Was it that bad?

gameplay wise? not thaaat bad.

narrative wise? total trash.

>>380951195
This. The gameplay isn't that bad, but it's not good either. The narrative is complete garbage though.

No, it's gameplay was mediocre but functional. Did absolutely nothing that another Metroid didn't do better though, and the story and characterization were damning enough to drag it below average. But yeah, it's playable enough. Maybe not good but by no means frustrating or broken, just middling.

>>380951195
Gameplay was full of missed opportunities, and in some cases, deliberately gimped such as the Wiimote restriction.

better than that shitty 3DS remake or prime 4

>>380951161
No.

If this game got shat on it's because Metroid fans think their serie is a SF masterpiece of writing.

It is impossible to give Samus a personality as everyone has a different idea of what kind of person she should be.
It's especially impossible when you just retcon the shit out of what little established plot there is.
I'm a guy who doesn't mind the deliberately artificial barriers of the game, like Samus not using all her tools until she's authorized for fear of pissing off the Galactic Federation. Or that she used to be a gung-ho loose cannon when she was more immature.
But Adam comes off a lot more as an idiot than a hero sacrifice. And the narrative is at the expense of gameplay, like not having a final boss.
There's some stuff that's okay and if fusion and this game existed in a vacuum it'd have been received okay, but it shits all over Prime AND Super.

Samus' character was insulting.

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>>380951161
Yes, any Metroid game is casual trash by default.

There are JRPGs that take more skill.

>>380951517
Only to permavirgin waifufags like yourself.

Samus fans are worse than Sonic fans.

>>380951461
>It is impossible to give Samus a personality as everyone has a different idea of what kind of person she should be.
Prime 2 and Fusion disagree.

>but it shits all over Prime AND Super
And Zero Mission. And 2. And Fusion.

>>380951461
>It is impossible to give Samus a personality as everyone has a different idea of what kind of person she should be.

More waifufag autism.

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>>380951410

>>380951676
It was like watching a C-tier fanservice anime.

>>380951195
Look no further than this OP

>>380951584

I always saw Samus as a very anti-feminine character thrust into a maternal situaltion.

In Metroid 2, you idly decide not to kill the last metroid. This pays you off in Super where it's revealed the metroid sees you as its mother, and then it dies protecting you. Samus is kind of unwittingly put into a very emotional situation. She's not motherly in any sense and she hates metroids, but the sacrifice of the infant metroid stirs a core human emotional response in her.

But in Other M, Samus is obsessed with a baby, struggles with insecurity and anxiety, has to be saved repeatedly by men. She just comes across as very weak, which is the opposite of how previous games portrayed her. In most Metroid games, Samus's gender is not a component of her character at all. In Other M, it's a core component.

>>380951950
>fanservice
>when Other M is one of the only game of the serie that doesn't reward player with boobies

>>380951950

She has been a shitty blank slate since the first game, who cares what she does to her non-existent character. Gameplay is what matters.

>>380952046
>I always saw Samus as a very anti-feminine character thrust into a maternal situaltion

Because you're a virgin waifufag reading too much in between the lines.

>>380951584

This. 2D metroid is especially shit. The only thing fun about a 2D game - any 2D game - is what's on screen at that very moment. Making players "think" about the areas outside of the screen and plan around them is pointless. "Simply head right" is much better than some 2D maze you can get lost and frustrated in, making you backtrack the entire fucking game.

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Samus should've just stayed mute and a vessel for the player like Gordon Freeman.

>>380952058
Except the opening scene where Samus is zero suited in a lab and then crying and flailing like a waifu when Adam dies.

>>380952132
Why would that make me a waifufag? I'm not in love with her. I'm saying nothing about who she is or what she does is in any way female. She's stated to be an aloof bounty hunter. Other M makes her into a shitty codependent bounty hunter

The game engine could've been used for a proper direct translation of 2D Metroid into non-first person 3D, but there are just tons of bad design choices made with the game otherwise that fatally wound the gameplay beyond just its linearity and poor story segregation. It's also technically sound, at the least.

>>380952334

The first fucking game was already waifu pandering, so nothing has changed.

>>380952334
>Because the zero suit is her default outfit + the game introduce for the first fucking time in the serie, Samus with normal clothes
>her attachement to Adam come from Fusion, even if you think the writing is bad, it doesn't make the character a waifu

>>380952074
It's a good thing that the puzzle design from Prime and the platforming and environmental design from Super made into Other M then.

>>380952385

She's a blank slate, like the Ice Climbers or Alex Kidd. Any personality trait you think she has stems from your autism.

>>380952714
Retard, all I'm saying is that what we DO know about her is non-gendered. Not that she wasn't feminine.

>>380952563
Is this some sort of bait thread?

>>380952714
Fusion kind of disagrees with you.

Also, context clues.

The action is bland but semi serviceable but the story and characters are just fucking terrible. Samus' VA needed a fucking coach, or hell just someone different to replace her. Sounded like she was on sleeping pills or had a lobotomy.

>>380952825
>context clues

Aka reading too much in between the lines due to your waifufaggotry.

>>380952797
>Doesn't have any argument
>b-bait

Metroid fags needs to cope with the fact that Samus was never really a character and every aspect of Other M story is inherited from previous entry.
I've never seen such a delusional fanbase.

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>>380951161
it killed the series for 7 years

>>380952929
Does this include things that the game directly tells us?

Like that she's a bounty hunter and that she's been sent to a place to do a job?

Also you sorta ignored the Fusion part.

>>380952714
Samus isn't a blank slate, in the same way that Mario isn't a blank slate because he doesn't converse with characters.

Samus' character is in the subtleties and player action.
A simple scene like Samus slowly sizing up the Phazon clone or giving a nonchalant wave to a just saved planet tells you everything you need to know so well.

>>380952937
>I've never seen such a delusional fanbase.

The Fire Emblem fans who think the waifu pandering started with Awakening are just as bad.

>>380952929
>completely disregards the fusion comment
>doesn't realize you get traces of her personality in Super and the Prime series via body language and prologue text

>>380953082
Well... Yeah you're right

>>380951161
>Other M
>M Other

>Metroid Other M
>M O M

>>380952937
But if you go by the argument that Samus was never really a character, then why characterize her with emotions that were not present during previous games in Other M?

Other M also clashes with player emotion and experience from the previous games.
If Samus really has no character, then the player is Samus in a way.
But in Super Metroid was the player traumatically afraid of Ridley?

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>>380952937
While you're mostly right, they did entrust the development of her character to the team that made Dead Or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball. Why nobody stopped to ask if that was a good decision remains a mystery to this day.

>>380951584
>Look, mom! I'm being contrarian!

>>380953028
>Samus' character is in the subtleties and player action.
A simple scene like Samus slowly sizing up the Phazon clone or giving a nonchalant wave to a just saved planet tells you everything you need to know so well.

No, you're just desperately trying to justify your waifufag autism. Pewpewpew is not a character trait. Anyone who claims to like Samus' non-existent "character" should be treated for mental illness.

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>>380953292

>>380953475
>buzzword central while ignoring what was said.

Don't ever call someone autistic again. Unless you subscribe to the school of "takes one to know one"

>>380951161
Not as bad as many actually bad games, like Busby, SuperMan 64, E.T., Sonic 06 or others.
It is an average game ruined by a shitty story nobody asked for. Add to that all other Metroid games are great, of course Other M looks even worse.

It's pretty much like Mario Sunshine: it's not a bad game by itself but it's very bad compared to other entries in its series.

>>380953475
>ignores fusion again

>>380953475
So as someone who obviously went into Other M with no previous impressions on what Samus should be, how would you judge her characterization?

>>380951161
Yes and it will always be remembered that way

>>380953091
>body language

Wow, just stop. Samus waifufags are severely mentally ill. No one in their right mind would look into Alex Kidd's expression while he eats an onigiri as a character trait. Only someone contaminated by the virus of waifu faggotry would go that far.

>>380953475
But that's all I need from Samus. That's all I need from Metroid.

You go through all of Echoes, and Samus just waves off the "thank you".

It's perfect. It tells you everything about her character.
Or at the very least we can say, the character envisioned by the creators.

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>>380951161
Yes it was.

Fuck you.

>>380953316
Because they wanted to try something else ?
It's not like toying with an existing universe in something new in the video game industry or in fiction in general.
I understand it can clash with you're expectation, but why not just completely ignore it ?
We should stop creators from proposing their vision on a character just because fans will not like it ?

>>380953345
Surely because they made Ninja Gaiden in the first place, not for the bouncing bewbs technology

>>380953724
So as someone who obviously went into Other M with no previous impressions on what Samus should be, how would you judge her characterization?

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>>380952132
>>380952714
>>380952929
>>380953475
>>380953724

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>people are now non-ironically defending other m

>>380953724
facial expressions aren't body language, you absolute mong.

The fact that she mourns a Federation unit and shuts the eyes of a dead commander in Prime 2 shows character.

>>380953724
>No one in their right mind would look into Alex Kidd's expression while he eats an onigiri as a character trait

It's exactly that. That is a character trait.
Just take the simple example of Mario obtaining a star.
Just from a simple animation we presume that Mario is adventurous and light-hearted.

It's a stupidly simple thing, we are you trying to become an Other M-kun?

>>380953797
>waving thank you, such a deep and intriguing characters

I'll repeat: out of all waifufags, none are as autistic and pathetic as Samusfags. Not the MLP fans. Not the Sonic fans. Not the Homestuck fans. You are the bottom of the barrel, the worst of the worst.

Every single 8-bit character from the NES era has done something trivial like waving. Only Samus fans are sad, lonely and pathetic enough to consider this a character trait.

>>380953596
Sunshine is a fucking masterpiece, how can you be so wrong.

I'd compare Other M to pre-Wooly World Yoshi games, excluding Yoshi's Island ofc.

>>380954071
And he's now devolved into saying the same thing over and over again.

Welp, was a fun thread. Night everyone.

>>380951161
I liked the melee finishers

>>380953873
You can't ignore it because it directly references Super Metroid.
If it was a re-imagining, fine, I could take it.

Could you imagine how stupid the writers would look if for example Kratos suddenly had a dilemma about killing people after two entire games of players murdering everything while still keeping those two games in the lore of the third?

>>380954224
Don't forget to tell your shrink you're in love with an 8-bit sprite.

>>380954071
But you're missing the context.
NES games are 30 minutes long arcade games.

Echoes is a big game, it's a long process.
Therein lies the characterization.
That Samus just waved the whole thing off as nothing.

>>380951161
>pad only
>missile aiming
>linear progression
>trash lore and story

It's functional enough to be completed.

>that feel when you just had a sudden realization that people are gonna start acting like they loved other M now on /v/ because it always happens with any of the franchise titles.

Oh no. No please.

>>380951584
I'm worried by the amount of people who can't differentiate between overrated and bad

>>380952519
Well the gameplay was garbage so that changed.

>>380951161
Did they call this "Other M" to stand by the botched translation at the end of the first Metroid?

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>>380954071
>>waving thank you
Holy shit how can someone be so retarded. She's not thanking them you idiot she's waving their thanks OFF, like saying "no biggy this is my job".

>>380954404
You're not helping your case, waifufag.

>>380954071
He's right you know.

>the new metroid prime is gonna be even more easy than corruption

>>380951161
It put the franchise on a 7 year hiatus. What do you think?

>>380954289
Kratos having remorse would contradict his attitude from previous games AND his murderous rampage.
But Samus talking about her feelings doesn't contradict anything. They just add "something" to "nothing".

>>380954574
I died three times in corruption vs my once in Prime 1. Although that might be because I emulated it and used my 360 controller for a game with motion controls.

>>380954638
This. Unlike Samus, Kratos qualifies as a character.

>>380954512
I wonder what we can gleam from you character from what little posts we have.
Why would a person be so intent on calling people out as waifufags over Samus while defending Other M at the same time?
We may never know, but we can learn from it so that others may not stray down the same path.

>>380951195
the gameplay was trash too

>>380954673

Okay. Thanks for letting me know that you are an embarrassing super casual I suppose.

>>380954574
>metroid games are hard
End this meme.

>>380954736
>brings up prime 1 might be easier than 3
>casual
Whatever man.

>>380954720
Not as trash as many other actually unplayable games around. It was a step down from previous games but hardly unplayable.

>>380954638
But the contradictions lie in the player's actions.
In Super, there's no cutscene or any indication that Samus is afraid of Ridley. You just start shooting missiles at it.

The Kratos example wouldn't clash because of written narrative, it clashes because of player experience.

>>380954716
Again reading too much in between the lines. No one here is defending Other M.

>>380954716
Just stop responding. He still hasn't adressed the Fusion and Super narrations

>>380954847

>dying ever on corruption

Like I said. Embarrassing super casual. There is zero excuse to die on corruption.

>>380954945
>here's what happened last game
>"wow, such great waifu, must white knight"

>>380955005

the highest difficulty mode is actually kinda hard

>>380955051
Is Samus your "waifu"?

>>380954864

it's not literally unplayable. Being able to play the game to completion is not an accomplishment.

>>380955106
Nice reading comprehension.

>>380954898
>In Super, there's no cutscene or any indication that Samus is afraid of Ridley.

Well, like I said, there was "nothing". It was to the player to imagine the reaction of Samus.
Stating that Samus as PTSD with Ridley doesn't really contradict the canon, it contradict the idea you had when playing Super.
Still, it was kinda stupid to drop that when Samus blasted Ridley multiple times in the past

>>380955005
Since we're flexing our e-peen, i guess. I'm assuming you never died in Prime? Unless you're just as bad as a super casual

It was bad enough it basically killed Metroid until E3 2017.

>>380955051
How about Fusion you meme boy?

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>>380952241
I agree but I'm starting to think it was part of a deliberate character arc

She started out as a literal chosen one (by the literal Chozo) and a lone badass. The galactic federation or whatever was mentioned but you only see a few traces of them.

In newer games we've gotten way the fuck more federation than anyone wanted, and it's turning out that the galaxy has a revolting number of bounty hunters who are on par with Samus. And sometimes (such as in Other M) she's treated like pretty much a rank and file federation employee who has to follow orders like everyone else.

You could see it as a dumbing down of the character, but based on weird connections that have started showing up between different games lately and implying Nintendo and others have been playing some kind of long game, I'm wondering if this character transformation wasn't actually planned.

We (the players and samus herself) remember the old games and have a sense that *of course* she's special, but with every new game she seems less so. Maybe she was an experiment in the first place (an engineered supersoldier with a VR backstory or something), or maybe the federation has been integrating her Chozo technology all this time and she's just slowly found herself in a world where her legend has eroded.

>>380955252
Might be worse than your ability to analyse narrative, yeah?

Who fucking would defend Other M? Holy shit.
Say the gameplay and auto-lock on was good and could be applied to other series going into 3D.
Fucking come here and talk about characterization with Other M as the backbone. Jesus.

>>380955329
What about Fusion?
>>380955456
Nice autism.

>>380951161
primefags blew it way out of proportion. It's the weakest canon game but it's still better than a bland FPS spin off.

>>380951161
it was a bad metroid game

Gameplay was barely passable, story was shit, art direction left a lot to be desired and there was pretty much no music to speak of.
Trash game

>>380954864
Its borderline unplayable, but not quite there.

The way and how 1st person works is among the worst control schemes ive ever seen in anything. Doesn't help the rest of the game is bland and boring and you can almost never die because you can spam dodging like stupid because its invincible for a shitton. The only time's you'll ever really possibly die is because of story bullshit thats makes no sense or isn't clear.

>>380955456
Please tell me you're falseflagging.

>>380955570
hm yes the idea that games can have deliberate story arcs could only be autism

>>380953987
To be fair, SJW autists like Dobson and Moviebob have defended it for years.

>>380955570
You were saying that Samus is a blank slate yet her dialogue in fusion told us all about her character.

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>>380955868
This isn't like a serious theory or anything, I'm just suspicious as hell that the plot nosedive is a legitimate accident.

I'm not gonna spend any time trying to connect the dots, but it wouldn't surprise me if Something Is Up.

>>380955919
What exactly are they defending in it?

>>380955495
>Say the gameplay and auto-lock on was good

I won't, which is why the Prime series are objectively garbage as well. First-person shooting in a console game is a stupid idea. Platforming in first person is a mistake as well. Combine the two and you have one of the worst series ever made.

>>380951161
>Was it that bad?

Gameplay wise?

>as a game
Ok but forgettable. It's a linear action game with platforming elements that you will never play more than once.

>as a metroid game
It isn't.

Story wise?

>as a game
Absolute garbage.

>as a metroid game
The incarnation of all that is wrong with the world.

>>380956052
Not the same anons, dumbass.

>>380956159
>I played Metroid Prime for 34 minutes

>>380956159
I can't really enjoy the Prime games anymore, they're kinda unplayable today. But at the time they were dope and good.

So you're right today but in 2002 you are wrong.

>>380956329
Why are you replying to bait?

>>380956283
So do you have an argument against Fusion's characterization or are you just going to fling random insults?

>>380955456
We already know that the Federation is reverse-engineering her tech. That's how she downloads her upgrades from the Data Rooms in Metroid Fusion, and what the entire premise of Federation Force revolves around.

That being said, Samus is still pretty special because she is (supposed to be) uniquely capable. Other bounty hunters aren't as smart, agile, cunning, good-natured, or (perhaps most importantly) adaptable as Samus is, and those that can go toe to toe with her (think Hunters and Corruption) tend to have some sort of glaring weakness. Outside of the games, she's portrayed as being "in it for things other than money," which does not necessarily make her unique taken alone, but puts her into what I would imagine to be a much smaller group of bounty hunters than the general collection of them. Plus she really fucking hates Space Pirates.

Also, I would like to see more Galactic Federation, just in better made games than Fed Force. I think there is some real potential with exploring what the fuck they do from time to time, or perhaps setting up a narrative from 2 different perspectives.

>>380956360
>defending auto-lock
Prime is trash. Might as well just have an "auto-battle" function like Suikoden.

It was just Super in 2.5D.

Only primefags hate it cause MUH FPS.... er FPA!!!!! REEEEE

>>380956360
Because there are two kinds of bait.
One in where you can laugh at the sarcasm together.
The other is a cruel bait, a diseased worm on the end of a serrated hook.

>>380956374
I'm not the anon saying... ugh, forget it.

>>380955456
>>380956084

Other M slamdunked the series into the garbage so hard that it couldn't have been an accident.

Taking a gritty Ellen Ripley character and humiliating her with a bishie anime treatment? Either japan is completely tone-deaf and retarded or it was a surgical self-parody.

Remember that pixel hunting segment where you have to find and scan a nearly-invisible splash of blood in a big field of grass? Giant hint that it was a self-conscious farse.

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>>380956457
>shitty FPS with lock-on and auto combat
>still manages to be harder than any of the 2D games
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>380956695
Prime elitists are even more annoying than 2D purists.

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The only good thing to come out of Other M storywise was the fact we got a potential candidate for the identity of Sylux.

>>380956820
we did?

>>380956740
Why even respond when you have zero arguments

>>380956856
I like the theory that Adam's brother is Sylux, it does make a little bit of sense.

>>380956820
You what? There was nothing in Other M that had anything to do with Sylux

>>380956858
because this thread isn't about whether 2D or Prime is better. It's about why Other M sucked. You and him are nothing but shitposters.

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>>380951161

>>380951430
As a game it doesn't have very much in common with the rest of the series either.

Other M > Haloidkiddie shit

>>380956691
>Remember that pixel hunting segment where you have to find and scan a nearly-invisible splash of blood in a big field of grass?
No, but remember a pixel hunting segment where I had to find and scan a splash of blood that was easily visible due to how much it contrasts with the field of grass.

>>380956913
I'm saying from a theory standpoint, that's all. It would make a fair bit of sense considering Sylux first appeared in Hunters, with Ian's death being a big part of the reason Samus became one.

>>380957037
how original

>>380951461
>Or that she used to be a gung-ho loose cannon when she was more immature.
Yeah, remember that time when Adam ordered her not to go save his own brother and she obeyed?
And then after an entire game of her religiously following his every order he shot her in the back because apparently he thought if he ordered her she wouldn't obey?
And how during that they showed a flashback of the scene of her following his orders in spite of everything, as if that underlined some sort of evolution of the character?

And how all of this was completely retarded, because in the end you never know if the metroids the GF was making were actually immune to cold, and every single Metroid you see or fight in the game isn't, and also Metroids being immune to cold doesn't make them invincible because you could already kill them without feezing them?

>MEHHHH THE GAMEPLAY WAS FUNCTIONAL GUYZ

No, it fucking wasn't. Other M was terrible.

>>380951517

THE BABY

>>380957486
Not to mention Metroids naturally lose their cold weakness as soon as they leave their fucking larval stage

>>380957698
The game could be completed without cheating.

I don't have any desire to replay it ever again.

>>380957698

You can complete it from beginning to end without being in for a reasonable chance of crashing or other bugs.
That qualifies for "functional", but it doesn't at all mean good.

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This thread is truly something else.

>>380957791

HAHA WAIT FOR THE 3DS REMAKE RETCON

Other M's gameplay would have been way better if it didn't rely on the Wiimote alone. Moving in 3D with a D-pad was just awkward as fuck and the first person stuff was also awkward as fuck. Also being super linear but not with a story that emphasises changes to areas throughout the game like Fusion made it even less worth it. They had a solid base for a 3D Metroid that was more classic inspired but it didn't work out too well because of retarded design choices. I mean, I liked some stuff about it but it wasn't that good.

Story was retarded too. I don't blame the voice actress one bit, as she was directed to act emotionless. She was clearly capable of better and if Samus was less emotionless, she might have been a more engaging character.

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If metroid prime is dead then why are they making a metroid prime 4?

>>380958153

>Metroid Fusion uses its linearity to make you feel like the prey instead of the predator and set a claustrophobic atomsphere
>Other M uses its linearity to tell a boring story and occasionally hunt Ridley
How did they get this so wrong?

>>380952171
Couldn't you say the same with 3d games?
>only fun thing about 3d games is what's in front of you
>Making players think about all of the areas around them is pointless
>Simply head forward

And trust me, plenty of 3d games do this because people don't mind exploring unless there is a constant waypoint

>>380958240
same reason sega makes sonic games still

guarantee money from autistic children just like fidget spinners.

>>380958406

Also Fusion's linearity means that they can change things around the station more effectively, making each revisit different. I still prefer the Super/Zero Mission line of exploration, but Fusion does it really well. Other M just lacks either approach.

I will say using a Power Bomb in Other M is satisfying as fuck though.

>>380956949
Been in these threads the whole time, this is accurate.

Regardless of what people imagined Samus to be like before Other M (and I'd say she's implied everywhere before it to be an elite bounty hunter who everyone respects and fears), the Samus in Other M is not a compelling protagonist: she's whiny, insecure, too emotional, talks to herself too much and trusts a man who would rather shoot her than tell her what to do because she is an emotional wreck.

But this is not even the worst part: usually whiny and emotionally scarred protagonists can have their comeback, their own moment of growth and glory. Other M Samus doesn't. She just idly sits around and lets her words be more important than her actions. The game would like to make you think she grew up, but I saw none of it. Just whining and talking that would not stop; Anthony was actually doing shit, if Samus had a proper resolve and did things -in the cutscenes- like Anthony did, the game would at least give you a grain of satisfaction.
If there wasn't such a huge detatchment between cutscenes and gameplay (unlike any Metroid game before it, and remember you can "enjoy" Other M without the gameplay after you finish it), I wonder if this would still be a problem, because even if you actually accomplish things as a player, it feels like it has no effect on the story.
It becomes worse when you realize everybody bosses you around as if it were nothing, treating you like shit, despite the fact you deal with far worse threats than anyone else on the ship (and canonically, Zero Mission, 2 and Super happened). Other M truly must be the perfect game for masochists who overachieve and want to be humiliated regardless of it.

Also yes, it's really weird to have Ridley PTSD after she, in the Other M canon, defeated him at least twice (I forgot if she did in 2). The "She is emotionally distressed!" explanation, it barely holds a candle. It makes her sound even more like a loser, a completely unlikable protagonists with no redeeming qualities.

>>380958240
Nintendo has been pushing unsucessful games/concepts/franchises just because of hubris.

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Also, I must add: deleting Prime from the continuity is very convenient, because in those games, Samus' personality and role in the galaxy is more defined (the Chozo foresaw her arrival as this omnipotent space savior, and her role in destroying the Metroid Prime; Federation people bow down to her, the narrator talks about her like she was the coolest, strongest thing in the universe, space pirates shit in their pants when she arrives, etc etc, other things I forgot). You can see why people were puzzled, confused and rightfully offended by Other M, since in the previous years and most recently released games, Prime always hailed Samus as the strongest warrior in all of the universe.

Also Metroid and cinematic experience should not mix.

For a game in itself, it was all right.

As for being a "Metroid" game. I feel very flat.

We don't need a fucking story in Metroid. We don't need to infect Metroid with stupid SJW cancer and political bullshit.

Other than that it wasn't really bad. Just a huge disappointment.