Hows it gonna be?

I like the shift to a STALKER-like world layout, but it looks like there's going to be excessive dialogue and character interaction that undermines any feeling of isolation. I don't have that much hope for it, really.

Look good, play good. It's the episode 3 we've been waiting for a decade

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4k

>>380847443
its not exclusive, hell Playstation even uploaded a trailer for it on their official youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTJKH1-_sE

>>380847461
Have you played the other two? As long as it keeps the interactions the same as them it will be fine.

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It is gonna be gorgeous

>>380847538

Only played the first, but the dialogue did feel too abundant at times. Characters didn't feel like they had the same kind of detachment from everyone and everything else like they did in STALKER which was really a big part of the atmosphere.

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Is this post 2035 or pre-2035? I haven't read it yet
Also is it true that 2035 references Last Light and technically makes it canon?

allow modding

it's going to be shit
>hurr let's make it more like a sandbox and remove the necessity of having a gasmask on the surface which was one of the things that made it more unique
so now it's basically Far Cry with mutants

>>380847374
>not open world

breddy gud

i have high hopes for this, i enjoyed last light more than 2033 and hopefully this one is better too

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>>380847374
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I'm trying to replay 2033 and it's too scary, I can't do it anymore

If it's anything like LL / Redux it can fuck right off.

>>380847948
Library part fucked me up

>>380847851
It's great that they didn't go the le open world meme.

>>380848067
Is it confirmed not open world? Im pretty sure they said it during E3 that it was going to be open world, i really hope it stays like the other games.

>>380847374
I hope it will be a modern stalker

>>380847821
Last light is different than 2034
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro:_Last_Light#Development

>>380847776
>>380847461
Thats because Metro is built on its micro world and how people live in such small space. This isnt your next Stalker game.

>>380847821
Yes, Everything from LL is canon in 2035 except the dark ones. They are dead.

>>380848103

I think they said more open levels, not open world like GTA. Probably something like what Naughty Dog did with that Uncharted 4 level.

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>Not Open World
I was so afraid after seeing that trailer. Looking forward to it.

Hopefully this time they will model genitals for all the monsters.
I mean it's literally 2017, surely we can afford to model some convincing monster dicks

>>380848067
>>380848565
Why?
It's Metro, the level design is going to be absolute garbage.

>>380848747
Because linear is better for it. Open world is cancer.

>>380848902
It's irrelevant if it's linear or open world when the level design is trash.
It's just a different flavor of trash.

>>380848934
Nah, it means you are a cunt.

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>>380848902

>>380848986
Nice argument, drone.
Let this game be another one of those that everyone forgets a day after it comes out, just like Metro 2033 and Last Light.

>>380848292

Let's not forget that Dmitry Glukhovsky is writing the games himself so any dialogue which is present probably won't be as cringe-inducingly terrible writing as other AAA games.

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>>380848747
Both Metro games were great and had great level design.

Am I the only one around here that think 2033 and Last Light are okay shooters at best? Or is it just a meme?

I honestly thought both games were uninteresting, and while the concept was promising they executed it very poorly.

>>380849060
I barely remember anything about Metro's story.

>>380847776
>Characters didn't feel like they had the same kind of detachment from everyone and everything else like they did in STALKER which was really a big part of the atmosphere.
It's almost as if Metro is trying to create a new world in which people have to live in and are engaged in, not a blasted wasteland shithole cancer that people try to escape.

I fucking hate you STALKER faggots who think everything should imitate your shitty 2000s era games that were so fucking great they never got sequels.

>>380849146
I disagree. Enjoyed them all the way through.

>>380849060
So what? The Metro books are terrible.
The first one was just forgettable, then 2034 and 2035 went full retard with illuminati shit and how the war was still going on instead of just sticking to people surviving in the underground.

The best game in the series by far, if they're really giving us a surface that isn't a dark grey blur seen through several layers of lighter grey blur.

>>380849059
>lol shit game
Your argument is much better

>>380847374
Pure kino.

>>380849208

For one thing I don't think he had nearly as much involvement in Metro as he's having with Exodus. Even beyond that, though, plot structure has never been his strongest suit as a writer. Setting and atmosphere have always been where he's strongest.

>>380849343
Even the bad Metro books are better written than most AAA games.

>>380849375
Mediocre mechanics, garbage level design, absolutely forgettable story.
Pretty graphics though.

>>380849445
On that I agree, though.
Videogames as a storytelling medium are a fucking joke, where some praised stories are literally capeshit-tier.

I really like the development of the Metro series.

>Metro 2033
The surface is just ice and dead.
>Metro: Last Light
The surface is starting to green but it's still inhospitable and too dangerous for humans.
>Metro: Exodus
Return to the surface to find a really fucked-up new world.

I think it's good. I like it.

>>380847461
Read the book, nigga. This is what needed to happen for it to be a metro game rather than a generic fps with a metro disguise.

>>380849671
>>380847461
Don't read the ending though, it's fucking stupid.

>>380849454
>mediocre mechanics
Wow you have no clue

>Slav magic is going to save vidya AGAIN

How do they do it?

>>380848353
For the best Artyom needs to live with that mistake.

>>380849760
How?
With a mediocre shooter that stands out in no way whatsoever?

>>380849760
Because they still tell stories, not thinly-disguised fables about politics.

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>still no open-world Metro where the open-world is the metro

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>>380847374
Probably even worse than Last Light

>>380847374
Will it have a stripper scene?

>>380849851
>Because they still tell stories
I don't play videogames for the stories.
Maybe it's about time they start focusing on gameplay again.

Developers should stop bothering with storytelling if the only thing they can come up with is poorly written, boring trash.

>>380849965
>I don't play videogames for the stories.
Okay.

this game is gonna be the stalker game we all wished for

>>380849784
Not really. I have respect for Ghlukovsky, but he didnt capitalize on the guilt in 2035. So its all the same.

>>380849876
Last Light was awesome tho. loved it may more than 2033, a lot more enjoyable and fun to play

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>>380849321
>I fucking hate you STALKER faggots who think everything should imitate your shitty 2000s era games that were so fucking great they never got sequels.
There two sequels though, what are you on about?

>>380849876
>pic
Are you some redditor?

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>>380850136
you know, it's ok if someone has a differing opinion than you. accepting this is part of being an adult... Grow up!

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>>380849965
>I don't play videogames for the stories

>>380850071
There is nothing to really be guilty about, he had no way of knowing, the only thing he should feel guilty about is causing the issue as a kid.

>>380847374
A 6/10, like the other two games.
I'll pirate it, play it once, and delete it a month later when I notice the game is still in my HDD.

>>380847374
Very entertaining gameplay and a story that offends anyone who read the book. Like LL was.

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>>380850204
Can't hear you over my superior taste

>>380850356
Opinions are like assholes etc... you know how it goes

>>380849858
>it also more closely follows the rules of the book

das it maine

>>380847374
Not much, really.
I barely remember anything about Metro 2033, and I had to push myself to finish Last Light.
Only hope I had was that it would be like STALKER, but since it's not, I lost almost all my interest.
They are just not too interesting game.

>>380849343
Oh look here comes the contratard faggot

2033 is god tier book

>>380850792
>contratard
Ah yes, the favourite word of fat as fuck redditors, which is nothing but Ad Populum.
Pathetic.
Might as well not reply at all.

>>380849851

>they still tell stories, not thinly-disguised fables about politics

L-O-FUCKING-L

Metro is a far, far more politically charged fictional universe than anything Bioware or Naughty Dog have put out in years.

It's a deconstruction of the Russian identity via each faction being representative of a different facet of Rusian politics.

>The Fourth Reich is representative of Russia's Nazi groups over the last several decades
>Hanza represents the explosion of Capitalism after the fall of the USSR
>The Red Line represents the Soviet apologists who still advocate for it

You get the picture.

>>380850665
you are a faggot and the other "why isnt this stalker wahh wahh" whiners are faggots too

>>380850853
Contratard

>>380850875
That's true, but the commentary you see in the books really doesn't filter through into the games. In Metro the politics are the backdrop in a sense, whereas in Western shit they are the entire point.

>>380851008
So yes, an incredibly obese and smelly redditor with literally zero arguments besides ad populum.
Excellent.
Which is funny because Metro books aren't popular at all.

>>380851049
Contratard

It will look good, no doubt about it. Maybe I'll even consider buying a new GPU, mine is 4 years now and it's showing.
Gameplay wise, after Last Light I fear it will be even more cowaduty with less stalker. Or just expanded Kshatriya DLC.

>>380851049
Contratard


>>380851019
Weeb degenerate

>>380851019
This with metro the politics seem like a consequence of the setting, and even in the book it's not the point they are basically obstacles on the path of stopping the dark ones.

>>380851082
>>380851154
404: argument not found.
Do tell, do you have any actual reason as to why Metro 2033 is good, or are you just going to post your strawman again?
You are, aren't you, reddit?
Delicious.

>>380851163
Eh, in the latest Metro book the "the government is running everything behind the scenes and fucking us all over for its own benefit" is pretty blatantly a stab against Putin (though, to be fair, it could be a stab against literally any Russian leader going back a thousand years).

>>380851170
Contratard

>>380851019

>"Ze Reds most zertainly have zier problemz, buht ze Nazis are fucking inhuman - if I am faced wit ze choice, I know which one I zhall pick."

- An quote from Artyom's journal which he read to you in a loading screen during Last Light

The politics get fairly front-stage at time in the games.

>>380847374
When you don't know me anymore?

>>380851280
I'm mostly referring to 2033, it only hinted at the government plot. And thank god that plot point didn't bleed through to Last Light.

>>380851412
So your tactic to convince others to read these filthy slav books is Ad populum?
Post it a couple of times more.

>>380850875
>You get the picture.
That they're all bad?

>>380851484
Contratard

>>380847374
I'm only pretty sure that I can't take anymore
Before you take a swing
I wonder what are we fighting for
When I say out loud
I want to get out of this
I wonder is there anything
I'm going to miss
I wonder how it's going to be
When you don't know me
How's it going to be

>>380851468
Yeah, 2033 was great.

>>380851420
That's true, but then the Commies turn out to be the real bad guys in the end and arguably just as insane. Artyom (and the player) were being led to believe that the Commies > the Nazis at that point in time to set up for the tweest.

>>380851495

In Metro none of them get a very flattering depiction, yeah.

>>380847374
Feels unnecessary, Last Light had a perfect ending

>>380851449
>>380851534
Nice

>>380847853
>i enjoyed last light more than 2033

Why not try killing yourself instead?

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>>380849965
>I don't play videogames for the stories.

>>380851653
Hanza doesn't really get that treatment,they stay out of most politics after their war with the Reds. They are probably on of the better groups because of the lack of genocide.

>>380851525
Delicious, delicious desperation from obese redditors incapable of defending their literally-what "books".

>>380851656
If it didn't star Artyom and had a new protagonist with a new story it could work. But it doesn't based on the trailer so we'll have to work with it.

>>380851605

The Red Line's general is most certainly a morally compromised person who acts as a significant antagonist throughout the game, but the level of sheer evil shown by the Nazis just isn't matched by the Red Lines' antagonism towards the Rangers.

To be blunt, I'm pretty sure we never saw a Red Line gulag like we saw a Nazi concentration camp.

>>380851768
>>380850253
>>380850060
>actually playing games for the story
I assume you also enjoy reading Chris Chan's Sonichu fanfiction?

>>380851924

>If it didn't star Artyom and had a new protagonist with a new story it could work.

Woah yeah and maybe a new setting, different planet maybe. New genre. Hell, Metro: Andromeda

>>380851926
Again, you're right.

But again, I don't think the Reds were portrayed as a sympathetic alternative to the Nazis. Nor do I think that portraying Nazis as cartoon villains is really that much of a sin. They're fucking Nazis, my dude. I wouldn't expect them to be subject to nuanced representation.

Contratard

>>380847374
Unnecesary.
Probably made purely with money in mind.
Will pirate it at most.

>>380851280

How long until Glukhovsky accidentally trips out his balcony?

>>380852180
>Unnecesary.

Yes, because the 2 non-ending "Well then what happened next?" endings of Last Light really closed the story.

>Will pirate

No shit, you haven't bought a game in a decade like anyone else on this board

>>380851954
Games as a platform offer a very unique way of telling a story that no other forms of media can offer. How developers implement an story to a game is a different thing.

>>380852105
We're already leaving the metro so it's already half way there might as well go big or go home.

>>380852143
Redditor.

>>380852123

Nor would I ever WANT Nazis to be treated as a "more sympathetic alternative" (outside of perhaps a game which is explicitly TRYING to force the player to compromise their morality, like Papers Please did).

This is, however, an example of the games' being explicitly political down to their forefront.

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>>380851954
I do enjoy reading fan fiction from time to time, yes.

>>380852324
Everything has the potential to be great, we all can be our best.
Shame that, in this case, no one truly knows how to take advantage of that.
So yeah, have a bunch of cutscenes to tell you a mediocre, superhero movie-tier story, enjoy.

>>380851872
That was the most embarrassing chain of events that I have ever seen unfold before my very eyes

>>380852462
>This is, however, an example of the games' being explicitly political down to their forefront.
Yeah, I guess. If you want to call a short remark about Nazis being batshit political then I can't say you're wrong because it is - I admit that.

The crux of my objection is that there are levels of being political. "Nazis are bad" is a relatively noncontroversial statement compared to some of the politics being injected into Western games.

I think we're on different sides of the same page here.

>>380852689

Wait, I think I see where you're coming from: I think you're viewing it through a lens of Western politics, while I'm trying to view it through the lens of Russian politics. I'm far, far from right-leaning myself, but when viewing a political work which came out of a conservative culture, I try to analyze from within that culture's lens. In this case, since modern Nazis aren't as universally detested in Russia as they are in the West, I interpret it as the author saying "why AREN'T we detesting them just as much?"

>>380853008
I'm aware of Russia's Nazi problem but I think even today, even in Russia, "Nazis are bad" is relatively uncontroversial.

I've never been to Russia so I could be wrong, but that is my impression.

>>380853204

Saying that the German Nazis were bad is expected, but people don't really take it as out of the ordinary to see someone with a swastika proclaiming that non-whites should be deported or camp'd

>>380847374
I guess a more open but still very story-oriented game with a lot of interactive cutscenes like listening to/following NPC, and invisible walls or things that lead to death everywhere when you try to explore too far like ravines, radiations, toxic waters. I don't think we should expect a Stalker-like.

I'm ok with it if it's only a classic METRO game where things happen mainly outside of the tunnels and without time limit. They know how to do good linearity and suddenly going full open-world can be a bad idea.

>>380850792
2033 was alright, 2034 was god awful, it reads like fanfaction written by an edgy 14-year old

>>380853701

>suddenly going full open-world can be a bad idea.

These guys have what it takes to revive Stalker in the form of an open world Metro game but I doubt they have the budget for it. Would still love to see it though.

>>380854014

Wasn't he literally a teenager when he wrote it?

GOTY

>>380854057
I think he was 18 when he wrote metro 2033, and like 30 when he wrote 2034.

>>380854042
Thank god they don't and they know that linear is better.
Open World is a shit meme.

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>only 2033 novel was translated into English
Feels bad man.

>>380847374
When you don't know me anymore?

Why the fuck are people against open world ?
I don't see anyone bashing stalker for being open world

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*blocks your path*

>>380851872
Fucking christ how fucking stupid are you man
5 replies to him saying one word
Wow

>>380855404
Shadow of Chernobyl is hub-based and not open world
Clear Sky and Call of Pripyat are both trash

>>380854897
both 2034 and 2035 are translated to enligsh

>>380855404

I think Ubisoft pretty much ruined it with all their collect-a-thon games.

Back in the day, nobody bashed Morrowind and Gothic for being open world. Hell, linear was bashed to hell and back for not having enough freedom.

And it's /v/, they will bitch about anything.

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>>380855508
>Clear Sky reuses 95% of SoC's map
>b-but Clear Sky is open world!

What we want
>Basically Metro but with more open areas to explore and with some features from Stalker games

What we probably get
>Far Cry 3 with Metro skin

>>380855519
Since when?

>>380855586
All I said was that it was trash

>>380855404
Ubisoft shitted out dozens of open-world games and now /v/ has a prejudice against them.

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>>380855589
Nope. It's been confirmed that it's not open world and is separated by levels. We're getting exactly what we want.

>>380855563
>>380855658
It's not just Ubisoft, Rockstar and GTA V are perfect examples of shitty OW designs

>>380855728
Is it level based but with more open areas or open ended like Metroid games?

Because actually I like the second one more. And 4A already hinted that they're making an open world game. I thought that it's gonna be like Stalker.

>>380855801
Bethesda as well

It looks like exactly what I want from a sequel. 2033 was the most compelling story driven FPS I played since Half Life 2 and Last Light was a great refinement of the original's jankiness. Moving beyond the Metro is an exciting step to take and the outdoor areas look gorgeous. I hope they bring back a bit more of 2033's survival horror atmosphere but it just looks like it'll be another solid Metro game overall. Probably the most pleasant surprise at E3 for me. I think it'll still be much more focused than STALKER, but I love both series so I'm curious to see what a hybrid of both might look like.

>>380855624
since 2014 and 2016 respectively

https://www.amazon.com/Metro-2034-METRO-Dmitry-Glukhovsky/dp/1473204305/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497706825&sr=8-1&keywords=metro+2034

https://www.amazon.com/METRO-English-language-Dmitry-Glukhovsky/dp/1539930726/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1497706825&sr=8-2&keywords=metro+2034

>>380855882
The former, not the later.
>And 4A already hinted that they're making an open world game
They're making it more open, as in, bigger levels. It's not open world.

>>380855508
>CoP is trash
It fixed most of the problems of SotC.
It removed the need of having to go through 3 loading screens just to sell your stuff. And the devs fucking learned that shitty starting weapons are not fun (screw SotC and it's beginning)
Although I admit that the maps were lacking locations (Pripyat is disappointing once you find out that there's nothing to do)

>>380856091
Ah that's quite disappointing. Still, I liked both games already, couldn't be worse

>>380855801
GTA has always been open-world though.

>>380855508
>Call of Pripyat
>trash

I'll give you Clear Sky but some tasteless bitches are just plain ungrateful for good games

>>380847838
Clear to say you've never played previous games or read the books. Go end yourself

>>380849454
>my brother didnt let me play the game on his computer
>my parents keep telling me we need to move out of the house
>wahhhh 30 year old manchild

>>380855404
Because Stalker is one of the only good ones.
And it's likely because it's not really open-world. CoP was a good game but you could already see the classic open-world problems with the bigger maps, it felt empty and boring at times.

Open-worlds are almost always mediocre and it's even worse outside of the RPG genre. I wouldn't like a METRO game where I explore empty wastelands for hours with the occasional fight with a group of 5 small mutants or a big bullet spongy one.

>>380849146
I mean they don't have space battles or giant laser guns or witty Marvel quips, if that's what you're looking for.

They're tight, well-made standard FPS games mixed with survival horror and a unique moral spin on post-apocalyptic/first contact stories. They're great games and they fill the void left by Half Life for a lot of people, albeit with more horror and less puzzle solving.