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PROOF: MHW is exactly what PS2 / PSP Hunters have wanted for years

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Reminder that in a 2008 video, Japanese PS2 players were complaining about flexing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flSUgxDxoNg&t=473
THE 3DS GAMES SUCK:
>broken styles
>broken arts
>broken weapons (switchaxe is 100% sword)
>deviantart monsters that are literally called Deviant monsters
>240p screen, 30fps
>bizarre map layouts and clipping issues

Did you expect Capcom to keep using PS2 assets for the next 10 years? MHW is exactly what we have been asking for (an engine update and a balance reset so you can fix the fucked up weapons).
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>>380888326
>rathalos world tour
kek feels good i wasnt the only one triggered by this
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>>380888326
>MH wanted to be Dark Souls all along
Looks like us soulsfags win again
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>>380888662
https://www.google.com/search?q=rathalos+wont+land

lmao
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>>380888742
its a very minor change and i probably prefer the new system

>slow healing
>very minor movement possible

vs.

>instant huge heal
>have to dance once youre done
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Reminder that the Monster Hunter team wanted ecology, sneaking, and open-worlds with monster chase scenes since the beginning but couldn't because of PS2/Handheld limitations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAbijWwGbfw
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>>380888992
>very minor movement possible

He's nearly at full speed though
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Reminder

(Fujioka)"Everytime you come up with a new concept you need to think again about all already existing gameplay features. You cant introduce any change like it exists in a vacuum. You need to ask yourself: "Do I still need this gameplay feature? Do I need to improve it or even remove it?". We didnt start to work with the mindset that we need to make it easier so that more people are able to play this game. We had a concept for the game in mind and as a natural consequence of that some Gameplay elements became more accesible/comprehendible.

(Author of the article) Fujioka listed the seamless map as an example. The player will be much closer to the monster since there are no loading screens between different areas but seamless transitions. Because of this some gameplay elements got changed. Fot example you dont need to stop anymore to drink a potion. You can now drink a potion on the run

(Fujioka)"This gameplay mechanic (the flexing after drinking a potion) existed because of the slower battlespeed in previous installments. We needed to change the mechanic in order for it to become more in tune with the gameplay since the game is much more interactive now. We didnt cut out the flexing animation because it might be annoying for western players but on the contrary. We did it because it fits the gameplay more
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>>380888326
>broken weapons (switchaxe is 100% sword)
in base gen yes but in XX Axe mode was given alot of love with Brave Style. One of your best combos now is morphing into the axe infinite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhAGDpoCCO4
I hope MHW works Brave SA's moveset into the default
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>>380888326
Based Japan giving us the true Monster Hunter after 13 years of absence on home consoles.
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>the damage control going on over casualizing the healing
Just accept they did something bad and move on, why can't you admit that? I accepted it even though I realize it's a bad change made to cater to western audiences, and even though it makes healing during fights way easier, I'm way happier that the core gameplay is intact.
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>>380888326
Nobody fucking like flexing.

People complaining about it's removal are 100% shitposting faggots.
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>>380891738
But now you don't heal instantly after drinking potions. Also you can't just run to a different zone to heal. Its actually less casual then it was before.
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>>380888992

>very minor movement
thats 80-90% runspeed

>slow healing
its really fucking fast, the old "instant healing" takes the same amount of time due to the delay from animation of standstill-chugging and actually getting the "instant heal"
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>>380888742
New potion system is some real fucking garbage m8. Lets hope they at least get the believable ecology feeling right. Still really wanna try this out. Totally rustled me when they didn't shitbomb the monsters and that nigger whiffed every second hit on that 20min chink leak.
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>>380891712
It was on the wii and wii u though along with ps3.
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>>380891894
It's not that slow at all, and I consider going to a different zone an exploit rather than an intended mechanic. It's only natural they would change that over time.

Also how the hell is it less casual?
>giving yourself one giant, long opening during which the monster can easily hit you once and deal back all the damage you healed
vs
>hindering your movement slightly for less time to get back your health which now takes longer, but with all the freedom of movement you have you shouldn't be getting hit as easily anyway

Get Capcom's cock out of your mouth and accept that they made it more casual. Sure, it could be a lot worse, but it's just clearly a decision made to cater to western audiences that whine about this stuff.
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>>380888326
Monster Hunter games have so much content exactly because of the simple and reused graphics.
I fear World will be lacking because of that
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>>380892568
>and I consider going to a different zone an exploit rather than an intended mechanic

Doesn't change the fact that it is possible to do in all of the games.

>hindering your movement slightly for less time to get back your health which now takes longer, but with all the freedom of movement you have you shouldn't be getting hit as easily anyway

We still don't know how they're changing the game. They said that they want to make the monster AI better. Maybe monsters will finally not be retarded. Also maybe the health recovery rate was increased for the e3 presentation. We don't know.

>Get Capcom's cock out of your mouth and accept that they made it more casual

My point is that we still don't truly have enough information to find out if the game is truly more "casual" then it was before. Stop being so reactionary and realize that we'll find out how much easier/harder the game is when/if we get to play the demo.
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>>380888326

It's definately what I've been wanting for years. I started with the original game. Didn't get 2, bought a PS3 for 3 and then they switched it to Wii.

The terrain destruction was something I was hoping for on the PS3 title before it was cancelled.

I hate how Capcom has tried their hardest to make sure Monster Hunter gets released on the weakest hardware that can run a barebones game per generation.

The series has never progressed. It's the same fucking game with patches, all the titles are standalone expansion packs that force you to start over. I'm not paying $40-60 a year to start fresh.

I went from 1 to Freedom Unite to 4 to Generations. The game I actually still play the most is Freedom Unite. 4 and Generations are pretty cool but I just couldn't stay into them, it's too much of a been there done that sort of feel.

I am so glad to see a Monster Hunter that isn't simply standalone expansion tier. We're finally getting one on a new engine, modern graphics, quality of life changes, and new mechanics.
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>>380893232
Yeah, up until now we've seen 2 big monsters and 1 area. I doubt they have all that much more up their sleeve, G rank is out of the question anyways. I hope we get some gen 3 monsters and a dedicated sand/snow area.

With ps2 graphics up until now they could easily create new content in a jiffy - see frontier with its 7 gazillion seasons and expansions, they still churn out new shit. Fearing the same thing that they just can't deliver that much content.

Is it a "buy once - receive updates" deal?
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>>380893232
Smal amount of completely new content >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> large amount of recycled content
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>>380895364
>tfw autistic
>I will still like MH even if they keep relesing the same game with two-three new monsters

Look like I win
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>>380888742
I really don't have a problem with this healing system.
The same thing happened with bloodborne healing system, where people were scared that is was going to be too fast .
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>>380896014
I'm glad you enjoy the series. Like I said I also enjoyed 4 and Generations to an extent. There's really nothing to win. We will both enjoy the franchise. I'm just personally glad they're finally doing a lot more with the series. It's been something I've personally disliked about how they release their titles.

The level of changes MHW has made was the kind of stuff I expected to see with MH3 on PS3.
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>>380896896
Well, I was kind of furious of the change at first but I realize that even if I end up disliking MHW, the serie would still had an excellent run.

It would also finally give me an excuse to check out Frontier.
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>>380897072
Understandable. If you like something. You should still like the same thing with more content. I wish I could enjoy it over and over in the same way but I've been wanting more change than just new content. Stuff gets stale to me quickly.
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>>380897379
I can understand. I've tried the other hunting games on vita and none of them gripped me as much as MH. I generally liked them but they weren't as fun. And then I see people with 200+ hours in them.
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Why do none of you faggots realize that Monster Hunter has always been casual as fuck, that's why it's always been portable and marketed heavily towards the japanese market, these are casual games for them
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>>380892568
>and I consider going to a different zone an exploit rather than an intended mechanic
Nobody gives a fuck what you consider it. The devs considered it intentional and changed healing in response to the new soft zone transitions. It's literally 9 posts above you. Stop passing judgements on a slight change when everything else changed with it. Think of how it'll all work as a whole.
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>>380898138
>hurr I'll believe any excuse they throw at me
It doesn't matter their reasons for doing it, they casualized the healing and that's that.
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>>380891483
I hope they at least let us flex as a gesture
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Dont care, so long as they give me badass hammers.
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>>380888326
>the I am retarded song
I wasn't expecting this nostalgia
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Guys I've never played but interested. Do l get 4 ultimate or generations? Which are more populated?
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>>380888326
>sonyshills get BTFO in one thread
>come into another to damage control
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>>380897949
Because now it is even more casual
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>>380899109
Oh no a casual game is more casual what a travesty
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>>380899213
>he defends casualization
How's that Candy Crush account going?
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>>380898926
4U's got much more enjoyable locations, but Gen has more monsters.

Depends, really.
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>>380899109
>even more casual
How so?
Now the monsters are literally chasing you entire maps.
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>>380899350
You're defending casualization by playing an already casual game.
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>>380899416
Good thing you can walk while healing now
*grapples a million miles away*
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>>380898926
4U is main series, way better for getting into it. Generations has a ton of mechanics that aren't present in other games, and it's arguably worse, but that's more subjective. Definitely go with 4U.
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>>380899505
And?
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>>380899505
Is this really it? This is what twists your panties in a hunch? MOVING while healing?

Your Palicos and Chacha/Kayamba were doing this for you for a while now, but it takes until YOU can heal yourself while walking to make you so assmad?
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>>380899589
>>380899742
>defending healing being casualized
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>>380899810
You've had arts for a while now that do this.
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>>380899505
You can't just run to a different zone to heal now. You also don't recover health instantly when you heal now. We've been over this.

>>380899810
Nice buzzword. Kill yourself.
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Buttflustered niglets aside, I'm hype for sneaking.
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WHY ISN'T IT ON THE SWITCH I CAN'T AFFORD A PS4 I JUST GOT A SWITCH BECAUSE I WANTED TO PLAY MONSTER HUNTER THIS JUST ISN'T FAIR
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>>380899505
the only thing we have footage of is the quick heal, an herb. And the speed that you move will be exactly 0 help getting away from a charging tigrex
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>>380899891
>still recover it in like 2 seconds
>aren't punished for healing in bad spots anymore
>STOP CALLING IT CASUALIZED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>380899941
because capcom literally stated they want the western audience and the switch isn't where that audience is
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>>380899941
Nigga, just get it on your PC. No excuse.
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>>380898926
4U is literally the best in the series.
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>>380888326
>Did you expect Capcom to keep using PS2 assets for the next 10 years?
Well, based on how shitty they usually are, yes.
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>>380888326
Consoles is still 30 FPS
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>mfw tri babbies complain about casualization
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>>380900167
who gives a fuck about this generation's consoles they're all shit
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>>380888326
>broken styles
They're just a straight buff, you pick the best one for your weapon.
>broken arts
The same two arts are pretty much the only good ones for all characters, not a big deal.
>broken weapons
Yes, but that's true for all MH games.
>deviantart monsters
Oh you're just baiting.
>Did you expect Capcom to keep using PS2 assets for the next 10 years?
Yes, honestly. Probably longer than that knowing Capcom.
>MHW is exactly what we have been asking for
Remains to be seen. I'm hopeful though.
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>>380898981
WHY CANT SONYGERS FUCK FROM OUR SAFESPACE............

ITS NOT FAIR BROS......
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>>380900167
theres a PC version which will be 2k 60fps

weve been asking for a PC release (that isnt MMO garbage) for years.

and the consoles wont be 240p garbage
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>>380899970
>ree meme
Who let you out of /b/
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>>380900015
>Still thinking this when everything else that was in the leak was true
Sony paid for it to not be on the Switch, because they're trying to get the Japs. Capcom getting the west with this is just an added bonus, if it actually sells.
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This whole situation genuinely makes me believe that there are shills on this board for the purpose of damage controlling shit companies do.

The game looks great from the leaked E3 demo, it's just this one thing they fucked up.
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Name a series where /v/ is more autistic than Monster Hunter.

Not even in the Souls series you hear so many pointless try hard elitist arguments.
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>>380900245
>he said after running away to create a safespace sonyfag thread
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>>380900104
>>380899575
>>380899354
Gonna go with 4u then. Thanks guys.
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>>380900402
people were complaining about flexing as far back as the PS2 games, OP vid proves it, cry more Mary-Oh
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>>380900285
2k? Try 4k@60fps m8
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I would be mad if they didn't announce a MH title for a switch after buying one.

But at least I'm not stupid enough to purchase one when there are no games on it.
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All these threads on /v/ bashing new MH and I'm just sitting here still enjoying MH4U and MHG.
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>>380900512

I KNOW BRO...

SONYGERS SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CREATE THREADS......

BAN THEM ALL......

ITS NOT FAIR....
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>>380900553
I have no idea what your bait image is even trying to say
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I never thought that many people gave a damn about MH on /v/.
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>>380900649
this except unironically.
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>>380888326
>STYLES AND ARTS WERE BROKEN AND SUCK, THATS WHY WORLD IS GOING TO BE GOOD
>they literally added arts into the weapon's normal moveset
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Nobody actually played moho on PS2. I can tell someone is underage if they say they did
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>>380900628
Yeah, I'm there with you.
I just wish they'd sneak a peak of Gkaives, Horns, and Hammers.
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>>380900716
I didn't expect you to.
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>>380900716
They don't.
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>MH """vets""" have no complaints about 3rd and 4th gen casualizing the game but MHW's potion change is over the line
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>>380900765
Yeah, I didn't really like it on the PS2 myself.
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>>380899941
Just get the PC version. The fact that Sonyfags are shilling this MULTIPLATFORM game so much just shows how terrible their 0/10 E3 conference was.
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>>380900224
>continuing to act like anyone gives a shit about PCbros in this day and age

Consoles outnumber gaming PCs at least 100:1
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>>380900649
>MY SAFE SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>380900649
This, people who only subscribe to one company/system shouldn't be allowed to post. They ruined this board
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>>380900826
this
We went from a Rathalos charge pretty much murdering you guaranteed to doing a 10th of your hp and everyone's cool with it. But healing(implying you got hit too much) while moving? WAAAAAAAY out of line brehs.
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>>380900890
I mean almost all of E3 wasa bit of a letdown.
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>>380900891
Kek, retard alert. No surprise that you don't cite an actual statistic
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>>380900384
>muh leak
Already been debunked, but keep trying Nintendofriend.
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>>380888326
What? Monster Hunter is not literally the same rehashed games with all the autistic gimmicks I have come to love after grinding for thousands of hours? You mean to say I won't yet again pay full price for a Monster Hunter and get literally the exact same game so I can do the exact same shit over and over again that I already did for thousands of hours?

Why does the west ruin everything?
Why does Sony ruin everything?
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>>380900765
MH got good on the PSP because that's where I played it first.
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>>380900384
>source: some random shitpost
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>>380901016
This. Even the Metroid announcements were disappointing.

>Everyone loses their shit over the MP4 logo and a new 2D metroid game
>its been confirmed that Retro isn't making MP4 and fucking MercurySteam is making the 2D game

Literally nothing to get excited about.
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Reminder that the console market in Japan is literally stone cold DEAD and Monster Hunter is only popular with a tiny number of weebs in the west.

This game is going to be very lucky to crack 2 million global sales. Capcom are going to end up grovelling in Nintendo HQ personally kissing Kimishima's boot as they promise to make MH5 Switch exclusive.
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>>380901190
kek it's the truth though
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>>380901489
I was hoping for a solid release date on KH3, but noooooooooo
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>>380901381
>Just take Frontier's upgraded Jho moveset
>Make the attacks have worse effects

Also dude in the webm needs to eat a damn steak.
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>>380901381
>hit arms
>get ko buildup
what did they mean by this?
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Looks fun, will play.
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>>380901542
If this game fails they will never try anything new again in MH and the series will be dead for good anyway.
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>>380901542

MH has no future staying japan centered. Japan is running out of teenagers and children, the economic viability of all big videogame publishers is jeopardized there.
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>>380895691
Spoken like a true pony. You're one of those faggots that bought Battlefront and encouraged EA to make a "Battlefront 2". Kill yourself.
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>>380901902
Monster Hunter 5 will sell millions in Japan alone when it comes out exclusively for the Switch in 2019, the future of the franchise is safe friend!
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>>380902096
Yeah but it will be just the same game we played a million times already.
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>>380901704
The effects and animations are better in MHO.
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>>380902001
What?
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I'm genuinely excited for MH World.
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>>380902667
Considering it's the exact same animation, not really.

Plus it goes from a set attack with set ranges to some sort of weird random rocks falling from the sky is what I'm really getting at.
Bet it doesn't even double hit if you get flipped into the air by the first part.
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>>380888742
>People are defending this

Everytime.
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>>380902940
Again, the hardcore ship has sailed long long ago. You are playing post Tri MH games for god's sake.
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>>380902886
The falling rocks are rotating in MHO
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>>380902001
>Nintendies criticizing MHW for being low on content when Tri was the first Nintendo MH released worldwide
Tri was a good thing too, despite the low content it brought back online play and refined the shit out of everything which is what the series truly needed instead of rehashing 2nd gen hitboxes and mechanics again. MHW looks to be similar and I'm eagerly awaiting it.
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>>380903132
>m-muh Tri

Every single time. Every single thread.
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>>380903143
What do you mean by rotating?
Like each time he does the attack they change angle, but have a set pattern?
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>>380903132
>NO TRUE SCOTSMAN REEEEEEEEEE
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>>380903268
>>380903346
So then if you endured that level of casualization back then you'll stick around for this no doubt?
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>>380902803
Most people are.
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>>380903336
Probably spinning would be a better word. The rocks are spinning like a football in midair
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>>380903404
Its different this time because its TOO casual. Its literally going to play like a different game. You wouldn't understand because you probably aren't even a real MH fan.
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>>380888326
Come on dude, I own all Nintendo/Sony consoles to this date and the only thing the Monster Hunter games on 3DS lack is good graphics, they are fun neverless, but the 240p/30FPS are really shitty, Monster Hunter can look amazing, I mean who doesn't like his Character looking slick with a freshly crafted armor or kill amazing creatures.

The cons (IMO) the MH games on 3DS have:

>Shitty resolution
>Shitty FPS
>Shitty controls (I have too big hands)
>Bad Online features

The rest doesn't differ at all, and I think DoubleX is amazing.
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>those bugs that show you where everything is

Nice hand holding gimmick lol
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>>380903404
>Lets make a game where the game literally does everything for you and gives you instant rewards!

>b-b-but if you stayed around Tri y-you can d-do this.

Fucking kill yourself defending this piece of shit that calls itself "Monster Hunter"
It's fucking Skyrim with Rathian.
You may aswell play Witcher 3 as it's most likely the exact fucking same thing.
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>>380896153
>The same thing happened with bloodborne healing system, where people were scared that is was going to be too fast .

and it was
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Did they just removed the blood splatter when you hit the monster? for what purpose?
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>>380888326
>Hunters
Shill detected
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>>380904015
Because 12 year olds will be offended.
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>>380890318
I don't care about what they WANTED, I care about what the MADE
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>>380896153
They were way too fast, and rally was incredibly broken with a fast enough weapon on top of that.
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>>380903961
It didn't matter because the game still ended up being harder than any other Souls game.
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>>380888326
>"THE 3DS GAMES SUCK:"
>4 issues out of 6 are only from one game and its direct sequel
>6th issue isn't inherent of the 3DS games

Also
>if the 3DS games did something to facilitate the player it's "broken"
>anything World does to facilitate the player is a-ok
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>>380890318
damn, they wanted to appeal to westerners from the start
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>>380903961
There were a few factors that made BB easier than the other games, but the speed at which you heal is not one of them. It was the amount of vials that you got and the changes to how parrying worked that made it easier. Try again.
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>>380901489
>it's just a logo how can you be excited about it!
>Metroid is disappointing based on just a logo
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>>380888742
>MH wanted to be a MH copy

that ain't too bad so long as we don't have it trying to be DaS 2, 3 or god forbid, BB.
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>>380904270
Can you read? I'm disappointed that Retro isn't making it. The last time a major Metroid game that wasn't made by Retro was made we got Other M.
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>>380903961
>he thinks that estus are better than blood vials.
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>>380891894
>that leaving a zone to heal meme
Again?
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>>380904536

>mfw it's team ninja again
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>>380888326
Faggots who don't MonHun and just shitpost because consolewars:
>NINTODDLERS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT, 3DS GAMES WERE SHIT ANYWAY

Actual MonHun fans:
>I am cautiously optimistic/pessimistic because of X, X and X

There was nothing wrong with styles or arts. Variety is the spice of life and all. I understand that adjusting to something new is difficult and you only want to play with your traditional greatsword or whatever, but the variety of different playstyles for the same weapons was great. Even if some were broken. And yeah, hope SWAX is basically brave style from XX as default now - as fun as striker was with a permanently buffed, rechargeable sword. Hopefully it will be the case that they integrated certain arts or style elements into the base weapon movesets and that'll be it.

As for the game itself - looking forward to it. Could go either way, but the more minor details I hear about the game, the more Capcom seem like absolute madmen for trying to pitch what seems to just be regular Monster Hunter with a new coat of shiny paint, plus some casual friendly shit thrown in for mass appeal. But yeah, thank fuck the flex is gone.
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>>380904805
Just because you can't come up with any argument as to how its not a valid point doesn't mean its a meme. Literally even the fucking director of the game stated that as one of the reasons why they made the change to healing.
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>>380895364
>never played 3U, the best game
I can just sense how much you fucking hate nintendo. Whew.
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>>380900484
>Not even in the Souls series you hear so many pointless try hard elitist arguments.
you mean the series where whatever you ask the answer is always "git gud", coming from faggots who never even farmed perfect bladestone?
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>>380898981
>>380900245
>>380900512
>>380900649
i know it's all shitposting but can't you fuckers go console war somewhere else? all communities are trash with PC as the single worse for having the cancer of all of them combined.
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>not on the switch
It's garbage, DoA
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>>380903685
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Literallty every thread, every time.
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>>380905325
In Monster Hunter it's literally the same though. Complain about anything and all you will hear is "git gud".
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>>380888326
one of the few times i agreed with an OP on /v/. I had a better experience playing monhun on my PSP than on the 3ds, The 3ds kept the game from growing.
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>>380905686
Pointing out logical fallacies isn't an argument, redditor.
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>>380888326
>the 3ds Games suck!
Anon, I believe they are good games, but if it is your opinion, I do not have a problem with it. I do believe you are trying to incite a fire without fuel however, as everyone already has what they want. What is the point of this post?
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I hope is at least takes a few notes out of dragons dogmas book. As far as combat and being able to climb on monsters.
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>buying consoles before games are even announced

switchbros did this to themselves
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>>380906408
Sonybros are still buying the PS4 even now.
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>>380888326
This will be my first MH, what am I in for?
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Shit the leaked demo was taken off of youtube

Is there a reupload anywhere?
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>>380906747
a h*cking good time
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>>380907190
Does the game have a story? Shall I play the first ones before MHW?
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>>380906678
Nice damage control, Nintendie.
Enjoying that Pii U 2.0 with no third party support? Or are you still seething over losing Monster Hunter?
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>>380907338
>Someone bashes sony
>F-F-FUCKING NINTENDO

Man look how much of an insecure faggot you look
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>>380907329
Each MH game has a "story" but it's mostly "This monster is destroying things, go kill it."

It's nothing too fancy.
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it's really great how Capcom upgraded from assets that look like they come from a PS2 game to assets that look like they come from a PS3 game

why can't the Switch supposedly run this again?
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>>380905261
I don't hate Nintendo. I've always been a fan on their handhelds. I just never typically get their consoles. I've had all their handheld systems but the only consoles I've owned was SNES amd Wii U.
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>>380907329
The only connections between the games is mainly callback characters like the guild receptionists and such.

And considering World being what it is, I doubt they'll have too many of those this time around.
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>>380904087
And the devs dont care what you want now and will make what they always wanted. If you dont like it you can fuck off with your garbage handheld game faggot.
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>>380908332
Because the PS3 is literally more powerful than the Switch.

Even though the PS3 is 10 years older.
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>>380908332
Have you seen the environemnts? No way that shit would run on a tablet. Get real
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>>380909586
>a console is more powerful than a handheld

wow
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I PUSH MY FINGERS INTO MY EYESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>380901489
The hands on with the 2D one, people were saying it felt great.

Remember the main things wrong with that shitty castlevania was that it was trying to map the gameplay of the 3d one into 2d and just played like shit.
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>>380904015
That's what they're replacing damage numbers with, anon
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>>380909594
>Foliage with 3 polygons total
>Hunter with barely any extra polygons compared to the 3DS models
I bet it runs on my phone.
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>>380908664
>will make what they always wanted
Hmm, where have I heard that before?

>Yukka Laylee

Ah, right. This is actually a horrible mindset to have. Often the reason for content or idea getting cut is simply because the idea is shit. MH team has had unmitigated 'ideas' for a while and people have called them out in the past, but suddenly they can do no wrong?

Give me a break. If they don't reign it in and temper it, it's going to become a hodge podge of nothing.
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>>380910134
Maybe, but it wouldn't run on the switch.
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>>380904015
How else will your twitch audience know that your fully charged GS slash was EPIC?
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>>380910134
still not gonna be able to run on the Shitch.
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>>380910309
I'm sure it would at 720p and maybe a texture downgrade so streaming between areas doesn't kill it.
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>>380910068
You can turn those off though
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>>380910546
Read what you typed, anon.
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>>380910546
Nah
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>>380910709
Won't bring the blood splatters back, though ;_;
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>PS2 Hunters
>They are people that legitimately believe that going back to OG and Dos is a good idea
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>>380910731
Just did, what about it? Not the original anon you were replying to, just saying that if they wanted to, they could. Especially because it's running on the MT Framework engine and that shit was fucking magic. Though honestly, the code is probably terribly optimized if it's aiming for 30 fps with those graphics.
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>>380910945
I'm playing Dos right now and it's grindy.
15 hours in and I've barely upgraded the village because I keep wanting to try out other weapon classes.
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>>380911146
Yeah. See, this is why I don't understand when people complain about MH3U and up being "too grindy". It's at a perfect balance, if it's any easier it'll just be too simple to get materials.
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>>380908347
That's okay, Nintendo stopped being a big contender in the console race when the Gamecube was introduced.

I personally classify Nintendo as a compliment company because although it doesn't get as much 3rd party support as the other companies do, the amount of exclusives they get still makes it worthwhile to own their platforms. In which case, if you're not an idort, it's recommended you only have a Nintendo system as a secondary gaming platform while your primary being either a PC or the other consoles (preferably Playstation because the Xbox systems doesn't get as many games made by overseas developers), that way you won't feel so shafted.
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>>380911016
It's not that.

The switch simply came out too late and everyone was unclear on the capabilities, because it's clearly not as good as Nintendo wants you to believe.

Optimizing MH just to appease a small amount of Switch owners compared to say....the half a billion that own PS4's, Xbox's and PC's simply isn't worth the money.
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>>380909682
so nintendo isnt making consoles anymore? Thats sad, but I guess their lack of success forced them out of the console market.
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>>380911291
I'd enjoy some way to obtain specific parts by cashing in guild points or some such, basically giving players a way to change playtime into parts of your choice.
Just to give an out for some unlucky sod like that Quro Flintstone guy.
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>>380911405
I know you're adding all the users together but you seriously can't believe that MHW is currently appealing to a ton of PC users that make up for that 430 million.
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>The Switch can't run Monster Hunter Wor-
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>>380911405
I didn't say it was profitable, nigger (though with the MTF's scaling capabilities I'm sure it is), I'm simply saying it was likely possible.
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MH World will bomb because ps4yearolds don't buy anything other than fifa and cod/gta
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>>380911685
PC and XBOX are just a side thing for devs in terms of sales
Everything has most of its sales made on the PS4

And also, Japan is that kind of place where one game will sell a console
Monster hunter, a series with a cult following has fans that will go out and buy a PS4 just to play it

Also consider that world looks amazing
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>>380911765
What PS2 game is that? It looks nice.
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#4THEPLAYERS
#ONLYONPS4
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>>380911958
It's the upcoming God of War movie anon
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christ what a shitshow
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>>380912080
I really hope that the actual game won't have monsters completely ignore the hunters the moment another one shows up.

Like it's neat to watch, but not exactly the most riveting gameplay.
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>>380912080
>>380912305

>Anjanath gets stuck on the vespoid

JUST

Amazing dynamic hunts, psbros
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>>380910546
>>380911016
I'm sure the game will be able to run on the Switch, anon sure it will... just like Batman: Arkham Knight on the Wii U.
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>>380899941
you do know that MHW is also on xbox right? oh wait /v/ only shills for sony and nintendo.
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>>380912440
Oh that's why he hovered there for a moment.
Didn't see the vespoid at first.

Admittedly I've seen monsters get into so many odd positions I don't really fault this one too much.
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>>380888742
Is this really what all the autists are complaining about? Fucking hell, it's literally negligible. GAME RUINED HOLY SHIT CALL THE POLICE MONSTER HUNTER IS DEAD.

Absolute autismos.
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>>380901381
>tfw MHW has just made me want to play MHO even more
All this talk about muh healing and nobody is talking about how they totally fucked up the art style in MHW. It's a westernized desaturated brown mess that isnt even that graphically impressive.
MHO still looks better and doesn't shit up the colors.
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>>380891483
>We didnt cut out the flexing animation because it might be annoying for western players but on the contrary. We did it because it fits the gameplay more

How about... moving and flexing AT THE SAME TIME?
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>>380914191
>Frontier monsters are faster any anything else in the series
>More relentless and do more damage
>Moving while using healing items? Fuck no, get better nerd.
There are special items that have auto-speed eating or don't need the flex afterwards though.
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>>380913683
deal with it
its realism hunter now
its going to be full ragdoll and decapitations and gore
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>>380892362
Tri was kinda barebones
3U was an upscaled 3DS port
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>>380915813
Even with Tri being barebones I got way more hours out of it than I did with P3rd,4U and Gen. The online community was great to be around with because of the banter and collecting every weapon and armor wasn't as much of a chore because of the less monster count it's hard to put it into words
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>>380891752
>People complaining about it's removal are 100% shitposting faggots.
More like complete fucking retards trying way too hard to fit in or show how hardcore they are for embracing memes and garbage mechanics.
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>>380899891
>You can't just run to a different zone to heal now

You couldn't do this with certain quests before tho, this is literally nothing new to the series.
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>>380901381
How hard is it to get MHO setup?
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>game gets released on PC
>consolestards pretend to be of any relevancy
???
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>>380904087
And they're thankful for your support of the rough draft and making their vision possible. Now they're making the actual Monster Hunter game, the one without compromises to run on microwave hardware which will render the others obsolete.
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>>380890318
I remember seeing this on cinematech way back.
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Wait, this game is coming for PC? Is there multiplayer?
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>>380912080
epic, truly epic, i always wanted monsters to completely ignore me for minutes at a time for scripted attacks against each other and now my wish is granted
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>>380919938
Nope, PS4 exclusive
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>>380920423
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>>380919938
Yes and yes.
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>>380900765
I haven't read the whole thread yet but I just wanted to say analog to attack controls are the one true way. And MHW is something I dreamed about since the first game, it should be painfully obvious from the original base mechanics, the token half assed ones added later and even the trailers/intros that this is what MH is really about, and the movement while healing is a wait and see affair but it might be fine. People pretending zoning out (on purpose or accidentally) to heal or sharpen wasn't a thing are straight up wrong, and no sprinting will make it less effective anyway.
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>>380920423
>lying this hard
So does anybody else remember sonybros using NIER as shitposting material at the beginning of the year before it was ported to PC?
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>>380920706
Nier is still only on consoles, and the best (canon) version is still a PS3 exclusive.
Automata is an abomination for poser weebs with no standards.
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LITERALLY S E E T H I N G
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The original vision of the devs is shit.

Proper design is about reduction, not about addition. It is about paring your game down to its most essential, highest-quality elements. When you leave non-essential, lower-quality elements in, you get a bloated game, a non-cohesive game, a bad game.

All this entire incident tells me is what I already knew - more powerful computers are killing the game industry. Freedom is the worst thing to ever happen to game development. Limitations FORCE you to make a quality game, because if you don't make a quality game, it's incredibly easy to tell - there's just not much there, so the bad elements stick out. But freedom means you can throw in every shitty idea you've ever had, and come out with a "MASSIVE AMAZING WONDERFUL GAME" praised by millions, like AC or Skyrim or, hell, even BotW in a lot of ways. Games which aren't really games, just giant, empty spaces full of fluff.

I hope to god that I'm wrong about this. I hope that MHW is a great game. I'd love to play sexy HD Monhun on my beast computer instead of on a tiny 3DS screen.

But come on. In the last decade, how often have the pessimists, the naysayers, really been "wrong" when a game series started going down the path of freedom?
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>>380921769
You're taking a very specific philosophy that granted results for other specific games and forcing it into a situation where it doesn't actually apply. If you look at the entire series so far, this IS the game that focuses entirely on the core concept, the hunting, and how they can fully portray and enable that.
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Toukiden 2 is better than Monster Hunter 3U, Monster Hunter 4 and Monster Hunter Generations

Capcom didn't even port Monster Hunter 4 to Wii U because the extreme low quality of assets
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>>380900704
It's trying to make an implication that ANYONE actually tolerated valfalk's design despite the fact that it was nearly unanimously ridiculed.
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>>380919318
>When you sat at the menu and saw that hype ass trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_YLkTOUm4g
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how to fix walking while healing casual issue

if you get hit while using a pot or item, it gets knocked out of your hand and you have to go pick it up again to use it
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>>380906172
>It's okay in "MY GAME"
>It's not okay in "YOUR GAME"
But neither is using logical fallacies, retard.
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MH games have always given you plenty time to heal. This just streamlines the combat meaning monsters can be more agressive, there's more time actually spent hunting instead of running around waiting to heal. It's a good thing.
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>>380922469
The Wii U was a failure, why would any 3rd party bother porting anything to it
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>>380923464
Been so long since I saw this. Now this is fucking Monster Hunter.
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I don't get the whole "fast healing" complaint. You could just run into another area if you wanted to heal
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>>380891636
>After being in 7 games, only the last one (a jap-only release) fixes the weapon IF you pick 1 of 6 styles and ONLY that one.

Yeah fuck off m8. Horrible weapon.
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>>380922381
The core concept of MH isn't "the hunt". That's their original idea.

The core concept of MH is highly-tuned combat against massive monsters. For over a decade, "the hunt" has been the last thing on the mind of the games.
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>>380925307
but you still had to flex, you couldn't just dance around the monster and heal, you had to actually run to another area if you wanted to retreat to heal/sharpen/craft ammo
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>>380888742
I'm completely cool with this. Definitely glad they got rid of that shitty flex animation.
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>>380926187
>highly-tuned combat
>predictable attacks
>predictable behavior
>clip to win
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>>380923761
I prefer where you get easy access to normal potions with the old chug and flex, or "mobile" potions that allow for moving while healing.

Chug and flex potions is instant healing, but requires you to stop and be a target possibly negating the entire heal.
Moving while healing potions heals slower overall, but doesn't require you to stop at the cost of possibly being interrupted.

Now instead of being one or the other, it's a tactical choice where the player gets to decide what they favor as well as what is best for the specific situation.
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>>380927348
that would be great, but knowing Capcom, new mobile chugging is what we're getting whether we like it or not
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>>380926187
The base combat has never been the sole focus of the game though. It was a critical third, but it was always featured alongside the wealth of items and traps you used in conjunction with your three allies to find, corner and either kill or capture the monster, so that you could then craft new equipment and items with it's materials as well as those you found and harvested through exploration and gathering. The combat was razor sharp, but it was always there to serve the hunting aspect, not the other way around, and I don't know anyone can really claim otherwise when looking at not just the first game, but the series as a whole.
MH2's grand innovation for example was a day/night cycle that affected the hunt rather than core combat. They added new weapons, but didn't work on making each one greatly complex, like their other combat focused series. Like Onimusha rather than Devil May Cry. MH3, despite being on Wii, added an underwater angle which greatly expanded exploration and hunting, but only tangentially affected combat with it's vague extra axis.
Even with them being restrained by platform they've made slight attempts here and there. In fact, the one game that made a clear addition aimed towards the combat pillar of the game was MHX's styles and super attacks. And boy does it show.
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