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tfw no Marvel vs Capcom 4 done by Arc System Works

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tfw no Marvel vs Capcom 4 done by Arc System Works
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>Mfw after the success of DBZ Fighters ArcSys is going to become the meme developer for fighting games
>Just like Platinum did for action games
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>ArcSys
Oh yeah, I'd love a Marvel game with 5fps animations and century-long hitstop. Anything to not have ugly graphics, right?
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>>380951392
they were already that after P4A
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>>380951392
we can only fucking hope that happens
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>>380951569
God no, I hate ArcSys fighting games
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>>380951441
are you implying the actual MvC4 looks decent in any shape or form?
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>>380951610
too mechanical for you?
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>>380951648
what did he mean by this?
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>>380951646
No? That doesn't mean I want fucking ArcSys to do it. At least say you want the Tekken team to do it or some shit.

>>380951648
There's nothing wrong with the mechanics, it's the lack of animation frames for a fast-paced game that fucks me up.
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>>380951843
>tekken

lel, better question is when is tekken finally going 2D
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>>380951843
lack of animation frames for a fast-paced game

the games run at 60 just like every fighting game, the reason it's fast paced in the first place is because they removed animation frames to make moves faster.
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>watching fanboys that were once shitting on KoF due to graphics be in the exact same position

I really don't know what to say
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>>380951994
I know what
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>>380951994
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>>380951994
is KoF totally dead now?
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Why would Arcys do a crossover with someone elses characters twice? Wouldn't Marvel vs Guilty Gear make more sense?

Also I want Spider-man to have sex with Jam
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>>380951947
>they removed animation frames to make moves faster
And I think that's a dumb idea because I value having as much visual input as possible in a fighting game and not playing a literal slideshow

>>380951994
What's really funny is seeing ArcSys fanboys do the exact same thing KoF fanboys doing pre-launch, making tons of shitposts and meme images about Capcom getting bodied by their saviors and how they're gonna take over the genre. But then 14 came out and died after a week, because surprise surprise, bandwagoners don't play the games they champion. They aren't fighting game players, they just want to see Capcom die but won't play their part when it comes down to it.
I say all this because I bought both Xrd and KoF14 at launch expecting not to get fucking memed on with a dead game, but unfortunately did and now refuse to make that same mistake a third time.
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>>380952478
>And I think that's a dumb idea because I value having as much visual input as possible in a fighting game and not playing a literal slideshow
www.ihavenofuckingideawhatamitalkingabout.com
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>>380952436
Crapcum is desperate and broke, MvCi is gonna bomb hard, even harder than SFV, when DBZF breaks all sales expectations they could outsource a new MvC game to Arc
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>>380952534
I only want ONE thing in a fighting game. ONE. And that's fluid animations.
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>>380951994

>KoF and Injustice are garbage because of their graphics
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>>380952665

Man at least SNK had the excuse of going bankrupt like 9 times
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>>380952642
Then you shouldn't be interested in arcsys fighters to begin with. Stick to SFV, Tekken or whatever else has intentionally "fluid" animations.
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>>380951994

>>380952665
Injustice 2 has great graphics though.
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The wrong anime got made into a fighting game by Arc Sys, bros.
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>>380951843

>lack of animation frames

That's a good thing for fighters, you idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw0h9WmBlsw
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>>380952914
After the success of DBFZ Arcsys will SURELY make a Kill la Kill fighter.
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>>380952914
yeah, it should have been a Ranma 1/2 fighter
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they good guys won (Arc is literally the Platinum games of fighting games now, they saved DBZ and stole the show at E3)

the bad guys lost (Capcom is closing down and turning to pachinko machines after SFV bombed and MvCinfinite has 0 hype around it, and it's gonna bomb just like SFV)

sometimes the good guys do win
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>>380953036
>>380952914
nonon best
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>>380953036
>>380952914
You kill la kill fags have been saying this for years now.
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>>380951392
>making good games makes you meme
hmm
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>>380952914
>>380953036
Even if a KLK game was made it would be dead as fuck by end of its launch month and you know it.
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>>380953093
>>380953183
ITS GONNA HAPPEN
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>>380951843
>Tekken

DUDE SCREEN SHAKES LMAO
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>>380953034
ArcSys takes it to the absolute extreme, though.
Skullgirls does it situationally, and rarely makes it seem like they're skipping frames.
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>>380951843
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How many copies of MVCI are you buying bros?
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>niggers actually implying a fucking DRAGON BALL Z game is gonna be dead online after launch
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>>380953375
kek
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>>380953361
I don't care why they did it, they can do what they want but I don't have to like it.
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>>380953375
Just one, why?
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>>380953395
>niggers
But they are the biggest dragon ball fans.
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>>380953487

>I don't care why they did it
>I don't understand it

k
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>>380952914
Kill La Kill should be a hack n' slash not a fighting game.
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>>380953687
I understand it full well, I just think it's unappealing as fuck.
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>>380953545
Its almost like you want the fgc to die, that better be the collector's edition
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>>380953040
Much as I loved the SNES game, who would ever buy a Ranma fighting game in this day and age? Nobody in Japan even remembers Ranma, only a few 30-year-old weebs over here would.
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>>380953798
Nah, just the Deluxe edition, I don't like the figures and stones it comes with.
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>>380953798
Nah it will be a used copy.
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>>380953687
Anon was pretty clear. He thinks it looks like shit. I agree as well. Arc sys has one of my favorite art style, but they take out way too much damn animation. Makoto alone in 3rd Strike destroys Arc shit despite being so fucking old. And that's the kind of animation I'd want in my Marvels.
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>>380953825
What? The Ranma manga outsold the Dragonball manga concurrently for 4 years in Japan until the Dragon Ball manga ended.

Yeah I don't think it was ever internationally as popular, but if anything was as popular as Dragon Ball; it was fucking Ranma.
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>>380952478
I think fighting games give the wrong impression on people in that they're not suppose to be played like other video games. To me, it's like buying a basketball: you're not suppose to play it by yourself and it takes some discipline to play at a reasonable level. Furthermore, fighting games first started at arcades, where dedicated communities formed around them and play them for a long time. Modern fighter games try to emulate that via fighting online, but offline with a fighting game community is where it best shines.

So to say KoF or Xrd or any fighting game is dead is nonsense to me. There will always be core players somewhere. Sure, they won't be big, but there are people who play and carry their games. You have to reach out to them. (Oh and if you think this is bullshit, imagine before fighting games had access to good internet and still survived.)
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If we're talking about dream ArcSys adaptations, why not Bleach? It has a wide cast of characters with varied powers and abilities.
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>>380954902
>pinoytoons

I want them to do the persona 5 fighting game first before anything else. It's an obligation after they dropped the last update on P4U unless you were in moonland.
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tfw no Mike Z., the Skullgirls dev, to put in GGPO netcode and Skullgirls training mode in DBFZ
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>>380954902
I'm amazed Bleach hasn't gotten a fighting game by this point, besides the shit ones released on the PSP.

Naruto's had like 15, spread across all the major consoles. Bleach had a hack and slash on the PS3, and that's about it. Seriously man, there's a dude with a hook sword who's special ability is to increase the weight of whoever it hits, while another guy who's special ability is to block out all the senses a person can experience. Why HASN'T it gotten a decent fighting game yet, are the abilities too broken or something?
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>>380955340
Seems to me that is a bad set of examples. But that does run against a point. Some abilities either wouldn't work or would unbalance a traditional fighter, and are the only shtick of a character. Kira for example. Slowing an enemy EVERY TIME a hit lands is stupid, but then what else is there for a moveset?

Bleach games shouldn't really have that problem. No one said boo when Budokai or Ultimate Ninja blatantly ignored, contrived, invented, or transposed moves, abilities, limitations from one character onto another to fill a roster position out with a recognizable face. The real challenge would be to manage how to use and maintain the sword transformations
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>>380955340
dark souls was great
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>>380951392
That would just be horrible what with all the good games and all
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>>380956135
Not every IP is best fit for ArcSys or Platinum
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>>380951947
>the reason it's fast paced in the first place is because they removed animation frames to make moves faster.
lol they didn't just "remove animation frames to make moves faster", they erased inbetweens and then put the remaining frames on 3s and 4s. There's nothing faster about it.
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>>380951392
>persona
>fist of the north star
>dbz

this has already happened
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>>380953798
I want another Dark Age. If these drones who only equate FGC with Capcom games keep crying about SFV and MVCI without trying all the other fighting games like KI (now with steam port annnounced) and Tekken 7 then let it die. The figureheads are in too deep in Capcom's bed to promote other games,and the general playerbase too hooked up on what they have to say.
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>>380954621
How do you find the offline fighting game community?
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I just want a YuYuYu and or Symphogear fighting game made by French Bread
Or you know just a new Melty Blood, still looking forward to the new UNIEL however.
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>>380957595
Facebook and Twitter actually. Also malls usually announce these sort of things like T7 and GG tourneys where I live. Granted thats me being lucky that I live in a olace where theres a playerbase. The hard oart is starting one yourself.
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Who /blazblue/ here?
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>>380955320
Look GGPO is great and all, but rollback for this Dragonball game would make it unfucking playable. It's best if they stick to frame delay since ASW does have a pretty damn good netcode on those grounds.
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>>380957871
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>>380957871
SKD vs Fenrich EVO2017 GF please. USA USA USA
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>>380957928
Skullgirls' GGPO lets you pick either rollback or frame delay before every match
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>>380958602
Come back when you understand how rollback netcode works you fucktard.
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>>380958741
I know how rollback netcode works. I'm saying that GGPO isn't locked on rollback.
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>>380957871

should I get blaze blue? id get guilty gear but I'm in no position to get a ps4 currently
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>>380959216
You don't choose between rollback and frame delay, frame delay is a part of rollback. If you get a 200ms connection and select 0 frame delay you will have a TERRIBLE experience.
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>>380959312
>should I get blaze blue? id get guilty gear but I'm in no position to get a ps4 currently
Excuse me? You know that Xrd is on PS3 and PC right? Hell Xrd even has crossplay between PS3 and PS4 too
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>>380957595
>>380957708
>find local game store is doing fight nights now
>they list a bunch of games available
>go a few times
>people are only playing SFV
>see machines running GG and BB
>nobody wants to play, even casual games
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>>380959540
Well at least it probably has Tekken now
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JOJO BY ARC SYSTEM WORKS WHEN
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>>380953221
>tfw no ryuuko gf
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What's the verdict on DBFZ from the fgc after trying it out at E3?
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>>380951392
Fucking retarded frogposter.
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>>380959594

Funny, after seeing your post I just checked. Tekken 7 is now listed on this week. I've never seriously given that series a shot but the new one is tempting me.
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>>380959617
years and years from now sadly
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>>380959431
>You don't choose between rollback and frame delay, frame delay is a part of rollback.
Yes, the rollback still kicks in if the input lag/frame delay that you chose wasn't enough but you still get to pick either which is one of the reasons why GGPO is so great.

>If you get a 200ms connection and select 0 frame delay you will have a TERRIBLE experience.
Only if someone's on wifi.
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>>380953395

Dragon Ball games are ALWAYS dead online, no exceptions.
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>>380959540
Well that sucks, but I think its a good move to ask them to try other games.
>>380959645
Majority are hyped for it and they really cannot wait to play the completed version in 2018. Some of them even picked up GG to get ready, evidenced that GG Rev2s sales spiked by 30% after dbfz was announced.

The others actively denies its existence and want to promote mvci
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>Wanting Disney's grubby corporate hands on another fighting game
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>>380960090
Am I talking to a brick wall? The reason frame delay is in GGPO is so you don't see your opponent teleporting all over the place and switching from different actions as the game "rolls back" his actions due to the connection.
That's what sets it apart from just frame delay in other fighters, those just sync the action and if that can't be done in the frame delay set it will slow down the game or just freeze and try to sync up again.
>Only if someone's on wifi.
So you haven't played any matches with rollback and 0 frame delay.
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>>380954621

I agree with your thought base.
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>>380960160
Can't I want to play both?
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>>380959617
If ever, not till a very long time which is a shame. A jojo fighter with Daisuke behind it would be pretty sweet. I'm not sure if Ishiwatari ever flat out stated he's a fan, but the influences in Guilty Gear and the similarities in design philosophies both being heavily influenced by classic western music (of course GG being more on the metal side than Jojo). With the off the wall characters Guilty Gear has come up with and still are, they could do some creative shit with Jojo. I'm damn sure one of the fighters will make the game a platformer knowing them.
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>>380951392
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>>380960804
>17 online
>no up boats anywhere
wow! in fact i would say most redditors like yourself hate pepe because he's now classified as a hate symbol. using that logic, if you hate pepe that makes you more likely to be the redditor. we all know you are
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>>380960921
>>380961107
>He takes his meme frog very seriously
Pathetic.
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>>380960393
You can, and you should play what you want, but dont tell other people that. What were seeing right now in the FGC is common especially in politics and religion, but at a smaller scale. Thats why you cant support a candidates platform without relating to the candidate or siding with some good pts of the candidate without people barking at you for being literally hitler for your stance because people think you cant have both or the good parts of the arguments.

People should think for themselves, play what you want and dont let other people tell you otherwise.
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>>380951392
>BnH fighting game
Manning Froppy/Eraserhead/Red Riot
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>>380957595
Check if your local uni has a fight club. Im glad my has one.
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Smash Bros by ArcSys when?
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>>380961107
Then why aren't you using ragefaces? 4chan made ragefaces, just because reddit uses them doesn't mean they didn't start on 4chan.
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>>380952665
Injustice has pretty good graphics and facial animation, just terrible art direction and bad animation for literally everything else. They're so close to their games actually looking great that it's annoying.
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>>380960318
You've got GGPO mixed up with SFV's shitty netcode. Just try Skullgirls out one day or listen to Mike Z.'s explanation of GGPO.

https://youtu.be/gpXganAM_qA?t=1420
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>>380960134
>Xenoverse PvP
Probably for the best its dead
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>>380961720
You need more time to let the ragefaces cultivate into being "post-ironic" before you can use it here again. Give it another year or two
>>380952665
Injustice is pretty mediocre outside of content. It has tons of modes though and should be the golden standard of most fighting game devs when it comes to single player
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>>380961814

>kikeZ
>good

top kek my d00d
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>>380961814
>Am I talking to a brick wall?
Just fucking read my post again you braindead fucktard, LITERALLY JUST FUCKING READ IT.
I preordered Skullgirls before it came out and played the shit out of the beta, I actually know what the fuck i'm talking about.
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lol the anti-pepe redditor on his personal crusade is sperging again I see
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>>380962171
Mike Z. is good

>>380962316
I've read your retarded post already and chuckled at how stupid it sounded.
I would love to hear your explanation on this: Skullgirls having exhibitions of American vs Japanese players online while other games don't.
https://youtu.be/uAXjtVx9MhQ
https://youtu.be/jRhQjxbb0yw

Spoiler alert: GGPO is better than Japanese netcode because Japan doesn't give a shit about netcode because of arcades and Japan is a small country so it doesn't need good netcode
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>>380962882
So again you prove you didn't actually read my post, I never once stated that Japanese netcode is superior to GGPO, GGPO is indeed way superior to the netcodes used by japanese companies.
All i'm saying to you is that you don't actually understand what rollback netcode actually does. SFV also uses a (incredibly shitty) version of rollback that's way worse than GGPO, but you should first do your research on how rollback works before sucking Mike Zs dick.
Frame delay is a part of GGPO and rollback netcode, the difference is that rollback netcode adds rollback so there won't be any lag unlike traditional netcode which is still based on frame delay but doesn't do anything else, it just hopes the information is send and received during the frame delay otherwise things get messy.
AKA: TRY FUCKING READING MY POST.
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>>380963298
>Frame delay is a part of rollback
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>>380963298
>rollback netcode adds rollback
Are you sure about that?
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>"Hurr! I hate Anime and Airdash shit!"
>Dragonball Game gets a Trailer
>"WOW DUDE I LOVE ARCSYS NOW!"

I hate secondaries.
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>>380952912
hey wait... that fat guy...
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>>380963634
People never really disliked anime games, they just dislike people who play them.

animefags are the smashfags of fighting games, even smell as bad
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>>380963490
Try actually playing the game when the connection isn't under 100ms, rollback on 200-300ms connection without frame delay is a way worse experience than just frame delay on that same connection. On good connections neither rollback or frame delay will lag to begin with, you are shitting out of your mouth about best case scenarios in which both netcodes work perfectly without problem. Comparing them in that situation just makes you look like a retard that has no idea what he is talking about outside of "ROLLBACK GOOD FRAME DELAY BAD ME SMART"
>>380963615
1000 word limit. Just go read the wikipedia article about GGPO so your tiny brain can maybe understand it.
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>>380958275

It's everything I'm hoping for.
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>>380951392
>>380958060
>>380960804
>>380960921
>>380961107
>>380961274
>>380961464
>>380962787
>"Look at me I samefag for attention!"
Give it up. You'll never be the next barneyfag.
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>>380963938
>animefags are the smashfags of fighting games, even smell as bad

It's a coin toss whether animefags will be okay or not. Smashfags though are always guaranteed to fucking stink in some ungodly way.
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marvel involved means it'll probably be shit. i'd like to see a cooler dc. nrs is sometimes cool, but mostly clunky and cringy.
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>>380963938
So much worse than niggers and furries right.
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>>380963938
>>380964148
melty players have a good excuse on their smell though

>>380963967
shut up retard
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>>380964373
>niggers and furries
Yes animefags that's what I said
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>>380964383

>Dat Karen hoodie

Nice.
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