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Was she telling the truth?

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Was she telling the truth?
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>>380881914

No. She implied the redguards were chasing her for speaking out against the thalmor in a city publically, even though Hammerfell won the war against the thalmor and held onto all their territory. Her story was bullshit, she was clearly a traitor.
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>>380882248
Beat me to it.
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>>380882248
But why are Kematu's boys all hanging out in a cave with bandits?
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>>380881914
Probably not but I enjoyed using my sex mod on her
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No idea who that is. Probably wouldn't recognize any NPC from that game.

None of the characters have individual agency and at most have 2 layers of depth.
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>>380882538
This
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>>380882396
Bad game design.
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>>380882396
The guards didn't let them in the cities
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>>380882396
They weren't allowed in the city and needed to find lodging, the bandits let them in and they all had hot steamy sex
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Why do all the quests in Riverwood and Whiterun have so much more thought and effort put into them than the quests in the other areas?
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>>380882538
A fellow of taste. I loaded her from head to toe with BDSM gear and a leash then prostituted her out for easy cash.
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No, but i still sided with her, so i could rp her into returning the favor whenever i wanted.
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Who cares, im sick of these fucking redguards in Sweden.
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>>380882396

The guards wouldn't let a dozen hammerfell soldiers camp in a city, so they payed the bandits to house them.
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>>380882772
Those are the first two areas you go to so they make them the most story filled because they know most people barely bother with the main story
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>>380882772
First impressions matter, and those are the early cities.
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CURVED
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>>380882538
Patrician choice right there.
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>>380882772
The same reason you get a power armor and a gatling gun to fight a deathclaw few minutes after you leave the vault in Fallout 4.
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>>380882248
Her city was briefly occupied and the soldiers had to push the front back, that's when it happened.
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>"We will return her to our home so she can be judged"
>Found her tomb in Whiterun a couple of days later
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>>380883691
Where is this tomb? I didn't know there was a cemmentary in whiterun.
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>>380882248
You are looking at it the wrong way, the war in hammerfell ended the same way that the Great War did, with the signing of a treaty, since there are thalmor guys now wandering around the empire it wouldn't be unusual if they had a presence in hammerfell as well. Kematu also says that he is part of an active thalmor resistance group implying that they still have a presence there.
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>>380883369
First impressions? I hated that in fallout 4, also the fact that you play someone who is prewar, and the dumbed down conversations.
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>>380884076
What do you think the Halls of the Dead in every city are for?

When most named NPCs die, they end up getting their own tomb.
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>>380885419
Shit, really? That's a lot more effort that I would have expected from bethesda
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>>380881914
She wasn't telling the truth, but I personally find it distasteful to send a woman to her execution when she's already had to flee for her life, so I pretty much kill the people hunting her every time.

Not lawful, but I don't give a shit about Redguard laws. All I know is that there's no point to her dying anymore.
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>>380885640
Skyrim has a lot of weird little details like that. If you kill both of a kid's parents they're sent to the orphanage in Riften, if you kill a shopkeeper like Belethor for example, that Breton kid who chops wood for him will take over his shop, etc.

I only got it to work once, but I remember stealth killing a guard in Markarth and dropping his body from the highest ledge in the city straight down into the market and people crowded around him and gaurds came in to intervene telling people to back up and shit. One of them came up to me asking if I knew or saw anything, it was nuts. Never managed to get that to happen again for some reason.
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>>380886926
That's because there's a scripted event in markarth after you enter and leave a building where some cunt comes and stabs another cunt for the forsworn
sorry to burst the bubble but y'know
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>>380887083
Nah, it was well after that. I had already finished the silverblood quest when that happend.
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>>380887372
Well that's odd
I'm 100% sure that the only time a guard asks you about that kind of shit is when you watch them die
Or, uh, it might be after you escape the prison, I remember some guards cornering you at some point because they get paid off to kill you
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>>380887547
Nah I looked it up, it's an event that happens in towns if you kill NPC's and no one sees you do it. It just happens very, very rarely.

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/615804-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/69471500

inb4
>gamefaqs
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>>380881914
I just helped her because she was hot.
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Helped her out because the mod I had installed turns her into a lover if you resolve the quest in her favor

Also turned her in initially so you can kill kematu right outside the city and then reveal that you were actually on her side all along instead of having to go to the cave, saves a lot of time.
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>>380887691
>>380887873
>press g
>active her while she's downed
>select rape
When it's done she's hostile so I hit her with a frenzy spell and the guards snapped her neck.
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>>380887691
>Can't marry her

As a Redguard trying to preserve his legacy I felt a bit robbed. At least that slut from the temple of Dibellah was up to it.
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>>380887691
Don't allow yourself to be fooled by a preety face again. You're better than that.
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>>380882792
Post this shit
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>>380884335

The Thalmor withdrew from Hammerfell after they were fought to a standstill. They don't have the same power over the Redguards as they do over the Empire.
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>>380887873
I go to the cave so I can adorn all my houses with at least one of the dozen swords you get from wiping them out.
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>>380883691
You think they raped her before they killed her or after they killed her?
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>>380887997
>not having mods that allow everyone to be married more or less
bruh
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>>380887685
Well whaddya know
There's always little glimmers of not shit in bethesda games, like all those nice little random encounters in fo4
They're just hidden behind 0.01% chances or spawning in certain places instead of just randomly
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>>380888150
Source? You're talking out of your ass.
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>>380888264

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Second_Treaty_of_Stros_M'Kai
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>>380888264

"The Second Treaty of Stros M'kai was a treaty between Hammerfell and the Third Aldmeri Dominion. It signified the end of conflict between the two forces, and, after the signing of this treaty, the Aldmeri Dominion completely withdrew from Hammerfell."
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>>380887997
That kinda pissed me off too, for some reason all the hot chicks in the game wear shitty clothes and she was one of the few exceptions.

>>380888220
I'm a poorfag.
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Holy shit vanilla skyrim is ugly
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>>380881914
>One side lowers their weapons and calls for talks while you run in guns blazing
>The other draws a knife on you when approached peacefully
I think we all know who was in the wrong there.
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Why do redguards get -2 int? Is todd tryna keep a brotha down?
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>>380888890

She instantly assumes you are there to arrest her when you could just be a Redguard chaser looking to stir last night's boar and mead delight.
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>>380889082
>you could just be a Redguard chaser looking to stir last night's boar and mead delight.
Probably because its right after you tell her about the Redguards looking for a woman and in all likelihood you're a mercenary trying to get in on the reward.
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>>380888890
>One side lowers their weapons and calls for talks while you run in guns blazing
They knew they were fucked.
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>>380889331
>Oh, this person who came up to me an warned me surely is looking to do me harm lets threaten him with a knife
Only crooks apply that sort of twisted logic
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>>380886926
You can also get bandits to fight with each other by dropping valuables near them.
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>>380889028

Humans are just dumb.

Nords and Redguards are the "purest" humans and they have intelligence penalties. Imperials were oppressed by Ayleids and they have average. Bretons are mongrels and they're the smartest "human" race.
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>>380889331

You could just be passing on the news in return for a bit of a stir. Everyone knows Redguards are always up for it.
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>>380882541
Sorry but this questline is almost guaranteed to start after 10 min of playing, and it's actually decent.

>>380881914
No. Obviously not.
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>>380889395
No, you just came in through a water filled passage, logically they could have turned you into a porcupine before you ever left the water, they were honorable and reasonable however, while the one person who was actually fucked still draws a knife on you (and typically you'd be in full armor by that point)
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>>380889513
>Humans are just dumb.
>Nords and Redguards are the "purest" humans and they have intelligence penalties. Imperials were oppressed by Ayleids and they have average. Bretons are mongrels and they're the smartest "human" race.
WHO COULD BE BEHIND THIS POST
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>>380889672
kirk is a prog commie that devoted plenty of his races to alternative history of what could be without colonization and imperial aggression of ethnic minorities
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Around Elves watch yourselves.

If Elves are so great, how come a human became a god and no mortal Elf has ever come close?
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>>380882396
Every Elder Scrolls quest takes place in some damp cave.
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>>380881914
No, she left Hammerfell, where the Thalmor have no presence or authority, so she wouldn't be turned over to the Thalmor? For Skyrim where Thalmor have free reign and the authority to abduct anyone they want?
That's not how you avoid the Thalmor, that's how you avoid redguards.
Not only that bur her description of her pursuers are bloodthirsty assassins but are willing to negotiate and only ask you to help capture her outside the city when they could have easily set up an assassination in some remote place instead?
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I think she's lying but I don't suppose it matters in the end.
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>>380882541
Boo
Hiss
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>>380886013
But there is a point in a dozen honest resistance fighters dying in a cave?
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>>380891109
White knight logic, not even once.
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>>380890249
You mean three humans?
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BIG
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>>380883691
So obviously both sides are lying? Big surprise. Unironically though surprised Bethesda making such a grey nuanced conclusion instead of simple black and white genuinely surprising:
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>>380891303

Even better, I forgot about the Talos oversoul.
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>>380882538
This. She was the most attractive negress in the game.
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>>380888621
For fucks sake anon, pirate the pc version

inb4 Todd
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>>380891787
Though Hjalti was a Breton, so he does have a bit of elf in him.
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>>380891303
>Reading the Real Barenziah
>Tiber Septim starts referring to himself as "we" when flustered
Was a nice touch.
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>>380881914
I dunno. Every time she pulls that knife out I slaughter her like the pathetic woman she is. She really thinks she can threaten a fucking demigod on Tamriel? Dumb cunt. Hate doing niggers' dirty work but that slut can't can't shit without repercussions.
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>>380883691
I don't think you can take the tomb as evidence, basically once a character disappears from the game they automatically are counted as dead and the mechanic kicks in.
Just like when you cast a control spell on a vampire then they die, the courier comes to give you their inheritance, because they were considered an ally, probably the same thing, Bethesda probably didn't even take that into consideration, it's just a mechanic playing itself out, in my opinion.
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>>380889513

Redguards aren't even "human". They were a race of human like beings from the last kalpa, the last cycle of the world. Some of them were able to escape the destruction of that universe into the birth of the new one, and settled in yokuda. As the generations passed, they lost the technology that allowed them to enter the next u universe.
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>>380892805
Forgot the image.
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>>380893079
>blacks aren't human
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>380882792
>I loaded her from head to toe with BDSM gear and a leash then prostituted her out for easy cash.
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>>380892805

The actual character (As in their body) is moved to an off map death room. If you put yourself into it you find them naked, as well as how you left them, so if you cut off their head, they appear headless. You can resurrect them and bring them back to the normal game world if you like, and they'll go through their normal routine, but the game's characters will still consider them to have died because the flags have already been set.
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>>380891408
BREASTED
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>>380882792
Her updated face is fucking hot. I gave her the long orc d and was assaulted by town guards
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>>380894132
JACKET
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>>380893079
>Some of them were able to escape the destruction of that universe into the birth of the new one, and settled in yokuda. As the generations passed, they lost the technology that allowed them to enter the next u universe.

WE
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>>380892605

I've had trouble understanding it. So Tiber Septim was three separate people who combined their souls in life, then rose to godhood after death? This why his origin story is skewed, because he's the combined oversoul of Talos of Atmora, Hjalti Early-Beard, and Zurin Arctus, all of whom were originally separate people? Where does Ysmir come into this?
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>>380893079

So do the Daedra and the Divines switch roles each kalpa? Each time a kalpa ends, the universe is reformed, Anu and Padomay are rebirthed, and Lorkhan creates Nirn?
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>>380881914
never trust a hole
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>>380882538
>Literally the first time I ever used a sex mod for Skyrim was for her and her alone
I thought I was the only one.
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>>380891594
Someone who knows the word genuinely and still can't stop himself from saying "unironically" and sounding like a retard.
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>>380885640
>getting meme'd by /v/
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>>380894512
Talos was the one that was three people, not Tiber, I'm pretty sure. Tiber Septim was just the name Hjalti gave himself later on in life. I saved this pic that looked like it gave a fairly good explanation of what went on to make Talos.
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Fuck me Skyrim is ugly.
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>>380881914
Saadia is likely lying.

She claims they're assassins, but they don't kill her if you help the other Redguards. Also, if you kill her in front of them, they'll get angry that you wasted all their work in capturing her alive.

Her story doesn't match up with what's up in Hammerfell.


She's basically just making shit up to try to trick you with a sob story and a pretty face.
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>>380895784

So Talos is Tiber, Zurin, and Ysmir, corresponding to Akatosh, Lorkhan, and Trinimac, whom they mantled but did not replace? And the Underking is the shell of Ysmir and Zurin?
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>>380896114
character models are always ugly unless they're highly stylised

many parts of skyrim are stunning
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>>380897451
>many parts of skyrim are stunning
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>>380881914
Are you really expecting me to remember who this cardboard cutout character among dozens of others is in a mediocre game that is almost decade old?
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>>380897639
>6 years
>almost decade old
I mean...
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>>380881914
>trusting a nigger
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>>380897247
Seems like it, yeah. Mantling is all very confusing to me, with all that went on with that Talos business.
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>>380881914
no
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Anyone remember THIS classic title, anons? Nostalgia, amirite?
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>>380898175
yeah?
tf2 ruined itself with hats
civ 5 is boring
terraria is a shit game for 12 year olds
aoe2hd is still broken
skyrim is the best of those 5
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>>380898175
Look at this thread. It's full of people remembering it.
Modded Skyrim is bretty good.
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>>380888220
Muh heart
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>>380892218
>poorfag
>pc
What do you not understand?
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>>380898175
Fuck, I remember that... I don't understand why anybody would call Skyrim a classic. Sure, whether it's good or not is pretty subjective, but at the time it was only five years old! They could've chosen Deus Ex or Morrowind, or even and RE game!
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>>380898974
>Morrowind
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>>380897895

As far as I'm aware, you mantle something when you assume the role of it so perfectly that it is no longer possible to distinguish you from it. You, therefore, become one with whatever it is you are mantling, typically a god. This is why Vivec and the other members of the Tribunal presented themselves as aspects of the old Tribunal. They didn't replace them, but they did gain powers through the tapping the Heart's power and, in the case of Vivec, achieving CHIM, which suggests the mantler doesn't outright replace the mantlee. This explains how Shezzarines (And the spirit of Lorkhan himself) continue to exist even though Talos replaced Lorkhan in the TES pantheon.

One question though for those in the know. Are Shezzarines aspects of Lorkhan, or are they the divided soul of Lorkhan? Considering Lorkhan's heart and spirit continue to exist, might it be possible for him to fashion a new body for himself, and regain his divine power?
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>>380898974
Skyrim is a normie game, everyone knows it, shitload of people played it, Morrowind and Deus Ex aren't and had much more of a targetted audience and considering the other games they were probably going for games that were/are actually popular on Steam, Deus Ex and Morrowind are too old for that
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>>380898974
>Morrowind

I'll never understand this meme. It's a dull fucking game.
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>>380881914
Skyrim belongs to the Nords. It doesn't matter if it was truth. She was removed.
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>>380893079
U got a sauce for this, not saying you're wrong, I'm genuinely interested.
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>>380881914
Who fucking cares. Not like the game has good plot or characters.
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>>380889616
>Hello! We are looking for a criminal!
Okay, how can I find her?
>Well she's black. We've been questioning all the black women we've run across.
Oh. Do you know roughly where she is?
>Just somewhere in Skyrim no idea.
Okay then.

I never completed this quest. I probably passed this woman numerous times on the streets, but never stopped to ask if she was the non-descript black woman I wanted. I know she had a scar, but scars in that game weren't all that visible unless you were up close, so basically it was a matter of whether I went out of my way to talk to every black lady I ran into.
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>>380899384
>in the case of Vivec, achieving CHIM
I still don't believe he actually achieved that. I think he was just faking it.
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>>380882248
No. She was a thalmor informator.
If you sell her out, an thalmor assassin will try to kill you at a random encounter, even if you never make a move on the thalmor before.
And more important, trying to escape the thalmor by making a new life in skyrim is crearly stupid, and nobody's on hammerfell will follow a said "person who just speaked bad of the thalmor publicy" the thalmor have a war to win here, a dumb bitch who do this will be no threat to them because they have a fucking half of the country who want to slaughter them all. Don't let a pretty face fool you, you deserve better than that.
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>>380901675
There are literally two in the city retard, unless you count the 6 year old.
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>>380901675
She's in the taven about 10 seconds away from you when you start this quest
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>>380901864
>Don't let a pretty face fool you, you deserve better than that.
It's "you're better than that"
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>>380901675
>Just somewhere in Skyrim no idea.
They said she's in Whiterun, the city they were trying to get to before the guards kicked them out.
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>>380902104
>>380902159
In White Run? See, the thing that made me think the Redguard looking for her were idiots who didn't know where she was is that if you don't get right on it, eventually you see them wandering all over Skyrim absolutely everywhere, and every time they're accosting some new, random black woman. It made me figure she could be anywhere and since the quest reward was likely a pat on the back I never bothered.
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>>380902220
>It's "you're better than that"
It's "your better than that"
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>>380902415
And if you talk to them they say "we think she might be hiding in Whiterun, but we're checking everywhere to be sure"
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>>380902491
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>>380902647
So what was the quest reward? A shield one level below what you can smith for yourself? Maybe with a +5% alchemy enchantment on it?
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>>380898974
Most of the steam userbase doesnt probably even know what some of those are.
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>>380903160
500 septims I think
If you're playing unmoded Skyrim you've made bad life choices.
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>>380903160
Also you can't put an alchemy enchantment on a shield.
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>>380881914
>Just about to turn her in
>Leading her to the ambush
>See a fag in Rob's to the side of the screen, don't care
>Bitch gets paralyzed am about to be rewarded for the job
>The fucker in Rob's turns out to be a master vampire
>Starts fucking shit up
>Quest giver goes Allah ackbar on the fanged faggot
>Fight ends
>Rag head won't talk to me anymore
>Can't finish quest
>Redguard bitch is still paralyzed, just standing there
>Nothing I do can fix this
>Whiterun has a permanent bitch statue and king raghead fixtures outside it's walls now
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4 playthroughs and I always took her side just to fight the Redguards.
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>>380904834
>>Whiterun has a permanent bitch statue and king raghead fixtures outside it's walls now
ITS
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>>380905064
>just to fight the Redguards.
Racist.
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>>380881914

Even if she was telling the truth, I was always going to betray her, and then kill Keamtu and his boys.
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>>380881914
Fucking stupid cunt, you don`t even get sex for helping her. I always help the redguads now.
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I usually trick her into leaving the city with me and THEN kill Kematu.

She always gets so angry, it's adorable.
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>>380904224
Maybe YOU can't, but I certainly can.
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>>380881914
Maybe.
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XD
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>>380905982
>I usually trick her into leaving the city with me and THEN kill Kematu.
But why do you kill Kematu? He's a bro.
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>>380882772
that's not true though. The Morthal vampire won, forsworn conspiracy, the skooma riften one and blood one the ice are better
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>>380892218
he was making "le funny paid mods" joke
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>>380907901
>he was making "le funny paid mods" joke
It's a good topical joke anon. What do you want?
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>>380907647
>blood one the ice
Nigga that quest was terrible. You just walked around like a retard trying to make sense of the bad clues you had.
The first time doing it, i got into the killer's house and found damning evidence that he was the culprit but i couldn't do anything with it until i completed another step of the quest.
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>>380906525
Lol
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>>380881914
Doesn't matter, Bethesda can't write for shit.
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>>380908327
I DID THIS TOO

WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP
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I enslaved her. it's always nice to have a named Npc as slave instead of bandits, hunters or mercenaries
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>>380911972
Post mod.
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>>380907901
No, I was stating that I don't have money to spend on pc parts.
Fuck off with your "shit on everything for no reason" meme, faggot.
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>>380899782
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I wish i could force myself in the females of skyrim and impregnate them with my breton babies.
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Doesn't matter, I'm Pro-Thalmor.
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>>380913926
There's definitely mods for that
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>>380914021
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>>380913926
or be the female
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>>380913926
>breton
lol manlet
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NEVER SHOULD OF COME HERE
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>>380898974
Yeah they could've chosen Carnival Games as well, shovelware isn't appealing
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>>380881914
Did you side with her? She was telling the truth.
Did you side with the alik'r? She was lying.
>muh narrative
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How was Enderal? Was thinking of checking it out
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>>380885640
Skyrim had shitton of small cool things
never forget wooden mask and lightbugs conspiracy
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>>380916013
Explain for me these things
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>>380882396
No one ever said that the Alik'r were saints.
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>>380881914
>when you agree to kill the bandits but then agree to betray her and then betray the bandits sneaking her out the back but then betray her by leading her right to them but then betray the bandits by killing them and saving her and then get the payment from her and then kill her and raise her corpse just to kill her again
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>>380892605
I think that might have just been him using the royal "we" like actual historical rulers.
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>>380901803

Didn't he rewrite history so that he was always a god, yet somehow everyone (Or was it just you in Morrowmind) still knew he was born a mortal?
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>>380905064
t. Thalmor goy
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>>380916924
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>>380916924
You should consider applying as a writer for Game of Thrones anon.
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>>380916924
this is why I'm glad we have video games, so people like you have a nice safe way to let out some steam
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>>380906654
Dat hot negress tho
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>>380917318
He certainly wrote a lot of propaganda that he was always a god, like the Sermons. But since people knew he was once mortal, like you said, I think that was all there was.
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>>380913926
WHEN WILL YOU EVER LEARN
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>Want to mod Skyrim again
>Every time I do it's fine and dandy until about 3h and 200 mods in where everything crashes and can't figure out why.
>Scared my family will see all the sexual mods if they happen by my computer, they would dig in the files.

Is it worth the 12hs of setting it up again? Crashes are annoying on Win10 because you have to log out or restart.
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>>380894164
>muh dik
typical orc player
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>>380898974
>Morrowind
>Samurai Jack reaction image
jesus
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