Not even death can save you from me

Anyone who buys remastered games should be fucking hanged.

how about they make a new diablo that isnt shit like 3?

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>>380848729
>heh we admit we cant make shit for games anymore so buy these old games again goys

>>380848825

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziUMJB3id8I

Educate yourself.

Of course, why spend actual time and effort to make new games, why not just remaster/remake the older ones. You know that the Blizzdrones will cream their pants and buy them anyway.

>>380848729
>Old guard makes great games
>New plebs cant do anything right
>proceed to recreate old games because they dont understand how to make a good new game
Like pottery

>>380848729
we've known this since last year you dumb kotaku reading faggots

>>380848963
I'm not sure I understand what the fuck your point is. Rereleasing the same fucking game but prettier is the most disgusting cashgrab cancer.

>>380848729
Know what can? Boredom over fighting the same fucking bosses and enemies over and over again. With no measurable end goal in sight save for beating the same fucking bosses and enemies over and over again.

Diablo 2 groomed me to hate it and anything like it.

>>380849171
BUT DUDE YOU CAN GET EPIC SICK LOOT WITH +1 IN EVERYTHING COMPARED TO THE SHIT YOU GOT THE LAST TIME!! AND ITS ANOTHER COLOUR THIS TIME!!!!! SOOOO FUCKING EPIC AND FUN MY MAN WHY DO YOU HATE IT ITS SO FUN JUST CLICKING AT THE SAME ENEMIES OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND BEATING THE SAME BOSSES

>>380848963
That video is shitting on remasters you know.

>>380849053
But Diablo 2 was absolute turd of a game. Except for having extraordinary production values for PC game of the time, literally no game mechanic worked as supposed to and still doesn't work after 9000 patches.

As long as Blizzard games are not available on Steam they might as well not exist for me.

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>>380848729
They will fuck it up.

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>>380849154
how about rereleasing literally the same game but worse
also applies to asscreed 2 and skyrim """remasters"""

>>380850989
Blizzard North already did it for them. In 2000.

>>380850572
Name one.

>>380848825
>tfw you will never be such an embittered autistic manlet that you care about people enjoying remasters.

>>380851176
No you. Name a single game mechanic which is realized better in D2 than in every single other diablo clone. Diablo 2 literally failed at everything except CGI cutscenes and UI.

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>>380848729

A part of me doesn't mind and is happy that an old classic gets a new coat of paint.

Another part of me can't avoid to notice that Blizzard is remastering pretty much all of their old libraries lately (and I'll admit, we are talking about just two games, but it's 2 out of 3).

And yet another part of me is pretty asspained because WHERE THE FUCK IS MY WARCRAFT III REMASTER!? YOU FUCKERS!

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How about The Lost Vikings remaster with high res art like Rayman Origins?

>>380851091
The Ezio trilogy shit was a meme. It's a strict port, glitches and all. It didn't fuck up shit up like Bamham, but it didn't fix anything either.

>>380851415
>Being an illiterate retardo.
Look at the op pic dumdum, wc3 is in the works

>>380851565
>movement speed literally tied to framerate
yeah it sure didn't break anything

>>380848825
Depends on how old the game is

Remasterd version of Starcraft and age of empires? Fine
Remasterd version Shadow of the colossuses? Not fine

>>380851725
Keep us informed mr. Autismo

>>380851725
No, they work fine.

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>>380851415
Well for D2 they would need to change the gameplay a lot. But if they just refine the graphics, and allow higher resolution and place easy to see hotkeys, I'm okay.

The resolution is the biggest problem, the mods dont really fix it, they just make the screen really large, instead of making the same ratio but more detailed characters.

I dont care if theyre remaster i just want there to be a decent sized d2 and w3 community

I never got into Diablo II, since at that time I didn't have internet and didn't meet anyone who could advice me to play it. Instead, I had that russian diablo clone, Dawn of Magic. It was fun game, and I played it vigorously for insane amount of time, but after that, I got completely burned out of genre. I tried PoE, Diablo II, TQ, but neither game managed to catch my attention in same way. Even when I tried to get back to Dawn of Magic, I couldn't force myself to play it. I wonder if other people feel same about their first diablo-clones and following attempts to get into other games like that.

>>380848729
Great shitzzard is realised that diablo 3 is shit. This is first small step to redeem themself. Maybe another 15 years and they will do diablo 1 already

>>380851387
Do you understand why they're called Diablo-clones?

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>>380852425
Diablo clones are games that copie the formula of Diablo.

That does not mean that Diablo 1 or Diablo 2 are excellent games. It just mean that the game mechanics were copied.

World of Starcraft WHEN

>>380852425
Because they attempted to recreate Diablo 1 which was actually good, unlike D2

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>>380851568
I won't make any excuses, have a (you) for pointing my idiocy.


>>380851725
I disagree, but only because you list SoC as something that's too new to be remastered (it isn't).

TLoU and GTAV remasters? Now that's something that feels pretty pointless.

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>>380852797
The problem is that Shadow of the Collosus was just released in a Remaster 3-4 years ago.

>>380852538
d2 has the best skill system out of almost all arpgs except for like titan quest, which is practically the same

they also had the best atmosphere that no other arpgs has even come close to recreating

the d2 loot system wasn't complete dogshit farming entire levels of trash monsters in the hopes you get one random fucking item with the stats rolled right, it was boss farming for uniques that weren't randomised stat bollocks

the gear actually mattered as it was focused around +skills instead of just lol here have some more of a stat that we'll just make affect all your damage anyway for no reason

>>380848729
This and the AoE 1 remaster I'm unironically really excited for
Never got into d3, I still replay d2 on a yearly basis

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>>380852013
Resolution and UI updates would be great.
Specifically larger inventory so we dont have to fuck around with mulling as much, and a charms only inventory so your main inventory isnt cluttered.
Path of Diablo did it nicely, they give you another inventory under your main one and charms only work in there allowing you to have easier time juggling and identifying gear and bringing more potions with you.

>>380848729
eh.. but in diablo 2 I only really liked then first level and Tritram revisited. The rest of the game was too sun lit and not really creepy.

>>380852927
>d2 has the best skill system out of almost all arpgs
No it's complete shit it locks players into using same 2 skills until he goes mad. They attempted to improve skill diversity with synergy system and fucked up even more.

>they also had the best atmosphere
Debatable. Atmosphere is definitely there for 1st playthrough, but randomized completely bland maps reliably kill it quick.

>it was boss farming for uniques that weren't randomised stat bollocks
It's not how you get runewords which are the real endgame content. And rune farming method was just one massive pile of shit.

>instead of just lol here have some more of a stat that we'll just make affect all your damage anyway for no reason
But it's exactly how +skill system works

my guess this will just be like the starcraft remaster they are doing, not touching the gameplay at all, bugs glitches and all. and just porting them to run on windows 10 with a graphix overhaul.

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> Median XL for d2 remaster.
inb4 no mods

>>380853237
what they actually need to do is just stop fucking up plugy functionality with every fucking update

>>380853414
Wasnt d2's character screen completely fucked showing incorrect information? They should probably fix that at least

boskeletonrp

>>380848729
Great, nuBlizzard isn't content with raping ips with new games, now they are raping old classics as well.

>>380848729
>dividing the community of an already perfect game
i hate nu blizzard so much

remaster a shit. people are going to load it up, start playing and realize just how dated the combat feels, before closing out and deciding to just play d3 or poe.

a d2 remake would be a hell of a lot better. updated the combat, add more runewords and unique items, add a new act and improve the visuals.

>>380848729
YOU MEAN

THEY GONNA REMOVE THE ABILITY TO PLAY THE ORIGINAL DIABLO 2 COMPLETELY? IN ORDER TO MAKE ROOM

FOR DIS?

REE

/s

>>380851415
>Warcraft III
WC3 was what ruined the series. Warcraft 2: Battlechest was the last real WC game.
You are fucking cancer. Fuck off and die.

What's up with remasters and shit lately? I'm fine with it if they actually improve the game but what's with the surge?

Is it because of the Crash Bandicoot remaster?

>>380854448
probably Blizzard probing if those old games were actually better or it's just nostalgic shitposting
also easy money

>lets kill a completely alive game to make some dosh
fuck blizzard
inb4 people dont remember "diablo 3 applications for console" 2 years before the game launched

>>380848729
but will it be free like Starcraft Brood War

>>380849154
>cashgrab
>17 year old game

What did he mean by this? I have no problem with it as long as they keep the gameplay exactly the same. I would prefer they did it with Diablo 1 first though. You can hardly even run it anymore. It's in that weird space of Windows 95 games. You can't use DOS-Box for it since it isn't a DOS game.

reminder that D2:LOD supports resolutions up to 800x600

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>>380855380

and that's almost half a megapixel

Starcraft remaster looks like shit thanks to the awful nu-Blizzard art team. Diablo 2 will look just as bad.

Literally never buy another Blizzard product ever again.

>>380848729
I don't really want a D2 remaster. It's a deeply flawed game in its core mechanics and engine.

Path of Exile 3.0 soon

>>380851725
Shadow of the Colossus is a remake, made from the ground up like the Crash Bandicoot remake

>>380855503
What the hell is up with remasters that look worse? Deus Ex HR was taken off the stor for Director's Cut with overall worse assets. Batman games were re-released with shittier models. New Sleeping Dogs and Bioshock look worse as well. And the less said about HoM&M3 remaster, the better.

>>380852924
Six actually.

>>380855660
Lazy jew companies make lazy jew remasters.

>>380852927
>d2 has the best skill system out of almost all arpgs

90% of the skills in D2 are complete unusable garbage, 1% of them are so blatantly OP they make the 9% left obsolete.

PoE skills system is the best there is. It's not even close.

>>380855660

turns out that producing high-quality assets, even (especially) low-res rasters, is fucking difficult and you can't just outsource it to some art student

>>380855660

Companies know remasters and HD versions sell, and change things for the sake of changing them.

>>380855769
you're either bad or never played the game. People have completed the game with every skill build on /player 8 hell mode. Someone said on d2jsp that no one could beat hell with a bow barb on hardcore /player 8 and then someone did it just to show him any build is viable

>>380856006
Doesn't mean shit. There are couple of builds viable for solo play in hell without insane grind.

>>380856006
kek of course you can complete the game with any skill you desperate fuck, it's a fucking arpg, you could complete it with no skill at all if you had enough time to waste. This doesn't change anything to the fact that the vast majority of the skills in D2 are complete garbage and not viable for a proper D2 character with a decent clear speed

>>380856006
being able to beat the game with them doesn't mean they're good, efficient, or fun to use.

>>380854117
Don't even joke about jewery like this.

I don't care how goofy it looks, if they can rejuvenate D2 and actually start supporting it again with new content I would be all for it

>>380856426
>Every game needs to be "updated" forever even if that means it's a rotting carcass on life support

>>380851387
>No you
Seriously nigger?

>>380848729
>sc,wc3,diablo2

WoW when?

>>380856273
>>380856254
Well the only thing you do is either magic find or sit in a baal room. For magic finding there are spot that are good for almost any skill. Nilthak, shenk, lower kurast are all easy spot that any character can clear fast even if naked, the merc alone can clear the game quite fast, so just use any skill that you like. Want to use hydra? there's plenty of places with no fire resists monsters that you can magic find.

>>380856426
The only "updates" it will get is HD textures, lockboxes, MMO mechanics, pop-culture references and interracial bisexual couples.

>>380852261
I never played any diablo before, them some friends introduced diablo 2 for me way later its prime. didn't like how dark it was and isometric motion gave me sickness. some say it was what made it diablo but yeah, opinions. bought diablo 3 on release and it was too bright, so they were right about it. but camera zoom was nice addition.

>we're restoring them to their former glory

what did neo blizzard mean by this?

>>380856637
>isometric motion gave me sickness
How in the world do you get motion sickness from something that's not in first person?

>>380851725
SotC ran like SHIT. Remastering is exactly what it needed, PS3 version is the definitive version of the game.

However you are likely talking about the remake, which is legitimately baffling.

>>380848825
While normally i agree ill give WC3 a pass if it brings life to custom games again

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Why would I want a D2 remake when PoE already exists?

But why? Just make patch that enable bigger resolution and call it a day.

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>>380852527
>diablo 3
>good

kys retard

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>>380857083
What is multires

>>380856591
hopefully never, wow was a mistake and the downfall of blizzard

>>380857047
muh nostalgia!

>>380857083
diablo 2 actually has odd interactions if you just increase the resolution, its why the resolution mod is ban worthy if you use it online

this is probably a reason why its being remastered, for the standard sprite update but also to make it way easier to play on modern machines without it looking like shit or having a terrible resolution restriction

if you are curious to what a modern resolution does to the game as it is now, it mostly makes it so you can see every pack that would normally be off screen at the original resolutions, but they just stand around doing nothing because enemies don't engage til you get on screen with them

>>380857443
also dont forget that some skills are simply based on where you can click, like blizzard, and so you can nuke packs that wont even react to you

>>380853237
>Specifically larger inventory so we dont have to fuck around with mulling as much, and a charms only inventory so your main inventory isnt cluttered.

Better yet, they should make the inventory stretch infinitely with every item you pick up, so you can keep every resistance charm you find and never have to worry about dying again

>>380857047
PoE might have a similar atmosphere but I don't like the way the passive system works. For me Diablos skillsystem is pretty much perfect, easy to acces and the use of synergies or Itembased skills still give it enough depth. But thats just my opinion on it.

>>380848729
what, like the 'enhanced' editions of baldurs gate?

I SC:R is anything to go by it will be highres reskin with some modern networking shit going on and crossplayable with the old game.

>>380856006
>People have completed the game with every skill build on /player 8 hell mode.
bullshit. it isn't practical without hundreds of hours of grinding

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>got to Ba'al as polearm-Barbarian
>couldn't beat his superbeasts and gave up

Still haven't finished it to this day

>>380858404
Feel the same.
Also, just imagine if in D3 we got a skill tree instead, and all the rune stuff to tweak the skills (usually just some +/- projectile and change of color/elements) were put on items, and so you have some proper itemization to customize your kills. Now that wouldn't have been so bad .

>>380848729
It's not happening, it would be nearly impossible to recreate this game with new technologies and everything is going to look like shit in the end. It's going to be a completely different game.
There is amazing interview with diablo2 developer, lots of interesting stuff.
https://youtu.be/Fuus5PLMdIQ?t=3m12s

Diablo 2 skillsystem was good before synergies. After synergies it's fucking awful dogshit.

Diablo 1 still has the best skill system for spellcasters, I'd like a diabloclone where wizards learn spells from books and martials use skilltrees.

>>380849154
Some of us actually enjoy running dated games with one click instead of using shitty fanmade mods and tweaks.

>>380858816
Yeah, you retards.

>>380848729
Too late, blizzard is shit they will fuck up somehow. Not falling for blizzard never again.

>>380858587
Yea thats my biggest concern with D3, i could overlook a bad story or look but the skillsystem and itemsystem are just way to primitive. I always loved to say "Ok im gonna start a WW-Barb, thats why i need these Skills and those Items to make it work", even before 1.13 where you couldn't reskill characters it was fun because you really needed to think about a build before you played so you didn't put points into the wrong skills. In D3 it's just not the same.

>>380858735
Synergies made it even better for me, but they didn't balance it out, so today some builds are way to overpowered like Hammerdins and others lack alot.

>>380858071
Are you being stupid on purpose? Just playing dumb?
The amount of charms you can carry/use hasn't changed, they don't work in any other inventory except that bottom one.
What do you have against small quality of life changes, do you hate them so much that you compare it straight up to cheating?

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>tfw no Warcraft 1+2 remaster in the new engine they will use to remaster Warcraft 3

>don't pay for this product even if you think you'll enjoy it because it's too similar to something that has been done before REEEEEEEE

>>380860491
btfo!
Warcraft 4 hype master race.

>>380852527
You retard, there is a genres for them:

>action role playing game
>hack and slash

Or do you call every fucking fps a wolfenstein3d-like?

test

>>380853338
You are definitely right Diablo 1 had way better atmosphere (Considering I was like 12 when I played it, it was actually scary).

>>380851387
i cannot believe i sit here with retards like that

>>380860369
>The amount of charms you can carry/use hasn't changed

You're delusional. You literally have more charms in your inventory than someone who's playing legitimately and who has to leave space for new items.

I've got nothing against you modding the game to be easier if that's what you need, but why stop there and not just give yourself the ability to teleport as a "quality of life" change for faster looting?

Who needs new games when you can just rehash your old ones? Brilliant, I love gaming!

>>380861435
>Or do you call every fucking fps a wolfenstein3d-like?
I don't, but they in fact are.

>>380858653
The amount of assets in D2 is a lot higher than in Starcraft while the current popularity is lower.
In my opinion there's not a lot of possible profit to have for spending at least twice the amount of time on remastering D2 as remastering SC1 took.
Blizzard's best strategy would be to add new 16:9 display options with modest upscaling, update support for modern operating systems and release as a simple update.
Warcraft 3 also needs just that.

>>380848729
Diablo 1 is better

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>>380848729

>SC Remastered
>D2 Rehamstered
>WC3 Remastered

I mean it's nice that they're doing this since these are all great games that I enjoyed, but what about making an actual succesor that surpasses the previous games?

What does it say about the state of the gaming industry when the best and most exciting thing a company can put forward is a remake of something great they did almost 20 years ago?

>>380848825
>blizzard has had battle chests on shelves for around a decade
>decide to upgrade the games to work and look better on modern machines

Blizzards biggest sin is their lack of new content both for their existing ips and creating any new ones outside of Overwatch. Their classic backlog is non-existent outside of Vikings and Blackthorn. I think they still own the rights to Metal Arms but they never did anything with it.

>>380862003
>walking

>>380848825
>remasters and remakes are somehow immune to piracy

>>380861435
Pretty much all FPSs from before Goldeneye were Doom Clones, yeah. Clones and "-like" are a way to describe a game easily.

For example, Borderland is a Diablo like game. But not all ARPGs are diablo like.

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Where did it all went so wrong?

>>380860491
There's nothing to remaster.

>>380848729
Can they make it so your characters don't get auto fucking deleted already? thanks

>>380862212
people started wearing pants that fit better.

>>380861780
>adding what I call room to carry a couple of bonus charms is the same as adding room to carry infinite more charms
>if you disagree you're delusional
ok

>>380848729
Dont get your hopes up. It will be just a D3 DLC with 1 level that is called "Chaos Sanctuary" and has a shitfilter and the same assets as D3. Please buy, only 34.99$

>>380848825
dude those games are more than 15 year old, let the younger generations have fun, you aren't the metric for an industry aimed at the 10-16 demographics

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>>380862453

M8 Fuck off. They look fashion as fuck. Better than you'll ever look. Getta outta my face GOOBER.

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>All this underage b& crying that D2 is bad
>Too young to realize old games become outdated overtime
>Too full of daddy's cum to realize all the successors that are better were entirely inspired by D2

Also, obligatory picture

>>380862480
Where do you draw the line between a "couple" of cheaty items and too much cheating?

>>380862676
If you wasn't underage yourself, you would know that Diablo 2 raised lots of brows with it's lack of improvement over Diablo 1 back then.

what a waste of time

same game with all the same mistakes in it, hinderances, no advancement, no refinement, just a copy

the art took them a long time to do too, it was one of the biggest bottlenecks for them as far as i know. see the subtle changes in art between acts

>>380862826
>Not making a genuine point and just rambling about how D1 is just as good

??

The Ys series from Nihon Falcom is one of the few series that has actually good remakes

>>380862894
They didn't even have design doc back then, they just relatively polished Act I because it was going into demo and shat out the remaining 3 acts.

>>380850171
Shitting on shitty remasters.
Praising good ones.

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>>380862026
>making an actual succesor that surpasses the previous games

>>380862991
Dude, fucking Gothic 1 released in 2001. That's one year difference between fully 3d game with still decent graphics and shoddy poorly animated pixelated sprites of D2

>>380849154
>he like super mario all stars
>he didnt get to enjoy mario 3 in the best graffix
>he doesnt want older games to run at modern resolutions without modifications
>he doesnt want a revived online community

Some games should be remade.
Problem is companies are remaking all the wrong ones.

>>380855617
>made from the ground

The best way to put it since it's probably being made by some undocumented monkey in dark basement.

>>380863035
Wonder Trap: Dragon's boy.

>>380848954
What is hearthstone, what is overwatch

>>380863487
shit games for retards

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>>380863441

>>380863487
those are your example to refute the guy? really? those?

>>380863226
Yeah, that was a point back then because 3D was the hot shit. Nowadays you'd have to be insane to claim Gothic 1 holds up better than Diablo 2.

>>380862701
it's a mod you dumb dumb, and i assume it's balanced for the charm window

The only good remasters are the ones, that lets you play a game thats otherwise incompatible with win 7 or higher, everything else is objectively a cash grab.

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>>380863218

Do you think it's impossibe to make a better game than SC/D2/WC3?

They are great games, but a talented group of people could certainly built upon them and make an even better game.

Now, whether modern day Blizzard would get the job done is another question, but they certainly have the ressources at hand to hire top talents if they wanted to.

>>380848729
shouldn't technically a sequel be kind of a remaster?

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>>380863226
Darkstone got released in 1998 and graphics wise it stands very good.

>>380851725

Hah yeah sure if you buy da videygaem I approve, u ok
but if you buy not approve, you hang by neck it's all gucci please take me seriously :^^)

>>380863642
it does tho
on literally every single regard

>>380862701

um no sweaty ;)

>>380863827
Yes. That's why many people's reaction was WTF blizzard.

Then most companies abandon the PC and Blizzard remained the king of uncontested hill. It then blizzard quality meme was born. Back in 90-s it was just a good, but typical company. Bungie did much more impressive PC stuff like Myth.

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>>380848729
Will look like half assed cartoony shit.
Still day one buy.

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I would buy the shit out of a remastered Battle Realms at least.
I emailed the current CEO about getting Battle Realms onto Steam since GOG is awful and he said they were already in the process of getting it approved.

>>380861435
They were called Doomclones young anon, Doomclones.

>>380864276
Reminder that RTS fans are so retarded they will ignore it again and keep shouting about EA devil.

I'm excited for the median xl mod for this remaster

>>380852013

That's because it's a 2D game you fucking idiot.

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>Not playing the superior game

>>380865858
Throne of Darkness is shit

>>380848963
Amazing. I never realized resident evil 2 was complete shit because it's old and only the remake will be able to make it good

>>380863226
Gothic in 2001 ran like shit on 2001 hardware.
blizzard always targetted low hardware to sell the most.
D2 also looked great in 720p cathodic screen. Put things in context

>>380866420
>Gothic 1

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>>380857032
>if it brings life to custom games again
It won't.

>>380858816
yeah but that makes you a faggot

>>380848729
>warcraft 3
Its just going to be HotS isnt it

>>380863827
What a fucking fun dungeon crawler that was actually. I might reinstall that actually.

>>380848729
Was really hoping for a Warcraft 2 remake... but of course the modern day retards at Blizzard had to come out and say "we played those old ones and they weren't fun any more" fuck them

>>380863782
Do you think SC2 was a good successor to SC1? The online was only fun if you were good at massing out a killer blob of one OP unit.

>>380870813
wrong?

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I hope they don't touch the writing

I don't want Baal telling you his plans during Act 2

>You may have got my Amulet of the Viper Nephalem, but you will never get my Horadric staff

>>380871230
Blizzard will definitely spice up the writing to correct their past mistakes and make the plot more in line with Deeblo 3.

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>>380871324