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Blunder of the Century

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>dumbed down jobs
>no new races
>less dungeons than HW and ARR
>only 2 new DPS
>Holy Trinity fucked due to only adding DPS
>instancing bugged
>can't progress MSQ
>can't do any MP content besides FATES due to bugged MSQ
>$40 without a free month

Warlords of Draenor 2.0
People defend this shit?
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>mfw my job wasn't dumbed down
lmaoing at whm, sch and smn's lives
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>Queues are down to taking seconds
>But I still can't do anything without getting disconnected
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>>>/vg/ exists.
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>get into potd run
>cat boy, dragon boy, a male highlander
>the highlander keeps disconnecting every five steps
>the cat and dragon run to EVERY single room to grab chests even though they're already 99/99
>run takes like 20 minutes as a result

I wish there was a "please let me out" button that didn't involve taking a penalty.
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>>380833857
Hey thanks for letting us know, champ. :)
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>>380833786
>WHM lost almost half it's entire kit with no compensation
b-but lily gauge tho!
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>Samurai
worth every penny
bought the collector's edition too
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>>380833860
wait for the game to disconnect you like it did the highlander :^)

the hilarious part is a non-tryhard run would probably take 10 minutes now because SAM and RDM are so fucking strong
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>didn't even get the expansion
>login for shits and giggles because 2 weeks left on sub
>can't even teleport anywhere
>get disconnected
>get to central coerthas
>lag
>pre 70 drk is 1-2-3 class

I'm not getting the expansion needless to say. Also what the hell, dark arts uses so little mp I can spam it all the time because I use the souleater combo all the time anyway. This mp management is fucking ridiculous. Used to be that your MP would be gone after about 3 DAs.
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>>380833905
You're welcome, can you make your generals there?

Thanks.
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>>380833996
Have you seen the general there?
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>>380833996
Sorry, can't do. Run along now.
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>tfw no one to do content with
Everyone just skipped this one and kept doing the MSQ
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>>380833996
Right after you bring your hourly waifu and /pol/ generals there.
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>>380833786
SMN's really not as bad as I thought it was going on be. Our AOE definitely has been neutered though, I'll give you that.
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>>380834045
more like everyone is still stuck at Raubahn and Pipin
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>>380833786
Which jobs didn't get dumbed down? looking to come back. looking to be tank or healer
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>>380834098
:^) Its a feature.
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So, does Ala Ghanna's future lie in quarrying?
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>>380833479
i dunno setting up a good bane on scholar made it pretty fun

ast seems pretty much the same dps wise though i guess, they couldve done interesting things with the left over spells instead of just removing them
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>>380833992
Your MP no longer drains with darkside, it just stops regenerating. On top of that you get back more MP from Blood Weapon/Syphon Strike.

The tradeoff is that you get fucking nothing from blood price now. it takes 80 hits to refill your MP bar.
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>>380834036
>>>/vg/179969667
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>>380834045
I'd tank the shit out of that if Raubahn would let me do godamn anything.
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Is this easily playable on PS4 with controller?
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>>380833786
MCH here, I wish they swapped when we got Cooldown and the Shot Trait. Until you get to 64 I feel as if you get punished for using ammo before 50 Heat
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Send help, I just started Heavensward and I can't even do the instanced quests in Sea of Clouds and the Western Highlands. Guess I might as well go unlock a bunch of jobs or level fishing.
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I'm surprised they didn't add chocobos to this quest since it has you going around spamming a search button
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>>380834210
Even moreso than ever
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>>380833992
You could always do that

blood price/weapon is a thing

drk has always been 1-2-3

the big change is syphon strike now restoring extra mp in grit, it's worth an entire da by itself
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>>380834137
Only paladin and astrologian are viable.
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>>380833670
Except that is the case you gibbering retard. You don't get Aero anymore so whenever you need to manipulate cards you get 1 free oGCD from Combust if it happens to need reapplying otherwise you're going to have to just delay your malefics. It makes the job feel like shit to play. I bet you think removing touch of death and fracture from monk was a good idea too
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>>380834270
Seriously? What's a fun easy class for PS4 version? Dragoon seems cool.
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>watching larri stream while spamming
>he gets in after 5 and a half hours
This is no fun, I've been at this for 6 hrs now. FUCK PIPIN
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>>380833720
>no new races
Get fucked furfags.
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>>380834224
>Guess I might as well go unlock a bunch of jobs
Always fun, definitely moreso now that we have more inventory space.
You could also run around and do some FATEs because there are tons of RDM/SAMs running around them now.
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>>380834137
"I'm getting stronger":
AST
BLM
PLD
BRD
RDM
SAM
DRG
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>Stocked up on kingly whiskers ahead of time

Who fukken rich here
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Red Mage is so damn fun, I thought SMN was my favorite caster but this steals the cake from it, especially in the early levels.

>>380834045
tfw not there yet
leveling RDM since my FC leader is a bit bitchy that i did the 61 dungeon
Not my fault that I kept spamming the fuck out of Raubahn, although I might have gotten lucky with Pipin since nearly no one was near him.
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It's a
>have to find multiple things in a circle
>one of those is behind a large rock on the edge of the circle
quest
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>>380834358
Try about 22 for me. Not non stop, but whenever I was logged in I was either clicking on Raubahn, doing shitty quests or collecting the flight nodes available.
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>>380834183
What the fuck was square thinking.
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>As the WoL we're basically a WMD
>Get the nerf bat sometimes for story reasons

Why the fuck couldn't we just BTFO Zenos
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>>380834467
>FC leader is a bit bitchy that i did the 61 dungeon
Sounds like that subhuman is a nigger faggot. So they pay your sub or something?
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>>380834578
He's got 3 swords man.
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>>380833720
>People defend this shit?
People have been defending this shit since 1.0
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>>380834632
I'll admit I found his whacko rotating sheathe thing cool.
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>tfw level 64 and still hasn't cleared Raubahn
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>>380834392
I'm probably going to unlock AST/RDM/SAM, and then hope that I can at least progress in the MSQ by then.
I thought I would be safe outside of Stormblood content, but I guess not.
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I feel like playing SAM in pvp is spoiling me because how it makes all three combos macro'd into three buttons only.
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PLD has too many buttons. Their goal was to reduce button bloat but PLD got to keep literally all their skills. The changes to cross-class didn't help because the only useful cross-class skills for PLD were Mercy Stroke, Bloodbath and Foresight, which every tank lost, including WAR. PLD is the only one that can take back ALL of the skills they lost, plus at least one good new one like Reprisal. Then they have 5 new skills on top of that.

Shit just needs to be cut down. Even if they improve their other skills to compensate, they just have way too many cooldowns. Remove Bulwark and Divine Veil.
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>>380833720
>$40 without a free month
holy shit really? how many new zones are there?
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>>380834632
>WoL SAM only has one sword
>this nigga has three
Zenos is playing SAM on a whole other level.
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are people really surprised the servers are shit when we're playing a game where you can't even look at your guild roster while you're in a dungeon?

the foundation of this game is built on toothpicks
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>>380834746
Fuck off
If you think divine veil or bulwark are bad and need to be removed I want you to go play warrior or dark knight cause you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Stop bringing shame to the glorious paladin.
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>>380834718
you might get fucked on all of those since they have instances in the first quest
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>>380834776
Hi nice to meet you there pal, is this your first mmo, sure is fun haha!

But seriously kill yourself, this is normal, hell msot mmo expansions are 60$ and they don't include free months either.
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How do I disable lala nudity? The mod was going great until I walked into Limsa and saw those fucking potatoes.
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>>380834210
It's not playable at all, dude. Can't get past the first quest.
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>>380834940
Put a bullet in your brain maybe
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>>380834940
Link to mod?
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>>380834776
We only have access to half of 2 areas because instances don't work, and a tiny city.
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>>380834940
How about you go ask your kind in /xivg/?
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>>380834776
Two
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How the fuck are you guys playing the game?
Servers are shitting themselves and there's a goddamn queue that takes at least 45mins to get in the game.
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What's the difference between Oka and Mangetsu?
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I watched the susano-o fight.

Stormblood sucks.
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>>380834997
>being a linecuck
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>>380834835
I have no idea how this game manages to function on such shitty outdated servers. According to Yoshi they cant add more face options and other customizations because it would make the character data packets too big and stressful or something.
Not to mention a glamour log would kill the servers, despite every other mmo managing it or something similar just fine.
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>>380834578
The WoL isn't all that incredible. Yes, they are very skilled adventurers who have defeated incredibly powerful entities, but their status as WoL isn't really a power boost. Hydraean only really steps in when things get REALLY bad, and the WoL would absolutely die without her help. Beyond that, it almost always came down to the WoL's own skills, and despite their immense history of fighting literal gods, they are still mortal.
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>>380835043
playing is a generous description
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>>380835043

I'm on Behemoth and haven't had that much trouble outside of the first couple of hours EA started. Was able to do the SAM job quest right away and was getting into dungeons and instances too. Even got past Raubahn but haven't done more of the MSQ yet because I've been leveling SAM.
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>>380835043
Queues are negligible on Leviathan right now. Takes like 30 seconds at most to get in. I know because I had to relog like 20 times to get through the second RDM quest.
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>>380834880
Goddamnit. I guess I can go chop trees or fish or some shit.
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>>380834354
Anything works on controller. Just find a class that suits your liking
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>>380835080
Most MMOs only save character data to the servers every 15 minutes or so. XIV saves it every 5 seconds.
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>these new mount speeds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTHsOSGJHN0
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>>380835049
they unlock different sen
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>>380835296
what quests do you even do to get the second speed boosts? or are they also locked behind raubahn savage?
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>>380835085
Way to conveniently leave out the whole vanilla HW storyline, where WoL lost all their power from Jorm (Who's strong, but not Hydaelyn) and came back twice as powerful as before when they not only regained their old power, but Jorm's too.

Don't know if you've noticed, but every single dialogue regarding WoL from knowledgeable characters implies they're far too strong to be human anymore.

We're honestly reaching a point in the story where WoL failing at anything is a never ending escalation of power, and whenever that Garlemald expansion happens, it's gonna be some ridiculous shit.
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I've been addicted to this game for such a long time but the shittiness of today has really just opened my eyes. Everything about this expansion has been underwhelming as fuck, sure there may be more past Raubahn and Pippin, but of the shit I've already seen has been boring. Music is good, but the zones are dull, new classes are okay but the fact that it's another 2 DPS is just garbage, along with the butchering of so many classes, though I guess I can't complain I play DRG. The class bars are fucking dumb, I wish you could go back to how it was before, it just takes up space needlessly to give me information I could already keep track of easily. Plus as >>380835080 said the game is so limited because of the little ways in which they can add and change shit it becomes even MORE underwhelming. I'm kinda just ranting cause I'm disappointed, but then again I don't really know what else I expected.
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>>380835364
They're bought with hunt points or whatever they're called. Centurio seals?
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>>380835364
They're in the patch notes.
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Why is pve exp not based on performance? There are so many people afking in pvp now just for effortless level ups.
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>>380835267
Why? That sounds super dumb.
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>MCH
ranged dps
>RDM AND SAM
caster and melee dps

they've fulfilled the dps quota, dancer-healer and blu-tank soon
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Has anyone gotten past pipin
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>>380835267
>Most MMOs only save character data to the servers every 15 minutes or so.

Yoshi-P is a liar. This is not 1999.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abTRxOM81Bc
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>>380835453
notes only say "other means"

>>380835443
ah, cheers
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
FUCK
YOU
YOSHI
YOU
PIECE
OF
SHIT


Pro advice to anyone going into it. If a single person dies you instantly fail.
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>>380835549
Hours ago when there wasn't a queue for his story quest. People that suddenly get past him will get stuck once again in Kugane. Mark my words
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>>380835609
Better pro advice, don't be shit.
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>>380835620
I just want to use my leves for my crafters at least ;;
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>>380835080
They just changed servers and they didn't think of upgrading? They should've started the upgrade when they knew they were rolling in cash during the EU HW server creation. By now the only thing they would have to do is upgrade the Asian servers.
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>>380835687
I was waiting for the npcs to show me where to go and they take so long to talk that he died cause they were fighting the whole time.
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>>380835013
>>380834997
jesus. i geuss aesthetically ffxiv is still top of the bill for mmos but damn that still seems pretty pricey for what you get. havent played since they added ninja so dont really know sotg

>>380834936
jesus calm down sperger. is this what the ffxiv playerbase reduced to?
>60$
name one dork
at least in wow they they either revamped the game completely are added entire continents to the game per expansion. granted that its prudoction costs are considerably lower.
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>>380835403
>I could already keep track of easily
Depends on your class. Some of them had no trouble, some of them had to seek a couple of shitty icons that are constantly jumping around and read the roman numeral INSIDE the icon. I know for a certain RDM would be impossible or a very big pain in the ass without the gauge. Now I wish it showed your dualcast status as well

Zones have been dull since HW, I'm not having any expectations there
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So how bad is this going to be come Tuesday?
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>>380835804
I don't really see how it can get worse but I'm sure Yoshi and the gang will find a way
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How bad are the changes to Warrior, Monk and Summoner? Those were the classes I played the most.
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I'm trying to fish in a part of The Peaks and it is giving me the message that I think there is something in the water but I can't make it out. I'm already level 61, is there any way to make this water fishable without getting past the Raubahn instance?
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>>380835782
True certain classes definitely benefit from the class gauges, I just moreso wish I had the option to revert it as a DRG. And yeah I don't think there's really been any zones in FFXIV that have blown me away, but I liked the feeling of HW zones, they all were fairly different from one another except for Coerthas. I think its just the fact that I'm so limited at the moment because of the MSQ lock that I've only seen Fringes and Peaks, and they both look very similar and have almost the exact same vibe to a certain extent. The music is nice though.
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Was HW early access this shitty as well?
SE really needs to improve their servers asap, this will come back and bite their asses at some point.
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>tfw you beaten Pipin's bottleneck
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>>380835930
All cucked to death.
>>380836017
HW went really well.
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>>380836017
HW EA was actually much smoother. There were issues initially with people being unable to log on for up to two hours after EA went live, but nothing on the level of this.
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>>380836017
Legion went well, Heavensward went well, Morrowind went well...

...Stormblood is shit. WoD 2.0.
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I actually sort of want my money back. Are there any options besides a chargeback?
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>>380836017
It was actually incredibly stable.
They just fucked up big this time.
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No other word from the team? Just flag the duty complete holy fuck Yoshi
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Even ARR queues for that one quest in thanalan wasn't as bad as this.
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>>380836104
>Storywise is given something that wasnt promised at first
>Remove half of the skills from every class for no reason
>Unplayable launch
Its far too accurate of a comparison

>>380836203
There is another one with his adopted son right after and then yet another with alphinaud after that.
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>>380836203
try again later, we're working on it :^)
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This bitch's voice is pretty annoying.
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The first dungeon was a bit boring but damn I liked the second one.
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>>380835930
remember how WAR was the "big health self-heal" tank? now it's just big health
hope you weren't too attached to bloodbath or storm's path damage debuff and heal
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>>380836054
>>380836076
>>380836104
>>380836184

So they literally have no excuse this time since apparently it also affects pre4.0 instances. I doubt SE will do anything since it's the weekend. This is really inexcusable for an MMO especially with a subscription.
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>>380836290
jap or eng?
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>>380836290
Sample? If she has a bitch voice that would make her best girl.
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>>380836316
>remember how WAR was the "big health self-heal" tank?
It hasn't been that for years. Nobody cares about self healing, he was the big damage tank and nothing else the moment Fell Cleave existed
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>>380836425
i-i cared about self healing
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>>380836360
ENG, it just just seems like it doesn't fit her.

>>380836410
Can't really post any without a spoiler, but she's a real cunt, but her voice is almost like a young smoker's. Delivery itself is fine, just not the actual voice.
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>>380836329
>This is really inexcusable for an MMO especially with a subscription.
Guess what? SE's basically been telling us that things are working as intended and both statements they've made regarding the current server status have basically amounted to "come back and try again later".
We will not be compensated for this at all.
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Thanks for the money.
In order to address the server congestion issues, we'll soon be releasing Stormblood story skip potions to the Mogstation.
Please look forward to it.
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>>380836410
https://youtu.be/o1Hdr5XIIQs?t=146
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>>380835549
I just did

gonna play all night and try to get ahead of the pack some
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>>380836425
Healing and the burst mitigation definitely helped carry bad teams if a healer died and needed to be rezzed more so than PLD since you can do it more often.
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>>380836524
WTF
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>>380836517
if it makes me the appropriate level then fine
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>>380836517
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>>380835380
I havn't finished ARR yet, so I just kind of guessed from what spots of plot I knew that the WoL remained a regular, but skilled adventurer, with Hydaelyn only showing up once in a while to help
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>>380836425
Playing with Fell Cleave a few times when I reached HW was great, but I really wish IB got reverted to what it was in 2.x, with Vengeance staying the same obviously and the addition of Rampart. I fucking wish it had the identity of seal healing machine, fucking Fell Cleave memers.
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>When you know your content is boring as fuck, but keep doing the same thing for the new $40 expansion


This is what happens when you praise a company and silence any critics
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>>380835930
>changes to Summoner
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these fucked up instances (along with the queue times you have to sit through every time they disconnect you) are infuriating
fucking square enix
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>>380836410
>>380836360
https://youtu.be/o1Hdr5XIIQs?t=2m26s is her english voice
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>Evil RDM
>His outfit is purple
Ohoho.
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>>380836265
>Remove half of the skills from every class for no reason
Why the fuck do ACNcucks still perpetuate this meme?
Shit skills like Stella got rightfully removed because nobody ever use them. Others are just braindead dots and buffs that exist for the sake of making you press something every 20-180 seconds.
Hilariously in spite of all the bitching from cuckshed jobs, jobs like AST, BLM and BRD got even more skills after the patch.
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imagine if the raubahn cutscene was unskippable
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>>380836750
imagine if the pipin one was unskippable.

It's about 4 or 5 times as long.
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I've been officially awake for more than 24 hours.
And I've been stuck at Raubhn for 18 hours.

Somebody end my suffering.
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Why don't they add a queue to the NPC similar to when trying to log into the game?
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>>380836676
HW's story was alright though until the Ala Mhigo arc happened. Ilbert was still hilarious though and the Shinryu fight was awesome but that's besides the point.
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>>380836745
I liked 3 dots on ast since the instacasts let me play with cards and do other ogcd stuff
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>everyone raging at mr.happy
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>>380836903
Why?
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>>380836872
only 2 of them are instacast 2bh
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>>380836825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udj-o2m39NA
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>>380836485
Spoil it i don't care.
>>380836524
skipped around a bit but i couldn't find it.
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>If you can't make it now you will never make it, since the servers will never be this empty again
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>>380836951
2:26 in the trailer
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>>380836745
I'm a sch. We are fucking gutted along with SMN.
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>>380836825
At this point I don't know who's a bigger idiot, you who are paying for that experience or the devs that can't or won't solve the problem.
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>>380836825
>level RDM to 60
>sleep for 6 hours
>do the quest with no issues now that I'm refreshed
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I'm starting to transition from slightly annoyed to angry.
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>>380836903
How come?

>>380837031
>>380836825
Just keep spamming, it'll end soon maybe
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>>380837001
Devs for not seeing this coming miles away
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>>380836998
Yeah that's why I put ACN there. Even in a game that tried to do away with the class system they're still cucked by changes to the base class
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>>380836903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZqkMWGc0js
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>>380837009

>implying that it's going to be better after you wake up


>>380837054

It's already been a few hours.
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>>380836946
It was still fluid
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>>380836995
Oh thats bad.
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>>380835765
>jesus calm down sperger. is this what the ffxiv playerbase reduced to?
Whether this is /v/ or /vg/, this thread is still a general and general threads will always attract spergs who can't stand criticism of their precious game. The playerbase is really not like this, I promise you.
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>>380837031
I transitioned from a bit angry to outright furious about 3 hours ago. Now I'm livid.
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>>380837104
>implying that it's going to be better after you wake up
Anon, I did just wake up and I cleared the quest just fine.
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>>380836942
>>380837054
cause he rushed cutscenes and got through the instance fights before everyone else
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>>380837114
>The playerbase is really not like this, I promise you.


lolled hard
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>>380836425
I liked self healing.. When I first saw the 5 Fell Cleaves thing my first though was using bloodbath to get loads of health back.

Also bloodbath + vengeance + overpower is god tier aoe tanking, the healer can just dps
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>>380836290
I WOULDN'T FUCKING KNOW

FUCKING INSTANCES

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID. Fucking 100 degrees at night and this is just making me more mad and hotter. I just want to carry the fuck on man.
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>>380837163
Do what you gotta do to win i guess.
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>>380837163
I'm surprised they didn't expect him to do that, what the fuck do they expect.

>>380837201
Don't forget Decimating, that was always amazing.
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>>380837163
He's skipping cutscenes to not spoil anything on his stream. As far as the Cold Steel stuff goes, he did spam it but got in pretty quick still before the leveling hoard caught up.
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>>380837220
I've made a game out of it.
Everytime I get blue balled by a long black screen I take a shot.
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Is HW shit broken too? Should I just wait on resubbing?
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>>380837343
every instance is about a 50-50 chance of booting you out of the server
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>>380837343
If you can find other ways to burn your time I'd honestly suggest waiting about a week.
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>>380837343
Wait a few days so you don't waste them.
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It hasn't even been an hour and I'm already sick of this. I don't know how the fuck people have been at this for hours without wanting to kill themselves.
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>>380837163
>man who makes his living around endgame content did whatever he could to get to the endgame content faster
Truly, the spawn of Satan himself. Does his malice know no bounds?
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People in my LS are bitching about BRD now missing WM and their DPS and hate how they are more utility now and needing to song weave

what the fuck
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>tfw you play on chaos
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>the game has been up for almost 24 hours

Why haven't they just done an emergency maintenance?
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>>380837446
For me it's alcohol and music. At this point it's just muscle memory I don't even have to think about it.
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>>380837510
They probably don't know how to fix the problem. If the servers are crashing, just bringing them up again isn't going to help, they'll just crash again.
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>Play tank
>click raubahn a few times
>dungeon queue
>raubahn
>trial
>raubahn
>dungeon

I'm gonna be 70 before I actually get through this aren't I.
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>>380837572
They have no reason to fix the problem. It's working as intended and they already have the money.
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>>380837510
apparently they've been changing the numbers in the background but its still not working.
>>
Can someone explain actually why the instancing problems have not been fixed yet?
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>Scatter and Moulinet are kind of satisfying

Nice
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>>380837642
Because theres no problem to fix.
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>>380837642
It's gated content and forces the expansion to last longer/more sub money.
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>>380837642
they probably don't know how or they just don't want to
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>>380837510
>>380837642
Incompetent devs. They make way too much money from a game they put no effort into so why would they start now.
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>>380837669
so what's RDM aoe like?

contre sixte when it's up
scatter spam
enchanted moulinet when it's up?
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>>380837759
pretty much
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>AST cards/spread/royal road are no longer buffs
>can't click them off any more
>can't see them on the buff bar, and have to use this garish oversized job gauge instead
The gauges might have been necessary for some jobs, but for everyone else, these things suck ass.
>>
Where do I find Broken Mountain in Wolves Den Pier for the Warrior Quest?
>>
What are SE's options at this point anyways? Other than waiting it out?
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>>380837850
Have it auto complete
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So Susano o was accidentally summoned by us? Kek.
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>>380837850
Remove the cap they put on the fucking instances or give it a queue system at the very least.
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>>380837850
Just have Yoshi fake another apology and tell people to try again later.
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>>380837163
>>380837307
yeah hes done that for last expansion too
stop crying
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>>380837832
it's better that they're on the gauge, because it's more visible and STAYS IN ONE PLACE. the new royal road display sucks ass though, since it's an overly verbose text description

you can resize the gauge

cards can be clicked off. map Undraw to a hotkey
royal road and spread can't, so you have to commit now
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>>380837376
not true
HW works perfectly fine
while stormblood shit was broken, ive been doing hw quests and patch quests all day
>>380837343
dont expect to just jump right in, its a fucking god damn long grind of boring ass patch quests until you unlock expansion, so tedious, like plan to play it 2 days after you resub and expect to be bored to tears
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>people bicker they can't doubleweave after server move
>Yoshida removes next to all offGCDs
>:Prease Calm Down"
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>>380837937
>Remove the cap they put on the fucking instances

No idea why they don't do that. Guildhests, Chocoboracing and TT are still avaiable. Disable them and allocate the capacity for the single player instances
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>>380837009
>implying red mages get refresh in FFXIV
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>>380838058
>works on my machine
it's a recent change
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Who else /addicted to RDM/ here? I thought I wouldn't like it that much after maining BLM since 2.0 but holy shit its so goddamn fun.
>>
anyone have a video of red mage lb3?
>>
does 51-59 dungeons drop weapons for the new jobs?
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>>380835609
does summoning chocobo help on those? I didn't summon mine, cause I only thought about it afterwards when I read this thread.
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>>380838091
no
my fc mates saying its broken for them while i was in a instanced quest area, and doing quest dungeons with parties while they saying its not working for them

its separate servers
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>>380838164
yes
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>>380837626
It's a subscription game not a buy once and your done game. They do need to fix this if they want to continue getting money, lest people drop them for another MMO.
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>>380838087
checkmate
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So what's the fastest way to level without being able to do anything past the MSQ?
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0000 4 0 ESC 0
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>>380838021
It was plenty visible before.
Plus, now you can't see what an AST in your party has drawn.
I'd be fine it they still functioned as buffs since I could just turn the gauge off, but it's a forced thing now, when there's no reason for it to be.
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>>380838218
pvp
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>when you're 68 and been doing lv.60 fates
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
FUCKING FINALLLY
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>>380837832
I don't know why they couldn't just give you the option to show them as buffs too, since that's all they are behind the scenes anyway. I'm so used to looking at my buff bar for Greased Lightning, and I still have to look at it for other shit, that it's jarring not seeing it there.
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>>380837951
No one here is crying over Happy skipping shit anon.
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>>380838308
You have two more after that.
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>>380838308
See you at Pipin
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So what even uses the lilies at lvl60 WHM? Nothing that I'm seeing in the tooltips for my current skills say it'll consume them.
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>>380838432
you get reductions on some of your CDs
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>>380838432
Asylum, Assize, Tetragrammaton. Lillies reduce their CD.
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>>380835080
and why cant they do that now? they upgraded didn't they?
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>>380835930
Summoner feels fine. The rotation's just has a different rhythm to it now, it'll feel really weird at first. Our AOE definitely has taken a considerable hit though. But we get Bahamut so...
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>Grinding PotD on ps4
>Power goes out for like 2 seconds
>wipes all my data on the game
>Have to redownload the game and all the updates
FUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKK
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Good news everyone, the problem seems to be fixed on the japanese server pool!

2 hours ago, that is.
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I'm new to this PotD stuff

Should I do the upgrade thing that removes 30 points from my weapon or armor or is that stuff just for glamour?
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>BLM gauge shows you astral fire/umbral ice duration and countdown to foul
>BRD gauge only shows song duration and procs for Paeon/Minuet
>showing procs for Paeon is useless since it's passive and Minuet has an audio cue at full stacks
>doesn't show straight shot duration
>despite the fact we now have a choice of what to spend straighter shot procs on

Whoever made the BRD one never played the class.
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>>380838694
Glamour/an il235 weapon which was more important in 3.x. Now you can just buy il255 gear in Ishgard. I would keep your aetherpool gear as is
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>>380838529
Think of it as running windows 3.1 on a new computer ya its powerful but the software isnt meant to handle it so it has ljmits you cant remove without a full overhull.
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>>380838674
Same on EU, been fixed for a while
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>>380838793
NAcucks relegated to the 2nd class citizens they are.
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>>380838793
so everyone who matters can already progress.
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>>380838781

Ah ok I didn't know if it made your weapon in PotD better.

Next thing I need to know is if there's any way to easily grind the weapon/armor levels, becuase I want to grind PotD but people in the PF are sayin +60 weapon or higher, and I'm only at ~40 after doing 100+ floors
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>tfw still stuck on a HW mq dungeon that requires 200 ilvl
>>
I can instance fine on Aether at the moment.

But I'm on one of the designated worlds that hasn't been fucked by the queue yet.
>>
>try logging in yesterday
>1500 players in queue
>try logging in today
>1500 players in queue
>try logging in right now
>1500 players in queue

This will only get worse on Tuesday is it? Then I should not have fucking bought the game or subbed for this month if this is what I was gonna get. I am so fucking pissed right now.
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>>380839003
>/v/ guilds
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>>380838790
boo.
that fucking blows
they add in new hairs all the time so i just dont see the logic
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>>380835049
You need two different sen to use the AOE iojitsu, so one gives you the white sen the other one gives you the red sen
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>>380839003
Literally who
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Kugane is absolutely gorgeous
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>>380839003
Seems like Ganon has finally lost it for good!!
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>>380839234
Yoshi lies through his teeth because he assumes people are too stupid to know better.
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>>380839186
Honestly, what did you expect? Especially if you're on the meme servers. I'm on Shiva, one of the largest in EU, and no queue.
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What I don't get about FFXIV is the storyline quest mechanic.

Most of the quests are the most dull, souless shit imaginable that requires you to simply speak to one person, travel slowly across the world to another dude and speak to him, only to return.

But you're REQUIRED to do all of it to even see the endgame or expac content. So there isn't any fun or options to be had while levelling or levelling an alt, you just snooze through the MSQs.

Thats why I dropped this shit like a brick, and I'm sure I'm not alone. Its weeb trash, but it would probably have more users if it wasn't so painfully inaccessable to new players.
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>>380839037
Level another job and get a free set of 200 gear.
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>>380839390
>leveling an alt
Literally unnecessary, so you only ever have to play through it once.
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>>380839390
>weeb trash
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>>380839371
>shiva
>one of the largest
lol
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>>380839390
Ok
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>>380839459
What if I want a different race?
Still applies to your first character, though. No deviations allowed.

>>380839485
It is. You've got the multiple "humans but with animal element" races, the pedobait race, and all the EBIN TOAST IN MOUTH xd moments. Its weeb trash.
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>>380838745
Lots of classes that actually have important buffs to track don't show those buffs on their gauges, instead they still have to constantly glance at their buff bar, only now they also have to glance at their gauge for their other shit. MCH has the same thing with Hot Shot.
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>>380839587
>what if I want a different race?
>procedes to trash the other races
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>>380839519
lol indeed
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>>380839587
This is some lazy bait son.
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>>380839587
Alright, you don't like the game. So what are you doing here? We can shill all you like if that's what you're looking for.
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>>380839390

Once you actually finish that storyline content and play the actual end game, you'll realize it was actually the most interesting and engaging part of the game.

"Game"

FFXIV is honest to god an absolute disgrace to the very concept of an MMORPG. I don't know how they did it, but there's absolutely 0 interaction with other players outside of the final, absolute highest possible tier raid dungeons. Even the actual content that has you playing with other players does not actually have you interact with them-- You're just running through a dungeon along side other people.
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>>380839587
No I mean you're from reddit, and you need to go back there.
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>tfw have barely been disconnected today, on a overpopulated server
>haven't done the new content yet, been working on POTD with my friend
I'm kind of afraid to get spoiled since i'll be behind the curve
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>afking in pvp, occasionally pressing a button to not get kicked
>one faggot sperg notices
>does a votekick on me
>motion ends up being rejected

Eat shit loser. Now let me leech off of you for that sweet free exp.
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Jesus what in the fuck happened to Scholar?
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why don't these fucking monkeys take the game down for maintenance?
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>>380839424
How, where and why
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>>380839768
Nothing, you can now DPS, but we gutted your DPS potential.

You never said you wanted to deal good DPS

:^)

If you wanted that then why not just play a DPS?
>>
>Lyse defends pirates who rapes burn and kill everyone who don't pay
>Why? Because Empire was mean to them
Damn, I really hope this bitch dies
Worst part about expack
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/List_of_Stormblood_Main_Scenario_Quests
Even this wasn't as bad
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>>380839765
>not revenge votekicking him
Gotta teach these plebs their place.
>>
What the hell do i do while i'm downloading the game on ps4, i don't have anything else to do i'm bored as fuck and nobody is streaming.
>>
i definitely wont be pre ordering next expansion
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>>380839792
Level 60 job quests give you a full set of AF2 gear now.
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>>380839624
Thanks for proving my point.
3 of the servers are larger than Shiva.
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>>380839792
This is a "vertical" progression game designed to be enjoyed by as many players as possible, so the less you play the game, the faster you can progress.

The latest expansion has come out now, so to help players ascend through the vertical progression and get to the peak faster, you're now rewarded sets of free, extremely powerful gear by doing the HW MSQ so players don't have to stop and grind dungeons to meet the iLVL requirements and get straight to player all the fun and exciting content surely waiting for them in Stormblood!

You started playing the game too early, though, so you're penalized. You should have waited!
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>>380839870
Play overwatch with me.
>>
>>380839631
It isn't bait.

>>380839639
Why am I in a "blunder of the century" thread if I don't like the game? Really difficult to work that out, tardlet.
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>>380839927
>ilvl 200
>extremely powerful
>>
Well that was a shitty first day as expected, now its time to sleep
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>>380839870
jerk off and cum on your feet
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>>380839927
Well fuck me in the ass and call me Sally.
>>
>>380839825
I can definitely feel the hit for sure. It even feels like our healing took a hit too.
>>380839830
I've not gotten too far and Lyse is already irritating me a little. Especially when she cries 'That's not fair!' It's gonna be a long road having to put up with her.
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>>380833720
just resubbed

what the fuck did they do to cross class abilities

why the FUCK did they completely change bard AGAIN? christ almight
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>>380839971
Power is relative to the dungeon you're doing, of course-- With how obscene the vertical progression is, they have to cap the maximum iLVL you can enter a dungeon with, else players in gear a patch or two past it would be one shotting enemies.

Rest assured, though, the gear they provide you will keep you at the highest level of strength you can muster so you can get right on to all that tantalizing end game content Yoshida provided us with Stormblood!
>>
>>380840075
You made a mistake. Did you at least not buy the expansion?
>>
About to do the second stormblood dungeon, wish me luck, /v/!
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>>380839927
>100 item levels lower than the current best gear
>powerful
>"extremely" powerful
Not to mention you're a retarded nigger if you didn't have the ilevel requires for story dungeons in HW by the time you got to them
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>>380840075
they made cross class abilities cross role abilities, you don't have to level up other classes to get the role abilities and they're pooled for each type of job
they removed some skills, added a bunch of new ones
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>>380839938
I can't use my ps4 dummy that's the issue
>>380840003
I don't know what's happening to my body but iv'e had a shooting pain in my balls for like a week and i can't get hard anymore for whatever reason. It's really concerning because my doctor told me i'm fine. It's a horrible feel when you're so horny it hurts but you can't even get hard to relieve yourself.
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>>380840085
I agree with your general point but do you have to sound like such a faggot?
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>>380839459
>>380839485
>>380839631
>>380839673
People who can't take criticism for their game. You're the reason Stormblood has become a broken mess
>>
People paid 40 dollars for simplified classes and weekly token grinding? lol
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>>380840243
>providing a counter-argument
>can't take criticism
Yeah okay there bud.
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>>380840281
You're a month too soon to be talking about weekly token grinds
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>>380840051
Fun stuff-- Don't worry, you can take advantage of it by just not playing.

If you wait a few months, they'll have a "return to eorzea campaign" where you can play for free for a few days, and thanks to the simplifications of progression they'll have implemented since then, you'll be able to finish all the story content and be caught up with everything actually worth doing within that period, in half the time of actually doing it now.

And as an added bonus, you won't feel obligated or interested in wasting your time with the "end game" content, AKA grinding for tomestones to get better gear that lets you run nothing, or if you're into the tougher stuff, running an extremely difficult savage raid that rewards you with gear that'll let you rerun that same dungeon more easily!
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>>380840123
go fuck yourself
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>>380840203
>I can't use my ps4 dummy that's the issue
Oh, right.
>iv'e had a shooting pain in my balls for like a week
H-have you tried wearing womens underwear? The soft fabric might help relieve whatever pressure you're feeling...
>>
>>380840243
Practically everyone in this thread that actually plays the game is disappointed/upset/angry over this bullshit, but going "I don't like this thing and everyone who does (or at least tolerates it) is a weeb with shit taste" make you sound like a colossal faggot who doesn't know what he's talking about.
>>
>>380840326
I like that they removed the superfluous DoT. It was a weaponskill on GCD that wasn't part of any combo, and just felt tedious to keep reapplying.
>>
>>380840317
not an argument. The only possible counter-argument is you only need one character which is entirely false thanks to caps. Having more than one job relevant at any given time for endgame is impossible until months after the content is released.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abTRxOM81Bc
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>>380840214
I don't, I'm just sour over the direction they've taken the game.

>>380840137
Prior to the expansion, if you just progressed through the storyline, you wouldn't meet the iLVL requirements for the dungeons post the end of the main, 3.0 HW storyline; this was an attempt to slow players who tried to take advantage of the periodic free play return events.

As of 4.0, though, it's as you've described: the MSQ will provide you with all the gear you need to meet the iLVL requirements, both prior to 3.0's completion and throughout the patches afterwards.
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>>380840514
Not an argument needs to be filtered.
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New dungeon looks pretty
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>>380840243
What criticism, I never mentioned anything about this shitty game, I just said you need to go back, you fucking newfag.
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Should i do the MSQs with a DPS or Tank? i want to them with NIN for faster leveling but i really fear the dungeon queue times
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>>380840683
>do the MSQ
lol
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>>380840137
What's the highest ilvl needed to clear HW content? I quit at around 216.
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>>380840425
>is a weeb with shit taste
He never said that and the game is weeb trash.
>tolerates it
Tolerating it without actually complaining to the devs is why the game is in the piss poor state it is. People are extremely submissive to SE and all it's gotten you nice little buttfuck and an emptier wallet. You can't even play the game that has been reported to mostly been rehashed quest objectives.
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>>380840736
il230 for wall
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>>380840736
the last dungeon requires i230
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>>380840663
learn to read my dumb little Square Enix employee.
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>All the people in this thread who have never experienced a rough xpac day

Play more mmos.
This is fucking tame in comparison to some garbage some games need to go through.
>>
>>380840683

DPS for the MSQ and sidequest EXP. Tanks can always get into dungeons easily for leveling. DPS queues are going to be fucked for quite a bit because of SAM and RDM.
>>
Has anyone got up to the Lakishima Primal. (Or whatever her name is)
>>
>>380840809
see >>380839631
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>>380840729
>implying i'm an american fag

kek
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>>380840773
>>380840797
thanks
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>>380839903
Yes, they have less than 1000 players more. Woop de doo.
>>
>made it past the great wall of pipin and raubahn
don't give up anons
having a second monitor and watching something there in the meantime helps I guess.
>>
Is it even possible to get through that instance?
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>>380840826
No it's not. Never before has a mmo cucked it's entire playerbase 5 quests in.
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>>380840873
works on my machine :)
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>>380840870

I've been listening to stuff on youtube.

Still pissed.
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>>380840914
You're right.
Some MMO's cucked entire playerbases at the login screen.
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>>380839771
Because Elemental and i assume the other jap datacenter are working perfectly fine
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>>380840914
How about the ARR launch where characters were stuck "online" and people couldn't log in for a week.
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>>380840992
That is preferable to the situation at had.
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4.1 is going to have some forced quest that references Cold Steel and Raubahn right?

I bet Koji already grinning to himself over it.
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What the fuck were they thinking with their miniscule instance cap? They spent a ton of money on advertising and don't have the server capability to handle the influx of players. It's fucking pathetic

I just spent 13 hours of my day clicking a stupid fucking mhigger hoping I can just continue the MSQ and square has the gall to state it's working as intended
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>>380840992
For a full 24 hours?
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>>380840992
for an entire day? hasn't happened
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>>380840873
>tfw did it twice before some people got in once
And we done now boys SEE YA SUCKAS!
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>>380841084
>A quest chain being locked behind server issues is worse than the entire game being locked behind server issues
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>>380840873
im in yanxia right now, plotting to kill the cron prince with yugiri
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>>380840870
>Every once in a while the screen goes black and I get hopeful
>Immediately hear 200 people get hit with heavy and want to die
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>>380841126
>>380841128
Aww look at the babbies first MMO players.
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>>380840992
Heavensward had maybe 30 minutes of login issues. This MSQ shit has been going on for 24 hours. Go suck your corporate cock somewhere else, shitbird.
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>>380841153
this fucked all instanced content
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>>380841221
As opposed to fucked ALL content?
And most people only had general instance problems outside of that one quest for only a few hours after launch.
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>>380841194
there has not been a case of a launch being broken for an ENTIRE day before stormblood. I am sorry to inform you
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>>380841271
>He wasn't there for the 3102 Crew
lol
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>teleports in front of you
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>>380841194
So thats a no then, thank you.
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>>380841304
hasn't happened
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>>380841269
5 hours of not working is better than "Fuck you its working as intended"
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>>380841271
>launch being broken
You mean a single element of the launch. At least people can play.
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>>380841336
Ignorance doesn't cut it here, friend.
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>>380841271
ARR instances were broken for a week but that should have made Yoshida know better about these launches. Clearly he is a forgetful asshole
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>>380841269
You do realize that this literally leaves people blue balled, right? Long login qeueus or server crashed atleast don't tease you with all kind of shit before simply telling you no. Even worse, the servers seem to be stable, so there doesn7t seem to be any reason for this shit at all.
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>>380841353
they can't since they can't get past the quest. NOTHING else matters now in the game.
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It took me 13 hours to get to Yanxia. I can now call it quits and go to bed.
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>>380841353
>a single element
90% of the expansion is trapped behind this single element
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>>380841269
>Wow I can login
>But you can't do new content you paid for
ok
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>>380841271
>>380841321
Is this just your autistic delusion or are you really this new?
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I quit during 3.0, but RDM looks pretty fun. If I were to buy Stormblood, could I right away start a RDM even though I haven't completed the MSQ?
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>>380840809
What the fuck does SE have to do with you being a newfaggot? Get the fuck out.
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>>380841507
All you need to unlock RDM and SAM is to be level 50
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Welp, scholar is fucking dead, there's nothing interesting with this job anymore when it has literally the same dps rotation as a fucking white mage, and the fun and skill ceiling from stance dancing is gone. The new skills don't add anything whatsoever to the dps rotation or complexity either, just Broil II and a basic dps buff on a 90s cooldown woopie.

Guess I'm done being a healer then.
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>>380841462
Actually answer the question or stop replying.
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>Bad launches are UNPRECEDENTED in the HISTORY of VIDEO GAMES
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>I can actually log in and play with the new jobs
>MMObabs think they know anything about a botched launch
You needs be at least 18 years old to post on 4chan, kids.
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>>380841634
>there are people in your FC who are happy as fuck that CS is gone

It was one of the few interesting things healer had in this game.
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>just finished the level 63 dungeon
Way better than the level 61 one. Heated shots are also fun as fuck
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>>380841715
bad launches are dime a dozen, but this is the worst launch in the medium's history
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I just woke up after 5 hours. Is everything still on fire or did they reduce it back down to only the lines are fucked and it's possible to do other instances?
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>>380841560
Do I even need to buy the expansion?
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>>380841634
Better get used to Noct AST.
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The story has actually gotten pretty good extremely quickly which is nice compared to HW and ARR which didn't get good till the very end.
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>>380841715
Heavensward went fine and most other online game launches with issues this bad had them at least notify it and say they were working on it. All we got was yoshida saying its working as intended
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>>380841775
Yes
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>>380834739
Its not good decision by Square to make SAM rotation so strict you can macro it for optimal performance. Not good for class longetivity.
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Is there another instance right after pipin I should worry about
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>>380841765
Why are you lying, anon?
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>>380841634
I was looking forward to being a SCH as a new player. This is bad news.
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>>380841829
There's one in Kugane
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>>380841829
there's the first dungeon but you can actually queue for that
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>>380841271
>he's never played any WoW expansion at release
This your first MMO anon? Stormblood's launch is minuscule on the larger scope of launch days for stuff like this. Seems like you're new to this whole thing and just bitching just to bitch because of some server issue SE is actively trying to fix as you waste time on /v/ sperging about said issue.
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>>380841726
>just play the new jobs goyim
>it's ok that the main draw of the game is broken
found the cuck
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What do you guys currently do with company seals?
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>People crying about the launch
>They'll bitch and moan for a few days
>In a week they'll forget about it and keep paying the subscription anyway
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>>380841880
Cordials
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>>380841634

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but any other role in the game will be even worse.

Yoshida's goal was lower the skill ceiling of all jobs so that the poor individuals who've decided to play their role at the absolute skill floor won't have to suffer any abuse or hatred from the jerks and meanies who try to play their job to the fullest.

Now, everyone is happy!

You need to stop being so fucking entitled, just because YOU want to play an interesting and demanding class doesn't mean everyone else does and should be expected to.
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>>380841874
>Miss the point
>le goy le cuck haha do I fit in yet
Stop breathing.
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>>380841872
>some server issue SE is actively trying to fix
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>>380841872
this, fucking really.
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>>380841872
>wotlk was fine
>cata was fine
>mop was fine
>wod was broken
>legion was fine

no buddy. blizzard has a fairly good track record compared to scam enix
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Where the FUCK do Australians play? Is it Tonberry?
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>>380841917
How can you even breathe with SE's dick in your mouth?
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>>380841946
Yup.
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>>380841872
Legion worked fine. This is a fucking trainwreck compared to that.
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>>380841634
I don't know what you were expecting. Play a DPS if you want a DPS rotation.
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>>380841892
Like WoD?
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Bring back cleric stance.
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>>380841634
Play a DPS if you're bitching about DPS potential as a healer lmfao
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>One side of people proclaiming the sky is falling and Squeenix is literally satan
>One side sucking Squeenix's cock so hard you can see it coming out their ass

I dunno it's a bad launch but not the end of the world.
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>>380841872
>he's never played any WoW expansion at release

I remember WoD being broken. Really makes you think
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>>380842128
You're going to mash your Stone or Broil button and you're going to fucking like it.
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>>380841872
the only WoW expansion as fucked as stormblood at release was warlords of dreanor, nice revisionist history though
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>>380841781
>The story has actually gotten pretty good

Sure...
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>>380841946
>Tonberry was too full
>Ended up on Typhon

Made some Nip friends at least
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>>380841781
HW was good the whole time, what are you talking about
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>>380841938
>all this bait
Outside of Legion launch going actually smooth, none of those expansion had a great launch either. Hell WoD alone proves you're full of shit.
The login queue and Garrison phasing alone was fucked for almost an entire week. So why don't you stop being a fucking colossal faggot and try again next time.
>>380842091
Yes Legion worked fine but Blizz still had fucking terrible expansion launches that's the whole damn point of this argument. One WoW expansion does not make up for the 5 expansions fucking over players for weeks at a time. SB is only doing marginally worse compared to HW's and is still doing much better than ARR's launch.
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>>380842205
You do the same even with CS
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>>380842176
its been rough, most mmo expack launches are like that though. hopefully they learn from this.
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>>380842212
And even during WoD Blizzard went out of their way to communicate the problems and hooded a new server up.
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>>380841938
>>wotlk was fine
lol wut?
impossible to do quests because of people
Dungeon servers broken
login server were down for hours
Elite quests in the zones simple didn't worked
Fucked up phasing could permantly lock you from future quests in the zone, forever
>cata was fine
Login server was down and it impossible to do quests because of people
But as mmo goes it was decent launch
>mop was fine
Broken dungeon servers
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>>380842251
go to bed shill
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>>380842272
Yeah but you had to mildly time things before and pay attention.

Think of the casuals who weren't using DPS spells to begin with.
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Can you play SAM without level 50?

I really want to into the game but levelling my warrior past 30 was incredibly boring since the MSQ was dull.
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>>380840914
I dunno. WoD was pretty much unplayable for the first few days because they had CRZ switched on in the starting zones.
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>>380842248
What are you talking about it was shit.
Nothing happened till around lvl 58+
Then everything starting at 3.1 was complete bollocks. It was shit mate.
>>380842213
It is if you have gotten past the instance gates.
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>>380842120
>>380842171
The point is they took away all the complexity from the class and healers and general, and made it into fucking white mage you retards
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>killing Yugiri before doma is even close to liberated

what the fuck square
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>>380840826
>expecting good things
Haha those fools
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>>380842251
We get it, Blizzard hit you as a child and now you love Yoshida's tiny dick in your ass as a result.
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>>380842350
Have to be 50 and own the expansions
The story picks up as you go, as does pretty much every class. It is kind of a chore for a while but it ends up being worth it
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We are slowly nearing biodrone territory here...
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>>380842171
>>380842120

Ha ha guys, you tell him!

You're a HEALER! A HEALER HEALS!

What, you want to do some DPS during the long periods of downtime where healing is needed, which are very common in FFXIV due to the extremely simplistic and toned down encounters in dungeons?

What are you, some kind of retard?

God, next you'll be wanting DPS to be able to have defensive cool-downs and be able to temporarily tank attacks, or an off-tank to be able to deal damage while they're waiting for their part of the danc-- I mean boss fight to come up.

Get out of here with this antique game play design, old man.

Why don't you go play a game more suited towards your tastes, like FFXI or some other old MMO that was ruined by a decision to start catering towards the lowest common denominator.
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>>380842251
If Stormblood had some massive software bug or if the whole server were crumbling under the weight of it, that would be one thing.

The reason that this is so bad is that the servers are actually MOSTLY fine outside of these solo instances (disconnections and login queues are frustrating but people can mostly take them in stride), and more importantly, the issues are ENTIRELY confined to an incredibly tiny part of the game, and it would require next to zero effort on SE's part to just do a 3-hour emergency maintenance to make these quests temporarily non-mandatory. Literally everything would be fine if they did that, and yet they refuse to really do anything besides some invisible back-end work that obviously isn't really doing anything (probably only because they took 16 hours to do anything at all instead of jumping on it in the first 2-3).
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>>380842439
>SCH
>Complex
Oh boy, put up 3 dots, Aero, and then Broil spam for until you gotta dot again because the fairy does everything anyways.
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>>380842091
Mostly because Legion allowed people to play the new class a month before launch. Not sure why Square didn't do that.
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>>380842504
*smack smack* better be grateful that there are only 2 lines right now, queuecuck. *smack smack**
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>>380842350
No, you have to have a level 50 class and complete a quest to unlock SAM
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>>380842543
Healers have never been complex or had a DPS rotation, I don't know what you're sperging about.
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>>380835549
Pippin is a roadblock?
Shiiiet, I got through on my first try. The 1v1 with Zenos was some tight shit.
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>>380842569
>hi i never played sch in anything except dungeons
fuck off
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>>380842552
unfortunately, Pipin's instance is pretty vital to the story
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>>380842317
>>380842490
>I have no actual rebuttal
>y-your a shill for SE
Fun fact I'm a Blizzdrone through and through but enjoy some FF14 on the side.
Hell I don't even own Stormblood as of yet. But calling out faggots like you is somewhat more entertaining than the hundreds of Raubahn gate post that's been going on in these threads.
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Yoshida loves ripping off WoW so why didn't they ripoff having a good launch? :^)
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>>380842660
Oh yeah I'm sorry, you Adlo and Indom every so often. Maybe a Lustrate if you're Co-healer can't keep up.
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>>380842696
Yes but the story itself is not vital to the things that most people are annoyed that they can't do.
>>
Here's how we solve this.

Put Aether and Primal on "Emergency Maintenance" for three hours.
End the maintenance at 2h10m for all servers except Balmung and Gilgamesh, but don't announce that it has ended early.
Extend the maintenance on the large servers for another hour.
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>>380842654
you only hit new roadblocks if you are only getting past the previous one when it begins to open up. There was an hour or so yesterday where lots of people could do Raubahn for some reason. Which led to a bunch of people hitting Pippin at the same time creating a new one.
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>>380842702
We're at WoD, silly

5.0 will copy Legion but that will cost you another half of your rotation.
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>>380842650

Have you played a job in the healer role before?

This may sound like an attack upon you, but I'm seriously curious-- Your response makes it sound like you haven't actually played the role, and it'd add a lot more to your statement if you actually have experience with the role.
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>>380842702
>Legion dungeon servers were down for hours
>SB dungeon servers were down for day
Nah, he's real pro
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>>380842767
What the fuck are you talking about? People want to play the story. So yes its vital cause its the thing they want to do.
This isn't wow where the majority of people have never even read a single quest.
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What did she mean by this?
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>>380842459
>Rina Satou dies

Feels bad desu
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>>380839390
>painfully inaccessable to new players.
Confirmed scrub
>But muh time, I wanna jump straight to the raid
I'm glad there's a huge wall that discourages players from just subbing and dropping for a week. There's enough shitters as it is, we don't need any other trendy "flavor of the month" players
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>>380842251
man I remember how fucked BC was. good times.
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>bully not so tough after getting molested
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>>380842698
>l I don't even own Stormblood
a cheap, apologist jew fuck on /v/ posting about something he doesn't even own, shocking
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>>380842847
I don't give a fuck if I have to go back and do a story scene later if it means that I can actually do the dungeons, level up off of something other than fucking level 60 FATEs, unlock the Kugane Levequests, etc.

You can figure out everything you actually need to know about what happens in both Raubahn and Pipin's instances based on the quest that happens afterward anyway.

Nobody would give a fuck about having to go back and do them later once congestion dies down, if they could actually progress past the first two starter zones of the expansion.
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>>380842837
I have, I've beaten Midas and Creator as SCH.

SCH's DPS rotation is just like Summoner without the Dread. You put up dots and spam your one attack, then heal and virus every so often as Roused Fairy and Co-Healer can usually handle most things by themselves with Regens.

Healers really aren't that complex, the most complex we get is seeing where its safe to just spam Energy Drain.
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Why is "But these other MMOs had shit launches!" an excuse for this shitty launch?
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>24 hours later still not fixed
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>>380842947
I don't own it either, but only because early access coinciding with my days off felt too good to be true. Even though I made the correct call, the situation is still depressing.
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>>380842926
hot
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>>380842504
what the fuck are they talking about HW was fine
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>>380843051
it's really hard to seriously defend the current status, so they're deflecting
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>>380843051
Because you're just supposed to eat shit because other people ate shit one time. Bitter faggots just want you to have as bad a time as they did at another MMO launch.
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AWWWWWWWWW SHIT
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>>380843101
HW was not fine at laucnh
It was actually shit tier for a while
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>>380843127
can you start namefagging or put on a trip or something so I can filter you
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>>380843127
stop posting anytime
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I don't expect them to upgrade the servers for congestion that will last like 2 weeks at most, but they really couldn't foresee lots of people all at once trying to do this one instance that gates the whole story? A queue system for story battles could have basically prevented the whole thing.
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>>380843147
The first hour had login issues and then smoothed out. And it had no story instances in the first 30 minutes of the game. Stop deflecting, homo.
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>>380842504
Holy shit. new level of delusional.
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>>380842459
Her character was ugly anyway. Hopefully shit cat follows.
>>
Im at level 30 story quests. How much shit do i have to do until i can be a weeaboo?
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>>380843051
Nobody is saying that it's okay to have a shitty launch. It's just standard to have one by this point and autists are flat out lying about how bad it is.
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>>380843296
>shit cat

Which one?

inb4
>all of them
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>>380842459
If she actually dies, then I'm dropping the game
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>>380843309
weeks
>>
So what exactly happened that made the public opinion of the patch change so quickly? Wasn't information about class changes handed before it was released?
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>tfw great class stuck in a shit game
Scholar was one of the more inetresting support/healer classes I've played. A shame they couldn't be in a good MMO.
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>>380843356
Limpdick apologists like you are the reason games launch broken.
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>>380843356
It isn't standard to have a problem that's this easily fixed that goes on for a full 24 hours without some tangible attempt at a solution.
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>>380843309
15-20 levels ago you could have been a ninja, so none, I guess.
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>>380843403
There's a difference between reading about changes on paper and actually seeing your bar get annihilated in person
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>>380843356
>It's just standard to have one
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>>380843309
about 225 quests
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>>380843441
Well its a good thing they're no longer in the game then!
The new healers are: White Mage, White Mage with a Fairy, White Mage with Cards
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>>380843403
>Wasn't information about class changes handed before it was released?

The extent of it wasn't made public. Like specific abilities and whatnot.
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I love these new servers guys, totally worth fucking up my ping :^)
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>>380843523
I didn't know WHM had shields as their main healing
>>
>literally fucking 3am after first day
>there's STILL a million people crowding Raubahn
Do these people not sleep or something? Who the fuck is still awake shouldn't everyone sleep now mostly? What is wrong with this playerbase? I'm a NEET and even I'm not on this game 24/7 or playing all night for two days onit.
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>>380843026
Ah, the raids where they toned down the difficulty, due to almost the entire raiding scene quiting after the difficulty of Gordias made them realized it's not worth doing the raids if the only reward is dyeable versions of the easy mode gear.

Anyway, the difficulty in DPSing as a healer isn't the rotation; No job in this game has ANY difficulty in DPSing whatsoever. Just the fact that jobs have rotations should tell you everything you need to know about the complexity of dpsing in this joke of a game.

The difficulty is in managing your main role, keeping the raid alive, while trying to pump out as much DPS as possible in the brief moments you can without over extending your MP or putting too much stress on the tanks.

Unlike every other role, a healer trying to DPS would actually have to pay attention to what their doing, and unlike some classes, actually look at elements on the screen instead of hitting a sequence of buttons and auto-running towards the target.

I literally cannot understand why anyone would support them making their job less interesting to play by removing that aspect. If you'd rather not deal with that, why not just go do something you'd enjoy instead of ruining it for the players who do want to do it?
>>
This morning my power went out while playing on my ps4. It wiped all my data and when i tried redownloading it i left for 10 minutes and came back to find my ps4 in rest mode. Now on the mog station and in the client it says my account is inactive. WTF wat do? I hate this shit just got fucked over my random chance and now i got cucked out of $55
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>>380843397
>>380843517
Well shit, thankfully i'm NEET and have no plans of reading much of these quests.

>>380843471
i only liked naruto for the porn
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>>380843592
People from different regions like Australia playing.
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>>380843309
For Samurai you have to own Stormblood and reach level 50. No story requirements
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>>380843250
All they really needed to do was prevent the congestion from happening in the first place, which they easily could have done by simply rubbing two brain cells together and figuring out that they should allocate a big portion of the game's instancing servers toward the two mandatory solo instances in the first hour of the expansion.

Did you see their original comment on the situation? I'm only lightly paraphrasing when I say that their take on it was "We have plenty of instances available but we're only letting a few of them run these story duties because we want this launch to be really gentle on our servers."
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>>380843532
>>380843476
Not sure what bar means but yeah i get you. Kind of shitty of them to not release a proper changelog or something like that but then again it's been so long since I played an MMO that i don't remember how patching used to work
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>>380843621
You can only download with sub
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>>380843658
Wrong, you have to beat Ultima Weapon
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>>380843629
read the main story.
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>>380843512
And now we're back to this being the literal first MMO you people have ever seen.
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>>380843648
Does Australia do anything good for anyone ever? I thought they were even shittier british people quarantined on a death island, why are they allowed to interact with the rest of the world?
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>>380843629
those two answers are incorrect, that would be the amount of time it would take to get to weebland. You could easily hit 50 and unlock SAM in a couple of days
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How the fuck does the world entering queue work? If I've attempted to get in, am I in the queue? Do I have to keep spamming to stay in the queue? How hard would it be to just have an 'enter when ready' option?
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>>380843709
This is not 2007.
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People rolling str accessories on tanks again?
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>>380843709
How long until bad launches from X years ago have no bearing on this conversation? Yoshida and co. are the ones who promoted these amazing and new California servers.
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>>380843767
It does enter you immediately when you're queue is up.
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>>380843250
>>380843668
Basically, Yoshida is cheap. Which I bet is due to the low subscription rate in the West. I'm guessing the JPs get 3 DC because they more reliable subscribers.
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>>380843629
You'd be interested to know that ninjas were wildly popular in western pop culture before Naruto ever existed. Like, way back in the 80's and shit.
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>>380843523
So you never played a healer before or after SB
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>>380843852
Scholar played nothing like white mage before this
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>>380843767
There is, leave it on the "This World is currently full." message and it'll automatically update with your place in the queue.
That being said, they could have made it a little more evident.
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>GUYS, IT'S NOT A REVAMP
>THAT'S JUST KOJIMEME LOCALIZATION
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>>380843709
Heavensward did not launch in this bad of a state and until you address this you are full of shit, period.
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>>380843648
Australia's on tonberry m8
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>you will never get past rhalger's reach around
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>>380843678
Hotbars I mean. And we did we a changelog of sorts (though not a finalized one until recently). It's just that certain things can only be determined in person. At least RDM is awesome
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>>380843597
Because nothing changed other than a few less spells and CS.
I still do mostly Broil spam from 3.0+ so this ain't anything different. The thing that does suck is how gimped our AoE is but our new skills are promising and I want to see what the new savage is as well.

Also Managing your role as a healer isn't hard. The fights are scripted as fuck. You know when to heal exactly in fights when you need to. The hardest part of healing is honestly prog, but thats everyones hardest part.
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>>380843681
I have a sub i just bought one AND CUSTOMER SUPPORT IS OFF FOR WEEKENDS FUCK
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>>380843927
I'm in a linkshell with atleast 80 other Australians on gilga
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>>380843760
Oh sweet, thanks anon. now what about Red Mage?

>>380843705
no i dont wanna you cant make me. is it actually worth reading?
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>>380843927
And Gilgamesh and Balmung. I'm on a dead server though which is why I'm baffled there's people on. I know people who are east coast cucks and they're still on right now when I logged out, and have been on all day. Blows my mind people can stay on all day for 10 hours spamming Raubahn's dick.
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I keep coming back to this shit MMO, getting BiS or close to it, and then quitting because the treadmill is so fucking blatantly shit. I don't know how you people keep subbed for more than a month at a time.

You're either gearing 3+ classes which sounds awful, or don't have a group with half a brain capable of clearing the ez mode pattern bosses.
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>>380843831
Because they know they can't keep players playing consistently. They know the number will drop so why upgrade. There has been an influx of new players, sure, but the core still consists of the same people and that core will not expand.
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>>380843358
Ignore him, he is some hardcore midlander player who abhors all other races that are more popular than his and endlessly shitposts these threads any time anything relating in any way to miqotes or au ra is posted, and often times when nothing is posted about them.
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>>380844004
RDM is the same, once you hit 50 it's yours to take. As for the story ARR is shit and don't bother but HW is actually solid
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>>380844004
in my opinion the main story is worth reading.
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>>380844084
The funny thing is they wasted money on a server move to California and now the game is even worse from a network point of view.
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>>380844127
>>380844142
>story is shit dont bother
>i think its good

Sweatingman.png

Guess i'll feel it out on whether to read the ARR story or not. That being said thanks anons, hope you guys have fun!
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How much does square pay this one retard to yell at everyone about how normal this is?
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It's mostly Europe that's actually dying. I wonder what the population will be 3-6 months down the line for them. Only 1 server that really feels alive.

NA subs are still more than good enough to sustain and get attention.

I feel like everything is going to be so much worse in terms of scope from here on out.
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>>380844257
Oh I am.
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>>380844268
It's 3:30 am at Square-Enix North American HQ so a decent amount apparently.
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>>380844249
Look, they make millions of dollars in a couple of months just from fantasia and server moves, I saw that data recently. Money is not the issue, they're just either lazy or lack the manpower with expertise.

>>380844281
>It's mostly Europe that's actually dying
Can confirm this.
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>>380844084
Not even remotely true. MMOs have ridiculous player churn and XIV is no exception. New players are constantly coming in while old players are constantly leaving.

They aren't going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars upgrading the servers for congestion that will only last a few weeks. The servers are more than adequate to sustain the game's normal level of players, but no shit that level increases tenfold when an expansion launches.
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>mfw people have literally be doing this for hours and hours and hours
>mfw no signs of this improving at all
>mfw Yoshi is just going to let this happen until people finally stop caring about Stormblood and forget about the game entirely
>mfw all those returner plants immediately getting cucked out of $55 for this and quitting immediately
lol
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>>380844281
maybe they'll realize that the FFXI model was more enticing on the long term than world of Chinkcraft
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>>380844383
I'll be amused if people really do quit just because of congestion at an expansion launch.
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Japs confirmed for the niggers of asia
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>>380844417
Theme park MMOs are easy money and if this launch is any indication they don't want to think too hard on how to get that easy money
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>>380844383
WORKING JUST AS INTENDED
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Man I want to play, but I have a sinking feeling that I'll hit a brick wall made up of no content in a couple weeks and end up quitting again.
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>>380844382
You just confirmed what I say, new players come, leave, new come, but there's a core which is stagnant pretty much unless they fuck something up epically. I started playing last Christmas and I was not under the impression that there was a lot of new players, levelling zones were mostly empty, even somewhat close to SB launch, at least on EU.
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>>380844503
But anon this is the FIRST time this has happened game is literally KILLED. No game has ever had a launch this bad before and the game is dead now lol cucked. Trust me I've been on /v/ for a week now.
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>>380844383
You don't want to be too harsh on our new servers right :^)
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>>380844503
I wouldn't be surprised with all the entitled crybaby shouting at Castrum Oriens and the OF in general. They'd think they be getting revenge on Yoshi or something.
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>>380844605
thats exactly what will happen, theres no extra side content atm so youll be stuck doing the same shit you were doing in 3.5
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>>380844608
are you that fat guy that's always on the FFXIV streams sweating and thinking about yoshida's tiny penis
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>>380844606
Yes but this "core" that stays subscribed through everything is not even a majority of the players. The majority of players are part of the churn that come in, play for a while, then quit.
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Things looked grim for us after Carteneau, didn't they?
Things looked grim for us after Carteneau, didn't they?
Things looked grim for us after Carteneau, didn't they?
Things looked grim for us after Carteneau, didn't they?
Things looked grim for us after Carteneau, didn't they?
Things looked grim for us after Carteneau, didn't they?
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>>380844383
>mfw cleared the instance gating
>just did the first dungeon
>3 commendations
>instant queue time
I'm having good times don't know what you guys are talking about.
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>>380844605
I repeat this every couple months. I was only able to play for more than a few months when I found an FC I actually enjoyed being in. When it got destroyed due to a whore I never found a group like that again but I keep coming back and trying.
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>you can't see the other astrologians cards in the party hud anymore
Who the actual fuck thought this was okay
>>
>>380844836
is PLD fun now? SCH is so butchered that I can't decide what to play while Stormblood is downloading.
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>>380844605
>instead of making dungeons more interesting they're just axing them entirely, giving us 1 dungeon onlyl
>hunts reimplemented as the way for getting tomes
Just don't think about it anon. It'll be over soon. Smell the roses as they say, it'll be over soon.
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>>380844782
Sure, but my point is consistency. Can you guarantee that the number that leaves will be covered by the number that comes in consistently? The core is actually being milked because people buy loads of stuff from Mogstation.

The game has sold 10 million copies, there are 450 000 active players.
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>>380844932
If you didn't like the playstyle before you won't like the playstyle now. Better numbers really only feels nice to people who stuck with pld but to those who haven't played it before you won't notice a thing. So I'd say most people will probably still find it boring.
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>Actually started not too long ago
>Have to mandatory dungeons and trials that nofuckingbody wanted to do before the expansion and now even less

Well, it's no surprise, but I wish there were some kind of options to do it even with bots
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>>380845039
That active is old and off.
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Since I'm trapped behind this crazy bug anyway, are there any newer players that want help running older content on Coeurl?
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>>380845101
I'm not playing stinkbarf, but if you're a girl in game, join a random shit FC, and ask a nerd to walk you through them all in like an hour.
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>>380844651
>Wanting the product that you bought to function means you're entitled
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>>380845126
That's the numbers for May 2017. Sure, a couple of hundred thousands may have returned for SB but I wouldn't say the active number is anywhere close to a million.
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>>380845001
At level 70, you get the following list of content:
Two dungeons
Hunts

to run in order to get better gear for the release of Omega easy mode in two weeks.

Then you run Omega easy mode for two weeks to get better gear for the release of Omega Savage, which gives you better gear that serves no purpose.

2 months after that, you'll be able to run the 24 man raid for worse gear than Omega Savage.

3 months after that, it'll restart back to running two dungeons.


This is exactly what you can expect in terms of content and progression from right now for the next year in a half to two years.

If I'm wrong on anything, someone please let me know.
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>>380845126
So it's even lower? kek
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>>380845238
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How long until they just merge all the euro servers into just 3? 2 of them would still be dead.
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>>380845126
It's off and it's probably lower, yeah.
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>>380845276

You missed a couple primals that drop a recolored mount with a ridiculously low drop rate sprinkled in.
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>>380845276
You're making me not want to buy this stupid shit expansion now.
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Is there some kind of bug with meditate? it doesn't work unless I get hit.
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>>380845276
Seeing it all listed out like that already makes me want to quit. Did Yoshi realize people could finish the MSQ within early access and then get a refund on the game? Because doing that just crossed my mind.
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Well, 5M queues for 72 man Shatter this early in the morning ain't bad.
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>>380845583
Don't buy it because what that anon said is 100% correct, I wish someone had told me that before I shelled out money for ARR+HW and 4 months of subscription. Honestly, I'd still be playing this game if it didn't have a monthly subscription. I moved on to a b2p mmo and I feel more relaxed, there's no rush to get the most of my sub or anything.
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I've lost control of my life
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>>380845276
>knew it was going to be like this
>cave in and buy it anyway
>reading this makes me regret it already
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>>380845419
You're right, I did miss those.

I also forgot to mention that everything past the two dungeons is optional-- you can just grind the weekly capped tomestones and end up with gear that's 99% as good as the best possible gear you can get from Omega Savage, which, once again, serves no purpose.

>>380845583
Please do not buy the expansion. Watch a stream of the storyline or something if you're interested in the story, but purchasing the expansion or sub-time will only encourage the developers to continue onward with the exact same system of progression, and embolden other MMO developers to do the same, haven seen the success Square-Enix is having with it.
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>>380845689
That must be why he's not doing anything to fix this Early Access.
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>>380845923
They wouldn't let you refund anyway. There's plenty to be upset about without purposefully coming up with more reasons to be mad, you sperg.
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>>380846067
>They wouldn't let you refund
They don't have a choice though?
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>>380844383

there are literally no advantages to playing on a high pop server
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>>380844605

>implying yoshi doesn't know this already and is gating people behind technical errors because of it
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nice expansion hype
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ded game
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>>380846681
Arent these just channels? Should've had them ages ago
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>>380846681

>memeshot of areas nobody can access
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRISdYOQ5o0
This theme though
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>>380846617
Good maybe those fuckers let me through.
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