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Hironobu Sakaguchi to announce new game on June 22

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Final Fantasy creator Hironobu Sakaguchi will announce a new game during a Famitsu Niconico live stream on June 22 at 20:00 JST.
Nobuo Uematsu, founder of Dog Ear Records and composer known for the Final Fantasy series among many other titles, will be featured on the live stream as a guest.
Further details were not announced.

http://gematsu.com/2017/06/hironobu-sakaguchi-announce-new-game-june-22#cJgKZTzWcPYZmrZg.99

So what is it going to be? They talked about it being console game before.
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He really needs to come back to FF and save it from filth like Tabata, Kitase and the rest.
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final fantasy 10-3
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>>380951713
FFIX remaster
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Initial Fantasia
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>>380951832
>>380951924
It's Mistwalker, not Square Enix
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He promised to create a console version of Terra Battle...over two years ago. Looking at how he can't manage a goddamn mobile game properly, to the point it stays afloat only because of the names attached to it, I doubt he can do anything actually good anymore
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>>380952010
Oh. Then its trash.

Disreguard this thread everyone. False alarm.
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>>380951997
climactic fabrication
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>>380951713
Friendly reminder that
- Most of the games associated with this guy weren't actually made by him (look up FF6, 7 etc)
- The only reason Lost Odyssey doesn't get much flack is because barely anyone played it
- He is a hack and always has been

Now stop spamming this thread
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>>380951713
C-Could it be?
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>>380952072
>2017
>Looking forward to anything square enix related
End yourself
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>>380952227
Yeah. Lost Odyssey was recently made available on Xbox BC.

Sakaguchi is probably working on the sequel for Xbox One X with 4k.
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>>380952290
No u
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>>380951787
Sakaguchi loved FFXV and greatly respects Tabata.
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>>380952290
this.
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>>380951787
And mainly Nomura.
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>>380951787
>tfw lost odyssey was the game FFXIII should have been
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>>380952383
That comment was a business move not his actual opinion. Do you really think an oldschool JRPG director sat though a shitty open world game with faggoty characters?
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>>380952394
He fucked up Musashi's design? Goddamit
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>>380952394
Why are you ignoring that Nomura also designed Barret, Cid, Dyne, Raijin, Auron, Jecht, Gladio, Cor etc
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>it's a confirmed mobile game
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>>380952394
Nomura has never (read: NEVER) directed an FF game. The only one he had significant creative input on (FF7) is one of the most beloved in the series, and from what we saw Versus XIII would have been the best game in the series. I know you just wanted to post that image but at least find a better excuse for it
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>>380952394
looks like they have teen gohan syndrome.
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>>380952494
You just replied to xv-kun, now the thread is over.
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>>380952494
No it was his actual opinion, he gave it his GOTY and had been praising Tabata for a while now. And in a livestream he was doing with Tabata last year he started shit talking Kitase while praising Tabata. Your denial is hilarious though.
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>>380952598
"teen gohan syndrome"
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>>380952542
Because that invalidates his shitpost, it's easier to ignore
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>>380952394
He's also created some of the most iconic character designs in videogames
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>>380952626
So you think he's Sakaguchi is lying? Do you have proof?
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>>380952668
did you see me write Barret in my post? do you see Barret in that picture?
I was clearly talking about the image.
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>1980s
>haha I'm a young nip and this is an economic boom I'm in! We can shit out these dumb games and turn profits quick! haha golf courses, hookers, and blow here I come!"
>"okay this is the last one lol!"
>Final Fantasy
>Final Fantasy II
>Final Fantasy III
>Final Fantasy IV
>Final Fantasy V
>Final Fantasy VI
>Final Fantasy VII
>Final Fantasy IX
>Final Fantasy X
>The Last Story
>"somebody please just put me out of my misery" for iOS and Android!
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>>380952583
You shut your whore mouth, Chaika. Mistwalker is the kind of dev that will fund proper games with their mobile profits.
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>>380952648
So then he has a bias towards Tabata? What's your point? Maybe they share wives or something
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>>380952010
>Lost Odyssey sequel or spiritual successor
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>>380952756
post of the day
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>>380952754
An image that is pretending his characters like Barret, Jecht or Gladio don't exist
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>>380952756
u forgot blue dragon
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>>380952756
Could be worse. At least he has clout to get things rolling. Someone like Matsuno is still stuck developing mobile games in a basement somewhere.
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>>380952812
My point was that he loved FFXV and greatly respects Tabata, as he's expressed as much.
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>>380952383
Game wasn't even out yet. He was just trying to help Tabata out because he realized the guy is a clueless mong.
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FFXV PC
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Friendly reminder to the Nomurafags infesting this thread
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>>380951713
He was supposed to make the mobile game Terra Battle into a full console game a long time ago after it passed a certain download milestone. It is actually pretty good, but I hope it's something else. It works fine as is, unless he turns it into a traditional JRPG.
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>>380952936
It's not fucking fair. He's made my favorite Final Fantasy games by far.
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>>380953013
Barry lmao just go away
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>>380952968
You can stop embarrassing yourself.

http://www.dualshockers.com/final-fantasy-creator-hironobu-sakaguchi-picks-final-fantasy-xv-game-year/

This is from a whole month after the game was released
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>>380953013
Are you excited for the greatest VR game ever fellow CHOCOBRO?
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>>380953013
Tabata is a phony who also said action games were too complex and needed a hold to win button. A philosophy he ruined XV with.
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Concept art for the new project. Reminder that this concept art was leaked seven years ago before Cry-On was cancelled.

>implying we won't finally get Cry-On

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFp1wFroJyQ
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>>380953013
Tabata has based taste
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>>380952887
I'm not the person you should be arguing with am I?
Look, i like his work, i was just making a silly remark.
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>>380953134
so is it a console game or not?
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>>380951713
>terra battle 2 on console
cant wait for it to be nothing
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>>380953013
wtf i love tabata now
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>>380952136
produced FF6 and 7 and more. yes not as big of an influence as director but still a huge influence

does sound like you've played the lost odyssey either

and the last story had a lot of issues but was really cool
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>>380953097
No shit the FF father would pick FF as his GOTY. Doesn't change the fact that Tabata is a clueless retard who had to beg Sakaguchi to shill for him because he inspired zero confidence in the fanbase.
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>>380953013
>Good at team management and getting things done
Explain then why is XV an unfinished mess with ammount of content missing that puts early acess games to shame and had to be PATCHED with additional cutscenes or things like "fixing" chapter 13
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>>380953163
>>380953230
>>380953013

Holy fuck, Barry
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>>380953013
BASED NOMURA
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>>380953181
we don't know yet but my guess is it. i don't necessarily remember mistwalker hyping up one of their mobileshits plus it has been a while since mistwalker made a console game.
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>>380953013
is tabata our guy
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>>380953237
Nomura wrote 7s base story and was the one who wrote that Aeris dies, he is the one who talked about it in interviews, not Sakaguchi

Nomura is the one who talked about death saying that death is sudden and unpredictable, that originally he knew someone was to die but that he didn't want it to be Barret because that would be too predictable which is why he wrote that Aeris dies, because that wasn't predictable, Nomura wrote the whole base story and all the characters of 7

The only thing Sakaguchi wrote on 7 was the lifestream concept

Then Kitase and Nojima took Nomura's base story+characters and mixed it with Sakaguchis lifestream concept and fleshed out the story
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>>380953126
No that was misinterpreted translation of his stayement and he cleared that up on a livestream a few days later after where he said XV uses multiple buttons for jump, attack, dodge, warp etc, not just one button and that you can tap the attack button to attack.

But you're just going to ignore that.
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>>380953278
they had around 2 years of time to work on the game in reality. creating the FFXV that we ended up getting within 2 years against all the odds is VERY VERY impressive. tabata is clearly competent.
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>>380953106
According to someone who played it it's actually good.
https://uploadvr.com/final-fantasy-xv-monsters-deep-e3/
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>>380953465
>they had around 2 years of time to work on the game in reality
First it was 10 years

Then 6

Then 4

Now 2

Tomorrow three days and a Saturday.
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>>380951713
Twewy 2
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>>380953249
He didnt pick ff13 as his GOTY, or ff12 or ff14 either. Never mind that it was Sakaguchi who reached out to Tabata and not the other way around
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>>380953420
>No that was misinterpreted translation of his stayement
Every time. Every fucking time. Why do I even bother with this nutjob?
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>>380953278
It isn't unfinished and it has more content than any other FF. Ch13 patch just added new stuff and only showed something about Ravus that people who payed attention would have already known .Just because new side story stuff is being added doesn't make it unfinished.
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>>380953593
>He didnt pick ff13 as his GOTY, or ff12 or ff14 either
Nobody fucking asked for his GOTYs back then.
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>>380953013
woah Tabata actually has good taste in vidya.
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>>380953465
Maybe, just maybe that's true, but spending so much time and resources on a game that's already released in order to try fix is a sign of incompetence. People who were disappointed by XV at launch will not suddenly call it a great game even if you add major content elaborating on some characters 3 years after the game releases. By now the team should disband and be distributed to other projects, whoring out XV as a franchise itself doesn't help at all because soon enough you will end up with what caused Kingfom Hearts to be so hated
>>380953732
>Just because new side story stuff is being added doesn't make it unfinished.
Episode Gladio takes place within the main story of the game, it's essentially a cut content, not a sidestory
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>>380953420
>Tabata's also in pursuit of a Final Fantasy that's not as overwhelming as its predecessors, and one that can be enjoyed by a broader audience. "With Final Fantasy 15, I do want to make it more casual," he says. "Of course the depth of the game is going to be there, but I want to make it so players can easily experience the satisfaction of the depth of the game." There's an option to set that car to drive itself, allowing players to sit back and take in the sights - although there is also an option to drive it manually, should they want to engage more fully with the world.

>"Another example is in the combat," explains Tabata. "With the hardware specifications of the newer consoles, it's possible to set it up so you have different enemies and different choices of attacks you can enter in, but I want to simplify that. It'll basically be a one-button action, and the AI intuitively outputs an action that kind of satisfies, gives you that instant gratification, and it connects with the simple touch of a button. I myself am not getting any younger. I don't want to be frantically pushing buttons. I also want to utilise the intelligence of the hardware spec, and not have to go through too much hassle or trouble in order to execute moves."
>mistranslation
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>>380953289
Why'd you respond to me?
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>>380953354
looks like it
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Unreal engine 4 will save square enix.
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>>380953354
A huge corporate whore and a chronic liar? If you say so.
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>>380953403
Sakaguchi came up with the Materia system.
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>>380953650
It's mentioned everytime because it's a fucking fact. Just playing the game already confirms that you have an attack button, dodge button, warp button, jump button, weapon switching buttons and more, so what the fuck are you even trying to still pretend there's only one button used to do everything with?
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>>380954054
UE4 is pretty godly
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>>380954054
They should've switched to Unreal 4 with XV when they had the chance. Based Nomure for actually making the right choice.
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>>380953749
So basically you're full of shit and in denial. But hey keep moving the goalposts.
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>>380954129
Nah it's demanding as fuck and nowhere as flexible as UE3. It just shows the difference in dev talent.
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>>380954218
Find me a source citing Sakaguchi's 2006 GOTY you lying two-faced fuck.
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>>380953403
Nomuracucks everyone.
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>>380954096
The Materia system isn't why FF7 is so popular though, even though it's arguably the best customization system in any game ever.
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>>380953853
Episode Gladio is a sidestory, the main story is Noctis going to Steyliff with Aranea learning about the empire and the daemons, while that happens Gladio is off training with Cor and fights Gilgamesh, and after that Noctis in the main story meets up with Gladio back in lestallum. Gladio's episode has nothing to do with progressing the main story. It's a self contained side story where he temporarily left the party for a few days and rejoined.
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>>380953872
>literally posting the misinterpreted statement from before he cleared up what he meant during the ATR where he said there is different buttons for different actions and that you can tap to attack and that he doesn't want to make it more casual.
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>>380952648
he's able to appreciate him because he doesn't work with him, he's the kind of person who can't tell how bad a situation is until it's being smeared across his face.
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>>380953013
This was a better moment than anything in FFXV including the tryhard ending
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>>380952290
I don't but I still have the little bell that goes off that I coudn't get rid of even if I tried, it's been trained across many years and trying to tell it to stop is futile
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>>380954541
Another case of retard Tabata backtracking his failed statements to excite people. Guy is a phony. Simple ss that.
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>KH3 has launchers
>FFXV doesn't
How does this happen?
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>>380954054
>>380954129
>>380954205
>posts 2 year old demo glitch, outdated pics and prompto photo for XV instead of actual final game direct screenshots

KH3 looks like fucking shit and luminous on XV produces better results than the KH3 team have done with KH3 on UE4
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>>380951713
I hope its Final Fantasy 6 on the 3ds or something.

Out of all the pre-playstation days, 6 got the least amount of love.
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>>380954834
left looks better

what the fuck is wrong with the textures on the right are they from the ps3 era
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>>380954834
Past the nice tits, left looks better. Much better lightning.
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>>380954834
Left is better. Try again
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>>380953853
SE doesn't like to have horrible mistakes kept on their resume. must be a japanese thing. they fixed FFXIV by remaking it into an entirely new game, and they're trying to "fix" FFXV by adding new content. it definitely might not the best business strat, but thats part of what i think makes it admirable.
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>>380954313
The fact that he didn't even make one is more than enough proof that he didn't give 12, 13 or 14 his GOTY

Also Sakaguchi said he refused to play FF12.
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>>380954834
>compares trailer years before release to cindy from a finished game

nice xv-kun, at least post 0.2 aqua you shitter.
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>>380954541
>"I myself am not getting any younger. I don't want to be frantically pushing buttons. I also want to utilise the intelligence of the hardware spec, and not have to go through too much hassle or trouble in order to execute moves."

>"Tabata's also in pursuit of a Final Fantasy that's not as overwhelming as its predecessors, and one that can be enjoyed by a broader audience. "With Final Fantasy 15, I do want to make it more casual,"

I don't care about different button actions. You still hold O and hold Square for majority of fights, as they are the most optimal and viable combat methods. The game wasn't designed to be a hassle, like he said, and that's why hold O/Square always works. The casualization of XV alligns exactly with his statement.
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>>380954589
Hey look more fucking denial.
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>>380954643
No it wasn't, the final campfire scene is better than any shit KH has ever tried.
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>>380953403
wow i dont think you understand. sakaguchi was the producer of the game. he had a very large influence on its development. just because you cant google his name and find very specific details of the game's story that were spearheaded by him, doesnt mean that he didnt have a very large influence on the game's development. I love all big FF names except for toriyama for the record
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>>380954683
He didn't backtrack anything, he cleared up a misunderstanding in a livestream done specifically made to address his misinterpreted statements, but you're still going to ignore that.
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>>380954972
>Tabata's also in pursuit of a Final Fantasy that's not as overwhelming as its predecessors, and one that can be enjoyed by a broader audience.
And yet it hasn't even sold the launch Day 1 shipment. How ironic. Meanwhile Atlus outsold Persona 4 by three times by simply focusing on making a great game. Tabata being a businessman disguised as a director doesn't understand that.
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>>380953075
I don't think it would have been impossible, XII is god tier, and XV had the potential to be amazing, if they still made sprite games on hand-helds no one would have been as mad as the way they went
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>>380954776
>Nomuracuck still sperging this shitpost while ignoring XV already has vulnerable states on the ground anyway.
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>>380954923
>there is no proof so that's proof
Amazed by this xv-kun character.
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>>380955121
Sakaguchi didn't do shit on FF7, he left the project to work on Chrono trigger.
He was kept in the credits out of respect, these are established facts.

It's not some fanfic you can type out of your ass faggot.
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>>380954776
>kh3 had a new trailer a few days ago
>everyone already forgot about it
kek
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>>380953013
there was this interview done a while ago after Kingom Hearts was done where Nomura said he didn't really play games and the whole thing was just new to him, but he's since said that he's played through a couple games to get more experience.
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>>380955348
It's E3, you absolute mong. Also, that's not even remotely true.
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It will be another science fiction/fantasy blend

They posted some pictures on their Terra Battle streams:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03mctPjvXu0
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>>380954834
why does kh3 look like babbys first ue4 fangame?
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>>380955339
the details of a game's development is not 100% covered by information that was given through interviews over time. sakaguchi was the producer of the game. if you dont think he played a big part in the shaping of the game, then you are very stupid and im sorry for you
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>>380955348
>>everyone already forgot about it

>>380910494
>>380947009
>>380948725
>>380944390
>>380916947
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>>380954834
i dont know why khfags even still try
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>>380953465
Competent but we wanted more than competence, we wanted someone with vision, it's like when your Dad told you to go clean the garage and you took your time to get everything neat and organize and you were planning stuff out but you took to much time so he would just barge in and do it for you, throwing random junk and garbage along with the tools and leave everything disorganized and not know where anything actually is, you could say he's competent and got the job done but really you could argue that you were better of had you just left it alone.
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>>380953013
Tabata Thank You For Destroyed Game
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>>380955471
You're thinking of Mario Odyssey. KH3 actually looks good
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>>380955547
yes we wanted more than competence, there was 10 years of hype for a new mainline FF game. of course the hype had no chance of being met. things get worse when SE higher ups fuck over the development after nomura lost his way, none of that is tabata's fault. creating a "competent" game under tabata's circumstances is very admirable.
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>>380955348
>FFXV had like 3 trailers
>nobody talked about it
>at all
>people are still discussing Kingdom Hearts RIGHT NOW
really makes you think
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>>380954869
>>380954886
>>380954893
KHfag samefagging desperate fucking lol
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>>380955514
Dude, SAKAGUCHI HIMSELF FUCKING SAID IT.

HE LEFT, early in the games development to work on chrono fucking trigger, he did not do SHIT for FF7 other than write the base concept which isn't even the base for the story in the final product.

The development of FF7 has been detailed multiple times, because IT'S FUCKING FF7, the most popular jrpg ever.

We know exactly WHO wrote WHAT and WHEN.

Fuck off already.
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>>380955718
you do this every fucking time what the fuck is wrong with you
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>>380954893
>>380954886
>>380954869
No one can be this blind.

>>380954932
0.2 aqua looks like shit and why would that somehow be more valid than comparing final game xv to the latest build of KH3?
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>>380955706
it's just different priorities, if your a businessman you have this philosophy to get things done, if your an artist that doesn't always get priority and you often get shit on by people who don't get people who don't prioritize that.
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Holy fucking shit XV is a trainwreck. The only impressive thing about that game is how well SE PR masked the failure. Tabata took the greatest JRPG of all time and turned it into a Ubisoft game because he has zero vision or integrity.
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>>380955706
Wasting development time and resources on shit like fishing, carnivals, food, anime and movie tie-ins, costumes, rocks, and more pointless shit besides instead of actually making the core game good is "competent"? You are hilarious. Truly.
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>>380954834
Besides the fact Sora's face is fucked, KH3 looks better. So many blurry textures and shit-tier lighting in that FFXV screenshot compared to that KH3 one.
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>>380955767
please cite your source for sakaguchi stating "i didnt do shit on final fantasy vii, they just put my name in to be nice"

and even if he didnt have FFVII, it doesn't take away the other several high-tier FF games he produced as well.
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>>380955718
You've been samefagging this entire thread Barry. Like, you do in every thread. I've gotten used to your formula by now.

>post webm/image
>reply to it almost immediately, multiple times pretending to be other people in an attempt to validate your opinions.

You're very transparent. I see this trend in every thread.
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>>380955823
because i can compare the latest build of xv from 2015 to the latest build of KH3 and XV would look like complete shit.

Did you forget all the shitposting anti-kun did with all his images that showed pre-beta XV looking like shit?

Does XV look anything like prebeta XV? no it looks 1000 times better.

Stop trying to shit on KH with such dirty shitty tactics, you have become the "anti-kun" of kh at this point, xv-kun.
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>>380956019
>at this point
kek
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>>380955872
if you don't think the core FFXV video game itself isnt MASSIVELY impressive for a 2 year dev cycle, then you are not very bright and that is unfortunate. everything else is shit and doesnt matter nearly as much
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>>380956078
You mean 3 years.
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I know Sakaguchi's not responsible for this at all but why does Squeenix ignore the Chrono series?
FF got like 50 installments, Chrono only 3
They could at least make a Cross remake
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>>380956078
>>380956146
You mean 4 years plus reusing concepts and assets from the prior 6 years spent on Versus

/our guy/ xv-kun made sure everyone knows it's exactly the same game with the same animations and every plot detail being exactly the same! :^)
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>>380956078
Ubisoft shits out open world games with the level of quality as XV every year
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>>380956078
They were on that shit since 2012. They had more resources and time than 99% of AAA devs. Don't blame the deadline Tabata pissed all that away on demos and trailers and last-minute rewrites.
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>>380956210
>/our guy/ xv-kun made sure everyone knows it's exactly the same game with the same animations and every plot detail being exactly the same! :^)

kek cheeky anon
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>>380956210
>/our guy/ xv-kun made sure everyone knows it's exactly the same game with the same animations and every plot detail being exactly the same! :^)
ICE

COLD
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>>380956210
SAVAGE
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>>380956247
2013 was when the name change was announced. at the the time of that announcement, nomura was director, and a playable game did not exist. the trailer was a CG movie with a UI.
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>>380956078
>Turned big event bosses into QTE borefests
>QTE guards and autododging
>hold-button combat with little variation (the occasional pause-combo move, and some generally awful d-lefts).
>No launchers
>Made magic less a tool and more a "skip boring fights" button.
>First FF since FF9 to use boring cutscene summons, and managed to make them even worse with them activating in dumb ways.
>The main mixup is teamattacks which are more basic than KH2's Limits, and also lack the resource management, so are just spammable iframes.
>Item usage is straight dumb, when they not only got this right back in KH1, but also in 13 LR.
>Forces the player to reach for outside information to understand story and lore.
>Luminous engine is unstable.
>Ugly hair textures with poor aliasing.
>Sidequests = MMO-tier fetch quests.
>Shortest Final Fantasy game on record by story length alone.
>Hallway dungeons
>Worst driving controls in an open world game since Driv3r.
>No environmental variety
>Broken mess of a story.

Yes, MASSIVELY impressive video game you have there.
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>>380954972
So you're lying about it being one button, because there's various buttons for different actions. You're deliberately ignoring his statement where he cleared up what he meant while you keep clinging to his misinterpreted statement. You can tap o button to attack and only get manual finishers from tapping, move lstick for directional inputs, tap triangle for warp, r1+triangle for warp strike, square for dodge roll or use shields with square to block, x to jump, dpad directions for on the fly weapon switching, jump and attack for aerial combos etc.

You're full of shit and in denial while trying to cling to a statement that was already cleared up with his follow up statememt from the ATR.

>>380955182
What the fuck are you even talking about? FFXV broke even and has made a profit since. It's initial shipment was 5m in December, then in January an additional 1m was shipped out because it's physical units were almost depleted and stores requested more, it sold out the initial 5m shipment by february, plus adding digital sales to the 5m+ sales it's over 6m sales ww. Triple what P5 sold.
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>>380956398
>a playable game did not exist
It did and it was a prototype, they showed the next day.

It's called XV 2013 GAMEPLAY TRAILER.

It was in real time, fps drops and all. Fuck off.
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>>380956398
Tabata was brought on-board in 2012. He was co-director there and then.
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>>380955337
Guess you ignored how Sakaguchi said he refused to play FF12. But hey you can't post proof he gave 13 or 14 his GOTY, and that's simply because he didn't, meanwhile he did for XV
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>>380956398
kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTQ2C978xVc
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>>380955348
lol i know right?
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>>380955519
notice how only one of those posts is kh3 and was probably you trying to shill it
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>>380956601
>he opens the magic menu and there is the spell FIRE written in Japanese
>he then instantly closes it and proceeds to dodge the iron giant

What the fuck, show the fucking spell.

Also why the fuck did Armiger look and played so much better there? what the fuck.
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>>380956601
I did forget about this. however this is not a game. this is a single room with enemies, and a character you can move around with. the "combat" way in no way playable at this point in time.

and even if this really was a 100% playable level that worked perfectly, clearly NOTHING about this was used for the final game except for visual assets
>>380956746
because they didnt have to create it so that it would function during regular gameplay. they simply animated it for this specific clip to be in a trailer
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>>380956715
The KH3 trailer clearly created renewed interest in the series which is why there have been so many threads showing up recently. Of course, you can tell yourself it's just a coincidence
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>>380955658
Holy shit that looks so fucking bad.
Why is everything plastic? why is there no proper shadows?
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>>380956795
>clearly NOTHING about this was used for the final game except for visual assets

of course, Tabata said himself that the combat was at first similar to Kingdom Hearts but he changed it.

He also said himself that this was real gameplay and not mocked up, he was the one responsible for creating the prototype.

It was real.
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>>380956795
>it doesn't count!!!!!!!!
Keep digging your whole deeper there. Also, you have forgot to explain what is MASSIVELY impressive about Tabata's 10 hour Ubisoftâ„¢ experience
>clearly NOTHING about this was used for the final game
So you admit that Tabata is incompetent? Indeed that trailer contains mechanics and animations that were way better than anything in the final game.
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>>380955710
KHdrones are literally this delusional
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>>380956968
Why don't you make an FFXV thread about the new trailers and see how it goes then?
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>>380955867
KHfag it's OK you're in denial that XV is better than versus ever would have been, you don't have to cry.
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>>380957019
it will have 30 UNIQUE ips and 500 posts of xv-kun samefagging.
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>>380955914
The lighting, textures, geometry, detail and aesthetic of KH3 looks like utter fucking shit compared to that XV shot
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>>380953831
I can never fully trust a man who claims he likes half-life
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>>380955872
Jesus christ you really are talking out of your ass.

>>380955947
Oh the fucking irony.
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>>380956019
Any build of XV still looks better than KH3 so I'm not even sure what the fuck autism you're on about.
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Open world FFT-alike
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>165 Replies
>36 Posters
Stop sucking cocks FFXV-fag.
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>>380956932
your perception of video game development is very very misguided. tabata was essentially a janitor, he didnt create the game with his own 2 hands exactly how he wanted it to be. he managed to take a mess that didnt even have a clear script for its plot after 10 years "development" and took 2 years to form a functional open world action RPG out of it. you act as though comparing this to the clean and comfortable development of an ubisoft game is a bad thing. you know nothing about video game development or design.
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>>380957235
The time has come again for me to remind them
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>>380954205
they never had a chance, the mentality that they had to design their own engine for every game they made was a product of the PS2 era where that mentality more or less did them good in all their games, borrowing engines was for the west and smaller companies, only now that it's compleltey blew up in their faces and they actually gave a third party engine a shot did they realize all the time wasted, it was all just culture difference.
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>>380957305
> 2 years
>doubling down on your retardation after being proven wrong
Nice.
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>>380956210

Having animation and design concepts from 2011 still used means nothing when every single asset was created from scratch AFTER the 2013 trailer was shown. Even all the animations were touched up to incorporate the additional bones in the character models to make it look smoother than it did before.
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>>380956218
Ubisoft games have 1000 devs working on their games, compared to XV which had only 200-400. And no.
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>>380956247
Tabata only took over in December 2013.

Nomura was still in charge in 2012 and all through 2013 up till December.
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>>380957376
>proven wrong
i bet you think FFIX is the best FF game, too!
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>>380954776
my only wish is that it the combat looks a little less Birth by Sleep'ish by the end, command slots are fine for PSP KH but console KH shoudn't be working off of skills and final attacks that work automatically of the last couple of skills you did, give the player the chance to pull those off whenever he wants.
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>>380957545
>all through 2013 up till December.

Nomura wasn't in the Final Fantasy committee, therefore he stopped being the director sometime BEFORE October of 2013.
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>>380956435
Fuck off SBK91.
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>>380957545
He was fucking co-director in 2012 with a full AAA dev team. Stop spinning.
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>>380956483
That was a tech demo set only in the citadel in insomnia, they only mixed clips of that into the trailer. The Altissia stuff from 2013 was all fake CGI with a UI put on it.
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>>380957559
What does FFIX have to do with FFXV being developed for more than 2 years?
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>>380956601
You know he was talking about the Altissia stuff right?
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>>380957927
you think its the best, dont you?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBR3CcJslC4

Could it be?

No probably not
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>>380957954
>at the the time of that announcement, a playable game did not exist
>>
XV was developed in six months by Tabata, blessed be his name, who singlehandedly saved FF by making the worst rated FF game in series history.
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>>380956472
I'm not even the person you were arguing to about hold one button to win.
>You can tap o button to attack and only get manual finishers from tapping, move lstick for directional inputs, tap triangle for warp, r1+triangle for warp strike, square for dodge roll or use shields with square to block, x to jump, dpad directions for on the fly weapon switching, jump and attack for aerial combos etc.

>"move lstick for directional inputs"
>"x to jump"
lmao
>"I-if i make it sound verbose, then maybe it'll seem like it isn't a dumbed down combat system for literal brain dead children!"
You can make any game sound deep by making it verbose.

None of what you posted disproves what Tabata says. The mistranslation only applies to one button to win. Statements like:
>"I myself am not getting any younger. I don't want to be frantically pushing buttons. I also want to utilise the intelligence of the hardware spec, and not have to go through too much hassle or trouble in order to execute moves."
and
>"Tabata's also in pursuit of a Final Fantasy that's not as overwhelming as its predecessors, and one that can be enjoyed by a broader audience. "With Final Fantasy 15, I do want to make it more casual,"
and
"There's an option to set that car to drive itself, allowing players to sit back and take in the sights "
are not mistranslations as they are evident in the game
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>>380957625
Finishers and styles/drives work through situational commands now, so you'll never be forced into them. I'm assuming you haven't played 0.2 yet but it works the same way there so it's worth picking up to try it out if you can get it for cheap.
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>>380958024
Hmmmm what was the last mainline FF before this?.. oh yeah, 4/10. And even before that, would anyone really argue that XIII is better than XV?
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>>380957019
>dlc for characte
>mainline entry new game
>somehow comparable
Man you're desperate
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>>380958024
Six months was confirmed to be an overestimate, the game was actually developed in three weeks. Based Tabata!
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>>380956932
What the fuck are you even trying to argue? First of all XV is as long as you want it to be because of all the post game content and side content, secondly how is anything there better than what's in the final game?
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>>380958149
3 weeks including the pre-production phase, it was actually 1 week and 13 hours of sleepless non stop working, not even for food or water.

By the way Hajime Tabata-sama didn't even get payed for all his glorious work, he did it for free for all of us.
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>>380957310
And yet that old pic of xv looks better than this old pic of kh3
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>>380958402
And yet it does not.
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>>380951713
Whatever it is, I hope it's on the Switch.
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>>380952756
Didn't he wanted to be a rapper?
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>>380958284
You can experience all you need to in FFXV including dungeons, without diving into padded late-game fetchquest territory in 25 hours.
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>>380958950
Might be lower than average for FF, but that's actually pretty long. AND you're exaggerating
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>>380957694
No, he stopped being director in December 2013. Ferrari stated Nomura left XV in December 2013, Ferrari said that's also when he left FFXV, and Tabata has stated he became the director in December 2013. The business divisions of SE were also put into play in december 2013 when SE restructured the whole company.

Nomura not being on the FF commity means literally nothing.

>>380957786
Nomura was the director in 2012 through to December 2013, Tabata was only co-director from 2012 through to December 2013 and took over as director in December 2013. You're the one desperately trying to spin shit.

Tabata stated when he joined in 2012 he was requested to lead a prototype build, that prototype was the insomnia footage at the citadel we saw in E3 2013. The Altissia stuff and the other stuff in the 2013 trailer was stuff Nomura lead, with the Altissia stuff being fake CGI mocked up to look like gameplay, and Nomura mixed in some footage of the insomnia prototype build that Tabata was leading into his trailer.

In July 2013 they then started merging the game into luminous engine where it was at the time using ebony engine, aka a heavily modified crystal tools. Then in December 2013 Nomura left.

In December 2013 the company restructured with FFXV being made by BD2 with Tabata heading that division too, KH3 by BD3 with Nomura being in BD3 and Hashimoto heading that division.

In 2014 they migrated all Luminous engine devs to the FFXV team which is why they stopped using it for KH3 on Luminous, all luminous devs were moved to BD2 to finish the engine and game alongside each other instead of it being spread between multiple games, so KH3 restarted on UE4 in 2014, FF7R also started around this time in 2014 by BD1 headed by Kitase also with UE4.

It is standard practice to finish a game engine alongside a game, and for XV they did that with luminous which is a finished engine as of December 2016.
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>>380958020
Yeah and he obviously was referring to the Altissia stuff since that's the 2013 trailer people think of straight away. The insomnia stuff was just a tech demo.

An actual full "game" didn't exist, a tech demo did and some fake mocked up CG pretending to be a game did.
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>>380958024
You mean best FF to date. Nice denial.
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>>380959659
An actual full "game" doesn't exist until release, or in the case of FFXV 2 years after release.
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>>380958053
I'm not making anything sound verbose, I'm describing basic combat functions in the game which you're trying to ignore or pretend don't count because you're a fucking idiot who is still hung up on this "just hold o to win" meme.

But hey you literally ignored what he said in the ATR to counter that mistranslation
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>>380953013
>advocate for PC

Please Tabata, let your vision reign in Square-Enix.
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>>380958453
Yet it does

>>380958950
No you cannot.
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>>380951713
Do you think SAKA GUCHI is sad at the state of FF after the last good one FF9? Do you think he is depressed like me inside|?? I would commit sudoku with sakaguchi
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>>380959927
And yet no FFXV PC.

More empty talk from Tabata the SE puppet.
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>>380959936
>Yes it does
Please, do explain how.
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>>380959787
A full game does exist, XV has a start, middle and ending that wraps up the story. No amount of denial from you will change that fact. Them doing patches and adding side content doesn't change that it already is a full game.
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>>380960150
It'll come after all the DLC are released, which will be packed in one ultimate edition for PC.
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>>380952509
He's voiced by Lenne Hardt too so he sounds like Axl from Megaman X7
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>>380960150
He showed XV on PC at GDC with graphical upgrades, and they are obviously waiting until all the DLC is out before releasing the PC version
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>>380960153
I think he's one of those guys that thinks a cartoon aesthetic means it looks worse.
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>>380953134
waitaminutethatsword
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>>380960527
He is. He's also the type that thinks turn-based automatically means it's shit and that action based is better because more inputs
>>
Goddamnit you complete assholes. This place is such a shithole that you'd rather argue about Nomura and Tabata than celebrate a game announcement. Fuck all y'all.
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>>380952394
>probably faps to shota porn
I feel that like that's some major projection from whoever made this image
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>>380960153
Is that supposed to look good or somehow better than ffxv?
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>>380951713
It's going to be some confusing and weird and ultimately misguided attempt to reinvent the JRPG.
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>>380960769
Follow the reply chain.
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>>380960283
>>380960339
Oh based Tabata, blue balling us for a whole year with the promise that we might get some useless DLC with our purchase.

Again, all talk no show with this massive hack. He should've never been allowed to touch anything major after how he fucked up Parasite Eve.
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>>380960527
No I'm one of those guys who can clearly see KH3 has worse character models, lighting, textures, detail and aesthetic compared to FFXV.
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>>380953134
What other Cry On concept art was there? I only recall this girl with VI on her forehead
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>>380960937
But he showed FFXV on PC, and obviously the higher ups are forcing him to wait for the DLC to come out before he does the PC version. This is standard and clear higher up interference.

Just like with type0HD on PC in February 2015 he was asked about it and had to say no plans, then it came out in March then in may announced the PC version because he was allowed to then.

It's clear as day he wants to put it on PC but the higher ups aren't letting him announce it yet, which is why he's doing round about ways to show FFXV on PC and nod to it.
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Please be Switch game so I have more reasons to justify buying one other than Mario and Xenoblade.
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>>380951713
Crystal Chronicles 2 please
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>>380961501
Crystal chronicles 2 for Switch
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>>380961478
So again, all talk no show? That's all Tabata is. Making big promises, and then he blames it on other people for failing that. He's not some PC lover. He's just another spokesperson trying to sugarcoat everything he does in nice words. If he cared about PC he would've released the PC version with the PS4 version. But no, Tabata loves PC so much that he delayed it for a whole year+
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>>380955767

Chrono trigger was over though, you are retarded
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>>380961651
This is the dumbest shit you could have said
They're taking their time because they're doing the DLC stuff first and he said he wants the PC version to be technically superior to the console version and use things they had to drop because of comsole limitations. He can't officially announce a PC version yet because his higher ups wont let him. Tabata is literally the head of business division 2 which is also the advanced technology division at SE which is why he's PC focussed. He again already has showcased FFXV on PC with improved graphics and assets at GDC in March a few months ago with XV running on a GTX1080ti, and also already said he wants his new IP to make use of the latest tech with PC, he recently even showed an in engine version of Kingsglaive assets with Nyx running in luminous engine in real time at GTC, which only insanely expensive rig could run, so I'm not even sure what the fuck you're talking about.
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>>380962439
>bla bla fucking bla

He can brag and talk all he wants. He can even demo his wife's fat ass if he wants to. Fact of the matter is that there's still no FFXV PC version because Tabata is a hypocrite and a two-faced liar who wants to appear as everyone's best friend when in truth he's just a corporate tool.
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>>380958149
That shit looks so jaggie and blurry that it fucking hurts my eyes. Also the lack of art direction, and the plain 'realistic setting' looks boring as fuck.
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>>380963219
FFXV had no direction. Its so-called director was just doing whatever he read on online surveys and what his SE bosses told him. This is why the game looks like five games in one. He was randomly picking up pieces all over the place shoving it all into one game. This has to be one of the most clueless directions in modern videogames. And honestly very surprising for a Japanese game who tend to proud themselves on strong director figures to carry the creative process.
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>>380962439
>he said he wants the PC version to be technically superior

That isn't hard thing to do, to be honest, considering that the console version. even on pro. looks like utter shit.
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>Thread about Sakaguchi's new game announcement
>some disgusting loser with absolutely zero life crying about the turd that is FF15 posts in it
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>>380963501
To this day still amaze me how ugly and unappealing Altissia looks in XV.
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>>380951713
It wil be the usual half assed JRPG with nothing interesting in it besides the music.

But I'm more worried about who's going to design and oversee the game, and I sure hope it's not Sakaguchi, the man can't design anything else than cinematic RPGs with garbage gameplay.
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Imagine Sakaguchi making another classic turn based JRPG similar to old FFs with Uematsu doing OST. I'd start playing "FF" again.
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>>380963947
the bottom image is from Ps4 Pro? damn, i was looking to buy this game when i get PS4Pro
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>>380961158
>character models
different artstyle
>lighting
no
>textures no
>detail
no
>aesthetic
lmao
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>it's a FFXV-kun ruins another thread with his autism episode
How the fuck has he not been rangebanned yet? This is fucking ridiculous now.
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>>380951713
It's a mobile game
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>>380952589
Because he can't finish any fucking games anymore. I guarantee you the FF7 remake will get yanked away from him just like FF15. The only reason they haven't yanked him off KH3 is because the dude would legitimately kill him self if that happened because that series is his "baby." This dude is seriously a Kojima level waste of money.
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>>380966732
>Because he can't finish any fucking games anymore
With the obvious exception of xv, his track record says otherwise
>inb4 but those upcoming games were announced years ago!
SE does that, so have a lot of other companies recently
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>>380952394
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I hope we get to see her again.
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>see this thread
>it turns into exactly what i expected it to
How does he do it everytime
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>>380954667
God, I know that feeling all too well.
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>sakaguchi announces a new game
>/v/ should be excited, discussing potential games
>turns into a nomura vs. tabata shit thread
Why
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>>380969174
aussie autism
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>>380966118
please stop. I know it's possible it is but some faggot on Twitter is not a good source. Stop spamming this as if it's fact until afterwards, thanks
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>>380968268
Same here. FFXVI with a gorgeous lead female that is actually likeable.
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>>380951713
Inb4 mobile game
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>>380952394
>Save FF from Nomura
>Dude never direct nor produce FF game
>Only work as Character, Monster design, and Visual director of the series.

Did you confuse KH with FF?
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>>380951713
>ffxv-2
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>>380951713
>Gooch
He's doing a good job as a top guy in company but as producer and director, he suck.
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>>380970325
lost oddysey was great, blue whatever was received well, and terra battle, while not my cup of tea was well received by mobile fans. And yes, he's a great team manager. sakaguchi knows how to bring out the best in people.

As long as he never becomes an ego inflated nut like kojima, I'll always have faith in him
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>>380970871
>lost oddysey was great
wat
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>>380970871
>like Kojima
Well, at one point he's worse than Kojimbo, remember SW?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03mctPjvXu0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3zTlEC3TwU
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>>380965135
IP change.
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>>380970961
at least he had the decency to actually make a movie instead of making his games into one. and when that flopped, he stopped (or was stopped)

>>380970953
>implying it wasn't
kill yourself faggot
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>>380951713
Is he going to produce it or direct it? He's far, far better as a director than anything else.
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>>380971196
>As a director
ehhh
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>>380971253
The series went to shit the instant he stopped directing. That's not a coincidence.
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>tfw Nojima is an actual guy
>tfw I thought people were just combining the names of Kojima and Nomura to draw parallels between how they're both bad
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>>380952589
>Nomura has never (read: NEVER) directed an FF game.
Thank God, otherwise we'd still be waiting for FF7 Chapter 1... and I'm NOT talking about the remake!
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>>380971183
He is your so called Ego inflated nut at the time even his leggy called him out for the whole shit show. Your hero is a fraud, deal with it, Jim.
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>>380971327
>Stopped directing at 5
>Critical reception and sales suddenly skyrocket
ok son
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>>380970994
>looks promising
>also looks like potential mobile shit

please no
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>>380971327
6 and 7 weren't directed by him.
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I hope Mistwalker keeps using the Drakengard/Terra Battle artist.

Guy makes some cool stuff. Even if it's overly detailed.
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>>380971327
sorry bro, I love sakaguchi as much as anyone else but I do think he is better as a producer or co- director. He's a great team manager and it's wonderful when he has the final say so but there are better directors.

>>380971394
What the fuck are you talking about, autist?
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>>380970871
>lost oddysey was great
As long as you like bloated "RPGs" mechanically stuck in the 90s, I guess.
>blue whatever was received well
Blue Dragon was hardly received well and most of the momentum it got was from Toriyama doing the art and Sakaguchi and Uematsu's names plastered on it, after people played the game they all realized it was yet another generic JRPG, like many others you could find in the market
>while not my cup of tea was well received by mobile fans
Mobile fans are a thing now?
>And yes, he's a great team manager
He's a terrible team manager, if you actually took your time to play through Squaresoft's library and do some research you'll notice how most of the actually great titles Square produced aren't related to Sakaguchi, you'll also notice how many of these titles also got butchered by Sakaguchi's terrible management and inflated ego, see Xenogears or the first SaGa Frontier.
Sakaguchi is a good marketer and a great talent scout, he's always got a nose for finding extremely talented people, but as an actual director or manager he's absolutely terrible and should be barred from handling any project, lest he drives it into the ground, much like he did with Mistwalker.
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>>380971436
VI barely did better than V by any metric when you adjust for the fact that VI came out overseas and V didn't until the PS1 and VII had a fucking 100 million dollar marketing budget.
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>>380971549
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>>380971617
>Sakaguchi is a good marketer and a great talent scout, he's always got a nose for finding extremely talented people
This guy get it.
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>>380971617
>lost oddysey and blue Dragon were typical jrpgs
And? That's what sakaguchi fans want. Let me guess, you're the fag who goes into Dragon quests threads and shit on the series for "not evolving". Fuck off.
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>>380971617
FFV is Sakaguchi right?
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>>380971839
>That's what sakaguchi fans want

This is actually true for me. Gimme more LO and I'll be happy.
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>>380971436
>>380971625
>Gooch
>Direct FFV
That's legendary Jarnitor Hiroyuki Ito's work, Gooch last FF as Director is FFIV.
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>>380972023
Wrong. That guy took over as director at VI.
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>>380971617
sakaguchi:

>director of ff1-ff5
>producer of ff6
>supervisor of crono trigger (he's the one who got the team's approval to actually make the game)
>production supervisor of smrpg
>producer of ff7
>producer of xenogears
>producer of parasite eve
>executive producer of ff8
>executive producer of legend of mana
>producer of front mission 3
>producer of vagrant story
>producer of ff9
>producer of ff10
>producer of kh
>executive producer of ffxi

>received tributes and honor from all FF directors, claiming he is their hero and mentor

You're a fucking idiot
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>>380972279
Just listing off credits doesn't mean much. For instance, he barely did anything on FF7 .
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>>380972279
Are you dumb, did you even fully read the anons post
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>>380972406
yes I did:
>He's a terrible team manager, if you actually took your time to play through Squaresoft's library and do some research you'll notice how most of the actually great titles Square produced aren't related to Sakaguchi

That's fucking wrong. Sakaguchi was apart of every great square game in that era. And if you morons would actually read interviews by the directors, you would see that sakaguchi had much more input than your typical producer. Sakaguchi always found time to help them on their projects
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>>380972670
>That's fucking wrong.
No it's kind of accurate
>Sakaguchi was apart of every great square game in that era
Having your name slapped on as EP for a lot of these titles is not that big of a deal
>you would see that sakaguchi had much more input than your typical producer
We're talking about sakaguchi as director and team manager
>Sakaguchi always found time to help them on their projects
Except when he was making his shit movie.
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This thread is the reason nobody buys JRPGs anymore.
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>>380972670
Just Stop. It isn't 1997 anymore. We have the internet and we have resources, and what people have uncovered is that Sakaguchi was a hack who never did much for most of the games he was credited for. Lost Odyssey was also trash. Just accept it and move on, I felt much better when I did.
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>>380973048
>it's kinda accurate
tell me, what great square games did sakaguchi have ZERO involvement in?
>>380973048
>we're talking about him as director and team manager
1) no we're not, we're talking about his involvement in square games.
2) as producer, he was team manager over most of their productions at the time.
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>>380971839
>And? That's what sakaguchi fans want.
Good for you if that's the case, but that hardly make LO or BD good games for anyone but Sakaguchi fans.
>you're the fag who goes into Dragon quests threads and shit on the series for "not evolving"
I don't go into DQ threads because I don't like DQ and have zero interest in that series for many reasons, DQ did evolve in its own contest though and also tried to do very interesting things like having a generational structure or build a continuity between many games, so I can't really back up that claim, it's much better than FF in that sense, at least DQ never lost its identity and kept building on it instead of becoming something completely different in order to stay relevant.
>>380972279
Cool beans, too bad he did barely any work on most of those unlike other producers or directors at Square.
>>received tributes and honor from all FF directors, claiming he is their hero and mentor
And what does that amount to exactly?
>>380972670
>Sakaguchi was apart of every great square game in that era
Just to take a few out of your list
>producer of xenogears
He had zero input on this outside of slashing its budget and development time for FFVIII, such a great decision!
>producer of parasite eve
Nomura had more relevance in the game's development than fucking Sakaguchi, and so did he for PE2 which was a much better game than the first without Sakaguchi having anything to do with it
>executive producer of legend of mana
Again, zero input, the game was made by Ishii and Kawazu, Sakaguchi had no relevance other than giving the greenlight
>producer of front mission 3
Still zero input and FM3 is widely regarded as the worst FM title and a huge stepback from 2, so I wouldn't really be too happy of having my name on it.
>producer of vagrant story
Which got butchered in both story and gameplay.
All the rest is FF and two largely overrated games, you say those are the greatest Squaresoft games but I see no SaGa, Einhander etc.
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>>380973048
>we're talking about sakaguchi as director and team manager
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>>380973287
>>380973384
Did you two retards enter this conversation halfway through
>>380970325
>but as producer and director, he suck.
>>380971617
>He's a terrible team manager
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>>380973357
>>380973268
>>380973048
>>380972350
>>380972406
>>380971617
legit question: if you guys think he's such a hack, why are you in this thread about him releasing a new game?
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>>380972670
>Read the interview
Yup, still remember how to got called out for being an arrogant ass bastard by his peer.
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>>380973527
They're probably in a bad mood and decided to browse /v/ and need something to vent.
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>>380973527
>Get out of my hugbox
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>>380953403
Sakaguchi is better at handling projects and getting shit done. The only issue with the guy is that he can sometimes be too ambitious as the FF movie nearly sinked the company. Nomura can also be as ambitious, but he sucks at finishing projects. As Anons said, he was responsible for the materia system. Sakaguchi's role in FFVI is in no way minor. Here's from an old interview with 1-UP.

>1UP: From there, you took a much bigger role with FFVI. Can you talk about what you wanted to accomplish with this game?

>YK: With FFVI, my role was similar to what it had been with FFV, except that the volume of the game grew once again exponentially. So the team of people working on the event scenes and scenario side grew to about four or five. And, of course, Sakaguchi was the director and had primary control overseeing those aspects of the game as well. But he'd also become very busy at that time after becoming vice-president of the company and had a lot of other projects going on. He couldn't put 100% into FFVI, so I took charge of more of those event scenes.

Sakaguchi isn't an Inafune, and /v/ wants to find the next Inafune just as /v/ wants the next TORtanic all for memes as shitpostinf. For one, he doesn't rely on Kickstarters to fund his games. Secondly, his co-workers respect him unlike with Inafune. Eraqus was based off of Sakaguchi, so Nomura has a ton of respect for him.

Will Sakaguchi's next game be good? I hope, but he hasn't made a proper RPG in a while.
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>>380973527
I don't think he's a hack, especially when he never really meddled in actual game design after the first few FF(who were still done mostly by the actual talented designers of Square, so Tanaka, Kawazu, etc.), so we hardly have any grounds to judge him when 90% of the work is done by other people.

I'm just saying that he's more of a marketer and figurehead for games rather than an actual designer, and that he's not nearly as competent in handling projects like someone here wants to believe, he's more or less the same as Inafune, except that even Inafune gets his hands dirty working on game design more than him.
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>>380973527
>>380973587
>Came to /v/
>Expect people to play nice
It's fun to beat the dead horse desu.
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>Tabata haters still salty over the fact he LITERALLY saved the FF franchise

Square-Enix were shitting bricks about XV's potential sales, and wondering if it was even worth continuing the series. Tabata rode in, saved XV, and it more than exceeded the sales dreams of SE

Whoever ends up making XVI, XVII and beyond, you have based Tabata to thank
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>>380973519
are you retarded? >>380970325 directly references him sucking as producer and this faggot: >>380973048, says he didn't have hands on most of squares hits back then and then decides to move the goal posts when someone lists the games he produced. How about you pay attention, nigga.

>>380973568
You keep saying this yet you haven't mentioned who or any details. source?
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>>380973918
""""""""""""""saved"""""""""""""""""""
Yeah, Mobile shit makes more money than what a mainline game could have ever hope for and Square Enix has over 10 of them
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>>380973357
What's up SaGa-kun? Sakaguchi the target of your shitposting now?
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>>380973918
>People talk about Sakaguchi
>Weyyyy, people let's talk about Tabata

Fuck off, no body care about him.
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>>380973972
>directly references him sucking as producer
and director. Right after. You are dumb, sir
>says he didn't have hands on most of squares hits back then and then decides to move the goal posts when someone lists the games he produced
Executive Producer is not what you think it is
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>>380973357
>I don't go into DQ threads because I don't like DQ
>let me go into this sakaguchi thread and spew shit everywhere because I don't like sakaguchi
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>>380953134
>>380960537
>>380961385
I like the character designs. The dragon in the first image looks cool. It reminds me of EVA because of its eyes.
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>>380974123
>and director
yes and? The faggot still says in his later post "we're talking about him as director and team manager", as in not talking about him as producer.

Seriously, you're wrong. Fuck off
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>>380974267
Good lord you are stupid
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>>380973357
Saga is garbage though.
>Einhander
>a fucking shmup
This is bait rigtht?
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>>380974346
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>>380974446
irony
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>>380974050
>What's up SaGa-kun?
Who?
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>>380974539
Guy who goes into FF and SMT threads shilling SaGa (shit series with one playable game) while spouting bullshit (like the stuff about Sakaguchi in this thread). He is quickly approaching XV-kun levels of autism

Here more examples of his shit: https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/374959705/#374976341
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/378968376/#378993129
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>>380974750
>He is quickly approaching XV-kun levels
No one can ever touch that retard
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>>380974492
Let me try to break this down for you as simple as possible.

>anon 1 says sakaguchi sucks as a director AND producer

>anon 2 says he doesn't and that he has directed and produced wonderful games

>anon 3 comes in and says the games he directed sucks and that he didn't have much to do with squares best games

>anon 2 lists all the games that sakaguchi directed and produced, which is a shit ton, claiming he was involved in most

>anon 3 decides to move the goal post and say "we're talking about him as director and team manager", implying we're not discussing him as producer

>you, anon retard, step him and spew nonsense

>see anon 1
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>>380974907
Anon 2 sound like a clueless faggot
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>>380975110
see
>>380974446
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>>380974374
>Saga is garbage though.
Bad taste.
>>a fucking shmup
And? Square did or published a lot of great games that weren't RPGs, Bushido Blade is another one, so are Ehrgeiz, Tobal, Internal Section etc.
>>380974750
>Shilling
>for a series that isn't localized in the west since decades
Sounds more like you're finding some boogeyman to use as a defensive tool for people posting shit you don't like.
>He is quickly approaching XV-kun levels of autism
A quick search in the archives show me very little of this SaGa-Kun though whereas Barry is fucking everywhere, seems to me you got some kind of persecution complex and are using someone who might not even be the same person as a scapegoat.
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>>380975167
I wasn't arguing. I was giving an observation
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>>380975274
Didn't see you refuting his claim, saga-kun.
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>>380975274
>he's actually real
Hahahahaha holy shit
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>all these faggots claiming sakaguchi was a hack and didn't do anything
>squares ability to make good games just "coincidentally" went down the shitter when he left
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>>380974374
>Saga is garbage though
Those are fighting words
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>>380951713
Save us Sakaguchi

Square Enix is dead
and now Monolith Soft is dead too

just don't make your game Xbone exclusive
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>>380974374
Shit taste detected.
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>>380975398
>squares ability to make good games just "coincidentally" went down the shitter when he left
The good amount of people that left after he did might have something to with it
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>>380975645
Yes, I wonder why the left?
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>>380975742
the merger :^)
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>>380951713
Ooooh yeah
He was wroking in a port of Terra battle and another game, I hope is the later
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>>380966732
>I guarantee you the FF7 remake will get yanked away from him just like FF15
lul it already has been
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>>380975398
Square did plenty of bad shit when Sakaguchi was in though, see Rudra no Hihou, Bahamut Lagoon, Treasure Hunter G, FM3 and so on.
Besides, Squenix still makes some good games nowadays, it's just FF that's gone down the drain.
>>380975742
They didn't leave because Sakaguchi left the company though, some of them left the company before the SW fiasco for various reasons, some them left during Wada's period, some of the old guard is also still in the company.
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>>380976201
No it hasn't?
He's still directing
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>>380952589
>Nomura has never (read: NEVER) directed an FF game
Nomura and Tabata both co-directed FF15 shortly after it was rebranded, so yes, Nomura did direct 15. And it's fair to say that directing Versus is directing a proto-FF, especially since it was supposed to inhabit the same world as FF13 from day 1.

Fact is, whenever Nomura is put into a managerial position he sucks dick at it. He should have always been a lowly character designer, nothing more.
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>>380963219
Because that's an old as fuck picture from the Japan only demo from before the game was released, not the final game.

>>380963348
>FFXV had no direction.
Yes it did. Why are you comparing the movie Luna to the game Luna which looks different on purpose because everyone looks different? How the fuck is that any different than Samus looking different between Metroid Fusion and Metroid Prime both which came out in the same year?

>>380963501
No, it's among the best looking open world games on console.

>>380963947
>CGI compared to real time rendered
Why are you trying to compare CGI by visual works to something rendered in real time? Do you also cry that FF14 looks nothing remotely like the CGI FMVs at all?
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>>380954834
Everything in FFXV looked like a fucking PS3 game apart from the faces, which had terrible BioWare tier animations anyway.
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>>380976287
>square made some bad games
And? Who said they didn't?
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>>380955348
>FFXV released
>nobody talked about it
top zozzle
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>>380957247
How would that work?
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>>380976287
Bahamut Lagoon is the only one of those I'd call bad because of ultra shitty balance and nonexistent difficulty. Even FM3 is mediocre.
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>>380964718
>different artstyle
XV models are objectively more detailed and higher poly.

>no
Yes

>textures no
>detail no
You must be fucking blind, just look at the texture detail on Cor's face over there compared to any character model in KH3 or KH0.2. You are beyond blind if you think any of the textures in KH are better let alone the models. That's got nothing to do with artstyle either, on an objective level XVs are better.

>lmao
Yeah XV looks a million times better than KH3.
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>>380977092
oh god he's back

why
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>>380977134
who's worse: XV-kun or SaGa-kun?
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>>380977134
Barry likes showing off how stupid he is
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>>380976770
>Everything in FFXV looked like a fucking PS3 game apart from the faces
But that's fucking wrong on every level
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>>380977220
>who's worse
>guy who shits up every JRPG thread ever and ban evades nonstop because he is a literally autistic shitheel
>or guy who likes a series you don't like and doesn't like a series you like

I wonder.
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>>380977220
xv-kun, why is this even a question
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>>380976870
It released and everyone talks about it and have been constantly since it released, begging SE for more content, and talking about it including in this very thread.
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>>380977324
hello SaGa-kun
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>>380977391
>including in this very thread
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>>380977134
>ignores the post so he can shitpost
Oh god why?

>>380977231
Exactly what is wrong about anything I said?

You seriously think KH3 let alone 0.2 has better character models and textures than XV? Prove it.
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>>380977469
>Exactly what is wrong about anything I said?
No one cares what a delusional fanboy has to say
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>>380976870
>this denial
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>>380977220
In this thread SaGa-kun.
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>>380977575
But he's right
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>>380977771
>he
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>>380977575
So you can't counter what I said because you want to shitpost? How is anything I've said "delusional"? Why can't you just admit that you have no fucking argument and are just here to shitpost?
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>>380971694
>>380971549
is that not Yoshida?
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>>380977805
yes?
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>>380977220
Considering one isn't even proved to exist, seeing how I've been called SaGa-Kun and another Anon was already called as such, I'd say Barry.
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>>380977814
>Why can't you just admit that you have no fucking argument and are just here to shitpost?
No that would be you
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>>380977935
>can't counter shit
>better just fallback on the "you're just delusional so no one wants to" shitpost
Man how pathetic.
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>>380977915
Oh shit, they're multiplying
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>>380977935
do you seriously think kh3/0.2 has better character models, textures and graphic than xv?
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>>380977828
It'sKimihiko Fujisaka
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>>380977915
How could you have been called SaGa-kun if that post is your first post in this thread?
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>>380977964
Irony
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>>380978162
And yet you can't counter the argument and literally fell back on the "you're delusional so no one cares" shitpost right here >>380977575

You can't fucking say shit
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>>380977915
>>380978121
BTFO
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>>380978020
anyone who does has a screw loose
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>saga-kun gets agitated

if only the saga series was as vivid as you are right now.
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>>380978121
It's not my first post though, but I'm posting from my phone.
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>>380978229
There's never any point arguing with barry seeing as how considers himself the winner every time he posts
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play something better instead
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>>380978343
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>>380978364
So you ignore the actual argument at hand just so you can shitpost?

Seriously why can't you just post some fucking proof you vapid shit?
>>
End Tale
Last Legend
Ultimate Myth
Concluding Fable
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>>380978364
stop avoiding the question >>380978020
>>
Is Lost Odyssey any good?
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>>380978505
nobody cares autismo stop posting off topic shit
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>>380978458
Because
>barry seeing as how considers himself the winner every time he posts
No point. He's just here to get mad and yell
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>>380978494
Displaced Journey
Geographically Disoriented Travel
404 Hike
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>>380978556
It's great if you like jrpgs.

It's not if you hate th jrpg genre, like XV-kun an SaGa-kun
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>>380978026
Damn, that guy is just as good as Yoshida. Impressive

>faggots have turned a Sakaguchi thread into an FFXV threads
Fuck all of you.
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>>380978561
Stop avoiding the question

do you seriously think kh3/0.2 has better character models, textures and graphic than xv?
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>>380978658
>faggots
Just the same one as usual, for fuck sake
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>>380978580
You mean because you have no argument and you know you are wrong, you aren't even going to even try to make one, yet you are going to still pretend you are the one with the highground? Fuck off with that shit. Either prove yourself right or fuck off. I already posted evidence here for my argument here >>380977092

So why the fuck can't you do the same for yours? Are you literally blind or are you just that fucking desperate to try and shit on FFXV?
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>>380978657
>It's not if you hate th jrpg genre
JRPG isn't a genre.
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>>380954667
i feel this too
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>>380978678
me? sure pal I absolutely think so
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>>380978658
Yeah I like his stuff.

If there's even a Lost Odyssey 2 I'd like to see this guy do the designs. I think Inoue is still suffering from his burnout?
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>>380978658
It's because of the nomuracuck fanboys who started shitting on XV to begin with.
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>>380978746
There is no point arguing, you have already considered yourself the winner
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>>380978658
What do you expect from KH turds? They ruin every thread with their anti FFXV/Tabata agenda.
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>>380978810
And Why's that? back up your claim with visual evidence
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>>380955710
Its like your a female or something
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>>380978678
why are they being compared in the first place
of course the realistic style looks better than cartoon one, who the fuck cares
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>>380978995
here's my evidence
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>>380978863
So you're just going to shitpost and keep pretending you are right without even trying to acknowledge the argumetn made to you. Fuck you are the absolute worst. KH fanboys like you cannot deal with reality and you just completely shut down when presented with facts.
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>>380979058
Because some dumbfuck KH turd tried to seriously argue that KH3/0.2 has better graphics/models/textures than XV without any proof to back himself up what so ever. He got called out and then he started backpedaling by refusing to even acknowledge the post made against him. That's how pathetic KH fanboys are.
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>>380979119
>fanboys like you cannot deal with reality and you just completely shut down when presented with facts.
Irony again
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>>380956435
L2AppreciateBrilliance
Pleb fag cuck boi jones :+)
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>>380979090
Ah so shitposting.
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>>380979297
stop posting off topic shit dick head
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>>380979278
See what I mean? You can't even prove your bullshit and then you just fallback into an endless spiral of shitposts where you spout "no u". I already backed up my argument here >>380977092

And you are just shitposting like a little bitch here >>380977575

So don't even fucking try to pretend you dumb fucks aren't the shitposters here.
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what's with KH fucks always ruining threads?
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>>380952010
Thread should have been over right here, nothing worth even considering
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>>380979470
More irony, just keeps proving what I said earlier. This is boring
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>>380979330
So you're shitposting but are too much of a little bitch to admit it, and now you're trying to act like you have the highground of posting on topic, when you are as engaged in this chain of posts as I am.
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>>380979572
what did you prove?
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>>380979572
Thanks for admitting that you are the one shitposting here.
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>>380979518
They are still triggered that Nomura was taken off XV, so they have to shitpost it any chance they can get and defend Nomura's honor
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>>380979729
That arguing with barry is pointless and predictable. He is clueless and can never take a hint
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>>380979831
but what did you prove
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>>380979953
Do you know how to read sentences or reply chains my man?
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>>380979831
>KH tard shitposts against XV
>Gets called out with visual proof posted against him here >>380977092

>KH tard shitposts even more and doesn't even try to acknowledge he was proven wrong here >>380977575

>KH tard keeps shitposting and failing to make any arguments and just endlessly shitposts in circles, spouting random shit

>Gets called out again and desperately tries to backpedal his way out of it

>KH tard thinks he has the highground bcause he failed to make an argument, and thinks if he just says "durr but barry is predictable lol irony" over and over that he somehow has an argument

And yet once again you have proven you are the complete fucking scum of these threads. You are the problem, not me. You fail to acknowledge anything being said to you because you don't want to acknowledge facts, and you're probably going to cherry pick one part of this post with greentext and then spout "lol irony", and in doing so only proving how much of a vapid piece of shit you are.
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THIS IS A MISTWALKER AND SAKAGUCHI THREAD
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>>380980198
Not an argument.
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>>380980198
Too late, xv-kun made this a xv thread
Again
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>>380980040
Yeah, so why can't you answer his question?
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>>380980198
Blame KH fags. They always ruin any vaguely FF or SE related thread.
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>>380980267
xv-kun and SaGa-kun are the bane of jrpg discussion
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>>380980198
Nomuracucks always try to find excuses to shitpost against ffxv or Tabata, then try blaming it on xv-kun even though they're the ones slinging shit
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baka
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>>380980515
N-NANI?
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>>380980360
>>380980478
>waah mom they said something about my new toy
Nah you know exactly you just come here to ruin shit again. You could easily just close the thread and never come back
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>>380980267
>>380980478
Yep, always the Nomura fanboys starting shit then trying to blame it on XV fans who defend the game in response to them.
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>>380980443
I didn't even know saga-kun was a thing until this thread. Fuck man, everyone's so paranoid I'll probably be called saga-kun or xv-kun next
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>>380980443
Thank god nobody talks about BoF2 or Kattfag would join the fray.
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>>380980606
HAYAI
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>>380980637
there's another one?
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>>380980623
See what I mean? They think it's OK if they shitpost against FFXV as if no one is going to call them out, and then get triggered when people do call them out and play the victim card.
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>blaming each other and arguing over nothing for 400+ posts again
Man any thread that is even remotly related to Square is fucked
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>>380980623
Talk shit get hit little nigger
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>>380980765
>They think it's OK if they shitpost against FFXV
Why the fuck are you here if you're going to cry about shitposting
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>>380980919
Why the fuck are you here if you're going to cry about getting called out for shitposting?
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>>380980795
that's the sad thing, this thread has almost nothing to do with square
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>>380980765
>>380980818
I don't care if it's okay or not. You know how much "shitposting" and disliking games happens here?
I liked the game that doesn't mean i'll spend 24/7 here to check if someone doesn't like it. But you guys are way too far up your own ass anyway. Anytime someone tells you to just stop like a normal human being you'll just go into full autism mode again and call hem names cause for some reason only back and white exists for you guys.
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>>380980919
>waaaah muh cesspool of shit /v/ hates everything do i fit in yet?
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>>380980992
>still just random parroting
You know you just come here to bait shitposts at this point, but your denial is way too big
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>>380951713
>Nobuo Uematsu
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>>380981020
>here to check if someone doesn't like it.
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Why can't you fucking see when someone calls someone else out and that they fail to acknowledge that they are wrong, that that person who doesn't acknowledge it is the one shitposting? Why the fuck are you defending someone who wants to shitpost instead of someone who wants to promote discussion based on facts?
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>>380980992
I wanted to to talk about the new game from gooch but apparently autists like you can't handle themselves
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>>380981047
>waaah daddy he said something about muh game i need to defned it against those bad guys or something will happen
And don't give me your BTFO shit, that just means you come here for shitposting
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>>380981020
>waaah but /v/ is supposed to hate everything that's what i read on plebbit
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This thread went exactly how i expected it to go. Kinda sad
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Reminder that lost odyssey is overrated garbage
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>>380981282
Prove it.
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>>380981167
>promote discussion based on facts?
Funny enough, I've seen xv-kun use himself as a source before and claim he was right because of it
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>>380981252
I never said that, learn to read kiddo.
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>>380981109
You come here just to defend shitposters and ignore any time they get proven wrong, all the while you spout xv-kun memes and other fucking shitposts. Don't even fucking try to pretend you don't.
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>>380981353
Where? Because in this thread I see visual proof being preseted while that's only met with shitposts from your side trying to ignore that visual proof even exists and not even acknowledging the post made.
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>>380981376
that's what you really meant

>kiddo
Hello underage
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>>380981392
Yeah yeah.
There's a difference between "defending" shitposter and just telling other to stop and i mean both sides. Stop being so insecure
>spout xv-kun memes
Okay xv-kun. Jus stop being so retarded, in your eyes anyone who tells you to just ignore shitposts is "defending" them and most of the time they aren't even shitposts just opinions that you don't like
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Maybe try making this thread again in a few hours, OP.
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>>380981565
Oh so you just make your own rules okay. I bet these threads look totally different in your eyes.
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>>380981671
not OP but I will later.
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Let me guess, xv-kun xv one guys reseting his IP 80 times :^) ?
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>>380981526
It was in a thread regarding that xv artist comments regarding the production of versus
xv-kun was getting upset that someone found translations of the guys deleted facebook comments that proved what xv-kun had been saying was wrong. xv-kun couldn't find the original posts so he used himself as reference, basically claiming "this is what he actually said because I read it believe me". What an idiot
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>>380981585
>and just telling other to stop and i mean both sides
But you never do this.

And you trying to fucking act like what I'm saying isn't right is you arguing against me, making you just as bad as the shitposters.

>they aren't even shitposts just opinions that you don't like
I literally do not give a fuck if you think KH3 looks better in your opinion, however on an objective level KH3 does not fucking have better character models, textures or lighting, there is a difference between an opinion and objective facts, and it's dipshit KH fan tards trying to pretend their shitty opinions somehow are objective fact even when posted with proof that proves them wrong like here >>380977092


Also shitpost images like this >>380954054 is not a fucking opinon, it is blatant shitposting, bullshit and lies to try and shill KH3 and to desperately try and make XV look worse. The fact that you think that image is "just an opinion" make you fucking retarded and oblivious. And as you said earlier you tell shitposters to stop? Where were you telling that faggot to stop? Or any of the KH fags to stop in any fucking thread? Oh that's right you don't.
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>>380981898
First of all no.

Some anon posted links to some translated posts of Ferrari from his facebook from an archive post on /v/.

And Ferrari's original post he made in italian was deleted, so only translated version of his posts on the fireden archive and in a neogaf thread remain.

Secondly everything I said was right and I never triedto use "my own post" as proof of anything, I was using the post that was made by Ferrari himself, which anyone who fucking read it back when he made it knew what it said, which is why there was threads about it on /v/ and neogaf at that time, and no where in that did he actually say Versus had 200 devs and XV had only 20, because that goes against the fucking reality that XV had gotten 200 devs when it became XV because they merged the Type-0 team and other devs to form it, and there is more than 20 devs in the Type-0 team anyway so it's impossible for there to have been 200 devs on Versus then only 20 on XV in 2012. Like holy fuck do you not posses basic common sense?
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>>380951713

more mobile shit
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>>380982346
lol xv-kun is doing it again
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>>380952394

they should appoint Ferrari the new official designer at square enix, look at the beauty he made compared to that trash nomura.

italian weebs are the best artists hands down, he wanted cidney to be an airplane pilot and travel around the world seamlessly like nausicaa to help you but NOOOOOO fucking gast station skank said tabata
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>>380982472
Are you seriously fucking braindead?

In 2012 they merged the Versus, Type-0 and other devs at SE to form the FFXV team, the team then had 200 devs.

According to the shitposter in the thread a few days ago, he was trying to say that Ferrari somehow said Versus is the one that had 200 devs then XV had only 20 devs in 2012, but that goes against the reality of the situation. Because Type-0 had more than 20 devs on it, and including the other devs at SE and the Versus people put into the FFXV team, that is already far more than only "20" people on FFXV in 2012, meaning that XV couldn't have had only 20 people on it in 2012, thus the assertion that Versus somehow had 200 people on it is false, and only the other possible outcome of Versus having 20 people attached to it and then XV having 200 people in 2012 is true.
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>>380982673
Nomura's been pushing for it for a while actually
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>>380982710
Let's see the screencap of ferrari's post then to settle this, this just your theory otherwise
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>>380982673
>italian weebs are the best artists

Franco-Belgians beat them, anon.
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>>380982417
>source: my ass
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>>380982914

franco belgians learned from italians tho
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>>380953013
They're both casual fags. This is what killed FF.

FF combat should have receieved an upgrade after FFX, but instead with go a total rewrite of the combat system, 5 times, that doesn't resemble the originals at all. That is why FF12 plays itself, that's why FF13 does not allow you to combine the amazing animations in combat, that's why FF15 is literal auto-battle dogshit.
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>>380982673
Ferrari should be, but you are taking his posts out of context. He said that he based the idea of Cidney on nausicaa, not that she was supposed to be an airplane pilot. She was always a mechanic at hammerhead full service station and his original designs of her is still the same design today even if the hammerhead logo underwent changes, we also literally see a gas station in the old 2010 trailer.
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>>380982673
>nausicaa
>>380983221

Fuck not nasucaa, he actually said it was based on the girl Fio Piccolo from Porco Rosomm, and he was just talking about in how she's a smart girl who's good at her job but is oblivious to her beauty.
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>>380982897
Oh I'll just hop in my time machine. Either way, fact remains that the reality of the situation proves that XV had more than 20 devs in 2012, so trying to say that Versus had 200 then XV had only 20 in 2012 is factually wrong, because XV had far more than 20.
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>>380983218
They didn't make the battle systems for any of those games other than XV and that gets a bit murky on who's to blame for which parts of that garbage because of the director change
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>>380983218
>This is what killed FF.
See >>380959727

FFXV is a million times better than FF10s shitty turn based.
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>>380983739
>someone unironically believes this
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>>380984119
>someone thinks that isn't true.
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>>380984119
XV is better than X
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>>380984183
Yes, I love holding one button to dodge and warping to instantly replenish mana. I love not having control of my other party members, completely taking out all strategy from my hands. Yes, I love the simplistic kingdom hearts style battle mechanics, a system literally created for children
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>>380983558
So you don't have proof
ok
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>>380984298
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>>380983218
FF was always a casual series.
What killed the series was Squenix' execs greed, which turned it into something completely different hoping it would ride the hype of other games or genres to sell.
See FFXI and FFXIV copying Warcraft and the MMO hype or FFXV being turned into an action RPG because turn based games "don't sell".
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>>380984320
Yes I love mashing X to just attack over and over. I love watching the game play out instead of having direct control over individual actions. I love pretending to have more control than an ARPG because you give single inputs and just watch their animations play out without any control. I love pretending turn based has strategy when you jsut need to mash the mash 90% of the time then heal the other 10%. Yes I love the endless corridors made for children to traverse without getting lost with battle mechanics the same as games made for 5 year olds.
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>>380984463
>FFXI copying WoW
Holy fuck, you are retarded. Please kill yourself you fucking imbecile.
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>>380982673
But didn't Nomura design the main characters? Are they trash designs?
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It's another mobile game.
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>>380984695
>Yes I love mashing x over and over
Yeah, it's pretty obvious, you enjoyed FFXV. At least in FFX, and other turn based rpgs, they take some thought and planning, which is the entire point. FFXV is literally attack til you need to heal and then warp away
>endless corridor
Did we not play the same ffxv?
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>>380984857
Everyone before 2010, includes main cast and stella=Nomura
2010-2013=Ferrari
2013-redesigns by who cares
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>>380984384
>Versus, Type-0 and other devs merging to form FFXV in 2012 team is objective fact, this is common knowledge
>Type-0 has more than 20 devs on it, can see just from looking at the credits of the game
>Ergo Type-0 having more than 20 devs, plus whatever other devs from other SE and whatever Versus devs they put onto FFXV is far more than 20 devs, which means FFXV team had far more than only 20 devs on it in 2012.
>Thus proving that FFXV couldn't possible have had only 20 devs when it became XV, thus proving the statement that Versus somehow had 200 devs then XV only had 20 false, when it's the opposite that is true, Versus had 20 devs, then when merging Type-0 devs and other SE devs into the team they formed the 200 members on FFXV.
>Ferrari stated that XV had 200 devs in 2013 too, which is only a few months after 2012 when XV started.

Look man you don't need to be in denial.
>>
DEJA VU
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>>380985008
Man you sure got a lot facts mixed up
The worst was saying xv started that late, when it was in mid 2012 that the decision came to make it xv
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>>380984937
>Yeah, it's pretty obvious, you enjoyed FFXV.
So which is it? Holding or mashing? At least in FFXV battles take thought and planning, with you setting up your buffs and battle loadout before hand. FFX is literally attack til you need to heal and just repeat because it's braindead.

>ffxv
>Endless coridoor
You must not have played FFXV.
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>>380985315
>>380985315
>he thinks FFXV takes more thought than FFX
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>>380982673
Ferrari is too good for those dumb nip directors. Tabata completely wasted his designs and a ton of them didn't even make them into the game.
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>>380984857
>>380985000
Nomura designed the faces and body builds for Noctis, Ignis, Gladio, Prompto and Cor.

Roen designed the outfits for Noctis, Ignis, Gladio, Prompto, Cor and young Regis.

Ferrari designed Ardyn, Aranea, Cidney, Cid, Iris, Umbra, Verstael.

Mihara designed Ravus and Iedolas.

Kenji Niki designed present day Regis's outfit and the Kingsglaive outfits.

Yusuke Naora did the 30 year old Noctis, Ignis, Gladio and Prompto design, as well as modified Luna from her Stella design that Nomura did in 2013.
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>>380985715
I would've liked to see the cut character designs. I'm not sure how versatile he is though, if he could just draw high fantasy etc. if he realyl wanted to.
Nomura's art and design works for stuff like KH though. No artist or designer will just work for every game out there.
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>>380985953
Ferrari also designed Gentiana.

>>380985715
They weren't wasted at all. Arguably Ferrari's characters had more than most the others beyond the main party.
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>>380985687
It does.
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>>380984442
Thats not how strawman works


>>380985687
Uh yeah?
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>>380971617
This post reeks of a butthurt early PS3 adopter that missed out on the best 7th gen jrpgs.
Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon were fantastic
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>>380985189
I didn't mix up anything and everything I said is true. can you not fucking read? I even specified multiple times 2012, which everyone knows it was in July 2012. And guess what is only a few months after July 2012? You guessed it, 2013.
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>>380986174
I think this guy is one of the cut Ferrari characters. He was only seen for a few seconds in the 2013 and 2014 CGI.
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>>380986660
Was he in KG?
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>>380986835
No, he wasn't ever seen after the December 2014 trailer.
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