Xenoblade Chronicles 2 thread

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Agreed, let's talk about Tora instead.

>>380806340
I believe there was a nopon with the same name in XCX

I want to tickle nia

>>380806340
Edible?

So when do guy think we'll get more information i was kinda disappointed they just showed XC2 just once.

>>380806067
>Xenoblade Chronicles 2fps
>Xenoblade Chronicles 2 steps long draw distance

>>380808107
Probably whatever the next gaming event in Japan is.

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>>380806340
What do you think, lads? Is his Blade a boy or a girl?

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>>380806067
Pyra you say?

>>380808479
girl

>>380808479
that looks like a boy to me

I really hope this game will do well. The fact that it isn't on Wii U and Nintendo actually seems to give it some proper marketing compared to the first XC makes me hopeful.

Who's gonna be the traitor of the game a.k.a the Lao/Dickson of X2?

>>380809118
Pyra.

>>380809304
This.

>in Greek mythology, Pyrrha was daughter of Epimetheus the titan and Pandora the first human
>was also a worshipper of Zeus
>Zeus got pissed off with humanity and wiped it out, then tasked Pyrrha and her husband, Deucalion, with restarting it
>Zeus had a weapon called the Aegis, which also seems to be the name of Pyra's sword

>>380808479
Can't the blades be changed? Or only Rex?

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>>380809304
Not Angela will replace her.

>>380810073
You can change the Blades for everyone.

What are you hopeful for that haven't been shown yet?

>>380810073
You probably can't change the story Blades, but each character does have two slots open for whatever other Blades you want.

>>380810465
How chain attacks work and if there'll be anything instead of A VISION
And most of all, something like Gambits for your partners because holy shit everyone is fucking retarded
Also all the customization options and affinity chart and if there'll be something like Colony 6 that sadly was missing from XCX

>>380810665
Since Blades also seem to act like equipment, I would expect you can change even the default story ones they come with, but they will show up for cut scenes or whatever.

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>>380810465
That this guy joins your party.

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You can't censor my love for Pyra.

>>380811102
We are already going to get the eye patch guy so Im doubtful they would go for two kinda similar archetypes. Unless we end up getting a ton of party members for this game.

>>380811208
"Hope you enjoy the game that was localized by the team that localized Fatal Frame 5!"

>>380808527
That recent interview from monolith pretty much says that Pyra looked like this edited image before they revealed anything for e3.

Now fucking america and other prude nations are convincing nintendo of japan to tone down things during development instead of during localization where we can see the differences.

Guess its up to indie games to keep things sexy.

>>380810465
Mechs. Don't even have to ride one myself.

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>>380811408
Yeah, you're probably right. That's disappointing, as I do like non-eyepatch's design better.

I hope we at least get train conductor lady.

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>>380811846
I'm still hopeful for ridable mechs since there is a whole "important" section of the menu labeled as ??? for the treehouse demo.

>>380811681
>That recent interview from monolith pretty much says that Pyra looked like this edited image before they revealed anything for e3.
No, that's your conjecture and persecution complex saying that.

>>380812113
I think it's more likely we'll get some airship than a proper mech

>>380811681
>>380811429
Guys i kind of miss it when it was just people arguing if XC or xcx is better.
>>380811942
Me to She look cute.

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>>380806608
Tora was probably the most important Nopon that wasn't Tatsu. You did several quests for him, and he even had voiced lines because he was part of Mia's affinity mission.

He was also a little shithead. Just like every other non-Riki Nopon in the series.

>>380812139
What the **** did he mean by this?

EDIT: That's weird, how did that happen? Oh, looks like I got an e-mail.

>>380812113
>>380812256
It's going to be a diving mechanic. Rex works as a diver, they talked about how the clouds around the titans have "tides," and they passed by a "salvage point" during the Treehouse stream.

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>>380812256
Maybe it's both and it'll also transform into a mech!
I'd actually be happy with just an Airship anyway if it ends up being anything like Skies of Arcadia.

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I'm really not a fan of how they changed the combat system. In Xenoblade Chronicles, you wanted to build up morale to make your 8 arts stronger. In Xenoblade Chronicles X, you wanted to build up tension to activate Overdrive to make your 8 arts stronger or use TP moves. In Xenoblade Chronicles 2, you build up to switch to another set of 4 arts.

I'm not impressed. I'm also not too keen on it being more plot focused and linear instead of open world and lore/world-building focused.

>>380811942
I'm pretty sure she's a bossfight. Because, and actual spoilers here in the trailer, they say that Rex and Pyra/Homura are on the run and are criminals, and you can fight and kill other humans/homs because they're looking to apprehend you and bring you to justice.

That leads me to believe that she'll be an enemy captain hunting you down for a portion, if not a major chunk, of the game.

>>380812442
That salvage point icon made me think of something more like "sky fishing" or such.

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>>380812442
This. You can see the motif in his design. He's got a wetsuit, a helmet, a harpoon, and it looks like part of his outfit is meant to close up and become airtight.

>>380812617
>I'm also not too keen on it being more plot focused and linear instead of open world and lore/world-building focused.
We haven't really seen anything of the world yet though. Who knows, it could still be a lot like X in that regard just with a greater focus on story.

>>380812617
The treehouse guy wasn't the greatest, but it seemed like there's a heavier focus on combos.

>>380813007
We do know that there are tons of titans that you go and visit, and each have their own self-contained biomes. I hope that there will be more openness, but I'm not expecting anything.

>>380813139
Heavier focus on party combos, maybe. I doubt there's heavier focus on combos than in Xenoblade Chronicles X, because that was the main focus of combat, and it's what made party members useless.

>>380813145
Those titans could be big as fuck though. X also had different zones after all.

>>380810465
Costumes.

>>380813282
What made party members useless is how they added more positioning abilities and the AI was too dumb to get in position.

>>380813417
I'm actually worried about that. They didn't show any new armor off which is one of the biggest factors with even 1.

>>380812854
In the gameplay demo one of the cities has a wanted poster with the faces of Rex and Nia. Not Homura because she did nothing wrong

>>380812854
I don't think the trailer said that, but the stream did. I was a little shocked at how they just murdered that guy in town. Sure as hell a far cry from Shulk not wanting to kill other Homs.

>>380812307
>He was also a little shithead. Just like every other non-Riki Nopon in the series.
Will this game's Toro be the one to live up to Riki?

>>380813324
Yeah, but we've seen roughly how big the first titan is, the giraffe. Even if they're somehow only a fraction of the way through, and I sincerely doubt that since they already have 2 party members and enemies are leveled around 10, it's about the size of a third of Primordia.

And the thing is, continents in Xenoblade Chronicles X had different biomes. Oblivia had deserts, beaches, badlands, prairies, mountains, islands, lakes, and islands in lakes. Noctilum, too, had plenty of mountains, jungles, huge roots, lakes, oceans, inlets, peninsulas, and plateaus.

>>380812139
NoA hates sexy moe girls with exposed skin > NoA doesn't want pervs bitching about fanservice again > convince NoJ that those moe girls need more clothes during creation > NoJ wants international money > *NoJ to money*: yes master!

I don't care what anyone says. Before this interview I already assumed nintendo would censor anime games differently with region free as a option now. Anything short of nintendo releasing a game with sexualized lolis will not change what I believe they're doing.

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>>380813494
Only some classes had positioning skills. Mostly just Full Metal Jaguar, which is what Elma's class was, which is why she got outperformed by a 13 year old girl. Knives, Beam Swords, Shields, and Longswords had fuck all for positioning based attacks.

>>380814284
As long as there is no shitty character making "jokes" about eating him constantly.
Not even Riki could live up to Riki if Lin was around, somehow the blame for all the shit jokes would go to him instead of her.

>>380813639
Oh yeah, it was Nia. Still, the point stands, they're criminals.

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>>380814586
Lin wasn't even that bad about it. She had some real good zingers with it. It's just that Tatsu's reactions were always the same.

>that time when you see Tatsu actually roasting in the pot, when Lin stopped messing around

>>380814382
>Even if they're somehow only a fraction of the way through, and I sincerely doubt that since they already have 2 party members and enemies are leveled around 10, it's about the size of a third of Primordia.
If anything, wouldn't them already having two party members and still being on the first titan suggest that it is fucking humongous? We have no idea how much more to it there is. They went from a dark forest to grasslands to an industrial area in that stream alone, and it looked like there was also mountainous areas.

>>380814879
No, not really, because the enemy levels are so incredibly low that they couldn't be very far into the game. Remember, there were enemies that level in Tephra Cave in the original.

Calling it, Yggrasil/Elysium/Whatever only looks like a tree from the distance. it's probably a mechanical construct and the Architect is a literal Architect.

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When will they show the fucking mechs?

I want to see the mechs.

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>>380815161
X had the best mechs ever.

>>380814791
They could. Have made tatsu better I like lin last affinity quest were tatsu was upset i think cause he actually thought lin wanted to eat him.

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>>380815161
Your forgetting the revealed one already?

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>>380815275
I disagree but I respect your opinion.

NoA are indeed not localizing Xenobae 2

http://www.gonintendo.com/stories/283093-xenoblade-chronicles-2-being-localized-by-nintendo-of-europe-dev

>>380815418
It's mostly those sexy transformation animations, not being ludicrously big while still being sizable mechs, and those beautiful designs on the medium and lightweight skells

>>380815421
No but the people that localized Fatal Frame V are.
Honestly X had a fine localization. The only thing that was dumb was the breast slider and the fundoshi. Which didn't spoil the game at all

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>>380815421
>Xenobae 2

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>>380815624
It's time.

>>380815621
>fatal frame v was localized by noe

Never mind that then.

>>380815349
They could have made Tatsu better. He was extremely humorous on his own. Whenever he wasn't around Lin, he was just full of zingers and one-liners to the point where he was actually an enjoyable character.

If they just made him a different cast member and had him separated from Lin, both would've been infinitely more enjoyable. Hell, they could've made Tatsu a "support character" like the Blades in 2. That way you could mix and match him with the other characters.

>>380811681

No, she didn't. And even if she did, who really gives a shit, she still has her tight pants with built in string, so obviously the "prudes" are not nearly as prudish as you think apparently. Also, in case you haven't noticed, video games are not personal works of individual creators, they are consumer products owned and mass distributed by large companies for the purpose of making money.

If private party A commissions private party B to create something according to X set of guidelines, and party B does something other than what they were employed to make under contract, if Party B complained " what, so what if it isn't what you asked for and if the target demographics you are aiming for may not buy it enough, stop trying to censor my artistic vision!" he would look like a huge fag.

This is coming from someone who boycotted Fire Emblem Fates because they removed the petty your waifu/husband mini game, /v/ has gotten to the point that it mistakes censorship for simply not pandering to their own personal value system. If the shoe were on the other foot, and a developer or character designer gave a female character a more simple, less exhibitionist outfit simply because they thought that looked better and the shekel eyed execs came in and said "No, more titties" and forced them to change it against their own will, you wouldn't hear one word out of /v/'s mouth about the unethical practice of censorship and would probably hear them making fun.of the developer or designer for getting upset that their vision has been altered by corporate management cause /v/ doesn't care about censorship

Sure, if they decide before release that they want Pyra's waistline to be just a bit higher to cover more of the string, I'll be upset at such an arbitrary vhange most people buying the game don't care about, but I can stomach that much better if I know all regions are getting the exact same product and I'm singled out cause of my region & stuck with a toned down version

>>380814945
In the areas that we saw, sure. We still don't know how much more to it there, as it sure didn't look like they were done with the titan after they beat the one miniboss.

>>380816114
I mean, sure, maybe if there was another side to the giraffe, but even then, the titans wouldn't be nearly as big as even the smallest Xenoblade Chronicles X continent.

Please let this thread last as long as the other ones.

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>Xfags will never EVER get their sequel

>>380815161
Never. This is Xenoblade 2, not Xenoblade X 2. The only mechs in the game will be enemies.

>>380816032
That's a lot of projection there. The reason /v/ is upset now is because character designs are being censored to cater to a crowd who doesn't care. It obviously makes people here mad, but there's absolutely 0 benefit to making a character less sexy. That will never make a game sell better, unless that game is exclusively pandering to Tumblrites and Neofags.

It's a seriously shitty practice that only costs them sales because of people hating it on principle. A bad PR move for sure.

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XB2 better have a sprint and a jump that's at least half as good and satisfying as XBXs.
It's one of those things that makes it hard going back to play through XB again.

>>380816656
Don't worry man it will last as long as the others just ending with censorship complaining instead to balance the other ongoing Xeno ass thread because we aren't allowed even one with discussion about the game.
>>380810513

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>>380816702
After the backlash this game gets for not being as open as X and not being as philosophical in exchange for having a stronger plot, I'm sure Takahashi will go back to Xenoblade Chronicles X. Just as he decided to go with a more plot-based and linear approach after some faggots couldn't handle X.

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>>380811681
No, they fucking didn't. Pyra/Homura's name didn't come up so much as once during the entire article. It was painting in broad strokes how they approach localizing and how they involve the original devs in the process. I hate most of the retarded changes they've made to past games, and I've avoided buying some games because of them, but christ, we have seen ZERO VISUAL EVIDENCE that Pyra has been changed whatsoever since the first trailer at the Switch reveal in January. When there is visible, tangible proof of changes, I'll be joining you banging on Nintendo's door, enough of your fucking preemptive witch hunts.

>>380816957
Maybe the developers shouldn't capitulate to the prudes if they wanted good publicity and discussion around their game.

>>380816984
>Just as he decided to go with a more plot-based and linear approach after some faggots couldn't handle X.
He already said he wanted to go back to that for his next game before X was even out.

>Can't collect collectables by just running over them anymore
How the fuck did that mess that up?

>>380815762
Probably were gonna do something like i alway it kinda how he was in a traveling companion slot.

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>>380816872
I loved jumping with the Mechs and then you unlock flight and the game is like "nah bro you don't need jumping anymore also enjoy the music."

>>380817139
>i-it's the developers' f-fault I'm a literal blight upon these threads, not m-mine!

>>380817450
Pretty certain the trade-off is that they're no longer randomized.

>>380817513
Flying was great. It's what elevated X from amazing to GOAT material.

Really the only problem was the music. There should've been individual flying themes for every continent. There are tons of themes that are barely used at all that would've been better used as flying themes for other continents, like Melancholia.

Or, and just hear me out here, they could've given the skells a jukebox feature where you can change the song you're listening to while inside/near it.

>>380817515
No, it's you censorship-defenders that are a blight on the threads.

Not saying they've done anything wrong yet, but letting NoA and NoE have input on the original games mean that if censorship does happen, which is likely considering NoA's recent history, the region-free nature of the Switch would be pointless. If NoA and NoE hadn't blundered with XBCX, #FE, FE Fates, and FFV, people would be more amicable to them. It's hard to believe that the NoA fucks are the same ones who made KI:U's amazing localization.

>>380817513
Mech jumping was fun as fuck. Using to get Mechanical Lv5 and reach the Divine Roost without the flight pack was a fun time. The flight should've been toggled by some other means and not fade the music in and out all the time.

>>380818149
They could've made it so that double jumping activated flight.

I kinda want an updated version of XBCX with all of these QoL changes instead of XBC2.

>>380818067
>No, it's you censorship-defenders that are a blight on the threads.
>trying to actually talk about the game
>a blight
lmao

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>>380817831
I just found it absolutely retarded how they assumed since you can fly now we'll just replace jumping with it, instead of doing something like making you fly only if you hold the jump button till the apex or putting it on another button.

>>380817513
you can sort of jump by pressing zr and zl at the same time but the music still starts so...yeah

>>380818398
Yeah, I have no idea how that made it past development. Then again, perhaps no one played long enough for Don't Worry to get grating.

There are so many solutions to the problem, it's astonishing nothing was done about it. Then again, the devs spent a long ass time just trying to get skells working in NLA without killing the framerate, and to get NLA to seemlessly transition to Primordia. Maybe they just ran out of time to finish the polish.

>>380818067
Why are talking about Nintendo of America for ffv and kI:U

>>380818664
NoA and 8-4 are behind the KI:U translation, and NoE is behind FFV

Notice how I always said
>NoA and NoE

>>380816823
You're giving posters on /v/ way too much credit. Yeah, censorship like that in the case of #FE was a bad PR move because it was by attempting to make the game better cater to either a family friendly audience or some uptight feminist type, whatever the reason was cause in all honesty nobody really knows what the cause of that was and any explanation at this point is conjecture, they in the end alienated many if the weeb who wanted the same playful idoru game Japan got. There's a real criticism to be made there even if one actually preferred the product NOA delivered.

But that's not really what /v/ complains about in these situations. It may service their argument, but it's not why they're mad. Nobody is ever complaining that censorship is bad on principle, even self-censorship by publishers that owns the product. What rustles /v/'s jimmies more is who they believe is forcing these changes and why, not so much the changes themselves or the act of changes. Games are adjusted mid-development all the time to make sure they meet quality standards and to make sure they are within the right limits of each regions respective ratings board for the ratings they're shooting for and to make sure they'll have plenty of mass market appeal. There are probably dozens upon dozens of changes in a game's development cycle that anons would disagree but are wholly unaware of.

Again, if the situation was reversed, and a game originally had the female characters in plain clothes and the management forced them to change their outfits to G-strings and pasties to pander to a niche ecchi consumer demographic against the developers wishes who wanted something to appeal to more average consumers, I really don't think /v/ would care, because they would be assured that the esjaydubbyas weren't responsible and because they are often art of that demographic and they would say the developers who complain need to go back to tumblr and calling the execs who forced the changes based

>>380818309
Yes, you are. If it weren't for people defending censorship, it wouldn't be such a hot-button issue. People would just get angry and move on, like when games have bad camera controls. People get angry at the awful camera controls, shit on it, and move on. You don't see entire threads dedicated to bad camera controls because no one defends them. Censorship is equally bad, but there are people defending it, thus threads get ruined by talks of censorship. Ditto framerate, resolution, blackifying existing franchises, overly long animations, QTE's, glitches, "cinematic experiences", and etc.

>>380818918
Because everyone hates prudes on principle, except for other prudes. Ever since 2005, /v/ has been complaining about prudes, no matter what political leaning the prudishness comes from. Making a character more immodest to make them look more attractive is fine. Characters should be as attractive as possible, if not in looks, then in theme.

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>pirate dude Blade has xboxhueg glasses covering her cute face

Hopefully they can be removed, Blade appearance cutomization needs to be a thing at least for the ones tied to the main members.

We do not know yet if the game will come with more text languages included, do we?
E3 showed pretty clearly that the western release will be dub only, but if the Japanese version comes with English text I can get my proper voice acting fix.

>>380818747
I see now i thought you were different game that being said either fuck off said or talk about game you keep ruining this thread by talking censorship.

>>380819191
So, I'm right that it has nothing to do with any condemnation of censorship, only censorship that isn't in service your own set of values, and that you only use the argument of censorship being bad as a kind of virtue signaling

>>380819667
Would you say forcing a company to bugfix their shit is censorship? Because in that case, I'm all for censoring Bethesda. Making characters hotter is not censorship.

But yes, if some SJW dev or Christian dev or Muslim dev or whatever wanted to make a game about modest girls, and their publisher forced them to make it immodest, I'd also be upset. But that'll never happen because it's usually the publishers changing shit to be more prudish.

Not that it matter anyways. You can't "censor" something by making it more immodest. That's the opposite of censorship.

>>380819496
I really can't see Blade appearance customization being a thing. Sorry, senpai. She probably wears them so he looks cooler by comparison.

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>>380819873
>But yes, if some SJW dev or Christian dev or Muslim dev or whatever wanted to make a game about modest girls, and their publisher forced them to make it immodest, I'd also be upset.

>>380819519
>Wanting to listen to whiny little kid Rex
Pleb

I just wish we could pick and choose which character is voice acted by which voice actor. In this day and age of globalism, I don't see why that should be a problem.

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Xenoblade Chronicles X > Xenoblade Chronicles

>>380819895
I can't even see character armor customization, from what we've seen in the menus and in the treehouse gameplays of X they showed off that you can change your weapons and armor and how they visibly affect your character but that didn't happen here and there's one option in 2 that looks like a ring and people are theorizing that that's the armor customization but i see it more possible for it to be the gems menu

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Why do Xenoblade games have so little porn? With all the hot girls, all of the enemies, settings, and characters needed for every form of fetishism imaginable, and already revealing outfits, you'd think the Japs would go right for that shit.

But no, they're busy making porn of the Xeno game with only 2 hot girls, who make up over 80% of the porn for that game, and 95% of the straight porn. Telos and Kosmos aren't even that hot

>>380819969
It cost money and the reason l only reason X let you chose cause you didn't talk at all except for in battle.

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>>380820131
I don't think they would of given blades defensive stats either if armor was still in.
In fact blades seem like your weapon and armor "equipment" in one in this game.
That one dude they murdered at the village in the gameplay demo prety much had one of Rex's generic Blades, they prob designed a bunch of those instead of armors/weapons.

>>380820426
Cause they're niche series that probably don't even reach 1 million in sales.
Lets hope this title will change that.

>>380820458
If that's the case, I might just skip Xenoblade Chronicles 2.

Maybe then people will realize the superiority of Xenoblade Chronicles X and we can get X2

>>380819895
The other two Xeno games have appearance customization, unlike mechas that is actually a staple element of the series that should return. I bet Nia looks great without the bodysuit.

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>>380820426
If I was an artist, I'd be showering the internet with Xeno smut. I've just got to settle for writing smut instead

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>>380820687
It's such a shame that the only porn of the ayy lmaos that exists is either
a) gay
b) written smut
c) not that hot

>tfw the only porn of Ryyz is a fucking 3-part story about coercing sexual favors out of her
My dick weeps, but it doesn't weep the fluid I want it to.

>>380813007
Xenoblade 1 was extremely worldbuilding focused. Fuck off.

>>380820581
Mechas have been a staple element of the Xeno series since the first game, you pleb. They also made Xenoblade Chronicles X great.

>>380821058
What are you talking about

>>380821058
Meant to reply to >>380812617

>>380808479
Is his Blade a robot?

>>380821058
Not as focused as XBCX. X actually had interesting philosophical and theoretical implications. Part of the world building was to set up a bunch of ethical dilemmas. It's also very anti-nihilistic in its theme and message, and anti-nihilism is one of the better modern "philosophies".

Xenoblade Chronicles only has a strong plot. There is no real ethical dilemma. You never question who the bad guys are. The biggest moral dilemma is around killed Egil. Chronicles also doesn't build side characters up as much as X. X took the affinity chart aspects and ran away with them, whereas 2 is looking to be in the opposite direction.

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The story trailer was terrible, it was confusing and just random lines with no meaning. The gameplay that they showed looked like it might be too slow/simple. Having to stand still for auto attacks for example could be a very bad thing.

>>380821105
Xenoblade is literally not related to Gear and Saga. Like at all.

>>380821625
Same creator, same Zohars, same themes. Xenoblade Chronicles and XBC2 are the odd ones out, not the norm.

>>380821619
This. It looks like they wanted to go the exact opposite direction of Xenoblade Chronicles X with this game.
>4 arts per weapon
>You have to wait to switch weapons (takes about 15 - 20 seconds)
>You can't attack while moving to better position yourself
>No on the fly weapon switching between melee and ranged
>No skells for extra arts
The problem with X was how poorly explained the combat was, not the complexity. It alienated casuals, yes, but it rewarded the dedicated with one of the best RPG battle systems ever made. This feels like a cheap way to make a game more casual while still trying to give it "depth"

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>>380821625
>Xenoblade is literally not related to Gear and Saga. Like at all.
Not that anon, but that have plenty of similarities which is why they decided to go with the Xeno- name rather than Monado: The Beginning of the World, which was the original title.

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>>380821883
>High Intellectual discourse

>>380806340
ratasotk

>>380821883
>High intellectual discourse
Let's be real here, they aren't that intellectual. Even Xenoblade Chronicles X is more high-minded. It actually tries to discuss something important. Gnosticism isn't even that cool, it's just loved by Japs, like the Romance of the Three Kingdoms. A game taking themes from The Prince, a la XBCX, instead of just Gnosticism in general is much more entertaining and intellectual, not to mention it's a lot more fresh.

>>380822073
>>380822265
You're saying this like it's my opinion.

>>380819873
When a country like the Republic of Iran or North Korea or the Russian Federation blocks views from being expressed that don't endorse the regime or its ideology, we still call that censorship not because something immodest is being made modest in the sense of boobs being covered, but because people are having their ability to express or celebrate their own beliefs, opinions or values forcefully repressed. So making something modest immodest can qualify as censorship if an individual feels that is related to the expression of their own creative values is being wrongfully suppressed.

However, in this case, which involves private parties coming to mutual agreement on changing something in a finished product they are not forced by law or an angry mob with pitchforks to change, but are changing only in hopes of shifting the appeal of their product to try to make more money, whether something being made modest or immodest, this not really censorship of creative idea as much as compromise of them by all the parties voluntarily involved. Same thing goes if the publishers are forcing devs to.make changes they don't like. That's not censorship if the devs are working under voluntary contracts and have agreed to make the product however the publisher or those who commissioned the product want it, even if it means compromising some of their own creative inputs as individuals. Be the changes good or bad for the game or the consumers, that's not censorship proper cause if you don't like what your publisher makes you do, you can always work somewhere else or start your own firm that publishes what you want.

All I'm saying is that I think discussion could be more on how consumers can better communicate to publishers what they want in their games with respect to content so they don't stupid decisions that alienate their main consumer demographics for X game rather than just "Those mean ol' SJW's are taking away muh anime tiddies

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>>380820458
I just noticed in the gameplay vid Rex uses his arm crossbow thing to actually attack.
>Anchor Shot
And has an animation to go with it.

>>380821058
Wut, xc1 has the least worldbuilding of any xeno game thus far

>>380821883
Similarities yes, but no relation character and story-wise. Each game features its own universe/lore. In Xenoblade the fist game and proper sequel dont feature mechs piloted by the cast so X is the odd one (also odd one for having a shit plot).

>>380822521
False

>>380822594
Even having a shit plot, it still has a far better story. Plot is second to worldbuilding, lore, and theme.

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>>380822471
Rewatching this shit now Im noticing a lot of stuff I didnt on the get go, like for example healing items fall out of enemies as you attack them now.

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>>380822762
No he's right. Xenosaga has by far the most but getting three games will do that, followed by Xenogears, X has a ton of world building around Mira and NLA, and the various alien races, Blade conversely has very little, you have to two giants, a few races, the gods but very little world building beside that. We don't know anything about Klaus, how Alviss really works or the machinations that control the world creation system.

>>380821883
No, they decided to change the name to honor Takashi.

https://www.wired.com/2010/01/the-last-story-wii/

> “We decided to call it Xenoblade to honor Mr. Tetsuya Takahashi who poured his soul into making this and who has been working on the Xeno series,” said Iwata.

>>380823106
t. didn't pay attention to Xenoblade entirely

Also, """philosophy""" doesn't make a worldbuild deep.

>>380822936
The combat is weird in that there's healing but one of the healing spell just throws healing items around where you have to run over them to heal yourself.

>>380822594
>but no relation character and story-wise
Not really unless you meant to say direct continuity. There are plenty of export characters, repeated archetypes, reused plotlines and vague connections to earlier titles. Xenoblade X for instance according to the game is set after Xenoblade, it's some exceedingly large scale of time after shulk created his new world that Xenoblade has almost nothing to do with X directly but it's there nonetheless.

>>380823470
Isn't that just rex move i thought nia was a healer.

>>380823470
Which is weird, considering that there are characters based entirely on healing. What's the point if you can't clutch heal someone?

>>380823625
That's what I was talking about. I just found it really odd.

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>>380822936
>Using a crystal has a notice that it will save the game if you do it.
>Randomly drops from enemies (treehouse dude got it on an early battle)
Fully expect RNG Gacha nonsense on getting blades. Just like you would for actual equipment

>>380823278
>No, they decided to change the name to honor Takashi.

Why, is he dead?

>>380823106
>Alviss really works or the machinations that control the world creation system
It's literally the fucking Zohar

>>380823709
Just the fact that crystals were called "Unsigned Crystal Cores" probably imply there must be some way to sign it and force a specific Blade.

>>380823709
Jesus, that's disappointing if its the case. That would be horrible. Especially if crystal cores can be rare drops from enemies.

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>>380823851
Sounds just like the fluff description for the crappiest crystal tier you would find so you don't luck yourself some endgame blade.

And yes Deja Vu

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>>380823465
I think what you misunderstanding here is you appreciate the world design not really the world building. Xenoblade doesn't really concern itself with questions of who founded colony 9 and why do we never see colonies 1-5, 7-8 ect. Where on Bionis were they if they ever existed? Who founded them and when? Mostly because Xenoblade wasn't really focused on deep world building.

>>380823760
Well I mean we assume that because we've played Gears and Saga but the game never actually says anything on the subject and it's not mentioned in the supplementary material either.

>>380823716
Perhaps reading the quote would help.

>>380823278
Anon go read http://betweenlifeandgames.com/analyses/history-xenogears-xenosaga-part-4-monolith-soft-nintendo/

If you want to actually know what went on with production

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>>380824230
"I am the administrative computer of a PHASE TRANSITION EXPERIMENT facility."

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>>380824182
There is at least 6 different kind of crystals min.

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>>380824775
Right and we assume it functions the same way because we've played Gears/Saga but go find that explanation in Xenoblade or the Xenoblade Secret File.

While U-Do is obviously just The Wave Existence again with a name change because they legally had to they actually function differently.

What's this about Rex and the Gang killing a guy in town? Sounds hilarious

>>380815762
I can't believe people liked Tatsu. If anything, Lin would have been better on her own.

>>380825491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfGk6VMcJsw

Starts at 25:10.

guys i fucking get it, saitom was hired for xenoblade 2 because he did the art for expelled from paradise and xenoblade 2 is about returning to paradise

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>>380825896
I think they hired him because he draws extremely sexy future girls

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>>380825880
Notice how the guy they kill pretty much has Rex's Kirim/Fudor blade, but it's a spear instead of a gun/axe? I mean they looked like Generic designs already but jeez.

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So judging by the size of this screen and if we assume it doesn't scroll, we'll get two more party members. We already know one other from the cover, so who do you guys think the 4th will be?

>>380826180
An adult woman. Maybe this one turns face >>380811942

>>380806067
!FLUFFY!

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>>380826180

>>380815275
That one had such a good paint pattern in the cheaper variant.

Dunno why the fuck they ruined it for the more expensive one.

>>380826176
Yeah, we had this discussion a few days ago. Fudor and Kirim's body type seems to be the basic, generic one.

I do wonder what would happen if Nia used a crystal, though. Would every Blade she summons be a mount type?

>>380816984
>After the backlash this game gets for not being as [...] philosophical

Yeah, because everyone wants another hamfisted, poorly explained trip into animu philosophy. MAYBE MIRA IS ALIVE!? And? So? Who cares?

>>380826502
I felt the same way about the bunny ear one.

>>380826502
>Box Art Formula can only be recreated with the Lv 30 Skell
What did they mean by this?

Will there be a Skyward Sword tweest?

>>380811681
>that recent interview
Care to share a link? Been in most of the threads but haven't seen any mention of interview.

>>380826180
The entire cast will be girls with a dramatic reveal that Rex is a girl who pretends to be a boy to survive in the harsh Maleocracy.

>>380826627
That would be nice but I am not hopefull at this point that it isn't just going to pull out from the same pool for everyone now. If the Enemy NPCs are also using the "generics" I don't see why other party members won't also share stuff.

In the Blade menu thing you can see it shows what weapon "type" something is, wouldn't be surprised if they made animations for every weapon type that exists for all characters and just let everyone have everything that isn't story unique.

>>380826141
Too bad her lookalike is going to die in game and not be a party member

I remember X being absolutely no collision detection on enemies, but did 1 have it? The demo shows that 2 does have it, so it won't be as simple as just running through an enemy to get easy positioning for a back attack or side attack anymore.

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>>380827131
I have hope. She looks too important for both of those things to happen.

>>380816702
It'll come out in 2019/2020.

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>ps4 gets no jrpgs
it's not fair

>>380827393
I can tell you one thing, I can't see Rex wielding a blade like that with the same animation's as Pyra's, he would be slicing himself.

>>380806067
Reminder Pyra looks better with less boobs and more ass

I hope Nomura's character is a party member.

even though he's pretty much just a combination of Riku/Xemnas design-wise

>>380827656
Maybe masked edge man is the wilder of her (we haven't seen his blade have we?)

>>380827763
Boobs >>> ass. Saitom agrees, dont bother him about it.

>>380827763
fuck off niggers

>>380827763
Heres your fucking thread m8 >>380820056

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Five different customization options. The Enhance Arts artwork appears twice, so I'm assuming there's still some refining to do. Can't really say for sure what the rest of the options are, but I am inclined to believe that the ring option is either an accessory or cosmetic.

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>>380828336
Mainly because of the shopkeeps that exist. There's meat/fish/veggies, a chip or cpu, a ring, parchment, and a person?

I'm guessing this implies a lot. Cooking, Blade or mecha upgrades, accessories, bulletin board quests, and maybe random bystander quests.

>>380812917
I guess he has the compression pants for diving work? It looks silly but it might actually have some practical value.

>>380812917
>>380828854
I hope we see him dive soon then because it might make that dumb suit look actually alright if it compresses.

Its not being censored, its being developed from the ground up with input from all the places that will release the game. So theres no "censorship" to speak of only development.

The game is looking hreat desu. Your party members seem to be more useful and your auto-attacks play a more important role now which is cool since in XCX they were useless once you got tp increase arts.

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>>380829028
There were a lot of points that he just ran past in the demo. It was a shame.

>>380828806
>ring icon represents something you can buy
That makes me feel slightly better about the chances of it being equipment/accessories.

>>380828336
Lack of "equipment" worries me. Since I feel the game is only build around Blades. And so because of that armor doesn't exist.

>>380829165
I'm curious to see if that'll just be Rex jumping down there and then coming back up with items, or if there'll be actual gameplay of you having to navigate him through these clouds like it's the ocean depths, scavenging shit up and avoiding whatever monsters are flying around down there.

This is all the Blade combos I was able to get from the stream

Fire = Flame
Ice = Chill
Wind = Gust
Earth = Shard
Water = Toxin
Water --> Water = Poison
Water --> Earth = Virus
Water --> Earth --> Wind = Plague (Inflicts "Seal Blowdown")
Water --> Water --> Water = ??? (Inflicts "Seal Stench)
Water --> Water --> ??? (Purple type) = ??? (Inflicts "Seal Reinforcements")

Fire --> Water = Steam
Fire --> Fire = Blaze
Fire --> Fire --> Fire = ??? (Inflicts "Seal Self-Destruct")
Fire --> Fire --> ??? (Yellow/golden type) = ??? (Inflicts "Seal Affinity Down")
Fire --> Water --> Fire = ??? (Inflicts "Seal Self-Destruct)
Fire --> Water --> Ice = ??? (Self Healing)

Ice> Water = Hail
Ice --> Ice = Frost
Ice --> Water --> Wind = ??? (Inflicts "Seal Blowdown")
Ice --> Ice --> Earth = ??? (Inflicts "Seal Knockback")
Ice --> Ice --> ??? (Purple type) = ??? (Inflicts "Seal Reinforcements")
Earth --> Earth = Chasm
Earth --> Earth --> Electric = ??? (Inflicts "Seal Back Attack")
Earth --> Fire --> Wind = ??? (Inflicts "Seal Blowdown")
Earth --> Fire --> Earth = ??? (Inflicts "Seal Knockback")

There is tons of debuffs you can apply to an enemy

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>>380829284
Drivers do have a lot of stats that are independent of the Blade that is equipped. I think it's fairly likely to assume equipment exists to influence these stats.

Though I can't really say whether that would actually be cosmetic armor or not.

>>380829876
My guess it would be gems or something to slightly enhance stats. If so that really sucks because changing gear was always something I loved in Xenoblade.

>>380828806
I was wonder what we gonna spend gold too this is interesting stuff anon can't wait till get some more information.

>>380829876
So I'm guessing everyone gets one canonical Blade and the rest is filler equipment? I'd rather not there be 150 characters, that's XCX's party member problems times a million.

>>380830032
They're pretty much more equipment or even something like Pokemon than they are actual party members.

>>380806608
Tatsu was the name of an NPC in the first game but got their name changed in the localization as well.

>>380829876
>Rex has no base defense
>Equipped Blade reduces a fixed percentage of every physical attack

Interesting. When enemies start one-shotting you its overhaul Blade time.

>>380830032
XCX party member issue was having to run back to town to change them around.
That and only having 2 alien party members when the story is all about starting UN for aliens.

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>>380829876
They better make it so that Pyra is useful for the whole game. No reason why they wouldn't.

>>380830267
I can't say I'm really fond of Phys Def being % based. There wouldn't really feel like a lot of progression when low level Attack Blades have the exact same % defense as high level Attack Blades.

>>380830486
I can't imagine her and the other story Blades becoming irrelevant to gameplay, so I imagine there has to be some way of upgrading Blades.

>>380830554
Did they any other of the blade stats?

>>380815275
>Mastema goes from two horns to single oni horn
A shame.

I hope X2 reworks skells/mechs to be more interesting
>each type of skell specializes in certain equipment, which in turn means certain kinds of arts
>each skell has it's own different mechanic, like a kind of talent art
>better skell/off-foot interactions to encourage fighting alongside skells while on foot, exiting and reentering skells etc
>a super weapon that's just the dumb people gun from Xenogears that you can use to enter combat at high speed

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>>380830486
>>380830582
I do believe there should be a way to keep Blades relevant. In addition to EXP, every battle also awards some "sword" and "star" points. I can't really say what these would be used for, but most likely they tie into one of the character customization options from >>380828336, allowing you to either enhance an art or probably enhance a Blade.

So far we have
> 12 arts for party member
>can switch party members on the fly
>there are now gathering spots to collect items
>different cloud tides unlock new areas to explore
>enemies no longer have the threat icon so now you have to be more careful around them

Anything else?

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>>380806340
>you will never lock your fingers with a nopon's big soft fluffly hands

>>380816984
Basically confirmed.
https://mynintendonews.com/2017/06/14/monolith-soft-talk-xenoblade-chronicles-2-for-nintendo-switch/
>“It’s a completely different world, with completely new characters. It’s a different game. The way I see it, I feel as though Xenoblade 1 and 2 are connected and linked in the sense that they’re linear and story-driven games, whereas Xenoblade Chronicles X was more focused on open world and exploration, and maybe an online aspect. I feel like I’d like to continue to create games separating those two aspects out.”

>>380830486
Remember all Shulk had was the Monado.
That said fully expecting her to probably some sort of jack of all trades or "easy to use friendly" and other endgame blades probably outclassing her. (Or some broken combo comes along)

>>380826176
I hope they vary the 'generic' designs somehow. Like each titan has different aesthetics for the blades you find on their core crystals.

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>>380830669
Unfortunately no. What's more, all of Rex's Blades from the demo were Attacker roles. While I think everything from Auto-Attack to Ether Defense will be on every Blade, Strength and the empty space below it will probably be a bonus to one of the character specific stats.

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>>380827080
Looking at this screen, I think I can see a mount type on the very right, behind the three at the front. Regardless, it looks like there's a bunch more body types behind those ones, so that's good.

>>380830554
I wonder if they i defense stat somewhere i was thinking maybe blade are like armor for Xcx damage they take a percentage off a certain damage type.

>>380831123
Was there any part of the video that really indicates what Nia and Tora's Blades do for them?

I'm just shocked they didn't show them jumping around. Kind of wondering if they took that out.

>>380831313
I have no idea what part, but I'm pretty sure Rex does jump at some point in the stream.

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>>380831253
Nothing for Tora aside from them mentioning he is a Tank, with an Earth elemental Blade.

Nia's Blade is Dromarch, a Water elemental cat that is probably a Healer role. Break, full heal, and HP potion generation.

>>380829760
>Fire --> Water --> Fire = ??? (Inflicts "Seal Self-Destruct)
I see gimmick unique enemies ahead

>>380831526
I'm so glad the menu isn't a clusterfuck like xcx.

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>>380831313
>>380831381
There was a moment where Rex fell off a rock, so he does have an airborne animation. The fact that Pyra does jump around while following you makes me think jumping is probably still in, he just never jumped for whatever reason.

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So why can't Tora apparently summon Blades? Story reasons? They didn't add it to the demo for some reason? He's just offscreen here?

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>>380827510

>>380831859
I doubt we'll get mountaingoating again for XC2 but oh well

>>380831975
Stop, you're gonna summon the forbidden one

>>380832049
he killed himself when P5 dropped, it's only been imposers since

what changes to the gameplay did NoA make to XBCX to get people so upset?

>>380832112
>implying anyone can ever reach his levels of autism and mental gymnastics
He's the real deal and sadly he hasn't offed himself yet
Maybe because The Best Game of All Times Ever™ is still getting DLC

>>380831168
>That crystal icon
Pulling more girl-type Blades from the gacha may actually be a thing

>>380831778
I loved xcx combat but your it was and they didn't explain all of stuff to you.

>>380831526
Tora's Blade casts something called "Ether Anchor" on him at one point. No idea what that does.

>>380829760
So basically there's a bunch of specialized debuffs that are associated with elemental combinations. Seems alright.

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>>380821228
Sure looks that way.

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I'm actually starting to believe Tora might be a temporary party member.

>Doesn't appear in menu to unlock new Blades >>380831890
>Doesn't appear in cover art >>380826325
>Doesn't appear as a wanted fugitive alongside Rex and Nia

>>380832265
>FF15 VR fishing
Beautiful

What kind of accent does the guy who said the following have?

>What's the matter!? ARE YOU THE AEGIS? OR AREN"T YOU!?

Brit accents made X1 charming but that guy almost sounds as inaudible as Liam Gallagher

>>380832374
Yes. The guy playing the treehouse demo sucked a lot so he pretty much missed the important aspect of these combos. And he rarely used any artes which apparently is really bad since they get stronger and charge faster the more you use the. Auto attacks snowball the same way

>>380831859
It'll probably be like the first Xenoblade where jumping is completely useless because you don't jump high enough to clear anything.

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>>380808479
>>380832689
THIS BETTER FUCKING BE A ROBO LOLI AND NOT A ROBO SHOTA I SWEAR TO GOD SHOTAFAGS ALREADY GOT THE MAIN FUCKING CHARACTER

>>380832758
>Doesn't appear in cover art
To be fair, someone else doesn't as well. The party screen has room for at least one more aside from eyepatch dude (two more if Tora really is temporary)

I'm wondering if this might be all because you don't have Tora at this point in the actual game, and they just inserted him into the demo to show a full three-man team and so it'd have the three basic roles (attacker, tank, healer).

>>380832994
But we so rarely get shota fun service. Loli are fucking everywhere in JRPG/

>>380832259
I thought good agree X has better combat but anyway there some problems.certain art and weapons build make easy to break the game some people don't like overdive and there a skill that make ether damage pretty strong.

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>>380833071

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Does anyone remember if 1 had collision detection, or were you able to just clip through every enemy like in X?

Either way, can't do that anymore. Pretty much for all enemies, you'll have to actually run around to get the positioning for side and back attacks.

>>380833684
ya they did, recall immovable Rodriguez

>>380833816
I thought it was Fixed Fernandez

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Last observation from me for tonight, but I love how Rex actually uses his wrist-mounted harpoon/grappling hook for his Anchor Shot. I was worried that it was only for aesthetic to round out his diver motif.

>>380834053
How could you confuse the name of Stable Sanchez?

>>380834207
I don't. Between it and the helmet it seems less likely we're getting armor or fashion options.

I think there's a lot of stuff they intentionally took out or modified for the Treehouse demonstration. As anon said above, Tatsu is probably not part of the early game. So it would follow that the miniboss towards the end is meant to be fought by just Rex and Nia at that point in the game. And that boss had either its HP buffed or damage reduced. I dunno, I just felt the balance was off.

Also, enemies dropping no items at all except gold? That's really weird, why even fight enemies at all then?

>>380834245
It's Locked Lorenzo, you dumbass

>>380833391
were those changes to the original Japanese release that NoA made?

>>380832902
I'm no Bong be he sounds like a Scot to me. There's a Scottish sounding female voice just before him, so that might be the regional accent on one of the Titans.

>>380834693
>There's a Scottish sounding female voice just before him
Something interesting to note: that voice is male in the JP trailer.

No idea what's going on there.

Did they say anything about the release date?

>>380835071
Holiday 2017.

>>380834418
Original they changed the combat around a little.

>>380811102
Guy looks like he's going to the primary antagonist until the "Architect" shows up to be the resident-god-that-needs-slaying

What are we expecting for resolution?

>>380824230
>Xenoblade doesn't really concern itself with questions of who founded colony 9 and why do we never see colonies 1-5, 7-8 ect. Where on Bionis were they if they ever existed? Who founded them and when?

The weirdest thing about the mystery of the other colonies is that we know that at least one of them was destroyed fairly recently as Mumkhar wasn't native to Colony 9. We can assume there'd have been one on the Bionis Shoulder, except that'd also be weird since it's stated that it's an odd occurence to see homs anywhere above Makna Woods.

>>380836285
What I got of the Architect from his description makes me think he's going to be the Wave Existence/U-DO/Alvis of the game, i.e. the real god who can't directly interfere.

>>380837318
Since monolith worked on Zelda, probably 900p

>>380827806
Pretty sure Nomura's character is Tora, the Nopon.

>>380837318
Docked: Dynamic resolution going between sub 720p to a max of 900p

Handheld: Dynamic resolution going between sub 720p to a max of 720p

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Endgame right here, bros.

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>>380830747
The HUD is way too big

>>380839073
You need an ass to have an end game

>>380840887
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/380319187/#380323058
Is this your new angle now? Just bring up Pyra's ass at every opportunity to try and derail the thread?

>>380841091
Nice boogeyman post.

>>380841170
Thanks for confirming for me

>>380841369
anything to make you feel better about pyra being an asslet

>>380837318
>MS worked on Zelda, with heavy physics based manipulation, with a WiiU centric engine, and managed to get pretty stable 900p in a seamless open world

I think that given there will be less, if any, physics in this game, and it's already confirmed the Titans, ie, continents are to be separated by hidden loading screens while you travel to them, we could see 1080p here docked. With resolution scaling, of course.

>>380816032

oh fuck off with your inane wall of text, everyone that buys a fucking jrpg is expecting anime tiddies, EVERYONE including soccer moms and kids, that's 90% of the reason games like senran kagura sell and those games aren't afraid of their sexuality

sexuality should be celebrated, girls with big boobs should be endorsed, not shamed, fuck your shit and go die you fucking fuck fuck you

>>380813963
>walk into city
>dude with level showing up watching poster
>if he sees you he is hostile
>k let's backslash his ass right away and murder him in broad daylight
>Nobody fucking cares in town

this game is brutal man

>>380829165

I don't understand how at points this game looks as bad as xenoblade 1 and at others it's a bit better than X, but it's so inconsistent, the draw distance was laughable, you could see grass literally grow in front of you, I'm starting to think the switch is worse than Wii U in terms of handling, it may be stronger in raw power but Wii U was more solid in its architecture with a strong GPU that pushed the CPU a fair bit.

>>380816872

I really want them to release xeno x on switch, never fell for the wii u meem

>>380839270
Hopefully you can edit it like in XCX. I will turn the minimap off. I hate minimaps.

>>380826289

that's a blade that the nopon gets

>>380834325

go play world of cuckcraft if you want a dress up simulator you fuck

>>380844834
There still polishing it so who know how grass will look a least enemies and people load fast.