total war warhammer cracked

Hopefully all the games will be cracked by the end of the month and Denuvo files for bankruptcy a week after.

>>380874649
lol who cares

GRRRRRRRRR

>>380874649
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH LMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

FINALLY

>>380874926
supposedly they're working on a v5 with daily online checks ala xbone pre shitstorm.
pc users are more used to online DRM though so it's not an issue

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lmao these groups are fighting each other now

>>380875150
>v5 with daily online checks
lol its gonna end bad. constant disconnects even with a good speed.

>>380874649
>Tfw still waiting for Unravel
It's the only game I want now after they cracked Abzu.

>>380875252
3dm are shit. bunch of useless chinks.
>piracy will be dead in two years
lmao manlets with shrimp dicks BTFO

>>380875252

They're always doing that shit. It's nothing new.

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i dont understand why these retard publishers keep paying for this shit when most games are getting cracked within a week now

they are still convinced that people would rather buy the game instead of waiting a few days for the crack

I don't know about the rest of you, but I stopped buying games on PC since Denuvo began spreading. That was the intention, right? Drive away consumers? They're doing great.

>>380874926
That's if SteamPunks can crack EA and Ubisoft Denuvo games. The only group that's been able to do that is CPY, but they don't crack games as often as SteamPunks.

>>380875252
>now
underage detected

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>tfw you've watched the rise and fall of Denuvo

>>380875502
3DM was always shit.

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>>380877354

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>>380874649
Congratulations, piratecucks, now you get to play the 2016 GOTY almost a year after release, LMAO.

how do we fix denuvo

>>380877821
at least i didnt pay for it lmao

>>380877858
we dont

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>>380877882
I bought the vanilla game for 12 bux during the humble bundle sale and spent over 100 hours playing. Best purchase I've made in years.

>>380878114
i pirated it and played 3 hours cause its shit then removed it
for free

>>380878230
I'm sorry you have shit taste and cannot enjoy objectively good things.

>>380878114
And now we get the game for free and get to play over 100 hours.

>>380875252
>now
underageb&

>>380874649
So Denuvo stopped people from pirating the game for a year, the period that most of a game's profit comes from?

Doesn't that mean it's working?

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But... my backlog...

>>380878230
You're obviously a huge fag. No offense btw

It's just a shame Sega pours money into garbage like this and Football Manager.

>>380877354
>watched it
>barely gave a shit through all of it.

>>380878114
I bought the vanilla game from humble bundle monthly too.
Except I'm noting serious balance issues from the lack of DLCs.
>Regiments of Renown
>DLC Units (non-RoR)
And when I think about it, those RoR thing (copypasta from mercenaries recruitment of previous games) were just intended to be DLCs/cashcontent.

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>>380877354
diabolical

It's a good game. Have fun.

>>380878492
It did its job for a while but now it's starting to look like games are getting cracked before the most profitable sales timeframe is even over

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>>380877354
As of now, is there anything left to crack?

>>380879004
>fun

theres that buzzword again

>>380878492
re 7 cracked in a week, prey 2017 in 5 days
top kek

>>>/t/

>>380879141
That was unfair. Prey deserved a longer window than it got. Fucking Abzu got >300 days.

>>380874649
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! WHAT THE FUCK BROS I THOUGHT THIS WAS OUR TIME TO FINALLY BTFO THE POORFAGS

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>>380879120
If it's not fun, then what's the point?

>>380875606
Because no matter how much people say they'll boycott Denuvo, or if it gets cracked a month or a week later, you already made your money back probably ten times from everyone during the first week going "Man I really wanna play this game NOW, I guess I'll just buy it", compared to how much they lost from Denuvo boycot, or even in the long run as they get a shitty company rep by having toxic always online tech that keeps breaking.

>>380879387
>Prey deserved a longer window than it got
it was mediocre and Im glad I pirated that shit.

>>380878858
>Regiments of Renown
Not an issue at all unless you auto resolve fights involving RoR, since RoR get a ridiculous bonus to autoresolve success rates. I'm actually glad CA punished autoresloving shitters.

>DLC Units
Are you talking about the other races that are not part of the 4 vanilla races? If so, then you're just bad at the game and I'm not even memeing. The empire and Vampire Counts are the two most powerful factions in the game and can counterpick anyone and anything into oblivion. Not even the elves are as good as these two factions.

>>380878492
wuz working, warhammer was released while denuvo was still fresh and not properly cracked, but now we have (bald) people that are able to crack it within days

>>380877354
You think companies really care if their game gets cracked eventually? It's to be expected. As long as they keep Denuvo up during the first week or two, they win. After that most games drop in sales anyways

>>380879632
It was this generation's System Shock 2.

>>380879032
Even if the Denuvo gets cracked in like 4 days. no one gives enough of a shit for Denuvo to have a negative effect on the companies that use it. Every extra day the game can't be pirated is just a bonus for them, you think they're going
>CODE RED BOYS OUR GAME GOT CRACKED, ITS GAME OVER FOR US
or
>Oh well, it stayed uncracked for a decent amount of time, it's better than not having Denuvo and losing even more sales

>>380879842
It's too late for lies now Harvey, you're getting BETHESDAD.

>>380879842
no it wasnt. Enemies in SS 2 were creepy, fun to fight with, prey 2017 had living feces as enemies.

>>380875606
because they have to appease the suits/investors who literally know nothing about this shit and think ip protection = good
they know it doesn't work, they know it's a waste of money, it's all about saving face.

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>>380880185
>The enemies looked like poo!

>>380879989
I didn't say game devs were panicking. But when you take into consideration that they need to keep paying the license, that some people will flat out refuse to purchase shit with denuvo, the overall negative image it gives to your product and now, the fact that some games get cracked in days/weeks, some publishers will probably be reconsidering using it in the future. Which is a good thing

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>>380879085
These are remaining uncracked denuvo protected games (of course other denuvo protected games will be released in the future). Steampunks seem to only crack v3 games and Baldman does v4 games. CPY are now doing v4 games, as well, I don't think they'll bother with older variants anymore.

>>380879842
It had great potential, but the enemy designs were bland as fuck, no matter what their backstory was, even on hardest the balance was way off, so after the early survival and having to be careful because you gotta melee most of the time and you get almost one shot in melee, you end up gathering tons of extra resources so it stops being a semispooky game.

Also I don't mind backtracking when done right, but Prey had pretty long loadtimes even on good rigs, so you run from one end of the ship to the other, spending more time in loading screens than ingame. And if you're gonna make old areas full of enemies again, at least give more incentive to explore old areas besides "Yeah you found a keycard in the other end of the ship, now go see where it fits to find 5 times less resources than you used backtracking here through upgraded enemy groups

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>>380880185
Shit, you're right.

>>380879085
No. Total Warhammer was the last game Denuvocucks kept taunting piratecucks with. With it being cracked, Denuvo is kill.

>>380880513
Poor little swede guy, his game is so irrelevant no one even cracked it.

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>>380877354
>tfw I tried to care but every game protected by denuvo looked like shit to me

>>380880627
genuinely think that game would have done better if had been cracked.

>>380880513
What does the yen and that other symbol mean ?

>>380874649
>pirating a multiplayer game

>>380880513
That's a whole lot of "who gives a shit" on that list. I might have wanted to play For Honor's singleplayer, but not enough to even care if it's never cracked.

>>380880489
Unless people actually put their mouth where their money is, the negative feedback from using Denuvo will never outweight the positives. The only way it's gonna work, is if people go "Oh fuck this game looks really cool... but it has Denuvo, so I'm not playing it." in masses. Which is not gonna happen. Everyone gives Denuvo games shit aslong as theyre mediocre games people don't really give a shit about.

And you don't have to pay the licence after your game gets cracked, do you?

Honestly it's 2017, I wish all the old people and security freaks would roll over already, so we could move literally everything into always online modes. I for one am ready to be looked over and spied on by evil corporations

>>380879518
>Man I really wanna play this game NOW, I guess I'll just buy it
Does anyone you know actually EVER do that?

>>380880185
difference is you played ss2 as a kid and prey as a jaded faggot

>>380880874
Probably. Isn't it on Origin as well? I find funny how EA would rather lose lots of sales than pay 30% to Valve. At least Ubisoft is smart enough to put it up on Steam, even if you're still doomed to uPlay.

>>380880898
It's 2017. If you can't portforward, there are programs that will do it for you, or even offer you list of pirate servers to play on

>>380881008
no

>>380879387
>Fucking Abzu got >300 days.
?? i played abzu and inside the very week they came out. Did you not play it before the bypass stopped working?

>>380881008
Yes, people who get hyped for games. Normies. People with money. 95% of gamers that don't give a shit about boycotting Denuvo games if the game in question is something they wanna play.

>>380880890
Section is online-only games, Yen is Origin games.

>>380880514
Something I would point out is that in SS2 enemies respawned by themselves over time whereas in Prey they only respawn after story milestones which makes backtracking less punishing overall. I played on an SSD so I cant speak for loading on regular hard drives but to get from one area to another the maximum load screens should only be two: one to the airlock/lift/lobby and one from there to where you're going.

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>>380880898

>another fucking denuvo thread

Why do we keep getting these fucking threads.

>>380881181
Yeah I'm talking about a proper crack rather than the bypass which I had forgotten about.

>>380881374
Poorfags get butthurt that they have to wait to play some games for free.

>>380881074
nope, played SS2 couple of years ago it was fun and original. Prey 2017 steals from SS and bioshock and makes it less fun.

>>380881216
But most normies do not pirate in the first place(since normies do not buy many games in the first place, care too much avout multiplayer etc), so there is no real gain

>>380875606
They have to please their double retard shareholders.

>>380881473
stay mad buyshitter

>>380881473

I'm a poorfag but I save up money for games I'm interested in, and I have like 600 hours in TWWH. One of the best purchases I've ever made.

Hyped as fucked for the sequel.

>>380874649
>muh lost sales
>muh stealing
I still haven't bought this game and i never will, but now i'm going to get to play it.

>>380880513
>Steampunks seem to only crack v3 games
So we should expect Sniper Elite 4 from them, next ? All the other remaining v3 games are Uplay/Origin titles or irrelevant ones.

>>380881551
>>380875606
How old are you kids? Seriously, you can't be above the age of 12 and still be this clueless about the fucking industry.

>>380880513
what's taking SE4 so long?

>>380881547
>most normies don't pirate
When I say normie, I'm not talking about just your basic chad that plays only Madden and Need4Speed. Many normies pirate these days, it takes literally 3 clicks and copying the crack if you're unlucky. If there's a problem, goggle or piratebay comments will always provide them with a solution.

And even most people here don't have an agenda where they wanna fight the power and boycott Denuvo. They see a game they think is good, they buy it if they can't pirate it. Most people who pirate aren't pirating out of necessity, but to save money for other vices

>>380880513
>>380882129
Actually it is v2 and v3

>>380882130
Not as clueless as people still wasting time and resources "fighting piracy" for sure, or people sucking corporate dick like yourself.

>>380880513
>Literally only shit tier games or online games
>S-STILL NOT CRACKED

I wouldn't even play the games if you would pay me for this

>>380882130
but it literally is
There are interviews with CDPR where they had asked larger devs/publishers why they used DRM and it was to appease the suits and make it look like they were proactively protecting their IP to save face.

How can (you) be so clueless, corporate cocksucker-kun?

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>>380882206
>they buy it if they can't pirate it

>>380874649
I still don't trust their encrypted keygen one bit

>>380875606
but warhammer was out about a year ago and has a few dlcs, does this crack include them as well?

>>380880513
It is 31 game actually, you have 17 here

pirates win once again hahahahaha

>>380882760
It's apparently updated to the latest version and has all dlc included.

>>380882906
considering denuvo wuz pirates up to v4 pirates was always winning even when they weren't

>>380882804
VR games are not on that list.

>>380875252
>now
scene groups sometimes shit on each other but if there's something they love is to shit on p2p groups. They can't refrain from shitting on them.

>>380882439
First of all, it's hilarious how demented you are assuming how I'm "defending" something just because I point out your cluelessness. Because of course, this is a matter of strong emotions and screams and insults, and not actual business rationale about basic understanding of the underlying principles.

Second of all: they waste nearly zero time and very little money, because implementation of Denuovo takes virtually no effort on the side of the developer and the licence is still not particularly high compared to your usual mid-to-large scale development budget.

What absolutely fascinates me is that you somehow managed to not figure out that the point of DRM like this is not to prevent piracy entirely, but to reduce it's impact and that is particularly during the short post-release result. Not only that this has been said and acknowledged by just about EVERY developer and publisher that ever spoke about the subject matter, it's something that anyone with half a fucking brain can actually figure out on his own. Basic. Common. Fucking. Sense.

>>380883427
Piracy only has impact if it's lost sales. There's zero proof to that, because that's the real common sense.

>>380883427
>reduce it's impact and that is particularly during the short post-release result.
too bad denuvo stopped being able to do that a while ago

Also, it really is to appease the suits.
Statistics show it doesn't work, they know this, it's just to save face and make it look like they're proactively protecting their IP so what happened to sony in that emulator case.

>>380883798
*doesn't happen to them
Though it could be accomplished with a simple notice saying please don't pirate

>>380882740
The game starts up, what more do you want?

>>380883427
Then why is DRM almost never removed after the cracks surface?

>>380882464
>all these games are shit

literally every time

>>380883715
>There's zero proof to that, because that's the real common sense.
While there is no way to measure the proof, that is not the same as there not being a logical assumption that at least some piracy actually constitutes lost sales. Especially during the release stage: the further away from the release date you are, the less likely it is that a prevented piracy could be turned into a sale. Which is why delaying the crack has always been the major concern for developer.

>too bad denuvo stopped being able to do that a while ago
Not really. Even the fastest cracks we got were around week or two past the release, which is already significant.

>Statistics show it doesn't work, they know this,
Actually, recent research suggests that it DOES work, but again the efficiency decreases rapidly after the release. The most interesting group is the group of hot-headed people who were hyped for the release and who don't want to wait, because those people are more likely to be impulse players if given no other opportunity. A player that is willing to delay his purchase is more likely to be a cautious customer or not actually all that interested in the title: but the group of people that are in high anticipation of the game are very likely to actually cave in and buy the game if they can't pirate it quickly.

>>380884157
Why would you remove it?
You don't really gain boost in sale by doing it - not unless there is a major issue with DRM which there haven't been since the late ninetees.

>>380884442
>Actually, recent research suggests that it DOES work,

What research?

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>>380874926
mfw I shit on Denuvo for a full page of my graduate level cybercriminology final and got an A+ on it.

I'm not even a pirate, I just wanted to have a laugh.

>>380884387
>sports games
>party games
>multiplayer only/focused titles
hmmmm

>>380884387
>Star Wars: Battlefront
>Titanfall 2
For Honor
Multiplayer game, so who cares.

>Unravel
>Plants VS Zombies: Garden Warfare 2
>Need For Speed
>F1 2016
>Fernbus Simulator
>FIFA 17
>Just Dance 2017
>Moto Racer 4
>Football Manager 2017
>Handball 17
>Train Sim World: CSX Heavy Haul
Shovelware

>Dead Rising 4
>Ghost Recon Wildlands
Genuinly bad games

>Sniper Elite 4
Subjectively bad game

>Dragon Quest Heroes II
Never heard of it

>>380884442
What recent studies support this "impatient pirate" hypothesis? Impatient people have loose wallets, pirates like free things,

>>380884442
>Why would you remove it?
Because it is just useless third party software tangled to your game at that point and it's only affecting people who actually gave you money.

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>mfw I really want a crack of Anno 2205 ultimate
>since vanilla was Denuvo-less and cracked, nobody wants to bother & already consider it "done"

>>380884118
A guarantee I'm not mining buttcoins or getting ransomwared next month.

I am not intereted in the War Hammers because it doesn't have any willys in it the last ne had spin willys

I am Canadian btw

>>380884601
>>380884965
Couple of qualitative anthropological papers, one of which I was part of, exist. I'm looking for a publicly available version now, though I'm afraid most of them are inaccessible, as they have been done for private companies and for good reasons not released to public. We had done a smaller research, "just" about 70 respondents, but over the course of a year and a half.

>Impatient people have loose wallets, pirates like free things,
There are pirates who pirate because they don't want to spend and they are a larger portion of the already large pirate group, but they are by no means the sole group. There is plenty of opportunistic pirates, who pirate because they can and because getting what they want for free beats paying for it, yet they still do want to play the damn thing. And again, these are people who are usually impatient and time matters to them. Which is exactly the groups most studios are most interested in. The research we have done indicates that mere announcement of Denuovo use actually made those people more likely to pre-order, in fact.

They only accounted for less than 10% of the entire studied population (which was also a qualitative-research based group, so the statistical relevance might be dubious too), still this suggests differences in hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue for the publisher on a mid-to-large scale budget. Which makes the investment into the DRM well worth it.

>>380885001
>Because it is just useless third party software tangled to your game at that point and it's only affecting people who actually gave you money.
How old are you, really?

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Seriously though where the fuck do you people even pirate shit now that pretty much every filesharing website is down?

>>380886024
it's not starting any additional process nor connecting to anything, both offline and online.
it's encrypted under VMprotect so denuvo cant easily look into it

>>380874649
#pray4denuvo

They're finished.

>>380886523
>as they have been done for private companies and for good reasons not released to public

You'd think that the people who sell DRM would want people to know that their product actually does something

>>380886796
fitgirl (repacks)
pc games download (direct links, mega)
piratebay
rargb
kat

>>380886796
Private trackers still stronk.

>>380884828
>Unravel
>shovelware
you have a super shitty taste

>>380886796
"""ruski""" forum

>>380887086
>You'd think that the people who sell DRM would want people to know that their product actually does something
I'm not surprised you would. As I said, you are pretty damn clueless.

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>>380874926
lol who cares

>>380877882
POORFAG LMAO

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>>380886523
How old r u?

Great argument, nigger.

>>380886523
>How old are you, really?
How old are you, really?

If you think that DRM is a "necessary evil" then good for you but don't pretend that it isn't just useless junk once the game gets cracked.

Ubishit will abandon the ship soon, those money hungry whores won't see much use to it soon.

>>380880513
fifa17 is available on ps3 and 360, no need to crack it

>>380887604

Do you remember the guy who tricked Denuvo Software into believing that he's a developer interested in their product and they sent him all kinds of information about integration and pricing and ROI and such? Why didn't they quote any of those "studies" at him?

>>380887995
Pretty sure they're running on the same engine as fifa 14.

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>>380888182
literally switch version

>>380886523
>How old are you, really?
Asked by someone larping an "insider", that's rich. >I just so happen to can't show real evidence, gotta trust my 70 sample size personal anecdote.

>>380874649
>total war warhammer cracked
Only 6 months late there OP

>>380887951
>Great argument, nigger.
It's not an argument. It's just an expression of frustration. The question you asked is so god damn dumb you can't actually say it out loud without actually breaking out in laughter: you can't exactly expect to be taken seriously after something like that.

But if you REALLY need me to break down the insanely obvious for you OK:
It's because they don't actually gain a market advantage by doing that. They don't benefit from it. They don't get a boost of sales, and the good will of the customers in this industry means absolutely fucking nothing.

>>380887952
>If you think that DRM is a "necessary evil" then good
I actually never said anything even remotely CLOSE to that, you moron. I'm stating the facts - or at least the things that are considered relevant in the business. What I personally think really does not fucking play at all here.

I don't think that is something you can even begin comprehending here though.

>>380888298
What exactly are you poor sods trying to achieve here? What is the point? Do you want to actually understand what is going on, or do you want to make up shitty excuses to ACTUALLY IGNORE what is going on in favor of feeling justified in shitty tantrums?

YOU FUCKS asked why the publishers insist on these measures. I would assume that actually suggest that you would want to know the answer. Clearly, you are more interested in desperately screaming so that you don't HAVE to hear the answer.

Again, the question of age really comes into play here. What is it that you seek? Emotional reassurance? Because above the age of 18, that should not really be the thing that matters to you that much anymore.

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>>380888737
>i dont play games that are older than 1 month

>>380888946
Trying to achieve here? Are you new? No one does things here to "achieve something". What is it that YOU seek? Emotional reassurance? Like we'll thank you for your evidence-less information?

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>>380877354

>>380890225
I kill time, but at least I'm not lying, or asking people to explain something to me and then lashing out against them for answering that bloody question.

>Like we'll thank you for your evidence-less information?
Information that you guys demand. You have nothing, I have at least something. At least that could get you start seeking more information or question the even more groundless beliefs that you had up till now.

It's just slightly fucked up that you'd go interact with other people, ask them for their input and then be mad that you got it.

You are humans and not children anymore, right? You should be able to figure out what discussion is for.

>>380882583
I'll buy a game if I can't pirate it an it's the kind of thing were I'm going to get spoiled if I don't play on release.

>>380890623
I asked for evidence, not anecdotes. Literally anyone here can say they aren't lying like that means something.
>It's slightly fucked up
Welcome to 4chan, enjoy your stay

>>380887370
This is literally the only game I'm still waiting for.

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>>380890623
>i have secret information teehee
>fine, share it
>no no you have nothing, i have something, it's your job to get something on your own

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>>380880513
I wouldn't play a single one of these games even if they were given to me for free.

This reply is protected by Denuvo. You can not use this reply anywhere else.

>>380891001
>I asked for evidence, not anecdotes.
I should have asked this earlier but... do you have ANY clue what qualitative research means?
>Welcome to 4chan, enjoy your stay
So your excuse for being a miserable pile of trash is "everybody else is doing it"?
Great thinking.

>>380891093
>it's your job to get something on your own
I shared what I have available. What you do with it is generally not my concern. That said, you going into an actual tantrum screaming how you don't have to listen just reflects very poorly on you.
Trust me or don't trust me, both is generally fine, but going onto a meltdown because the shared information offends your sensibilities: that is pretty fucking sad.

>>380891426
It's not research just because you said it exists. Hearsay means nothing.

>>380891426
This reply has been updated recently, please connect to Denuvo servers for authentication.

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>>380891572
>I shared what I have available

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>>380884667

>A+
>Graduate level

You wrote a couple of autistic paragraphs for your level 200 "cyber security" elective course, ranting about Denuvo and attempting to manipulate your extremely loose grasp on its functionality into something that sounds intelligent and well-informed. Your professor rolled his eyes through the entire thing and gave you an 82% for a lack of writing skill and not following the APA guidelines properly.

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>>380877354

>>380892184
cool story bro

>>380888178
Not him but can you give source on this?

>>380893283

https://www.reddit.com/r/CrackStatus/comments/4mtb46/conversation_with_a_denuvo_employee/

>>380874649
GNU/Linux version never had Denuvo. Guess its nice to see Windows users get the same benefit but if you don't like Denuvo shouldn't you switch to the OS where the games don't have it?

>>380893606
>Manual piracy monitoring (piracy forums) with regular updates per mail
So Denuvo shills are real. Where can I sign up?

>>380894271

>So what do you do for a living?

>I shill for a dead DRM...

>The titles protection with Denuvo Anti-Tamper see a crack free window of 1-12 month.

hehehehehee

>>380894271
explains a lot
I thought it was just retards shilling for shitnuvo because sony owned them
turns out it was genuine shills

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Its a good game
Enjoy it poorfaggots

>>380894962
I'ma pirate it and not play it, whaddya think of that?

>>380894654
Afraid V5 will bring the dark age of piracy?

Do I pass?

>>380894762
Apparently it's EA that made things happen.

>>380895040

LOST SALE

>>380895093
>Apparently it's EA that made things happen.
wut
why
People don't play EA games after spore, especially on PC.
It's legitimately a waste of money for them

>>380894271
>So Denuvo shills are real.
Do you know what the words monitoring mean?

>>380895093

We already live in a dark age of piracy. So many games you can pirate and almost all of them are crap

>>380895236
>Games released with the Steam, etc. DRM / license management are always cracked on day of release, the piracy groups have automatic tools to remove those – this was one of the motivation why we developed our Anti-Tamper solution mainly on request from EA, our first backer for this technology which was released September 2014

Do you really have to ask why EA are a blight though?

>>380895361
Sturgeon's law

>>380895603
but EA doesn't release games on steam and I don't think there's any kind of steam emulator type thingy for origin

>>380880513
dragon quest heroes 2 crack when

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>>380875252
3DM claiming piracy will be dead soon and thus implying other groups are too shitty to crack Denuvo probably got them buttmad.

>>380877821
I actually have the game but fuck paying for all the armies

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>>380883427
What's fucking hilarious about post like this is how they point out everyone's cluelessness while avoiding the fucking point.
The main goal of the video game industry is to make money, same thing for every industry, no need for a fucking doctorate or whatever in economics or statistics.
Pointing out the obvious, making people looking like mongoloid shit stains... If they were that fucking idiotic why would you post, heh?
Whatever it just seems you are trying to help delusioning people so they don't realize video games aren't made for them to "ENJOY", but for them to hype, buy, whatever the fuck you want from them to generate profit, nothing more.
But calling them idiots won't reverse the trend toward retardation.

>>380875252
>now

>>380874649
How much do devs spend putting this shit in their game?

It already sold like 2 million copies, I doubt they care anymore

>>380875252
>crack groups fight eachother
>news

lol

>>380897438
PRECISELY the reason why Denuvo exist and still in winning even with all these cracks

The point of it, as they said many times- give the release a time window where most sales happen

>>380897582

Most Denuvo-protected games didn't sell very well

>>380879635
>empire without flagelants and free man militia
>counts without corpse carts and mortis engines
>dorfs without 2h rangers and the slowing slayers
>orcs without squigs and nasty skulkers

the only competent free army is bretonia
Everything else is crippled without its DLC

>>380897902
>most

Not true.

>quite a few
yes

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can you port mods from steam workshop to the pirate release?
They really add to the game

>>380898109
someone has to rip them for you and upload them somewhere, the downloaders I've found no longer work

>>380878708
I read somewhere that football manager sells like crazy actually

>>380875252
>implying them all racing to see who can crack games the fastest is a bad thing.

look at him and laugh.

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>tfw i only care about Unravel, Wildlands and Titanfall 2
>only CPY cracks Origin and Uplay shit
>they crack games maybe once a month
>last one was some bullshit constructor hd

>>380891104

>I-I didn't even want it man!

Will pirate fags ever find a new way to be salty rather than this same copy paste post?

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>>380898210
good thing I have the standalone game then

>>380898297
Unravel is only 10 euros
just buy it™

>>380898297
>titanfall 2 had shitnuvo removed accidentally for a bit
>still not cracked

>>380898394
Name 1 objectively good game from that list, I'll wait.

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>>380875606

Like one other said it's more to comfort investors. Overall considering development costs it's not that much of burden and makes it look like they're very commited to squashing out a threat that's really a boogeyman at this point. Sergei wasn't going to buy it either way.

This does nothing for future pirates and frankly piracy at this point I don't think is a real issue in the US anymore. It's more from Brazil or Russia and parts of Europe where they massively overcharge for games in general.

Most games are so shit now that I don't care to pirate them or if they're good they're from a developer not yet tainted by a shit publisher so I buy out of respect for them.

>>380897148
>The main goal of the video game industry is to make money, same thing for every industry, no need for a fucking doctorate or whatever in economics or statistics.
Yet that entire fucking post was in part a reply to a guy who utterly failed to comprehend how "it's not a profitable decision" answers his question about "why don't studios take the DRM off after the first few weeks".

So yeah: you people are mongoloids. Like beyond ANY belief.

And it keeps on happening, by the way. We are dealing with people who routinely post shit like this:
>>380894271
>>380895236

Yeah. I have to be hones: this thread is choke full of people who have actually no right to even exist. So yeah: I'm trying to explain even most basic shit here because it's clearly desperately needed. We are dealing with people that think that EA had not have a profitable game since SPORE (presumably because they did not like EA's games and they are LITERALLY incapable of understanding that them not liking something does not mean that the thing has not been financially successful.
Or people who think that Deuovo monitoring pirate forums means they are fucking MARKETING there, instead of, you know MONITORING as the docs say.

So yeah. Pointing out the obvious more than desperately needed here. This thread is filled with half-wits in the most literal fucking sense. It's amazing, actually.

>>380898640

So how much do they pay you?

>>380898640
This is the maddest I've ever seen a shill get.
Why don't they train you guys with military/soviet/CIA psychological warfare techniques?
Seriously.

If I had shills, that's how I'd make them work.
This is just blatently obvious.

>>380898224
>I read somewhere
You can open the steam webpage and see that FM games are usually one of the top selling games

>>380880513
The only game I want here is Titanfall 2 for its campaign and maybe Sniper Elite 4. That's it.

>>380880513
I only want one game from that list. Come on.

>>380886796
There's dozens of popular public trackers. Use qbit search function if you're as retarded as you seem to be.

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>>380880513
>tfw we'll never get to play the masterpiece that is Dead Rising 4

>>380898751
>>380898898

Again, thank you for proving my point.
You can't even begin comprehending that Denovo literally cannot gain a financial advantage of marketing either here or on pirate forums because you are not an actual market.

You will rather believe that I'm a shill (and completely ignore the fact that in this very thread, a person claimed that nobody is buying EA games since Spore - because Mass Effect and Dragon Age and those fucking awful sports games they get three quarters of their revenue from apparently don't exist) than to fucking figure out that Denuovo's customers are exclusively middle or large size game development and publishing studios.

THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH YOU RETARDS.

I've dealt with some pretty dumb people. I've done research in socially isolated regions - in ghettos if barely literate gypsies: and don't think I've met over my interviews with several thousand people anyone as dumb as you guys are, and there is at least five or six of you here.

This is actually seriously terrifying. It can't be explained by IQ either, which is even worse.

And the worst thing is: the whole shill dance again: it happens literally right after a post that complains that I'm patronizing and not taking you guys seriously enough. You can't even make this shit up.
You think I'm a shill. For a company that specifically refuses to even communicate with people who are not vetted medium sized or large corporate bodies. Because apparently, I'm trying to convince you to... uh: buy a denuovo licence?
That is your rationale here. Just fucking think about it for a second.

>>380875252
ITS LIKE IM REALLY PLAYING WATCHDOGS

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>>380875252
I dont trust these steampunks guys, they came out of nowhere

smells like a honeypot to me

>>380899952

I've noticed you haven't actually answered this guy's question >>380888178

>>380880513
I just want the F1 game and Titanfall 2. Maybe Sniper Elite 4, or I just pirate Sniper Elite 3 again.

>>380899952
I forget the specific words for them, but there are several shilling techniques that involve doing what you're doing.
Basically damage control, pr, and trying to create the illusion of support for a group so that more individuals newer to the community either have a positive or ambivalent opinion of them, so that they can extend their reach into said group.
You're failing massively by the by.

If I was your boss, I would have fired you.
Seriously my dude, please read up on psyops techniques.

>>380898549
1000x this

I cannot speak for US, but the thought that anyone could face legal action for piracy is absolutely ludicrous here in Brazil, there's 2 kinds of piracy the ones happening on the streets where people are just too poor and too dumb to afford computers and the one done by the middle class

games always cost too much here tho, but it's actually gotten worse, PC games were cheapest when I was a kid

a physical console game cost 200 bucks, while pc was 100, nowadays that number's still the same, but thanks to the jews at bethesda, they feel confident enough in charging 250 FUCKING BUCKS for some games on steam, and other publishers like EA follow suit.

at this point not only am I using gog, but I pirate almost every game, and if they're retarded enough to put drm like denuvo on it, I just dont buy it, its not like I'm missing anything, I can count in my 2 hands the number of releases I've enjoyed in the last 4 years

>>380899952
Is it really worth it for a few cents per post? Go shill on reddit, shill.

>>380883427
>>380899952
>the point of DRM like this is not to prevent piracy entirely, but to reduce it's impact

Damage control

>>380900240
I actually did, not directly. Or more precisely, I wondered why people as clueless as him even ask questions about things they don't even have most basic understanding off.

I don't know if Denuovo ever used these kinds of research. All that I know to been done have been done by publishing companies. Second of all: qualitative research - and this is that anyone who has basic knowledge of antropological and sociological research - does not make for good marketing material. Because reading through a 60+ pages of material that can't be summed in pretty-looking numbers just generally does not sit well with customers. It's exactly the same reason why despite almost 40% of all marketing research these days is being done through qualitative studies, you don't see them ever mentioned by marketing companies in their add and business packages.

>>380900473
>I forget the specific words for them, but there are several shilling techniques that involve doing what you're doing.
Of course you did.
>Basically damage control, pr, and trying to create the illusion of support for a group
On 4chan. Or pirate forums. Because again: these places I prime marketing markets.

I mean I sorta get why you morons think people are shilling actual products that you can sell here, but this is some seriously tinfoil hat shit if I've ever seen one. And you actually cling on to it. Yes: the visibility here that will affect PR - in a thread of about 15 SEVERALLY mentally damaged kids and going to dissapear within the next half an hour: that is prime material for marketing. Totally.
And totally not possibility that I'm just a pissed off guy telling you people how dumb you are.

>If I was your boss, I would have fired you.
It's even worse, kiddo. NO SANE BOSS would ever hire anyone to do anything like I do. It literally makes no sense than anyone would pay for anything like this. Which is what should have tipped you off that there is something wrong with your theory in the first place.

>>380900964
Not in the traditional sense: damage control is usually used for softening the impact of poor marketing.

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>>380901097
>On 4chan. Or pirate forums. Because again: these places I prime marketing markets.

Yeah because nobody would dare shill on 4chan. Just ask Notch.

>>380886523
>still this suggests differences in hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue for the publisher on a mid-to-large scale budget. Which makes the investment into the DRM well worth it.

This is where I'm going to have to ask for some actual proof because otherwise I'm gonna have to call bullshit, all you're doing is citing studies you can't actually show us.

>>380895040
Eh, it's your bandwith to waste?

>>380883427
>it's hilarious how demented you are assuming how I'm "defending" something just because I point out your cluelessness

and then you proceeded to defend denuvo in the same post

>>380900837
>Is it really worth it for a few cents per post?
It certainly would not be. And again this might be tipping you off that your theory does not make much sense.

The most bizzare thing is that I don't think I've even said anything that would actually be positive for Denuovo. I've literally just answered a question with something you guys don't like, and then pointed out the sheer, insane stupidity of some the shit you spout.


>>380901354
>Yeah because nobody would dare shill on 4chan.
OK, since basic reading might be really too much to expect of you, let me put this into green text:
>I mean I sorta get why you morons think people are shilling actual products that you can sell here,
80% of the shit you think is shilling is actually either actual fanboys doing what fanboys do, or falsflaggers that find it insanely amusing how easily manipulatable you are, but there is some actual shilling here. I mean notch literally just put shoutouts to this board into his game.

Except Denuovo is not selling their product here. And people who would matter to the sales of their product don't go here either. And they DEFINITELY don't go to piracy forums.

I mean fuck me: you people still haven't realized that monitoring piracy forums might happen because they want to keep up with what the pirates do to be able to adapt to them and keep pace with them for fuck sake. It's also what the word "monitoring" means.

>>380901853
We've been through this. Feel free to disbelieve me, if you actually have any better sources.

>>380901975
>and then you proceeded to defend denuvo in the same post
Where exactly did I defend it?
Quote back to me the line in which I defend the program, or the company. Please.

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Loss due to piracy is an implied loss because it is not a calculable loss. You cannot, with any accuracy, state that because your game was pirated 300 times you lost 300 sales. You cannot prove even one lost sale because there is no evidence to state that any one person who pirated your game would have bought your game if piracy did not exist. From an accounting perspective it’s speculative and a company cannot accurately determine loss or gain based on speculative accounting. You can’t rely on revenue due to speculation, you can’t build a company off of what will “probably” happen. Watch “The Smartest Guys in the Room” and see how that worked out for Enron.

Companies try to combat piracy of their software with DRM but if loss due to pirated software is not calculable to an accurate amount does the implementation of DRM provide a return on investment? It is impossible to say yes to this statement. Look at it as numbers spent in a set budget. You spend $X on research for your new DRM method that will prevent people from stealing your game. That $X is a line item in accounting that can be quantified. Can you then say “This $X we put into research for our DRM gained us back $Y in sales”? There is no way to calculate this, it is not possible to quantify the intentions of a person. Also, there’s no way of determining which customers would have pirated the game had there not been DRM.

To add to that, the reality of our current software age is the internet is more efficient at breaking things than companies are at creating them. A company will spend massive amounts of money on DRM and the internet will break it in a matter of days in most cases. When the DRM is broken is it worth the money spent to implement it? Did the week of unbroken DRM for your game gain you any sales from potential pirates due to the inability to pirate at launch? Again, there is no way of telling and as such cannot be used as an accurate justification for spending money.

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What is a good class to start with in Warhammer?

Wanna play some Orcs or Dwarfs

>>380901985
>We've been through this. Feel free to disbelieve me, if you actually have any better sources.
Yeah that's not how it works. You're the one making claiming differences in hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue for publishers that make investing into DRM worth it, so the burden of proof is on you to provide sources.

>>380902101
Literally from the very same post:
>the point of DRM like this is not to prevent piracy entirely, but to reduce it's impact and that is particularly during the short post-release result.
>implementation of Denuovo takes virtually no effort on the side of the developer and the licence is still not particularly high compared to your usual mid-to-large scale development budget.

And in your follow up posts you defended it by saying there's research which shows it works and effectively prevents lost sales without actually posting any research to back up this assertion.

Oh shit, son. I've been waiting for this. Time to sign onto the botnet.

>>380901985
>but there is some actual shilling here.

And yet you called people morons for rightfully pointing out that shilling legitimately happens on /v/. Fuck off

>>380902374
Dwarves are very simple and easy to get into. Few buildings for units, good income buildings, armored out the ass which lets you spam early game units for quite awhile. Has some cool but shit units that don't work against most factions later on.

Orcs also have easy building options, but their units really take getting used to. I would say Dwarves or Empire, as Empire really play like a vanilla TW experience and they have the most variety of units.

>>380902439
>Yeah that's not how it works.
That is actually precisely how it works, you retard. It's your own responsiblity to be educated in the end. The entire discussion started with a child literally asking "why are the companies still using these DRM's?"
I don't actually gain anything in you guys beliving me - or otherwise. I can provide the little that I have. And yes, it's a little. But you fucks are utterly braindead and have nothing, and in such cases, even a little can help you.

>>380902710
>And in your follow up posts you defended
That is not defense, that is just facts. I don't claim that it's a GOOD thing that companies use Denuovo. In fact - and I have even less data on this than on my previous claims, but oddly enough it seems to be a generally agreed upon opinion - I think Denuovo is not advantageous to either customers or the companies in the long run. There is an number of concerns that most of these companies don't seem to be interested in examining but that may have long-term impact on their sales. Outside of bad PR, it's the old problem of reducing the number of people playing and reducing the mouth-to-mouth awareness of the title. It sure as hell did not help them gain any benefit from me, since it merely disencouraged me to try out a couple of games I might have tried and eventually end up buying already.

But that was not the subject of discussion. The subject of discussion was "why do they keep using it", "how much time and effort it takes to implement" and "what are the relative costs".

>>380902837
>And yet you called people morons for rightfully pointing out that shilling legitimately happens on /v/.
No, I did not. But this is kinda par for the course here, apparently. You people cannot make most basic logical steps or understand text on most basic levels.

I mocked you fucking retards for thinking DENUOVO would be shilling on pirate formus, or here.

>>380903568
>That is actually precisely how it works, you retard. It's your own responsiblity to be educated in the end.

No, that's not how it works at all you fucking retard. You make the claim, it's your own responsibility to back it up with evidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

t's not our responsibility to go on a wild goose chase looking for research you can't even provide yourself.

>I don't actually gain anything in you guys beliving me
Then why are you arguing? You're basically admitting you don't have a real argument, you're just shitposting.

>I can provide the little that I have. And yes, it's a little. But you fucks are utterly braindead and have nothing, and in such cases, even a little can help you.

You provided absolutely fuckall. Just pure conjecture and rhetroic while trying to shift your burden of proof.

>>380902252
>Again, there is no way of telling and as such cannot be used as an accurate justification for spending money.
Yes there is; they keep using it.
Are they retarded? or are you?

>>380903568
>No, I did not.

Yes you fucking did
>I mean I sorta get why you morons think people are shilling actual products that you can sell here,

Now watch as you try to backpedal and deflect to reading comprehension or some other banal shit. Fuck off you disingenous cunt

>>380904430
No there isn't, it simply isn't feasible or logical.
Calling people retarded is not an argument.

>>380904348
Still running in circle I see.
Not him, but please:
>It's your own responsiblity to be educated in the end.
Read some actual philosophy books. Not just quotes.

>>380900179
YOU SAY THAT ABOUT EVERYTHING

>>380903568
>That is not defense, that is just facts
The two aren't mutually exclusive, and your defense is hardly factual since it relies on a lot of assumptions and unsubstantiated claims.

The subject of the thread is the failings of Denuvo, and you defended it on the basis of what it's supposedly trying to achieve (only impacting first week sales) and the supposed cost of implementation vs the benefits.

>>380904348
>You make the claim, it's your own responsibility to back it up with evidence.
>t's not our responsibility to go on a wild goose chase looking for research you can't even provide yourself.
This is not an academic discussion. It's not my job to convince you of anything, despite the fact that you people think it is, for some inexplicably stupid reason.
Neither I'm asking you to find the research on your own. I've scanned the journals pretty throughly during this discussions: if I can't get to them (not without breaking my contract at least) then I'm entirely sure that you people won't.

Finally, burden of proof works on multiple levels. For an example: if somebody makes a consistent argument, and the other has none, then the discussion goes in the favor of the person providing the consistent argument. In fact: in reality, especially in philosophy, people don't go and demand proof from people who know something when they themselves know nothing.

But that is kinda besides the point, really. I don't know what you thought this was: but it was just me being kind to you sad sorry shits. And I don't owe you fucking trainwrecks shit.

>Then why are you arguing?
To kill time, mostly. It's a distraction from a serious amount of chronic physical pain I'm experiencing right now. And in an absolute crazy, illogical hope that maybe, just maybe, one of you will snap to sense, which would be great for everyone. But it seems impossible.

>>380904501
>Now watch as you try to backpedal and deflect to reading comprehension or some other banal shit.
Because apparently, being able to understand other people is banal shit that means nothing to you, guys. Great. Explains a lot.

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>>380875252

Unravel fucking when? i want to play shakyfu's game.

>>380904643
It works though.

>>380904693
I don't care how many actual philosophy books you read, anyone who thinks burden of proof doesn't have to be met by the person making a claim and says "it's your job to be educated" is retarded as fuck.

>>380880513
>Handball 17 still not cracked
Damn what is taking them so long, I've been waiting

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Oh baby, look at all these utorrent users.

>>380875252
How can these guys be smart enough to crack complex protection software but fight like elementary school kids among each other? Is everyone in the scene autistic?

>>380905297
peace on earth

>>380905023
>The two aren't mutually exclusive,
No, but they differ considerably in context and purpose.

>The subject of the thread is the failings of Denuvo,
Which means that no fact are allowed to be posted unless they directly reflect Denuovo in negative light? Is that how you people do this?

You can't say facts or truth in this thread because they might not be immediately interpreted as negative to denuovo!

I'm not defending SHIT you retard, because what I'm saying is not actually implying that I approve of their work or that you should approve of their work. Do you not understand the difference. That stating fact is not the same as approval?

Do you think that facts should not be stated if they don't immediately gratify your disapproval? Is that literally too nuanced stance to hold for you to deal with?

>>380875252
3DM is complete shit and deserves shit.

CPY, Baldman and Steampunks are the three musketeers in the battle against Denuvo.

>>380875606
Because there's a refund policy in case the game gets cracked within X days from release. I know id got their money back because Doom was cracked relatively quickly.

>>380905297
>all those retards using uTorrent
kek

>titanfall2 still not cracked

>>380905085
I've seen a thousand variants of this comic and only now do I realize that's fucking Hitman in the first panel, far left. Well Played, 47.

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>the list of uncracked games keeps getting smaller and smaller which means that Dead Rising 4 and Ghost Recon Wildlands will inevitably get cracked sooner or later

Feels good, i love to play mediocre games as long it's for free.

>>380896990

>3DM claiming piracy will be dead soon and thus implying other groups are too shitty to crack Denuvo probably got them buttmad.

Just as planned.

>>380905213
>"it's your job to be educated" is retarded as fuck.
Again, not him, but you are retarded for disagreeing with this.

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>>380893138

So was yours. See how easy it is?

>>380903568
>The research we have done indicates that mere announcement of Denuovo use actually made those people more likely to pre-order
>number of concerns that most of these companies don't seem to be interested in examining but that may have long-term impact on their sales
The former research is based on conditions that have no comparable control. The sales of other games doesn't mean shit. Each game sells on its own merits, by influence of games preceding it or developer behind it; you can't get data on what the same game would sell with/without the DRM unless you did something like sell two versions of the game side-by-side.

And then you say, "nobody wants to examine it but DRM likely has a negative impact on overall long-term sales", directly contradicting DRM being a positive.

>>380906457
>The former research is based on conditions that have no comparable control. The sales of other games doesn't mean shit
I wish you'd people just look up the concept of qualitative research. It's about the eight time this comes up. You fucks have no clue how this works, which is kinda sad given how obsessive you are about the whole marketing research and this also how half of all marketing research is done these days.
We are not basing this on statistical data, we are researching this on repeated interviews with with a focus group of informants that happened on a monthly basis in which they provided us with their spending habits, thoughts and opinions. Smaller sample size (though for this research, given that it was quite damn big collaboration of several universities, we managed to monitor a group larger than your usual targeted marketing focus research, so it's not actually bad...), greater depth and access to info that does not pop up on statistical tabs.

>directly contradicting DRM being a positive.
First of all, I did not say that DRM is positive. I've said that there is a reason to assume you can actually turn some prevented piracy into gain sales - and that this assumption is why DRM is continuously implemented and considered still succeful even if it merely delays the release of crack and not prevent it completely: which is not the same as saying that it actually improves the sales total, you fucking, fucking, fucking idiot.

Hell, there is actually much older an much more basic rationale here too:
Usually around 60% of all sales happen in the first three weeks. So even our research aside, on the base assumption that piracy = some degree of lost sales (we can debate how big degree, but that is besides the point - the publishers trust it does), it's STILL logical that publishers are satisfied with delay of piracy past the first few weeks.

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>tfw crackwatch first came out and most of the games were in red
>now the entire list is in green, majority of games getting cracked within a short time period
press F for Denuvo

>>380907970
majority*

>>380874649
Still will buy it after I get my new rig.

Reminder that Warhammer has already been cracked once but CA patched it asap

Won't surprise me if this happens again

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>>380907389
>being this buttmad
>as a shill

>>380883005
>game is cracked before it goes on a good sale with dlc
t-thanks denuvo

>>380901097
>Acting socially superior to someone not providing a source when you skipped your own sources beforehand

With the wishing genuine wishing of death on anonymous losers on the internet weaved into every post of yours over denuvo of all things I'd say the one who needs help is you bro

>>380905197
It objectively doesn't. You can't calculate the # of sales you gained from DRM for your game before it was cracked.

>Dragon Quest Heroes II
>>380880513
only game i care.

only game

>>380903568
>In fact - and I have even less data on this than on my previous claims,

it's pretty hard to have less than zero

>>380896990
>3DM told that no one will crack denuvo and that piracy will die on purpose so other groups will move their ass and actually crack them
They are hero we deserve

>>380880513
>Battlefront
MP only, never getting a crack anyway
>Unravel
Wasn't there a exploit to crack it anyway?
>PVZ Garden warfare 2
>
>NFS
Multiplayer-only
>Just dance 2017
>Fifa17
Y tho?
>Titanfall 2
MP focused, though SP is pretty good as well.
>Wildlands
MP Only

Alot of you are talking about piracy and rate of return and whether the amount spent on DRM is going to equate into sales and whether it has an affect on piracy rates or not.

I will tell you one thing that is actually a significant factor that is actually over looked in evaluating rate of piracy. The languages that the game is available in. Notable example is that Punch Club had a very low piracy rate but as soon as the game had a Portuguese language version the piracy rate had increased to massive amounts because of the game being pirated to ridiculous levels in Brazil.

https://techraptor.net/content/punch-club-pirated-1-5m-times

If you want to cut back on Piracy? Don't localise it in Portuguese.

>>380905339
>Competition is bad and won't produce better results by pushing competetors to their limit.

Fuck off, commie.

>>380916754
They wouldn't have bought it anyway, retard.

>>380918097

That's the point, retard. DRM doesn't matter.