You'll never be as talented as Toby Fox

>>380915184
Who?

>>380915184
Who?

>>380915184
he is genuinely good at making music, I'll give you that, homestuck included.

>>380915184
>tfw you will never make one of the most popular indie games of all time

just fucking KILL me senpai

>>380915184
I want to be talented in my own way.

>>380915370
Was this faggot part of homestuck? Well fuck that explains everything

Do you like replies, OP?

Do you love big, long replies in your tight thread?

Do you love it when Anons line up and fill your tight, little thread with (You)s?

>>380915184
Talent is just a multiplier for developing skill.
If you work hard enough, you can still get on his skill level.

>>380915613
He did music and lived with Hussie for a while when he couldn't find a place to live.

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>>380915184
Yes I will. It's just going to take some time, and a lot of effort. I just have to git gud, as they say.

tfw to intelligent too make minimum effort games for maximum monies

>>380915424
Do shills really believe this?

It's only sold like, two million copies.

That's nothing compared to the heavy hitters like Minecraft, Terraria, and Rocket League.

>>380915424

Aside from Minecraft, is there a more popular/successful indie game?

>>380915184
Did his name get shat out of the faglordian machine?

Toby is like the car seat headrest of videogames.

>>380915184
>never finished all his kickstarter rewards
>still no hard mode
Fuck Toby

>>380915801
And those are also some of the most popular indie games of all time, what's your point?

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thank god

>>380915801
Fuck off underage

>>380915184
I'm Phil the Red, Phil Fish's good twin. I'm going to drag video games into the 18th century, and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

>>380915962
Woah I never realized it was a kickstarter game until now

>>380915613
Eh im enjoying what I've read so far even if it has a nasty habit of making unoriginal/forced jokes, Toby Fox's songs are pretty good though in my opinion.

>>380915801
>2 million copies is considered "eh" by shitters

if i could sell 2 million of anything in something that i created almost completely by myself i'd be pretty happy

>>380915184
I never played Undertale. Is it good? uwu

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>>380915470
I just want to talented in any way

>>380916198
How far are you into it?

>>380916256
Yes, but faggots on /v will tell you it's not.

>>380916256
It is, I ended up staying up until morning finishing it yesterday
I cried like a little bitch and I'm not ashamed to admit it

>>380916431
half way through act 4, Jack has just ascended.

>>380916256
It's good.

>>380916542
You're still in the good shit then.

>>380916256
The story is good, the gameplay is babbys first bullethell. the characters are pretty good though. I think it's a solid game and a 8/10

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Thoughts on Tobyfox?

>>380916707
Yep, the trolls have just started to explain the story a bit so everything isn't a shitstorm of confusion anymore.

Yeah, I wish I was talented enough to rip off Earthbound.

>>380917001
Props for skipping bullshit questions like that

>>380917001
He seems like A nice guy but he also seems like A autistic child at the same time, sweet and innocent but I wouldn't want to spend time interacting with him socially.

>>380917030
Just pretend there's nothing after Act 5. After Act 5 is when it takes a complete nosedive.

>>380917213
Okie dokie skip.

>>380917132
Autistic people create some of the best things typically.
Sometimes.

>>380917132
just by the way you type i can tell that nobody wants to be around you either

>>380917093
Best way to identify someone who never played the game

>>380917367

Best way to identify an undermeme cocksucker.

bet

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>>380917132
But hanging out with ghost Toby was cool, I wouldn't mind doing that irl

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>>380917342
Yep, but I prefer being alone anyway.

>>380917471
Are you seriously under the impression that people shouldn't be allowed to be inspired by something and create something else because of the passion that created or are you just having a bad day?

>>380915184
Undertale isn't an amazing game by any means. It just had an interesting gameplay style to normies who never played bullethell games, even though I wouldn't consider it a bullet hell. Combined with the autistic fan-base that shat out immense OC, and still do, with characters that, while not well developed, had enough personality that normies snatched onto them. That and the game did a few things that normies thought were clever like Flowey knowing you killed toriel. Undertale is immensely over-rated just like many popular games are. I mean, that genocide run was some boring fucking shit that didn't even give us good fights besides like 2 of them. The fact that there was no muffet or Neo ex fight was bullshit.

>>380915613
His music for the comic was one of the last consistently good things in it.

>>380915184
I'd put money down he'll never make anything as successful as undertale again

>>380917809

It's less inspired by them, and more "Let's take a bunch of weebshit and weebshit memes and put them in a blender"

And it somehow got a fanbase more autistic than Starman.net shitters that praise the game as some holy masterpiece because muh feels.

The fact this piece of shit wasn't forgotten within a month is insulting.

>>380918192
yeah but even he's said that multiple times himself, hes taking the money and running which is what any sensible person would do.

>>380915801
2M is absolutely phenomenal for a PC exclusive. Now it's coming to PS4, and if he put out a smartphone port there's no doubt it would multiply that number manyfold.

>>380915184
Thank goodness! The amount of talent I would have to lose to be as talented as him is astronomical.

>>380918192
And he doesn't need to, he's already proven himself

>>380915370
>good at making music
making adventure time tunes take no talent tho

>>380918431
It's a good thing you have no idea what you're talking about then.

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>>380918431
Make your own music then.

>>380916256
>uwu
you already know the answer you blazing faggot don't you

>>380918095
>I mean, that genocide run was some boring fucking shit that didn't even give us good fights besides like 2 of them. The fact that there was no muffet or Neo ex fight was bullshit.
Genocide route was a neat side thing that was more about forcing you to live with permanent consequences for "just seeing what would happen." It's not supposed to be a desirable path, and filling it with any more content would have run counter to the point of the game.

>>380918382
Show us your game, anon. Surely you're not afraid to show us your massive talent

More like I'll never be as arbitrarily lucky as Toby Fox.

>>380918431
I disagree, undertale has a really good soundtrack.

>>380918290
It's really not, but keep spouting this for years to come if it helps you relieve something
Great Alphys impression though!

>>380918597
That's a shoddy excuse as much as "you're not suppose to fight muffet and Mettaton because you're too strong". There are ways to make it undesirable like actually making good characters that don't have 1 defining feature. Genocide route was shit and having 2 of the best fights of the game actually makes it worse because everything else about the route is shit. If you're going to do something don't half-ass it.

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>>380915184
Sometimes I wonder where I would be if I followed my passion for music instead of my passion for art and illustration.

>>380918910

Why are you so angry?

>>380919010
But I'm not?
I just don't see any point in continuing to argue with you when all you do is call it weebshit and a Mother ripoff, it's been said a million times before by people who have no more interest in it than giving it a quick glance

>>380918981
You can always pursue new arts at any time in your life. No reason you can't get into music now, and it's far easier these days than ever, and all you really need to start out is your PC.

Watch a few videos on YouTube about basic music theory and see how well you can follow it. Even if you don't turn it into a new hobby, you'll have a better understanding of how music works and come to appreciate the music you listen to better.

>>380918981
At least you didn't fall into depression and just give up like I did
You have one piece of the puzzle, just keep on keeping on

>>380918965
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A GRIND
Its a message on people who are cruel in games for no reason but to be cruel
So the game literally forces you to be cruel instead, making you see why it's a bad thing

>>380917674
can someone actually answer this?

>>380919235

If you're not mad, why are you so autistically defending it?

I don't like it, I think it's a shitty game, if you have a problem with that, shut up and accept it.

>>380915184
MIXEEEEEEEEEELS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>380919424
>Its a message on people who are cruel in games for no reason but to be cruel

This is some SJW tier stupidity and you know it.

>B-Buh think of the rights of 2D characters!!!

>>380919363
This.

It really isn't that hard to learn to read sheet music or about basic things like time signatures, keys, major and minor scales and how chords are made, I honestly feel like you can learn all this stuff in a week if you apply yourself to it.

>>380919430
THE SUN IS A MASS OF INCANDESCENT GAS

>>380919430
the sun doesn't burn dipshit, it's called fusion, it doesn't require oxygen to work.

>>380919665
what does that mean? i thought oxygen was a necessary component of fire

>>380919430
The sun isn't a ball of fire, it's a ball of plasma powered by fusion.

>>380919363
Yeah I know, I'll probably get into it later when I'm in a more comfortable spot, I just like to think about how different it would be.

>>380919597
I don't know if its a message so much as an attempt to engage with the player through the meta of rpgs.

>>380919708
so the sun is just continuously fusing together?
that's kinda kool

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>>380919597
>Being against violence is SJW now

>>380919740
WHERE HYDROGEN IS BUILT INTO HELIUM AT A TEMPERATURE OF MILLIONS OF DEGREES

>>380919740
Its not on fire, like some others says its fusion powered plasma. Basically its really hard to make stuff fuse but once you do it releases a ton of energy, that energy makes the sun really hot. So it looks like a ball of fire.

>>380919871
Yep, that's why it generates so much heat, it's fucking boiling in my room right now.

>>380919919
>>380919808
how come you guys know all this, i graduated too but i didn't know any of this

>>380919832
If in both timelines you eventually pursue both, you're probably better off on the current timeline where you got into illustration first. I'd say that's the harder one to get into later in life.

>>380920002
Literally 5 seconds in Google.

>>380920002
I payed attention in physics class.

>>380915184
It depends.
Musically speaking, i'm trying really hard, but i still don't think i'm a good composer as him
Pixel art speaking, he fucking sucks, those level designs in undertale gave me cancer until this day

>>380919424
That's one shit excuse. It's bad because I do not give a fuck about the shit I'm killing, there's no emotional investment. On top of that killing shit that's trying to kill you is the norm. Out of all the ways to try to make the point of "what you're doing is cruel and wrong" grinding is not the way to do it. It makes the player annoyed at having to spam a button. The song change and text message are infinitely better at pushing that point across, the grind disrupts the flow of the game and makes the player care less and more impatient to get to the next point. It's bad design and retards defend.

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>>380920116
>until this day
Congratulations on beating cancer, anon.

>>380919940
Then why doesn't my yugioh cards burn up when i fuze monsters?

>>380920107
But not in English apparently

>>380920116
he is good at making music but don't be fooled, a lot of his songs are just remix's of others originals or his other songs he just speeds up/pitch bends.

>>380919880

Only narcissistic attention seeking assholes claim to be "against violence"

It's like being "against rape" or "against terrorism"

or "against getting stabbed in the eyes"

>>380920309
He is good at using music. Undertale has good music but its usage of music is more impressive.

>>380920312
I'll let you know one thing.
men need to be taught to not rape.
i firmly believe all men are born with the urge to rape women.

>>380920309
Yes, i pretty much know that, but that doesn't give him less credit at being a good composer
>>380920283
I'm sorry, english is not my main language

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>>380915184
this thread is asking for salty fucks and unsuccesfull artists.

have one big lucky project doesnt make you a talented artist.

come back in 10 years, and lets see how much new shit has he done.

toby will be a lesson of never giving up on your dreams, because luck only works ONCE.

pic very related.

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>>380920298
OMG I JUST GOT FUCKING ANALLY RAPED BY THE RETORT POLICE.

>>380915184
>talented
>most of the tracks have the same motifs in them
>talented

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

>>380915184
Not a talented game dev nor music composer, sure... but i damn good at drawing boobs, that's my talent.

>>380920495
can i be your main language anon~?

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Yeah but

>I'll never suck Toby Fox's dick and lick the ground he walks on like his autistic fanbase

>>380920591
prove it

>>380915370
>homestuck
That explains everything.

>>380919871
one weird thing to thing about is if you dumped a sun-sized amount of water on the sun, it wouldn't put it out or anything, it would just "burn" even hotter
the reason it undergoes fusion is because of the large amount of mass it has, making gravity so strong that it pushes atoms together, so adding the water would only increase the mass allowing more fusion to occur, making the sun burn hotter and brighter

>>380920591
Show us your titty drawings anon

>>380918965
>you're not suppose to fight muffet
I understand Mettaton, but the full Muffet fight is still there and if you wait around instead of killing her immediately she has a completely different set of dialogue during the fight.

>>380920653
so if adding anything to the sun would merely increase the mass resulting in a larger sun.

I'm learning!

>>380919665
The sun is a *miasma of incandescent *plasma

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>>380920693
>she has a completely different set of dialogue during the fight
It is astounding how there is still shit in this game I didn't know about.

>>380920846
Those are stars retard.

>>380920975
I didn't notice it changed to the musical in mettatons song either.

>>380920693
Is the fight any different? Because if it's the same it doesn't really matter as sharktits was a pretty good fight. Honestly, sharktits and sans are the only reason genocide is even liked.

>>380921140
Yeah, it's the same fight, and it's pretty trivial since you're so overpowered that it's nearly impossible to die even if you don't just one-shot her, but the dialogue makes it a bit more interesting. It's more than other minor bosses like the gay knights have in genocide.

>>380920312
>Only narcissistic attention seeking assholes claim to be "against violence"
*and martial artists

>>380921241
Always meant to find this out: What happens if you break off a genocide route? Like, suddenly sparing muffet?

>>380921335
Can someone explain that to me? You literally learn that shit for the sole purpose of beating the living fuck out of someone. How in God's name could you end up being against violence?

>>380921403
You don't fight Sans and the game reverts to a standard neutral run afterward. If you fuck up on killing all of the monsters in each area, Mettaton will point it out to you.

>>380921403
There's honestly not much to it. There are a couple alternate cutscenes but only at a few points, and sparing muffet doesn't have anything. I think the only points of interest if you break it off suddenly are after the Papyrus fight, and sparing Monster Kid. Undyne the Undyin and NEO Mettaton both can't be spared.
There's one ending that can only be gotten if you do a genocide right up to killing Undyne the Undying and then stop before getting to Mettaton and/or cherry-tapping him (hitting him with a weak attack instead of getting him near the center still OHKOs him but it nullifies the route for some reason, which I'm sure has pissed off at least a few people playing blind) where Alphys becomes the new ruler of the underground, as well.

>>380921546
Because you learn discipline as well, my teacher literally told me the first day "the best form of defence is to run away" and he's right, martial arts are there as an emergency measure if there is no peaceful way to get out of a situation.

>>380915184
Talented at what exactly? His talent certainly isn't game design or artstyle. I'm not exactly wowed with the music either, which was supposedly the main selling point of that shitty game.

i feel really bad for toby. he didn't want this fanbase. he just wanted to make music and games and they followed him from homestuck.

i think we all need to stop criticizing toby for things he can't control, i didn't even mean for furries to latch onto this game.

>>380922332
Triggering autists on /v/

I hate that furry faggot. He thinks he's a dog, he needs to be gassed.

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>>380922332
>I'm not exactly wowed with the music either

Oh come on now, dude. My #1 criteria for buying indie games is that I look up the music and see if it's good first.
And I bought the game after listening to like one track.

And then I saw Megalovania on the track list and knew I was in for a Homestuck fanbase.

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>that game you somehow threw together will never be as popular as Minecraft

>>380922937
Show us

>>380915370
This. I wouldn't say he's anything special in any other area, especially art.

>>380922802
I just don't find it impressive. Granted, Zun is my gold standard, who also is a one man show.

>>380915184
Its actually easier than you lil shit posters think

1: get dug into a internet group
2: do some shit for it as it grows
3: now everyone sucks your e-dick, time to drop that RPG maker trash onto steam
bonus points for straight up copying classic FF, zelda, mario and/or chrono trigger

>>380922937
I'll play your game anon

>>380922506
stop being an appologist.

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>>380916283
>Literally 5/10 at everything I do

>>380921403
At best a tiny amount of flavor dialogue, at worst ruining your run and getting you a shitty neutral ending. The lack of variation is one of my biggest criticisms with the game, considering how short it is how few boses there are, and how heavily it pushed the kill or spare options.

>>380920653
then how come jupiter isnt like the sun

>>380923475
>make your own music and art from scratch
>find your style
>get a fanbase thats being growing for more than 7 years
>make a game that reaches the pope
prove it

>>380920610
Only if you have a cute penis

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>>380923265
>Zun is my gold standard

anon...
those are remixes...
the actual music in-game sounds pretty dodgy...

>>380915184
I'm at least a better artist, and I'm not that good.

>>380923691
count every mass on the solar system and the sun is more than 99% of all the mass.

thats how fucking massie you have to be to start fusing matter.

>>380923921
I'm talking about the MIDI originals though, trumpets and all.

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>Makes a game completely by himself
>Makes an entire program just so the music can be authentic
>Releases it completely for free.
Toby may be based, but he's not as based as Pixel.

>>380923691
Jupiter is way smaller than the sun

>>380923919
I'm 5'5 122lbs and a 5.5 inch penis
a-am i good enough for you?

>>380915184
I've never tried; I could end up being just as talented if not more than him. Same goes for every anon on this thread. We should all try before we affirm we could never accomplish what he did.

>>380924235
I can't understand imperial units and i'm too lazy to translate to normal people units so i don't know

>>380924181
Good taste there, anon, i'm still waiting for another game of his since Kero Blaster

>>380924181
There are a lot of devs that shit all over Toby. Zun, Pixel, ConcernedApe, etc.
Toby did one thing particularly well and had a huge fanbase from the get go to back him up. Add some lolsorandum, SJW, furshit, 4th wall breaks, and he was set.

>>380915184
really weird that this fandom is really autistic at the par of sonic and fnaf, but not even the furries of the game are as popular as the manlet skeleton and his autistic brother.

>>380924161
bruh

undertale just reeks of 'remix' and 'inspiration' to me. there's way too much similarities to other games for me to fully enjoy it. it really does just feel like earthbound: tumblr edition

>>380924181
pixel is my animal spirit

>>380924268
Hell, Toby never played a note in his life until he was 17 or something. The talent in Undertale's soundtrack comes from like 7 years of hobby work since then.

>>380924660
i dont think you understand eartbound if you think undertale feels just like that.

>>380924575
Furries are always on the lookout for things that push the line even further into degeneracy. Ectoplasmic boners pushed that line.

Toby's seems to be pretty down to Earth and a nice guy though. He could've turned out much, much worse given his success. Endlessly churning out shit spinoffs and sequels, sucking his own dick in interviews, proclaiming Undertale to be the game of the generation, etc. Instead he's pretty quiet and keeps to himself, and doesn't try to act like his game is anything more than it is. Regardless of what you think of Undertale, I think that's pretty commendable. Just look what happened to other indie devs when they hit the big time.

post best toby fox songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75kJb_aAvKY

>>380924865
Scott?

>>380924865
I raise you a Phil Fish and counter you with a ConcernedApe.

I don't even like Stardew Valley all that much, but ConcernedApe is the ideal one man dev who can do it all, is humble, and continues to support his game after release with substantial updates.

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>>380924181
Damn straight.

>>380915184
Everything about Undertale makes me think Toby was so complete;y up his own ass that he knew the game would sell gangbusters. No self respecting douche would say A TOBY FOX GAME during the ending like he was the second coming of Kojima or something.

>>380925280
Yeah fuck that guy for putting his own name at the end of his OWN game he spent time working on, what a selfish asshole. God, he likes his work being recognised, what a dick.

>>380925069
ConcernedApe is cool too. I know /v/ likes to shit on Stardew Valley and Undertale, but I think being humble and having reservations goes a long way into making a sucessful product. Many indie games nowadays try and make the scope of their game way beyond what it's capable of. Yooka-Laylee, MN9, Star Citizen, etc. Hollow Knight, Stardew Valley, Undertale, Shovel Knight, Furi, etc. all feel pretty grounded and have clear direction in what they want to be, and you can see this reflected in the devs.

>>380924928
>not Savior Of The waking world or black.
God anon, really.

>>380924181
>Pixel made an entire chiptune format for his game which, to this day, is the only indie game that plays music like a retro game would
>Toby can't figure out how to loop music properly in gamemaker so he just loops the entire sound file

>>380925462
I've actually never seen anyone shit on Stardew Valley. I've seen people say it's not really their cup of tea, or that they don't like the art, but never shit on it.

>>380925657
i want cascade fags to leave.

>>380924181
Pixel is pretty god damn based.
I hope he lives well, he's talented enough to work in a comfortable place.

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>>380925657
>Savior of the Waking World and Black

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>>380915919
Touhou, probably

>>380924181

LITERALLY

WHO?

>>380915919
It's hard to top minecraft. It'll sell more copies than the original Mario Bros soon, if it hasn't already.
Touhou is HUGE in japan though.

>>380924865
Yeah, he tends to remain fairly humble despite it's massive praise from steam users and game journos. He's even well aware of how much people hate the game and it's fans, as can be seen in the tongue-in-cheek self-deprecating jokes made about the upcoming PS4 release.

>>380915991
Steve isn't looking so good here
What kind of compression have you put the poor guy through?

>>380917132
He's definitely a bit autistic. Canceled his GDC appearance at the last minute. Though understandable, considering the game was fresh and he'd probably get trampled on the expo floor by manchildren and students.

>been a year
>still no hard mode or news of a sequel
>fans pumping out fan games left and right every couple of months

He's a lazy hack.

>>380926597
>we'll never get the official comics
>no alarm app either
FUCK Toby. Did he ever say anything about his stretch goals?

>>380915370
>>380915184
He is not talented, but he does work hard, from what I can tell, which is more than I can say for most developers.

If only he had higher expectations and his standards were above the average fur fag.

As much as I do like his music, that is the thing he worked least on, as it was mostly plagiarized from other video game OST, or remixes of songs he made for rom hacks a few years prior.

Fan base is terrible and all that, but as for Toby Fox himself, as developer, I give him a 5.5/10, which by today's standards equals around a strong 7.

>>380915184
I don't need talent all I need is hard work!
ZUN is more of a role model for me than Toby though

>>380925773
The only real shitting concerning that game is some obnoxious SVfags tend to invade Harvest Moon/Story of Seasons/Rune Factory threads and shit on those games.

The harshest thing I've ever seen directed at SV is "it's not as good as [the above games]."

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>>380926828
>that is the thing he worked least on, as it was mostly plagiarized from other video game OST, or remixes of songs he made for rom hacks a few years prior.
There's probably only one example of each of those claims you could name. MAYBE two, if you have an example pull double duty.
That soundtrack has a lot of painstaking effort put into it. It was so important to him, that the first thing made for any fight, location, or scenario in the game was the song that went with it.

>>380927829
No anon has a point, if you listen to it in it's entirety you can hear the main theme "undertale" used a lot throughout it, don't get me wrong it's one of my personal favourite soundtracks but I do personally believe he used THAT song a tad to much.

>>380922641
>he thinks he's a dog

This has to be bait

>>380928252
Leitmotifs.

>>380928252
There are like 15 to 20 themes used multiple times throughout the game, that's part of what makes the OST good. It associates ideas with those themes and returns them sporadically to trigger your memory. It's a legit musical technique, and the extent that Undertale uses it goes light years past the point of being accidental.
Undertale is used the most often because that's the most important theme.

Congratulations anon, in a attempt to shitpost you actually made an interesting thread where people discuss why they either like or dislike undertale, good job.

>>380928252
It's called theme.

>>380917294
I'm not the guy you replied to, so take this with a grain of salt. That said, IMO, while the first half of Act 5 is a real slog, the second half is an amazing build up to what I think is the best part of the comic. As soon as you finish Act 5, STOP READING. If you want to remember Homestuck as "that really cool webcomic that I liked", then STOP READING AFTER ACT 5. I cannot stress it enough.

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>>380928792
I'm not saying that I don't understand why he did it, I'm just saying that for my own personal experience I started to believe it was being slightly overused, I still enjoyed it and I'm glad other people do to, still I can have personal constructive criticism's, but at the end Of The day it's someone else's art.

>>380928914
Thanks
I'm glad it sparked a lively thread

>>380929324
But I've been hearing that collide is the ultimate moment that makes the stuff past act 5 worth it, it seems that half the fanbase likes act 6 onward and the other half doesn't, but I would like to finish it in it's entirety at this point.

>>380929325
Okay then.
I was only acting up because the point the other anon tried to make about the OST being low effort really rustled me.

>>380929538
A bunch of shipping drama happens.
The final battle happens offscreen.

There, I just spoiled the biggest letdowns. You can now finish reading Homestuck and with less unpleasant surprise than the rest of us.

>my non-existent work will never have as cancerous of a fans as Undertale does

>>380930285
alright, I'll keep that in mind anon, thanks.

>>380916256
It's great just don't mention it on /v/

>>380916256
It's good, but it has low replayability like pretty much every other RPG.

>>380916256
It's hit or miss. If you don't care about the characters, you won't like the game. Music is impressive, and it has a few neat moments, but the gameplay is subpar and it really tries to beat you over the head with its morality.

>>380924412
>122 lbs
>5'5
He is fucking tiny

>>380919424
I hate this excuse. Genocide is complete ass to play through, it doesn't matter if that was intentional or not. It doesn't change the fact that you're punished for playing through a legitimate route in a game you paid for.
There are a plethora of ways genocide could have been extremely difficult to complete, but the game took the easiest route possible to accomplish it.

>>380924412
>I can't understand imperial units
That means the your country doesn't interact with the US much, if at all, which means that your country is unimportant and probably malignant.

>>380932256
Do you Americans not realize how brainwashed and self-important you sound?
You are extremely naive if you think your own country is anything but malignant.

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>>380931482
I'm pretty sure the idea for genocide came from "What if you killed all the monsters instead?", instead of "What if I had a route in which you are an asshole and it's hard?".
It's not necessarily something I'd put in a "good game design" canon. It's purposely designed to be actively unfun, and is only coincidentally difficult. The way you engage genocide is like breaking a game's anti-grind system. It really is just an uncomfortably long meta joke. Ironically the only blemish in the whole charade is having an actually well-designed fight in the whole thing.

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>>380915184

You will never be as talanted as Cboyardee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8Yp3Pdo4ho

>>380920116
Post music

>>380924526
>ConcernedApe
>not sjw shit
w e w

That's fine I'm not a musician, a video game maker or an art fag.

>>380918643
>Making video games
>Talent
no, that just takes time

>>380933931
>>380919424
The only essential purpose of genocide was to have the player make a genocide which is a story element. They could've made it fun and as long as the dialog was kept you'd get that he was cruel and kills monsters

>>380935123
I'm talking raw capability. ConcernedApe is leagues beyond Toby in that regard. Stardew Valley is a far more impressive endeavor than Undertale for a variety of reasons. Especially when it's been built entirely from scratch.

>>380935454
Might as well, the quicker to bump limit the faster the thread dies.

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>>380935454
Time to post some mu'uhfuggin B U R G S

I dunno, I am working on a sandbox mmo with a hidden meta-game arg which should hopefully keep people invested and gain a lot of traction
So I might

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>>380935804
That is the worst post in this entire thread.

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>>380935804
I home theres zombies, crafting and survival elements :^)

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>tfw you will always be more talented than Toby Fox

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it must be both a blessing and a curse to have one of the most cancerous fanbases on the face of this earth

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>>380935441
I have no problem with genocide existing, and I was pretty satisfied by neutral/pacifist, which is the meat and potatoes of the game.
It's just one of those things.

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>>380924181
>dressed up in a frog onesie to promote Keroblaster a couple years ago

>>380935486
Doesn't matter. Stardew Valley has significantly more degeneracy than tumblrtale. Both are garbage, tumblr moon is worse.

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>>380924181
And he's actually an Artist who makes 10/10 characters, unlike Toby

>>380934470
A man cursed to hating memes and turning everything he touches into a meme. Being CBoyardee is suffering.

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> Honest criticism of game/noting comparisons with EarthBound
> REEEEEEEE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU TROLL IT IS 10/10 GOTY

looking at you
>>380916453
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>>380918643
>>380918910
>>380919235

Probably all the same person but whatever. People like you are why everyone says the fanbase is cancer.

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>>380915184
Define talented please.
I'd say TF is pretty good with music and knowing how to create a story/characters that pander to autists/furries but thats pretty much it.

His art and the actual gameplay of Undertale isn't really great or talented at all. Below average to average at best.

I mean I'm happy for the dude that he made it but then again he also knew what terrible autism he would unleash yet he didn't really care.

>one artist has this very specific McD and Rumia fetish

Another day I'm glad I didn't kill myself.

>>380936926
It kind of does matter because a developer's capabilities was the entire point of the conversation.

Stardew Valley is only SJW in the sense you can marry whoever you want regardless of gender. It doesn't really try to say anything beyond that and it's obvious why it would be beneficial from a gameplay perspective even if it's shallow and doesn't really mesh with their personalities.
I'd say Undertale is more egregious.

>>380937565
It's no secret that Undertale is Mother inspired.
Calling it a "shitty tumblr Earthbound ripoff" happens to cross a line for everyone that likes the game, if you can believe it.

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>>380915184
>Game doesn't even actually have RPG elements
>Genocide is unfinished
>Some bosses are scripted because of muh feels
>muh MOTHER inspiration
>"LOL ANIME XD"
>"Hi i'm Temmie xd"
>A lot of songs are another song but sped up or slowed down
>His most popular song Memelovania is reused from his Romhack and Homestuck

Yeah shure.

>>380920467
>need
if its a biological urge it should be encouraged as those are developed for the survival of the species

>>380915184
His only talent is music

>>380916256
Its great and its even funnier since /v/ gets triggered hard by it now despite loving the demo.

>>380915184

i tried

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1hM0sMZXoL6

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>>380938671
>>Genocide is unfinished
How so? I'm pretty sure some bosses being anticlimactic is intentional. If you want to talk about unfinished content you should bring up Hard Mode instead.

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>>380918431
>making adventure time tunes take no talent tho

>>380941376
When will you fags stop saying this shit and acting like /v/ is one person? It's obvious why it got shit on to anyone who isn't delusional. During the demo you kept to yourselves. After release you couldn't go three posts without seeing an annoying reference or post saying undertale shits all over every other game. If you could contain your autism, nobody would have given you any flak.

>>380941589
Pretty atmospheric. I like it.
Is it supposed to be for a dungeon or something?

>>380941884
idk nigga i just barely made it

>>380941743
>will you fags stop acting like /v/ is one person? /v/ hated Undertale!

>>380941928
Mighty fine reading comprehension

>>380936971
that is a cute cat

>>380942248
to
>>380942095

damn

>>380942248

Its not for a videogame its for listening it can be whatever you want it to be. :)

Probably will never get finished.

>>380942325
What was I supposed to take from that autistic mess of a post?

>>380941743
That's every popular game now, ever since like 2014. It's a phenomenon on every board too, things getting shit because of oversaturation. Like all those Gothic threads, or threads talking about how no game is more "kino" than Bloodborne.
At the tail-end of 2015 it was obvious most anons we're just making Undertale threads to annoy people and shitpost.

>>380942386
To make sure you're responding to the right fag, fag

>>380915184
I still remember the first week before the game got popular and a cancerous fanbase, so many people on /v/ were in love with the game and discovering the gaster stuff just after getting the endings.

>>380942667
I was obviously referring to:
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>>380942603
>things getting shit because of oversaturation
I've never seen it that bad. Not even BoTW, a game the genuinely deserves a fair chunk of the praise it got, felt nearly that bad. It wasn't limited to just 4chan either.
And that's just one thing out of many. A lot of people took issue with it for different reasons.

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>>380942794
The demo threads were pretty great

>>380942975
You shouldn't have to have that post explained to you. I don't know how you would draw the conclusion that I was trying to say /v/ hates undertale from it. After all, were you lot not on /v/?

>>380943134
>A lot of people took issue with it for different reasons.
Name some of these issues that aren't "the Undertale tumblr fandom is awful", because I'm genuinely curious.

>>380921007
>sun
>not a star

>>380943134
There are several reasons why it was particularly bad for Undertale, but I genuinely think that's all there is to it.
I don't really like the idea that people should take responsibility for a fanbase's enthusiasm, because that's kind of impossible and also straight up weird.

>>380943134
>A lot of people took issue with it for different reasons.
No they didn't, you just get triggered by obvious fucking bait so people kept doing it. Undertale threads are easy stuff to get posts in.

>>380943317
Not saying these are "right", but the game has obviously been dumped on for some fairly petty reasons, such as sjw, lgbqt, furry, etc.
There are people who don't like how similar undertale is to other games.

Some took issue with how the game was heavy handed with its morality and outright punished those who didn't conform to it.
People had legitimate issues with the game itself, which was made worse if they tried to discuss them, only to automatically be labeled as shitposters. This happens a lot with popular games, but it can be enough to turn a gripe into something more.

This is related to the fanbase, but I still think it's worth mentioning.
You had things like the gamefaqs poll being raided. You also had steam and metacritic reviews that would claim things like "beyond perfect" or "takes a dump on every game made in the past ten years" with thousands of upvotes whereas those who disagree would be hit with things like "you have no soul".

I feel like there are others, but this is just what I could come up with off the top of my head.

>talented
>using game maker

>>380945213
>
This is related to the fanbase, but I still think it's worth mentioning.
You had things like the gamefaqs poll being raided. You also had steam and metacritic reviews that would claim things like "beyond perfect" or "takes a dump on every game made in the past ten years" with thousands of upvotes whereas those who disagree would be hit with things like "you have no soul".
Honestly if any of these make you hate the game you're probably underage. Its a single player game. Its like hating Final Fantasy VII or OoT simply because of all the praise people heap on those titles.

>>380945548
They don't like the game to begin with, so when people start claiming that game as the best, it can be taken as an insult to the games they do like.
Petty? Perhaps. But it is a reason why their dislike can turn to hate.

>>380915184
He definitely had a vision going when he made this game.
He's a talented composer and he knows more programming than any of us will ever learn so props to him

>>380946252
>game maker
>programming

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>>380915184
I am, I just need motivation

Been slowly working on a fighting game for 2 years with some friends but I care more about the characters and the story than the actual game

I admire his music and the way he's able to drive themes into the game and really make it all work together.
Determination in particular is something that no-one else is really able to use without being labelled a copycat, because it's such a nice and straightforward concept, similar to TTGL's mechs being literally powered by willpower and strength of spirit.

>>380946319
Huh. Didn't know he resorted to that. Im less impressed now.

>>380942794
Just like MLP?

>>380915184
I'll also never be a jewish beta manlet, thank god

>>380949094
Yeah, you'll just be a beta manlet LMAO