How long until we get a Persona protagonist that's an actual

fem mc when?

>>380769693
Never
Play something else

>>380769828
Never ever.

Just pick the first option at every choice, then. Problem solved.

>>380769693
play persona 2 you fucking retard

>>380769693
>when will this game franchise stop being this game franchise
I don't know, why don't you play Horizon?

>>380769828
persona 3

>>380770079
still treated like a perfect Gary Stu who everyone loves for no reason

>self-insert
anon we know you couldn't even pretend to be any of these guys

>>380769693
I can tell this is your first SMT game newfag. SMT protags are almost always self inserts

>>380770175
>why don't you play Horizon

go away shill

so just got up to the third dungeon and I have to admit, I'm kind of not really digging it so far. something about the story and the characters seem pretty unappealing. soundtrack is still fun and I like the visual but does it get better story/character wise or should I just throw in the towel?

>>380770373
>SMT protags are almost always self inserts
I know, buy why?

>>380770587

you've got another 4 palaces and probably another 40 hours to go at a minimum, if its not appealing to you by now, it might be too late.

>>380770587
man, if you don't like it that far in, the game probably just isnt for you

>>380769693
I thought the P5 protag actually had a lot more personality and wasn't completely self-insert material compared to the previous 4 protags
Especially with him how he ended up in his situation in the first place

>>380769828
when they port the definitive version of P5 to the PC.

>How long until we get this type of character that existed Pre 3 but I've never played those games

>>380770921
Yeah he was definitely an improvement from 3 and 4, but he's still pretty Gary Stu-y

>>380770226
that's persona 4 you're talking about.

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>>380769693
he's as much as a gary stu as you want him to be.
he'll never be able to get THE best girl unless you work hard enough to get max charm

>>380769693
that is literally the whole point of persona
on multiple levels

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>>380769693
June, 2000

>>380771163
>>380770131
>>380771595
I obviously meant a game with Persona 3/4/5 gameplay, but with a mc with actual personality

>>380769828
>>380770218

seriously.

why they hell did they never do that for any other game?

>>380771234
>Got false charged
>forced to move to tokyo
>treated badly by everyone since the record shit
>almost got expelled by the teacher
>lived in a fucking attic
Which part of his is gary stu again.
Let me repeat, Gary Stu doesn't have any moment where he's in disadvantage.

So your claim is literally invalid.

>>380771986
Demands aren't enough for it to guarantee good sales.
As much as you tries to justify your own needs, you're still in the minority.

>>380772167
>Let me repeat, Gary Stu doesn't have any moment where he's in disadvantage.

what?

>>380771234

the mary stu is both makoto, and futaba

>>380772478
>mary stu is both makoto, and futaba
>both awkward as fuck and have their moments of idiocy

I don't think you know what that word means

>>380772167
That's just his background though. When it comes to the main group dynamic he is still undeniably a Gary Stu.
But I guess that will inevitably happen when a character that barely talks is chosen unanimously as the group leader.

>>380772703

>having autism precludes you from being a mary sue

joker dies without either of them in the story, and both are the reason you get a chance to take down the bad guy. futabas E L I T E hacking is a dues ex machina for the game

>>380772867
Logically and technically, he's the one with the most experience out of the group, so it makes sense.
Nothing Stu about that.

I do know what you feel though. Saying character that you don't like because you hated how popular it became as a Gary stu is understandable though.

>>380773126
>are female
>are important to the plot
>must be Mary Sue!!!

>>380771595
>Maya in EP
>actual personality

>>380773297

>important to the plot
>literally the two most important characters in the game

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>380773435
thats right anon, the most important characters are important to the plot

>>380773168
>with the most experience
You mean being better than everyone for some magical reason?

>>380773297
No they're Mary Sues because they take extra effort into letting you know how awesome they are.

>Makoto joins
>Everyone treats everything she says as the best thing ever and praises her smarts all the time, someone else has a suggestion? Nope! Makoto has it, don't need it.

>Futaba joins after doing her palace
>Despite the fact she gets an entire arc of the game dedicated to herself, they still spend most of summer vaccation "trying to get her out of her Hikki-ness"
>Starts the Mona hate train that ends up with the needless drama

>>380773313
She has personality but less so than IS because she lost the ability to speak along along with becoming the protag.

>>380772867>>380769693


>needs a haircut
>looks like a sperg all the time
>le the quiet people are the most dangerous
>does that beckoning motion every time they win a battle that i'll never get used to
>talking animation consists of him fiddling his hair

I've never once gotten the notion that the kid i'm playing was a gary stu. Seems too quiet and awkward and reminds me too much of myself

>>380773802
Are you baiting or just stupid?

do you even know what a Mary Sue is?

>>380773297
People don't exactly know what a mary sue is so ignore them

>>380774146
We're in 4chan, so the fact we're both stupid isn't a question.

The true question is: Am I baiting?

>>380769693
This. I want Persona 6 to have this loser protagonist you play as that has character flaws of their own.

>>380772167
>>380773979


>Is magically better than everyone else just because
>is treated like a charismatic leader even though he rarely talks
>Every fucking woman in the game lusts after him, including his teacher and two little girls

>not a Gary Stu

>>380773802
>Everyone treats everything she says as the best thing ever and praises her smarts all the time
That only happend like twice the whole game
Makoto maybe be bossy at times but she's the smartest one in the group before Futaba joins so they must hear her out

>they still spend most of summer vaccation "trying to get her out of her Hikki-ness"
The vacation wasn't entirely about her anon. there was moments for each of the group
If you've mentioned her hacking skills then I'd agree with you on that

Just finished the 3rd Palace.
Can someone tell me-- when does the gundealer's inventory get updated? I wanna avoid buying something, waiting a few days, and then there being something way better.

>>380769693
>>380774471

probably will never happen since this series must pander to neckbeard weebs who want to imagine themselves fucking Japanese Teenage girls

>>380774783
Just rank his SL up

>>380769828
I'd fucking love a femmc but I was just thinking the other day how much fucking shit there would be if Atlus pulled the "Valentines day cheating beatdown" with a female character.

>>380774625
>>380773979
He is a Gary Stu but people that don't know he gets shit done must think he is an autistic chuuni

>>380774783
>I wanna avoid buying something, waiting a few days, and then there being something way better.

This is a JRPG, did you sincerely expect any different than what you just stated just because the name is PERSONA?

The answer is: you can find better stuff in mementos most of the time, go to him only to fill gaps, or to get guns.

Best guns and equipment in the game is gotten from Itemizing personas.

>>380774625
>>Is magically better than everyone else just because
like what, eating big bang burgers?

>>is treated like a charismatic leader even though he rarely talks
that shit still baffles me. It's obviously just some weak self-insert element. I'm not even convinced myself that he's the leader to be quite honest, senpai

>>Every fucking woman in the game lusts after him, including his teacher and two little girls
Not true. Most of the girls show no sign of interest until you confess, to which they feel like they owe you something for spending time with them. The only girl that seems to take obvious interest in you is chihaya. Everyone else is literally yours to give or take and who knows how well these relationships last after the fact

>>380775107
it honestly wouldnt be funny with a femmcc though

Just have her boyfriends abandon her and cut to her eating ice cream alone or something

How would harem valentines look for femmc?

>>380775218
no, because i expect his inventory to refresh based on story triggers, e.g. is it when you find the treasure, finish a palace, change of heard, etc.
is there trigger points, or is it random?

>>380775593
A gangbang

>>380775321
>like what, eating big bang burgers?
at literally everything dude

>they feel like they owe you something for spending time with them

wtf? not only is that not at all what happens, that sounds like a horrible foundation to a relationship

>>380775593
>>380775360

>>380775593
>all romanceable males arguing
>Iwai trying to calm down everyone, only to get punched in a face by Mishima out of nowhere
>Iwai grabs Mishima and throws him out the window
>they start fighting for femmc's chocolate
>In the end they realise mc is not worth it and go somewhere together without you
>Sojiro scolds you for being unfaithful
>last scene is Mc in pajamas eating icecreams from a big bucket and watching tv

>>380773724
See? That's your mindset.
Anything I said and you'll just goes
>NO HE'S STU LOL

In your eyes EVERY PROTAGONIST is a gary stu.

>>380775593
She should get her ass beaten.

>>380775593
>FemMC
>Shide outright claims he has been bent over by a schoolgirl
>Becomes laughtingstock of whole japan

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>>380769693
What is Persona 2?

>>380775953
>>Sojiro scolds you for being unfaithful
nah, he'd comfort her like he does with male mc

other than that, pretty perfect though

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Joker has an actual personality, though.

Anyways, going against thirty year old sacred MegaTen tradition of silent protagonist would probably result in disaster. (Unless if picrelated's protagonist talked, which I don't think he did)

>>380775782
>at literally everything dude
come on, you've gotta be more specific than that if you want to convince me. I went through the entire game and the only skills that I was convinced that mc excelled at was making lockpicks and eating giant burgers

>that sounds like a horrible foundation to a relationship
you know how many girls get shot or murdered every year for turning down autistic, self-centered egocentric fucks with inferiority complex?

>>380775782
>>380776460
samefag

Honestly who would be romanceable for the Female Protagonist? Obviously it'd be Ryuji, Yusuke and Mishima, but I'm not sure how well it'd be for the other male confidants. I mean I guess you can pull another /ss/ with Shinya, and maybe jailbait Iwai, but an option with Akechi seems fucked up.

>>380776598
Sounds pretty boring to be honest.

>>380776482
Tatsuya and Maya both has character in their game and the other's

Flynn talk in IV:A

>>380776598
Akechi has good potential for being extreamly messed up.

>>380776026
It's just that you used the word "experience" when in actuality he doesn't have more experience than the early members. In fact Morgana was the only one with significantly more experience than the others.

>>380776598
they all seem like good candidates. Akechi would be interesting to see
Mishima to me seems like he'll be trash tier though.

>>380776487
>you know how many girls get shot or murdered every year for turning down autistic, self-centered egocentric fucks with inferiority complex?
what the fuck man

probably not that many overall, and what does that have to do with anything?

sae is bae
that is call

>>380776858
So vote system then?
Still doesn't make it gary stu.
Choosing leader by votes is literally a common thing.

>>380777091
>she has cut dialog where she says she loves Joker

ATLUUUUUUUUUUUS

So do you want to play as a loser who gets rejected by everyone?

You can do that if you go outside OP

>>380776460
>Lone valentines end up as a dinner with Sojiro

>>380776842
>>380776964
Meh, female Akechi have better potential.

>>380777208
persona 5 crimson with romanceable sae when

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>>380776598
Akechi will just be another Ryoji. Pretty much tragic lovers.

Reminder that a female Joker dating Iwai would make her a mom.

>>380777224
Can I summon personas and fight shadows/demons?

>>380777224
Problem is OP can't get immersed in the game if character aren't relatable as him.
Now, if only the MC is a fat neckbeard pretty sure OP think that MC had A LOT OF PERSONALITY.

>>380777415
No, but you can use masks and fight crippling depression

>>380777001
look man, I don't know what game you played but MC is not a gary stu like you're so led on to believe.
He's too quiet, is too much of an observer, doesn't have all these skills which you so insistently claim, needs a haircuit already etc.

He even weasled out when trying to convince his love for ryuji

>>380777415
No, but you can use mask and pretend to be anonymouse legion.

>>380776759
I was talking about the player character talking normally, which they don't.

>>380777643
Vincent.

>>380777643
They actually DID TALK NORMALY.
Just because your way of talking is abnormal doesn't mean everyone have to follow your way of talking.

Fucking asperger I swear to god.

>>380777728
Touche. He is, in fact, the only MegaTen to talk normally while simultaneously being the player character.

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>>380777415
fighting demons with personas was just hashino's way of illustrating power struggles that we face in society anon, you just need to believe in yourself then you can change the world

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>>380769693
Years ago

>>380777784
At what point in their games, in which they were the playable character, did they speak like any other character?

Flynn was not the main character in Apocalypse, that fuck with the clover was.

>>380777958
But part of the reasons why I like SMT and Persona is that I can collect and power up mythological figures.

>>380769693
hopefully never

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>>380777958
>Play Persona 5
>Same problem as irl
>Well fuck they just fighting demons to fix their problem,
>Wait
>You need to fight your inner demon to solved your life problem
Woah, that's pretty deep.
Can't believe I'm going to give this game a 10/10

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>>380778074
Literally a post above you.
Fucking play Persona 2 nigger.

>>380778423
Tatsuya is silent in his game and only talks during Maya's game, and vice versa, no?

>>380778074
P4 Arena does that.

>>380770594
nips love self inserts

>>380778165
you can do that too man, you just gotta look hard enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTq2cRvxdz8

>>380778306
it's cheesy as hell writing but beats anything that mainline recycles

>>380778526
But no one is the singular playable main character in that game.

>>380769693
Persona 2 already exists.

>>380778531
What is this something like Ars Goetia?

>>380770594
Because it doesn't matters in the end since it was only about fighting demons and saving the world.
Personality is a waste.

>>380778754
>But no one is the singular playable main character in that game.
Literally Yu and Adachi.
also you literally said "playable character and speak like any other character"
now you add "singular"
You just got caught moving the goalpost fucker.v

>>380771653
You don't even get a guy with personality for most titles in the franchise let alone persona though

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>>380777958
>implying you can do shit

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>>380778074
Aigis did.

>>380779045
>using :v

Holy shit motherfucking kill yourself, opinion discarded, go back to plebbit and kys

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>>380779045
>Adachi
>In Persona 4 Arena

>>380770226
>for no reason
>perfect hair and smile

>>380771653
They got personality, it just that your understanding of "personality" is pretty limited.

The design, dialogue choice, gesture.
There's a lot of personality in there. I mean I'm no expert, but have you tried talking to some of the experts that you know of?
Pretty sure they'll give the same answer.

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>>380778878
it's ogun, obviously

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>>380779201
You just implied plebbit is smarter than you.

>>380779279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goxEqLDspOA

>>380769693
>instead of a self-insert Gary Stu
He's only a Gary Stu if you play like it, dumbass.

>>380779675
I never implied shit you fucking nigger, I wasn't the guy arguing with you, but you outed yourself as a fucking tourist with that :v you threw there, kys

>>380779898
hey you blind fuck, why don't you ACTUALLY SCREEN SHOT YOUR CLAIM RATHER THAN FUCKING ACCUSE ME OF THE SHIT I DIDN'T DO?
SCREEN SHOT IT, CIRCLE IT IN RED AND PROVED IT THAT I ACTUALLY TYPE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

You just sperging because my point is actually right, nice try moving the goal post though. fucking retard.
>WAAH IT'S NOT ME

I think OP is trying to say is that even though Joker has a character, his character is underwhelming and has little flaws of where character development would take place to fix those flaws. So kind of like how they gave Yu his own shadow in the P4 animation to distinguish him more.

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>>380779675
>Ultimax is Arena
???

>>380780186
>moving the goal post

>>380780168
The guy yelling at you about :v and the guy claiming that MegaTen has no playable protagonists who can speak (besides Aigis and Vincent) are two different people.

t. The latter

>>380780168
CHECK IT FOR YOURSELF YOU DUMB FUCKING RETARD
>>380779045
LOOK AT THE EXACT END OF EVERYTHING YOU WROTE, HOLY SHIT MOTHERFUCKING KILL YOURSELF REDDITOR PIECE OF SHIT FUCK

>>380780179
Nah I think OP just a faggot as usual.

>>380780274
Ultimax and Arena are different games.

Regardless, Arena definitely doesn't have a protagonist, and Ultimax has two stories which follow multiple characters across multiple points of view.

>>380780330
>.v
YOU SURE SHOW IT FAGGOT.

>>380780496
IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME YOU FUCKING TOURIST PIECE OF SHIT, YOU THAT FACEBOOK TIER GARBAGE HERE AND YOU KNOW YOU DON'T BELONG HERE FUCKING KILL YOURSELF YOU CAN'T TURN IT AROUND

>>380780629
How can you type if you're so blind, retard.

>>380780629
what's a matter anon? :v

>>380780629
(.v:

>>380780781
You used it you huge fucking faggot, it's right there, the proof is there
>>380780807
>>380780812
KILL YOURSELVES

>>380780882
>proof is there
>can't pointed it out
Heh.

>>380776598

Come on, let her pull a FeMC and save Akechi through the power of boners.

>>380781347
I rather female Akechi to be honest.