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>Arkrane is good dev- Nope, not anymore.

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>Arkrane is good dev-
Nope, not anymore.
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>>380860050
The price of working under Bethesda.

The next one doesn't look so exciting, though. Prey was pretty good. They should just make new IPs and try to be the new Looking Glass.
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>Representing an ignored minority is now considered a bad thing by nu-/v/
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Playing as Emily is good tho
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>>380860826
Women are neither ignored, nor a minority.
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Emily>Corvo

>better dialogue
>better powers
>better penis
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>>380860050
Wasn't this obvious? They didn't even have to say that outright for people to get it.
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>>380860543
I just want the Arkane back that made Arx Fatalis, just some guys that made vidya because that's what they wanted to do. Instead they just keep getting assfucked by bethesda
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>>380860826
>women are an ignored minority
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>>380861128
Despite being assfucked all the time, Prey and Dishonored 2 is good enough
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>>380860050

Just in time Arkane, just in time.
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>>380860826
>50% is a minority
I want off this planet
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>random twitter activists dont have any effect on games! just ignore them!

looks like nu-/v/ was wrong again
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>>380860050
>make a SJW game
>it flops

Wow
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>>380861267
nu-/v/ is the Twitter activists anon
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>>380861218
Go for it, it's better than the first
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>>380860050
how is that bad thing though ?
it's offers more replayabilty than the first one because of this
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>>380860050
Emily is the best thing about Dishonored 2, though. Her voice in particular gives me the fucking diamonds. Playing her in NG+ with all her powers and Corvo's Za Warudo is GOAT.
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>>380861187
But imagine what could have been without publisher meddling
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>>380861187
I'm not in complete agreement, but these two games at show that they're willing to put effort into level designing, making an interesting environment to explore. Prey moreso.

But I can't help but feel worried.
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>>380860050
>interviewed by anita sarkeesian

Letting Sarkeesian interview you and taking it seriously is like taking a homeless guy off the street and asking him his thoughts on quantum mechanics of wormholes. He isn't qualified at all to answer and will probably have no idea about any of it.

Sarkeesian is not a journalist, she isn't qualified, and she knows nothing she talks about at all. If you take her seriously as a journalist for your company, you have failed.
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>>380861328
>implying the twitter activists and the "apathetic extremists" arent the same people shilling
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>tfw /v/ is triggered by women so badly

Jesus christ this is hilarious + pathetic. Sometimes you make /r9k/ look like fuckin Chads, dude.
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Arkane not SJWs they said.
>but it's established character!
Yeah right. Established just in time I'd say.
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>>380861486
almost everygame would be fine with having just a little team with really have a good vision of what the game should be
but like for movie it rarely happens
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>>380861486
I know

>>380861508
IIRC the only bethesda meddling on Prey was making them rename the game to Prey
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>>380861530
>implying i don't know that
>implying i don't just want /v/ back to being /v/ and not about how /pol/ is a boogieman and that /v/ totally isn't sexist or racists guys we swear please don't hate us
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Read Harvey Smith's twitter

Hes not shy about what side of the fence hes on
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>>380861236
>52%
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>>380860050

And seeing that both Dishonored 2 and Prey bombed we can see that Arkane priorities REALLY helped them.

Welp.
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>>380860826
No anon. You are the nu-/v/
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>>380861621
hum she was in daud dlc though
i'm really sad she isn't dead though corvo/emilie should have fukcing stabbed her right on the fucking boat and just fucking left the corpse to rot in the sea
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>>380861621
Dishonored 2 didn't sell that good. Why do they think that putting a monkey on their DLC will change that?
It's just a little detail, but the cover of Dishonored1 with the Corvo mask, interested me.
This cover is repulsive.
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>>380860050
pray tell how many units you sold thanks to this "interview" ?
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>>380860050
I played through both campaigns (thanks piracy) and i gotta say Corvo has the better story cause its his homeland and all. Emily just talks about how Corvo said the place and its people were. Felt tacked on.
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>>380861729
>>380861846
hey they might sell some copies to feminist now
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>>380860050
>thanks to sjws we got a different route for a second playthrough
How is this bad exactly?
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>>380861986
>feminists buy and playgames
tell that to the Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP devs
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>>380862012
Let me rectify this :
>Thanks to SJW we have a shit story which is a copy paste of the previous DLC.
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>Sequel never ever

RIP Arkane. Such a good game, fuck it I'm downloading it again.
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>>380861657
What was the original name of the new Prey?
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>>380860050
D2 was a flop, it sold like shit and they were forced to have free access to try boost numbers and sell it 50% off in the first 6 months.

They can be as cunty as they want but they are paying for it, so enjoy.
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>>380862231
It was Typhoon or something
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>>380862012
Dishonored 2's campaigns were just the same shit. Even Emily's lines were just corvo's.
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>>380861980
>Felt tacked on.

that's because it was
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>>380862198
Ah i own a copy of this. Good memories.
Too bad it's linked to a lost steam account.
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>>380862287
Typhon, then? Like the race of aliens in game?
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>>380860826
Women are the majority.
Women have more rights in the west than men, if not outright rights unwritten ones.
Women are about as privileged as it's possible to ever be.
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>>380861986
wew
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/marvel-exec-claims-forced-diversity-female-led-comics-responsible-for-slump/
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>>380862364
Yeah, that's it
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>>380862120
it can't hurt sales honestly
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They implemented a female character well though. Emily is fun to play as.

There is literally nothing wrong with diversity, but it certainly shouldn't be something that is forced on developers.
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Does Bethesda do that retarded shit where they need their games to sell at least four million or else the IP is up on the chopping block?

I really liked the new Prey. There are a lot of System Shock 2 wannabes, but this one put a lot of it's competition to shame.
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>comunity/playerbase didnt like something
>better do it even harder so some peope on twitter can make smug comments
the state of this industry
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>>380862410
Not him but there are more men born than women. I agree with your other points.
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>>380862309
That's a lie, Corvo's dialogue would talk about coming from Karnaca, Emily would comment how she's in a new place, plus Emily was an explanation for why you had new powers, you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>380862120
what they say?
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>>380862502
Doesn't look like it at all. I mean we're getting TEW2 of all things.
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>>380862412
you can play corvo though nothing is forced here
and comics fan are very different from video games fan
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Call me a cuck but I played DH2 and the woman didn't bother me
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>>380861813
do you think you find it repulsive because you think anyone with darker than white skin is 'a monkey' or do you think it might be something else
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>>380862509
In the west.
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Steampunk is a reddit aesthetic. Dishonored should come with a fedora.
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>>380862607
I don't understand the relevance of the first sentence. Did you misquote? Your second sentence is irrelevant too. Much like feminists will complain about comics but not read them, feminists will complain about vidya but not play them. Polite sage
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>>380862607
The game was heavily marketed with Emily (cinematic trailers, "reclaim your throne", etc.).
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>>380862569
themselves nothing, but their game is the only one the armenian bothered to recommend/comment positively on, and it didn't register on any metric available (steamspy, concurrent players shortly after the video was released, etc)
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>>380862654
Everything about Billie and the new DLC is overblown anyway
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I thought Emily was fun to play as after my Corvo run
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Well, Emily is the better character to play as so I don't mind. That and I'm not an easily triggered baby.
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Emily was ok. Playing as her suited the story a lot better as far as the 'she was a pretty shit empress before this and needs to do better' thing goes.

Course the story itself was pretty weak, they're should've went with new characters.
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>>380862696
No. I like black women. This character is ugly. Thats all. Should have kept the mask on.
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Just started playing it yesterday and I never played Dishonored 1 and I went with Emily first and I'm enjoying it so far. Don't know what's the issue
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>>380862607
Anita was mad that you could play as Corvo at all. But she still called it her GOTY.

Just a reminder that if you like Dishonored 2 you like Anita Sarkesian's GOTY.
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>>380860826
>You have to fill diversity quotas or else
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>>380862696
A game is a piece of entertainment that lets you play as a character.

Since most of the target audience are white they don't identify with a black lead and so don't buy it.

Social justice people say this doesn't matter, yet they want more blacks and women? Why? because it does matter.

As such they don't buy the games.
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>>380860050
I dont understand, anons always tell me that anita doesnt have influence on devs.
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>>380862979
I bet she drinks water too
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>>380862696
triggered
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was thinking about getting the first one, but after this mess i dont think i will
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>>380862509
yet women are 52% of the population
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>>380862824
i agree it's dumb that the story is more corvo focused in reality
the story makes more sense into emily point of view honestly it fit's the revenge theme better imo
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>>380862834
as is everything about women or black people on nu/vpol/ WE WUZ KANGS U GUYS XD
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>>380862410
>Can't even exist in a game without people losing their minds.
Yeah, more rights.
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>>380863058
>Anita
>a living organism
I heard she's more like a vampire.
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>>380863156
its cracked now just pirate it
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>>380860050
>game sells like shit cause they "punish" their audience with something they know they don't want
"Take that nerds!"

They realize this isn't sustainable right? You can't have disdain for your audience long-term, they will turn on you eventually and you'll be out of work.

These privileged man babies with designer beards will have to actually get a real job and then they will see the world how it really is.
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>gameplay and story are literally butchered in half
>heh, I don't mind playing as Emily I swear!
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>>380863161
Post citation please. I'm very interested to see not that I think you're wrong but still, I like empiricism
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>>380863208
Why is it has to be this way
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>>380860050
>>>/pol/
Fuck off cunt.
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>>380861621
this "female character" looks like a gay man. If Prince wasn't dead he would sue.
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That's why i pirate every modern game in the Market.

FUCK SJW'S
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>>380863058
>men are made from 70% water
what a fucking slut
>>380862979
i wouldn't say goty the game was a little bit too short for my taste and the story didn't work as well as the first one
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>>380863305
'does', not 'is', anon.
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>>380863295
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sex_ratio
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>>380863219
Men want females in games.

They just don't want ugly bitches, which is what Feminists demand.
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>>380862502
>There are a lot of System Shock 2 wannabes

Like which?
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>>380863407
thanks babe
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>>380860826
>tfw people dont know this is a male cosplayer
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>>380860826
It's not ignored, it's underrepresented at best, but the complaints are overrexaggerated.

They also keep ignoring that the main reason for male MCs is to keep women out of harm's way, because here's what MCs do: they repeadtedly die everytime the player losts.

And then they'll never ever mention the cannon fodder being 100% male in video games, because if they do that, they'll have to acknowledge the reason: it's again about not depicting women dying.

Feminists can eat a dick until they figure out what's good for them.
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>>380863431
damn our women are going to get CHINKED hard
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>>380863208
>/vpol/
>nu
try harder, neogaf
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just imagine what DS2 would have been if they didn't waste time with two main characters
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>>380860050
There's nothing wrong with female protags retard
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>>380863431
Well right off the bat, it is claiming that the global sex ratio is 101 male/100 female.

Also
>An additional problem is that many of these men are of low socioeconomic class with limited education. When there is a shortage of women in the marriage market, the women can "marry up", inevitably leaving the least desirable men with no marriage prospects. In many communities today, there are growing numbers of young men who come from lower classes who are marginalized because of lack of family prospects and the fact that they have little outlet for sexual energy. There is evidence that this situation will lead to increased levels of antisocial behavior and violence and will ultimately present a threat to the stability and security of society
I didn't come here to feel.
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>>380860936
>>380861129
>>380861236
Women are a minority in video juegos
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>>380863618
it is when they are added just to adhere to a political ideology
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>>380863609
and with Prey
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>>380860050
Men everywhere hate this.
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>Game givers you the option to be a man or a woman
>/v/ complains

I get you complaining when its one converted into the other, but whats the big deal? Its not like emily is out of place, its exactly where she'd be in life due to the events of Dishonored.
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>>380863002
>Most games made to appeal to white men
>End of the world when occasionally, a game doesn't

Honestly, it's fucking stupid how salty /v/ gets over playing as a black guy, but expects all black guys to enjoy playing as a white guy. Gonna leave this here.

"The Pew Research Center found that 19% of Hispanic respondents and 11% of Black respondents described themselves as "gamers," compared to 7% of Whites.[2] Another report by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that African American and Hispanic youth ages 8–18 spend more time with video games on average than White youth.[3] Nielsen survey research found similar results.[4]

In her work, Adrienne Shaw describes how the gamer identities of players intersect with identities of gender, race, and sexuality.[5]

Another Pew study showed that 89% of Black teens play video games, as well as 69% of Hispanic teens. In addition, white and Hispanic teen gamers were 'more likely than blacks to report feeling angry while playing online.'[6]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_video_games
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>>380863161
Chinks and gooks make up like 60% of the world population. This obviously means that white people are the REAL minority in video games and need more representation. Checkmate SJWs!
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>>380863698
>posting old games.
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>>380860050
>not anymore
They haven't been for a while, their last good game was DMoMM
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>>380863775
they wasted time and money just to please SJW's
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>>380863718
>fans: we want a female protag
>devs: ok
How is this political retard?
>inb4 muh cultural marxism
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>>380863609
An amazing game? A game better than D1 at least
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>>380860050
>dishonored 1 was a success
>dishonored 2 was not
looking forward to more SJW flops
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>>380863924
>fans
stopped reading there
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>>380863852
>This boogeyman

Wow. just wow dude. I don't even know how to respond to this, and i'm not going to bother with the usual long paragraph of bullet points, because you wouldn't listen and just send me a )you) or something.

TO the point: You're wrong. Putting a woman in a game is not "SJW" "SJW is when they force a political standpoint and make that character the prime focus to appease the masses from a multiethnic perspective. Emily is hardly "The main focus"
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>>380863775
Because of that the story was heavily impacted.
Not to mention that they forced the same antagonist because of strong females (that we killed in the end of DLC).
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>>380863843
>TLOU
>FC3
>B3
>old games
fucking neck yourself underage cancer
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>>380863791
Nobody wants to role play as a nigger.
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>>380864023
>Emily is hardly "The main focus"

I see that's why she takes up half the game
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>>380863924
>fans: we want a female protag
Said no one ever. Neck yourself
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>>380864016
Can't handle the truth huh?
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>>380863696
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/08/19/see-where-women-outnumber-men-around-the-world-and-why
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>>380863924
>sjws who don't play games are fans
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>>380864047
I'll agree with Delilah, I fucking hate her being the villain of 2, but playable emily was well thought, brand new powers, and its about time corvo's daughter got to kick some ass with her father, so I don't see the issue here. I think you're all jsut a bit too tipsy on this SJW koolaid floating about the world these days.

>>380864141
"Half is full
Please go back to school anon.
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>>380863350
Back to Neogaf.
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No buy
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>>380861621
>people bitching about what she looks like
>"but the race of a character isnt important"
All I care is that they give her some unique new abilities. I love that in DH2 NG+ you can choose from either characters abilities, and the coolest part about the original games DLC was Dauds remixed abilities. I'd rather it be her than playing an established character again. Being able to pick Daud would be cool, but the game isnt out yet so im not going to judge its worth off a character design that is in both the games extensively
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DH2's story only makes sense if you play as Emily anyway.

You see her go from irresponsible stoner bitch to actually wanting to take care of her kingdom, in Low Chaos anyway.

With Corvo its just another round of "gotta save the day, again."
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>>380864023
>SJW is when they force a political standpoint
like bending to anita the retard, of all people? It's SJW shit, moron.
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>>380864083
wow, so the most recent games you found among your shit list are from the last gen? Well done.
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>>380864218
>wah wah gamer feminaaaazis aren't real gamers :(
What year is it
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>Make game with two main characters as siblings
>Both have a variety of play styles and their own stories that affect one another
>Release it on the market
>/v/ finds it
>GRRR THERES A GIRL BOYS, ITS SJW TRASH GRAAAAH

Yup, this is our future.
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>>380861621
Knife of Dunwall, retard.
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>>380864328
it's the CURRENT YEAR, SJW
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>>380864321
>muh technically correct
kill yourself tbqh
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>>380864213
This was interesting. Thank you anon.
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>>380863606
I've been here since forever and it's ridiculous now. Every thread is pol, video games do not matter anymore, all it matters is how many women or niggers are in the game. At least
before shitposting was about the games.
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>there will never be another Arx fatalis


Recommend me alternatives
Hard mode: Released after 2000

There literally are none.
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>>380864331
The answer is to return to making games that reflect the people who buy them.
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>>380864331
>literally an article on the devs pandering to Anita
>uh nope, no agenda here
lol, this femtard damage control
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Female protag is fine, extremely poorly written characters, scenarios and overall plot is not.

Emily is also insufferable, starts the game whining about not wanting to do her duties, spends the rest of it making excuses for having fucked everything up and promising to do better... why the fuck do I want her to win?
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>>380864331
Nu-/pol/ was a mistake. They're obsessed with identity politics.
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If women are SJW, lets make samus a man.
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>>380860826
That better be a guy.
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>>380864254
>All I care is that they give her some unique new abilities.

That's the problem, all most people care about is the mechanics since that's what makes the game fun. So when SJWs whine that they want some aesthetic change, devs have no problem caving to them - it doesn't really affect gameplay too much. They're going to keep caving unless we stop ignoring aesthetics, develop some higher aesthetic sensitivity, and start demanding good-looking characters.
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>>380864452
Hush baby.
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>>380863509
Bioshock, for one.
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>>380864507
>If I want to make a point I make a strawman
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>>380863791
now apply those percentages on the us population and see which group is the biggest
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>>380860050
I always see these threads, can anyone tell me how this actually affects the game?
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>>380864481
>that reflect the people who buy them.

Oh this is fucking rich, you honestly believe this, Okay wise guy, lets play with your little theory.

>Earthbound releases
>WTF THERES A WOMAN IN THIS GAME
>WTF THERES A BLACK DUDE IN THIS GAME
>WTF THERES POLITICAL THEMES IN THIS GAME
>WTF THERES KIDS IN THIS GAME
>WTF THERES DONALD TRUMP ALLEGORIES IN THIS GAME!
>WTF THIS GAME STINKS AND IS SO RACIST
>WTF THERES ABORTION IN THIS GAME

Your "Beloved" classic would be a riot in the streets in 2017 if not for it being an old game. Chew on that would ya.>
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>>380864403
uc4
ac origin
beyond good and evil

here, 3 blacks.
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>>380864792
money and time
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>>380860826
Why do they feel the need to be represented? I sure as hell don't feel represented just because I play a white dude in a game
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>>380864757
spotted the triggered tumblrina
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>>380864792
Emily was a good addition to the game since her powers are unique and play much differently than Corvo. The game overall is a vast improvement over DH1 in terms of level design and challenge.
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>>380864678
That is the US population. Pew Research Center is an American organization and this study was conducted in America. Is it really that hard for you to believe that races outside of white people like to play games?
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>>380864792
It doesn't but a nigger fucked my high school crush therefore the sheer sight of black skin in my precious vidyer triggers me.
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>>380862231
System Shock 3. Not even kidding.
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>>380864468
>tfw making pies
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>>380864792
It affects sales of said games.
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>>380864904
but emily is white
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>>380863924
>tfw an increasing number of female protags are authored by insane ex-fanfic tumblrites with zero skill
name a female protag from the last year who had notably good writing
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>>380864792
Developing multiple models and rigs and such costs resources, time etc.

Developers will often cut corners when pandering to certain crowds (check out the neptunia games for a non "hurrr feminism" example of what pandering begets) and as such people will respond negatively to pandering (unless they're being pandered to, obviously) because it negatively affects them.
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>>380864820
BG&E doesn't even have a protagonist yet. Everything points to you being the captain of the ship, who wasn't shown so they're either holding onto that info or it's costumizable.
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>>380863698
>Shepard
>2 characters from heavy rain in the game where you play as women
>Chris the guy with ever game he is in you can play as a girl
>Using Ride to Hell for anything
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>>380860050
Emily is a monster, Corvo dindu nuffin
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>>380860050
Who cares?
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>>380860826
>He says while posting a boy
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>>380860826
>ignored minority
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>>380861621
>crippled the whole way through DH2 and probably some good years after the first DLC
>somehow gets mechanical limbs just in time for a DLC
>has to play as this girl instead of Daud
>kill
>outsider
2/10 would watch on yt and forget about it
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>>380864815
>being hysterical
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>>380865112
clearly you do, cuck
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>>380860050

That kind of sounds like what happened with the AC series. After alllll those games they finally got a female protag in syndicate, she was pretty well written even if the bulk of the story was the old 'siblings don't get along until they almost die at the end' thing

Then we have this...'thing' where people act like they have a problem playing as a female protagonist, which to me is hard to tell if its just a meme or them being serious

>>380863774

Then Yoko Taro comes along and makes this game that shakes the entire internet

Yoko: Just make the games you really want to make and not care what people think

World: THANK YOU BLESSED TARO-SAN

Suddenly people are fine with a female protag and its very easy to hyper-sexualize her because of her outfit

Female protags? - Not okay because MUH MANLY MAN PROTAG

Female Support Characters / Antags Who Are Partially Sexuazlied - Femnzai's grab their torches and pitchforks

Sexualized Female Protag In A Japanese Game - HOLY SHIT PERFECT! THIS IS NIRVANA

I'm not really criticizing when this kind of thing happens its just...incredibly hypocritical

And sorry for the 'redit spacing' or whatever it looks like, i didn't feel like writing this as a single giant paragraph
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>>380862462
They didn't implement her well for the same reason Telltale fucked up season 3 of their walking dead series. They took an ending, and then said "fuck it, let's keep going"

Dishonored has a nifty setting. A setting that can be explored in a thousand different ways. Instead, no, retcon the original ending where Emily is a wise old princess raised by Corvo who dies peacefully. Now it's all about her being a badass assasin protege, and Delilah returns for some reason.
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>>380864532
>>380865121
Oh so it is a guy, why do we need women when men do it better anyway.
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>>380865098
but how ? i killed everyone expect the crownkiller and still got the low level chaos
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>>380863924
Spotted the underage
>fans: we want new epoch, new characters, new setting wich isn't just a sunny dunwall
>devs: HELL NAW enjoy your established
female characters, who are now empowered and look like ugly butch lesbians and story, which is just a soft retelling of the previous game
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>>380862442
I didn´t buy the second one because I smelled the sjw from a mile
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>>380863698
We don't care. Fuck off back to neogaff
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>>380864372
Learn to read, retard.
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>>380865261
you're loss honestly
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>>380865187
>Evie
>well written
>literally a mary sue who falls in love with a POO
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>>380864559
I like Dishonoreds aesthetic but I know its kind of hit or miss for people.
I can get not liking her character design because you think its ugly, but I can't respect people just shouting WE the second a brown person is in anything. Its basically the neo-v equivalent of screaming trolololol
Like woah racism arent you a modern day Matt and Trey cutting some real boundaries here
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>>380864820
>beyond good and evil
the protag is customizable
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>>380864792
it hurts the setting and story of certain games since those characters don´t fit in
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>>380864815
>abortion
you do know that giygas is based on the creator dramatic experiece rather than that some dumb
fan theory.
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I love Diversity(tm)
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>>380865287
(((You))) have to back.
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>japan
I JUST LIKE GIRLS WOW WHAT A SHOCKER
BASED NIPPON
BARE SEXY FEET IN SOULS GAMES
BASED NIPPON
>americuck
we want le representation of the 52% of population but women are too dumb to make their own AAA games. pls pls Im a fucking white male! pls pls I want to feel good about myself! Im fighting for social justice!
kys western cucks
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>>380865445
source?
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>>380861386
yeah if you can get it to run at more than 30fps
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>>380864331
What are you talking about, Syndicate? I've never heard anyone bitch about Evie other than to say it's obvious she's a shitty shallow character, just like Jacob. And everyone else in Syndicate.
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>>380862509
Men also die far more than women do.
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>>380860050
>listening to customer feedback
those mother fuckers
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>nothing to see here goy!
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>>380865436
i think using billy as a protag is a mistake
she betrayed you the knife dlc
even if she 's a little bit nice with solokov and corvo doesn't means all is forgotten
she is everything but likeable
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>>380863574
No, it's a girl (male)
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>>380864792
It dosnt, but people who don't play the game or are just straight up insecure will scream about their safe space being infiltrated
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>>380865596
Interview with Ancel I believe. The protagonist is customizable, gameplay is open world and planets are randomly generated (think No Man's Sky). So everything's very different from the first game.

The people from the cinematic trailer are supporting characters IIRC.
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>nothing is going on goy!
>its just the progress!
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>>380865705
>Feminists buy video games
Kek
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>>380865187
She wasn't well written at all. She and Jacob suffer from having 2 character traits which define their entire personality. They are both stock "brawn and brains" characters. Not only that but her romance is so hilariously forced and out of place.
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>>380864331
how about if you want more female characters why not make games where they actually fit in and make sense as in non combat heavy games that are set in the past or in fantasy worlds that are heavily based on past events
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The only remotely decent thing in the dishonored franchise was knife of dunwall and even then it's only on the good side of mediocre
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OYYYY VEYYYY SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION!
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>>380865575
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>>380863761
Agree with DS2, but there is literally no difference between fem and male protag in prey. Only your model which you barely even see because it's 1st person shooter
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>>380865353

Eh, I didn't think about it too much. (To be fair syndicate was the only game in the series i haven't -finished- yet) But seeing her trying to do her thing while being annoyed by her brother was something I figured I would see for most of the game after seeing it so much.

>Mary sue

Well in essence all the protags are since they're assassins and such. Even in the presence of those hax eden artifacts
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whats the point of playing as a girl whose smile you dont want to protect
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>>380865594
this is the one good thing about trannies, they fuck with femtard safe spaces
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>>380860050
>a fun game is bad because i hate women

be gay somewhere else
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>>380865813
well still sucks that they felt for the "diversity" meme so that means that 0% of the good guys are going to be white men
then again Ubisoft is a full sjw company so I would have not bought their game anyway.
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>>380865187
If 2B wasn't dressed like a slut Taro would haven ever made a million sales, I dont give a damn how much pseuds want to argue for that ""deep"" story.

The music was good though.
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this is your world now western cucks.
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>>380863924
Girls don't play video games for fun.

And of fucking course there are exceptions, but they are not a demographic lime some activists and also some people in the industry would like you to believe.
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>>380865737
I guess from my perspective that makes her motives and background more complex and she's more established than most of the secondary characters. If not her, I don't know who else besides a completely new character would be a good fit for playing. I'd rather have new moves and a new protagonist than re-hashing an old one, personally. I also don't think a "good" character has to be a likeable one.
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>>380865187
Sorry but people were shitting on AC femal character.

I don't even play AC yet I know that there was a femal mc before Syndicat.
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>>380865124
This anon gets it
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>>380865965
you fancy fags eh?
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>>380864826
>>380865045
It seems to me that they would have needed to do the work anyway if they were going to have two characters with different playstyles
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>>380866128
I fancy weird trannies to femtards, especially TERFs
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>>380863161
Wars, dangerous jobs, a more difficult and stressful life, higher drug use, far higher suicide rates, and a generally more risk-taking lifestyle all contribute to there being slightly less men the higher up you go in age groups
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>>380865938
Really activated my neuron activity
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>>380865940
I meant to say no wasting time on Prey at all
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>a game doesn't just have another generic white guy as a protagonist?
>persecution! reverse racism! white genocide! this is all part of the jewish conspiracy out to get me personally! women aren't underrepresented as protagonists in video games and even if they are I don't care about your stupid "facts"!
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THIS IS THE FUTURE
NO PLACE FOR A NORMAL MAN
YOU'RE A FUCKING CIS MALE!
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>"you have to have female lead in your game"
>ok with that actually.
>wait what? you don't mind?
>no! I love to look at pretty women..that tomb raider...wooo
>They can't be pretty, they have to be ugly!
>wait, fuck you! I ain't paying $60 for that then.
>misogynist!
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>>380865942
>All the protags are
While that's mostly true, at least the other ones had flaws. Sometimes those flaws were shallow, but they had them. Altair was a cunt with an ego, Ezio was a living, breathing ego who took years to temper himself and mature, Connor never thinks for even a god damn second, Edward is a massive selfish prick who ruins everyones lives in a vain attempt to make his better and Haytham is blinded by pride. Shit even Arno, who is essentially Ezio 2.0, had severe loyalty issues that made him into a massive putz.

Evie, you could argue, has the flaw of being "rash" or something. But her brother is the only one ever called out on that. If that's indeed a flaw, nobody ever tries to point it out. She's otherwise almost always right, almost always on point and outclasses her foes. Even the Ripper, for the most part. Who I'm still salty was underused as shit
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>>380865436
Yeah, I never played Dishonored but we go from a cool dude with a robot skeleton mask to some black dyke that look ultra-generic.

It doesn't really work.
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>>380865942
the worst part of Syndicate wasn´t her. it was that the toned down victorian age london to not offened sjws. as in "strong wyman" gang members everywhere and no prostitutes even through they used to be a gameplay element of AC
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>>380865938
kek
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>>380866157
The issue is that you'd need to create a narrative that works with both characters, and they failed.

No surprise because it's more than twice the work, so it ends with the narrative being all over the place and going nowhere, full of inconsistencies and jarring interactions.
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>>380866128
I got nothing against transgender people or people I consider ugly (picture very much related) but boy god damn it do I hate this persons online persona/sense of humor

BUTTS LMAO
I LEAKED IT GUYYYYS I LEEEAAKED IT
ATTENTION HEY PLEASE, HEY
DID I MENTION BUUUUTTS
I HAVE A V A G I N A
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FUCK DRUMPF AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE!
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>>380863924
People do nothing but shoehorn an ideology in instead of writing a good character that is why many western devs fail at making female protags.
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>>380866261
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>>380866026
This is yours, Trumpycuck.
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>>380866392
While that's true, and I believe it to be the case in this situation, I feel like people are starting to dig in and see ideaology where there is none. It's getting tedius.
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>>380866062
hum yeah that's true
will see but looks like daud is alive so he might be the second playable character and i doubt they will just copypaste his power and playing a old and broken guys could be nice gameplay wise
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>>380866326
She's not a lesbian, it's heavily implied she has some romantic connection to the games Da Vinci insert. I will agree though that her design is butt ugly.
Corvo only wears the mask because he's a wanted man and it has some stealth functions. But if you don't play Dishonored why are you concerned with the franchise? The first one is usually pretty cheap, you should give it a go its a lot of fun imo
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DUDE I AM OF SILLY
DRUMPF
MEMES
INTERNET HATE MACHINE
>the state of modern western cuck writing
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>>380865173
Anita is a retard but all I'm getting from OP's image is they made a girl playable. Why does that matter at all? Do you faggots avoid Metroid and (old, pre-reboot) Tomb Raider because you play as girls in them? You fags are the biggest cucks of all.
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>>380866512
Benefit of doubt is something that runs out, and western devs have all but run out of it, same as how gook devs have run out of benefit of doubt when it comes to romance.
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>>380865938
I am physically weaker and I have a strong right wing political stance because I want to keep the rules and laws we have that give proper stability to society. May help matters that I actually studied actual science (Bio: Inb4 Life sciences are shit) rather than the pleb philosophy bullshit.

At least I know the differences between the sexes and genetic predisposition to diseases and conditions compared to those losers who spout platitudes and insisting on denying biological disparity.
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>>380866516
I'm hoping Daud doesn't show up. I love Daud and his actor and all, but I also liked how he responded to being granted a second chance by vanishing into the unknown. I also liked how Billie is willing to travel into the unknown to find him. This is my problem with so many sequels, they ruin these open endings full of mystery and questions to tell you exactly what happened.
>>
What's so bad about making a game you want to? I don't understand why devs cave in so much. Why not be happy and make the game you have dreamed of instead of being scared that some nobody with hoop earrings will criticize you for 5 seconds?
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>>380866261
wasn't this some guys who went drinking and taped their passed out friend there?
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>>380860050
oh christ oh no you can play as a GIRL oh god wtf???
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>>380866583
>Corvo only wears the mask because he's a wanted man and it has some stealth functions
>The moment he shows up the guards start swinging at him

I think it's purely for the stealth function, because everyone wants your head almost immediately. I never particularly understood it, it's not like you are particularly suspicious for wearing a mask in a shitty plague filled city. Only in places like the brothel, maybe. I guess it's the fact that Corvo never ditches his royal protector coat.
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>>380866748
>devs
>dreaming about anything
they only dream about getting some fat tumblrdyke and the communist revolution these days
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>>380860050
Fukc off /pol/ I want to be a cute girl not a smelly geezer (though i don't want to be a black girl ever)
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meanwhile in JAPAN actually strong women
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>>380866516
Right, they could do some interesting stuff with his mobility being tied to his powers potentially. I think they said there isnt a secondary character for it though.
>>380866690
This is why I prefer spiritual successors than sequels from studios. Shit just gets convoluted and they have to keep uping the ante and so things from prior games lose their weight. I mean, this one seems to be about killing the literal Loki ass god of their world for... some reason, so I'm guessing that its them killing off the franchise.
After Prey bombed though I don't know how much more we're gonna see from them.
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>>380866583
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>>380864468
got you senpai
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>>380866779
the DIRTY fucking JEWS have gone too far this time!!!1!!!!
>>
I guess you could say they have Dishonored themselves
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>>380866748
Because games are expensive, if you want to keep making games that you love to make you need money. And sometimes, to get money, you have to do things you don't want to do. It's the reality of making movies and games and whatever else. You can't survive on good will and your own joy forever, especially with larger productions.

This is what people forget, this shit is just a trend. Trends are what developers and movie directors have ALWAYS used to try and generate cash flow.
>>
I can see a lot of D2apologists. Good goys.
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>>380866817
It's so civilians don't recognize him as Covro, why the fuck would he care about the guards who want him as either corvo or his masked self?
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Why is /pol/ so easy to trigger?
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>>380866690
yeah true kinda kills the myth
i think they should have just keep the universe and have completely different story about revenge etc
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>>380860826
Remember, women are 52% of gamers and also a minority.
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>>380866889
the witches are either sluts or lesbian
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>>380866952
There is no way the mask is to hide himself from regular people. First of all everywhere he goes has almost no real civilian presence, second of all the civilians he does meet vocally seem to hate the shit out of the guard, are gangsters who attack Corvo anyway, or are just entirely indifferent to him.
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>>380861621
D R O P P E D
R
O
P
P
E
D
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>>380865938
>>380866261
>>380866358
>>380866683

This is wrong the study stated that stronger man have stronger opinions, left or rights. Leave it to /pol/ to make up bullshit claim about everything.

>>380866583
Yeah but she looks like one. I just find her ugly. and generic, especially compared to Corvo.

I kind of want to buy (or pirate) the first one but i already have a shitload of game to play. I'll certainly do it one day tho.
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>>380860826
>trick or treating in the woods
kek women are so fucking dumb
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>>380866964
>libs
>arent triggered
STOP APPROPRIATING CULTURES
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>>380866657
Do you really think giving in SJW's pressure is a good idea?
What about author's creative vision? SJW's are supressing everything they disagree with
Don't you you know that you can never please these people no matter what you do?
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>>380866927
That makes sense, but how to do they know the people complaining will buy the game after changes are made? Many of these devs and publishers will send the game to these people free anyway to stream. Where is the money coming from? Stock holders?
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>>380866262
Nah, prey > dishonored 2
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>>380866889
>"-and not draw a big sign around a character saying this guy is gay"
I mean this is ideal to real world building. Like or dislike them gay people exist and just live in the world. Arcade Gannon was a great character in New Vegas because he liked dudes but wasnt screaming about it constantly, you found it out by getting to know him like with a real human in real life.
Juxtapose that with Bioware where in an opening monologue a character will tell you that theyre trans / gay and go into full detail like no one ever would ever.
It's just shitty ass writing. Who cares if theres dykes and fags if they're well written.
Also Emily has love letters from some dude in her secret room in the second game.
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>>380860050
>nier changes to a female character in the sequel
BASED PLATINUM
>dishonored gives you the option to play as a female, or you can play as the original character
BOO, SHAME ON YOU ARKANE I HATE THAT YOU DIDNT MAKE THIS GAME EXCLUSIVLY FOR MEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
>>
>/pol/ shit
>250+ replies
Holy shit. What are the mods doing?
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>>380863698
every successful game has a girl someone waifus

checkmate homos
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>>380866964
>everyone who doesn't suck SJW and kike cock is /pol/
>muh /pol/ boogeyman
>don't wanna suicide, self hate, be a cuck
>MUH /POL/ BOOGEYMAN
>THEY TALK BACK, THEY HAVE AN OPINION, THEY QUESTION OUR GENOCIDE OF THEM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>MUH /POL/ BOOGEYMAN
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>>380867180
That's a dude, bro.
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>>380861621
I hope they keep doing this, cutting off their noses to spite their faces.

Glorious.
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>>380867169
You play games with dudes who you don't want to fuck though right?
Like im not trying to be a dick to you, it's just like, do you only want to play a FIRST PERSON game with a character who you want to dick?
Corvo is a more unique and iconic design for sure, but its a bit of a silly and immature reason to avoid a game in my opinion. In the end its just you missing out, and the game might not even be good who knows
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Modern female game protags are gay as fuck. I'd rather have action hero Lara Croft back.
>>
'educated' whites self hate is the root cause of much of this bullshit
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>>380867278
The difference is
>Yoko Taro: I want to make a female protagonist. Make 2B sexy. Make her ass perfect or you're fired. This is what I want.
>Arcane: We didn't really want to make a female protag but FF complained, and we don't want to get in trouble, so I guess we have to now or we'll get called women-haters on the internet by 5 people
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>>380867351
It's their standard tactic these days.

It means you won the argument.
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>>380867351
>>380867207
Why are /pol/fags so easy to trigger?
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>>380867278
>I see a huge discrepancy here
>This isn't me just massively misunderstanding because I'm retarded, clearly the people expressing these views are wrong!
It really is summer.
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>>380866964
nice strawman ms paint comic, definitely fires my neurons
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>>380866964
I AM SILLY
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>>380865070
>>380865070
It's almost like it's bait
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>>380867278
>taro makes female character because he loves sexy girls
>cuck harvey makes female character to please SJWs
Wow that sure was hard to figure, huh
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>>380860050
BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY
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>>380867491
Old Lara actually had great personality and could be considered strong in all senes.
Modern women/niggers in games are just quota fillers.
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>>380867209
It's case by case. In this instance, making a fan favorite character playable, it's not an issue. In other instances, like say adding one of every ethnicity and gender and whatever into a game just to hit all the checkboxes, it's more of a problem. You can't be a drone and just say "it's all okay" or "it's all not okay". Each situation is different.
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>>380867559
lol /pol/fag
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>>380866008
stay mad sjw faggot
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>>380863698

cherrypicked imaging 101
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>>380867792
Uh, so there are still some rare exceptions after all.
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>>380860050

dishonored 2 and prey were good games with solid mechanics wtf are you talking about
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>>380867796
>Say something retarded
>Get called out
>Call people names
You need to be over 18 to post here anon.
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>>380867247
That's kind of the problem marvel has. All the marketing and strategic planning in the world won't save you 100% of the time.
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>>380867471
No, I just prefer playing with aesthetically pleasing characters. If I ever play 2 I know I'm not going to touch the girl campaign for exemple.

It doesn't stop me from playing game I'm interested in ofc but if I'm going to play Dishonored 3, I'll rather play 1 and 2 first. And for that I need to clear my backlog a bit.
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>>380865575
>pot calling the kettle back
NeoFAGS, redditors and The_Donaldfags all should be kicked out from here
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>>380861525
Has she done anything besides deciding that those videos were to much work after all getting all that money?
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>>380866618
>Anonymous users
>Heavy use of reaction faces
>A fucking kapok leaf
>People telling newfags to fuck off when asking for raids

Pretty accurate to be honest.
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>>380861778
Forget Corvo/emily stabbing her, Daud should've made her a godamn pin cushion for the shit she pulled
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>>380867549
Why are nu-males so easily triggered by the /pol/ boogeyman?
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>>380860826
Dude, women are the only group with a true majority on Earth.
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>>380863358
wtf prince is dead?

when did this happened?
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>something resulted in a publisher allotting more money to a project to expand the scope of a game because they wanted to look like they were doing the right thing
>literally gets the game you were going to play more money and adds a fully realised alternate playstyle added to the game
>you're supposed to interpret this as a Bad Thingâ„¢ because you don't like that people asked for female representation in games

who could possibly justify thinking this way
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>>380868275
because some people don't like retards like Anita who shove politics into everything, therefore they must be the /pol/boogeywoman
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>>380860050
Dishonored was great, but 2 was dogshit.
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Why is feminism so shit?
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>>380867786
It's almost like making a fun and memorable character works better than blank slate emotionless robots that just exist to virtue signal.

You know for a group of people that are constantly crying about "male power fantasies" they sure as fuck self insert in a lot of things.
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>>380867285
>muh safespace
>mods help I'm being raped!
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>>380863358
>just found out prince is dead
fucking hell, rip.
>tfw sjws use your likeness to make ugly women
stop pissing on his grave
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>>380868275
Who do you think was responsible for this thread, /pol/fag?

Stay triggered.
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>>380867943
How is it cherry picked? Are you implying females make up a majority of protags? That's obviously nowhere close to being true
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>>380861621
Any word on whether Daud will be playable? Seems to make perfect sense given the setup, and style of the base game.
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>>380868384
Right? Who would do something as retarded as pulling shit out of their ass like "publishers allotted more money to the project so they could appease feminists"

I mean really? Who would suggest something so utterly ridiculous?
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reminder that Dishonored was never good.
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>>380868528
>if someone doesn't like Anita then they must be /pol/
Hehe, yeah. "We're" the triggered ones :^)
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>>380860050
>Arkrane is good dev-
>Nope, not anymore.
You say that like they were before.

Don't you remember that interview where they said their playtesters in the masquerade level wouldn't go upstairs because a guard told them they're not allowed to? And they changed the level?

They've been accommodating retards since the beginning.
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>>380861091
Honestly the game feels like it was made for her but they wanted Corvo in the game so they could experiment with weird new powers without having to be criticized for dropping corvo's
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>>380868423
Good .webm
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>>380864792
I'd rather play as Daud. And this part is silly but I loved it how Corvo wore the mask even though never see it that much in game, and I'm sure here she won't wear her awesome Whaler mask just to show shes black even though she could easily put it on later. Silly I know
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>>380860050
Why are you all such giant whining autismos? Literally who gives a shit about this stuff? Haven't you absolute mongs learned yet that your neet rage just makes the industry want to distance themselves from whatever your demands are? Just shut the fuck up already and stop ruining videogames
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>>380868595
>playable white mail
>in 2017
oy vey
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>>380868423
B-but muh power fantasy.
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>>380868643
>>380868643
>>380868643
>>380868643
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>>380868653
Remember when /v/ only cared about the g a m e p l a y?

Stay triggered.
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>>380868739
>Just bend over :^)
Faggot.
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>>380860050
Small question: What is wrong with adding women in video games?
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>>380868554
>That's obviously nowhere close to being true
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>>380868846
Remember when game devs only cared about the gameplay
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>>380868739
I don't understand why people who apparently have no investment in the argument and can't even fathom why an argument exists to begin with, feel the need to chime in about how little they care.
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>>380868891
Extra work that the budget can't justify.
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>>380868423
Men don't have a history of being sexually objectified as a way to normalize raping them
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>>380862925
>nigger
>can't comprehend what's going on
typical
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>>380863698
The sameface syndrome we are getting in recent videogames with "black girl + afro" isn't any better. At least the examples of your picture aren't the same kind of character anyway, unlike the "stronk sassy woman" one.
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>>380868643
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>>380869030
Someone hasn't heard of the Greeks.
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>>380868846
>implying you care about gameplay
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>>380869030
>Women do though
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>>380869071
Or samurai culture. Or the Romans.
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>>380868739
>be arkane
>make amazing game called Dishonored
>sells like hotcakes worldwide
>shove niggers, lesbians in the sequel
>it sells like shit
>wow guys stop whining you killing videogames!
Literally SJW. Fuck off.
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>>380868846
thankfully we have feminists to shove politics into games, totally about gameplay right?
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>>380868891
>>380868846
It's not just the character, it's a representation of the quality of the devs and their game.

Name one game where the devs hamfisted a female/brown/insertminorityhere MC into in order to appeal to a larger audience which turned out to be a good game.
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>>380865121
>>380863574
>>380864532
Is this a post op?
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>>380868846
>N-No U r da triggered one
I remember when we didn't have cucks like you around :^) Games are shit these days because of SJWs like you. Stay mad that nobody wants you. :^)
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>>380869072
now show the thread(s) where they collectively shit on the order 1886 and david cage games
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>>380869009
I don't understand why people that don't even play video games keep posting /pol/shit on /v/.
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>>380868891
Nothing.

But there's also nothing wrong with making the main character male.
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>>380860826
I know, right? Modern /v/ is filled with pussies who actually throw tantrums about this stuff. Like, who gives a fuck. Grow up.

Not to mention Emily's moveset was objectively better even though Corvo got the better voice actor.
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I FUCKING LOVE VIDEO GAMES
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>>380860050
Further proof that developers the industry virtue standing/signalling are the cancer killing video games. Further reasons to pirate. :)
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>>380869030
>people actually believe this
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>>380868846
No? Even years ago /v/ still picked apart games for one stupid reason or another. Hell the "X developer is shit, and thus the game is shit" argument from now was popular back then as well. I legit don't get why people pretend /v/ was some civilised place where only the true merits of a game were discussed. That's not only factually untrue, it's also easily proven wrong by anyone who was actually there at the time or has fucking screenshots.
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>>380869167
>Name one game where the devs hamfisted a female/brown/insertminorityhere MC into in order to appeal to a larger audience which turned out to be a good game.

Portal.
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>>380868891
Woman in video games isn't the problem. It's forcing women in video games that's the problem. Forcing characters in games is a problem no matter the context.
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Dishonored 2 is better than Dishonored 1. They're both great games. I have the Death of the Outsider pre-ordered.
I don't give a shit about politics.
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>>380867104
I wonder if it was intentional that they were all terrible terrible people
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>>380869316
See >>380869330
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>>380864876
this is what cucks want you to believe

I bought dishonored 1 and didn't even look at 2, seeing this BLACK INDEPENDENT STRONG WIMYN as the face of the new DLC just reminds me of why I did that, fuck spending money on SJW devs
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>give a female character a role that doesn't fit a female character
who started this meme? female protags were always a thing, but before the "progressive" hugbox age they actually had roles that fit them. you can't just slap this shit onto anything
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>>380869072
>a picture from crash the wrath of cortex which was terrible and not naughty dog is included under "then"
inaccuracies such as this make you lose credibility
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>>380869316
I doubt that Chell is hamfisted
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>>380869215
Because the /pol/shit is still about video games. And semantics or not, it's a video game board. It's the same sort of logic that has kept e-celeb threads circulating for the past however long.
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>>380868993
>When Devs cared about gameplay
Where did it all go so wrong?
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>>380869401
>Portal
>Not forced
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>>380869030
RETARD ALERT
RETARD ALERT

next time research before spewing drivel nigger
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>>380869316
not hamfisted. you never see her in game, she could be swapped with a robot anthro dog.
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>>380863698
So? Men are underrepresented as MCs in romance novels.
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>>380869434
>Wrath of Cortex
>terrible
eat shit
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>>380868634
read the source interview.
what do you think extending development amounts to for a publisher exactly.
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>>380869484
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>>380869167
horizon,nier automata,bayonetta,beyond good and evil, prey (2), gravity rush (1+2), metroid series, fighting games in general, portal 1+2
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>>380869316
You forgot the crux of the sentence

>in order to appeal to a larger audience

Portal was never advertised as a female MC. The original box art doesn't even have a female on it, and you're in first person so the player doesn't know their character is female until they get both halves of the portal gun and happen to see themselves through their own portal.
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>>380869030
Sure nigger, sure. This was only during the renaissance. You can go as far back as ancient Rome.
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>>380869517
Found the fag that never played Portal.
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>>380869213
And how would you know about that, fellow gaffer?
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>>380869186
Pretty sure they're still a guy.
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>>380863002
Sounds pretty fucking casual that you'd have to identify with the playable character to enjoy playing the game my friend
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>>380869537
regardless of your shit tastes and opinions is still not naughty dog
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>>380869213
>he has been in those threads
LMAO neofagers are not even hiding anymore. THIS is what /v/ has become
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>>380869167
Horizon, Beyond Good and Evil 2, Last of Us 2, Uncharted Lost Legacy
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>>380869545
>It means whatever is most convenient for my narrative!
Speak of what you know, not of what you wish were true.
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>>380869571
>hamfisted
try again retard. only one there hamfisted is horizon, which is a shit game.
also nuPrey and gravity rush are shit.
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>>380860050
>interviewed by anita sarkeesian

someone needs to execute this cunt pronto, this is getting out of control.

why are devs taking this lunatic so seriously?
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>>380869571
The post didn't say "name good games with female characters in it" anon, try your critical reading skills, I'm sure you're learning those in your 6th grade English class.
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>>380869632
>>380869681

Not an argument. I asked you to post the macro image with them shitting on those cinematic games and you can't follow up. You will be gassed in the next few years.
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>>380865187
If I am going to play a female character, I want her to at least be cute.

I feel disgusted playing a strong independent wimyn, I don't know, its something inside of me that makes me want to puke on games like Horizon.

But playing Nier Automata was cool, 2B and A2 were both really cute.
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>>380869617
>no argument
try again retard
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>>380867351
Really showing how not-triggered you are with all that caps-lock.
Totally not just projecting onto a strawman of the person who got you all bootybothered.
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>>380861525
>being homeless is a direct correlation to your intelligence
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>>380869571
>Metroid
you never even knew that Samus was a girl until the very end in the frist game
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>>380863698

They're not though.
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>>380860050
lol shut up pol
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Ironically Valve shoehorned a Oreo into HL2, and Portal. So that was two forced minorities characters into their games.
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>>380868846
>Remember when /v/ only cared about the g a m e p l a y?
remember when nintendo said we just want people to have fun and redditors and neogafers got triggered? also see >>380867207
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>>380869920
I think that's kinda the point. The fact that she's a woman is literally inconsequential to most of her stories.
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>>380869713
>>>>horizon
>>>>>>>good
>the other 3 haven't even been released and you're claiming they're good
shill pls go
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>>380869807
>>380869754
>>380869920


No, any game with female characters is automatically hamfisted

The "I like well-written minority/female leads!!!!" is a textbook definition of red herring
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>>380869830
>NeoFAG telling others to be gassed
Do you speak that way for your wife's son?
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>>380869807
Realistically, you fags are going to keep moving the goal posts in attempt to define what you mean by a forced female character or not.

Nier Automata is just as forced as Dishonored 2. The difference is that Automata was done to sell to men while Dishonored was trying to sell to women. Both of them are the exact same style and attempt at marketing. Both are forced.
>>
Every creative process has happy accidents and limitations. Dishonored 2 is a better game with Emily than without her.
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>>380864628
Yeah and what else?
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>>380867705
>>380867561
Yeah it's only funny when it's a caricature of a hipster jew or a jew or nigger, lol NIGGER
#momcanttellmewhattopost
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>>380869848
I want this ugly fashion trend for feminists, butch dykes, and lesbians to just stop. And I want them to stop thinking we care about their politics enough for them to force it everywhere.
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>>380869713
>Listing games that haven't even come out
>Listing games which gameplay hasn't even been revealed
Also Horizon's MC isn't the shit that was hamfisted.
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>>380869167
>hamfisted
Do you mean like when Lenni was added into Watch Dogs 2, and the marketers on twitter put extra emphasis on the character?
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>>380869978
CUTE!
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>>380869920
Right, which makes it work. By not giving a fuck what gender your character is. Nintendo was always ahead of the curve, about VIDEO GAMES.
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>>380870037
You have 2 more tries. Follow up with something better

Also
>cuck jokes
Degenerate spotted
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>>380869713

>Name one game where the devs hamfisted a female/brown/insertminorityhere MC into in order to appeal to a larger audience which turned out to be a good game.
>which turned out to be a good game.

I'll laugh so much when the new Uncharted sells 10x less than the last.

Also Horizon would have sold a lot more if it didn't have that fugly bitch as the protagonist, Sony spent tons on marketing, I think they didn't even break even on that title because of the amount they spent on marketing.
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>>380870035
Any game with a human character is automatically hamfisted.
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>>380870021
Oh, you wanted them to be good games and/or released? Sorry, I didn't read all of your post. It was too long. I'll include Andromeda on my list btw.
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>>380860050
>developer makes good games
>not a good developer
Fuck off with your shitposting
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>>380869848
Yeah, its the same as playing an ugly and weak male characters, you feel repulsed putting yourself in his shoes, it just seems wrong.
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>>380870087
>I want this ugly fashion trend for feminists, butch dykes, and lesbians to just stop
poor baby, sorry the meanie women triggered you with their frightening fashion, let mommy make it all better :^)
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Why does /pol/ keep proving to be right? You make it to easy libshits.
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I'm sure somebody else can name better and more recent Female protags but here's a few
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>>380870153
>he calls other degenerates while defending NeoFAG
whatever you say, cuck
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>>380870280
>makes
>last good game was in 2012
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>>380868554
>if you are not 100% of all games ever made it means you are underrepresented.
Yeah you can fuck off
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>>380869738
anon
anon you do know this don't play dumb
a publisher provides money to pay the development of a game.

to extend the development of a game, more money has to be provided.

that's why delays are expensive. It's a straight line connecting those two things. More time == more money allotted

it's literally the function of a publisher anon, I know you really want to feel right but don't lie to yourself. You knew this. There's no way to ignore it.
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>>380870339
once again japan proved to be superior to cuck western shit. RE girls>western sony dykes
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>>380870301
Hehe, nice parody post. I almost believed you were really a cuck :^)
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>>380870310
Common sense is very easy to prove.
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>>380870343
one more try

make this one worth it, Abdu Abimbola
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>>380870310
>totally not /pol/ here, what even is this silly "/pol/" boogeyman you speak of? but /pol/ is always right and the times they were wrong don't count and everything wrong in the world is part of the jewish sjw liberal conspiracy
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>>380869072
>not naughty dog game under naughty dog name
>game with tight gameplay being called a movie
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This is the problem, it's not about anything other than forcing "white men" to see the world through the eyes of blacks or women. Making them role play as women or blacks in the hope it will cuck them down.

Once they found out men objectify women they realized the propaganda wasn't working so they outlawed sexualized or pretty female leads too.

It's politics, it's propaganda.

If it was free it would be less of an issue but these fuckers want AAA money for this propoganda.
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>>380870039
>to define what you mean by a forced female character
I said the character is forced in order to appeal to a larger audience. That's the goalpost and that's going to stay the goalpost.

If you're going to just name games with female characters without any evidence they're hamfisted to appeal to women, such as the article in the OP, then you could just name every single game with a female character in it in existence.
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>I want games to reflect accurate demographics so whites aren't underrepresented and/or replaced with minorities! (Battlefield 1, Dragon Age Inquisition, Broken Age, etc.)
>I want games to not be forced to adhere to real-life demographics so women aren't abundant in a medium they don't even participate in! (Dishonored 2)

Pick one.
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>>380868846
And its still the case. Dishonored both had shitty gameplay and shitty stealth mechanics
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>>380870035
how about my fist between your hams, you fucking cunt
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>>380870310
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>>380870153
Why the hell should I degrade myself so badly by browsing the leftist echochamber shithole you came from?
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>>380869167
Portal, fighting games or games with character creator, prey 2, dishonored 2, walking dead, left4dead, unreal 2, diablo, syberia, horizon, mirror's edge, of the top of my head.

What's the problem with having a female MC? Or even a brown female MC?
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>>380860826
>people get offended at art because it doesn't represent them
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>>380870504
I love the sophisticated GAF humopur as well fellow gaffer
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>>380860050
>game flopped
lmao, the price of pandering to feminsts who don't actually play games
>>
Just skimmed this shitshow of a thread.

Has anyone pointed out that most Black gamers play Japanese games like fighters are JRPGs? Unless you're retarded (which from I witness includes most political minded gamers) you don't need a character as the same gender, race or even species as you to enjoy the game. People are just uppity because of all the anti-white male shit going on and everything seems suspect.
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>>380870584
I can taste your tears libshit.
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>>380870584
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>>380870469
>m-mooommy someone's being mean online! I'm gonna call them a c-cuck until they stop triggering me! if they don't learn their lesson fast I may even have to call them a stupid poopy doodyhead even if it means I have to move a dollar from the tendies jar to the swear jar!
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>>380870621
>>380870592
You had three attempts and failed. The flynn effect is a fucking joke now, isn't it?
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>>380860050
What a shame they didn't put as much effort into making the game run properly as they did into virtue-signalling.
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>>380870723
>>380870584

Who do I trust?
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>>380870507
>>380870584
how the fuck did you think that guy was pretending to be a normal person? he was blatantly /pol/. you are fucking retarded
>>
Only thing worse then /pol/ is SJWs
Your both going to have to live with being garbage
But /pol/ only a little less so then Tumblrshits.
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>>380864328
Why didn't Dishonored 2 do so much worse than 1 then? If the female market demanded a female protag, if they were fans of the previous game, then why didn't they buy Dishonored 2? If SJW are a viable group to market to, how come so many of their projects fail?
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>>380870594
>prey 2
Fucking what? That game that got canceled?
>dishonored 2
>Horizon
>Mirror's edge
Uhm... the games have to also not be shit and feel forced, just so you know.
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>>380870759
The non-cucked one.
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>>380870512
>forcing "white men" to see the world through the eyes of blacks or women
But anon, they hate it when you do this. I watched "Get Out" because it was made by a comedian/actor/writer I respected, and there's literally an extremely uncomfortable scene in the movie where an Asian guy asks a black guy what the African American experience is like and.
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>>380870759
you trust /ourguy/
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>>380869187
Not him but
>games are shit these days because of SJWs
What does that even mean?
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>>380870691
>omg that's NOT FUCKING FUNNY! it's only funny when it's the wacky stupid sjw in a mask!
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>>380870789
/pol/ is less annoying as they are closer to the facts
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https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/14/15801096/dishonored-2-emily-criticism

"That was not our intention" is a pretty bad quote to lead the article with. It's pretty clear this was their own development decision process.
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>>380870512
>>380865816
Meant to reply to this image.
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>>380870745
You're trying too hard :^)
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>>380870869
Fuck off you tool!
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>>380870395
>Dishonored 2 wasn't good
>Dishonored 2 wasn't better than the first Dishonored by a wide mile
>Prey wasn't good

dude memes lmao
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>>380870454
>jills ass in scuba suit
Unnf
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>>380870882
What do you mean
>What does that even mean?
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>>380870964
sorry we all don't eat AAA shit like you do, casual
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>>380870915
>(You)
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>>380870785
What are you talking about stupid paranoid reddit liberal, /pol/ never shitposts outside their board, it's only the evil tumblr reddit invasion that does anything like that!
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>>380870882
It means what it sounds like it means. Don't you remember games actually being good? And when did they start getting shit? Put two and two together my friend.
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>>380863268
Gamers aren't their audience, gamers are over.
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>>380870823
>I said the character is forced in order to appeal to a larger audience. That's the goalpost and that's going to stay the goalpost.

nice job
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Did Dishonor 2 really flop?
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>>380866890
Is that severance?
blade of darkness is nothing like arx fatalis
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>>380870964
D1 was decent.

D2 and prey were both shit and sold accordingly.

D1 sold more than d2 and prey combined.

>"our games aren't selling, time to double down on the sjw bullshit!"
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>>380871041
right now I see a tumblrina shitposting outside their cesspool
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>>380870915
Bush hid the facts
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>>380870953
It's shitposting, the difference of a second or two typing doesn't really matter.
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>>380870964
>prey
>butchered to no end
>most flat arkane game
>good
la-fucking-mao
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>>380870745
We should all enjoy free and non oppressed women with natural body weight. After all, if you like non ugly women then you're just an insecure manchild. :^)
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>>380870802

>Why didn't Dishonored 2 do so much worse than 1 then?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's because the writing in Dishonoured 2 is dreadful.

That, and the fact it's more of the same shit as the first - unless you play as Emily, in which case it's more of the same shit but less enjoyable in every way.
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>>380870594
see >>380870540

Without some kind of evidence to back up those characters are hamfisted, you could just say every single non-white-male character anybody ever made in the history of fiction is hamfisted.

For instance
>portal
A game where the main character was never revealed or focused on before the game released, where the character isn't even on the box art, where the character doesn't have any lines, and you can play through the game without ever seeing the character's model closely enough to find out it's a female unless you specifically set up a portal to see yourself up close.

That's hamfisted to you?
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>>380870828
But, they're both cucks.
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>>380864902
Not what that anon meant. Applying the percentages to population statistics and see which group is largest. That 7% of whites will outnumber all the others
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>>380871102

yes.prey and deus ex md also flopped, mostly because those genres (immersive sim) arent popular with the mainstream
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Why are /pol/fags so easy to trigger?
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>>380871184
>you could just say every single non-white-male character anybody ever made in the history of fiction is hamfisted
Duh.
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>>380871129
>D2 and prey were both shit and sold accordingly.
it's beautiful, really. make garbage games, get garbage sales. At least there's some justice in this industry occasionally. Now if only the rest of Bethesda trash would sell poorly.
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>>380860050
>Criticism about female characters usually being shallow or just being "stronk independent womyn"
>So lets make an actually good female protag
I don't see the problem
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>>380870454
>>380870339
I mean the Western "women" on that (except Max, and that only semi counts because the dev is French) are butt ugly. Literally the facial physique of the ass from a middle aged couch potato.
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>>380871076
You still haven't your explanation of using Prey 2 as an example
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>>380870823
Mirror's Edge was good
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>>380863698
Not really. This game is from 2003
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>>380871275
Because the only thing easier to trigger are SJcucks
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>>380871274
sure they are, it's just that those games are shit. and sjw shit too
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>>380870823
>That game that got canceled
You know very well I'm taling about PREY.
>the games have to also not be shit and feel forced, just so you know.
But Mirror's Edge is a timeless masterpiece, not the second one of course, Dishonored 2 is amazing and I'd like to know what makes you think it's bad, as for Horizon, I have not played it, but pretty much everyone from reviewers and players seem to agree it's an extremely solid game, not masterpiece tier, but a really solid 8/10, which is very good.
>inb4 this doesn't matter and the game is objectively shit because I don't like it
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>>380871275
Were fucking NOT!
You're the one who's triggered!
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>>380871358
No it wasn't
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>>380871309
>except Max, and that only semi counts because the dev is French
she looks like shes on meth or smth. also no ass and no hips, no thighs and no tits. I know french are fags but this is too much
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>>380871358
Mirror's Edge 2, not so much
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>>380871382
>deus ex md
>dishonored 2
>shit

i haven't played prey so i wont comment on its quality, but relying on memes doesn't help your case here
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>>380870512
Yeah that's why most people, boys and girls, play night elves and blood elves and not trolls

>>380865816
This is so fucking bad
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>>380871421
Do you guys know how to make an argument that isn't just strawmen and falseflagging?
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>>380871282
Even if you actually believe that they're all hamfisted, you're forgetting the second part of that: they're hamfisted specifically for market appeal to a larger audience, which can't be the case with portal since Chel was never marketed in the beginning. It was basically like Metroid where you already had to have the game and actually play it to even find out there's a female in the game.
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>>380871529
>>deus ex md
deus ex md flopped and is shit. square killed deus ex franchise because of it. deus ex md is a console garbage created for dumb people like DSP, nowhere near the original.
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>>380871493

That mostly has to do with the fact that they made it open world and open world ME defeats the entire point of the game.
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>>380871275
>desperately types one sentence over and over again
>i-it's y-y-you who are t-triggered!
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>>380871395
>But Mirror's Edge is a timeless masterpiece
The running is stiff and shit and the story and setting are boring. I honestly cannot think of a good thing about it besides pretty looking graphics that got downgraded in the reboot
>Dishonored 2
Has the exact same problems as the first game, and the first game was overrated shit by people who never played a stealth game before
>Horizon
Shit game only given attention because of graphics and it's stronk female protagonist. And I've played it. Almost immediately returned it.
>inb4 this doesn't matter and the game is objectively shit because I don't like it
Pointing out the criticism doesn't negate the criticism
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>>380871679
>i haven't played a single deus ex game in my life lolololololol

this is what i got when i ran it through google's "retard" translator
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>>380871479
Dude, are you smoking crack right now. Max looks cute and normal. Almost too normal in a good way in this fucked day and age
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>>380871529
t. started playing games last gen shiteater
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>>380871534
>night elves
>not trolls
There are about the same amount of trolls as night elves on my server
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>>380871780
lmao I played them all, even HR is better. Im glad deus ex is dead because faggots like you can't casualize it even further.
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>>380871602
>why are you such a fag
>YOU'RE a fag
>WOW nice argument there you didn't even disprove me I bring all these hard hitting facts and perfectly sound logical proof and you DARE to just sit there and NOT type up a paragraph in response?
Go back to wherever you came from.
>>
Seeing the libtards n these threads recently scramble to try and defend the brainwashing, and failing is hilarious.
>>
>>380871745
These leftists don't even know why "triggered" is a term. It was created because of SJWs claiming they had ptsd from being objectified or some really stupid and retarded shit. It was a term that mocked them for their comfortable life in which they have no touch of reality.
>>
>>380871129
>>380871284
If you people honestly think Dishonored 2 is "garbage", I'd actually love to see you people argue that.

I bet the only things you could muster up are muh pc port (which is now fixed) and muh emily (which is completely optional to play as)

If you think Dishonored 2 is garbage, you have never played an actually bad game in your entire life.
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>>380871780
this. HR and MD fans have never played DX, they're underage.
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>>380871602
>exclamation mark
>not falseflagging
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>>380871830
>body of a boy
the french are a bunch of pedos. this is a woman.
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>>380871830
That "game" is fucking horrid. I can';t believe its getting a sequel. Tumbtards sure like eating shit.
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>>380871048
But there has always been some good stuff, and some horrible stuff, just like now, we have bad games, and fucking amazing ones. Shit games weren't invented recently you know.

Games weren't all 10/10 and suddenly became bad. And to be honest, there used to be 10 times more bad games than good before, simply because it was easier and cheaper to develop and publish, so everyone could shit out games with less quality control. That and also nostalgia. Older generations were bitching about the games of our generation just like we're bitching about modern games.
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>>380870594
>games with character creator
I don't think you understood the post
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>>380872065
only underage fags love console trash like MD and HR
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>>380872029
Shh, you might actually triggered a few of the MODs right now.
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>>380870620
one on the right it cuter desu
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>>380869425
what a great board we have for discussing video games
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>>380871939
5th gen*
>>380871993
>im happy deus ex is dead
go back to jerking off over uncharted, human trash
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>>380872065
and a DX fan would never play HR or MD
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>>380871048
So glad I avoided this generation of vidya. I think Nintendo might be the only platform left without getting propaganda shoved down my throat.
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>>380872031

>If you people honestly think Dishonored 2 is "garbage", I'd actually love to see you people argue that.

I don't think it's garbage but I also don't think it's particularly great either.

My main complaint is that the writing is just terrible. The main plot has the thinnest premise imaginable and both characters spew cringeworthy, meaningless dialogue throughout the entire game.

The game is ugly, runs like trash on PC and Emily is just a boring version of Corvo. Oh, and the collectable spam is irritating as hell.
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>>380872412
so you cant read? Lmao no wonder you liked MD
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>>380870748
nice damage control
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>>380871319
I'm not that anon though, retard, stop being inconsistent. Anyway, thanks for proving you're not trustworthy.
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>>380872236
>less quality control
In a world where a Triple A game like Andromeda can be released in the condition it's in that argument loses all weight. It's less quality control now than there ever was, and I played video games for nearly my entire life. I was there for the dreamcast and Sonic Adventure. I've kept almost every game I've ever gotten so looking at the shelf right now from earlier games I can tell you flat out that games have gotten much shittier in recent years. No, I'm certain of this change. Your view is optimistic but incorrect.
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>>380863761
Prey is fantastic and you're fucking retarded, all playing as a woman does is change the VA.
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>>380872180
The gameplay is secondary to the story. You can now throw an autistic shitfit about story-driven games, but that is just how it is. It was more of a story than a hardcore game. Though I found the gameplay was absolutely essential as a narrative element, because could you in a film e.g. try to constantly rewind time and freeze it that way, essentially breaking the very game mechanic rule up to that point that you can only rewind for a short period, to highlight your desperation because your friend is about to commit suicide?
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>>380872430
>the game is fun
>if it’s not fun, why bother?
I'm not even a nintendofag, but Reggie is based
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>>380872586
>I'm not that anon though
Want to hear a secret? I'm not the original anon who asked for examples :^)
>thanks for proving you're not trustworthy
What did he mean by this?
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>>380872702
It's a choose your own adventure book in video game form.
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>>380872659
Prey is worst arkane game. Fuck off already you consolepleb
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>>380872487
dont forget
>small amount of abilites
>only 9 levels
>no big interesting hub like pub in the first game
>shitty endings, small variations
>small variety of enemies, striders are gone, seekers don't have boom boxes anymore.
>billy lurk is a shit character and Sam is much better
>sokolov is a tired old man all fun banter is gone
>emily is a boring character even daud is miles better
>no creepy characters like child eating granny
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>>380872494

your reason for wanting deus ex to be dead is dsp-tier retarded and lacks understanding of what sets deus ex 3/4 apart from modern trash

the first game is indisputably the best, nobody here is arguing against that here btw
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>>380867207
This is what grinds my gears.
People pushing this shit onwards are just holier than thou whites.
>inb4 Jews
Whites. Lots of whites do it.
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