ITT: Potentially great games ruined by greedy developers

>>380914681
ruined as much by its name holy shit

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>>380914681

So, any game were you can build your own dungeon and not be limited by the same shit as OP's game?

>4 posts
>warframe still not posted

Planetside 2

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>>380914681
Trust me, take two gor rid of OpenIV because they're gonna implement paid mods soon.

>>380915530
It was to cut back on hackers making shark cards useless

>>380915738
Oh boy, that's just the start

Fallout 4 & Starwars Battlefront

>>380914681
The game was ruined by you stealing resources from other players. That type of game interaction results in people doing the most frustratingly bullshit to avoid resources being stolen from them. I think the methodology of choice from the beta was people using some healer paired with a big tanky enemy that had a special ability to protect one nearby enemy. So what you ended up fighting was a tanky monster that was healing at a rate that made your damage sluggish and the healer being invincible until you took out the tank. This was done specifically to run down the loot timer in the player made dungeon you had to finish, resulting in you getting nothing. Nearly every player dungeon was like this in the beta and I stopped bothering after there were no more developer dungeons because there was no point in tackling the player dungeons when they all had the same time eating gimmicks.

It was a good idea for "infinite content" but complete garbage in practice.

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Not the worst offender as I often have a good nose for such things and stay clear away from games that tug you along with DLCs and paid content.

But yea, nothing like gated content in multiplayer games to make me lose my interest.

>>380915738
Anon, that is bullshit. OpenIV is only for single player.

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>>380914681
It was a mighty quest for epic loot. But it wasn't your quest. It was the publisher's.

>>380915530
buying money in GTA is about the most autistic thing.

that was the mistake.

>>380914681
I really liked the idea of this game, too bad the devs stopped caring about the game after release.

Are there any non-mobile games similar to this?

>>380914681
Fuck I really wanted this to not be shit.

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Never trust Hi-Rez. If your thinking about playing a game and you see their name on it. Don't touch it with a ten foot pole, they don't deserve your time.

>>380921989
Explain the vendetta?
Because a ton of Smite and Paladins players will ignroe your suggestion.

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The literal definition of greedy developers ruining their own potentially great game.

>>380922280
But was thinking from the start...
The title say Greedy Developer...
But more of the cases are Greedy Publishers...
Isnt it?

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>>380915025
All Korean games are ruined by greed. ALL.

And MMOs are inherently flawed. It's only a matter of time before anything that's constantly updating or pushing out new shit jumps the shark.

>>380922226
>ruined tribes and sullied the brand
>needing explanation as to why they're dogshit

>>380922447
how did they ruin it outside crap marketing and throwing it under the bus after smite became a hit?

>>380915390
Planetside 2 wasn't ruined by greed; it was ruined by incompetence and desperation.

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ISOLATED
not that it's a bad game but could have been 10 times better hadn't Activision forced an early release

>>380920526
How did the DLC ruin the base game?

>>380920526

Yeah game is fun but fuck locking shit in a board game into kickstarter tiers.

Battlefield Heroes

>>380922401
publishers just publish games by gunning ad campaigns and taking care of distribution

I seriously doubt they make a game have a literal fuck ton of day one DLC. thats a decision made by developers. you know, the people who actually have access to the code to make it possible.

>>380914681
>the goal is to make a dungeon to protect your resources from looters
>in order to validate your design you have to beat it
Somebody didn't really think this through.

>>380922668
Was something other than cosmetics locked behind being a kickstarter? Only thing I know of is a tiny icon you get and the alternate bandit costumes.

>>380915125
Dungeon Keeper.
There's also been at least two modern spiritual sequels, but I never tried them.

>>380922680
But publishers a ton of times ask the developers to add features into the game.
Specially because they are paying for everything in alot of cases

>>380922772
Whats wrong with that? Mario Maker and other such games have that sorta setup don't they?

I would say firefall but honestly I don't think any decision they ever made turned a profit

>>380922772
its to prevent people from making literal impossible levels. thats why the same system exists in maro maker.

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>>380914681

>>380923198
This give me eternal sad

>>380922935
The wrong part is that it was actually your shit getting stolen, not some drop spawned out of the void.

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>>380921989
Still mad

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>>380923198
FUCK

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>>380914681

>>380922669
Even with how jewey Heroes got as soon as they started adding cash-only superweapons, it didn't hold a candle to the obscene pay 2 win shit in Battlefield P4F.

You can't fucking top A limited time rifle that cost something like $99.99 and was so strong that "overpowered" didn't even begin to describe it. Its presence was so disruptive that they eventually removed the weapon and compensated those who bought it... by giving them a stat boosting attachment that effectively let them turn ANY weapon into that superweapon.

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the big daddy of human hubris

>used to patch numbers from 1.0 to 1.9
>now its x.0 to x.4
>still sold like hotcakes
>wouldn't have mattered if they actually had made a good product
>made millions off of sparkle ponies
>WOW's current engine is so advice it's practically like game maker or unity3d
>no original devs work on the game

>>380923429
Are you retarded? Thats the whole hook of the game

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I tried it a few years ago but it's horribly Pay 2 Win.
Which is a shame, because it has god tier customization.

>>380922772
can people really be THIS stupid?

The answer might surprise you.

>>380924303
Are you retarded? If the whole hook of the game is protecting your loot as best as you can, then the game shouldn't force you to create blatantly subpar defenses. If it can't be realized while simultaneously making it fun for the attacker as well, then throw your fucking hook out and start again with an actually doable concept.

>>380922935
>>380924303
The issue is that when you first start off, you have jack shit for defensive options. There's almost no chance you'd be able to design a dungeon that will actually repel anyone. And since you can't defend your loot, you can't upgrade your keep or your defenses.

Meanwhile, after you somehow get really far by grinding or paying a lot of real money, you can make a few very obvious broken defensive setups that take forever to defeat and nobody will be able to beat it because invaders are on a time limit.

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>>380924190
Holy shit I miss this game. I wish the older patches weren't completely overwritten by the newer ones.

>>380924706
sounds an awful lot like clash of clans

>>380915025

It's not really ruined, to be honest. It's just a very pretty gacha game. If you thought it was going to be a fullfledged MMO you got duped. If you like gacha games, you'll probably like BDO.

>>380914681
Yandere Simulator.

He is greedy for approval.

>>380925029
>they advertised this as food but it's actually dog shit
>well if you like poop then you'll enjoy it, if you thought it was going to be food you got duped

>>380922553
They threw it under the bus before smite became a hit. Literally killed T:A to make sure it was a hit.

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World of Warcraft is the fucking poster child of this.

And it did have the potential to be great.

>>380925273

It was pretty blatant what kind of game it was. It was out in Korea for a year after all. It was always P2W. Western version is less P2W than the Korean version but still.

Are you from the UK by any chance?

>>380924452

i want to fug the guy on the left

real lyfe

>>380925957
Jesus, /v/ even has shit taste in everything.

>>380926339

u no it

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>>380925957
>>380926339
Right? Both of those guys are fucking weird looking.

>>380915025
yenefer.jpg

>>380915125
Dungeons 2

>>380915125
Dungeon Manager is pretty good, you have to use your imagination though.

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>>380924452
Holy fuck this. Spent so much time just fucking about with my car and checking out other peoples stuff.

Nuclear Throne is awesome. Should I buy Enter The Gungeon?

>>380915025

lol, archeage 2.0

>>380914681
This game used to be pretty neat, my best strategy was to make my treasure room in a kind of hidden spot right next to the entrance and show a big open obvious hallway with all of my traps that leads to a dead end.
by the time they ran the whole way back to try to find the treasure room they don't have enough time to kill the boss and loot

>>380922553
>how did they ruin it outside of ruining it

>>380922647
>Final stretch of the game is a complete 180 where you're now Rambo
I always stop playing when I got to that part.

>>380928672
No, it's slow as fuck and every gun is a pea shooter, especially compared to NT

>>380922553
>Decided to make it so you had an uncapped speed with the flag to now being limited to something like 200ish speed if I remember right.
>Everything to do with Raiders at release and that one explosive pistol thing that broke everything for either weeks or months to the point that everyone was running it because it required no real aim and pretty much one-shot anyone.
>Threw it under the bus after this.
They're shit.

>>380924452
it started out as a project then got cancelled
then picked up by a shitty company called gamersfirst and released as it was with alot of paywalls and grind to make the game seem finished even though it was still far from it

>>380924452
To be fair the best gun in the game is the Ntec which you can buy for barely any ingame currency and most of the cash shop weapons are just reskins

>>380925769
its not P2W at all
you can buy everything with in game currency
and i assure you as someone who spends about 20 minutes playing it each day in-game currency is extremely easy to get, i can get a few million by AFK fishing

>>380924706
this
it was a fun idea for a game but it was so much bullshit
people would use niggardly designs like
one massive hallway filled with nothing but tarpits and mimic chests that shot out stunning punching gloves that also knocked you back just to waste away the time limit

>>380923198
what game

>>380914681
I got real into this game and then realized it was a pretty shallow diablo clone

>>380929731
the problem with this sort of strategy is that players would then immediately retry your castle until they got it right and walk away with all your loot, which was my biggest issue with the game, i would make a very (in my opinion) well thought out castle log off, and log back in only to find some guy had attacked me 20 times until he succeeded, they should have put a limit on retrys

>>380914681
I never really enjoyed this game. The dungeon building was cool and all, but I hated not being able to choose my own skills and stats for my character. Also, making it so that it revolves around stealing resources from other players was bullshit.

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Surprised this hasn't been posted yet

I had fun oneshotting people with remote control rockets