>the video game voice actor strike is STILL ongoing

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>>380964228
>video game voice actors

>No more Ashly Burch
>No more overused meme VAs instructed to use their most generic voice

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If only they found no replacement and were forced to outsource voice acting to Japan.

>>380964228
I didn't notice

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>mfw

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>english VA
who cares

>>380964537
googled Ashly Burch.
article from kotaku titled "Ashly Burch 'Heartbroken' She Won't Play Chloe In Life Is Strange" came up.
like it's not the devs fault the VA's are on strike. just get off your ass if you wanna do the job.

Are there actually any good english gaming VA? I know only some japanese ones, like Miyuki Sawashiro.

>>380964758
Nolan North when he's not doing his Nolan North voice

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>>380964228
>mfw they outsource to Australia and we get god-tier aussie VAs

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>>380964852
>Golden age of english voice acting is nearly upon us

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>mfw they outsource to India like they did Customer Call centers and we get pajeets everywhere.

>>380964852
>>380965049
We're already getting fresh talent, for better or worse. I wonder if they were lying in wait prior to this doing fan requested voice work or some shit.

Somebody call Metzen.

>>380964758
That dude who does Batman in everything (Conroy?) is pretty fucking good

>>380964852
Does Australia even have an acting industry? They already outsource at lot to Britain.

>>380964537
>No more overused meme VAs instructed to use their most generic voice

Who is Bang Zoom
The people who did the God Eater Burst (psp), Danganronpa, Atelier, Neptunia, Mugen Souls dubs.

might get shit from this but, movie actors are also a good choice for VA's in gaming industry

>>380964228
>talk into microphone
>get paid
>still complain
wew. What a bunch of fucking pussies

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>>380964758
That guy that did Sgt. Johnson
Keith David
Ron Perlman

Well if there was any debate in whether DW9 will be Japanese voices only.

>>380965482
Why don't you do it then, faggot.
People like you are the reason why they're on strike in the first place.

Also:
>part of the reason for the strike is poor workingconditions that don't allow the actors to get a feel for their character before they record
>"lol they should do a better job if they want better pay"

You're all a bunch of pieces of shits.

>>380966149
Hey Ashley hows "going against the system" working out for ya :^)

>>380966149
>lol they should do a better job if they want better pay
They should, maybe if they did some research about their character and put some actual effort in I'd be more inclined to agree with them. But as it stands right now they can all fuck off.

>>380966339
You're not smart or funny.

>>380966149
The only reason they're still on strike is because companies refuse to pay them residuals. They accepted every other condition, but not that one and of course union refuses to compromise because they only want money.

>>380966503
>they should do research about information their employers refuse to divulge to them
yeah ok

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>>380966512
Yet you were this butthurt to reply even though you could of ignore it, but you didn't

>>380965334

I'd kinda prefer it if AAA development went for big-name actors more, just for the sheer amount of variety you get once you look beyond the half-dozen regulars for video game VA.

>>380966589
Play through Drakengard 3 in both Japanese and English dub. Even when voice actors CAN do actual research on their characters they put zero effort in. These faggots are worth jack shit as it currently stands

>>380966149
Even though they complied to everything except the roalities offer which I don't don't blame since they're asking for to much as is

>>380966149
Cos I have a real job

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So how come US VA's can't compete with JP VA's?

>>380966826
Because voice acting in Japan is a well renowned industry instead of US voice acting which are just random Californians they grab off the street.

>>380964758
Matt Mercer is a bro.
Steve Blum, even though he always plays Steve Blum.
The LoK voice cast.

Has it even effected anything? All the recent games still seem to have all the regular VAs in them

>>380966738
That's the fault of the localization and voice director, not the actors

>>380964758
That guy that did Weiss in NieR

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>>380964852
Greatness is now coming to gaming.

>>380964758
Xander Mobus
Matt Mercer
Vic Mignoga
Nolan North

>>380966149
Bullshit. Like any union they want more pay than they are actually worth to the company. It's a fucking cushy job where they have to work in environmentally stable conditions and read a fucking script.

Fuck'em, and fuck their stupid rules where they get paid exponentially more each time they reprise a role.

>>380967069
>Nolan North
>good

I think voice acting has ruined a lot of games, but you people who say Japanese voices are better are fucking delusional. Stop sucking Japanese dick.

why dont the devs just do their own voice acting?
fucking looking glass used their own team members in 2 of their games (system shock 1 and terra nova) and it turnt out aw'right

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>>380966149
>poor working conditions
>don't allow the actors to get a feel for their character

>>380967042
>I-It's not the voice actors fault they're not acting properly!
Fuck off.

>>380967030

They handed Xenoblade 2 back to NOE, who seemed totally unprepared for it if that awful E3 trailer dub was any indication.

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>>380964228

Good, I'm fucking tired of hearing Blood, North and Bailey in every fucking game.

I hope the scabs are good enough to put those striking assholes out of a job.

>>380964852
Imagine if they outsourced it India

>>380966149
if you have enough money to go on strike, you don't need to go on strike

get back to me when you are living paycheck to paycheck

>non-english VA
>can't distinguish tone of voice between pleading, annoyed, whimsical, interrogative, amiable, furious, or even between a fucking question or a statement

Every single time.
At least japs can toggle between "thisisthefinalbattlekuso", "plsforgivemeI'mpathetic", and bored.
So props to them, I guess.

Is english the only language with proper, expressive intonations of what?

>>380967265
This. Fuck rich people.

>>380964228
>tfw most publishers have found new voice actors and moved on

>>380967239
Pretty sure North isn't striking

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>>380967272
>Is english the only language with proper, expressive intonations of what?

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>>380967106
>I've only played Uncharted
Nigga has range. And even then his Drake voice is good, just overused
>Get Uncharted and PoP 2008 with my PS3
>Play Uncharted for a while
>Swap to PoP
>mfw both main characters have the same voice

>>380967272
its like you only fully understand subtle tones in speech if its your mother language

>>380964659
I fully endorse western video games only using Japanese dubbing and English subtitles

>>380966149
>poor working conditions
>air conditioned office/studio
>paid to read off a script
I doubt recording and possible re-recording would take more than a month. why should these babies get paid a a year of wages for doing their voice, and then have the audacity to demand more after the fact?

>The most important thing for voicework is the sound studio
>Even "big name" VAs will sound like shit without the proper equipment & a soundproof room with just the right amount of echo
>The first defense for their greed, every fucking time is "well let's see YOU do it!"

We can't, you faggots. You're blocking everyone else from having access, and that's the fucking problem.

Why don't more games do what FFXII did and use English Theatre actors? Cheap and versatile.

>>380967272
Back then I for some reason had both Eng and Jpn versions of DW5.
The difference there was astounding.
People who died in the Jpn one actually sounded like they were dying, whilst in the Eng version it mostly a bemused "ah! Beaten by a lowly warrior?!"
And when Gan Ning killed Ling Cao, Ling Tong sounded legitimately pissed whilst in the English version it was a half hearted, "father! Gan Ning you will pay!" Without any tone of anger or rage.

Admitting though the Eng cast in the series has been much better (getting the actual names pronounced correctly was a good start)

>>380967106
He voices 10 different characters in Dota 2. None of them have the Drake voice and none of them sound similair

>>380967662
I was surprised by how good the voice acting was in the soul series and ended up being even more surprised when I found out a lot of them are stage actors.

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>>380964228
>female in vidya/anime dub
>it's Amy Rose
>male in vidya/anime dub
>it's Brock from Pokemon
They should stay on strike indefinitely.

I wish it continues forever and we finally get japanese dub with subs as the only format to play video games.

>>380964758
Xenoblade Chronicles.

>voice actors don't need a union or better working conditions because they don't work in a literal coal mine

You guys are retarded as hell.

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>>380967970
you got a problem with that, m8?

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>he thinks voice acting for video games is a "profession"

CLUCK LIKE A CHICKEN

>>380967767
Psycho Mantis is the best leader of the Yellow Turbans.

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>>380964228

>>380967265
maybe you should work a job that isn't shit then
these people are trying to improve their pay and working conditions
you're sitting at your computer complaining that they shouldn't be complaining because their job isn't as shitty as yours

>>380964228
Seriously, vidya VAs are forgettable as fuck. I can't name even single game with voice acting being a selling point. Hell, I didn't even notice there is some sort of strike.

Also it's interesting how these people act like they are some sort of artists while they are - at best - craftsmen.

>>380967249
I actually think Indian-English is one of the more pretty sounding English accents. Very soft and flowing, particularly with females.

>>380968179
How is it any less of a profession than performing music for video games?

>>380966149
>You're all a bunch of pieces of shits.
No, no. I think that is anyone deserves residuals it's not VAs. They have been spoiled by a precedent in the movie and television industries that is frankly ridiculous in those industries as well. I've never understood why VAs and actors think they are the only one who deserve residuals. Programmers, animators, etc. are just as if not more important. Why shouldn't they get residuals too?

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>>380968373
>voice acting
>profession

>>380968373
Music is more important than voice acting in vidya.

>>380968384
Why don't they unionize and do something about it then?

>>380968480
>Unions

>>380968456
What, is there a universal standard or something?

>>380968480
Because 40 years of corporate propaganda says unions are bad.

>>380968480
the way I see it, unions are there to "protect" the unskilled workforce. programmers and animators don't have to worry about that. which is why they're also more entitled to residuals than vas

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>when you go on strike but you realise you have no power and nobody cares

>>380968568
they are though

>>380968549
Yes, what about them?

>>380968591
So why don't they go on strike if their skills are more valuable than VAs?

>>380968480
That's not an answer just like how when these VAs did an AMA they dodged this question as well. That's because the answer they would give is similar to yours which translates to "That's not our problem" OK then the VA strike isn't my problem and it's not. I see no great loss to the games I play by losing these people.

>>380964228
>try to bring better quality of VA work to videogames
>gamers side against you

even more hilarious when it's weebs siding against them without realizing that Japan has better VA because they aren't treated like garbage but as borderline celebrities

>>380968480
>programmers, animators
>need unions
pick one

Seriously, being a programmer in modern day means "you've comfortable job with good pay". Of course there are some terrible exceptions from this rule, EA for example, but in general it's pretty kewl job.

>>380964228
Steeve Bloom, i play Steeve Bloom and this is Steeve Bloom.

>>380968676
>better quality
>same 5 voice actors over and over again

>>380964758
fred tatasciore is a gifted man

>>380965247
Actually if I remember right Danganronpa was different they actually hired random people who had some voice acting experience in other places. The translator admitted the reason was because it was inexpensive and that they could not afford any big names obviously.

But in the anime the English dubs did have big names but they were worse and even bad. Not the same ones from the game.

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>>380968369

>>380964228
Good i do not mind my weeb stuff subbed anyways.

>>380968653
Because they aren't spoiled whiny pissbabies.

>Every fucking game I have to go through the trouble to undub thanks to the horrible voice acting
Wish all American VAs who do dubs would go on a permanent strike tbqh.

>>380968552
Yes.

Vidya had music when first personal computers got more than one sound channel.
A lot of modern games still don't need voice acting to be good.

>>380968676
why should weebs care about american voice actros you fucking retard

>>380968369
They sound like being smacked with a coconut on their cheek. Grow some taste.

>>380968729
T. English dub fanatic

>>380968303
>I think pay=effort

Hello brainwashed corporate pawn

>>380968774
Yes. It's like the antithesis of American. No hard stops or shrill, whiny syllables.

>>380964745
Good that game fucking sucks, if I have to rewind time one more God time to tell someone I'm sad

>>380968179
this, real men work in the coal mine

>>380968891
wtf i love communism now

>>380968813
No, instead they're dumbasses who are fine with being paid less than they deserve, according to /v/.

>>380964228
Has ANYONE even noticed?

>>380968653
vas are going on strike to feel important when in fact they're completely replaceable. programmers don't need to kick up a stink because they're infinitely more employable than a va. they have no need to strike

>>380968970
life is strange fans
that's about it

>>380968905

american isnt a language dumbass

>>380966339
Pretty good, I get paid in other ways now

>>380968985
And Life is Strange isn't even a game so who cares?

>>380968929
pay=effort is literally communism you tool

>>380968961
Programmers only work on vidya to get some experience on their resume then they move on to business software where the pay and working conditions are much better.

>>380968813
>trying to improve your lot in life makes you a whiny pissbaby
no wonder america happily spent the last 40 years with stagnant wage growth even as the gdp doubled.

>>380968843
They don't exclusively do videogames, you know.

>>380967535
I play all western games like Dark Souls with English dubbing and Japanese subtitles.

>>380969034
not an argument

>>380968997
Try reading my posts before replying to them.

>tfw Steve Blum went from a fun loving guy to an obsessed grandstanding retard during the election
>tfw Nolan North is the only sane english VA

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>>380964659
>Write game with heavy comedic theme
>Have one generic Japanese character who can't speak English properly
>Literally just hire a Japanese person who can't speak English for authenticity
I want this to happen now

>>380968568
>Implying they're good
Nope

>>380968860
Damn, you are fucking stupid

>>380969124

american isnt a language dumbass

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>>380968369
Posh Indian-Brit sounds great, but good luck finding it.

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>>380968970
dawn of war 3 had none of the good voice acting talent present in the previous games
not that it would have saved it if it did

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>>380964228

.mfw

>>380965334
they could even hire singers to VA like japan does

>>380968961
Doing some funny voices into a microphone isn't a particularly taxing job.

>>380964852
australian people sound like they are mentally retarded.

no thanks.

I never heard genuinely good VA in video games and I play since 2001. every single one of them can be replaced. they want to be threated like celebs, but they are not. they have nothing to do with video game success (or failure). i'm also pretty sure only faggots like ashley burch striking.

>>380968653
>So why don't they go on strike if their skills are more valuable than VAs?

Because low-level programmers are dime a dozen.

>>380969146
I'm sure you're going to stop being an temporarily embarrassed millionaire any day now so that you can actually benefit from a lack of unions.

>>380968480

Literally the jews.

>>380969208
dow2 va was so fucking good

>>380968593
>VAs in games have actually improved
>more variety than ever in gaming

Really makes me think

>>380969239
how can you type if you're deaf?

>>380968828
THIS
>Look up game
>Download
>Burgers start talking
>uninstall
>Game undub
>result: game english dub download mega!
>Game undub japanese patch -english
>Have to download it from a vietnamise file service

Just stop dubbing games burgers. Holy shit.

>>380966738
>voice acting in Drakengard 3
>bad
what did he meant with this?

>>380968305
Jim Cummings, but he also played in a lot of stuff outside of games as well.

>>380968179

>aaa titles have become multi-million $ productions the past years
>a shitty voiced protagonist can ruin the whole fucking game's immersion
>not important

fucking frog posters...

>>380969382

Text to speech programs, obviously.

>>380969208
actually I forgot that they had the tactical marine and slugga boy VAs voice one or two units in DoW3
though apart from those the voice acting is really dodgy
>>380969342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlpWn7w0Z0I
the very fucking best

>people complaining about unions and VAs demanding higher pay
>then complain about rich people
rich people get richer because of idiots like you all

>>380969308
The american education system would've benefited from a lack of teacher's unions.

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>>380969445
It wasn't great. Not only this but Zero was pretty much an entirely different character.

>>380968721
>tfw he and the toonami crowd of VAs had an animu made just for them, and the character he voiced was literally just Spike

He's kind of a sad man.

>>380969459
>outside of games as well
Everybody seems to forget about this crucial fact when pointing out why Jap VAs are treated like celebrities and why the Japanese VA industry, in general, is pretty big.

>>380969564
rich guy will cut 3d or code budget so VAs are happy.

>>380969050

Not really. Programmers work on vidya because they're gullible fucking idiots.

I work in Enterprise Software, and I get loads of offers from recruiters to work for video games. They all go in the bin because they're £10k less a year with shitty benefits. I did have an interview with one, and I asked how often do they work extra hours. Answer was along the lines of 'we all get paid a salary, and that means we work hard!'

Yeah, no, I don't live to work. Max 40 hours a week. Never work for a video game company.

>>380964758
fuck off with your gookshit faget

>>380969631
>>tfw he and the toonami crowd of VAs had an animu made just for them
when was this

>>380969556
Even DoW2 had a lot of questionable VA compared to DoW1. I think they were playing a bit too heavily with filters as opposed to pure VA itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRlYSE6kWAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAX2RlRL680

>>380969706
Which only works until the programmers stop being morons and realize collective bargaining benefits them. But they won't, because they're autists.

This truly is the world we deserve.

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There will never be a better villain voice.

RIP.

>>380969721
Your best bet is to work for a small developer where you'll actually feel appreciated. I mean, provided you couldn't cut it with app development for a big firm.

>>380969706
By all accounts VA budget is ALWAYS the first one that cuts cut.

>>380969721
>>380969881
This, or just pair with an artist and start a studio if you want to make game, you'll do extra hours out of passion

>>380969721
You're in a different position, someone who has just graduated will take that vidya job just to have something to put on their resume then when they leave some other graduate will replace them and the cycle will continue.

>>380969881

Yeah I agree, although starting out with a small dev means you're gonna give 2 months of constant work per big project. In that case, you have to really enjoy your job and the people you're working with.

>>380969854
I'll always remember him as Frollo.
Also vidya related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqVVG4FCq7w

>>380969773
it's easy to be captivated by DoW1's voice acting when each faction has a grand total of (albeit good) maybe 5-6 voice actors
like the tactical marine in DoW1 voices 90% of all the faction's units, with some of them just being pure filter work on top of regular lines, like terminators

the only questionable voice acting I remember from DoW2 were the heretics and some of the imperial guard units who sounded far too british

>>380964228
kek
Who cares?

>>380969758
igpx

His character was literally the same fucking hair, the same shit-eating grin, the same popped collar, the same "i'm totally a fighting genius but I just don't give a fuck" everything.
It was literally spike with a different name.

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>>380967272
nani?

>Its been pointed out the companies agreed to all terms except royalties
>One autist is still siding with the VAs at this point

Unfortunately in America unions aren't there to protect people any more, they are to leverage more pay for less or the same amount of work and for the leaders to get an extra cut. This means other groups are going to take a hit and quality will suffer, or prices go up because the companies sure aren't going to eat that cost.

They can serve a purpose but due to the mentality on no comprise they do more harm than good now.

>>380969932
I know Kickstarter is a cesspit but there's a reason why so many of them have voice work as one of the last stretch goals.

>>380970007

Nigga I was in that position. I went for the companies that no one's heard of that offer solid, proper work.

Now I've got a fancy title and loads of benefits at another company no one has ever heard of, and I've worked (through them) for loads of famous companies that I can put on my CV.

>>380964758
Specifically video game VAs? No, not really.

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>>380970165
>mfw everyone laughed at Guy Cihi for even suggesting the idea of unpaid VA royalties as reason why he and other Silent Hill 2 VAs refused to lend their voices to HD Collection at first

As Todd would say - who's laughing now?

>>380964228
Didn't even notice.

Wait it is?

Can someone explain me this?

>>380970087
>See Rogue Galaxy a decade ago
>See Zegram on the cover
>Just know Steve Blum kicked down a door and went "ME! ME! HAVE ME VOICE THAT GUY!!"
>Lo and behold, there he is, delivering typical Spikevoice for the character

>>380966149
>poor workingconditions
>voice actors

L M A O

>>380966149
They are on strike because SAG-AFTRA are greedy cunts and wants more money, so they are demanding royalties like they are the developers or something.

lol fuck those kikes

voice acting is literally detrimental to like 80% of games that have it anyway

>>380964228
VAs are fucking hacks who couldn't make it as real actors. And they ruin games. Fuck em. I hope they get paid even less now for acting like cunts.

>>380969835
>Which only works until the programmers stop being morons and realize collective bargaining benefits them.

Not at all. Any programmer worth their salt knows how to bargain for himself and find jobs at companies that actually need him.

The only programmers who would benefit from "collective bargaining" are pajeets and code monkeys, and if you're in that position then you deserve everything you get and not a cent more desu senpai.

>>380964758
Mark Hamil
But that's because he's talented not only in VA

>>380964758
There used to be Tony Jay, but he passed away long ago now.
I also like Kaz's voice actor.

>>380970551
They basically want Screen Actors Guild treatment. Look that shit up if you don't know what I mean.
They want more money than their work is worth and they want to block any and all new potential talent from entering the industry, so all future jewgold goes to them.

>>380970365
I am because he thought people would care enough to bend over to that demand.

Also remasters are a fucking cancer used by companies to cash in on the nostalgia of gamers.

>>380964758
As a rule of thumb, there's an American VA who only does video games is shit. All the veterans and legends of the scene have done cartoons, stage, acting etc...

You know, they're actual professionals who respect the craft like their Japanese counterparts.

>tfw maybe this will encourage devs to ditch voice acting and spend that budget on shit that actually matters instead

holy fuck are we witnessing the end of the "VOICE ACTING FOR FUCKING EVERYTHINGGGG!!" plague?

>>380970812
remasters are a logical extension of life+80 year copyright. When you cannot make derivative works, you regurgitate shit.

>>380970841
I've noticed that, the ones who are really stamping their feet about this and pushing for no comprise are the ones who either can't or don't do anything else.

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>mfw no Alyson Court voicing Claire in RE2 remake because of this union bullshit
The game could be mediocre but at least it would have her original voice. Not anymore I guess.

>>380967187
That is actually pretty important. Matt Mercer once mentioned that most of the time he gets told just to do whatever when asked how he should play the character.

>>380970812
>I am because he thought people would care enough to bend over to that demand.

They ultimately signed the voices over because fans asked for them to. It also wasn't the same situation as this seeing as Cihi and company were asking for OVERDUE shit, not some changes in the industry at large.

>>380970686
>fuck you i got mine
next i'm sure you'll regale us with tales of pulling yourself up by your bootstraps

>>380967272
>>non-english VA
>>can't distinguish tone of voice between pleading, annoyed, whimsical, interrogative, amiable, furious, or even between a fucking question or a statement
That's literally just you being autistic. I've played The Witcher games in Polish and it was fine. I've played Beyond Good & Evil in French and it was fine.

>>380964758
Grey DeLisle makes me cream


tbqhfam

>>380970767
>Kaz
Yeah Robin Atkin Downes is pretty good, he did voice work for Doomsday in the Batman V Superman movie

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>>380970802
>They want more money than their work is worth and they want to block any and all new potential talent from entering the industry, so all future jewgold goes to them.

Big sticking point will be proving whether VA is an equal draw and importance to performances in other media aka we know people go see movies based on who's starring, but is it really the same with VAs? Based on these months the strike has been going on, not really. People don't seem to care who voices their video games.

>mock voice actors for being in a shit profession that is seen as a joke that deserves the shit they get
>expect a performance that isn't shit

>>380970841
Yeah Matt Mercer and Crispin Freeman have done a lot of different work and are pretty well known to gush about Anime too. Hell Crispy once talked about fucking Hentai on a con.

>>380971080
You called programmers morons for not doing something that only morons would actually need to do. I just explained that to you m8. Not all jobs are equal, not all jobs need unions and collectivization.

But go ahead, go on a strike and help people like me rake in even more dosh.

So will we finally go back to pure textboxes then?

>>380971268
>voice actors

Lets go and think about something shall we?

Think of every big budget animated movie in the past decade.

How many of them starred "voice actors" in anything other than a bit part?

It's always 'actors'

Voice Acting is a fucking meme.

>>380971337
why are you bitching him out for calling the people you called morons morons

you fucking moron

>>380971238
I can't believe I only realized just now that Downes is TF2's Medic's voice actor.

>>380970958
>boss lets you do what you want
>no cracking of the whip
>"OMG THE WORKING CONDITIONS ARE ATROCIOUS! STRIKE!!"

>>380971413
maybe if voice acting wasn't a meme they would hire voice actors instead of actors for voices

>>380971387
If only

>>380971287
this, of course people with talent will try for jobs with better conditions
people here think that giving less money will somehow spawn more talent

>>380967272
I played Breath of the Wild in English and German and let me tell you the German dub shits all over the English one when it comes to emotion.

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>Many people on team spend countless hours coding
>Making sure everything is right
>Testing
>Fixing
>Testing
>Paid less than <X voice actor>
>"I spoke a few times pls give me more sheks"

Fuck off.

>>380971461
>do whatever because you have no direction and you have no fucking clue who you're even voicing because they won't disclose that to you
>people hate the performance and point to it as an example of why voice actors are shit and don't deserve respect or good pay
>voice director gets zero flak because no one knows they exist

ok

>>380971579
>german
>emotion

>>380969151
dumbass

>>380971337
>programmers have absolute shit hours and working conditions in the game industry
>get angry at other vocations trying to get a better deal
>I CAN BARGAIN BETTER MYSELF
obviously not

>>380971461
Some people actually want to act out a character. Not everyone is Troy Baker.

>>380969854
Good ole Megabyte.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8z6C1SXQFI

>>380971673
Why should they care about what other people make in a field completely separate from theirs?

>>380971726
Try it out. German Zelda doesn't sound like she's reading a fucking script and Mipha's voice doesn't need to force herself to sound all cute

>>380971842
Because they're working on the same project.

>>380971268
Conroy and Hamill reprising their rolls as Batman and the Joker for the Arkham games was a big deal and was featured pretty prominently in the marketing but other than that I can't think of any examples
Also it's a pretty unfair example because they'd been playing those characters on TV on and off for 15 years by that point and Mark Hamill was the lead actor in Star Wars

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TF2 has great voice acting

why do they think their performance going to win oscars or some shit? especially when they just work for some kids game. not a single adult cares about their voice.

>>380971826
https://youtu.be/T8cAtvh8OXU

>>380971884
So what?

>>380971673
voice actors can be a draw, no one cares that "x" guy worked on a game unless is someone like Kojima which doesn't actually work on them anyway

>>380971673
>not trying to get a better deal
you deserve nothing

>>380971686
It's still just talking into a fucking mic. If voice actors can't talk to directors about playing the character, then maybe they shouldn't choose talking as a "profession"

People striking in order to get better pay is a good thing, kiddo.

>am voice actor
>meet voice director
>"ok do voice"
>what am I voicing
>"is some guy, looks like you"
>does he have a name
>"it's in development"
>do you at least have a picture?
>"nothing final"
>ok how does this voice sound that I'm using right now
>"bam that's it, you're hired"

Directors, man.
Also I'm not a voice actor.

>>380967171
That's what Daisuke Ishiwatari (designer and musician for Guilty Gear) did for Sol Badguy.

>>380964758
david hayter

>>380972003
t. butthurt failed voice actor

>>380971943
Because when the field pays better and it's more respected maybe more adults would care about their voice?

>>380969590
Weirdly, Automata has exactly the same issue where they completely fuck the main character in the dub.

voice actors do mocap

99% of AAA drivel that makes millions is cinematic experience crap with a bazillion cut scenes. All those cut scenes are voice actors being mocaped.

>>380971726
See >>380967473

>>380971962
>comes up with counter point
>"so?"

Moron.

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>>380966149
>poor workingconditions
fucking firstworld problems.
They should hang themselves.
There are people working in the sewers and coalmines and these candy-asses are crying about their income when they're not even working unlike all the real actors.

>>380967265
>what is a strike fund
are you even in the labor union?

>>380972147
How does that counter anything, you retard? Do you think voice actors work closely with the programmers or something?

>>380972192
YEAH DUDE THERE ARE PEOPLE MINING URANIUM WITH THEIR FINGERS STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO YOUR LIFE! DON'T QUESTION THE SYSTEM!

>>380972227
Unions are all but dead in the US, so probably no.

>>380972058
There would be nothing cooler in video games than how Daisuke Ishiwatari not only oversaw but fucking contributed meaningfully to every facet of Guilty Gear in the beginning.

>designed characters
>wrote AND performed music
>designed gameplay systems
>instead of backing down from any notion that his MC is a Gary Stu coolguy insert he goes "YEAH SO WHAT?" and fucking voices him

Does this mean we won't get any more shitty dubs for jap games? Honestly just fire them all and make do with subs like a non-retard.

>>380967239
Nolan and Baker do not give a fuck really. They have mentioned many times that they do not care about the VA strike.

>>380972284
>I spoke a few lines
vs
>I coded for countless hours

Fuck off.

>>380972192
>You shouldn't complain about your misery because these completely unrelated people have it worse

>>380971686
I'm surprised Matt did such a good job for Yusuke in P5 with what he said in mind. Or they actually mentioned 'You're playing an artist' to him.

>>380972360
If your job is so important, maybe you should be trying to get paid better. Or have less shit working conditions.

Nah, let's yell at other people trying to do that instead.

>>380972360
>unique voice
vs
>job that thousand of people could do

>>380972360
Still don't see why VAs should care.

>>380972314
>comparing talking into a mic with mining dangerous minerals with rudimentary tools
talk about grasping at straws

>>380972475
>unique
"Shit" isn't exactly unique. Are any actually good VAs doing this strike?

>>380972314
Fuck you, if you think voice acting is "work" that has bad conditions, then you should really get out of your basement once in a while, you entitled pissguzzler

>>380966503
>the VAs should do the work of the voice director
Are you completely, genuinely, fucking retarded you underage?

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>More Nintendo Treehouse voice acting

>>380972003
It's also bending your voice over backwards a lot. Compare Laura Baley today with her standard voice to earlier when she wasn't on AAA titles.
Or let's take Mark Hamill who is coughing blood whenever he does the Joker because of the strain the role did on his voice.

Is there actually a best way to become a voice actor?

I've been told I have a great voice. Many people have specifically said to me "you would have the perfect voice for radio"; which could be a good or bad thing I guess. And I can do different voice ranges as well, as much as I've tried while just goofing off or making a joke or whatever.

I don't have a good quality mic so if I posted a vocaroo or something, it wouldn't sound right.

Hell, I'd do some some easy squeezy VA for indie games if I knew how. They'd probably only pay me min-wage but I don't give a fuck, it's good side money.

I couldn't give less of a shit about some fuccbois in cali speaking words into a microphone. They deserve nothing.

>>380969275
yeah nah garn get fucked

>>380972356
>Nolan wins an award
>goes up on stage and proceeds to tell everyone that voice actors are important, but only a small part of the puzzle and we rely on numerous other people like coders to make games good
I fucking love Nolan north.

>>380972653
Well if the VA Union has its way you wont

>>380964537
She was a good VA in LiS, too bad she's going to lose her spot thanks to her warped perception of reality.
Her replacement is pretty good though.

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>>380972314
DO NOT QUESTION.

OBEY.

>>380971387
This might need we will have more story driven games than movies.

>>380972596
>don't complain because there's always someone that has it worse!
fuck off with your christcuck, slave mentality
>m-m-y master is a good master! I have no reason to complain!

>>380972668
They don't give a shit about you either, you know.

>>380964745
Rofl I had totally forgotten about the strike being the reason they recast that stupid cunt

>"I won't do this voice until you give us X, Y & Z"

>"you'll be sadly missed bitch"

>>380972653
What the voice actors say every time is "jus b an actor like normal".
That seems to be their go to response.
Time to go to theater, anon.

>>380966149
So nobody is going to mention how the Japanese VAs have worse conditions and do a better job?

>>380972784
Neither do the people who pay them, apparently. And all is right with the world.

>>380972603
I only know that Crispin Freeman is one of the negotiators and he does Winston in Overwatch.

>this shit might slow down kingdom hearts

end it now

>>380972058
Banjo Kazooie did this as well back in the day in the 90's they just made bit voices and used a synth and messed around with it.

>>380972824
How do they have worse working conditions lmao

>>380972653
Do an abridged series like TeamFourStar?

>>380972896
It won't, because contracts.

>>380966651
Good job blowing your entire VA budget on some big-name actor, just look at Fallout 3.
I'd rather they hire hobos off the street.

>>380972769
Got a sample of her replacement?

>>380972923
Something like that doesn't really require a whole lot of acting, so devs doing something like that is understandable. Didn't stop Nintendo from hiring an actor and scrambling her voice to make Midna's lines, though.

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>voice actors go on strike
>they hire new people
>"Hey, these new people are not bad, they are actually pretty good"
>VAs notice what is going on
>"P-P-Please give us our job back"

I can already see it

>>380971770
>programmers have absolute shit hours and working conditions in the game industry

Citation needed. Again, pajeets and codemonkeys are the only ones suffering.

>get angry at other vocations trying to get a better deal
The fuck are you talking about? I don't mind VAs going on a strike, because as a matter of fact none of my favorite games have voice acting. They can do whatever shit they want.

>I CAN BARGAIN BETTER MYSELF
Correct. As proved by the fact that I don't need an union to do it for me and make 110k a year right now. (But started at 80k years ago)

>>380969125
Wasn't that John DiMaggio?
Also
>Someone who has a different political opinion than me is an obsessive, grandstanding retard.

>>380973000
>Tfw can't watch DBZ because I keep hearing Lani doing Vegeta's voice
>Tfw I can do the same voice

It's at least good for some laughs in parties and game chats

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>>380971914

>>380973050
that's what Bethesda does for the rest of the NPC and people always complain about the shit voice acting of these games

>>380973065
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7d75ntYy_M
Considering she had to be recruited at the last minute and it's not even the main studio I'd say they're still doing a good job.

>>380972972
They earn next to nothing for example. Only the top grade VAs there get to pick their own salary.
That being said Japanese VAs also do way more. Like singing.

>>380973232
Bethesda is just shit in general though, they can't do anything right

>>380973108
What's best is companies will work with them on everything thing except the royalties and they are refusing to budge

>>380972746
I watched that to. He was so based on the video game awards last year.

"Without the programmer's and 3D editors I would not look good without them they create my character and give them life they work hard everyday from their families and long hours to make video games worth playing and. the highest level. If there are those that are more deserving of this award it's them I am nothing without their work and dedication "

How can anyone not like Nolan after that speech. He basically grilled the VA union and has echoed what /v/ has been saying since the strike began.

>>380973138
what's the difference between a codemonkey and a programmer?

>>380964537
In that case I hope the strike continues forever.

>>380972389
no, you shouldn't complain about some non-existent "misery", when literally all you do is exhale air in a different tone.

Is it just me or are there a bunch of VA shitters in this thread?

I swear, even most of the popular twitch streamers would do your job better you fucking troglodytes.

Infact, there are a bunch of talentented normal people out there that only need to go to an audition to get hired.

Acting is not a hard skill, voice acting is even less.

Shit, it takes more to get lucky in the genetic lottery that gives you a smooth or rugged voice.

Take singers for example or people like Michael Winslow, they can do all kinds of amazing sounds their voice, some of which you can't ever train or learn to achieve.

But yeah, keep whining about voiceacting conditions, they're "so skilled" and "unique" that they deserve to be put on a golden pedestal and need to earn 50% of the game's profits.

How much do you think these faggot hipsters would cry if they had to go work manual labor or as an EMT or anything strenuous instead of just talking and throwing fits on Twitter lmao

>>380973239
Sounds a bit more tough girl-ish
Also
>Fire Walk
Nice reference.

>>380973279
They get paid next to nothing because there's an oversaturation of seiyu. There's also a ton more work to go around.

The VAs have no leverage. No one buys a game for voice acting except maybe a small group of turbo autist fanboys. The companies don't need them to sell a game and they know it.

They'll cave eventually.

>>380968738
Least DR3 was hilarious as a dub despite quality.
>>380964758
Who ever voiced Krishna in SMTIVA.
Anyone know his name?

Why do most voice actors just talk in their regular ass voice and call it "acting" anyway?

If the script was for an old man and they just talked like themselves, why is that acting? If they put in the effort to sound like an old man who had some lost teeth and a bit of a wheeze to him through their normal voice, that would be acting.

Like, shit, try it with me. In your completely regular voice say "Hey sonny, ya seen my glasses anywhere?" and then try it again in a sort of wheezy "old hag" voice. Which one sounds more like an acted role?

I hate how you can recognize most voice actors just by their regular voice. "Hey, there's Jenn Hale." or "Wow, Nolan again, huh?" I want to look up a character and find out "Oh shit, she did the voice for her? I couldn't even tell!"

>>380973369
One is a self important twit

>>380973279
Matt Mercer sung for Fire Emblem

>>380965202
What else can Austalians do?

>>380964758
Robert Atkin Downes is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSJB2RiQjfQ

I also really like Liam O'brien

The problem is that voice actors aren't really actors, not the majority of them anyway. They just have a distinguishable voice. Not that that is inherently a bad thing, I mean I like a Clooney flick as much as the next guy, but Fassbender is an actual actor. Sean Schemmel is an actor, Troy Baker is a celebrity.

At the end of the day the Union is the biggest issue. VAs should have unique contracts for each job and be allowed to haggle. Instead the cancer that is the VA Union wants a flat percentage no matter what. Unions actively ignore context and harm more than they help because all they're doing is helping themselves to gross union fees.

>>380973580
Survive in a hell hole where everything wants to kill you

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I hope this strike won't stop David Hayter from voicing Snake in MGS5

>>380973580
Wrestle crocodiles
Fight kangaroos

>>380972475
>unique voice
This is where you're wrong. Voice acting is like the composing industry x10. People only care if you're already successful, which is why we get the same five people who dubbed Dragon Ball Z 20 years ago voicing everything today.

>>380973480
Explain why so many of them get invited to cons these days?
Hell Overwatch's voice cast basically does marketing due to their characters being so popular.

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>>380964758
>Miyuki Sawashiro
Absolutely god tier

>>380973596
I love RAD as a VA. He does great work. He even narrated a Lovecraft documentary once.

He was good in that, he's great as Kaz, good as Travis Touchdown too, and pretty much whatever else he does.

>>380964228
>set a fee
>work for that fee
>receive money
>game turns out to be a massive success and sells like hotcakes
>"I DESERVE more money"

I'm more worried about the codemonkeys, do they get paid fairly?

>>380973515
They don't even get told their character is an old man most of the time.

>>380972475
As shown by companies not giving a shit about the strike, their voice isn't unique and easily replaceable.

>>380973082
I agree but it was a common practice in the 90's when there was not that much money for voice acting.

>>380972896
It won't. Haley Joel needs to get his cocaine somehow.

>>380973823
No, it's no joke that you'd get paid better if you go for any non-vidya programming position.

>>380973279
Did Ashley Burch ever sung for a videogame?

>>380973770
That has more to do with blizzard's autistic fanbase than anything else.

>>380973823
Kinda. Coding is a job anyone can do in a mediocre level, so yeah, if you want to be paid fairly, you got to study like a mother fucker.

>>380967272
Oh my fucking God, is this what a regular american thinks like? So we REALLY are living in Idiocracy right now, what a shock!

>>380973602
Jenn Hale can actually do convincing young characters if you look back to her Pre-Mass Effect days.
Problem is they appear in one popular game and everyone wants them to do tjat voice for the rest of their career.

jesus what a bunch of whiny cunts

gas them all

>>380973770

And who goes to cons? Turbo autist fanboys. 99.9 percent of the people buying Call of Duty or GTA V could give a fuck whose doing the voices. Rockstar figured this out when they stopped hiring celebrities for theirs games. They don't even use "name" voice actors like Baker or North.

If voice actors win this strike, only thye known ones will benefit. All the lower level ones will be pushed out by higher level actors who are now more enticed by the rewards offered.

That's is why someone like Ashly Burch really wants this

>>380973361
I know they tried to misquote him one him on that

>>380964758
-Vermintide
-Soul Sacrifice (English voices obviously)
-Darkest Dungeon
-Hand of Fate
-Sam Witwer for Star Wars and Dc stuff

Plenty of talented VA out there.

>>380973823
Mostly what I've heard and read about is programming in a videogame company is for one of two people:
1)Just out of school and badly need a job in your field for experience
Or
2) People who truly love videogames and are willing to claw and fight their way to a position in the company that let's them do that but are better paid and such.

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>>380973369
One is a junior programmer and the other is a senior programmer.

Just kidding, being a code-monkey means having absolutely no input whatsoever on the design of the software or whatever it is you're working on. The lead programmer comes and gives you a checklist with a date, and regardless of whether you can do some stuff better, or differently, they don't care and expect you and your 50 other colleagues to follow it to the letter and shit out a product as FAST as possible (you can always test/fix stuff later amirite? )

Generally the more programmers are in a company, the higher the chances some of them are code-monkeys. Programming is a bit like cooking, and there can be "too many chefs in the kitchen", so in hindsight it makes sense to split them up into the ones making the decisions and the drones. However it's my opinion (backed up by a bit of anecdotal experience) that this method can be harmful to development. Adding more programmers to the team can speed up the process, up until a point. After a certain number (which depends on the nature of the project itself) adding more programmers is actually actively SLOWING down the development rate. Code and information has to pass through too many hands. Huge projects where you don't even know your colleagues by their names are a mess most of the time, really.

So yeah a bunch of keywords to look for when identifying code monkeys : fast, quantity over quality, overtime working, the more the better, outsourcing, etc.

>>380974197
Wait, why even have those multiplications in that bracket. Why does it look more complicated than it needed to be.

Why can't I get the joke. Fug I need to self study more.

>>380974137
+1 for vermintide.

>>380973108
Why not? I mean Danganronpa did it because they had a low budget and had to do casting. As much as anyone likes to shit on the English version because mah Japanese cast I do think they did better than hiring the overatted voice actors for those roles and it ended up not being that bad.

The industry should just start doing that and have a tier system like Japan does.

A team- veterans in the industry

B team- halfway from veteran status

C team- a few roles and that is it.

And those that suck do not move up and are no longer casted of course they have different demands for payment in their tiers but they earn it and it's competitive. They do not have unions but they do have agents that help them out though.

I just do not see why we have to settle for sub par acting when there are talented people that can actually be in this system and succeed. It's a win for everyone but unions.

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>>380973596
>>380973808
>not mentioning his career defining role

>>380973836
oh the humanity

where can I send my shekels to help ease their horrendous pain?

>>380973154
Cool assumption. I don't care who he voted for, just that he became bitter and hateful during the election.

>It's a Union mafia shits get BTFO week

I love those weeks.

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>>380964758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzZ6GrRTgrM

IF FIGHTING IS SURE TO RESULT IN VICTORY, THEN YOU MUST FIGHT!

>>380972621
I agree with that guy. Consider this, even a regular actor is told how his character is feeling. But the best actors still openly research their roles to get into the mindset.

In other words, fuck off with justifying their half assed jobs.

>>380974458
We're going on one year, anon. This is a marathon.

>>380974324
The multiplication is not the issue or point of the joke; it's actually a rather sane way of writing how many milliseconds there are in a day.

The actual joke is that instead of getting what tomorrow's date is, the sleep() function will halt the program for a day, and then get the current date from the system.

>>380964758
Good VAs are those that do not dub japanese anime games.

>screams into a microphone
>gets sheks
>does not need several hours in gym every week
>does not even need to wear clothes
>complain

I hope these entitled fags get the boot desu senpai

>>380970802
Aren't they Screen Actors Guild? That's the SAG in SAG-AFTRA.

unless you are a corporate slave there is no reason for being against the VA
maybe companies could spend more money on the quality of the game instead of marketing, but you guys are so hooked on memes that anything tied to a "union" is instantly bad and asking for better conditions is literally communism and starvation for the masses

>>380974356
That's RAD? I've never known.

I think that's the nature of a good VA. Not knowning when they did a character, because that's acting; and not just "talking like yourself".

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>>380974324
1000 milliseconds => 1 second
60 seconds => 1 minute
60 minutes => 1 hour
24 hours => 1 day

The code itself is not complicated at all, it's telling the system to sleep for 1 day and then get the date.