NO reason to be playable, her old self was protrayed as not capable of taking on Eggman's robots, her old self was never protrayed as being fast on foot either, she had a fucking car and finally, her entire existence is Sonic be mine!, That's not a good character nor one people actually give a shit about.

>>380976350
I was talking about Blaze, not Amy.

>>380975283
Pretty much this. I loved how Amy played in Advance.

>>380976350

Meanwhile Knuckles entire character was "wait a minute.... Eggman was behind it all???"

No one gives a fuck, especially classicfags. What matters is what they can do gameplay wise which Amy has already shown potential in the Advance series.

>>380976294
No she really wasn't she barely existed in the 90s and most people didn't know who she was until Adventures shoved her into our faces along with a horde of stupid shit like Big and Tikal, Anyone who wants Amy back is nothing but a fucking waifufag whose better off watching fucking Boom or playing Forces. Stay the fuck away from Mania and everything about it. You're no better than people who want the freedom fighters because of them being in spinball or people who want Sonia and Manic or Scratch and Grounder.

>>380976572
>Amy is on the same level as the shit comic and cartoon characters
Wew talk about delusional.

>>380976572
I never said I wanted playable Amy, I'm just saying she was ok, nothing to get really worked up about, but you keep talking about adventure so I guess I'm just going to stop replying to you.

>>380976879
Good, your ignorance is extremely irratating, Amy is a shit character and I'll be happy knowing that Taxman only likes S/T/K and will never accept Sega's retarded ass demands on adding anybody but them to the classic games I really, really wish all modernfags and characterfags wouldn't exist anymore after Forces bombs and hopefully Inzuka's fired. The franchise is finally going to be respected again and I'll be damned if waifufags like you are going to ruin it.

>>380970929

>Egg Rocket

Got you covered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OilBAKCgaMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4qvKk7vvIY

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>>380977037

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>a little girl who idolises her hero/precocious crush and sets out to improve her skills to help him out if need be
Why does she trigger you so much, anon? Do you get pissed off at Tails, too?

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>>380977030

Your fixation in your bogeyman "waifufags" is so embarrassing.

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Oh shit, Amy's Mania sprite leaked.

>>380977263
Because the cast is already bloated enough as it is! We don't need Amy, just like any other bitch she's there for someone's penis.
>>380977307
Shut up pokefag, I especially don't want to hear that from one such as you, I've seen that board of yours

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>>380977030
Are you like our Unleashedfag or Adventurefag for Classic Sonic threads?

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FUCK this doesn't have animated cutscenes? That's a bitch, oh well

>>380977635
There's that one guy that acts like a completely jaded, cynical person that sounds like he wants to kill himself and bring everyone with him. He's fun.

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>>380977652
I'm not that bothered by it, this just means the flow of the game will quick & fine, although we could still get an animated intro/credits which is what I'm hoping for.

>>380977492

What the hell is going on with her waist area

Looks like she's got a massive undulating dong, or maybe just a horrible case of cancer. Whoever made her skirt the same colour as her arms made a big mistake.

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>>380977635
>>380977723

>>380977831
Hey genius, it's just a shitty waifufags horrible edited Sonic model.

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>>380977896
>edited Sonic model

>>380971473
for some reason I always liked hill top zone as a kid. The props and background made me feel like I was right at home.

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Which do you prefer, Mania Sprite or this fan made one, based more on the pre order trailer animation

>>380976350
>NEVER played as the Sonic & Amy team in advance 3

Nigger you don't even know how OP it was, it was better then super sonic.

>>380978156
Hmm, I dunno. I can't choose.

>>380977030
>m-muh waifufags
no. I just like her gameplay and mechanics, maybe you're just projecting a bit too much there.

>>380978156
The real one. Look at the left's twig legs. Real amateur shit.

>>380978156

Mania sprite.

>>380978156
The fan made one has some nice style to it but prefer the actual one more, if this ever gets modded to be in the actual game I'd probably use it on my second run through the game.

>>380977850
That guy is either going to kill himself or kill himself or go on a shooting spree.

>>380978156
there is no reason that mania sprite cant turn into that fan made sprite, if that makes sense

they should have a idle animation including both of these, as in sonic maybe turning his head a little, to turn into the other sprite

>>380978156
Mania sprite has no mouth so that one.

>>380971473
I really liked Aquatic Ruin and Hill Top in S2.

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>Not looking towards the superior retro-platformer instead.

>>380978414
>modded
I hope this becomes a thing for sonic mania

>>380978156
Someone will mod the left one into the game probably.

>>380978478
It looks like generic Unity platformer shit, but ironically it'll probably end up being the best Bubsy game.
I'm actually thinking about buying it.

>>380978478
>le post-ironic video games
At least Crash did both 3D and 2D right

>>380978436
>going to kill himself or kill himself
Wonder which one, he'll chose.

>>380978582

I'm buying it anyway.

As well as hoping it leading to other forgotten D-List vidya franchises getting revived for shits and giggles

Implying you wouldn't lose your shit if we got a tee lopes version of Megalovania as the final boss music for Mania.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoqR9Bwx1Y

>>380978741
That doesn't make any sense but okay.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB9RP2SV8HY

2:50

Watch Knuckles, runs away a little, boss paintings eyes follow him. Knux turns around, looks up at the painting, painting closes it's eyes

it's the small things

>>380978741
That would be pretty epic my dude

>>380978668
Probably the one where he takes a bunch of people with him.

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>>380978929

This is confusing to me. Studiopolis Hard Boiled Badnik was clearly the midboss so why is this one the stage boss? I mean they wouldn't be teasing him in Act2 if he wasn't.

>>380978582

At least it doesn't look like the same games but with shit tossed in.

>>380979127
Because the boss for Saloon, well, it leaked what it is. Would you like to know?

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>>380978929
Here, have a webm of that since I've seen it mentioned a few times now.

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>>380978929
This game looks so fucking good. I am beyond hype.

>>380978929
That's cute

>>380979207
based anon

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>>380970929
techno tower or speed slider

>>380979202

Nah, I'm good.

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>>380978929
>That menu design
Wet.

>>380979249
and yet there are morons out there who want more characters in it. Thank God, Taxman and crew know who the real fans are

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>>380978929
>that Saturn as fuck boss theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSdCTS4QTNQ

>>380971473
Marble Zone, Casino Night, and Mystic Cave. Just for the music alone

>>380978929
>that saloon music

Dear god imagine the other new zones music

feels so good to be excited to not just want to play the game, but also feel excited to hear the music like your fav artist is about to drop a new album or some shit

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>>380972278
>the whole is just a set up holy shit taxman slow the fuck down this is just Green Hill Zone

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>>380979349
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles is all there ever needs to be. Especially in this style of Sonic game.
If people want more characters they can just be excited for Forces, which form the footage shown at E3, the excess characters never shut the fuck up which really ruined quite a bit of hype I had for Forces.

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>>380979378

I don't really like it to be honest. S2/3 bosses had presence, this sounds like a midboss. Reminds me of CD but CD's boss was fucking fucky so it gets a pass.

>>380970929
I was impressed by the in game cutscenes in New Doomsday at e3. Kinda wish they had more money for proper sonic cd style animations.

>>380977850
>nuJack
>good

>>380979432
This, soundtrack is really one of the reasons to be excited about any Sonic game, haven't even listened to any of the leaked tracks because I need muh atmosphere of the stage and everything when I first experience those tracks, it did wonders when I first played Sonic CD.

>>380973565
Hang in there Squilliam

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>>380972594
>>380972686
>>380979615

Hahaha silly anons.

The true reveal is that every zone actually has 3 acts[/spoilers]

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>>380979819
Yes.

>>380979836
No tracks from Mania leaked.

>>380979904
such garbage. At least it's over.

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>>380979889

>>380979889
That would be the tits.

>>380979971
I can't wait to hear Studiopolis Act 2 and Mirage Saloon Act 1.

>>380980075
Green Hill act 2 is transcended god tier, it is palm tree cd style mixed with heavy atmosphere and comfiness

tee always delivers

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YFW We get a remastered level

From a Adventure game, but in 2d.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6NaZrPQGfY

tee lopes version

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You know, one thing I'm little excited about in Mania is screwing around in the debug mode again in a new classic game, like I bet it'll be there since the Taxman remakes for Sonic 1, 2 & CD had them again. I used to do that shit all the time as a kid, it was pretty fun to mess with.

>Preordering collectors edition from amazon
>Dont have prime
>Dont know if I should wait a week or just pay for 2 day shipping
I dont know if I'd be able to wait a week to play this after it comes out.

>>380980528
preorder collecters edition

buy it off steam as soon as it comes out, give the code version to a friend

share the mania

>>380980528
Well aren't you in a pickle. Pre-ordering it on Steam is the quickest and easiest way to play it on release day.

>>380980647
You cant preorder the collectors edition on steam.

>>380980391
>Adventure 2
>City Escape at that
>Not anything from the far superior Adventure 1

>>380980792
>superior Adventue 1
Patrician taste

>>380979349

I really don't see how Amy would be bad at all. She's even a hedgehog.

>>380979639
Why would you have hype in the first place after seeing Classic Sonic again in the announcement trailer, then seeing his horrible spring hill level and finally Buddy?

12 levels. Will there be less or more?

The one zone I really wanted that had a pretty shaky chance of getting in was flying battery, and it made the cut.
So I'm satisfied.

>>380981136
Around 5/6 new zones
Around 6/7 old zones
What I'm guessing.

>>380978929
What's the blue ring pickup that Tails got about?

>>380982079
If you get hit, it condenses all of your rings into one.

>>380982079
The next hit you take, your rings become giant with about 8 rings in each one.

>>380982079
Power-up from Chaotix. When you get hit after you get it, instead of a bunch of rings it's a small amount of huge rings.

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>Adventure/modern and contrarian fags reaction to this game

>>380982280
Someone always needs to complain

>>380982280
more like
>/v/ sees a good game

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>>380982280
>Adventure/modern/classic fag reaction to this game and Forces

>>380978929
This looks fun as fuck!
I'm still wary because, you know, the sonic cycle and all. But this looks smooth and pretty good. I'll be keeping an eye out.

>>380983094
The Sonic Cycle hasn't been a thing in years, anon.

>>380983094
You can trust the taxman anon.

>>380981136
More.

>>380982079
Combi-Ring from Knuckles' Chaotix.

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>>380982773
>classic fag reaction to Forces

>>380983223
how so?
Did Generations break it? Because It's been an avalanche of shit and one gem every now and then.

>>380983720
People accepted years ago that Colors broke it.

>>380983720

The Sonic Cycle only applied to Unleashed.

>Colors and Generations looked good/acceptable from the start
>LW always had mixed reception
>nobody cared about RoL
>people have been tearing Forces a new one since the reveal which will probably create the bizarro Sonic Cycle since the game more than likely be decent

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>>380983094
The cycle does not apply here.

The Sonic cycle only applies when SEGA make the game. Sonic Mania is not made by Sonic Team. It is made by people who have shown they know Sonic better than the creators themselves.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRs1BqezP-I

obligatory Sega regret post

>>380984780
Those physics, mmhmhmhmhmmmmmhmhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmhmhmhmmm just release the fucking game

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>>380984824

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>>380983707
>>380982280
>tfw I like both classic and adventure and am looking forward to both
>tfw grew up with both as a kid and have nostalgia for both too

>>380985167
>>tfw grew up with both as a kid
So did I but why the fuck should I accept this half assed mediocrity such as Sonic 4, """Classic""" Sonic in Generations and Forces?

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>>380985167
me too
>>380985365
classic in Generations was fine. It wasn't even close to being the Genesis titles at all, but it was fine enough in a vacuum. It wasn't as bad as Sonic 4.

but playing as classic in Forces is honestly the least interesting thing to me about Forces.

>>380985120
Where's the CD button?

>>380985720
Where would you even put that?

>>380986140
I always assumed it was between 1 and 2 just cause of the lack of Tails

>>380985565
>classic in Generations was fine.
It missed the entire point of the classic gameplay, so no it wasn't "fine" or anything close to okay. And not being as bad as Sonic 4 is not saying much of anything at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R16IBC_kD5o&index=2&list

>>380986140
Sonic CD is literally just Sonic 2 (JPN). It's the "Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels" of the Sonic series.

So it's side by side with 2. If you have to put them into an order, 3K is right after 2 with nothing between, so CD belongs between 1 and 2.

>>380986418
I mean fine as its own thing. I'd play classic Sonic in Generations before any Dimps game aside from Advance 1, even if it's inferior to Genesis.

I thought Classic Sonic in Generations was fine for what it was. After Sonic 4, it was a step in the right direction. Hell, I'd even say that in hindsight Sonic 4 was ultimately a messy step in the right direction.

Forces is where it gets stupid. It was in development before Mania, so we know that they weren't planning to take it even further in the right direction (fixing physics, level design, adding Tails and Knuckles, etc).

Good thing Mania came along to pick up the slack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntxff2TTsJk

We are going to get atleast a intro animated cutscene/ending cutscene in Mania, right?

>>380987391
Mania might be the slap in the face wake up call they need. I honestly wonder how baffled Iizuka is about how Mania has completely stolen Forces thunder.

>>380987490
I think Sonic 06 really represents the slap that they needed. Remember, after that, the cast was reduced, and 2D gameplay was reintroduced. And it only got more and more classic-y from there, with an actual explicitly-named followup to Sonic 3K. Then Classic Sonic's design returns. And then we get Mania.

Sonic 06 is underappreciated. Still horribly shit, and has become a meme, but still underappreciated for the eventual positive effect it had on the series.

Supposed leaker said Sega are going to remaster SA1/2 for next gen consoles after Forces, as they want to get into a steady flow of platforming again so they actually know what the fuck they're doing. After those, SA3 will come, they want to do it, always have, they're just scared themselves they will fuck it up.

>>380987829
This, it's like Trump, he's going to completely destroy America but once he's out in 8 years people will be paying much more attention, they'll finally get good government officials and corruption will finally be curbed to benefit then rather than hurt them. Evil exists so that Good can triumphantly return

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>>380987490

When this is the best you can come up with in a 3D Sonic game can you really blame people? Bare in mind this entire segment is actually more substantive than fucking Modern Sonic's portion of Park Avenue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JwnP9eFo-c

>>380985120
>Sonic CD or Knuckles Chaotix aren't canon either

>>380970929
MUSIC PLANT
U
S
I
C

P
L
A
N
T

>>380988309
I'll be shocked if Trump lasts 8 years. He may not even make it the full 4. But I get your point.

>>380988324
Sonic Generations, much like Batman Arkham series did with combat, destroyed the respective genre, holy fuck. When will people learn that 3d boosting down paths isn't fun? Generations/Unleashed did it, it was there gimmick, and it was FUN and worked, but if you just keep doing it, it has no stay, they need to change this shit up

I hope it's heavier on the original stages than the classic/ reworked ones. I'm not particularly hopeful, though.

For me, S3&K will always be the apex of the series. I've always hated CD. To this day, I'm still not really sure why people laud it so much.

I wouldn't mind an Ice Cap/ Launch Base throwback.

>>380988950
people laud cd because of the animations at the start and the aesthetic and music is god tier, the game design/game feel, isn't that good, at all.

>>380971473
>green hill
>chemical plant
>oil ocean
>hydrocity
>flying battery
>lava reef
>stardust speedway
>metallic madness

>>380988950
>To this day, I'm still not really sure why people laud it so much.
The aesthetics, music and time travel mechanic. As others pointed out earlier, CD's level design is focused more on exploration due to the robot generator mechanic, as well as the tweaked level designs in the different time zones. Think a more back track friendly Sonic 1.

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>>380971473
Green is confirmed.
Red is disconfirmed via tropes being used already.
Blue is what I want.
Orange is definitely not getting a full Zone remake.

>>380973356
Play them in order with CD at the end (CD sucks though.)
The advance games are worth checking out, though 2 and 3 have some issues you may not like.

>>380973356
1, CD (destroy all of the generators so you get the level design instead of being a memeing shitter), 2, 3K.

>CD sucks
Bad bait

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I want to be alive before August 15. I'm worried i won't make it anons.

>>380990915
Just running through the levels it's fine, however for completionists it's a different story

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>mfw I have been waiting literally 23 years for this

>>380988950
>>380989073
CD has the best platforming in the classic series and it shows when you go for the generators.
>game feel
Why even bother posting?

>>380991302
I absolutely love CD and I'd say it's the other way around. My first few times playing it when I'd just run through the levels I hated it.

>>380991845
I guarantee you're Euro.

>>380991992
Nope. Full blooded American. Maybe don't use subhuman terms like "game feel" next time? It's absolutely idiotic considering Sonic "feels" the fucking same outside of the spindash which Whitehead even fixed in his version.

>>380978929
it's funny how they lose the rings on purpose right before a check point to avoid spoiling anything

>>380992216
Not even the guy you were arguing with, yuropean

>>380973356
Play Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic 3 & Knuckles, and Sonic Advance 1.

You can play Sonic CD if you want to but the level design is not that good.

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>>380991196
please make it, Anon. You deserve this game. We all do..

>>380992890
I'll hold on, I promise. I waited for this for 14 years

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>>380971473
My ideal selection would be
Star Light
Hill Top
Hydrocity
Flying Battery
I guess I'm ok with FBZ being in if only because I don't really like any of those levels much. Ideally I would pick Sandopolis but one of the new levels looks very similar to it anyway so thats fine

>>380993362
Metropolis for the the music

>>380991196
What ails you anon?

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>>380988324
>OC's Park Avenue is way longer than Modern Sonic's
Yeah, that's a great sign.

>>380993638
I'm not in a death warrant, Aside from my terrible asthma and the recent forest fires already throwing me to the hospital.

>>380991196
>pain in the back of my head, thinking I might be dying
>first thought
>I won't get to play Mania

I think in a way, I deserve to die..?

>>380993840
You better have insurance, because I'm not wasting my tax dollars on you

>>380993838
The game is mostly going to be avatar focused, I have no doubt about that. I love the song in Modern Sonic Park Avenue at least, but the vocal ones for the avatar, both in Green Hill and Park Avenue sound...not good.

>>380988324
>the level is mostly 2D
It's gonna be like Colours again isnt it?

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>>380970929
This is where it all started:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJa-4tMqVNc

>>380994002
Guess i'll die.

>>380994080
They're trying too hard to be Sonic R, they sound anime as fuck with cheesy lyrics, the green hill one has it about the rookie doing anything, the park one has it about the rookie doling out justice, I don't like it one bit

>>380991845
>CD has the best platforming in the classic series and it shows when you go for the generators.
no it really doesnt. The levels are a mess whether you're going for exploration or not.

why are the classic 2D Sonic games so damn great?

>>380971757
Man, this guy playing is so bad at Sonic. Great version of Green Hill tho.

I think 3D Sonics should just be a different type of game altogether. Like a free roam open world game built on being able run fast and jump high. Or a racing game. From what I have seen these 3D Sonic games try to be a mix of everything and thus doing nothing right.

>>380994395
I mean the best comparison we have is 3&K which I don't think is better at all. Most of the stages are outright boring.

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>>380972205
>that little hint of Metallic Madness
fantastic

>>380972052
I only dislike the boss as Tails really

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fuck labyrinth zone that place is a fucking boring piece>>380995084
of shit in sonic 1

>>380971473
Marble Zone
Hill Top Zone
Icecap Zone
Sky Sanctuary Zone

There are too many good ones.

>>380990585
Marble Zone's bat enemies are in Green Hill act 2.

https://youtu.be/2IGIIOlfwZo?t=1m55s

>>380994395
If you suck dick at video games, maybe.

If they surprise us and give us levels from the Advance and Rush games, what kind of levels would you want?

>>380997646
I'm not sure if enemies should count, since enemies have been shared between Zones in the past, while stage specific gimmicks really haven't been.

>>380997882
You say that like CD isn't insultingly easy.

>>380997997
Nothing because fuck those games and fuck the people who liked them, they can do die for all I care

>>380997997
see
>>380988475

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>this whole thread
>tfw talked with Slingerland in an irc chat at SAGE back in 09

>>380997997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Nq-7QfSSM

this x dea

>>380998809
*death egg

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Fuck all this, /ourguy/ is back with his hottest new video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAyDGWOooas

>>380971642
what is this?

>>380971650
Those are literally all on my wish list. Did I just find someone with the best level taste ever?

>>380999798
Taxman knows the superior Knuckles sprite is the Chaotix one. Hell yeah.

>>380999798
Still don't understand why Mania sprite is light blue

>>381000332
SONIC
ISN'T
LIGHT
BLUE

>>381000332
Sega made classic sanic lighter in Generations for whatever reason and I guess that's his official colour from now on.

>>381000332
Because Taxman has good color taste

>>380999798
FIX
TAILS
A
I
L
S

>>380998943
>Toei Sonic not even on the list
What a fucking hack fraud.

>>380999798
>sonic 3D Tails

please god kill me I have lived far too long

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I WANT FUCKING SONIC MANIA ON FUCKING VITA
please Sega, it's all i want

>>381001296
you might as well you say you want it on the zeebo

>>380998943
> no one hast he right to touch you if you dont want them too
HOLY SHIT WTF IS WITH THAT CARTOON

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>>380972858
Sonic Forces was not made to be a good game. It was made to make money off autists.

>>381001524
I watched that cartoon as a kid. I used to always rent it from the VHS store. It's fucking unbelievable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZhM2m_dYBA

>>381001761
sonic sez is perfect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqVRCUBPc4E

>>381001910
>that zoom-in at the end as he says "just remember"

are you fucking threatening me sonic

>>380970929
>What levels that you guys really want but absolutely won't make the cut?

Hydrocity or Ice Cap.

>>381002130
Exactly those two.

>>381002130
Hydrocity, you're in luck anon

>>380971567
So are they gonna remix that god-tier vs theme?

>>380999307
Leaked new level.

>>381003398
I still don't understand this. Is it because of the leaked screenshot?

>>381003809
The guy who leaked the screenshot also leaked the returning Zones. Hydrocity was one of them.

>>381003685
course, teelopes will be all over that shit

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>>380979207

>They fixed Knuckle's retarded hand gesture during the walk animation

>>381004007
Source.

>>380998707
>Slingerland
Speaking of which, turns out that he's a level designer for Mania. I only found out a few days ago.

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>>380978929
>knuckles goes through a bossfight-looking arena
>no boss appears
does this mean we're going to get another Sonic-Knuckles fight?
I mean, isn't this the same thing as the Hidden Palace zone when you play as knuckles? you run through the arena but nothing's there? Am I remembering this correctly?

>>381004393

They probably just aren't showing the boss yet

>>381004393
They just are not showing the boss, however, I know from a leak what that boss is, and it is too good to spoil.

>>381004393
They took out the boss from the demo build to avoid spoiling it, Tails doesn't have a boss there either. Same thing happened with the Studiopolis act 1 boss and Green Hill act 2's music from older demo builds.

>>381004007
What guy and what screenshots? This keeps getting thrown around in these threads and no one has posted shit.

>>381004978

No one is ever going to post it because it didn't happen

>>381005315
Yeah looking around the only leaks I can find are the mean bean machine that Jeff fucked up on and that screen of the new zone from that event.

They're talking about that one Castlevania looking screenshot.

>>380988370
Chaotix was never canon. Even Yuji Naka back when he was with Sega said Chaotix were reinvented entirely for Heroes

>>381005885

Why would that guy know anything? That was a photograph of a booth from some licensing company. They wouldn't have a list of information about all the details of the game other than any marketing materials SEGA provided them.

I'm calling horse shit.

>>381001296
Just wait two years while playing Undertale.

>>381006508
Plus it looks nothing like Hydrocity. It's just one guy that keeps talking shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIgOcFIo0kE daily reminder that the artist who made this made the offical sonic comic megadrive and is doing the animations for sonic mania that you see in the preorder trailer

dedicating your life to a meme has benefits

>>380998943
>says all the sonic boom games are shit
>hasn't watch the sonic boom TV show
into the trash

>>381006508
Hey, I'm just relaying. I'm not saying he was telling the truth.

>>381006896
>hasn't watched Boom cause no time
>rewatched all of Underground

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>>381007476
Exactly.

>>381004860
If you're talking about what I think you are, that's actually the boss for Chemical Plant Act 2

>>381007829
Not him, but I think he meant another Hard Boiled Heavy, not the Mean Bean Machine boss.

>>380998943
These rankings are fucked.