WHO READY FOR /JULY o7/

>>380938947
its it a new plinco machine?

>>380938981

last year a konami rep confirmed major announcements were being saved to "win back fans" on the 30th anniversary of the series.

>>380938947
Can't wait for the HD4K remake of MGSV!

CARAMEL

Chances are they're just doing a box set remaster of MGS1, 2, 3, peace walker and 4

>>380939219

Metal Gear Rising 2 is a real possibility.

Metal gear solid 6 will eventually come out too.

I just bought the HD collection so I could play 1, 2 and 4. Playing through them in release order now though, 3 is a lot of fun and 1 and 2 were great. I've heard mixed things about 4 though, how do you guys feel about it.

I've been spoiled by 5 though, where you can restart at a checkpoint if you get spotted. I do that shit all the time. When I was playing through 1 and 2, if I get spotted I just would die so I could start over from that room. In 3 I've been saving a ton just to get through it with 0 kills and as few alerts as I can manage.

MGS4 for ps4 in 4k and 60fps pls

Mgs remake hype

>>380939175
It's too late.

Caramel committed suicide after E3

It came too late to save him

>>380938947
THE RUISE CRUISE NEVER ENDS

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>>380939686
I'm hope it's MGS1 related. I want to see sexy Young Solid and Liquid and sexy Meryl.

>>380938947
im going to buy mgsv on sale anyways it will probably be like 10 bucks lmao

>>380939169
u mean mgs4

>>380939813
He'll be back, you'll see.
If not Caramel, his phantom will

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>trusting konami
>after everything they pulled

You guys are like beaten housewives, you never fucking learn.

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>>380938947
The weirdest part is that I'm actually kind of half excited. We've always sorta known that Kojima was crazy in a bad way when it came to writing without Tomokazu Fukushima, and Infinite Heaven shows us how much better MGSV would have been if a more competent director had worked with the same exact tools as Kojima. Despite this, Kojima has kept the same cult of personality he garnered before The Phantom Pain, and we've even seen that here with some anons being so delusional that they nuked /mgg/ and created "The REAL MGS5" theories for over a year straight.

Given how incredibly dubious and undercutting Konami still is, it's hard to actually be looking forward to anything, but with Kojima left behind, not only is there a chance for some actual discussion to be had about the new game, but it can also revitalize talk about the rest of the series via apt comparisons about how shite it is.

>Fukushima returns - MGS6?
>Complete edition of MGSV - apology for ruching it out
>MGS 1, 2, & 3 Collection in Fox Engine
>Or, MGS HD Collection for current consoles, including Twin Snakes directors cut with option for non-Matrix cutscenes, gameplay rebalanced for newer mechanics
>Ghost Babel HD

>>380940856
>apology for ruching it out
more like
>slightly updated graphics to make it the way it was meant to be played

It's GOTTA be a mgs1 remake right?
It's gonna be a remake of some sort if it's to
"win back fans"

>>380941253
Doesn't MGS1 already have a remade? And MGS3 has a few ports already. Could it be MGS2 related?

>>380938947
Hopefully new writers to reconstruct the whole shit show.

>>380941405
MGS has less ports than MGS2
Both appear in the same 7th gen HD collections
2 got a PC/Xbox heug version, 3 got a 3DS version

>>380941405
The only remake MGS1 had was the gamecube exclusive version.

>>380940236
This desu

MGSV was nice though

Fuck yeah, MGS HD pachinko edition!

I just want mgs 1-4 on pc and ps4 please.

>>380942169
instead of fucking with Kojima's lore I just want Konami to recreate the whole series in the Fox Engine.

dont add any new plot points to the series Konami.

that or a straight up reboot keeping the name only.

>>380942278
Fox engine would be awful for the old games. Twin snakes got the mgs2 engine and ruined mgs1. Just update thw graphics to look like the pachinko games.

>>380939442
4 is good if you just accept that the cutscenes are long. It was mostly made as a fan service and to bring tons of nostalgia to fans of the series. It's also "really makes you think..." - The game. I loved it.

>>380939219
>Chances are they're just doing a box set remaster of MGS1, 2, 3, peace walker and 4

If it was for PC I'd buy it so fast they'd shit their pants.

>>380942364
but Twin Snakes was still MGS1 gameplay wise I mean to have the same overall plot of the series but have all of the gameplay be different and in Fox Engine.

MGS1 in Fox Engine would be a huge map that you explore instead of just being connected by vents and corridors.

its the only way you could get me interested in replaying the series or coming back for what Konami has to offer.

>>380938947
I'm entirely convinced it will be nothing.

>>380938947
a bet nothing will happen.

I really just want any new mg game comming. I dont care if kojima makes it or not

>>380942661
The Fox engine is amazing, and I just can't believe Konami would spend so much time and money developing it to use it in only one game.

But, remakes are long and involved, and how many people out there are really holding their breath for MGS1, 2, 3, and/or 4 to be remade in that engine? I can't imagine it's many people. I can imagine the shitstorm here if any of those games are remade and it's the big announcement, /v/ tends to hate shit like that and MGS fans are likely the same. Sure, I think we'd all like to play any of those remakes, but it's not something we're super duper excited for.

>>380942415
Is 4 worse than 2 in terms of cut scenes? I thought 1 wasn't too bad, but 2 was kind of crazy in terms of codec calls and cut scenes. I loved the story and the game play was great, but man I was really sitting around for a long time just watching the story unfold.

I haven't finished 5 and I haven't started 4 yet (almost done with 3, really enjoying myself so far). Maybe they'll unveil a remake of MG1 or 2? I think that'd be a really interesting idea, and I think a lot of fans would react to that better than a remake of any of the other games.

>>380940790
Sadly the konami debacle took kojima off the hook. Game would have had an extra shitty level with a bunch of nigglets you can't shoot. Whoopty doopy doo what a fucking shame.
It would still be the same half assed open world game if konami hadn't done anything, the mostly sour taste the game left is on kojima not konami.

I want someone else to take the realm. They should start with a fox engine remake of a major title to kick things off plus the budget survive title. Just stay away from the V storyline there's no salvaging it, there's hardly a storywriter alive today that could fix that train wreck. No ruse no chapter 3, just bury it.

>>380939045
>last year a konami rep confirmed major announcements were being saved to "win back fans" on the 30th anniversary of the series.

VR sex simulator with Snake, Liquid, Meryl and Mantis.

>>380943337
>But, remakes are long and involved, and how many people out there are really holding their breath for MGS1, 2, 3, and/or 4 to be remade in that engine?

at least a Fox Engine remake of MG 1 and 2 as one game would be worth my time.

>>380943337
>I can imagine the shitstorm here if any of those games are remade and it's the big announcement

There would be riots in the streets, like if a Canadian city won or lost the Stanley Cup but global.

>>380940790
>We've always sorta known that Kojima was crazy in a bad way when it came to writing without Tomokazu Fukushima
What the fuck are you talking about?
Fucking no one knew who Tomocuck Memeshima was before MGSV.
This franchise has been completely worthless since MGS2.

>>380943337
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-5000/longest-cutscene-in-a-video-game/

>At 71 minutes of length. The longest individual cutscene is 27 minutes, which happens to be within that 71 minute sequence of the same game.

>MGS4 holds 2 world records for:

>1.) Longest cutscene in a video game, at 27 minutes.
>2.) Longest cutscene sequence in a video game, at 71 minutes.

I actually fell asleep during the last cutscene because it was late at night. It's far from bad, but it did feel ridiculous at times.

And remakes of MG1 and 2 would be lovely, as I could not get into the originals.

>>380940856
>Fukushima returns - MGS6?
>Complete edition of MGSV - apology for ruching it out
>MGS 1, 2, & 3 Collection in Fox Engine
>Or, MGS HD Collection for current consoles, including Twin Snakes directors cut with option for non-Matrix cutscenes, gameplay rebalanced for newer mechanics
>Ghost Babel HD

>>380941253
>It's GOTTA be a mgs1 remake right?
AHAHAHAHAHA
It's going to be a fucking MG Survive trailer and that's it.

>>380943337
>I just can't believe Konami would spend so much time and money developing it to use it in only one game
Don't they use the Fox Engine on PES?

>>380939295
Don't count on it. Metal gear survive was at e3 and nobody gave a fuck at all.

>>380943525
MG remake for the switch and 3ds with slightly improved sprites, another fashion show with japanese negro man and survive being f2p. Just imagine the shitstorm.

>>380940856
>Fukushima returns - MGS6?
And then what?
There's literally nothing else to tell.
Even Peace Walker and V were completely unnecesary.
Can't MGS simply die already?
Why does this have to go on forever?

>>380939045
yeah fucking right

>>380938947
Source, you faggot.

>>380939442
4 is good even if the story is all over the place. It's the definition of a good cinematic game, everything that's happening is in real-time and done so in such style that it's unforgettable even if all your doing with the controller is simple.

>>380943337
>The Fox engine is amazing
I keep reading this over and over again, that just proves that the MGS fanbase knows literally nothing about anything regarding videogame development.

>>380943885
>Can't MGS simply die already?
>Why does this have to go on forever?

Because you're just here to suffer.

>>380943967
>4 is good even if the story is all over the place
No, it's not, it completely, utterly destroys the entire story of the franchise.
It's so fucking bad, that not only it's a bad game, it ruined MGS2 and MGS3, and then went on to indirectly make PW and MGSV be shit because it had to follow the "your codec team are the illuminati" shit.

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>>380939219
I hope they do and make it for PC and Xbox as well.

Considering they already have the cutscenes for 3 rendered in fox engine it's probably going to be a MGS3 remake

>>380944064
Haha, le MGSV trailer quote, so epic, redditor.

>>380940790
What can you do in Infinite Heaven that apparently fixes the game?

>>380943768
Yikes, well I'll prepare myself mentally.

>>380943795
I don't know. I don't really play many video games and I didn't watch E3 or whatever.

>>380943968
Could you explain some reasons why it's bad? As far as I can tell it looks pretty good while not being a huge resource hog and the game play of MGS5 feels very smooth.

>>380944129
>>380940856
>>380941253
>this fucking delusion
Do you actually, unironically think they are going to do anything interesting ever again?
You are actually implying that the ones who made MG Survive are now going to make a fucking remake?
Are you absolutely retarded?

They actually thought MG Survive is what the fans wanted, you stupid idiots, you are getting a MG Survive trailer at most.

>>380942169
MGS 2 actually has a nice pc port that works well with some fan patch. Widescreen, 1080p, and controller support

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Are there people unironically looking forward to post Kojima MGS? This board is truly beyond saving.

>>380944327
>Could you explain some reasons why it's bad?
Could you explain the reasons why it's "amazing"?
Because in MGSV, aside from decent lighting, it has nothing going for it.
The textures are low res, poly count is very low, draw distance is a joke, NPC count is very low too, and 90% of the maps were flat ground.
And even then, ENB proves that the lighting in the game is incredibly washed out.

>>380944078
do tell why the gameplay is bad retard.

>>380944129
cutscenes and gameplay are entirely different things anon

>>380944460
Because after chapter 2 there's none?
And even then, it doesn't stand out in any way whatsoever.
It's MGS3 but with no menu crawling and finally you can aim like in actual good shooters.
It's functional, but that's it.
Also, hundreds of weapons that you are not supposed to use.
Incredible.

>>380943968
So what do you know about developing games using the Fox engine?

>>380944286
Want to know as well

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>>380943454
>>380943768
This. Metal Gear doesn't need Kojima I say bring it on. I want to see Solid and Grey Fox again.

MGSV remake xD

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>>380944553
>Because after chapter 2 there's none?

well that was fast

>>380944592
I know what i've seen from development diaries of MGSV, that it's a completely average engine that stands out in not a single way.
Sure, it runs good, but because most of the graphical features of MGSV are terrible.

>>380944646
>>380944286
You can spawn more stuff in the game, you can go in without guns, and more stuff happens in the map, like soldiers patrolling outside.
It's NOWHERE near fixed.

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>tfw Kojima gets BTFO when Konami makes a better metal gear solid than he ever did.
I can't wait.

Anything they would announce would be fine
Remakes, Ports to modern consoles/pc, MGSV Story DLC, MGS6, MGR Sequel, MGSurvive is cancelled

>>380944740
Oh wait, yes.
You have in chapter 3 a 2 hour long tailing sequence followed by the destruction of MGS3's story, and then you have 10 minutes of an on rails action sequence that i'd expect from Call of Duty.
Then a cringeworthy nostalgia pandering level on Shadow Moses ruined by the fact that instead of guards there's Gekkos, and that Crying Wolf is legitimately one of the worst boss fights in the entire franchise.
Then in Chapter 5 you sneak for about 5 minutes before you start getting hours and hours of cutscenes.

>>380944819
the only part of MGSV konami is responsible for is the microtransactions

think about this

>>380944903
>exaggeration: the post

The idea that Konami, if for whatever makes a new game, won't just produce whatever fadshit genre is popular is entirely delusional. At best they won't can MG: Survive.

>>380944941
Absolutely zero arguments: the post.
MGS4 is the opposite of MGSV, it actually made me wish it was unfinished so I had to endure it less.
Can't believe the franchise went on to get two more entries after that gigantic turd.
I have absolutely no idea what the fuck was Kojima thinking.

>>380939219
didnt that exact thing come out for ps3 for the 25th anniversary?

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>>380944819
Kojima got BTFO years ago. We don't need him.

>>380944965
Let MGS autismos crawl in their pathetic delusion.
Yes anons, your Fukushima is going to stop being a code monkey at SCE, come back and he's going to remake the entire franchise and sell all the games in a collection for $30.
Simply laughable.

>>380943445
>mantis
which
i'm down for screaming mantis.

>>380944775
Do you really think MGSV looks terrible though? It doesn't look as good overall as some other AAA games, but other than examining textures of rocks close up or something, I thought it looked pretty good for the most part. Though admittedly I haven't played it on 360/PS3, where I'm sure it looked pretty terrible. I found that it looked good enough that I didn't mind the graphics at all, which combined with the fantastic performance, made it feel great to play. That's a compromise I want more games to have.

>>380945047
I don't argue because my thoughts are opposite yours. I love the spectacle and I loved the variety of options you had. I thought most of the boss fights were cool and I liked a bunch of the fan service.

The only stupid parts were the connections to 3 which I agree on should've just been left alone but it seems Kojima is determined to make Naked Snake as lame as possible outside of the ending to 4.

>>380945110
What about it.

Caramel wasn't entirely wrong guys, Sony was holding back.
It'll be real this time, I believe it.

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>>380938947
its only going to be stuff for Metal gear solid survive
and their partnership with mondo to bring the metal gear and sold series soundtracks to vinyl
starting with MG1

>>380945050
the legacy collection was just a bundle of 1-4. It's quite literally just a reprint of 4 and the HD collection of 2, 3, and PW along with download codes for MGS1 and the MSX games.

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How can anyone possibly still be playing MGSV in 2017?

Death stranding is silent hills

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>>380945185
You actually think this thing looks good?

>Though admittedly I haven't played it on 360/PS3, where I'm sure it looked pretty terrible.
Pic related is PC maxed out.

>combined with the fantastic performance
No shit there's good performance, the graphics were garbage.

>>380945291
I still play it. FOB stuff is fun. It's a shame they absolutely gutted MGO3 though. Not launching with the main game absolutely annihilated it. I had trouble finding matches from day 1. The DLC splitting up the userbase even more just ruined it.

Its over son, let it go

>>380945209
Wasn't designed by Kojima or written and it was a great game that's story is better than anything after MGS3. It's proof that MGS doesn't need Kojima and without him it can actually be better too.

>>380945191
>I loved the variety of options you had
Yeah, you could sneak by or kill everyone in your way.

>The only stupid parts
Oh yeah, Ocelot rusing himself into thinking he was Liquid, nanomachines being the answer to everything, a 6 year old destroying the Patriots and retarded emo Raiden were GOAT.

>>380944917
So konami assigns and funds a game develpment team to make a new mgs.
Then directly tells then to add micro-transactions.
Doesn't really seem too bad, konami are just Jap-jews.
I bet Konami still has alot of great minds when it comes to game-development.
And i plus, if there's anything they would strive for with a new game, i would be to regain trust in consumers who hopped on the Kojima is the messiah of game development hype/ Konami is litterary Hitler bandwagon.
I mean think about it. If there's ever been a time to actually focus on making a good game that isn't a blatant cashgrab it would be now.

>>380945371
>only mgs game where you can't swim/survive in water
fucking garbage, mgsv was

>>380945291
Started playing it this week. Mission 8 and kinda bored. Thinking of modding it so I can just blow shit up.

>>380944434
I mean, I think it all looks fine. My PC is nowhere near top-of-the-line and it runs super smooth, same with GZ on my even older PC (built as a pretty low-end system back in 2011).

Do you think the fact that they released TPP on Gen 7 and Gen 8 consoles affected this at all? Were the copies all made to run on PS3s and 360s, which resulted in the PS4 and XBONE versions looking worse?

As far as the other stuff goes, I can only say that I don't see any issues. It's a subjective thing I guess, some people just aren't bothered by it as much.

>>380945452
>it was a great game that's story is better than anything after MGS3
How, exactly?

>>380938947
Time for more pachinko, lads

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I hope it's a new rising.
With next gen cutting power.

>>380945524
And MGS4, and Peace Walker.

>>380938947
please let it be PS4 HD collection

anything else I won't give a shit

>>380945652
except you can swim in MGS4

>>380945573
Go play it faggot, its like 6hrs long

>>380945494
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE

>>380945645
>it's a switch exclusive

>>380945551
>My PC is nowhere near top-of-the-line and it runs super smooth
No shit, look at that pic, everything farther than 10 feet looks like Far Cry 1.

>Do you think the fact that they released TPP on Gen 7 and Gen 8 consoles affected this at all?
Absolutely, it was a gigantic mistake and it's probably the reason there's so little stuff in the map.

The FOX Engine doesn't stand out in any way.
It runs good because it looks bad.

>>380945371
Yeah obviously the ugly screenshot you posted is ugly. But the majority of the game does not look anywhere near that bad. You can cherrypick ugly screenshots and I'm not gonna call you wrong for pointing out that they don't look great, but the animations and performance of the game made up for that for me.

>>380938947
JUST MAKE A TRUE MGS3 REMAKE THEN KONAMI FUCK OFF AND DO THEIR PACHINKO SHIT

>>380945504
>I bet Konami still has alot of great minds when it comes to game-development.
outside of Fifa they don't make games. Everything is outsourced.

>>380945756
>DUDE MGS4 TOTALLY WASN'T A MASSIVE PIECE OF SHIT LMAO
So, how long until you Zelda cycle redditors start defending MGSV as an "underrated masterpiece"?

>>380944646
>>380944286
Roaming Skull Units, Helicopter Patrols, convoys containing special weapons, drop-ins turn into "helicopter crashes," and more. It actually makes the free roam feel alive and has the dangers that you're threatened by in story missions.

>>380945645
Platinum did announce support for the Switch. I wonder what they'll do.

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>haha the ruse cruise never ends

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>>380945849
>made up for that for me.
Of fucking course it did.
Bad graphics = good performance.
It would be baffling if it ran bad on top of looking like this shit.

>>380945291
I sometimes choose to reopen the wound to see if I still feel.

MGS2:
>Awww yeah, Snake is back baby! Yeah, let's do this!
>Wait. Wait, who is this? This isn't Snake. Snake has brown hair. Who the fuck is this faggot?
>Okay, fine, this was actually a pretty good game. Let's hope the next game stars Snake again.

MGS3:
>YEAH, SNAKE. FUCK YEAH, YOU KEPT ME WAITING.
>...Oh. Oh, it's just Big Boss. It's gonna be a game about Big Boss. Get it, because he's a Snake too. Well, okay, that's kinda cool I guess.
>Yeah, alright, that really was the best game of the bunch. But I'm still hoping we get another game starring SOLID Snake.

MGS4:
>FINALLY, SNAKE IS BA--
>Oh. He's old.
>And he's dying.
>And everyone keeps shitting on him for being old and dying.
>He's gonna die in less than a year.
>That's it. No more Solid Snake ever again.

Peace Walker:
>More Big Boss.

MGSV:
>Even more Big Boss.
>Oh, wait, no, he's fake.

Hm.

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>>380938947
if you buy their game all you'll be doing is enabling them, so they can continue their awful practices
This isn't just about Kojima or mgs, you need to stop supporting Konami, nothing good will come out of it.

>>380945712
Don't worry, you can spoil it.
Why is the story good?

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>>380945887
I literally am only saying I like the game and it's worth a play. You're the one buttflustered posting giant walls of text telling me how
>IT'S THE WORST PIECE OF SHIT EVER MADE AND IF YOU ENJOY IT YOU'RE PROBABLY SOME INBRED LEDDITOR

i don't really care dude

>>380946018
Woah, thank you for recapping the franchise, reddit.
Where's the upboat option?

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Collections PC port complete with MGO 2 on Steam.

That would....my god. I'm just depressing myself honestly, they don't actually know what the fans want, old rich men in suits never do.

>>380946018
Big Boss is more interesting than Solid Snake. By a huge margin.

>>380938947
Jesus fucking christ, LET MGS DIE.
The entire thing already ended almost 10 years ago, and the ending was fucking terrible, stop trying to milk this dead cow.

>>380946159
Old, rich men are the future.

You know what they should do? De-canonize the whole franchise and continue the story where Metal Gear Gaiden left off. Pretend only Metal Gear 1, 2, Solid and Gaiden happen.

Konami doesn't give a shit about the fans. They are rolling in money. They're doubling down on gambling. The don't need gaming. They don't need you

>>380946018
MGS1 deserves a good remake, or maybe just a game that takes place between MGS1 and 2, or 2 and 4. I've always wanted another game about young David. Never liked Big Fag

>>380945712
>>380945452
>>380945110
>it's a "I never actually played Ghost Babel but i'm going to praise it because literally no one else played it and that way I can look interesting" episode
Ghost Babel stood out in no way whatsoever.
People just liked it because it was MG1 and MG2 on the go, which, back then, was amazing, but that's it.

>>380946196
Yes. I sure love watching this sad wreck of a man destroy his life and the lives of everyone around him.

A story where a broken man keeps doing broken things can be tragic and meaningful. Three stories in a row of him continuously doing that is just pathetic.

>>380946196
nah, Big Boss is just Solid Snake but more autistic

>>380946248
Any other unpopular opinions?
I'll try myself.
Please, make Metal Gear Solid Touch 2.

>>380946335
>A story where a broken man keeps doing broken things can be tragic and meaningful. Three stories in a row of him continuously doing that is just pathetic.

you didn't play MGSV did you

>>380939442

4 had some of the tightest gameplay of the series while still focusing on stealth over run-and-gun.

MGSV had great gameplay, but lent itself too much towards over equipping yourself and just blasting your way out of a situation if it went tits up.

If you're a fan of the series and fan service in general you'll love it. As the series is essentially dead now, it feels like the last true metal gear game as far as tone, humor, and story goes.

Just be prepared for a huge amount of cutscenes 8+ hours if you don't skip, and a lot of infodumps.

>>380946435
Everything that happened in MGSV is basically his and Zero's faults. So even though he wasn't in it for the majority of the game, it's still basically about him destroying everyone's lives. Partially. Zero's to blame as well, too, of course.

>>380945860
NO FUCK YOU
FULL ON KONAMI IPS REVIVALS
NO MORE FUCKING PACHINKO

>>380946446
>4 had some of the tightest gameplay of the series while still focusing on stealth over run-and-gun.
4 and V's gameplay stood out in nothing at all.
They played like generic shooters, but you could move around slower.

>If you're a fan of the series and fan service in general you'll love it
Yeah, he'll absolutely love seeing the plot of the entire franchise get destroyed and pissed on, while almost hearing Kojima laugh at all the autismos who spent a decade saying
>WOAH DUDE RAIDEN LOOKS LIKE A FAG XD
before changing to
>OMG MGS2 IS LE KINO, LE PREDICTED LE SJWs

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>>380946607
the amount of butthurt this poster is in is amusing

>>380939045
best case scenario, some kind of VR mission styled game where you can select any character of the franchise
top view with the old gameplay style for extra nostalgia points

>>380941702

Which:

>Went over the top of cutscenes and action
>Didn't tweak the game design to account for the added features they integrated from MGS2, which in turn made it
>Piss easy

Honestly though, I enjoyed it. It wasn't the original vision for the game, but the updated graphics and gameplay worked for me. But it wasn't how the game was intended.

>>380946663
Yes because actual redditors are trying to defend MGS4, and of course, failing at it.
MGS4 is a legitimately bad videogame and one of the worst stories ever written in videogames.

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>>380946196
>Big Boss is more interesting than Solid Snake. By a huge margin.
Pls explain how he is. Solid went through everything Big Boss did but after reflected on it and became a better person and his own man.Big Boss just obsessed about his Waifu Boss.

>>380946690
>>380939295
>>380939686
>>380940856
>>380941253
What the fuck are you all smoking.
It's going to be some shit like a vinyl of MGS soundtracks, a trailer for MG Survive and some toy or clothes line.

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>>380946713
>muh redditors

>>380946845
Who but redditors could defend the piece of shit that MGS4 was?

>>380946321
>METALGEAR=SOLID
>It's actually a remake of the first Metal Gear game. Not what anyone expected but still cool.
>It expands on the original game so it's quite a bit longer, but oddly, it's actually only about as long as Ground Zeroes.
>Oh. Oh wait. It's cutting to three years later. Now it's doing the Zanzibar Land mission. So it's actually a merged remake of MG1 and 2. Okay, that's pretty awesome.
>WAIT, NO. NOW IT'S CUTTING TO SIX YEARS LATER. WE'RE GOING TO SHADOW MOSES. THE OTHER TWO WERE JUST PROLOGUES, THIS IS THE REAL GAME.
>METALGEAR=SOLID
>METALGEAR: Metal Gear
>=: Metal Gear II
>SOLID: Metal Gear Solid

>>380946810
hence the "best case scenario" part, since you know, the best outcome to anything is the hardest to get

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>>380946873
>muh redditors

>>380946741
Solid Snake was also cursed with accelerated aging, and infertility, Snake had a much harder life than Big Boss, who shat up the entire fucking world because muh Boss, and got raped by a guy with just a lighter and furniture spray

>>380946881
It's Konami, the 3, including the MGS1 remake, would last the same as Ground Zeroes, and they would charge you $50 for each of them.

>>380943968

>Runs smooth
>Scalable enough to reliably run on anything from a fucking PS3 from 2006 to a badass PC rig
>Looks great, especially when it's not being forced to do open world bullshit

It does everything a game engine could ever hope to do. There are systems that look better, but aren't as scalable, but it does what it's meant to do very, very well.

>>380946909
MGS1/2 Hayter > Kiefer

>>380946962
>and infertility,
Big Boss's sperm doesn't work too.

>>380946741
BB built up an entire private army with the power of his charisma and skill alone. Not only once, but twice. He fought for the ideals that believed in and accomplished a shit ton.

SS inherited his skill from BB and was raised in VR pods where the Boss spent years in various SOF groups to hone his skills. SS has few friends and then got sick and old in record time. There's no way he has the drive or influence to pull off what BB did multiple times.

BB led a fuller, more interesting life than SS did.

I just want MGS2+3 on PC or modern consoles
fucking one of them, I can't stand these games being locked to the older gens

>>380947015
>Runs smooth
No shit, the graphics are trash.

>Scalable enough to reliably run on anything from a fucking PS3 from 2006 to a badass PC rig
As oposed to a game that runs well on a PS3 from 2006, and then runs like shit on a good PC?
And yes, it runs on a PS3, at 15-20 FPS at 960x540, PS Vita's resolution, and with grass spawning about 3 feet from you.

>Looks great
No, it doesn't, the textures are shit, poly count is really low, draw distance is terrible.
It's a PS3 game through and through.

Want an example of a TRULY scalable title?
GTA V
How come this game, set in a completely empty map with very little NPCs and in a map made 90% of flat ground, runs the same as GTA V, a game packed with stuff, a lot of traffic and featuring a big city, on PS360?
And how come this game, turned to max, actually looks up to 2017 standards?

>>380944078

MGS4 did not ruin the story. It just went full camp. It's greatest sin was the same every long running series does, not incorporating new characters and instead pinning plot points on established characters.

Making the patriots your old crew from MGS3 was a huge mistake. Making Paramedic fuck over Gray Fox was a huge mistake. Making Signint the one who developed the AI's was a huge mistake. Making Sigint Donald Anderson in MGS1 was a huge mistake.

It ruins those characters and the charm they held. Everything else, is forgivable under the flag of the MGS series being camp.

>>380947315
>MGS4 did not ruin the story
MGS3 are the illuminati, Ocelot rused himself, Raiden's entire arc in MGS2 is ignored and goes full emo.

>It just went full camp
It went full retard.

>>380947145
>There's no way he has the drive or influence to pull off what BB did multiple times.
>forgetting his days in philantropy, blowing custom metal gear Rexes with Hal while being funded by Nastasha
>implying his inlfuence to raiden wasn't important
also
>was raised in VR pods
that was raiden

>>380947145
>led a fuller life
Then why did Big Boss basically die a shell of a man, having nothing left to fight for, destroyed countless lives, and in the end, admit that his life was nothing but a series of mistakes? Meanwhile, Snake, despite everything he went through, had good friends by his side, affected people's lives for the better, and ultimately died with a smile on his face?

>>380947145
>BB built up an entire private army with the power of his charisma and skill alone. Not only once, but twice. He fought for the ideals that believed in and accomplished a shit ton.
No he's title built it up. He was known as the legendary Big Boss
>SS inherited his skill from BB and was raised in VR pods where the Boss spent years in various SOF groups to hone his skills. SS has few friends and then got sick and old in record time. There's no way he has the drive or influence to pull off what BB did multiple times.
Solid was not raised on VR, dummy. Also he has shit genes and made himself better than everyone else despite that. Also Solid could have done that same thing that BB did after killing him but he understood that it's not what the world would need.
>BB led a fuller, more interesting life than SS did.
In your opinion.

>>380945808
Have you seen how fast a programmer can make an entire level in that engine? It is highly impressive. The engine is a beast. It's too bad we won't see it used for anything outside of Pachinko's.

>>380945264

Mondo's going to do Metal Gear vinyl's? Holy shit, yes.

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If only Big Boss could see the results of his legacy. Well, I guess he can still only see HALF of his legacy.

>>380945153
>which
>i'm down for screaming mantis.

Psycho, sorry.

>>380946962
>Constantly betrayed and deceived by everyone
>Forced to kill his friend
>Witnessed countless other friends die before his eyes
>Learned that his greatest enemy was also his father and had to kill him to prevent all out war
>Tried to get away from it all but was dragged back in at gunpoint
>Injected with a nanomachine virus that kills certain people if he gets in range
>Learned he was a clone, saw his friend die for the second time
>Decide that if he can't get away from the battlefield, he'll at least use it for good by exposing Metal Gear and neutralizing their threat
>Whoops, AI government ain't having none of that and has him framed for terrorist activities
>Despite that, he still tries to live life by his own terms and does his best to keep the world safe from the threat of the Patriots and Metal Gear. Passes on his idealogies to Raiden.
>Turns out he has accelerated aging and is going to die within a year
>Also, the nanomachine virus inside him is mutating and could cause a pandemic
>But despite that, he still tries his best to clean up the mess his and the previous generation have left behind in order to secure a brighter future for the world, and succeeds.
>In the end, at the tail end of his life, he was able to put aside the gun and live as a man, witnessing the future the world that he saved would strive towards.

>>380946909
I adjusted to Sutherland almost immediately. But there's no fucking way my brain can connect Troy Baker's voice with Ocelot.

>>380940172
His phantom is (you)

>>380946335

Peace Walker felt like I was living a fever dream. Big Boss kept retreading discoveries that were cleared up in the tape that Eva left him, I felt like I was going crazy with him being hung up on the same bullshit despite having it revealed to him 10 years prior.

>>380944125
I want to lick Ariana's butthole

>>380947642
>hiimdaisy will never stop being a salty faggot about the metal gear / persona comics being infinitely more popular than her shitty oc donut steel comics

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>>380946607
>OMG MGS2 IS LE KINO, LE PREDICTED LE SJWs

>>380947892
But isn't that his entire character? Since the start of Operation Virtuous Mission in MGS3 to the end of MGS4, Big Boss' character basically boils down to him being hung up on bullshit from xx years prior. That's basically his core motivation. It's why he's been doing all this shit. It's pretty much the crux of half the conflicts in the entire franchise, the other half being Zero.

>>380946607
Metal Gear V is the best game in the series. The gameplay is quite nice. The only thing MGSV is missing were more cut scenes, but we have fags like you to thank for that.

>>380938947
>pissing on all MGS fans
>oh shit we're sorry, now give money
Nah.

>>380939045
Source now

>>380947759

The real Punished Snake.

>>380938947
When all this hope is extinguished between this shit and caramel I will etch this meme into the legacy of my own life

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Unpopular opinion:
MGS4 didn't ruin anything. I think it's just a natural conclusion to the series we were given (besides of course the hole that MGSV was designed to fill).
People went in expecting a masterpiece and got a good game instead, and chimped out because it didn't live up to their expectations.

My biggest complaints about it are actually:
>a whopping two fucking codec frequencies; no distinct line to Campbell, Meryl, and the like
>the music wasn't as good as previous installments, which was a big shame
>the boss fights could have used a little more creativity in the way that Crying Wolf made use of a really cool arena and atmosphere; and there needed to be more boss fights in general
>there's no actual metal gear fight besides the RAY duel which was really fantastic but not what the series is known for. It needed to be a 2-stage fight where REX craps out halfway through and you need to finish off Liquid's damaged but still souped-up RAY
>The accelerated aging shit was not needed at all outside of making his fistfight with Liquid more impactful and also ensuring Kojima doesn't have to make any more stories about him
>Act 3
>Act 5
>The general lack of callbacks to MGS2
>Less mindscrews than MGS2 (seriously Act 5 was the perfect opportunity, and they squandered it)

Outside of that, though, I really enjoyed it. It was an undoubtedly solid game. MGO2 was also a real gem.

>>380939045
No he fucking didn't. Stop this snowballing hyperbole bullshit.

A complete collection of everything, released on Xbox One is probably too much to ask for isn't it?

Maybe just the HD collection plus 4?

>>380947440
SS and Otacon fucking around and blowing up metal gears which probably didn't even all function is a lot different than BB leading an entire mercenary group with thousands of soldiers into various conflicts around the globe. If you want to compare the two, BB killed his fair share of bipedal tanks as well.

>>380947442
Just because BB died that way doesn't invalidate the entirety of the experiences he lived through. The fact he can even confront the fact that he made plenty of mistakes shows that in the end, his experiences humbled him and he could see the bigger picture in the end.

>>380947472
recessive genes aren't bad, they're simple recessive. There are a lot of parallels you can draw between BB and SS now that I'm thinking about it, they're two guys who walked similar paths to different ends. It was more the times which dictated what their values were. BB was betrayed by the US at a time when world politics were very volatile and a lot of small scale conflicts were occurring. BB's skills were in high demand, and so he figured out a way to capitalize on them while doing work he felt was beneficial (at least, at the time). SS was cast aside at a time when globalism and the consolidation of world powers were in effect, meaning the work that fit his skill set was much more nuanced. I think SS and BB could have been allies if the circumstances had been different, but they were what they were.

As far as fullness of life, BB lived much longer than SS and saw much more change as the years went by. Of course it's just my opinion, but the late 60s to mid 80s was a crazy time to be alive, and BB was in the driver's seat for all of it. BB accomplished a ton of things in his time, and even after his death his legacy lived on and inspired men to pick up arms in his name. You can't really say the same thing about SS.

>>380948582
at least MGO2 is coming back within a week or two

>>380947440
Philanthropy didn't blow up Metal Gears. They exposed them.

Death Stranding is Silent Hills
MGSV Chapter 3 will be confirmed at the 30th anniversary.
Its release will be 9 weeks after the release of the MGS 30th anniversary collection.

>>380948807
Big Boss fucked everything up and never stopped fucking everything up until he successfully managed to destroy the lives of just about everyone around him. And then, at the very, very end, he goes "Yeah, my bad" and croaks to Foxdie. His accomishments were all in vain and the only thing he ever succeeded at doing was hurting people.

Solid Snake's life was basically fixing all of his dad's fuckups.

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>>380948807
The Concept of Big Boss is more interesting but that wasn't the case for what was written. Kojima focused on all the wrong things about the character was too afraid to portray his downfall in a negative light which is the meat of his whole persona as Big Boss. Solid Snake's concept isn't as interesting but his Character was far more interesting from a written stand point. He had more weight to his character growth in MGS1 alone than Big Boss had in all his appearances.

>>380949887
that is beyond sad

>>380949887

Caramel did have a thing for starting Metal Gear threads, I'll give him that.

Damn shame he was absolutely retarded.

>>380938947
>KONAMI CONFIRMS ANNOUNCEMENT COMING
no source? and even if they confirm it would be a pachinko machine or more of that zombie game shit

>>380950180
This, how can OP say something like that and not leave a source?

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>>380949887
is he dead?

>>380950594
no, just filtered

mgs