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Who was in the wrong here?

>As the longest strike in Screen Actors Guild history chugs on, video game voice actors are making painful career sacrifices to show solidarity with their union. 234 days into the strike, after Microsoft announced Life Is Strange: Before The Storm, fans immediately sussed out that award-winning voice actress and SAG-AFTRA member Ashly Burch will not reprise her original role as the rebellious teen Chloe.

>Shortly after Microsoft’s E3 presentation, Burch, who has voiced Aloy in Horizon Zero Dawn and Tiny Tina in Borderlands 2, said that Square Enix had decided to go with a non-union actress.
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>>380837326

She is a good voice actress, she has some talent unlike her brother who is useless at everything. But there are literally thousands of other voice actresses willing to take her place and will do just as well.
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>>380837470
Sad that the new Chloe in the Life Is Strange prequel is fucking awful then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWNb9_NlD1I&t=946
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>>380837535
hahahaha holy shit that's awful. and yeah i know it takes place like 2 years before LiS but still.
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>>380837535

Why does she sound older... and look more manly? What the fuck isn't this a prequel?

That dialogue was cringey as fuck, even worse then the original.
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>>380837535
so? its not like devs want to start paying fucking royalties for the least effort job in the entire industry
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>>380837535
kek this is some shitty sound design
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>>380837535

They somehow fucked up Chloe's voice. I'm still buying it though.
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>>380837787
It's being filmed from a big room with huge galm.
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>>380837326
> award-winning voice actress Ashley Burch

Heh
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>>380837714
SO, if it's easy to replace a talented voice actor with somebody who'll do just as well, why is the new Chloe a chain-smoking 35 year old robot?
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>>380837326
Ashly Burch is my waifu. Do you think I have a chance with her in real life?
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>>380837535
If she were younger wouldn't her voice be higher and not deeper? This is only a demo though, they can at least change the pitch of Chloe's voice during development. Right guys?
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Voice acting is literally the least important thing in a video game.
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>>380838118
they are easily replaced
its not like a writers strike
and theres no eceleb appeal to this shit other than some SJW website writing pieces about muh voice actress

games have been coming out, world didnt stop turning

when people do strikes usually means they are important and them striking woulkd affect things, but you see that little bitch troy baker signing up for another game
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>>380837535
I really don't see the problem here. Ashly is not a good voice actress in my opinion, she is only good when she plays over the top memey characters like tiny Tina. Shes perfect as her, but her voicing Chloe always bugged me and probably is the reason why I don't like Chloe that much. I'm excited about her new VA, demo gameplay looks promising
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>>380838226

>Wanting a female protagonist to sound/ look young and attractive in anyway
>Being attracted to women under 30 years old at all

Misogynist pig
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>>380838148
Max's VA > Chloe's VA
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>>380837661
It's not even being done by the original devs, they are too busy with Life is Strange 2.
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>>380837661
>What the fuck isn't this a prequel?

it is a prequel
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>>380837326
>VAs not knowing that devs could just go to Bongland and find a legion of Theatre actors that would jump at the chance to beef their resume up with an easy gig
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>>380838148
seems autistic enough

>>380838709
>It's not even being done by the original devs, they are too busy with Life is Strange 2.

so its a blatant cash grab then, alright
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>>380837326
I always find it funny when people go on strike and then their employers just hire someone else... It's especially funny when it's athletes or actors or some other ridiculously over-payed job.
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>>380838690
>tfw you will NEVER be Max
How to cope, bros?
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>tfw everyone who likes this is a woman and lbgt

Anyone near the 312?
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>>380838690
wew, what a qt
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>>380838690
Nathan's VA is my husbando
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>>380838928
Correct, it also doesn't have the gimmick from the first game.
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>>380837326
voice acting ruined video games anyway.

the sooner we let it go the better
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>>380839069
Who voiced Nathan Postscott?
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Is this strike even giving companies a hard time? Seems like it would be a minor inconvenience at most, and consumers don't really give a shit about recognizable VAs on top of that.
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>>380839143
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>>380839143
Nik Shriner
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>>380837326
That fucking strike is still going? Jesus, what are they even trying to achieve?
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>waaaah pay me more and give me entitlements for saying some lines in a record booth waaaaaa


this strike is so gay
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>>380839183
Minor inconvenience, despite how much we like to bitch about them, bafta actors hardly ever do vidyas. They are more often in commercials and cartoons.
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>>380839069
looks like a fine male specimen
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>>380838690
I prefer Kate's VA 2bh
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>>380838690
>>380839069
>>380839405
all the LiS VAs are good looking, damn

except Ashly, she's ugly as fuck
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>>380838928
Yes! I'm gonna start harassing her on Twitter.
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>>380838118
This isn't indicative of anything. There are shitty voice actors in and out of the union. This is just an unfortunate casting.

For example, Mass Effect: Andromeda is all union actors and the acting is terrible. While Nier: Automata is all non-union and the english dub is great.
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>>380839405
wew even more of a qt than max
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>>380838953
You mean be IN Max, right? Haha, being Max would make you a girl, silly.
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>>380837470
>She is a good voice actress
hahahahahaha
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>>380838457
Way to not answer the question. If it was easy to replace her, why is the new Chloe complete shit? Stop your rambling nonsense and answer.
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>>380837930
Why would you buy a chickflick game?
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>>380837326
I would start paying royalties to everyones depending the time they worked on the project.


Of course, I would make previsions onthesales of the game and make sure people wouldn't get much more than what their salary would have been.


0.00002 percent for every hour spent on the game if I thought it would get me 1 million dollars.
20 dollars an hour for the voice actors.
But since I also want to pay the devs like that, I'll pinch in 0.00003 % so they get 30 dollars an hour.

This also means they get paid less if the game flops.
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>>380837326
>Performance matters
>t. David Hayter
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>>380839661
see >>380839554
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>not playing Life is Strange with japanese dub
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>>380838118
The new voice actress could literally be a 90 year old grandma with a Jamaican accent and I wouldn't care. Union VAs and their rule about getting paid more with every game they voice can suck it.
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>>380839554
>While Nier: Automata is all non-union and the english dub is great.
Well, that's debatable.
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>caring about Life is Tumblr
the only way to enjoy this shitheap is some alcohol and broteam
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Good fucking job. Tiny Tina is literally the most cringeworth Reddit character ever fucking created and that taints anything she's done since. That, and being related to Anthony. As hard as it is to find a 30 year old to say shit like "hella" and "shaka brah", I think it'll be okay.
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>>380839857
>waaaaa tumblr latched onto the game therefore it sucks and null
>i get all my opinions from that one video of the guy who hates all episodic games

woooah
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>>380839791
>mfw it's real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBAVQmbNbBs
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the strike is still going ?
fucking kek how the union's coffers must be running low by now
its almost as if nothing happened too, really makes you think
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>>380839183
Problem (for VA strike) is that out of many talents in union, only a handful are really known. With them giving only voices to characters, and usually in some specific way (Cartoonish voice, digitally-mixed voice and so on), so for any regular consumer it's next to impossible to remember "that one person who gave voice to that one character". Not to sound like fedora consumer, but humans rely way too much on visual images to remember stuff.
So, with that in consideration, what's most logical step for company if their VA is on strike? Get another one, of course. Not to mention that bigshots of industry like EA and so on crapped on integrity of any kind, so they would switch VA's on a whim even without strikes sometimes.
So, basically: consumers can't and don't care about majority of actors and companies don't care about voices in general as long as there are /some/ voiceovers, no matter how shitty.

I don't stand with actors on strike though. I know it's world where everyone are by themselves, but right here, in this industry, they are not most important people, and their complaints sound rather asinine considering how many people are against any sort of voiceovers. They probably falsely think that games = movies, and this bites them in the ass now. Now, if they'd somehow made other people fight for their rights, like programmers and designers, that could work. It won't, of course, because union will more likely shot itself in the head than help someone unrelated to them.
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>>380839976
MAKSU
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live by replacing a VA
die by being replaced
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>>380839857
Everyday I am thankful that despite me being a 28 yo cynic in every sense of the word I still can enjoy video games for what they are instead of always having this paranoid thought of sjw/tumblr/{{{them}}}/[insert boogeyman of the year] being out there putting agendas in video games and "ruining" them in the process
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Voice acting was a mistake. Boohoo my voice is so unique and flexible please pay me four buckets of dolla bills per day.
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>>380839976
why they all sound so angry even in calm moments?
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>>380840292
It's Japanese, they talk fast and have many k sounds in their language which sound "hard" and "tough" to western listeners
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>>380839930
Don't kid yourself. Life is SJW is an absolute tumblr feminist lesbian shitfest.
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>>380839930
>implying my entire reason it sucks is because of Tumblr
I mean if you looked at every plot device and action, you wouldn't think it's retarded because you're defending it right now.
>implying any episodic games are good
they all suck ass from not being able to pace themselves correctly
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>>380840008
Their complaints are also asinine compared to how badly everyone else has it in the industry and they aren't even unionized so they can't do shit if company decides to fire half the team after current project is done.
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>>380840382
Who are you calling SJW, soldier?
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>>380840227
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>>380840382
sure bud. keep yourself away from it despite it being a good game.

>>380840405
>call it life is tumblr
>hurr durr my entire reason it sucks is not because it's tumblr

im only defending it because it's a good game you retard. and i enjoyed it.

>i hate episodic games
there's your answer. you're already convinced into your argument. dont see the need to try to convince you otherwise.
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>>380840565
>defending yourself by fellating your own argument
really activated my almonds
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>>380840670
what else can i say to tell you otherwise. why come into a thread that you know would make you upset? lol
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>>380840768
then give some facts next time kid, your hugbox awaits
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>>380840008
Voice actors are only a few % of total actors represented by the SAG, they can just keep them striking indefinitely to make a point.
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>>380839285
They want royalties. Most of the big publishers were willing to coincide on most points except that one so of course the unions threw a hissy fit and are still striking.
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>>380840938
facts about what you dingleberry
>anime poster
nvm i've seen it all
>hugbox
yeah thread is mostly about LiS and that va and i like the game so I decided to post? are you mentally challenged? go back to /a/
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>>380840565
It's not a "game" It's social propaganda that encourages homosexuality in little girls.
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>>380841109
>getting triggered by anime on a cambodian imgur server
shouldn't you be in /pol/ by now?
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>>380841041
They wanted bullshit like 4 hour breaks every 2 hours, as well.
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>>380841202
k, i enjoyed the game though. whatcha gonna do about it

>>380841249
>maybe if i say he's from /pol/ i win
strike one pal
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>>380841109
>anime poster
You rang?
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i honestly wouldn't have even realized there was a strike if /v/ didn't talk about it

that really just goes to show you how little voice actors honestly matter
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>>380840508
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>>380842182
what anime is that creature from
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Is there anyway to use the voice actor strike to make a move into the industry as a VA if you're a literal no one? I get told often I should do radio and that I have a nice voice, and I'd love to give it a try, but it seems impossible to get into unless you know someone
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>>380839662

Because chickflick game makes me happy.
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>>380837535
Fuck, they could have done better using text-to-speech. At least Rachel sounds great.
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>>380837326
Voice actors are stage actor rejects, they're mostly untalented retards in the west.
It'd be different if they had talent, had training, had a lot of work to do (comparable to the other people who work on the project), or had any merit in their claims for things like residuals.
But they don't.
VA work is tiring, sure, but it doesn't require any effort, or at least vidya VAs don't put any in.
No reason to reward lazyness.

Unlike voice actors, devs are the ones who suffer.
Devs are the ones who work.
And devs are the ones who deserve all these benefits.
Not two bit retards who can barely act.
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>>380838690
>>380839069
>>380839405
I would fuck them all.
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>>380837326
>Ashly Burch
NOBODY CARES
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>>380837326
>. 234 days
>Only notable loss is a shitty western lesbian VN
VAs haven't even dropped in quality lately
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>>380837326
They can just hire those non-unionized cucks that voice (phone it in) for FUNimation.
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>>380841202
If that's the goal, it does a bad job by making Chloe such a fucking cunt.
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>>380843998
ashly burch is cute
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I don't see how the strike will actually end. Publishers don't need SAG actors so they'll never give in to the demands of the union. On the actors side, no voice actor works on games exclusively; they do cartoons commercials, live acting etc. This isn't a typical strike in which people are literally out of a job for the duration. The actors can keep this going for as long as they want.
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>>380844359
The best outcome will be that they start hiring more stage actors. Unfortunately they'll just hire randos who voice as well as the union fucks.
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>all the salty manchildren jealous of voice actors

Kek, if it's so easy why don't you replace them? For most /v/irgins, I'm pretty sure it's their meme dream.

>mfw I've been getting more roles in small budget games
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>>380837535
This entire video screams "We needed to get some footage out and slapped together the lines haphazardly."

The acting quality is all over the place. Animations too.
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>>380844064

When someone told me that the strike was still going, I was honestly surprised. I hadn't noticed anything different so I thought they resolved that shit ages ago.
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>>380844359
Funniest part is early on the agreed to the majority of their demands but that wasn't good enough

This will probably end with SAG dying unless they are well funded
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>>380844581

It takes a certain type of conceit to want to be a performer for a living. An enormous ego and unbridled arrogance that leads you to believe "People should pay attention to me!"

Most people are not like that.
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>>380844585
You can tell that the whole game is shameless money grab garbage. is no being developer by DONTNOD, but by some noname studio, the original writer is not present, nor the original VA fro Chloe, there's an extra chapter only available in the Deluxe Edition, and the whole game is only three episode long.
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>>380844581
good luck, Sean
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>>380845175
>and the whole game is only three episode long.

What really? I guess this would be fine if the game were cheaper in price to reflect this.
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>>380844064
>strike for almost a year
>zero impact from it
I think that's a sign to give up.
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>>380837326
Square Enix aren't one of the companies subject to the industrial action. There is some bullshit going on here.

My guess is that she wanted more money because she thinks she's hot shit now and Square told her to fuck off (since this prequel is a cheap cash-in especially).

It's in both parties best interests to blame the strike. Stops Square looking cheap, stops Burch looking greedy.
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>>380837326
good thing she only did it once because now itll be easy to replace her and with little backlash
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I guess this is the reason Echoes and Automata had great dubs then.
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>>380839976

>MAXU
>CROE

I don't know why this made me laugh
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>>380837326
Holy hell, they have been on strike for over half a year now?
At one point it's time to admit nobody gives a single shit about you and it's for the better interest for yourself to just work on the old conditions again.
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>>380840565
>good game.

A good game has gameplay, pressing x during cutscene is no gameplay.
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>>380837326
>voice "actors" thing they are special
KEK

Every women who can speak fluently is qualified enough. Today there are so many filters that it doesn't really matters who talks as long as someone talks.
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>>380849143
it has very very minor puzzle solving moments, It's a tier 5 game
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So glad this strike isn't working, VA's need to learn their place.
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>>380837535

Who gives a damn, a prequel for the worst character in the damned game.
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>>380842254
Boku no Pico
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Source on the B team working on this one while the A team is working on LiS 2?
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>>380853301
Use google
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>>380853561
If I type life is strange 2 I just get this game
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I still can't believe they demanded residuals.
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>>380840492
DAVEHD, KEECK DAT TEHBL
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Voice actors deserve more money but programmers and designers deserve an even bigger raise and a breaking of shady programming cartels that keep their wages down.
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>>380837326
Unions are never in the right. This goes triple for unions in the "entertainment" industry.
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>>380838118
The same reason that a movie can have a bad, miscasted actor
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>>380837326
I struggle to pay my rent and feed my family doing a skilled labor tech job while making sure my son has a college fund and saving 3% for my own retirement. Meanwhile these people complain they're not rich enough.

Fuck Hollywood, fuck voice actors, fuck the video game industry, and fuck all rich people. We need a modern day French revolution in the USA. Off with their heads.
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>>380854368
Congratulations, lefty, now nothing of sustance gets made
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>>380838429
This. Reminder, two decades of games with no voice acting. And some of the greatest games at that.
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>>380854539
>fell for the wife and kids meme
>complains that he doesn't have enough money
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>>380854547
Yeah large tech companies really are hurting money wise. Stop sucking corporate dick you moron.
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>>380837326
>Square Enix had decided to go with a non-union actress.
HAHAHAHAHA
THE BURCH SIBLINGS JUST CAN'T STOP GETTING BTFO
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If they just stuck to the stuff about more breaks to not damage their voices and more info on what they're working on they'd have way more support. Its these greedy residuals that are the problem
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>western voice actors
>english voice acting
HAHAHA. Westaboos are pathetic.
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