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Master Chief vs Samus Who would win?

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Master Chief vs Samus

Who would win?
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It's important that Samus win to show that women are capable of defeating men.
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>>380817647
i thought haloid settled this a while ago
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Master chief is a girl
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>>380817647
Pretty samus is just a human with a powerful suit and chief is a super human with a powerful suit.
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>>380817949
Space bird DNA, son. Samus ain't nothing to fuck with
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>>380817647
Factpile solved this more than a decade ago. Metroid's universe has just ridiculously higher power.

Besides, Master Chief gets killed by one rocket in Halo. Samus carries more than two hundred of them and depending on the game she can fire them as fast as she can pull the trigger. Chief gets fucking wrecked.
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>>380817828
The creator of was cucked to death (literally). Pretty sure his opinion got invalidated.
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Samus has stupid anime tier bullshit that happens outside the games. Nips can't into sci fi.
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my bet is on master chief
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Cortana hacks into Samus' suit and removes all her authorizations
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>>380817647
This guy
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>>380818152
Explain this meme
I keep hearing it
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>>380818486
>has shit girlfriend
>so shit the Rooster Teeth crew wouldn't take her, despite having no standards and hiring anyone
>she loves cats
>Monty is allergic to cats
>has procedure that might cure his allergy
>girlfriend pressures him into it
>dies
>gf sells all his stuff
>keeps the cat
>within a month is sleeping with a new guy
>in the same place they lived in together

Anthony Burch points Monty Oum and says "thank god I'm not that guy"
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Can master chief run at supersonic speeds? Can he run through molten rock and completely ignore viscosity and convection? Can he literally fly by somersaulting infinitely? Can he tank getting stepped on by a robot the size of an office building? Can he kill people with black holes and antimatter? Can he fire missiles like water?

No nigger he can't.
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>>380818925
THAT'S how monty died?
#killallwomen
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>>380818925
Jesus Christ
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>>380818925
dont forget about selling cosplay photos
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>>380818925
>MGTOW is stupid they said
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Book Master Chief or Game Master chief?

This is an important distinction.
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>>380817647
I believe his name is Metroid, Anon
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Remember this shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-mR79GErU
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me
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Master Chief vs Samus, both without suits

Who wins now?
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>>380818925
>read this
>remember the reason we will never get more HSOTD is cause the guy's wife made him stop
Seriously, why haven't we replaced women with synthoids yet?
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>>380819801
>book Chief
>Samus conveniently loses all her powers
>conveniently gets down to 1hp
>Chief conveniently finds her at her weakest moment
>conveniently is able to kill her

I can see this being something that matters. Samus has shit luck, something Chief canonically has in abundance
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>>380820025
In that case easily MC, Samus is very strong and fast and can jump like 20 feet in the air from a standing position but John is a cyborg murder hulk that can throw a car, he gets his hands on her once and it's over.

MC is physically stronger in general but he just doesn't have the firepower to stop her.
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Samus is world destroyer level by the end of Super, so Samus.
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>>380820025
that would be some rough scissor sex
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>>380820025
Assuming Samus can keep her distance, then her.
But if he's close enough, there's a puss that's gonna be crushed... literally.
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>>380818925
not gf, it was his wife right?
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>>380817647
Samus would beat the everliving fuck out of Master Chief
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>>380817647

RIP Monty Oum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihH88jPOTMw
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>>380817647

they fuck and birth Boba Fett
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>>380817647
>Master Chief vs Samus
>Who would win?

Now that the companies, sans Sony, seem more willing to play ball with each other, a co-op game with both of them would be cool.
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>>380820395
>Samus is world destroyer level by the end of Super
What the fuck are you talking about? She literally pushed a button and the planet blew up how the fuck does that make her world destroyer powerful?
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>>380818925
>Anthony Burch points Monty Oum and says "thank god I'm not that guy"
It's true that both screwed up there lives for the worst with bad decision making, but monty isn't in anthony's league
>dies doing everything his girlfriend wanted
>when they were in a relationship she never cheated on him until he died, so technically he isn't a complete cuck
>skilled in animated fighting choreography
>actually created and left a legacy. say what you will about rwby but it's a worthwhile ip
then there's anthony
>110% his decision and fault to get cucked
>he is the reason for his own divorce
>heavily relies on sjw pandering as writing with strong sjw ideology
>never created borderlands and has no legacy of his own except being the greatest cuck
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>>380820025
MC easily.
The fucker is built like a tank without the suit, and is fast as fuck. He would OPM the shit out of here
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>>380820679
>what if Master Chief was a girl haha
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Master Chief might be much stronger but Samus has tanked ridiculous shit, if we are talking game mechanics over lore there basically is no instant-death scenario for her outside of other m, which isn't canon anyway. I think this one boils down to the battlefield, Samus is not really known for fighting in melee but her weapons are on a hilariously higher level than Chief can even dream of. Spazer beams might completely ignore his armor and shred his organs in one shot, or the ice beam missile combo might be as effective as it is on metroids. What is the strongest firearm Chief can field against her? Spartan laser? Can he possibly hope to be able to track her with it and hit her enough times to kill her before he is melted through the floor by a torrent of plasma? Chief's a badass but he gets fucked up by Samus, no contest.
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>>380821027
>if we are talking game mechanics over lore there basically is no instant-death scenario for her outside of other m
She can be hurt by plants and small bugs in game so her suits strength is kind of irrelevant.
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>>380820920

Fuck off with the cult of Burch.

That dude is dead, Burch is just some fag who is probably making more money than anyone in this thread.
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>>380821027
I say it would be really close. Samus has some very OP shit, but so does the Chief.
Power Drainer, Bubble shield, Luck and he is durable. He even survived falling from orbit, TWICE.
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>>380817949
Nah, she's a genetically modified super-soldier as well, with tech that might as well be magic to boot.
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>>380817647
Fully powered up Samus would handle fully powered Master Chief without much issue. She's just faster, stronger, and has more firepower.
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>>380818349
That would be a pretty big feat for Cortana since Samus's suit is Chozo tech and they are right on the edge of energy transcendence in terms of technology.
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>>380817949
>just a human
HAHAH
She's anything but human
Her genetic code is such a fucking mess you'd be blessed to realize what she was to even start.
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>>380819185
Can Metrod run at supersonic speeds at the start of any game? Nope. She gets wrecked before she can even find her first energy tank.
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Chief has 99 luck stat. He wins by samus tripping into a pit of molten lava while losing her authorization for varia suit because Adam got drunk and forgot to fill out the paperwork.
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>>380817647
Gameplay-wise Chief is a lot less sturdy than Samus even when she doesn't have upgrades. Samus also has a track record of 1v1ing some pretty huge and powerful fuckers, though Chief might be more adept at actual combat strategy. Something that could make things swing in Chief's favor is that we've seen most of Samus' feats through gameplay, whereas Chief has some more plot armor underneath his normal armor.
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>>380821907
Considering that Chozo go full on force ghost when they die, they might have figured it out, too. That easily puts them above the Forerunners.

And they figured out how to beat their version of the Flood without sterilizing large portions of the galaxy
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i'm gunna go with the one with technology so advanced it's literally indistinguishable from magic who can run through walls
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>>380822070
Other M isn't canon, unless you want to say every one Metroid game isn't canon instead.
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>>380820995
yeah thats stupid i wouldnt want to hold her hand or anything haha
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Samus could easily freeze beam and then do a melee takedown from behind. MC has a very sensitive back side when it comes to getting punched.
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>>380822172
>they might have figured it out, too.
They did. There's lore in the Prime games where the Chozo talk about "parting the veil" and leaving this reality behind. That's what happened to them. They didn't go extinct, they ascended to a higher plane of existence.
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>>380822460
Fuckin' magical space-birds.
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>>380822460
>they ascended to a higher plane of existence.

I swear there is a bit of lore somewhere that outright says exactly that.
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rip thread :(
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Can we take a second and just appreciate how fucking cool the Chozo are?
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>>380823028
bumping
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>>380823014
>>380822460
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but that stuff was only in the North American version of Metroid Prime released on Game Cube. Someone at Nintendo didn't really like it (not sure if it was Sakamoto or Miyamoto), so in the Japanese, European, and Wii releases, those logs were changed to lore more consistent with what had already been established in Super and other sources. So, sadly, magic space birds isn't really cannon; they just had incredibly advanced technology then got dead by space pirates when Mother Brain turned. Also Phaazon, but that only killed the Talon IV colony.
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https://youtu.be/BOnIB9lUpMM
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>>380822460
They took the bogpill
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>>380823323
>>380823336
>always wanted a spinoff showing how the Chozo built their civilization or a spinoff showing how they raised and taught Samus
>we get Federation Force instead

They could do so much more back story shit with those magical space birds.
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Can someone explain in fiction can someone ascend reality and how it's usually done?
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>>380823702
Fucking this.

Id even settle for a short movie of sorts or unlockable content that goes into this stuff.
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>>380823519
I don't recall there being any changes to the Chozo in those. They only changed references to the Space Pirates experimenting on the Metroid Prime.
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my brother always beats me in smash with zelda and i play metroid
his stupid bombs move cant be won with metroid.
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>>380823895
I could totally be wrong, it's been a while. I could have sworn that they removed all the references to transcendence, though.
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>>380823820
Plz respond
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>>380820025
Chief would have the edge until they realized fighting was dumb and fucking would be a way better use of their time.

Assuming this is hand to hand.
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>>380823847
The Luminoth thought the Chozo were so fucking cool, they tried to emulate what they did on aether and ended up making Sanctuary Fortress, the goddamn coolest shit in the Prime Trilogy.

It's a shame the dark world was such a pain in the ass because Prime 2 had some amazing stuff.
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>>380824097
Spartan II's have a diminished sex drive.
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>>380823820
You'd have to seriously fuck with physics and convert your brainwaves into a wave on the Electromagnetic spectrum, and how it creates a sentient form of radiation.
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>>380824327
Samus has enhanced sexual appeal.
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>>380818925

The fuck did you get this info from? I been investigating his death for years and I came up with squat.
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>>380820205
>cyborg murder hulk that can throw a car
I deeply enjoy the way you worded that. Something very satisfying.
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>>380820205
How come the gameplay of Halo is never indicative of Chief's ability, then?
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>>380823820
That usually means 'turning into pure energy' which realistically speaking means nothing. If you do that then you're just energy. You won't have form, consciousness, or anything.
In short; however they want to do it.
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>>380823820
It's technology so far advanced it's indistinguishable from magic.
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>>380818925

Suddenly I don't want a gf as bad anymore. Empty loneliness is now replaced with rage and disgust.

Monty deserved better
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>>380821210
Plants and bugs that can literally tear through Galactic Federation soldiers.
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>>380823820
There's no hard rules for transcendence. Many involve shedding material forms, as purely spiritual forms are often perceived as superior by enlightened cultures. Others go a step further and merge all beings into a single entity, whether it being a planet-sized intelligence or a giant puddle of Tang.
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>>380826190
Why am I seeing a massive upsurge in Eva posting the last 48 hours? Is it just anons all saw one Eva thread and ran to read about it on the wiki and now they're posting it themselves?
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>>380825415
>Hefts the turret that's usually bolted onto the back of a car and can still move relatively quickly
>Spartan Lasers are originally designed to be mounted on Pelicans, hefts one around like it's nothing.
>Depending on the player has 100% accuracy rating and is capable of a no-hit run.
>Able to heft a gravity hammer like it's nothing.
>Survive falls from huge heights

It's easy to forget that in 99% of videogames canonically the player character never "loses", because every death is retconned by checkpoints. That applies to any character though, regarding chief specifically I'd imagine it's because there's never a story reason for chief to need to throw a car or tear something limb from limb when he has more efficient methods of achieving those goals.
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>>380817647
Neither!! They hold hands and kill aliens together.
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>>380826383
Let's not forget he flips the warthog like it's nothing
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I've never played a Metroid. Where is the best place to start?
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>>380826920
Metroid
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Samus. Easily. It's not even a question.

Chief is a superhuman war machine with insane reflexes, speed, strength, etc.

But samus literally kills crazy eldritch dimensional beings with magical lasers (in prime). Her suit is crazy.

And in super metroid she can basically fly and shoot super rockets out of every orifice
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>>380826920
Zero Mission -> Super (for 2D)
The Prime trilogy for 3D.
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>>380826920
Other M, that way you get the worst over at the start.
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>>380826920
Super Metroid or Metroid Prime.
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>>380827040
Is Other M even canon?
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>>380826920
Metroid then Metroid II. If you like the gameplay chances are you will play all of them anyways. They aren't very long.
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>>380818349
Samus' suit is capable of counter-hacking per Prime. It also basically auto-hacks tech around it based on the various log entries and can pull in all kinds of sensor data to come up with things like enemy weaknesses
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>>380827127
It is to Suckamoto.
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>there were only 8 years between Super Metroid and Metroid Prime
>it's been 10 years since Metroid Prime 3
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>>380823702
>be the chozo
>be an all mighty race of superior technology and intelligence
>create technology and medicine capable of letting them live long lives in perfect health and let their ambitious desires get ahead of ration and logic
>create a race of robot people for fun and leave them starved for energy and stranded on their own planet to die alone and forsaken
>forget to breed because fuck what is procreation if you can live forever
>have in hand in creating two of the biggest catalysts the galaxy has ever seen
>capture baby orphan from her own homeworld to clean up all their fuck-ups in life by training her to be a powerhouse wrecking ball but hey at least they left her a bunch of cool shit to do it with
>give the galaxy a big middle finger and ascend to a higher plane of existence to run from all their problems

The Chozo were assholes and deserve nothing.
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>>380826383
>Spartan Lasers are originally designed to be mounted on Pelicans, hefts one around like it's nothing.

Marines handle them just as easily.

>Survive falls from huge heights

That's an understatement, he survives planet fall after dropping from the Ark at the start of 3. That's more than a "huge height".

>>380826849
>Warthog
>Not the 20+ ton tank

I forget, was there a trick to getting the Elephant to fall over and that too had a, "Press X to flip" prompt? Not quite canon, but worth mentioning.
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>>380826383
One of the books mentions some bullshit number for the force a Spartan can punch with. A fa/tg/guy did the math and it turns out that they could punch their way through an Abrams tank.
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>>380817647
What if Halo and Metroid had sex?
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>>380826849
He flips the Scorpion like it's nothing.
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>>380817647
Do they get everything?
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>>380817647
Kaptain King
>can hold 2 weapons plus grenades with limited ammunition
>can run and jump at Olympian levels
>has a pretty tough regenerating shield that can stop bullets but not sustained gunfire or even a missile
>lifetime of combat training
>blue cyber waifu to help with strategy and intel

Samus "Aryan" Aran
>can hold a crazy number of weapons, basic weapon is upgradable and can shoot an unlimited amount of times, only ammo is usually only a few hundred missiles and bombs
>Can run and jump at super human levels and becomes almost unstoppable when she runs for a sustained period
>shield tanks give her a butt load of health, and shes been seen shrugging off everything from missiles to lasers to radioactive goo. Does not regenerate
>Lifetime of combat training and a scanning function that gives her intel on anything in view

the winner is clear
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>>380817949
They're both superhuman.
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>>380818096
>Metroid's universe has just ridiculously higher power
No it's not and don't even give me that gravity bullshit.
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>>380827917
>can run and jump at Olympian levels
While I still give this one to Samus, that is a bit of an understatement. Even out of his armor he is super humanly strong, with his musculature heavily modified, and his skeleton being near Wolverine tier in terms of strength/reinforcement. I would even assume he has her beat in terms of sheer strength, though admittedly the kind of game Metroid is doesn't really give Samus much opportunity to show off her peak feats of strength.
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>>380827419
>A new Metroid Prime is being made for the Switch
>And a 2D remake of Metroid 2
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>>380821210
>so her suits strength is kind of irrelevant.
or maybe those are some really fucked up bugs? that's how high metroid's power ceiling is. even minor enemies are flood tier.
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>>380827646
Where's Chief?
He isn't even in this picture retard.
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>>380828301
Why the fuck would they be fighting OUTSIDE of their suits

Dummy
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>>380828347
I want the new Metroid Prime to have a different name than Metroid Prime 4. I want that because I hope it is the same kind of leap there was from Metroid to Super Metroid. I want the Metroid version of BOTW.
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>>380827587
>I forget, was there a trick to getting the Elephant to fall over and that too had a, "Press X to flip" prompt? Not quite canon, but worth mentioning.

Yes. If you managed to flip an Elephant over it said something like "Press X to flip.. wait how did you do that?" or something along those lines.
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>>380827665
He flips the Elephant like it's nothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgP0kWwaMJU
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>>380827578
Aside from literally saving it more than once withing Samus' own lifetime (giving the federation a fighting chance against the Space Pirates, until Mother Brain's betrayal and making the Metroids to keep the X from wiping out the galaxy), and countless times when and entire caste of their species dedicated their entire lives to keeping the galaxy safe.
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>>380819185
He can fall from space, run at terminal velocity, ram right through a banshee with out his shields even bursting, can blow through buildings, fast enough to tackle a Banshee, can flip 205 tons, can slap an anti-tank missile and deflect it, can dodge bullets, plasma, and hardlight, is unaffected by the logic plague, his luck is supernatural like. Chief is kind of broken, not Samus isn't either.
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>>380817647
master who?
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>>380820025
It would be a draw, both are genetically cybernetically enhanced superhumans.
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>>380828449
It provides context to his strength. Even outside his armor he is leagues above even peak natural human performance and his armor multiplies that by a lot. IIRC normal humans can't even wear Mjolnir armor because without the augmentations it literally shatters their bones and shreds their muscles and ligaments.
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>>380828550
Damn.
Chief loves flipping shit.
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>>380820395
Samus never physically destroyed a planet before.
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>>380820025
Wouldn't Samus without a suit just be naked, since doesn't the ZS still augment her physical abilities?
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>>380822172
Flood can infect slipspace and the Forerunners were casual star killers.
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>>380824327
That was a risk
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>>380827917
>can hold 2 weapons
Not in canon
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>>380821210
And Kirby can punch through a planet but gets hurt brushing up against a waddle dee
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>>380828550
Take note, this is canon and not a gameplay mechanic.
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Whats your best record at bros?
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>>380827207
Sakamoto is going to redeem himself. Interviewers already asked him about story in Samus Returns and he said "It's in the background".
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>>380827917
Samus is Irish. Aran is a group of Islands in Ireland. Samus is the female version of Seamus. She ain't no bleeding Germanic, she's a right bird.
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>>380828454
It's made by an entirely new team. There's no way it's going to be 100% replicating the original primes. I personally hope the new team speeds up the gameplay. I like Prime but it could get a bit slow in places.
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>>380826383
I see Chief's death in game as Master Chief as probability manipulation and reality warping. When Chief dies he negates the probability that he did, thus he never dies.
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>>380820205
This.
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>>380819185
Can Samus shot ayys and not afraid of anything?
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>>380817647
You'd have to go through a shitton of logs to figure out what it is. Gameplay-wise, Chief loses to a bit of sustained gunfire, but Samus can still bite it if she touches the weakest enemy on Zebes even in her best suit. Power Bombs are tiny nukes, but there are materials that can't be blown up, and Chief's suit has gone through a lot. Chief's lore puts him as basically a demigod of war that lucks through defeating defeating the most eldritch enemies possible, and Samus is a mystical space bird hybrid in an advanced suit powered by ascendant science.

Chief could have a chance of winning against anything except endgame gear from Corruption, Fusion, and the Hyper Beam, but most likely he'd get shat on.
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>>380829892
But Chief can manipulate probability in canon.
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>>380823336
UUUUUN

BREAKABLE
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>>380823519
Didn't the Japs also say that Samus was their term for a tranny?
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>>380830157
No, that was a mis-translation, if I recall correctly. Something about her genetic modification making her not quite human anymore. Basically the Japanese said "transhuman" and the translator said "transgender". I think it's kind of hard to distinguish in Japanese because the language lacks gendered pronouns.
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>>380830313
Not him but that sounds right. God dammit we Americans always fuck up the translation. Also is Master Chief 100% human, I honestly don't know.
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>>380830593
Enhanced human, he's had several surgical procedures to make him basically an intermediary between normal human and WH40K space marine.
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>>380825415
He runs around at like 30 miles an hour in game.
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>>380830793
Okay, what about his genesong awakening in Halo 4 that allowed him to survive the Composer, hear the Didact, and gain access into the Domain?
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>>380830793
A genetically enhanced cybernetic super-soldier. I'm also pretty certain he's had some intense psychological conditioning that makes him kind of autistic for war.
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Would never happen, but I'd love a crossover game. Imagine post-Fusion Adam meeting Cortana, Samus and the Chief teaming up to take out whatever bullshit the universe throws at them. I can dream.
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Lets say Samus has been battling for custody for the metroid for months now and she just got out of an extremely long session in court that pushed the case in neither direction. Samus is tired and exhausted of this legal tape horseshit and its been seriously getting in the way of her and her missions so she has to go to the gym often to keep up with her pinnacle physique but its nothing like the real thing and its stressing her out.

Meanwhile master chief cracks yet another visor and while hes already ordered a new one it got lost at some point and hes been trying to track it down for the last several days. Hes called many phone numbers and he keeps getting directed to different customer support lines while his current visor continues to crack and get worse


who would win /v/?
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>>380820920
>RWBY will be remembered more than Handsome Jack and Hey Ash

no
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>>380830915
Wasn't the deus ex machina of 4 that humans were secretly the chosen race of the Forerunners? I stopped following the lore of Halo closely after 2, and the most recent game (not counting the remaster they put out) I played was Reach. But I vaguely remember it being something like that that let Halo beat space Ultron in a video I watched on it.
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>>380824383
John's face is scared and probably ugly as fuck.
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>>380831226
If I remember right its that humans were secretly just as advanced as forerunners and were in the middle of a big war with them when the flood showed up and fucked up everything. At some point humans got knocked back to the stone age.
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>>380830817
No, that's doomguy.
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>>380831206
It literally will be.
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>>380831226
Forerunners gave humanity the Mantle of Responsibility and considers the species to be their heir. Master Chief is the culmination of the Forerunners's thousand lifetimes of planning from his genetic enhancements, to his armor, to his AI. The Librarian in Halo 4 unlocked the genesong she placed in him at birth through a geas.
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>>380830958
>intense psychological conditioning that makes him kind of autistic for war.
He was a literal child soldier. IIRC the selection process of SPARTAN-II's was to kidnap kids they thought were the ubermensch and were being trained for military service as young as 8 years old.
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>>380831401
That history is subject to retcons now. The story was that forunners were dominant, while humans were kind of big as well but not as big. Humans got invaded by the flood and invaded forunner worlds as they fled. Forunners responded by destroying humans. Humans never had a chance when they were being attacked on two fronts. They did manage to temporarily defeat the flood before the foruners destroyed the humans in turn.
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>>380831401
Retconned in Halo 3, Forerunners were a completely different species and they had a war with an advanced ancient humanity. Ancient humanity lost that war and the Forerunners de-evolutionized them back to the stone age.
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>>380831545
Holy shit Halo 4 is retarded. I'm glad I stopped being invested in its lore when it was just a fun space war story.
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>>380831724
Well at least it's leading to something big, in Halo Wars 2 the Flood just returned and now theories are popping up that the Gravemind gave Cortana the logic plague while she was with it in High Charity.
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>>380831720
Thats what I said though.
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>>380831226
who even fucking knows anymore

In contact harvest Prophet of Truth finds forerunner artifacts that are human, but in Halo 4 humans are Space Redskins that get exterminated by Forerunners because they glassed one of their planets to deal with the flood, only for them to be "reseeded" on earth and then composed by Didact and reseeded again after the rings fire
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>>380831935
>The flood has returned XD!

It's a creatively bankrupt plot point. Going with a new enemy in the form of rampant AI is better.
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>>380831972
I'm sorry I posted late and my post came right after yours.
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>>380831935
>Halo Wars 2
Was that any good? I picked up the first one on PC when it came out because I kinda like the Halo universe, and I have a huge boner for RTS, but holy shit was it bad. I'm sure a lot of it is because it was designed for console, but holy shit was it slow, stupidly balanced, and had a horrible interface. Even the story mode missions were cancer as fuck trying to play through.
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>>380832071
The Flood return was hinted several times though. Halo 3's ending hinted at it, Halo 4's Librarian cutscene hinted at it, and the Halo novel, Halo Silentium hinted at it. It was only a matter of time until they made their return.
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Master chief. He could kill all enemies samus has killed but Samus yet has to face a real military with tanks and shit. She's been mostly fighting dumb wildlife.
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>>380832081
It's alright

Story ended before anything could really happen though and it seems like the Banished is just going to be isolated to this game and never spoke of again, which sucks because Atriox is actually somewhat interesting
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>>380831206
Say what you will about Borderlands 2, but Handsome Jack was a memorable villain in an age where we usually don't get them.
I've never hated a fictional character as much as I hated Jack after "what's that's last one again?... oh right, EXPLOSION!!"
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>>380832267
At least we get to kill Jack. The Captain Scarlet DLC really pissed me off because of how you don't kill her and she just disappears.
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>>380831545
Minor correction, the geas = genesong and is present in all of Humanity, John is simply the one that ended up having it the most developed. All Humans are technically capable of having the geas activated and being rendered immune to the Composer and whatever other benefits it provides.
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>>380832081
I didn't play it, I just watch the cutscenes, basically the Ark created another Installation 04, Professor Anders got trapped on the ring which was headed toward the planet Threshold like in Halo 1, but it was pulled out of slipspace by Cortana's Guardian. In the DLC the Banished find the Flood on the Ark and release them. The Gravemind didn't send all of his troops to Halo and had some of them hide out on the Ark and they survived Halo's pulse. They rebuild and got stronger waiting to be found and released again on the Ark.
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>>380832457
This guy right here knows his stuff, listen to him. I'm happy the Forerunners had nothing to do with Chief's supernatural luck.
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>>380817647
How is it even a contest?
>Wave beam would shred him
>Powerbomb would vaporize him
>Airship would bombard him from orbit
>His enemy never runs out of ammo, has easily a dozen times his health and can replenish it by breaking random shit
>He was able to defeat one group of aliens with the help of a bunch of other marines and their support
>Samus defeated several alien races all by herself, with no help whatsoever

In what possible way would Master Chief even threaten Samus?
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>>380832224
Samus is a walking weapons platform, in her shittiest power suit she has a plasma pistol with infinite ammo and a far more powerful charge shot. In her peak she is a human sized scarab walker. Get her running she could probably sprint through a division of Wraiths destroying them without taking a hit.
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>>380832607
>one group of aliens
He took out two empires and has weapons that can atomize his victims. He even has a stronger nuke than Samus the Havok.
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>>380832765
>He
You mean he and the entirety of the armies of earth, after losing just about everything too, nice try though :^)
>Havoc tho
Haha, no.
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>>380832607
noob combo
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Haven't played metroid but I'm going with the master chief because SPARTAN-II augmentations and training are very thorough.

Chief has unbreakable bones, insane muscle density, superhuman reflexes and above average intelligence. He weighs half a ton with his armor on. He is trained to outsmart and defeat Elites, who can be on par with a spartan physically and mentally. He has no true weak spots because the augmentations improve on everything.

>>380832607

if chief can avoid getting blasted by Covenant plasma for 3 games, he can dodge her beams as well.
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>>380832567
Stop being an ass kisser. It makes people look like samefagers
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>>380832945
>Can't hide behind walls
>Weapons will literally home in on him too
>H-he c-can dodge it s-somehow!
Oh anon, you're adorable.

His enemy regularly takes hits from building sized enemies, while the chief dies from a stiff breeze in comparison.
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>>380832618
Yeah, but Samus is also a woman. Women are destined to lose to the dick, you know I'm saying?
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>>380832881
He but fucked High Charity, twice alone by the way.

>>380833062
He's right though, what you want me to look like an idiot spreading misinformation?
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>>380819909
I fucking loved this video back in the day, it was like a huge DMC3 cutscene.
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>>380833105
>>Weapons will literally home in on him too

been there done that.
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>>380833216
*butt

>>380833105
Not him but gameplay for the most part isn't canon.
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>>380833254
>Doesn't go through walls
>Does fuck all for actual damage
>Runs out of ammo
Nice try faggot. you might get a single energy tank.
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>>380821981
you can't start the game with god powers. she's gotta lose her shit so you can spend the game collecting them again. upgrade collecting is what the series is built on
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>>380833305
>Master chief
>Genetically modified by humans, wearing human made power armor
>Samus
>Genetically modified by species on the apex of technology
>Wearing their magnum opus in weapon design
Still not seeing how Chief doesn't die like a dog there, anon.
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>>380833443
needlers will kill you if you take more than a few consecutive hits, though.
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>>380825415
he flips cars like I flip paper cups. dudes a monster
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>>380833718
In-game don't the needles shatter on contact with shields, but if you get stuck three times shield-less they detonate and are an instakill?
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How does Samus fend against OD-OD-ODS-OD-OD-ODST DROPPING IN?
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Theyre pretty evenly matched both being super human in someway with power armor. Id say it depends on what suit Samus has and whether the chief has access to Covenant weaponry.
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>>380833667
It mainly depends on what they have and Chief luck won't allow him to die. His supernaural luck is canon. if they were to fight the most fair thing to do is to give them everything from their main series games no spin offs, or games not staring them, meaning no Prime series, Wars series, Spartan series, Other M, ODST, or Reach. I can see it being a more fair fight because they have everything, weapons, vehicles, equipment, abilities, power-ups.
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Samus's regular power beam fires small balls of focused nuclear fission reactions.

Master chief dies if he gets shot by an smg too much.

They're not even in the same league, it's like comparing Link to Cloud, one is far beyond the other and they shouldn't even be compared.
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>>380820737
two of the strongest Sci-fi heroes
give birth to that weak ass shit
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>Metroid can use shinespark
Checkmate atheists.
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>>380833667
>Masterchief
>Genetically gifted through generations to be the apex of humanity from an ancient species of reality warpers
>Samus
>Genetically engineered by literal whos
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>>380833879
needles will detonate even if you have shield if you take a fuckton but yes, 3 shots are enough to kill you sheldless if memory serves me right
>>380834051
so this is how OPM came to be.
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>>380817647
>chief can crouch
>metroid can't
I think we all know who the winner here is
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>>380834021
>Master chief dies if he gets shot by an smg too much.
Gameplay not canon

>focused nuclear fission reactions
Source?
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>>380833949
WAR IS HELL, AND I'M THE DEVIL
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>>380833986
>no Prime series
are you fucking retarded?
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>>380834284
codex and log entries from the prime series
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>>380832267
As someone who mained Mordecai in 1, that part killed a little piece of me inside.
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>>380834413
It's a spin off and Samus abilities in those games are never appear again in the series. Phazon no longer exist, she gave all of her gear in Echoes back to the Luminoth, and the Nova Beam never shows up again. I still question whether Hunters is canon but if it is, she never uses those weapons again, Fed Force explains itself.
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Samus uses screw attack once

rip
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>>380820038
well the dude that wrote hsotd is also dead so there's that
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>Halofags desperately using headcanon and handwaving of Samus' skills and equipment in order to even pretend Chief has a fighting chance
Why even bother when those are the lengths you need to go to?

Seriously though wave beam alone just ends this meme forever.
>>380833986
>No prime series
Prime is Samus' weakest incarnation anon.
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>>380834439
It doesn't say that anywhere on Wikitroid man and that has the inventory data from the Prime series.
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>>380828769
>tfw 343 industries retconned this
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>>380834717
Phazon son
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>>380820469

>Assuming Samus can keep her distance, then her.

Running away isn't a win you dumb fuck.
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>>380834817
But the didn't, Spartan IVs are augmented, not at the level of Chief but to the level to wear the suits.
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>>380817647
>plot armor vs plot armor
An epic battle to the draw.
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>>380834864
Yes? Phazon has nothing on the more broken upgrades from Super (again, wave beam, the most broken shit you could possible put in a projectile based game)

She also doesn't have shinespark and such in prime, and doesn't get the screw attack until prime 2
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>>380834947
I thought Spartan IVs were on par with Spartan IIs because they generally had more advanced Mjolnir armor, but as humans Spartan IIs were vastly superior to 'naked' Spartan IVs.
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>>380832038
As I understand it:

The Precursors came first and were the top dog of the universe until the Forerunners came around. The Precursors were the originators of the Mantle (the guiding principle of protecting the lessor races) until the Forerunners came about. The Forerunners chaffed under the Precursors benign rule and fought a war against them, eventually eradicating the Precursors.

Post Forerunner-Precursor War, the Forerunners ascended to replace the Precursors and took on the Mantle and in time ran into a similar situation with the Human-Prophet alliance/empire. Meanwhile the Precursors either created or became the Flood in order to get back at the Forerunners.

The Flood seeded themselves throughout the galaxy and ended up spanning in the Human/Prophet controlled worlds first to build strength. The Humans/Prophets in return fled to new worlds (under protection of the Mantle) and displaced others there in an attempt to buy time to defeat the Flood. This unplanned for mass migration brought the Humans/Prophets into conflict with the Forerunners.
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>>380834875
Chief wouldn't win a straight up fight either though, his genetic engineering compared tot hat of Samus is comparable to fighting a longsword with a stick.

He's beat in strength, dexterity and intelligence, the fuck would he do?
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>>380834659
>It's a spin off
no it isn't
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>>380835109
The Forerunner-Human/Prophet war was won by the Forerunners (duh, can't fight a 2 front war) and the Humans were devolved (hey, gotta maintain the fossil record!) while the Prophets were [simply] stripped of their tech and left to rot. All of this happened as the Humans managed to develop a cure for the Flood that was of course lost.

The Flood then attacked the weakened and fractured Forerunners (not all took kindly to the war and its outcome). The Forerunner-Flood War ended with the creation of the Halos and the extermination of all sentient life in the galaxy. Before this happened though the Forerunners used the Composer to harvest samples of all lower life (i.e. non-Forerunner) and placed them in shield worlds so they could re-seed the galaxy with life after the Halos fired.

Some of the Forerunners felt really guilty about what happened to the Humans and then killing off all life and so decided to make Humans their designated heirs (I'm unclear why the Prophets were just straight up ignored). To that end they placed a geas on their Composed Humanity that would guide them into developing the tools necessary to claim the Mantle and become the new Forerunners.

The Prophets, do not take kindly to this perceived insult and since they only lost their tech, not their advanced brains of "memories" and went on to establish the Covenant believing they should be the rightful heirs to the Forerunners and wanting to destroy Humanity should they ever run across each other again. Then the games happen.
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>>380834992
True but then you Chief having an invisibility equipment, destroying a banshee just by flying into it with his armor, and being able to tackle a speeding Banshee into buildings. Chief isn't weak in the least. He's pretty broken, in Halo 4's opening he got crushed by large pieces of the Dawn and he just throws it off after falling from space, again like it was nothing.
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Samus can

*Move fast to leave after images and hard enough to destroy solid rock walls on contact
*Have a beam that stops the target from moving if it hits once
*Have a beam that ignores armor
*Have homing weapons
*Have weapons that can hit everything in an area equal to the size of a large room
*Survive being fully immersed in lava for minutes at a time
*Analysis anything mechanical by looking at it
*Fly
*Enter a state that renders her invulnerable to pretty much everything

I don't know Halo lore but from what I gather Master Chief is just a very talened soldier with some energy weapons and a barrier that can tank a few bullets.
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>>380817647
John is a fucking monster of a soldier in terms of pure, raw physical strength. His reaction times are unmatched as well.

In all other aspects, they're both pretty much equal.

Realistically though, they would probably hate-fuck each other.
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>>380835107
you're right on that end. the spartan iv's close the gap with tech rather than augmentations
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>>380835107
No their armor puts them on par with a Spartan II in armor but out of armor the Spartan IIs are beyond them. Spartan IIs have near supernatural strength.
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>>380835238
>Invisibility
This is something Samus overcomes in just about every Metroid game. Try again.
>Destroying a fragile airplane by flying into it
Your argument proves that banshees are shit, how is that relevant here?
>Chief isn't weak
No, but he's absurdly outmatched simply because of how the powerlevels in the Metroid universe are leagues higher.
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>>380835179
Yes it is, Main series is 2D, side stories are the Prime series, how do you still not know this?
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How does the chef deal with this?
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>>380829391
samus is half human, half bird, half x parasite, and half metroid. shes more pure than anyone who calls themselves aryan
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>>380832071

Don't care. Prometheans are shit and boring as fuck.
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>>380835454
Halofags deal with it by insisting prime doesn't count, read the thread.
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>>380835320
That is exactly what I said anon.
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>>380835390
Prime is part of main series, they occur between Metroid II and Super.
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>>380835454
luck
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>>380835370
>Invisibility
I misspelled, I meant invincibility.
>Your argument proves that banshees are shit, how is that relevant here?
Banshees are made from Covenant armor, stronger and more advanced than human armor.
>No, but he's absurdly outmatched simply because of how the powerlevels in the Metroid universe are leagues higher.
The Forerunners and Flood can take out the entire Metroid universe.
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>>380835390
>how do you still not know this?
maybe because its wrong?
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>>380835454
sniper attack
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>>380835594
>The Forerunners and Flood can take out the entire Metroid universe.
Nothing any of them have done can touch the high end of the Chozo.
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>>380835537
Oh I thought you meant out of armor.

>>380835586
It's a subseries that happens between Metroid/Zero Mission and Metroid II/Samus Returns.
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>>380817647
Samus would beat the shit out of Chief so brutally that it's not even funny.
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>>380835587
What variable outcome could change in his favor there, anon?

>>380835594
>Invincibility
Freezing him until it wears off and then killing him anyway? Using screwattack and schooling the punk on what proper invincibility is like?
>Stronger and more advanced
Yes, clearly, when two things collide it's the stronger and more advanced things that break after all :^)
>The Forerunners and Flood can take out the entire metroid universe
Hah, cute, the metroid universe has dealt with that shit more often than the haloverse, and better, your petty threat is a bad monday at best.
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Are people seriously trying to imply Master Chief could win or even put up a fight?

Do people just not know how OP Samus is compared to him?
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>>380818925
What are the chance this is real.
I'm almost as mad as that time some guy is accused by his mother and sister for bringing viruses.
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MC can get killed easily by modern day weapons and ammunition. How is he supposed to stand a chance against Samus?
The difference in power levels is ridiculous
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>>380835710
>Chief tries to snipe
>Samus shinesparks his ass
>Or just goes over there using screw attack which negates projectiles
>Or just blows the fucker up with a super missile
>Or freezes his entire proximity with a dispersion missile
>Chief ded
Good try.
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>>380835594
>The Forerunners and Flood can take out the entire Metroid universe.
Except that's not true at all. Most standard creatures in metroid, including metroids themselves are flood tier. Hell metroids and X parasites in general are far above anything any race in halo can handle since

>Forerunners and flood don't have instafreeze technology there's no realistic way they can stop energy beings like metroids
>X parasites are like the flood but even better because they can mimic anything with even the smallest bit of bio life in it. Say for example a floods assimilate a spartan. Kill that flood spartan and that's it. an X parasite comes into contact with that spartan and you now have 7 of that spartan running around withing an hour.
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>>380835737
>Oh I thought you meant out of armor.
I suppose I could have been more precise in my wording. By "as humans" and "naked" i meant outside of armor.
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>>380835931
or chief could just dodge or deflect any of those extremely telegraphed attacks that often can't change direction
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>>380836002
>Metroids > Flood
>Ing > Flood
>Spess pirates > Flood
>Whatever Ridley is > Flood
>X parasites > Flood
>Phazon > Flood
The flood are just an embarrassment really.
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>>380817647
Mega Man takes both of their powers.
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>>380817647
The funny thing is how master chief couldn't stop an alien hivemind head on and had to use a weapon that just kills everything, whereas samus has the tools to walk into the flood hoard, destroy the gravemind and maybe the planet for good measure and collect her bounty.
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>>380836002
Don't forget, X parasite can duplicate tech too, hence SA-X, that takes them a step up from the Flood who need to manipulate existing tech. The X can literally turn anything and everything thrown against them into more of their army. The Forerunners had a hard enough time with an enemy that could take control of any random biomass and could talk their AI to death.
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>>380835707
https://www.giantbomb.com/metroid-prime/3025-1319/
https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/13/15782806/metroid-prime-4-nintendo-switch-announced-e3-2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin-off_(media)

Prime series are spin offs to the main series.
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>>380836084
>He could just dodge
Shine spark would canoncially destroy any building he happens to use as a sniper nest

He can try to avoid screw attack, but he's not going to keep that up forever and has no means to stop it

Can't dodge super missile

Can't dodge dispersion missiles either

Nice try though, but really, Chief has no fucking chance in hell, it's like a toddler fighting a black belt.
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I ship Metroid with Doomguy.
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>Master Chief
>gets killed by 15 rounds of 7.62x51mm
How is this even a fight?
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>>380836347
Doomguy vs MC sounds like a lot more of a fight desu, at least Chief could probably get a few shots in before being torn to shreds that way.
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>>380835454

too slow, use this instead
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>>380836278
more like a black belt fighting an actual tank. sure the black belt can hold his own against people on his level, but the tank is made of steel. it doesn't even need to use it's guns to win the fight because it's a fucking tank.
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>>380819801
This
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>>380836353
>Samus
>gets killed by touching a space crab a few times
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>>380836553
Against Samus it really isn't. She's too strong of an opponent with way too many options.
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the REAL question is, samus vs emotional distress. who wins?
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Why don't we let the FGC decide, hmm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDjeO1wCJmo
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>>380836629
Considering that Samus can't seem to go more than a few days without losing all her upgrades, it's probably a good idea to define which character is what
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>>380836581
Those space crabs are horrible space creatures. 7.62x51mm is still just 7.62x51mm.
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Badass coming through

No one can compare

>be engineer
>fight mental horrors of dead girlfriend
>constantly being harassed by spoopy ayy lmaos
>basic weapon is just an engineering tool
>fights off constant hordes of zombayy lmaos
>easily murders them
>basically iron man

How do his balls fit in that suit?
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>>380818087
D-Does she have feather pubes?
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>>380835784
>>380835712
>Freezing him until it wears off and then killing him anyway? Using screwattack and schooling the punk on what proper invincibility is like?
But she can still be hurt.
>Yes, clearly, when two things collide it's the stronger and more advanced things that break after all :^)
Learn your Halo
>not knowing shit about the Forerunners and Flood
Time to school you guys in Halo. Forerunners are casual star bursters. Their ships destroy several multiverses just by traveling through space. Their weapons are capable of destroying entire planets, the can create worlds with life, rip your soul out of your body and enslave it as a machine, have Halo rings that are powered by neural physics (literal space magic) that not only kills all life in the galaxy but can kill beings in other dimensions, they also had the ability to effect time and space and can age you over a billion years. The Flood a stage 4 can warp reality and create transcended tentacles called star roads, War Sphinx can flip continents. Dude it's not even a contest.
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>>380836278
>Shine spark would canoncially destroy any building he happens to use as a sniper nest
but it can't really be actively guided
plus, iirc, the shinespark drains energy as it's used

>He can try to avoid screw attack, but he's not going to keep that up forever and has no means to stop it
the turning circle on the screw attack is so wide, chief would just need to leisurely stroll to dodge it

>Can't dodge super missile
>Can't dodge dispersion missiles either
these missiles, by missile standards, are slow
they can be dodged (or deflected if the gravity hammer is involved)
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>>380835262
This post shows why in theory this thread is cool but in practice it devolves into people just remaining ignorant of the other side's lore and fighting for their own side, and feigning stupudity when presented with good conflict.
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>>380836238
On what planet does a game that features the main character of a franchise, in events that are within the primary canon of the games story line, and is the flagship titles of said franchise for years, get considered a "spin-off." I agree that a game like Reach, or ODST are spin-off titles, but the Prime series is within the main timeline of the franchise featuring events the main character of the franchise experiences.
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>>380836753
Yes, so stop asking. She's very self conscious about them.
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>>380836002
>>380836157
See>>380836771
Metroidfags are an embarrassment.
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So luminoth werent as advanced as chozo, but they were still super advanced and both races ended up becoming bros right?
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>>380836753
shes. but she also has goopy, gelatinous vaginal excretions that will absorb your body and duplicate your physical form. if you can survive that, her vaginal canal then has fangs that suck out your life force. she also has herpes
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>>380836771
>But she can still be hurt
Not by anything the Chief can dish out anon.
>Learn your halo
I was taught never to go full retard so I'll be doing that instead.
>All that shit
And they still couldn't ascend to the next plane of existence, welcome to Metroid, sit down.
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>>380836679
>This will never come out
>EVER
The worst timeline.
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>>380836819
The game is ignored within the 2D franchise and is not even considered a massive event, stay mad Prime baby your series is a spin-off. Mario has spin offs staring himself and so does many other characters.
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>>380836746
this
isaac can survive in both samus and chiefs gameworlds with no problem also necromorphs are superior enemies
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>>380820038
What no
Dude had heart disease and died
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>>380836581
>ran into a wall once
>lost all her powers
Samus a shit.
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>>380835856
It's real, sadly. Official reports state he had some form of allergic reaction to the anistetics they gave him for the operation
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>>380826349
people are getting desperate for 4.44
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>>380836743
>get shot at by space crabs
>suit shields might pop but come back
>touch space crab
>suit takes permanent damage that has to repaired via a special recovery station or else suit might exploding on next occasion of touching a space crab
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>>380836775
>Shinespark drains energy
Nigger what the fuck are you talking about?
>Turning circle on screw attack
You mean 180 degrees in a split second? Yea you can just take a leasurely stroll around that buddy :^) Screw attack is basically turning into a flying morphball that spits out a radius of plasma that disintegrates anything it comes into contact with, good luck Master Chief!
>They are slow
Explosions are not slow nigger.
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>>380837034
You know who'd make an excellent character against Necromorphs?
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>>380819909
Where are the Samus X Cheif lewds
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>>380836771
>But she can still be hurt.
>in screw attack

> Their ships destroy several multiverses just by traveling through space
>fucking fungi based zombies did them in

You're missing the point anon, Forerunners were so advanced they didn't need mass destruction and fucked up shit to make their superiority known. And they didn't need technology to rip out souls, they literally became so smart they transcended existence while the forerunners could only put their minds in computers. Samus' suit isn't even their greatest weapon and it alone was enough to wipe out a threat that makes the flood look like jokes. That's the difference between the chozo and forerunners. The forerunners encounter a seemingly insurmountable threat and they go "It's fucked, destroy everything." whereas the chozo simply builds something that can specifically wipe out that foe. Which one is more advanced? the race that has to destroy themselves to win or the race that can win through pure creation? Chozo>forerunners.
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>>380836983
Covenant weapons can hurt her, and Forerunner weapons are a different story. Also UNSC weapons such as the Rocket Launcher, Hydra, Spartan Laser, Railgun, and Havok can hurt her.
>I was taught never to go full retard so I'll be doing that instead.
You already did though
>And they still couldn't ascend to the next plane of existence, welcome to Metroid, sit down.
The Flood are literal gods.
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>>380837101
>>suit takes permanent damage that has to repaired via a special recovery station or else suit might exploding on next occasion of touching a space crab
Kill space crab and take it's life essence.
Alternatively, destroy some random rubble and replenish energy instantaneously as opposed to waiting 10 seconds cowering behind cover
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>>380837162
There needs to be doomXdead space game naow
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>>380837231
>Forerunners were so advanced they didn't need mass destruction and fucked up shit to make their superiority known.
*chozo
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>>380837101
>MC gets touched by space crabs
>Dies instantly
What were you saying?

Those space crabs do the same amount of damage as a giant room sized space horror, Chief would be dead before you could call for backup.
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>>380837079
You mean get blasted into a wall from the explosion of a space frigate's reactor core.
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>>380837136
>Shinespark drains energy
Play Super Metroid sometime
>Good luck dodging a screw attack
Wouldn't be too hard considering that it comes with having to jump upwards
>Explosions are not slow
But the missiles are given how it's realistic for enemies to dodge them completely in the Metroid series
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>ITT: xbox kiddies who've never played Metroid vastly underestimate the difference in power level between the two universes.
Fully equipped chief might be able to take Samus if she has no bonus equipment.
Besides, in Halo 3 iirc you have 115 HP and some shielding, typically Samus has at least 1000 HP. By the only standard way of comparing games power levels (their numbers) Samus clearly wins by a country mile.
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>>380837231
See>>380837252
Flood are gods, Chozo would be slaughter, the Flood are beyond the X and are far more intelligent, Mother Brain would get the logic plague and infected and they spread extremely fast. One single Flood spore can destroy a universe my friend.
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>>380837032
>The game is ignored within the 2D franchise
Provide proofs or fuck off.
>Mario has spin offs staring himself
Completely different context given most(if not all) of those games are a massive departure from the core gameplay of the Mario series. Aside from perspective, the Prime series is just a 1st person translation of the 2d series of games. All of the other core tenants of Metroid gameplay are there.

All of this just ignores the the primary point of the Prime series taking place within the Metroid canon, and is experienced by the main character of the franchise.
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>>380837252
>The flood are literal gods
>Get killed by a human in a space suit
Yea.. no.
>Covenant weapons can hurt her
Except no, they can't. Being submerged in lava only slowly wears her down, and that's without an upgrade, when you start taking those into account it gets all levels of silly, Phazon suit would be literally invulnerable.

Go play Metroid fusion if you want to see how bullshit Samus' suit is anon, literally the only thing that can canonically even touch it is beams of pure plasma energy, nothing the Chief can do will even make Samus notice him.
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>>380837416
Samus lose like three energy tanks just from getting tackled by a Zeta Metroid, while Chief shields can take falling from space and hitting vehicles at terminal velocity.
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>>380837416
>using the numbers from two different games
>when a light tap to the back is more effective than a rocket launcher
>when a light touch of a small alien from any angle stops you in your tracks and takes a bite of your health
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>>380837646
>Chief shields can take falling from space and hitting vehicles at terminal velocity.
And chief dies from 15 rounds from 7.62x51mm. A skilled enough modern man can kill him if they want.
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>>380837416
They do the same with Doom and 40k.
It's so cute to see, honestly. It's like watching forum play by post roleplaying.
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>>380837162
>At his maximum top speed, he exerts 5739825 joules worth of energy, which is about the same energy as the explosion from 1kg of TNT
>If he ran headfirst into a wall at top speed, he'd hit the wall with 9 million newtons of force, which is just a bit south of the thrust generated by the Saturn V rocket on liftoff
>Doomguy could put the Saturn V in space by running into it at full speed
Could anyone survive a shoulder tackle from Doomguy?
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>>380837640
>only plasma energy can work
>Covenant weapons don't work
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>>380837657
>He hasn't played fusion
>Never learned that in actual canon Samus' suit doesn't get harmed by anything less than plasma
Wew lad.
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>>380837793
>Energy weapons = plasma
What?
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>>380837552
>Provide proofs or fuck off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L46q-iLsRsc

>Completely different context given most(if not all) of those games are a massive departure from the core gameplay of the Mario series
That's literally what Prime is.
>>380837640
Have you played any Halo games, or read any Halo books? Better yet have you read the Forerunner Saga, because if you didn't then you need to shut the fuck up until you do. You clearly don't know shit about Halo lore. I bet you think Zebes has a 900g gravity.
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How these threads work.

Use in-universe lore/cutscene/dialogue/ect to support your argument because your character is the best and designed to make you feel powerful so they're simply amazing in writing (cutscene dante) and pick apart the opponent using game logic because obviously in a game the character has limitations or else it wouldn't be much of a game(game dante).
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>>380837743
Game mechanics ain't canon, Chief in canon can't be harmed by bullets.
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>>380837864
There are literally plasma weapons with the name plasma in then that fire plasma lol you fucking
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>>380837480
>Flood are gods
gods that can be taken on with basic munitions and only win through sheer numbers.

>Chozo would be slaughter
Not even close considering flood needs biomass and THE CHOZO TRANSCENDED EXISTENCE

> the Flood are beyond the X and are far more intelligent
Nope. If the x parasite weren't snuffed out by the chozo early (because the chozo are actually competent unlike the forerunners) then they could easily take over the universe. remember they don't just assimilate like the flood, they multiply. hell if metroids had sheer numbers they could wipe the halo universe because the halo verse doesn't have any weapons that can beat creatures mad of pure energy nor do they have the means to pry a metroid off.

>Mother Brain would get the logic plague and infected and they spread extremely fast.
Good thing Samus can singlehandedly destroy mother brain, what'd master chief have to do to destroy gravemind again?

>One single Flood spore can destroy a universe my friend.
Through multiplication, something that X and talon metroids con do, making one of them more dangerous than a single flood spore by default.
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>>380837804
>Fusion
>every everything except for the weak ass Power Suit can be taken apart by humies with a few power tools
>final Fusion Suit still gets ripped apart in chunks by Omega Metroid
Have you played Fusion?
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>>380837895
From what you're sperged out in the thread so far those books sound absolutely abysmal anon
>Muh alien threat are literal gods though
>But a human totally beats them np :^))
Into the trash it goes.
>Muh Halo lore
Halo lore died the moment Chief survived planetary re-entry by landing face first in the dirt
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>>380827202
I wonder how the scanner actually works. In the Prime game time essentially stops, giving you time to read the text. In universe you could consider that like the data just being uploaded into her mind.
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>>380837987
The games aren't canon??
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>>380837864
The most iconic Covenant weapon is literally called "plasma rifle". C'mon, I hardly play Halo anymore but this is stuff you should know from just playing one game.
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>>380837864
The covenant weapons are plasma weapons dude.
Plasma Pistol, Plasma Rifle, (plasma) Rod Cannon, Plasma Grenades...
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>>380837956
It only works if someone has knowledge of both franchises universes, but Metroidfags fail to understand other universes or even there own, it's a reason everyone hates doing vs threads with them. I bet they think Samus can beat Doomguy.
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>>380837789
Doom Guy doesn't need a superior officer to authorize all his shit
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I'm going to need a crying chief and a smug Samus image
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>a flood gets on chief
>he can hit it and make it explode.
>a metroid gets on chief's face
>He has to literally blow his head off to get it off.
>people think anything in the haloverse can handle metroid tier threats when their are literal ghost aliens.
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>>380837895
>video from a literally who Youtube channel is proof
neck yourself
>That's literally what Prime is.
Prime is exploring an expansive world, killing space pirates and local fauna, finding upgrades to your suit, with a healthy bit of platforming. That sure is comparable to fucking Mario Kart.
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>>380838008
I said read the books or fuck off, you don't know Halo lore. Flood are transcended beings in stage four and transcended beings still get the logic plague.

>>380838032
That's why you don't know shit, stop having vs threads until you have a concrete understanding of both universes and how they work.

>>380838054
Mechanics
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>>380838026
>He actually thinks this is valid
They couldn't remove the whole suit that's kind of a big deal you numpty, they removed the outer layers and that shit walks around and gets multiplied, and the outer layers could only be surgically removed by a society of people far more advanced than the retards in Halo.
>Gets ripped apart by Omega metroid
Except that's wrong, the X sacrifices itself to fuse with Samus so that the Omega metroid could be beaten, let's also not ignore how fucking broken Omega metroids are in terms of power.
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>>380838127
>I bet they think Samus can beat Doomguy
Doomguy is closer to a god for whom even fate bends in order for him to defeat hell across dimensions.

He can survive the fucking Warp. Supposedly with how his suit absorbs hell energy, it'd probably make him even more powerful.
We're reaching depths here with Doomguy.
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>>380838295
See>>380838320

>>380838306
>Primefags don't know their own series and that the video was made by Nintendo themselves
You can't make this shit up!
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>>380838320
>That's why you don't know shit
Funny, here I was thinking the exact same thing.
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>>380817647
>tfw samus uses thermal and sees chief has a dick smaller then a jap
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>>380838320
>read this irrelevant fanfiction that never gets acknowledged anywhere else, that still doesn't prevent the Chozo from steamrolling them in their sleep
This is getting sad, lad.
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>>380838414
Metroidfags are so stupid they may think Samus can take him when only something from heaven or hell can hurt him.
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>>380838320
>. Flood are transcended beings in stage four
anon, the chozo literally define their very own existence. remember the halo ring works because it starves the flood. they can't feast on what doesn't exist so they can't feast on the ascended chozo race. Chozo>forerunner.
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>>380838425
Nintendo World Report is not an official Nintendo channel you dingus.
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Lets settle this once and for all

Someone needs to build a game with all the baddest dudes/girl and make them play exactly as they would in their respective games.
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>>380838470
I mean, obviously? He's genetically engineered to be a super soldier, a dick would just get in the way, he probably doesn't even have one at all so they could save space on the suits.
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>>380836771
Lol, says will school, gets basic shit wrong.

Neural physics = Precursor tech, the Forerunners don't understand it but are able to destroy it with the tech behind the Halos and incorporated it in the Composer but don't understand how it works.

The Flood, also being Precursors/Precursor tech can make use of neural physics when sufficiently advanced (planet size mind, so not super easy, and Samus + planets tends to end with the planet losing)

Multi-dimension/space references means things like slipspace, they aren't hoping realities. Stop making stuff up.

Forerunner tech boils down to slipspace mastery, hard light constructs, and stellar scale, nano-sized construction abilities with a few exotics here and there. They are certainly impressive with what they have, but nothing they've done or fought compares to things the Chozo have done (which includes mastery of actual magic per Prime 2)

Stop trying to put the Forerunners on the same footing as the Time Lords.
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>>380838051
>I wonder how the scanner actually works.
I would guess the translation is that Samus being super human, can perceive and process the information far faster then a normal human can.
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>>380838127
I haven't read the thread but I'm sure both sides are doing the same thing.

All these threads work like this and have since the beginning of Video game character Vs threads. Everyone wants to make their character out to be cutscene-Dante while at the same time making the other character out to be game-Dante. If both sides are cutscene-Dante there can be no winner because cutscene-Dante is unstoppable in cutscenes. If they're both game Dante they can be killed in a second if they fuck up a dodge. Cutscene-Doom guy can go to hell and kill his way back out, game-Doom guy can accidentally fire a missile too close to himself and die. It applies to everything.
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>>380838471
I know it really is, your knowledge of the Halo universe is disgusting.

>>380838463
You're the one coming up with bullshit.

>>380838470
Yeah no
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>>380838332
>he actually thinks this is valid
It is considering that it's enough to bring Samus all the way down to the incredibly weak Power/Fusion suit. It also shows that the Grav Suit can still be taken apart by human hands.
>except that's wrong
You lose entire E-Tanks to a single swipe from an Omega Metroid. It definitely brings into question the ability of the Final Suit, as it's only a physical attack by something that can be taken down by a small set of basic missiles in Metroid 2.
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>>380838425
>video was made by Nintendo themselves

>Game videos from Nintendo World Report, the largest independent Nintendo news and information website on the Internet.
>independent
really activates my almonds.
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>>380838676
>Yea no
He actually denied it, what a faggot

You some kind of expert on MC dick, anon?
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>>380838676
>he really thinks fanfiction is actually important
Holy shit, I think Karen Traviss entered the thread
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>Halo throws Metroid into a wall
>Metroid loses her powers
Halo wins.
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>>380838692
>Metroid
>Only physical
And you're done, come back when you know what you're talking about.
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>>380838772
Yeah actually. Read the books sometime.
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>Samus is capable of running at supersonic speeds
>on Zebes
>a planet with 860 times the gravity of earth
>people think Master Chief is anywhere near the same class
Meanwhile Master Chief gets killed by a few rounds of present day ammunition
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>>380838502
Let's be real here, they'd just fuck with reckless abandon.
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>>380838819
>how to spot someone who didn't play prime and only knows about metroid to the extent of normie memes
wow anon, you're as ill equipped for this conversation as master chief is to deal with samus.
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>>380838819
>Halo throws Metroid
More like Halo tries to throw Samus, gets launched instead, And the best part is Chief would still lose even without the upgrades.
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>>380838891
>implying /ourguy/ would want filthy xeno genes
DELETE! Doomguy is PURE!
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>>380820025
Who ever gets to remodel the other's shit hole wins.
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>>380838692
>only a physical attack
>metroids
>physical
what did he mean by this?
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>>380838692
>Grav Suit can still be taken apart by human hands.
Corrections/Necessary background:
1) Varia suit, not Grav
2) Already had its defenses bypassed by the X
3) Even then required extensive surgery to remove and was and incomplete process at that
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>>380838874
>The books elaborate on MC dick
You're really selling your gay-ass fanfiction aren't you buddy?
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>>380828181
A lot of the enemies you face in Metroid are in infantile stages. 99% of Metroids outside of 2 are just baby Metroids. In Metroid prime you don't really face Shegoths much, but you fight a bunch of baby Shegoths, and those take like 4 missiles to kill. Regular Shegoths take multiple super missiles to kill. Only thing in the Halo universe that really survives a rocket are Hunters basically....
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>>380838976
Also his son Isaac Clarke!
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>>380838934
>>380838969
How do you get tricked so easily by such shitty bait?
He even calls Samus "Metroid".
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>>380838843
Take your own advice. The Omega Metroid in Metroid Fusion displayed none of the abilities of the ones in Metroid 2, using only swipes from its claws. That points to physical attacks taking away entire tanks from Samus's Final Suit, while a fully strengthened Omega Metroid only requires 40 missiles to destroy.
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>>380821981
how can metroid run if they only float around?
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>>380839036
>Samus doesn't talk about her penis in her extended canon
What kind of smut franchise are you following anon?
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>>380838518
Samus Other M voice actor voiced the trailer. Face facts Primefag, the Prime series are spin offs.

>>380838589
>Neural physics = Precursor tech, the Forerunners don't understand it but are able to destroy it with the tech behind the Halos and incorporated it in the Composer but don't understand how it works.
It's magic, dipshit it's also used in the Halo arrays ultimate weapon which is how they were even capable of destroying Precursor tech.
>Samus + planets tends to end with the planet losing
I don't remember Samus having a weapon in her arm cannon that can actually destroy planets.
>Multi-dimension/space references means things like slipspace, they aren't hoping realities. Stop making stuff up.
Reread the book, dipshit.
>Forerunner tech boils down to slipspace mastery, hard light constructs, and stellar scale, nano-sized construction abilities with a few exotics here and there. They are certainly impressive with what they have, but nothing they've done or fought compares to things the Chozo have done (which includes mastery of actual magic per Prime 2)
Dude we barely fucking know what the Chozo are capable of and from what is known, they are know where near Forerunners, do your homework junior.

Nothing in Metroid is on the same level as Timelords, are Metroidfags really this retarded?

>>380838638
I know it's annoying.
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samus would shoot master chief with her laser and he'd die like a butt
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>>380839053
>He swipes his claws!
>Ergo it's physical
I mean, I'm going to assume you're just really desperate, because surely you're not actually that retarded.
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>>380839053
Grasping at straws. Metroids' energy drain results from "physical" contact, swiping the claws thus means contact = energy drain ability triggered.
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>>380839160
>like a butt
Please refrain from using such harsh language in this kind of civil discussion. It is very rude and inconsiderate to others.
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>>380838874
>books so poorly written that the ships are almost as dense or less dense than air
Yeah they're great sources
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>>380838740
See>>380839145

>>380838772
It's called read the books faggot. Chief is genetically perfect.

>>380838890
Oh shit the gravityfags entered the thread.
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>can't even beat space marines
>thinks chief could beat Samus
The absolute state of this halofag
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Samus would more than likely win.

>Literally Mary Sue with no chance of failure because of how much of an OP cunt she was made to be.

I mean its the same tier writing where pre teen anime girls fly around in giant mechs or waive around swords that way actual tons.

So who cares.
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>>380839337
Yes, a genetically perfect soldier, what part of being a soldier requires a penis? How can something be genetically perfect when they have useless appendages?

Oh... wait.. you're just full of shit.
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>Samus takes damage just from being touched
She's as fragile as a dry leaf, meaning Master Chief only has to cough in her general direction and her suit will dramatically explode, exposing her naked form as she presents herself for his manipulating digit.
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>>380839145
>English voice actor for a Japanese game hired for a fan made video is the indicator of a game's place in canon
Okay, you are definitely a teenager or on the autism spectrum.
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>>380839337
>genetically perfect.
What does this even mean. Last I checked, xenomorphs are the perfect lifeform and MC is nothing like them
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Samus has better tech, more weapons, and is more agile. Not only can she not lose, but this is a wild mismatch in her favor.
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>>380828454
>I want the Metroid version of BOTW
Good thing no one has shit taste like you.
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>>380839406
Chief is a Gary Stu and has probability manipulation.

>>380839418
He was genetically perfect before the enhancements.

>>380839436
>being this retarded
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>>380839227
>>380839227
We don't see an energy drain ability from the Metroids after their initial phase of life. It's likely that this is something lost alongside their cold weakness as they shifted into the Alpha Metroid phase. What we do see is that, as Metroids stop being parasitic creatures, they instead are capable of produce energy based attacks. It's most likely that, from what we've actually scene from the series, that the electrical attack from the Gamma Metroid evolves into the plasma ball attack that's "spat" from the Omega Metroids, especially since the Zeta Metroid shows a spit-based attack. It has nothing to do with its claws.
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>>380839443
It means being the apex predator of your spices, you are above and beyond all humans.
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If Metroid doesn't sense an attack or is mentally constrained her suit can't protect her. Why are you all wanking over this piece of shit again?
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>>380818925
Fucking hell
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>>380839658
>apex predator of your spices
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>>380839567
I don't see anything wrong with that? Although you could argue that Metroid games tend to be open enough anyway.
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>>380839574
>>being this retarded
Not an argument. Also you keep on telling everyone to read the books without even sourcing which ones your retarded factoids actually came from or give any direct quotes, if you actually did that I'm sure you would shut some mouths up in this thread real quick.
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>>380839737
This is what peak performance looks like
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>>380838891
>picks up berserker pack
From a scale of one to DYNAMITE!!! how wrecked would Samus be after?
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>>380839145
Halo arrays disrupt neural physics, they don't need to make use of that tech to do so. A bomb will "disrupt" the structure of an apartment building, the two do not use remotely the same technology in their production.

Neural physics is part of some transcendental idea in the Halo books about how sufficiently advanced minds are capable of talking to the universe to affect change by working on a higher order of reality than minds that have yet to make the transition, it's science, not magic.

I think you're confusing the causality reconciliation stuff with reality alteration. Otherwise you mean stuff like the Line installations which fire into either real space of slipspace so again, not "other realities" or "other dimensions" in the sense of ones not already existing within and part of the existing universe they Haloverse inhabits. Alternatively you're talking about the shield worlds and how they have worlds within worlds, which is stated to be an application of slipspace tech, like I already said. You have something more specific than state it.

As to the Chozo, we can infer much about their abilities considering what Samus and their contemporaries can do.

Finally you'll see how I never said the Chozo are Time Lord level, I simply said to stop trying to raise the Forerunner to that level.
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Samus' suit is fucking insane. It stomps all over Mjolnir. She's made of crazy japanese anime bullshit.
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>>380839337
>See>>380839145
Ok so if we want to be an autistic pedant, any Halo game not developed by Bungie is non-canon and inadmissible. Go choke on Spartan cock you faggot.
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>>380828454
I'd take it, I'm the only man in existence that likes open world
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What's going on in here, my dudes?
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>>380839406
To be fair to that, the majority of Samus' bullshit feats are player driven. A ton of MC's feats are cutscene bullshit.
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>>380817647
>checks compiled feats for both from games and other canon media
samus stomps
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>>380837067
"Oum suffered a severe allergic reaction during a medical procedure and fell into a coma on January 22, 2015.[8] He died on February 1, 2015."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Oum
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>>380839649
Unlikely. The entire point of the energy drain attack is to defeat the X parasites, it makes little sense to lose it with evolutions that make them more combat capable considering that was the whole purpose. More likely the ability is refined with growth and they lose the cold vulnerability because they can control the energy absorption once they get past the base form.
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>>380839574
>He was genetically perfect before
Right, so no peen then, because being a genetically perfect soldier means no useless appendages.

No peen, what a lad. Should have called him Master Eunuch
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>Chief dies to 1 rocket near him
>Samus has 255, can fire swarms of them, and they seek their targets

Meanwhile, samus has been hit by giant space lasers, explosions, all manner of energy weapons, etc etc.

Seems pretty 1 sided to me
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>>380839406
Are you actually implying that the west doesn't do unrealistic far out there sci-fi?
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who remembers this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMcxCjsz6Lo
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>>380840164
Those rockets could be equal to the power of a sneeze
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>>380840245
Literally everyone who posted in this thread.
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>>380840146
>genetically perfect
Being incapable of procreation would make one genetically imperfect by definition.
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Better idea: How well would Samus fare in Halo, and how well would Master Chief fare in Metroid? Assuming Chief can find weapons that can hurt metroids.
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>>380839952
You think I'm calling Prime non-canon or something?

>Halo arrays disrupt neural physics, they don't need to make use of that tech to do so. A bomb will "disrupt" the structure of an apartment building, the two do not use remotely the same technology in their production.
Halo Arrays use them to disrupt the neural systems which is why anything without one can survive the blast.

>Finally you'll see how I never said the Chozo are Time Lord level, I simply said to stop trying to raise the Forerunner to that level.
I never said they were anywhere near the level either, I just said they were crazy advanced.
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>>380840305
A soldier doesn't need to procreate anon, nice try.

Not to mention by then gene therapy is advanced enough to not need sex for reproduction, so why would he need a dick? Just gets in the way in his suit.
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>>380839658
No it doesn't. Basic science people, genetically perfect is a nonsense statement as it implies there is some perfect state when that's not the way evolution works. Now, if you had to ascribe some semblance of actual meaning to the term (for a non-genetically engineered being) it would simply mean free of any genetic malady with all genetic advantages being simultaneously present (with the exception of any that are mutually exclusive). For what I mean by that, most Olympic level athletes (of the metal earning variety) have genetic mutations that give them that little extra edge in performance. Chief likely has all of them, the one for endurance, the one for increased muscle growth, the one for improved lung capacity, etc...

In sum, it basically means he's Captain America.
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>>380840349
chief dies instantly with his armor
samus solos the halo universe
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>>380840349
Masterchiefs body and skill/experience is better than samuses. Samuses technology is better than chiefs.
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>>380840208
not that guy, but Japan does have some big mary sue tendencies thanks to shounen and long running franchises. At least in the west sci-fi is usually portrayed with modern warfare as inspiration so Master Chief isn't destroying planets single handed, instead just being incredibly effective at military operations.
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>>380840119
Well it depends, because we don't really hear anything about the way Metroids handle X other than that the Chozo bred them to combat the parasite. It's possible that the way that they combat the X is just through their biology, as with Samus, we never see an energy drain ability. She's just able to absorb the X as they enter her body, so it might be something to do with their physiology in general that keeps them from being taken over by the parasite. It is said that she uses their energy, but we can't be sure that's an Energy Drain, because you know, we do that by eating animals and shit.

But the cold weakness is easier to see, because they grow that thick hide/exoskeleton/whatever. The cold weakness most likely stemmed from their gelatinous form, and as they matured into the Alpha Metroid, they seal in, even though that enables their insides to be ruptured by the kinetic force of missiles and bombs and shite.
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>>380840349
>Samus in Halo
Earth never gets invaded, nobody even learns about the flood until they find the rubble years later.
>Chief in Metroid
Federation gets a workout. Chief could probably manage something Fusion tier with that same help, assuming Cortana is with him.
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>>380840349
Chief has a good go of it until he runs out of ammo and realizes he can't jump straight up 30 feet. Without any tech infrastructure Cortana is useless. Best case scenario he starves to death in a cave.

Samus considers fighting her way through hordes of covenant, says fuck it and blows up the nearest sun instead. Someone shows up just in time to see the leftovers and lament a lack of survivors, but we see Samus' gunship fly off in the distance.
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>>380840467
What do you actually base this on?
>Samus has had more training, by instructors that make MC's look like children if that
>Has been in much, much more combat
>Somehow MC has more experience and skill :^)
Bit of a stretch there lad.
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>>380840349
Chief would be part of the Federation so he would just get their weapons and they do have freeze guns. Problem here in this universe Chief doesn't have any connections with the Chozo so he wouldn't be able to use their weapons or abilities. Samus would get passed the Covenant but she would run into trouble for not being a Reclaimer and to make matters worse since her suit has organic components she will be Flood food.

>>380839905
These were meant for you in this post>>380840359
>Halo Arrays use them to disrupt the neural systems which is why anything without one can survive the blast.

>I never said they were anywhere near the level either, I just said they were crazy advanced.
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>>380840401
>Not to mention by then gene therapy is advanced enough to not need sex for reproduction, so why would he need a dick? Just gets in the way in his suit.
Canonically in halo cloning technology is shitty and imperfect, its why the clones deployed to replace the kidnapped Spartan-II subjects died prematurely from genetic defects. And we are talking about genetic perfection, a member of a species that can't independently reproduce is useless to the species in the long term. That said in 20 years we will probably be playing Halo 24 starring Gary Stu-117's perfect half black half arabic daughter because the Halo writers are hacks.
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>>380823336
Is this fanmade?
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>>380840426
Yes

>>380840440
>>380840545
>>380840636
See>>380840681
Samus can't even blow up a planet with her own power.
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>>380840467
Samus was genetically altered with alien DNA using superscience and has been trained as a warrior from the day she was born. Created specifically to be the one who fulfills a prophecy, the perfect killing machine.

Chief was given some surgeries, some drugs, and some genetic modification after he was born. His training didn't start until he was 11, and he wasn't even the best in his group at anything. He doesn't get by because he's good, he gets by because he's lucky.
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>>380840535
Occam's razor friend. Your explanation requires 2 separate assumptions. 1) Energy drain is an ability of only base form metroids that disappears with successive evolutions for some reason and 2) Metroids' effectiveness against X is the result of another separate and never before mentioned ability.

My theory requires 1) Metroids have energy drain abilities that persist and improve with their changing form (which also improves over time as demonstrated in the games)

The Metroids are an engineered species with the explicit purpose of killing off X parasite, why engineer in a separate energy drain ability that has nothing to do with their primary and only function?
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>>380840865
>Chief was given some surgeries, some drugs, and some genetic modification after he was born. His training didn't start until he was 11, and he wasn't even the best in his group at anything. He doesn't get by because he's good, he gets by because he's lucky.
>don't know shit about Halo the post
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>>380840676
While I would agree that Samus is more skilled due to the caliber of her instructors and adversaries, if you want to talk about sheer combat experience Master Chief is less a soldier and more a human super weapon. he has known nothing but war and combat since he was a child. Samus has experienced similar things, but I think its fair to say her universe experiences a comparative stability that the Halo universe hasn't known in MC's lifetime.
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>>380840349
Chief's biggest issue would be the Prime games, but it depends on how much help he gets from the Federation and the Luminoth. Probably would get his ass kicked by Metroid Prime unless the Phazon from the Pirate Captain also supercharges his suit, and he'd probably succumb to his PED like the other Hunters. Otherwise, he could probably handle the rest of the series, albeit with more difficulty. The biggest issue would just be movement, as vertical would probably be in issue. As long as he has 2D's wall jumps, it shouldn't be a problem

Samus would just Space Jump to the end.
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SAMUS IS HUGE

THAT MEANS SHE HAS HUGE GUTS
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>>380824097
This thread is now about how powerful the child of Samus and John would be.
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>>380840917
samus would slap chief away in and out of suit lmao
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>>380840957
>he'd probably succumb to his PED like the other Hunters
He can't even be infected by the logic plague, what makes you think PED would affect him?
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>>380840845
Yes, I saw it. Chief joins the Federation, dies just like their mooks usually do. What's your point?
>Flood infect Samus
Considering Samus has not one but two cases of parasitic DNA that are more advanced than the Flood that's outright bullshit, the real danger is the logic bullshit infecting her power suit but even that is questionable, since the Chozo where far more advanced than anything in the halo-verse, assuming that it does though, Samus has shown the ability to override that fuckery all the same and carry on, and don't even get me started on a Phazon infected Samus going ham, it's really just asking which incarnation of Samus we're talking here, but most if not all of them would utterly destroy the flood.
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This thread is stupid but here is my observation from Reading though half of it.
Halo Fans justify that that universe would win using primarily a bunch of Expanded universe shit like Books and stuff which have a questionable amount of canon status at best due to the nature of not being the primary medium.
Metroid fans justify that that universe would win using primarily game canon and things actually stated in the series primary medium and thus more concrete.
it would be different if halo was primarily a Book series, but its not, its a videogame series and the books and stuff are at best just extremely loose interpretations of events and barely even canon
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>>380841027
It would be the most Mary Sue character ever born.

Do you think Samus lays eggs?
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>>380840913
That's literally in the books. Halsey picked him because he called a flipped coin a bunch of times in a row. His trainers all say how his marks are fine, but he's not the strongest or fastest, but he's a decent leader and he gets lucky.
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>>380840957

Ridley would rip him apart
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>>380840676
>>Somehow MC has more experience and skill :^)
>Bit of a stretch there lad.

Well I mean Samus is like in here 20s? Yeah she was trained to fight as a child like chief was but.

Chief is an actual child soldier or was. He hasn't stopped fighting since, no breaks.
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>>380841090
>Yes, I saw it. Chief joins the Federation, dies just like their mooks usually do. What's your point?
>Metroidfags showing just how much they don't no shit about Halo again.
>X more advanced than the Flood
>still not knowing shit about Halo
X has a cure, Flood don't
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>>380841110
Obviously, the question is whether they're Metroid eggs or bird eggs, or meburdoid eggs
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>>380840913
despite semantics downplaying the shit SPARTAN-IIs went through, and the fact his training started as early as 8 years old, the major points of his post are correct. He excelled in intangible qualities like leadership, and maybe you could infer he was particularly genius in small unit tactics but he literally is relevant because he is 'lucky.'
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>>380841116
He was 6 years old, and is a biological killing machine, the only Spartan II that is a hyper lethal vector.
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>>380841146
What if he had Anthony's Plasma cannon?

>>380841210
I wouldn't call it a 'cure'... Considering it rapes your DNA. Who knows what kind of side effects it has that wasn't talked about in the games.
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>>380841245
See>>380841286
Bungie retconned that shit because they didn't like it, he is the only Spartan that can wipe out empires.
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>>380840957
Chief also has significant firepower issues. The Federation has been trying to duplicate Samus' arsenal (let's ignore no Samus = nothing to duplicate) and has vastly inferior versions. We see a random Fed soldier in Super (or maybe he's another hunter, it really doesn't matter) and he's dead before killing off Kraid.

On skill alone Chief likely survives longer, but compared to Samus he's handicapped in durability, firepower, and movement. No Varia or Gravity suit makes whole chunks of Zebes off limits. No Chozo tech power suit means Luminoth tech won't work with his. Federation weapons didn't work too well against the Ing. John's lucky, but he isn't lucky enough to survive Samus' world without Chozo intervention.
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>>380841210
>X has a cure, flood don't
Yes, this proves that the Chozo were much, much better than the Forerunners, good job repeating a point made several times before.
>Chief would somehow still be fine versus energy ghosts, swarms of parasites none of his weapons actually can touch, running around alone on hostile worlds without supplies or sustenance
Uhuh, I don't know shit :^)

Chief gets cut once, his gel props him up for an hour or so until he dies from an infection, his shout for a medic falling on deaf ears.
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>>380841210
X has a cure because the Metroidverse is vastly more advanced then the Halo universe.
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>>380841245
>"Like the others, you were strong and swift and brave. A natural leader. But you had something they didn't. Something no one saw... but me. Can you guess? Luck."
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>>380841286
>Lucky

Both characters are hilariously lucky. Bungie just uses it to excuse bad writing.
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>>380841210
>X has a cure, Flood don't
Factually incorrect. The Humans (of Human-Forerunner War era) developed a cure for the Flood and destroyed it out of spite when it was clear they were going to lose the war and be eradicated by the Forerunners.
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>>380840110
He's referring to the writer of HSOTD as the one that had a heart attack and died, not Monty.
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>>380841356
>Bungie retconned that
post proofs or fuck off.
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>>380841545
>>380839406
>>380839406
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>>380840903
It's not saying that Metroids have a separate ability and more that they always have some kind of energy manipulation. It's more likely that changes to their physiology shift this ability more to offense/defense, as they shift away from being parasitic. It's definitely something that's refined over time, as we see it start with the energy attacks from the Gamma and the spit attacks from the Zeta combine within the Omega and Queen forms. Essentially, I'm half agreeing with you. We see that Metroids, even in their infant states, are able to work with energy. This is most likely the purpose of their large nuclei, as we see them keep it even though it stays a weakpoint through their entire lives, as it's the organ where they process energy.

It's also potentially true that this is why the Alpha stage lacks any kind of offensive measure, as it's when the Metroid is beginning to grow its organ in a way for defense once it's in a safe environment and has consumed enough energy to leave its parasitic form.
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>>380841339
Anthony's cannon is inferior to Samus' arm cannon. You're asking the Chief to do more with less.
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>>380841568
Citation needed.
"I read it in a book once go buy the book" does not count.
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>>380841407
>Chief gets cut once, his gel props him up for an hour or so until he dies from an infection, his shout for a medic falling on deaf ears.
>Says I don't know shit but he doesn't even know that Chief's suit automatically repairs and heals damage.

>>380841568
Silentium confirmed that Flood just played like the so called cure worked but it actually didn't. The Flood just backed off because they saw humanity as the true heir their mantle, the one that the Forerunners ruined. The Flood has no cure.
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Forerunners
>barely managed to contain a universal threat to life at the cost of their entire civilisation
Chozo
>managed to successfully contain multiple different potential threats to life as if it was nothing, then later on fucked off from reality of their own decision
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>>380831397
Anon...YOUR face is scared and probably ugly as fuck
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>>380840349
Samus saves Earth and the rest of the galaxy fairly easily. Chief's quest ends at the very first tunnel that can only be traversed by becoming a morph ball.
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>>380841718
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Human-Flood_war
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>>380841637
No, the energy drain is endemic to the Metroid DNA, and it's this characteristic that lets Samus absorb the X which fusion states several times.

The other forms of Metroid don't just shift from y to z, they get extra ability to deal with different forms of X, the basic Metroids are capable of dealing with the basic X, while the larger Metroids can also deal with more combatant forms of X, and are also more resistant to things like cold which the X have already shown to be able to use against the Metroids. There is nothing at all to suggest that higher forms of Metroid can't suddenly energy drain, and you're desperately trying to ratify pulling something out of your ass.

Omega metroids claws are no less of an energy drain than normal Metroids bite, fuck off with your headcanon.
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>>380841848
>His suit automatically repairs and heals damage
I did literally mention that you illiterate fuckwit.
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>>380841617
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs2TPo7z0sM
>2017 and still don't know this
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>>380841718
Learn to research. You don't even need to go to the books. The 6th terminal in the Halo Anniversary edition:

343 Guilty Spark: "When the plan to maintain the Halo Array was created, it was a point of some contention whether we should preserve any remnant of the Flood infection. Many thought this unwise, as there was a notable chance that one day one of our containment facilities might be breached. Those who held this belief were almost successful at convincing the Ecumene Council to destroy the last Flood samples..."

As the infection form reaches the surface, the Halo's landscape is rapidly transformed into a Flood-infested wasteland.

343 Guilty Spark: "...but oddly enough, it was the Librarian who decided otherwise. And I believe she was correct. I know, in a way I cannot logically explain, that there exists a way to actually defeat the Flood."

Various shots of a large Flood infestation are shown.

343 Guilty Spark: "To immunize...to cure. I still struggle with multiple layers of memory of fighting the Flood, but I know this cure is possible, even though the full genius of the Forerunners was unable to achieve it."

The view switches back to Guilty Spark, who is observing the containment tank.

343 Guilty Spark: "The Forerunners' ancient enemy held and used that knowledge once. But it was denied to us. And without samples to further study, that cure will never again be found. Of course, I have no reason to believe that here lies the entirety of the parasite. It may be waiting in the frozen void beyond this galaxy, or worse...inexorably drifting toward us."

The tiny infection form is silently floating inside the tank.

343 Guilty Spark: "I don't know what survives out beyond my installation, but I know that in order for anything to survive I have to protect this installation and its quarantine very carefully. Yes. The Librarian was right to store it, to examine it, continue to seek a cure."
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>>380841875
>Chozo
Don't forget they thought it was enough to leave behind a Human-birb girl they hand picked to be the Goku of the galaxy and so far their judgment is pretty fucking sound.
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>>380841875
>then later on fucked off from reality of their own decision and got corrupted by Phazon
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>>380841395
It depends on where we put him, as the Federation definitely had the capabilities to create the gear that Sylux uses in Metroid Prime Hunters. He shouldn't require too much, as long as he's still able to use Missiles, but he's definitely going to have issues with other enemies, such as Mother Brain and the Hyper Beam.

Luminoth tech probably won't matter in the first place anyway, as even if the Light Suit was a separate entity, it still requires the Light of Aether. I forget if there were segments on Norfair in which you had to completely swim in lava, but it's a question of how much the Mark VI suit can take. Norfair's more heat than pressure, as it's volcanic instead of core, but "regulating temperature" and surviving the heat from atmospheric reentry doesn't mean you can stand in a volcano. It's definitely an interesting question on whether he can beat Zebes, but like I said above, I already agree he's not taking on Aether.
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>>380841997
considering that samus has successfully finished off and destroyed pretty much every universal threat that the Chozo contained they have really good sense of judgement
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>>380841995
See>>380841848
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>>380842107
X are the only universal threat in Metroid, all Samus enemies are galactic threats.
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>>380842127
Maybe if the Halo lore would stop contradicting itself at every chapter we could have a coherent discussion.
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>>380842127
>>x
>See >>y
Quoting incorrect information doesn't give you proof of anything.
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>>380817647
The one that can jump 30 feet in the air, has 10 energy tanks, and can freeze anything solid. Chozo tech is at a level far beyond anything Chief at his disposal.
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>>380842252
Hey sometimes you make mistakes

>>380842219
Maybe you should start reading the lore more, maybe you'll learn something.
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>>380842202
Phazon was a universal threat, Metroids were a universal threat even the ING where a universal threat (they could literally launch themselves at other planets and infect them as well spreading and growing)
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>>380835856
You had to fucking remind me.
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>>380842329
That's a very big maybe considering no one in this thread seems to have a clear idea what the fuck is going on and everyone is claiming something different.

Sounds like all I'd learn is that the Halo universe is a poorly written and incoherent mess, and I already learned as much from this thread.
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>>380842312
Chief can jump 30 feet without a suit upgrade, and once again Samus has weaker shields then Chief, that's why she has so many. You Metroid fans never did the math on how much damage Samus shield take, did you?
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>>380836923
>she also has herpes
harpies*
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>>380841848
>>380842127
Still the issue of Sgt Johnson surviving Flood infection.

Here's a good rundown on the status of a cure:
http://www.haloarchive.com/catalog/is-there-a-cure-for-the-flood/
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>>380842431
>Chief shields can't stop a rocket
>Samus shield can can hold against dozens of impacts from building sized foes
Stop going full retard anon.
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>>380842431
>Chief can jump 30 feet without a suit upgrade
Samus does that on a planet 800+ times the gravity of earth.

Samus can instantly regenerate her energy by killing things or destroying random stuff, no delay.
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>>380842374
Please delet this, its single mothers like this that produce sociopathic incels at best, and serial killers at worst.
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>>380842347
Phazon was galactic, Metroids were galactic, Ing were planetary. X is the most dangerous think in the Metroid series.

>>380842412
Says this when Other M's story is pure garbage maybe Metroid should be better written.
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>>380841907
There's nothing really to suggest that the Omega's claws can do energy attacks, as the only one with an external appendage that could do so is the Gamma Metroid and its horn, not the spikes on the side which would eventually form into class. We also see with every Metroid form afterwards that the energy manipulation is shifted inwards, via the Spit attacks from the Zeta, Omega, and Queen. There's nothing that makes it always an energy drain that comes from just touching another organic being.
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>>380842461
What are the symptoms of harpies?
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>>380842431
He'd get absolutely destroyed bud, the same way Goku would curbstomp Superman. This isn't a fair comparison.
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>>380842461
>harpies*
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>>380842534
>still putting gameplay mechanic over actual canon

>>380842564
>Samus does that on a planet 800+ times the gravity of earth.
This bullshit again, that's not canon, dipshit.
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>>380842625
Zeta Metroid takes out three energy tanks just from ramming Samus, Chief can crash through armored vehicles and his shields don't even break.
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>>380842678
>This bullshit again, that's not canon, dipshit.
Zebes literally has 800+ times the gravity of earth. She can still jump 30 feet in the air and run at super sonic speeds. It's canon
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So let me get this straight

Chief:
>Is stronger than a normal human

Samus:
>Is stronger than a normal human
>Can jump 30 feet
>Can hold 280 missiles in ammo
>Sets off bombs that clear everything in a 50 foot radius through walls
>Can turn into a ball and roll around
>Can run at 120 mph
>Can survive being immersed in lava without any harm
>Can fly through the air indefinitely destroying everything in her path
>Has autotarget tracking and can shoot through walls
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>>380831397
samus has seen way worse shit than a fucked up face
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>>380842591
>Phazon was galactic
>It literally opens rifts in space to cross vast distances
Universal.

Metroids are debatable, they could arguably spread and consume everything since there's nothing to stop them once the spess pirates fucked with them.

Ing are definitely universal considering the only thing keeping them from spreading all over everywhere was the Luminoth, and they were hell-bent on taking over everything.


>>380842605
>There is nothing really to suggest that the Omega's claws can do energy attacks
You mean beside the fact that it's a Metroid, right? You didn't seriously just suggest we ignore the most important part so that your bullshit can have some credence to it? Fuck off retard.
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>>380842625
Man I love that picture of Samus. Forgot who the artist was.

>>380842605
What? It's not like there is an effect with the normal metroid energy drain. You just get the continuous loss of energy tanks from its continuous contact. With the Omega contact is limited by the duration of the claw swipe.
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>>380839567
One hopes the implication is that they want a good game that iterates on the basic gameplay type in a new way that succeeds wildly and makes big waves. Open World Metroid would be ass.
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>>380842789
The log that deals with Zebes's mass lists a unit for explosive yield, not, well, mass. You can't really take that as something accurate as much as they just want to use [big number]. Not to mention, we never see her jump higher on planets with varying gravitation pulls. It's just something you can't take at face value.
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>>380842784
>using a fan game as evidence
Metroids are super powered energy sucking weapons of mass destruction anyway though,
Chief would get wrecked by one even harder.
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>>380842678
>Putting gameplay over canon
The only way it's even remotely fair, since in Metroid cannon the only thing that can even harm the suit is concentrated plasma beams, and even that barely gets the job done.
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>>380842827
>>380842789

I dont know either games lore or canon but if Samus can really do all that shit thats just retarded.
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>>380842921
Are you retarded?
>1 Teratonne or metric teraton (unit of mass) is equal to 1,000,000,000,000 metric tons. A metric ton is exactly 1000 kilograms (SI base unit) making a teratonne equal to 1000000000000000 kilograms
Meanwhile it's ok to take the halo books as canon when their numbers dictate that UNSC ships are less dense than air?
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>>380842860
Well no it's not ignoring the fact that it's a Metroid considering that the entire basis of it is built on energy attacks we can actually see the Metroid do and build towards throughout their life cycle, rather than an assumption based on one element from their infantile and parasitic stage of life.
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>>380828454
Depends.

If they throw away power ups with which you can unlock new areas I'm going to suicide bob-omb Nintendo's HQ.

But I'm all for larger areas, this is something that always felt a bit off about the 3D Metroids.
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>>380842827
Now come on anon be fair, Chief has another big thing going for him
>Is lucky

It's actually kind of sad when you think about it, his strongest trait isn't even something he really does, it's literally "he has plot armor but we're calling it luck :^)"
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>>380842789
No she can't, stop with your fanmade bullshit.
She runs normally on a human space station, humans been to Zebes, Nightmare uses supergravity and Samus can barely move unless she has the Gravity Suit, animals, plants and wildlife can live on Zebes, it rains normally there, Samus moves normally on Earth in Other M cutscenes.
You can't be this retarded to not understand physics and how it works, anon.

>>380842827
>Can jump 30 feet
>Can run at 120 mph
Chief can do this too.
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>>380843057
Again, you're making shit up in absence of evidence, cut that out.
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>>380843042
High jump makes samus jump 30 feet
she can hold 230 missiles 50 super missiles 50 power bombs (wipes the whole screen)
morph ball standard
speed boost upgrade -> sanic
varia suit -> ez lava
space jump -> how the fuck does MC match this
spaser beam = good luck hiding behind crates
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>>380842860
Everyone can do this in Halo, I guess that means they're universal threats too, huh?
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>>380843142
>chief can run at 120 mph and atomize solid walls
you're full of shit kek
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>>380843142
where in halo does MC get the power to do anything remotely on par with metroid's high jump / screw attack / speed boost
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>>380825415
Because if all characters that abilities like that (think superman, spiderman, the flash) would be fully fleshed out in games, there wouldn't be a game anymore to play.
There wouldn't be any conflict anymore.
Some characters are so OP lore-wise that they just rofflestomp everything else.
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>>380843102
Lucky doesn't matter. Both characters are lucky. Lucky is another word for the chosen or, or plot armor, or the boy who lived. It doesn't mean anything beyond "fated to do something."
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>>380842098
> Federation definitely had the capabilities to create the gear that Sylux uses
Debatable. One popular theory is that this is where Samus' various upgrades go, she turns them over to the Feds to help them advance. No Samus means no tech samples. Additionally, the Sylux tech doesn't even work right as stated in the game and is inferior to Samus.
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>>380842949
Samus Returns, you stupid faggot.

>>380843004
I'm talking about Halo you idiot.
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>>380843231
Humanity is debatably a universal threat, should it choose to destroy things, yes. Flood are definitely a universal threat and even the Forerunners can be considered as such.
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>>380843262
T-the books! right guise.... guise?
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>>380843279
>shows up too late to stop ridley at the space station
>starts game by being stripped of her powers by an unlucky critical slam against the wall

when does samus ever get lucky?
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>>380843142
It's canon
>She runs normally on a human space station
Versus plowing through the walls?
>humans been to Zebes
in suits
>Nightmare uses supergravity and Samus can barely move unless she has the Gravity Suit
It's never specified how much Nightmare can manipulate gravity
>animals, plants and wildlife can live on Zebes
It's like animals can evolve to live in different environments
>it rains normally there
no it doesn't
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>>380843234
>>380843262
This is what happens when you don't watch the vidocs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H2wIB7h-9k
2:36
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>>380843286
No anon, WE are talking about Masterchief VS Samus, YOU are being a faggot desperately moving goalposts to try and stay afoot.
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>>380843414
>no it doesn't
It's been a while, but isn't it raining on Zebes when you land?
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>>380843234
>and atomize solid walls
Not that guy but... where did you even??
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>>380843183
Nah it's using what we know about the Metroid instead of thinking they keep the exact same physiological characteristic throughout its entire life cycle, while pinning its growth of hide and loss of cold weakness on the supposed foresight of the Chozo expecting some "combative form of X" to have access to cold weaponry, but not missile.
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>>380843491
It's acid rain made of god knows what.
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>>380843539
Doesn't deal damage though, and when you first land you don't even have the Varia suit.
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>>380843449
so instead of running 10 mph he slides 15 mph
as compared to samus who becomes an F40PH and slams through brick walls at 120 mph and then flies through the air 300 feet
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>>380820025
They both have sex until one cums.
Samus probably wins since MC is a fucking virgin.
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>>380843585
At the cost of draining herself down to 30 Energy and can't turn corners well at all
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>>380843519
when samus is in speed boost mode she glows and destroys destructible walls / damage enemies. The games make a big gating mechanic out of walls you can only destroy by running through them in speed mode
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>>380843529
Gee it's almost like the Metroids take different forms which adapt to different circumstances to adapt to a foe that is extremely adaptable while retaining their main trait of energy drain which is their one weapon against this foe.

A Metroid that cannot energy drain makes no fucking sense, what the fuck would it even do? How the fuck would the Omega Metroid have beaten the SA-X without the energy drain you dense fool.
>B-but it's not the energy drain that lets them absorb X, it's something else!
Fuck off.
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>>380843582
It's acid rain. I remember even reading it in the manual specifically stating that it's not normal rain. It may not be lower norfair potent acid, but whatever that stuff is, it's not normal rain
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>>380843310
>Humanity is debatably a universal threat
You can't be serious.

>>380843414
You don't know shit about your series. Shut the fuck up. If that planet had that much gravity it would be a black hole, Elysia is a gas giant and guess where the Chozo built their city, in the sky because they couldn't build it any further within the planet because the gravity was too great, that fucking kills you 800 bullshit gravity right there you fucking dumbass faggot. 2017 and people are still using a typo as reference.
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>>380843652
yeah but he never said chief could atomize walls it what im saying
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>>380843725
Fair enough.
Never read the manual and because it wasn't doing damage like all the other acid I just assumed is was normal rain.
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Samus

her tech is thousands of years ahead, it makes her stronger, faster and way more durable than MC
She has at the very least the same training and experience as MC.
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>>380843402
>when does samus ever get lucky?

>Oh no. Ridley stripped me of my powers by causing a reactor explosion that slammed me so hard it crashed my powerups!
>Good thing this nearby planet just SOMEHOW happens to have every single power up I lost and then some more!

If that's not fucking luck I don't know what is.
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>>380843736
>"I don't understand the concept of a universal threat"
Well, I wish I learned that sooner, wouldn't have wasted my time.
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>>380843454
You brought up Master Chief dying from a game mechanic in Halo I told your unknowledgeable cunt ass that gameplay mechanics in Halo aren't canon.

>>380843585
>so instead of running 10 mph he slides 15 mph
Gameplay son
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>>380843823
>using a non-canon manga
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>>380843720
Metroids can energy drain at every stage, but simple contact isn't enough. The base form uses it's mandibles to clamp onto it's pray and begin the draining process. As a metroid evolves you can see the clampy bits eventually evolve into the Omega Metroid mouth. Since the evolution was designed by the chozo, this make sense that this evolution would be a powerful physical combatant capable of defeating a foe and leaving it helpless so it can then use its energy drain to suck the X out of it while the creature is still alive instead of allowing the X to escape from the corpse.
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>>380843896
So you're telling me that the spartan suits can withstand missile fire?

Besides, you're missing the point by an absurd margin, you brought up we shouldn't compare "gameplay" and I countered that comparing gameplay is the only time when it's remotely fair, since canon Samus is near invulnerable whereas canon MC is just a particularly lucky space marine.
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>>380843720
>to adapt to different circumstances
Nah they have a set in stone life cycle, as we see whether they're on or off Planet SR388. The only time a Metroid has really changed is when it got fucked over by Phazon, which is, you know, something that happens to everyone. Plus, it's saying they always have the energy manipulation, which we see in every single form of Metroid, except for the Alpha which is shifting around its physiology. That's probably the only one that you can say has a physical energy attack, as the horn he rams you with grows into the one that the Gamma uses.

>how the fuck would the Omega Metroid have beaten the SA-X without the energy drain
Consume it like Samus does after destroying the physical form and exposing the Core X
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>>380843968
How does that deter from his point? Please leave if you're not actually going to discuss.
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MC couldn't even beat a WH40K space marine, let alone a real super soldier like Samus Aran.
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>>380844070
>since canon Samus is near invulnerable whereas canon MC is just a particularly lucky space marine.
Wrong, Samus can be hurt by energy based attacks and melee, if her mental spirit isn't there, she can take critical damage and the suit will shut off, she can't put the suit on unless she has a lot of mental concentration. Master Chief is a hyper lethal vector and lucky at the same time and don't have those weaknesses Samus has except energy and physical attacks.
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>>380843972
... Did you completely miss how the X works? The X doesn't typically leave the host alive, there was but one exception in fusion where the X kept a scientist alive, what the X typically do is consume their host and learn their form, which they can then adopt, you see this through the X moving along the screen and taking the form of different enemies if you don't absorb them after you kill them.

By your logic then, the Omega Metroid would have absolutely no means of actually defeating an X, which basically means you're insisting on headcanon that only works if the source material is contradictory. Again, cut that shit out.
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>>380844126
I've been discussing the whole thread.

>>380844213
>thinking Samus can last 5 seconds in WH40K
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>>380843736
The gravity of a black hole compared to Zebes would be greater by a factor of 12 zeros. You're going to have to source skytown being built due to too much gravity on Elysia because I can't find that anywhere.

Meanwhile you're ok with MC surviving atmospheric reentry as if there was any way a suit could make anything survive the impact.
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>>380844379
Were you that one guy on spacebattles that got BTFO'd by all the guys on there that knew actual physics?
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>>380844302
The fuck are you on about. I explicitly stated that the Omega hurts the x clone/host/whatever and then drains them before the X can escape/dematerialize the body.

Besides, it's all headcanon until nintendo prints something about how Omega Metroids eat X parasites
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>>380844264
>Citing Other M
No.
>Samus can be hurt by energy based attacks
No, it is specifically stated only plasma will work, and that the federation literally has no means to harm the SA-X so you get frost missiles to stall it instead, even a power bomb does nothing.
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You only lose health when you're shine sparking anon, not speed boosting. And there ain't no corners in the air.
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>>380844379
I'm this guy>>380844464
http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Elysia
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Samus would win sure but give them both the same armaments and armor and Chief is the victor.

Samus hasn't fought the same kind of wars Chief did and with so little at that. She always had everything she needed.

Still both my favorite series.
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>>380844464
No idea what you're talking about, but if there was a relative argument that was made, maybe you should consider making it
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>>380844213
Samus would just be on par with one space marine
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>>380844590
>>380844337

Samus would single handedly destroy the chaos gods and cram a missile down your dead false god's throat.
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>>380844472
>No, it is specifically stated only plasma will work, and that the federation literally has no means to harm the SA-X so you get frost missiles to stall it instead, even a power bomb does nothing.
And guess who uses plasma, genius.

>No.
Canon like Halo Reach even though like Reach I act like it never happened.
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>>380844575
>Chief is used to supply drops, logistics and intelligence support and more
>Samus is used to doing it all herself
>Chief can't handle big threats in face to face combat and has no experience in the matter
>Samus does that shit before lunch
>Chief runs around beating "elites"
>Samus defeated the elite of the elite of the galaxy, then beat the massive threat that was at the end of that too

Come on faggot, even without the suits John would be minced meat.
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>>380844559
That just says skytown was built up there where the atmosphere wasn't so toxic. Nothing to do with the gravity
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>>380844575
>Samus hasn't fought the same kind of wars Chief did and with so little at that.

>Samus literally has to shoot random bricks to uncover passages or look for false walls to upgrade her arsenal
>Chief only needs to kill the next mook with a gun to get "an upgrade"

Yeah nah. Even in the digging through dirt department Samus has Chief beat.
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>>380844673
Samus is a biological human in powered armor with strong weaponary
Space marines are bioengineered superhuman colossi in powered armor with strong weaponary
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>>380844676
But how many shots will it take to burn through all the energy tanks?
How many shots would miss?
And much damage would Samus do in return?
How will MC fare against Samus spamming Power Bombs?
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>>380844738
I guess you missed the part on the website that called it a "Gas Giant".
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>>380819619
It is.
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>>380844575
Give them both the same armaments and armor and Samus still wins because her genetic engineering and training is superior in every way. But this completely defeats the point of the conversation because both of these heroes rely on powersuits to do the crazy shit they do.
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>>380844805
What does it being a gas giant have to do with anything? Nothing suggests that the Chozo built Skytown in the sky because the gravity was too great for them to handle
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>>380844795
We can't really tell unless there was a canon batle between the two, and if Chief used a havok, he would vaporize Samus.
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>>380844793

Samus is not biologically human. She is a weapon genetically perfected and trained to be the universe's ultimate super soldier by a race more technologically advanced than anything in the warhammer universe.
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>>380844887
Gas Giants have a higher gravity than a regular planet. In Halo the Forerunners used the same technique of construction for their gas minds on the Gas Giant, Threshold.
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>>380844793
Samus is a genetically engineered human as well thanks to the Chozo infusing her with their shit.
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>>380844909
How would MC even survive using a nuke?
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>>380844793
>Samus is a biological human
What the fuck are you talking about anon? She's had genetic engineering beyond what the prats from the Halo universe could even dream about. Not only that but her DNA has fused with an gotten traits from not one but two apex predators.

The last thing Samus is biologically is a human.

Also what constitutes strong weaponry for a Halo marine is a toothpick in the Metroid setting, nothing they can dish out would even dent the power suit let alone some of the more ridiculous variants like the phazon suit.
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>>380844972
Not him but Master Chief is this too.
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>>380845049
Bubble Shield
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>>380845059
Except the humans in Halo are technologically inferior even to their own opposition, seriously anon get your shit together.
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>>380844989
Sure, but nothing suggests that's why the Chozo built Skytown where it was. In fact, the only reason given for its altitude is because of the section of gasses being less toxic than the lower levels.
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>>380844730
You forgot the part where she does all that with her ridiculously powerful armor and weapons.

In the human covenant war, after the fall of reach, humanities chance of survival with its mean of defense was less than 1%

Out numbered is were Chief and Samus are similar but Chief was always out gunned.
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>>380845140
Humans have advance significantly after Halo 3 anon. Keep up with the times.
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>>380845050
You can't cite Fusion's last suit while also citing weapons long driven inert after the events of Prime. Not to mention that Samus at the end of her series is mostly just a hybrid. Space Marines are not humans as much as they are a stew of super engineer organs packed under bullet proof organic plating and poured into xbox hueg power armor. And it's hard to say nothing would put a dent in the power suit when not only an eletrical surge knocked out the Varia Suit, but itty bitty ayys rip apart the Power Suit.
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>>380845112
And after the 3 seconds he melts in the superheated atmosphere or dies to the sudden radiation?

I could actually see him surviving the radiation, his suit is probably built with that in mind considering it's built for space survival. I really don't see him surviving the super heat though.
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>>380845183
It pretty much proves your Zebes gravity is bullshit
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>>380845221
Yes, and the Chozo have literally ascended to a higher plane of existence, what's your point? Still pales in comparison.

>>380845190
Except we have canonical examples of Samus doing fine and even fighting almost on par with her suit even without it while Chief is nothing but a slightly stronger human without his.
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>>380845292
Bubble Shield pretty much protects against anything as long as you're inside it.
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>>380845303
How?
Is your line of logic that solid planets can't be more massive than gas giants? Because that's not true
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>>380844776
>Both end up getting their "upgrades"

>Chief gets a new gun
>Samus now has the ability to jump though lava, run sonic speeds, and jump over buildings

How is she worse off?
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>>380845292
He could have packed a bag of ice
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>>380845260
>Itty bitty ayys rip apart the Power Suit
Only in gameplay, not in canon, put those goalposts back lad.
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>>380845380
Who ever said I put them against the Chozo, I said they would be as fine as a GF soldier in the Metroid universe, meaning they will get killed around the same time.
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>>380845383
Yeah. For 20 seconds. A nuclear explosion leaves the air around it super heated for a long time.
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>>380845415
Learn some basic reading comprehension.
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