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Dragon Ball Fighter Z roster prediction

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Locks:
-Future Trunks
-Picollo
-Gotenks
-18
-Krilin
-Beerus
-Another adult Goku: either Blue, Black or SSJ4

High Probability:
-Tien
-Kid Buu
-Mystic Gohan
-Vegito
-Kid Goku(DB ver.)
-17
-Broly

Low probability:
-Pikkon
-Hit
-Zamasu
-Tao
-Roshi
-Another Vegeta
-Gogeta
-Mr. Satan
-Yamcha
-16
-20
-Bardock
-Chiatozu
-Dabura
-Super Buu
-Raditz
-Zarbon
-Nappa
-Recoome
-Ginyu
-rest of the Ginyu Force
-Bojack
-Cooler
-Janemba
-Any GT character or form
-Any Super character or form not mentioned above
-Any Movie character not mentioned above
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>>380752602
Wee I'm playing the newest Xenoverse now we don't have to pretend to like fighting games
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>>380753963
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>>380752602
I hope Yamcha gets in because if they make his remote control energy ball like Millia's he may be very high tier.
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>>380755037
Puar summon
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Has there been a game that had 18 but not 17? It just seems weird to be that people put them in different tiers, she was grossly irrelevant in Buu.
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>>380755748
18 is the only viable female fighter in Z

I'd rather have Super 17 than vanilla
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>>380755037
This and make Puar like Atrocitous's cat Dexstar in IJ2.
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>>380754079
Missing the elbow drop Cell did on Vegeta right after he turned perfect.
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>>380755748
She fought in the world tournament and hung out with the zfighters whereas 17 disappeared. Also she's one of the only females in a sausage fest of a show.
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>>380754079
>>380753963
>>380753759
>>380753663
>>380753496
>>380753351
>>380753248
You do these yourself?
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>-Another adult Goku: either Blue, Black or SSJ4

No. Demo's Goku is called only "Goku" (just like teen Gohan is called gohan)

Let's pray we won't have 1000x variations of the same character

Kid Trunks and Future Trunks are acceptable tho, different characters
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>>380752602
They'll probably shoo in a bunch of females like Videl and that super saiyan from Super. Maybe even Chi-chi or Bulma.
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>>380757535
Only female will be 18, the Super female sayajins don't have enough material yet
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>>380758669
thanks for the karma faggot
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I think Ginyu and Satan have a pretty good chance
They're really prominent characters and Arcsys loves dumb gimmick shit
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>>380757456
I could see them having Great Saiyaman in addition to Gohan
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>>380753496
>Goku kick, 3 column 3rd row
this is from the Kid Buu vs SSJ2 Goku fight.
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>>380755748
Both Shin Budokais on PSP.
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>>380755748
>she was grossly irrelevant in Buu.
And still more relevant than 17 was. In fact, Toriyama on a split decision edited Launch giving energy to the spirit bomb into 17 doing it. 17's character was over after Cell died, 18 still had a little bit left.
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>>380759418

Which is funny, because they could at least show 17 visiting 18 and the kid before he flies off to do ranger stuff.
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>>380757535
I wouldn't make much sense, but I could see Bulma being the Faust/Teddie of the game.
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Who else picked up rev 2 to practice?
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>>380760358
>uchiyama trash
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>>380752602
The only problem I have with this game is that there will probably be a distinct lack of waifus.
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>>380761254
Best girl is guaranteed to make it though.
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>>380753248
>>380753351
>>380753496
>>380753663
>>380753759
>>380753963
>>380754079

And to think, the game's only 20% done according to the devs. This may be one of the best fighters we've gotten in years. Crapcom and MCU gonna get BTFO this fall.
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What would a realistic number of characters for this be?
Previous licensed ASW games had a roster of around 10-15 characters (first versions), but this is a 3vs3 so I can see it being around 21.
Aside the already confirmed ones, I expect to see:
>Future Trunks
>Gotenks
>Krillin
>18
>Adult Gohan
>Kid Buu
>Ginyu
>Beerus
>Broly

And maybe others like Tenshinhan, Roshi or Mr Satan, the rest are wild cards for me. I guess it wouldn't hurt to include some variations, just keeping them at minimum.

>>380761254
That's just the nature of Dragon Ball, both Hokuto no Ken and Sengoku Basara fighting games made by arcsys had a grand total of 1 female playable character, so unless a miracle happens, I don't see this being any different in that regard.
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>>380761254
That's what happens when every female character in the series gives up fighting to become a housewive full-time never to be seen again.
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base roster is gonna 22
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>>380761838
This, I still wish videl was still a fighter.
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I just hope they have different character skins. I really wanna play as Goku with the torn up suit from the final fight with freeza at destroyed namek.
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Like it or not Caulifia and/or Kale are going to be in the game so they have some semblance of females in it.
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>>380761838
Reminder that Fasha/Selypa died fighting.

best girl tb.h
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>>380762187
no they won't, they have no fucking moveset yet
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Dtagonball the best DLC
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>>380762002
>tfw Videl will never acquire retarded lore breaking strength to save the world
>tfw the family of Mr. Satan will forever remain a family of losers and frauds
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>>380760358
I literally just got back from getting it for that same reason. But now I've fallen in love with it, shame it took a new DBZ game to get me to try it.
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>>380762187
They'll be DLC. They haven't even had any real fights in the show yet. For female fighters though I always wanted to have Bulma playable in these games. She could pilot that power armor like on Namek and use all kinds of other shitty gadgets, maybe even have Launch or some other forgotten side characters as assists.
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>>380762312
>implying they won't have a moveset in the next couple of months
>implying Toei won't simply tell them a moveset so they can market their new cash cows

Face it, DBZ doesn't have many females. Video is a possibility, but she'd have even fewer possible moves than the female saiyans.
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Will any Dragonball games ever have an Ost as good as Budokai?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfU1eW_mkgE
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>>380762187
I hope so
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>>380764617
with music like that. hopefully never
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>>380764617
No because Kenji Yamamoto got sacked after it was found that he'd plagiarized his entire career
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>>380763730
>but she'd have even fewer possible moves than the female saiyans
Videl has actually fought before. Caulifla flew around and deflected a ki blast.

Videl also has her animations from the xenoverse games and the tenkaichi games.

Videl > Kale >>>>>>>>> Caulifla in terms of attack potential.
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Post never evers
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>>380752602
why are you still giving a shit about DBZ?
Aren't you a little old to be watching this tripe?
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>>380761942
I'd be happy with that
As long as we get Roshi
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Does it bug anybody else that Nova Strike and You Will Die by My Hand are higher level supers then Death Ball?
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>>380761459
Holy fucking sauce
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>>380765925
>Individual Ginyu force characters

No. Too much effort taking up too much space for too little reward.

Ginyu Force should be playable as a pack. You play Ginyu and all of his attacks are supported by GF members.
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great ape form for grappler, maybe?
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>>380761459
I never understood how Krillin and 18 ended up together.

Was there a hidden romance subplot I missed?
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>>380752602
>Goku
>Vegeta
>Teen Gohan
>Mystic Gohan
>Piccolo
>Future Trunks
>Krillin
>Ten shin han
>A18
>Gotenks
>Vegito
>Ginyu
>Frieza
>Cell
>Majin Buu
>Kid Buu
>Broly
>Beerus
>Goku Black
>Hit
>Zamasu

DLC
>Bardock
>Janemba
>Gogeta
>SSB Vegito
>Merged Zamasu
>Baby Vegeta
>Super 17
>Omega Shenron
>SSJ4 Gogeta

Perfect roster
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>>380766250
He pulled her out of Cell
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>>380766153
Captain Commando style? That'd be great, might even main him if that's the case
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>>380766362
>9 DLC characters
>perfect
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>>380766250
Was the only one who gave a shit about her and saved her life, wished for the bomb removal etc.

She repaid his kindness with loyal pussy because she is best girl
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>>380766362
Where is Goku Blue?
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>>380752602
Yamcha's more of a "lock" than Gotenks because he's memetically popular whereas hardly anyone remembers that Gotenks even exists.

Base roster's probably going to be something along the lines of
>Goku
>Krillin
>Vegeta
>Piccolo
>Teen Gohan
>(Mystic) Gohan
>Future Trunks
>Android 18
>Tien
>Yamcha
>Roshi
>Majin Buu
>Beerus
>Frieza
>Cell
>Kid Buu
>Broly
>Arale
>Goku Black
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>>380766873
>whereas hardly anyone remembers that Gotenks even exists.
I don't know where you get that impression, but at least when it comes to Dragon Ball fighting games, Gotenks has been playable in pretty much every one of them.
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I would love if they added 19/20 and gave them a grapple move that would steal meter. I like how Street Fighter 5 gave Nash that ability but it's just a shame that game is garbage.
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>>380766362
>DLC characters
>perfect roster
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>>380752602
no satan no buy
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>>380765925
Why do people want Videl?
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>>380766873
People remember Gotenks, literally the only actually memorable thing to come out of the fusion nonsense the series pushed for a while
It's Goten that no one (both in-series and out of it) gives a shit about
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>>380767062
Not to mention he's got potential for one of the most unique movesets
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>>380767096
Yeah 19 would be perfect honestly but I just don't know if there will be room for him
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>>380767359
Either they are Videl fans or just want to see more female characters in what has always been a male dominant franchise, so there's not much were to choose from.
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>>380767359
Lack of memorable females I guess. Being able to run a family team of Gohan/Videl/Piccolo would be cute though.
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>>380767361
>It's Goten that no one (both in-series and out of it) gives a shit about
Post your address anon I'll fight you
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>>380757456
They will probably do skins/costumes.
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>>380752602
OP is a joke.
>100% chance
Future Trunks
Piccolo
Krillin
SSJ Blue Goku
Kid Buu

>75% chance
Beerus
SSJ Blue Vegeta
Adult Gohan
Super Buu
Broly
Bardock
18
Gotenks
Hercule
Califlua
Zamasu/Goku Black (One or the other)
Vegito

>50% chance
Hit
Kale
Ginyu
Recoome
Nappa
Raditz
Dabura
Tien
Cooler
Roshi
16
17
Janemba
Gogeta
Videl

>25% chance
Bojack
Roshi
Pikkon
DB Goku
Bulma
Chi-Chi
Yamcha
Guldo
Great Sayaman
Kid Gohan
Spopovitch
13
20
16
Meta Cooler
Supreme Kai
Characters that haven't debut in DB Super yet
OC Donut Steel

>10% chance
Zarbon
Dodoria
Tao
19
Tarble
Goten
Kid Trunks
Garlic Jr.
Lord Slug
Tapion
First form Cell
First form Frieza
Cyber Frieza
King Cold
Demon King Piccolo
King Kai
Arale

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRjkYVcyHJI
Anyone from GT
SSJ4s
Anything else, really
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>>380766250
Gero's implants were designed to make her desire undesirable males
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I'm so fucking hyped to play this, imagine this at EVO finals

I think that I could never really get that much into other fighters because a lot of the characters are unknown most of the time while in this I've known all of them for 20 years, which really makes me want to play and learn each one of them. I think this is also the reason why so many people are attracted to smash bros
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>>380767957
I don't think Arale is that unlikely at all. You guys do keep saying that there's a lack of chicks to choose from, like her or not she's the most 'unique' one available. Also Toriyama likes her a lot but admittedly I have no idea how much of an effect that'd have on this game.
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>>380767957
>>380752602
>DBS characters on a DBZ game
I hope you're both wrong.
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>>380768019
Guess that malfunctioned then because she ended up with the most stable male in that group.
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>>380767957
>inb4 fusions actually merge 2 of your 3 characters into one instead of being a selectable character
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>>380768231
There's no way Beerus won't be in the game.
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He's in, right?
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>>380757456
>No Kid Goku with Flying Nimbus

OG Dragon Ball needs a rep, and Kid Goku seems like the best choice.
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>>380768231
Gold Frieza is already in the game. This means we're pretty much 100% getting Beerus, some sort of Zamasa/Goku Black, and Califlua.
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who /gotenks/ here
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>>380765925
>no Supreme Kai
Why do we live if only to suffer?
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>>380768231
>DBZ game
According to the title it's a Dragonball game
where's Tao, Eighter and King Piccolo?
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>>380768692
He never did enough fighting to really give him a moveset
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>>380768832
Honestly, I wouldn't be that shocked if we got one of those three. Unlikely its Eighter though.
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>>380768173

Arale would just piss off countless people.
Gotenks is almost mandatory and hes a "crazy" child fighter as well, no need for Arale.
Chi-Chi and Videl are both possible (once you "allow" Krillin to beat SSJ3 Goku, you might as well put those two in, power levels are invalid at that point).
Maybe even Launch or Bulma with capsules if they want to go super crazy, not bot fucking Arale.
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>>380768621
Califlua has no moveset and at best will be dlc if she does anything during the tournament

Kale could get in if they decide to snub Broly and give her his moveset
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>Teen Gohan
>Gotenks
>18

Beat me faggots
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>>380768832
>Dragonball Fighters Z
>Fighters Z
>Z
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>>380765925
where are these sprites from? butoden?
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>>380769119
Fighterz and not Fighters Z but yeah. If they wanted to plainly state that it's DBZ and nothing else then they would've just called it Dragonball Z Fighters though.
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>>380752602
Delicious 30fps
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>>380768231
Right? Characters from other parts in a game labeled as Z, what an outrageous thought.
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>>380768924
I wish Piccolo could have just grown a pair and fought him so my boy could get a moveset
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>>380753563
i didn't know father balder was in dmc4

guess i should give it a playthrough
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>>380768173
All I know is they didn't include her in any of the original Budokai games, Infinite World, Tenkaichi 1 and 2, Super DBZ, or Burst Limit. The only games that include her also include Z Listers like Devilman. Even idiots like Appule were in games before she was.
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>>380768832
We never see #8 fight properly though, we just hear people including Goku say that he's strong.
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>>380769267
Wow that looks like shit.
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>>380768643
Right here
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>>380768924
He had a full moveset in Budokai Tenkaichi.
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>>380752602
>thinking Toei and Toriyama won't be forcing their Mary Sue saiyan in

You can't be this stupid
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>>380769681
>Mary Sue saiyan
Yeah Future Trunks is a shoe-in.
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>>380769062
I don't think ASW cares that much about how many moves exist for a character, just like the devs of Budokai didn't care when they made up new moves for characters that needed them. I mean, Great Sayaman's Justice Kick never even appeared outside of the video games, and originated in fucking Ultimate Battle 22 (I unfortunately bought that fucking game, and still own a copy).
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>>380769539
At the time, when you weren't probably born yet, it looked gorgeous.
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>>380769539
>he's never seen a BT game in his life
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I want to play caulifla!
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>>380769853
I think it was already said that they're wanting to make more of a competitive fighter rather than a fan pandering one.
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>>380753663
>>380753759
>>380753963
>>380754079

Holy shit.
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>>380769853
Good point. All they have to do is ask the creative team working on Super "Hey, can you tell me what a few of those new sayian girls moves are so we can put them in the video game for cross promotional reasons?", and they'll give it the thumbs up, and put those moves in the game.
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>>380770076
Waku Waku!
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>>380752602
Budokai 3 was the best in the series.

Debate me. You will lose.
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>>380769972
>>380770014
I'm 21 faggots I meant it looks like shit now. I used to play it all the time.
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>>380770789
>I'm 21
Sure you are, Jimmy.
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>>380770865
Do I make you insecure old man? Why don't you go harass the kids down at the park.
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>>380767361
>literally the only actually memorable thing to come out of the fusion nonsense the series pushed for a while
vegito is far more popular...
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>>380758669
nice normie meme
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>>380771257
I prefer to harass your mother every night in the bedroom but she doesn't seem to dislike it.
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>>380771363
My mother is 65. That's pretty gross.
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>>380771624
Well, she fucks like she's 30, kiddo. The more you know.
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>>380771624
Your mother had you at 44? No wonder you ended up being autistic as fuck.
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>Vegeta
>Trunks
>Piccolo

Vegeta for long range beam attacks and semi aggressive rush down. Trunks for pure rush and up close. Piccolo for a tricky character.

There is no better team, this will be the optimized team.
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You know what, there are actually so many characters I like I'm not even able to make a 3slots dream team right now.
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>>380752602
If they put in Gotenks, i hope he is in his SSJ3 form only
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Piccolo and Vegeta will 100% be in my team, not sure about the third one.
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>>380755837
It doesn't matter how strong characters are in the series. That should be irrelevant to the game. Otherwise it'd be pointless to have Kid Gohan, Fat Buu, Cell, in this game as they;d get destroyed by Frieza and Goku and Vegeta now.
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>>380752602
With how much emphesis they're putting on having a unique cast, I severly doubt we're getting another adult Goku unless his fighting style is completely different. Black has a chance. SSB can be an alternate costume and you lose absolutely nothing because it looks/fights the same as normal Goku. Just trade SS3 for Kaioken
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>>380766182
No grappling/throwing in DBZF. If they could grapple, I could easily see them as non-playable bosses that you could play as via cheating and/or exploits
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>>380775920
>bulma
>expected
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No Ginyu, no buy.

That goes for the whole force.
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>>380775920
>whore bulma over tenshinhan, the strongest human
I commend you for your impeccable taste (whore bulma is second only to 80s pornstar hair bulma in terms of which bulma is best bulma), but let's be real here
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>>380769310
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>>380775920
>expecting Bulma to be in a Dragonball fighting game
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>>380776378

This isn't a casual game like Budokai or Xenoverse. If you're buying it for any reason other than because you want to get good at a fighting game, you're going to drop it after a day anyway.
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>>380776560
whore bulma always had a bunch of capsules on her, you could implement that into her fighting style and have her as a joke character that actually turns out to be pretty decent. an ultimate where she drops a house on you sounds pretty choice ngl
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>>380776256
>>380776560
>so stupid that you can't imagine a gameplay for her
Just a hint: She will use Capsules.
You will have a Time Machine over your head in no time.
Arcsys are genius and waifu lovers, deal with.
>>
There better be at least 30-35 playable characters.
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>>380776256
>>380776428
>>380776560
I actually think he has a point

Bulma is considerably more popular than characters like Tien or Bardock. Seeing as they aren't doing stuff like assists only characters like the 3DS game I'd say her chances are not that bad.

Plus they said they wanted more variety, she could basically be Rocket Raccoon
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>>380767957
>SSJ4s
>No chance
I agree on anything else from GT, but seriously it's possible.
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>>380776818
I'm not saying she can't be implemented as a character, but expecting her as if she was a common occurrence on DB games is just silly.
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>>380752602
With a roster of 26, I'd say...
- Goku (SSJ1, SSJB RF alt costume)
- Vegeta (SSJ1, SSJB RF alt)
- Gohan (SSJ2 Teen)
- Mystic Gohan
- Piccolo
- Krillin
- Future Trunks (SSJ w/ sword, super Alt)
- Tienshinhan
- Yamcha
- Gotenks (SSJ1)
- Raditz
- Nappa
- Ginyu
- Frieza
- Android 17
- Android 18
- Android 16
- Cell
- Dabura
- Majin Buu
- Kid Buu
- Bardock
- Broly
- Kid Goku

Unlockable
- Beerus (Last Boss)
- Goku Black (SSJR, Secret Boss)

DLC
- Super Vegetto (SSJB alt)
- Gogeta (SSJ1, SSJ4 alt)
- Merged Zamasu
- Arale

Fusions with the excption of Gotenks are super powerful and worth two characters on the selection screen, same for Beerus
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>>380776841
>initial release of an ArcSys game
>expecting anything more than 22 at best
You're going to be disappointed
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>>380776818
>guns and capsules
I was thinking about this too.
Not to mention she really is an important character.
>>
For the love of God, PLEASE let there be a couple DB reps. Kid Goku alone would be fine, I just want SOMETHING.
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>>380752602
Everyday I wake up wishing Dragon Ball Super was just a figment of my imagination, but alas, it appears it is still real, and so real are those shitty movies.

This is not a good timeline... Not at all my friends.
>>
Goku
Vegeta
Gohan
Future Trunks
Gotenks
Piccolo
18
Krillin
Tien + Chiaotzu
Yamcha
Roshi
Videl
Satan
Jaco
Tao Pai-Pai
Freeza
Cell
Buu
Ginyu + Force
Nappa
Dabura + Babidi
Janemba
Broly
Beerus
Zamasu
Bardock
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>>380776818
>Arcsys are genius and waifu lovers, deal with.
Everything about their games tells me that Arale seems like someone they'd go for yet you've put her in never ever tier for some reason.
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>>380775371
>no grappling
Fuck off, Dragon Rushes are throws, Cell has a bearhug, grabs are in
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>>380777671
Animation is the only thing it does particularly worse than Buu Saga DBZ to be honest. I don't even like Super much but most of the guys complaining about it do so over pretty hypocritical reasons.
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>>380777671
Cry harder.
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>>380777052

It would be silly to ignore all of the interesting characters in DBZ lore. They have so much to work from, especially from previous game to not add a large roster. The game is also a 3v3; a small roster would get boring incredibly fast.

This game could be a competitive fcg staple if they get a decent roster size, value in-depth mechanics over casual players, and prioritize cross play.
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>>380778006
Super is a mess.
It's badly animated, badly written, and it's not fun at all.
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>>380757456
But Goku Black will probably be a completely separate character if he gets in
And you just know they will put him in.
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>>380778006
I liked the high school Gohan SoL filler.
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>>380776992
She was never used in a fighting game and with that simple fact, Arcsys will make her playable because it's unexpected and really new.

Also, don't forget this:
>"we are actually selecting characters that would have the most unique kind-of attacks and bring their uniqueness"

>>380777797
IClearly, she is in my Never Ever case, but the thing could really happen.
They have said this to GameInformer:
>If at all possible I would love to see Arale from Dr. Slump in the game.
>We heard that.
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>>380778006
This really, DB went down hill in the cell saga really never mind buu. Not like it was perfect before that either

DB just gets by on something hard to place, it just manages to have enjoyable execution even when the content is not that good.

>>380778358
I did as well and would be happy if they had made super just that
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>>380778160
It's also an ArcSys game though. ArcSys games never have big rosters at first.
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>ctrl+f "Towa"
>0 result
Come the fuck on
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>>380776428
>Tien
>human
Do we have to debate this again?
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>>380778160
That's just not how ArcSys does things. It won't have a 30+ character roster at release.
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>>380778741
>implying anyone actually plays as towa

She's just eye candy and a reason for trunks to send you back in time so xenoverse wouldn't be yet another retelling of the same story
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>>380778765
It depends

DB characters seem to have less moves so that is less work, and it being such a well known franchise likely a better budget. Probably won't be 30+ but it will be more than console Xrd
>>
No Mr. Satan, no buy
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>>380773540
If the DB fighting games took power into account literally every character would lose to Whis. It would not be possible to beat him.
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If they're just using Z characters
>Goku (Super Saiyan)
>Vegeta (Super Saiyan)
>Teen Gohan (Super Saiyan 2)
>Krillin
>Tien
>Piccolo
>Nappa
>Captain Ginyu
>Frieza (Final Form, Golden)
>Future Trunks (Super Saiyan)
>16
>18
>Cell (Super Perfect)
>Mr. Satan
>Adult Gohan (Ultimate)
>Gotenks (Super Saiyan 3)
>Majin Buu
>Super Buu (Base, Gohan Absorbed)
>Kid Buu
>Vegito (Super Saiyan)
>Beerus
>Bardock
>Cooler (Fifth Form)
>Broly (Legendary Super Saiyan)
>Janemba
>Gogeta (Super Saiyan)

If they're including Super characters
>Goku (Super Saiyan)
>Vegeta (Super Saiyan)
>Teen Gohan (Super Saiyan 2)
>Krillin
>Piccolo
>Frieza (Final Form, Golden)
>Future Trunks (Super Saiyan)
>18
>Cell (Super Perfect)
>Adult Gohan (Ultimate)
>Gotenks (Super Saiyan 3)
>Majin Buu
>Kid Buu
>Vegito (Super Saiyan)
>Broly (Legendary Super Saiyan)
>Goku (Super Saiyan Blue)
>Vegeta (Super Saiyan Blue)
>Beerus
>Bardock
>Hit
>Goku Black (Super Saiyan Rose)
>Zamasu
>Merged Zamasu (Base, Light of Justice)
>Cabba/Kale/Caulifla
>Toppo
>Jiren
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>>380778493
>we are actually selecting characters that would have the most unique kind-of attacks and bring their uniqueness"
Is this quote real ? That's reassuring.
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>>380778750
he's part human and part 3eyed alien race
its more of a earthling thing in db
since there are animal people too
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>>380778965
I'm hopeful that it will be larger than their usual rosters, like maybe 26 characters, but only because they stated it's only 20% finished
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>>380777671
You might as well stick to the Dragon Ball manga and never touch the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball GT, Dragon Ball Kai, Dragon Ball Super, any of the movies, the games, the OVAs, etc. You'll get your core Dragon Ball experience and ignore all of the fat.
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>>380779107
Whis as final boss when?
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>>380779127
Yes, there is that too:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/06/16/bandai-namco-on-why-a-2d-fighting-game-was-the-right-choice-for-dragon-ball.aspx?utm_content=buffer2a750&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

>Q. Which character are you hoping makes the cut?
>For the characters we’re looking forward to in the future, we obviously can’t say specific character names, but we would rather say that the characters that we’ve revealed so far are quite standard, but we can definitely tell you that the characters in the future are going to be more unique.
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>>380778741
>thinking she has any chance
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>>380775920
This is a very solid roster. I'd be more than happy if we get this. Get rid of Vegito and Bardock though.
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>Muh Caulifla
>Muh Kale

>2 months old characters
>Game's development started a year ago
>Rosters tend to be decided early in development
>Both girls haven't done anything other than going Super Saiyan and throwing ki blasts
>Already 3 Super Saiyans in the game who do that and you know we're getting even more just from the Z characters
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>>380779642
There is something about (especially OG) DB style that I really love. It has personality, it has detail and it conveys different looks and emotions so well.
>>
>>380779625
Grand Priest will probably be the final boss of the show but I can't see him being playable in any games until maybe Xenoverse 4.
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>>380779642
cooooool
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>>380779642
Fuck, I miss when Toriyama used to draw like this instead of using jagged lines all the time
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>>380779838
Game is 20% done so far, I'd say they're still in the early stages of development.
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>>380770285
The first budokai was the only dbz fighting game that had good cutscenes

Debate me. You will lose.
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>>380780010
They're probably already decided what characters are going to be in it and have a rough idea of how they'll play though.
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>>380755837
They could make her like Morrigan. Her super could involve 17 coming in and doubling up her attacks.
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>>380779883
It was colorful and exuberant.
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>When Videl gets in
>But its not her cute twin tails or Great Saiyagirl outfit
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>>380752602

are the japs playing this or streaming this anywhere? where can i watch gameplay of this or beta footage?
>>
>>380755748

Ultimate Battle 22 had 16 and 18 but no 17.

Also, lots of animation frames are straight from that game (which in turn referenced the original material); it was a shitty game but the hand-drawn sprites were out of this world.
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>>380780010
It's well known in software development that using % to show how development is complete is bogus and doesn't mean anything. Too many inconsistencies. There's a reason you only ever hear Japanese devs say their game is "'_% complete" (Not just video games but software development in general), it doesn't mean anything.
>>
I changed my mind, I like the game. However, I still don't like the MUGEN-esque look it has. For some reason it works with GG but not with this. Explanation?
>>
>>380780283
>>380780524
oh no the dummies are starting to show up
>>
>/v/ shits on the "b-but 30 fps makes it more cinematic!" excuse whenever devs use it
>but is okay with it for how choppy the animations are in this
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>>380780008
Launch when? She has so much potential as a character here. Her and bulma.
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>>380780718
Does this game run at 30fps?
>>
Man, I wish cooler could get into one of these games over freeza just once
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>>380780926
it runs at 60fps during gameplay, but the cutscenes run at 24fps, and the animations themselves, even if they run at 60fps, are animated to have less frames.
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>>380776978
>Seeing as they aren't doing stuff like assists only characters like the 3DS game
Freiza's henchman were assists in the demo
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>>380780926
60fps for everything besides cinamatic stuff ( intro, outro, super animation). Cinimatics are said to be 24fps. If you played Guilty Gear xrd, you know what i mean.
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>>380780010
there isn't enough content for them
they're going for accuracy rather than giving them some random fighting style to them
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>>380781168
>Freiza's henchman were assists in the demo
Not only weren't they, in the 3DS game you could select two assist only characters instead of another character which isn't here at all
>>
>>380753248
>>380753351
>>380753496
>>380753663
>>380753759
>>380753963
>>380754079
you genuinely are fucking autistic
kys
>>
I won't rest until the best girl is in the game.
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>>380781621
>appreciating the detail they put into the characters is now autistic
>>
>>380776428
Didn't Krillin eventually surpass Tien as the strongest human?
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>>380765925
>yamcha
>iwtb
More like locked tier
>>
>>380781456
>Not only weren't they
https://youtu.be/GJHk8XDhFkE?t=152
Sorbet was already confirmed as an assist character
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>>380752602
Reckon we might get 1 DB character and 1 GT character just due to how the game is titled + the devs being open to it according to what they said in that interview about this before, honestly. Not a GTfag but it still gets reps in the games despite being retconned out, I don't think just ruling them out as possibile adds completely is sensible.
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>>380782134
You're so fucking stupid.
>>
>>380782134
That isn't an assist, he doesn't take up any of the slots and doesn't appear. He basically just has a fireball from off screen
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>>380782461
>Gets proven wrong
>Y-y-y-y-you're stooopid

The best fucking feeling
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>>380767518
>>380767613
Since she has no ki blasts, she'd be a rushdown character on par with wolverine. Definitely would be more unique to the game than the lesbo saiyans.
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>>380782134
thats not an assist anon
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>>380765036
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>>380782553
>>380782674
>That isn't an assist
>appears on the buttom screen of Frieza's hit box to fire a projectile at Gohan

Okay
>>
>>380765036
>>380766034
It hurts
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>>380782134
It isn't really an assist, just a part of Golden Frieza's transformation, the real assists are your other 2 characters, similar to MvC 2 and 3.
>>
>>380782674
>>380782553
How the fuck is it not an assist? Its not a stage hazard because there's nothing that triggers it and in every other video shown it no automatically triggered with the stage transition
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>>380782186
People seem to like Omega Shenron.
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>>380782783
Anon if that is an assist how come he doesn't take up a character slot and no cool down is shown like every other assist in the game?

This is like saying Eliza in Skullgirls has assist from her henchmen

>>380782909
It is a move anon, a move
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>>380782186
>>380782945
Omega Shenron is in my wishlist.
>>
>>380752602

-Confirmed
-Goku
-Vegeta
-Gohan(Teen)
-Cell(Perfect)
-Frieza(Final)
-Majin Buu

-Guaranteed
-Krillin
-Android 18
-Piccolo
-Yamcha
-Tien
-Gohan(Mystic/Ultimate)
-Trunks(Adult)

Likely
-Super Buu
-Captain Ginyu
-Goten
-Trunks(child)
-Gotenks
-Vegito
-Bardock
-Broly
-Raditz
-Nappa
-Videl
-Mr. Satan
-SSJG versions of Goku and Vegeta
-Beerus

Unlikely
-Burter
-Jeice
-Recoome
-Guldo
-Zarbon
-Dodoria
-Cooler
-King Cold
-Gohan(Adult/Future)

Wishful thinking
-Roshi
-Great Saiyaman
-Gotenks(Adult)
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>>380778493
That's the philosophy that got us Mr. Buu instead of Super or Kid Buu, and thank golly gosh for that. Everyone knows Mr. Buu is the best. I really hope there are some curveballs in the roster, but since it's no doubt going to be kind of small at release, people will flip their shit at any surprise pick as "stealing" a spot.
>>
>>380782850
>>380783007
>just a part of Golden Frieza's transformation
Except its not. There's another video with Frieza's Golden transformation and Sobert doesn't appear when its done plus it makes no sense since it appears way too slowly after the transformation finishes
>>
>>380783228
It must be fun being this retarded.
>>
>>380778493
>>380783141
I really don't get people who want like a million saiyans in this game. Like what would bardock bring or Caulifla?

I hope we get some oddballs too that would greatly diversify the roster in both gameplay and characters.
>>
>>380783295
>NO U
Great argument
>>
>>380783228
>with Frieza's Golden transformation and Sobert doesn't appear
Because it is a move, he does not have to do it

It is still not an assist, it does not take a slot like the 3DS game.
>>
I tried to keep the roster relatively low since it's an ArcSys game, but it's hard to cut out certain characters without cutting out parts of the story.

>Base Game
Goku (Base/SSJ/SSG/SSB)
Piccolo
Raditz
Krillin
Kid Gohan
Tenshinan
Nappa
Vegeta (Base/SSJ/Majin/SSB)
Recoome
Ginyu
Frieza
Trunks (Sword/Armored)
16
17
18
Imperfect Cell
Perfect Cell
Teen Gohan
Dabura
Adult Gohan
Fat Buu
Super Buu (Base/Buutenks/Buuhan)
Gotenks (SSJ/SSJ3)
Vegito (SSJ/SSB)
Kid Buu
Broly
Bardock

>Super DLC
Beerus
Hit
Black
Zamasu
Fused Zamasu
Kale
Caulifla
Cabba

>GT DLC
Kid Goku
SSJ4 Goku
SSJ4 Vegeta
SSJ4 Gogeta
Baby Vegeta
Nova Shenron
Omega Shenron
Super 17
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>>380783397
Bardock is a wild fighter with cool one handed blasts and he's sexy.
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>>380753248
>>380753351
>>380753496
>>380753663
>>380753759
>>380753963
>>380754079

Nice work.
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>>380783397
>Like what would bardock bring or Caulifla?
What would fucking Tien bring? The whole point of this game is fanservice
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>>380783464
>its a move that's not automatically triggered when Frieza powers down
>>
WHENS FINAL COOLER
>>
Bulma should have Faust style item picks with capsules

>>380783530
Puppert character with Chiaotzu
>>
>>380752602
>-Another adult Goku: either Blue, Black or SSJ4

Goku Black sure, he has a ton of interesting stuff to add to his gameplay like the ki blade and scythe but would SSB Goku bring to the table.
>>
>>380783397
cauli won't be in the game
she hasn't fought anybody yet
they don't have material to design the character
>>
>>380753248
>>380753351
>>380753496
>>380753663
>>380753759
>>380753963
>>380754079
>all this tracing
Fuck toyotaro and fuck the super manga
>>
>>380783141
I think Kid Buu will probably still be in the final game, his fighting style is very different than Fat Buu's, and they are different characters as well.
>>
>>380783530
>What would a character with countless panels directly from the source material to draw from bring?
Ah man I don't know you've got me there.
>>
>>380784029
By that stupid logic Mr. Popo will be playable
>>
>>380763436
Hercule is the strongest non-ki using humanoid in the entire series. Dude can pull several semi trucks on a chain. He can't hold a candle compared to any of the main characters, but he's damn strong in his own right
>>
>People thinking there will be more than 1 of ANY character
You're forgetting that this is a 3v3 game. Having Goku assist another Goku seems pretty fucking retarded doesn't it? There's not a chance they would waste resources on a clone of any sort. Future Trunks is the only possible exception here.
>>
>>380784175
>popo
das racis
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>>380775920
>Videl
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>>380784175
You say that like it is a bad thing

but unfortunately >>380784287 prevents it
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>>380784225
>There's not a chance they would waste resources on a clone of any sort
>ASW
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>>380784309
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>>380784225
>There's not a chance they would waste resources on a clone of any sort
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>>380784573
Robo Ky is totally different though.
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>>380783530
>What would fucking Tien bring?
The dodonpa and kikoho are already unique looking and memorable enough to justify using Tien. Hell, they could go crazy and use his four arms thing from early in the series.

>>380784225
>Having Goku assist another Goku seems pretty fucking retarded doesn't it?
By that logic mirror matches wouldn't be a thing either. And it's not like things like that haven't happened before, MvC 2 had 2 Wolverines, in Capcom vs SNK 2 you could have 2 Ryu, Akuma or Rugal in the same team, etc.
>>
>>380784630
Good thing that's Robo-Ky Mk II
>>
>>380779642
Gotenks, Hit, Janemba, Broly/Kale, confirmed.
Most unique characters in terms of style so far(broly being the only grappler).
>>
>>380784175
Does Popo have a decent amount of fights to draw from?
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>>380784779
>Broly/Kale
Nop. They will put Broly.
Don't be dumb, you have made great choices until this one.
>>
>>380784692
He'd also get a "fly" special like Ironman or Doom in mvc. Since he was the first one to fly in DB.
>>
>>380783530
4 arms form, tri beams, dodonpa, multi form etc
Now yamcha on the other hand wouldn't bring anything
>>
Can we all agree that the best part of the entire series was Goku going SSJ for the first time
>>
>>380782134
It has a different portrait art than the assists, they have a triangle box with solid edges he gets tear lines. Seems like something different
>>
>>380760550
That's Ebisawa.
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>>380753248
>>380753351
>>380753496
>>380753663
>>380753759
>>380753963
>>380754079

Holy fucking shit. So this scene will be incorporated in glorious 60 FPS. I'm moist.
>>
>>380785069
No it was Goku looking for Bulma's balls, whole thing went down hill from there
>>
>>380784971
It was either or, anon. And the creator of the game(lead chick) is a fangirl for Kale and Caulifla, so it's possible. But yeah, a buff legendary SSJ with green hair is practically guaranteed to be in.
>>
>I want my team to be Nappa, Recoome, and 16
>I want to play the 8 foot tall comic relief retards who are all wide af
>Most people agree that all of them are low chance of being included

This is fucking suffering.
>>
>>380785059
This song is enough justification for Yamsha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kr7BKP5amM

But really, for now the game is seriusly lacking on some melee specials.
>>
>>380752602
>low possibility
>everyone i want

life is suffering desu
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>>380752602
Broly is almost a lock to be included in this game, DBF needs an xbox hueg character like Potemkin
>>
>>380785229
>this scene will be incorporated
Trunks doesn't have a lot of panels in the manga. His moveset will probably be anime ripped.
>>
>>380784175
That counterargument is fucking retarded. People have posted tons of images comparing physical moves in this game to those in the manga. His argument is that there is fight actual material for Tien to draw from compared to Cauli. I'm not holding my breath for a big roster but Tien actually brings something fresh to the table over Cauli, who brings nothing but the waifu factor. Fucker was brutal in DB.
>>
>>380785069
I'll have to disagree. The best part is Vegeta's Final Flash.
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I don't know if I really want her, but if ASW manages to put Bulma in, my hat off to them.
>>
>>380752602
I loved how over the top Z was
Super is pretty lame compared to it
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>>380785491
>Fucker was brutal in DB.
Yeah...in DB
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>>380785298
she's just a producer, not the project lead
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It will have a character-creator added in a DLC.
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>>380760358

I did, i pirated it tho

Shame there is no one playing online, i really liked the game
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>>380785069
its the most iconic scene
the best however is gokus and vegetas first beambattle
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>>380785661
>implying
Look at this sweet action
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>>380785865
I thought you wouldn't be able to play online if you pirate it.
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>>380785852
>fighting game
>CaC
pick one and only one
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>>380785491
>fight actual material
Manga only:
-Roshi
-Tien
-Krillin
-Nappa
-Raditz
-Ginyu
-17
-18
-Piccolo
-Super Buu
-Gotenks
-Mystic Gohan
-Kid Buu
-Vegito

Those are really the only characters with actual material that can be used in the game(enough material). I might've missed one or two.

Characters like 16, Pure Evil Buu, Satan, Videl, Goten, Trunks(loser and idiot), Bardock, etc don't have enough panels. However I do believe they will take scenes from the anime, pretty sure they already have for at least 1 move. But this is manga only that I'm talking about.
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Post your team
>F Trunks
>Cell
>Gotenks
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>>380769681
>broly was sacrificed to make this piece of garbage happen
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>>380786015
Even original DB had better action than that
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>>380786015
This is ironic, right?
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I can't believe there isn't a thriving street fighter clone, it just makes kinda sense.
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IMPORTANT QUESTION ABOUT FUTURE TRUNKS
blue or purple?
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Gotenks
Vegeta
Piccolo
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>>380786015
Super is good. It's just that you're mexican.
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>>380775920
>Vegeto
>Mystic Gohan
>No Super Buu
I don't understand the point in this. Those characters most well known fights are against Super Buu, but you're just going to leave him off the roster? You do realize team Buu is going to be a thing, right?
I also don't understand why anyone would expect Tien or Roshi in the game either.. That's like adding Nappa for some reason. Not going to happen. Videl is a wierd choice too. That, and there's not nearly enough Dragon Ball Super on this list, because they obviously are going to shill the fuck out of it.
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>>380786121
>Garbage was sacrificed to make other piece of garbage happen
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>>380786225
silver
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>>380786106
>Gogeta
>Pikkon
>Janemba
DLC Team
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>>380786121
Broly was worthless anyway.

>>380786225
Purple, you faggot. It looks better.
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>>380786145
L-lies!
>>380786197
Of course not.
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>>380782000
it fluctuates cause krillen always stops training. he was obviously stronger on namek when he got his boost. then he stopped taking it seriously after 18.
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>>380767957
>20 percent chance of my nigga bojack

cmon nips dont let me down
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>>380786279
>Broly's first movie
>worse than Super, GT, BoG, or RoF
Get the fuck out, eng-dub fag.
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>>380786225
Both thanks to alternate colors.
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>>380786463
genius.... But it's not gonna happen.
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>>380786406
his second and third movie were abominations
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>>380786254
Super Buu is pointless if Kid Buu is in it
>I also don't understand why anyone would expect Tien or Roshi in the game either
Roshi makes sense but I agree with Tien nobody really cares about him
>That, and there's not nearly enough Dragon Ball Super on this list
Good, the only post BotGs character that should get in is Beerus
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>>380786197
fucking retard.
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>>380786145
Original DB had better action than Z.
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>>380783658
it;s based off the movie, when frieza loses golden and is downed like that sorbet back stabs goku with a ring blast.
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>>380786106
>Piccolo
>Vegeta
><spoiler>Thanks</spoiler> Doc Gero
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>>380786357
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>>380786579
Nah. On average, sure, but Majin Vegeta vs Goku is unrivaled in DB. DB was great, but the choreography and presentation doesn't even match that fight.
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>>380786406
>Broly better than anything
Jajaja si mi amigo :v
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>>380786023

Well, I'm not sure but i can find the servers, i even found 3 people in one room, but they all had the CODEX name (like me)

Maybe i'm able to play online with other pirates
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>>380786406
LSS has l i t e r a l l y no action for the first 45 minutes, and the fighting it does after that have is flattened by the fact that nobody's ever actually in danger because Broly's strength is an asspull and he can't win too much because he's in an OVA. Not to mention hearing him sperg-scream KAKAROTTO gets annoying after the third time, and he does it constantly after that point. And he's beaten via bullshit one-punch from Goku in one of the biggest anticlimaxes there is, targeting an informed weak spot.

The Broly movie sucks dick.
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>>380786848
>Superfags unironically use a pedro meme
I don't know what I expected.
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>>380786782
?
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>>380786357
why dont you post black vs trunks from the first meeting.
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check this 7
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>>380786225
>>380786463
>>380786528

It probably will. They've already got Goku's manga colors as a separate skin.
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>>380787259
the yellower gi, right?
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>>380768372
You know, that's what I wanted at first, and really hoped fusions would work that way.
But then I actually thought about it, and that would pretty much mean you'd have to commit to certain pairs, like forcing Goku with Vegeta. I'm not sure how I'd feel about that.
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>>380787259
That's if he even gets untransformed and not already in SSJ form like the already confirmed characters.
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>>380786921
>Impossible! How can someone dislike muh super cool legendary OC Donut steel, must be a superfag !
Super is shit and broly is shittier
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>>380786789
>implying this has EVER been topped
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>>380752602

I desperately hope this doesn't have an shit from Super.
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ROSTER LEAKED

Goku
Vegeta
Teen Gohan
Cell
Frieza
Buu
Videl
Chichi
Bulma
Bubbles
Farmer
Nappa
Oolong
Puar
Chaouzu
TaoPaiPai
Broly
God Broly
Zeno
Zeno Future

Not sure how to feel.
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I'm really hoping they have a lot of costumes for each character. Some of y favourite character looks are sort of alternates.

Having long-hair saiyan armor Trunks is essential and I fully expect it, and they'll almost certainly have every different Vegeta jumpsuit including with tail, but I'd like normal clothing Vegeta of some kind too. And teen Gohan in Saiyan armor. Saiyaman may be playable as a character but if not then a Saiyaman adult Gohan costume would be cool.
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>>380786976
>We won't get Buu in the tournament

Shit, they could have replaced Tien or Roshi with Freeza.
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>>380787259
>They've already got Goku's manga colors as a separate skin.
source????
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>>380787349

Yes. You can see the difference at the beginning of this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kp5saiVoZc

>>380787401

Wouldn't be surprised if we only see him untransformed in his intro spot.
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>>380787518
>farmer
fuck yeah
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>>380785229
This is his winpose
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>>380787518
why is frieza wearing a purple cell suit?
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>>380786789
>but the choreography and presentation doesn't even match that fight

Majin Vegeta vs Goku was just another boring "character hits other character a long way through another mountain", "characters move too fast to see to save on animation", "characters repeat the same six frames of punching and dodging right in eachother's faces" fight.

At least pick something that has creative choreography and character interaction like Goku/Cell, Piccolo/17, Goku/Uub.
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>>380787662
>>380787712
holy shit, based
But where's the red gi with black undershit like in dragon ball?
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>>380765036
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>>380787785
you think the trunks they use willl be from z[purple] or from super[blue]
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>>380787792
thats from db fusions
thats the friezer and cell fusion
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>>380787634
lmao you will get jacket Future Trunks and you will like it
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>>380787792
It's from Dragon Ball Fusions, it had some crazy combinations, but not as much as I thought there would be.
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>>380763436
>Forgetting that Me Satan saved the entire goddamn universe
>Twice
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>>380787826
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dh54j91rxw
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Why would Mystic Gohan be an entirely different character? It's been a while since I watched the show but isn't the whole thing that he is at his most powerful without needing to go SS?
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>>380768372
Tiencha when?
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>>380787634

It's not going to happen.

The process used to create the animations is labor intensive enough that creating a new model for a character is tantamount to creating a brand new character. Not gonna happen.

With Trunks I think it's most likely that he'll appear in his Super incarnation but you never know. The armor version is probably at the bottom of the list though. He is absolutely going to have his sword.

As for Vegeta, I think it's most likely that Majin Vegeta will be a playable character. I say this because in all of the references that have been spotted in his animations so far have been drawn from the Cell and Namek arcs. It's odd that they wouldn't include anything from the Boo arc, which indicates that they're reserving that for a different version of him. Beyond that, I wouldn't count on seeing any pre-Cell versions of Vegeta.


Regarding Great Saiyaman, I think he's actually way more likely than adult Gohan. The producer has stressed that they're aiming to make characters feel unique. Adult Gohan is basically a Goku clone, while Great Saiyaman has a different style of fighting.
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>>380788185
Yes I've seen the fight before, hence my comment.
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>>380786015
>not showing the impact of the punch
fucking amateur director.
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>>380788047
i wish they announced a sequel
the gameplay was fun
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>>380783497
>cutting out parts of the story.
It probably won't do DBZ's entire story, and it might have its own story. Butoden had its own story but didn't have Nappa, Dabura, or Imperfect Cell.
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>>380752602
>Mr. Satan
>low probability

Dudes the world champ. Hes a lock. Will probably be on the front of the box.
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>>380786575
Thanks, anon.
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>>380787826
I prefer DB's fights overall but Piccolo vs 17 was fantastic, it was just two guys beating the everloving shit out of each other in mostly close quarters combat. Not much else quite like it in this series.
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>>380785414
He's also one of the most popular movie characters and gets into every DBZ game even if they don't cover his storyline at all. He's almost guaranteed.
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>>380788351
and your comment is wrong.
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>>380788490
I dunno, I think he may be too strong for these other guys. They just want to be flashy and use mirror tricks to fool people
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>>380768467
He was banned from BT3's roster because of how he outclassed everyone, I doubt he will be in here.
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>>380788337
>The process used to create the animations is labor intensive enough that creating a new model for a character is tantamount to creating a brand new character. Not gonna happen.

Yeah I guess that's unfortunate but true. If it's all being drawn for sprites rather than 3D modeled like other games you can't quite just swap another skin onto the 3D "bones" and animate from there as far as I know.

Though I dunno how they'd do Majin Vegeta since his Buu outfit is a complete clothing change.
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>>380788249

In the original manga his "mystic" form subtly altered his appearance and was permanent. I believe that has changed with Super but I haven't kept up with it.

In the Budokai games it was just his final form transformation, but in the Tenkaichi games it was made a unique character as Mystic Gohan can't transform into a SSJ or vice-versa.

In this game they would likely just make Mystic Gohan his own character and skip the ordinary adult Gohan completely. But it's even more likely IMO that they skip him entirely and use Great Saiyaman instead.
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>>380785692
Dragon Ball to DBZ is just the Dragon Ball manga. The distinction is only in the anime adaptations.
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>>380788351
Your comment literally showcases nothing from the video I posted. It's the exact opposite.
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>>380788601
Nope
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>>380788671
>Though I dunno how they'd do Majin Vegeta since his Buu outfit is a complete clothing change.

He'd be his own character with his own costume. He wouldn't be a powerup like in the Budokai games.
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I hope that best boy is there.
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>>380786357
>Oh shit my beloved sword turned to stone
>Better deflect those spits bare hands

wow
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>>380788705
>permanent
Wrong. Mystic was stated to be similar to SSJ, Gohan had to actually try to turn it on by transforming. Nothing says it is permanent in any way.
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>>380787712
>6:59
they talk about non-Z characters for a minute
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>>380785414
Broly is gonna be in as DLC I'd imagine. I think the main release will stick to some very core fighters in a tight roster but DLC is going to bring in the fan favourites from outside the core series.

I'm hyped for Broly because I love huge grapplers in fighting games and so much of Broly's physical attacks in is appearances is just manhandling people by the face or lariats. I'd love to see a grappler Broly

I'd also expect maybe Bardock as DLC since he's another fan favourite.
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>>380786082
Yeah, Trunks and Broly, are insanely popular so they'll probably be in even if their fight material is anime only. Whereas Roshi, Nappa, Raditz, Ginyu, and Vegito have a good amount to work with but aren't as likely. Though Roshi or Ginyu would be amazing to have on the roster.
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how would you feel if monster carrot
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>>380788750
Because the fight is forty episodes long and that video is one minute and thirty seconds of it. It does not invalidate the comment in any way. What's more there's nothing particularly special about a minute of that 1:31 anyway.
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>>380782945
I dislike Omega Shenron, but if we're to get 1 character from GT, I'd rather it be him over anyone else. He's unique, has great moveset potential, and is iconic. Baby Vegeta is just Vegeta with white hair and Super 17 is just 17 with Android 19s powers. GT Trunks is shit, literal shit. Pan, while being alright is kinda lame and is only liked by pedophile waifufags. GT Goku is fucking stupid and SSJ4 forms are entirely unlikely to make it in based on what they've said about clones and multiple versions of characters.

TL;DR - If we get anyone from GT it should be Omega Shenron or SSJ4 Gogeta. Anything else is either stupid or goes against what the devs have said.
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I've never watched DBZ before because my parents were nazis who didn't let me watch TV as a child. Where do I start?
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>>380788337
>Adult Gohan is basically a Goku clone
Just with different clothing, hair, fighting style, and attitude, right?
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>>380787915
Why not both palettes?
there was like 4 palettes per char. in the e3 demo.
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>>380788789
You think they're going to make an entire separate character and moveset for Majin Vegeta? I really doubt that.

>>380788923
Far as I remember his ultimate form wasn't a form, it just happened whenever he tried to go super saiyan, it replaced his super saiyan state. He still needs to power up to power up but he's always walking around as "mystic".
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>>380789116
you need to start with the first episode of dragonball to fully appreciate dbz
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>>380789116
Either watching or reading the beginning of Dragon Ball, I guess.
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>>380789116
the first episode of original Dragon Ball
>>
Defeating a sandwich only makes it tastier
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>>380789116
DB>Z>Super
Ignore GT
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>>380789108
Yeah Omega Shenron would be nice, he's a cool design and concept and everything. It'd be better than just getting another Goku.
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>>380789078
Show me a <5 minute clip of a fight in dragon ball that rivals the Goku vs Vegeta clip. In terms of art, animation, choreography, and presentation.
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Here's your female rep.
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>>380789409
I don't care about Dragon Ball I was telling you that there are much better examples of Dragon Ball Z fight choreography.
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>>380786254
The problem with Super Buu is that he absorb a lot of characters and get different outfits.
So it's actually unique in a fighting game if he can get new moves by absorbing the other characters and I really like the idea, but it would be a pain in the ass to make with the way they are doing characters. Every time they put a new character, they would have to rework all his sprites and without this feature, it's not really "Super Buu".
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>>380786357
Sheesh. This isn't animation anymore. It's just static shots of models being bobbed up and down.
This is the kind of shit Marvel cartoons currently shit out to barely cater to 6 year olds.
What the fuck happened?
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>>380785059
Yamcha has his spirit ball, his kamekameha, his cat friend. he likely gonna be a set up character after getting a hard knockdown while tien is more of a mix up character.
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>>380787915
The default will be purple. Blue was done for some weird reason to bring him in line with Bulma's anime blue, when she was purple in the manga. Only young Trunks still had purple hair. It was fucking dumb. The purple hair is what's most iconic and that's what they're gonna go with. If Bulma were to be playable, they would probably make her blue haired but we all agree she looks way better with purple.
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>>380789405
>DB>Z>Super
Funnily enough this is also the correct rankings
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>>380760358
Pick up Skullgirls to learn how to use assists, tagging for optimal health recovery and canceling supers with a teammate's super.
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>Dragon Ball Fighter Z
>Expansion will be called Super Dragon Ball Fighter Z
>It will include Beerus, Whis and SSB's for Vegeta and Goku
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>>380789236
>ultimate form
His power up unlocked his hidden potential and drew it out beyond its limits. In order to activate the "beyond its limits" part and turn into the 'Saikyou No Senshi,' Gohan needed to go Super Saiyan with a kiai.
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>>380789116
-Read or Watch DB.
-Watch Bardock Movie
-Watch DBZ, Japanese DBKay if you don't have much time so you can watch DBZ w/o filler.
-Watch the two last movies (BoG and RoF)
-Watch super from U6 vs U7 arc
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>>380786015
>daintily lands against the wall

Absolutely heart pumping
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>>380789516
Then post some. At least prove your point.
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>>380789116
You go from Dragon Ball to the end of Dragon Ball Z.
Then you stop and don't ever try GT or Super.
Try some movies if you want, some of them are okay.
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>>380780010
If 20% means the six characters we know, then 6x5=30 fighters
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>>380788185
The weirdest thing about this fight was seeing Goku run instead of the normal air dashing
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>>380789405
>>380789359
>>380789351
>>380789305
this is horrible advice, Dragon Ball is super long. He's never going to hit DBZ at that rate.

I'd say just do what most of us did and just start at the first episode of DBZ
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>>380789116
read the manga, the anime has shit pacing and bad art in comparsion
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>>380789771
I already gave you examples.
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>>380789628
Honestly all that shit is easy enough you don't need to

Plus from the footage I've seen the combos seems to be more GG than SG/Marvel.
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>>380789512
As someone who likes Xenoverse I'd be ok with this. Towa is a neat idea for a villain, just implemented poorly. She'd also be a great addition so they could easily fuck with the story and make the roster entirely out of interesting characters instead of including Raditz for the 800th time for some story status quo. I like the idea of Towa teaming up with Zamasu only to be betrayed by Merged Zamasu at the very end as a boss fight.
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>>380752602
Anyone else want Arcsys to make a game like Dragon Ball Figther Z, but with a roster of Shonen Jump characters instead? Kinda like JStar, but without the shitty combat and graphics.
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>>380789897
faggot
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>>380788923
>Gohan had to actually try to turn it on by transforming.

That's just how he activated the power-up. After that it was permanent.

>Nothing says it is permanent in any way.

Well lets see:

When he's unconscious after being rescued from Boo he's still "transformed."

When he's revived after being killed he's still "transformed."

When he's long since retired from fighting ten years later he's still "transformed."

It's not a transformation, it's a permanent power up.

>>380789137
>Just with different clothing

Irrelevant

>hair

Irrelevant

>fighting style

Not in the sense of the game

>attitude

Irrelevant

>>380789236
>You think they're going to make an entire separate character and moveset for Majin Vegeta? I really doubt that.

Just a hunch.

As it stands now, we know Vegeta doesn't have a Majin form in the demo and there is a total absence of Majin Vegeta references in his animations (whereas Goku has animations referencing poses from all of Z). There is a decent amount of footage to pull from to base a moveset on. He restraining rings thing, that two fingered attack and of course his self destruct. It's reasonable that they could pull a complete character out of him.

It would just be very weird if the game completely ignored Boo arc-era Vegeta, which is almost entirely made up of Majin Vegeta stuff, and that's what they appear to have done so far.
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>>380789116
Watch DB, then DBZ, then the DB and DBZ movies, then you're done.

Don't skip out on the movies just for canon nonsense, they movie counterparts are usually better than the canon ones anyways, they just end in worse ways.
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>>380790023
>i want quantity rather than quality
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Fuck it, if they put in adult Gohan I hope its one arm future Gohan.
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>>380790089
no u
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>>380790109
>As it stands now, we know Vegeta doesn't have a Majin form in the demo and there is a total absence of Majin Vegeta references in his animations (whereas Goku has animations referencing poses from all of Z). There is a decent amount of footage to pull from to base a moveset on. He restraining rings thing, that two fingered attack and of course his self destruct. It's reasonable that they could pull a complete character out of him.

I guess it depends on what sort of roster size they're aiming for. I can't see them using development time to add duplicates of characters if they're tight on character creation schedule already.
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>>380789963
Many of the other team mechanics are easy but assist usage can get pretty deep
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>>380790269
How you gonna post that without a source?
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>>380789928
No you fucking didn't. You're only saying that because you can't find a clip of C17 vs Piccolo, Goku vs Cell, or Goku vs Uub that looks even nearly as good as the one of Vegeta vs Goku.

go back to gamefaqs please
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>>380790269
As cool as that would be, that wouldn't be the case. If another age/form of Gohan gets in it's going to be Ultimate Gohan or Great Saiyaman. They're really the only legitimate options.
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>>380789897

You're saying he should skip the entire first third of the series which is a retarded way to watch a show. It's retarded now and it was retarded in 1996, when poor American kids didn't have a choice. You might as well recommend the fucking Ocean dub while you're at it.

There's one decent way to watch the series and that's to start at the beginning.
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>>380790163
I don't see why one would get over another in this case, is just doing a fighting game but with characters from different series instead of just only one. If anything it would add more variety to the roster.
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>>380790163
What, I've always liked the idea of the JStars games to bad they've always been shit. I'd be fine if they would just put in like 20 fan favorite Shonen characters.
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>>380790506
It takes them 2-3 months for each character right now. To expect 50+ characters is to expect nonsense. Either that or they cut down on dev time for each character and they won't look or play nearly as good as the ones we've been shown. Your dream is only a dream.
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>>380765036
Android 20 always had a really cool design. 19 too, but Dr. Gero is a more relevant character in Dragon Ball lore.
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>>380790396
>No you fucking didn't.
see >>380787826

You can easily find all of these fights on youtube. If you're asking my to spoonfeed you a link to each of them when all you have to do is type "Piccolo vs 17" into your youtube search bar then that dick you're riding must have gone so deep up your ass it's in your brain.
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I'd love to have Chiaotzu as a sort of servbot tiny joke character.

Or have him with Tien.
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>>380790506
>>380790581
the problem with games like jstars is that they have huge cast
focusing on solely on the cast is a bad idea since you are neglecting the other aspects like gameplay and graphics
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>>380790701
I would fucking kill for Dr Gero. I feel like he doesn't get enough love despite being one of the largest catalysts for the series post Frieza. Also, he could be a cool defensive grappler character with his ki absorbing abilities.
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>>380790338

The popular estimate is 24.

Honestly, there aren't THAT many A-level characters in DBZ. Once you get through the four main Saiyans, Piccolo, the three humans and the three main villains there's a bit of a drop off. I think Majin Vegeta would be a more valuable use of resources than, say, Nappa or Dr Gero.

But I never said he would be on the starting roster. I just think that based on what we've seen of Vegeta so far they're leaving an obvious window open to include Majin Vegeta at some point.
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I nominate Chronoa!
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>>380790109
>When he's unconscious after being rescued from Boo he's still "transformed."
Like when Vegeta was still SSJ laying on the floor after getting rekt by Cell? Nice argument.

>When he's revived after being killed he's still "transformed."
No proof. He has 1 bang and a loose strand of hair, just like his base form and normal SSJ1 state. That hinders your argument.

>When he's long since retired from fighting ten years later he's still "transformed."
According to Super(the continued canon) this is wrong, so nice argument.

>It's not a transformation, it's a permanent power up.
>being this wrong.

>>380790109
>>Just with different clothing
>Irrelevant
>>hair
>Irrelevant
>>attitude
>Irrelevant
>character looks completely different and acts completely different
>somehow still a clone

>Not in the sense of the game
Wrong. Gohan doesn't fight like Goku. This game takes moves straight from the manga, so Gohan would be completely unique compared to Goku.


Never seen anyone this wrong before, anon.
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Super Baby Vegeta would be nice
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Please Pilaf. PLEAS
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>>380790902
>Once you get through the four main Saiyans, Piccolo, the three humans and the three main villains there's a bit of a drop off.

Nappa's and Gero are completely unique potential fighters though. I'd honestly prefer either if it meant dropping Vegeta. It's not like either of those characters don't have their own movements and techniques to build around if Gero is based on energy absorption like he has been in other games. It'd be cool if Majin Vegeta was a fighter because bad manners Vegeta is cool and Atomic Blast is a cool move, but I'd easily put other even C-tier characters front of the line first.
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>>380790696
>>380790890
It doesn't really needs to have 50+ characters to represent the most popular series, but I don't know if that other anon was impliying that with the mention of J-Stars.
Of course is a dream, but it isn't an impossible either.
I guess FighterZ has made everyone want their favorite anime made into a similar looking fighting game, and I don't blame them.
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>ywn see your movefu in DBFZ

kms
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>>380785059
yamcha has the wolf move that could work like honda and baseball super powers.
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>>380790724
>You can easily find all of these fights on youtube
And none of them look nearly as good as the fight in >>380788185

You don't have a fight that looks even close to as good, so just stop posting.
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>>380790902
>4 Main Saiyans
>Piccolo
>3 Humans
>3 Main Villains
>Movie Villains
>At least 1 GT and Original Character
>Plus any other Z characters like Android 18
Majin Vegeta doesn't seem likely when you factor it like that
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>>380791406
Right all three are better choreographed.
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If Vegeta has a colour that's BADMAN, I'll be happy enough. I love me some rushdown.
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>>380785059
Yamcha is a fucking baseball legend, no one can bring that but our boy Yamcha.
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>>380768621
>>380769062
>Califlua
>Kale

If anyone from the recent DBS arc is getting in, it'll be Jiren. He's being set up as the big "rival" for Goku this season and is getting hyped up beyond belief.

I think Hit has a higher chance of getting in than any of them though.
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>>380791518
>Piccolo vs 17
>mainly uchiyama trash
>better choreographed
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
my sides, can't believe I fell for such blatantly shitty bait. my bad anon, you're a master troll, have another (you)
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>>380791185
>Like when Vegeta was still SSJ laying on the floor after getting rekt by Cell? Nice argument.

Wrong. When he gets knocked out by Cell he goes back to base form. This is how Trunks knows he's unconscious.

>No proof. He has 1 bang and a loose strand of hair, just like his base form and normal SSJ1 state. That hinders your argument.

When he's "mystic" he's drawn with different eyes. When he's revived he's drawn with the same eyes. He's still drawn with the same eyes in the final chappters.

>According to Super(the continued canon) this is wrong, so nice argument.

Which I addressed:

>I believe that has changed with Super but I haven't kept up with it.

Which you would know if you had bothered to fucking read.

>Wrong. Gohan doesn't fight like Goku. This game takes moves straight from the manga, so Gohan would be completely unique compared to Goku.

Explain it then faggot. Explain, in detail, how adult Gohan would differ from Goku. Explain to me how Gohan, who is of identical build and has the same attacks, would be unique.
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>>380791661
That's cute but it's not changing the point. Majin Vegeta vs Goku is not even top five best instances of fighter interaction in DBZ. I mean you can act like a child about it like this but it only further drags down your position by making you look like a baby who can't handle someone challenging their viewpoint.
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>>380766362
>perfect roster
>dlc
>GT shit
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>>380791518
>all three are better choreographed.
Have you even fucking seen any of those fights in the last couple of years? They look like shit, and Piccolo vs 17 isn't even drawn on model.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gTOImLRJnA
vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dh54j91rxw

It's embarrassing how bad that fight looks. I think that's where Super got its inspiration.
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>>380789972
Zamasu has no interest in her dumb makaioshin revenge squabble, they'd be villains at conflict
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>>380761554
All of them will, MCU, DC, Street Fighter and Tekken.
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>>380792054
>Have you even fucking seen any of those fights in the last couple of years
Yes, hence why I referred to them as being better choreographed than MV vs Goku.
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>>380792029
It's a 2017 competitive fighter, extra DLC characters is 100% happening whether you like it or not.
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>>380792029
This game will absolutely have DLC, anon. Every Arcsys fighter does these days.
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>>380791501

Sure he does.

>4 Main Saiyans
>Piccolo
>3 Humans
>3 Main Villains

That's 11/24

>Movie Villains

Broly will probably be the only one. 12/24

>At least 1 GT and Original Character

Up to 14/24 now.

That leaves ten slots, plenty of room for lesser characters.

And like I said, I'm not necessarily expecting Majin Vegeta to be a launch character, I just expect him to be there at some point. Otherwise we would be seeing those animations and moves integrated into regular Vegeta.
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>>380789116
On that note, if someone just wanted a "flavor" of the series, what movies/specific sections of the series would people recommend? Understandably not everyone will want to sit through the entire series when said series is this long if all they want is some familiarity with it
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>>380791954
>When he gets knocked out by Cell he goes back to base form. This is how Trunks knows he's unconscious.
Not even talking about that. I'm talking about when SSJ2 Gohan had to save Vegeta's ass from Cell's attack. Vegeta was on the floor not moving at all, just like Mystic Gohan.

>He's still drawn with the same eyes in the final chappters.
Concede.

>>I believe that has changed with Super but I haven't kept up with it.
Not even my comment.

>>380791954
>Explain it then faggot. Explain, in detail, how adult Gohan would differ from Goku. Explain to me how Gohan, who is of identical build and has the same attacks, would be unique.
Because they are two completely different characters with completely different attacks. Even at it's bare minimum, Gohan's first two kamehamehas weren't even fired like Goku ever fired his, so even copying his move it's still different. Look at the fucking manga, they don't fight the same at all. Compare SSJ3 vs Kid Buu to Mystic vs Super Buu. They aren't even remotely the same. Also the fact that in every DBZ game so far Goku and Gohan have been different in terms of animations(which they rip from the anime), that proves they would both have unique fighting sets in DBFZ.
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>>380792054
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gTOImLRJnA
Why does this look worse than Super?

>tfw you realize every fight that includes 17 is straight ass
>Super 17 and normal 17
>>
18, Bulma, Videl, fem Broly, and the other Saiyan chick are the only girls that will get into the game. And if we're being realistic: 18 is in the base game 100%, Bulma and Videl a hard maybe and the other two Saiyan chicks will be dlc.
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>>380792909
Tree of Might movie is good for that I guess
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>>380752602
-Goku-
-Mystic Gohan
-Piccolo- only the version after sync with nail and fuse with kami
-Cell
-Frieza
-Vegeta
-Future Trunks
-Roshi
-Bulma
-Chi Chi
- 18
-17
-Gynu
-Broly
-King Kai
-Jenemba
-Dende
-Tien
-Yamcha
-Krillin
-Bardok
-Super Buu

Ulockables or DLC

-Fat Buu
-Kid Buu
-Rest of Gynu
-Dadoria
-Zarbon
-King Cold
-Cooler
-Kid Gohan
-Teen Gohan
-Vigeto
-Gogeta
-Omega Shenron
-DB Super Characters ( i haven't been following the show )
-Gotenks
-Nappa
-Raditz
-16

I'd be satisfied and content with that.
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>>380792909
The Cell/Android Saga is basically a microcosm of the entire show.
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>>380792909
Fusion Reborn and Wrath of The Dragon are the best DBZ movies. Those basically encompass everything good that ever came out of Z.

Tree of Might was good fun.

The Legendary Super Saiyan is a good watch if you want to see the Z-Fighters get raped left and right by the Saiyan Hulk.
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>>380769831
>Mary Sue

I don't think you know what that means.
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>>380792960
>Not even talking about that. I'm talking about when SSJ2 Gohan had to save Vegeta's ass from Cell's attack. Vegeta was on the floor not moving at all, just like Mystic Gohan.

He wasn't knocked unconscious. Maybe in the anime, given how long they drag things out, but not in the manga.

>Because they are two completely different characters with completely different attacks.
>Gohan's first two kamehamehas weren't even fired like Goku ever fired his
>Goku and Gohan have been different in terms of animations

A clone that looks different is still a clone. They'd still play the exact same. Stock shotos with a basic ranged attack.
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>>380791954
>how adult Gohan would differ from Goku
Did you even watch the show or read the manga? First off, they aren't anything alike, and they've never fought the same. Go play Budokai 3, IW, BT3, RB2, or XV2, all games in which they are both very different. >inb4 bt3 clone character meme
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>>380765925
>Zamusa over beerus
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>>380792909

The movies are your best bet.

The Tree of Might is the only one that shows off the entire human cast (basically the B-listers of the show)

The Legendary Super Saiyan has more or less the most iconic cast. It's the only one with the four main Super Saiyans, as well as Piccolo.

Wrath of the Dragon shows off the endgame status quo well with Super Saiyan 3 Goku, Ultimate Gohan and Gotenks having fight scenes.

These three movies will give you a decently broad taste of the series, although they won't give you anything regarding the main villains of the actual series.
>>
goku
gohan
vegeta
freiza
cell
buu
krillin
piccolo
Tien
Yamcha
ginyu
F.Trunks
16
17/18
G.Saiyaman
Videl
Kid Buu
Vegitto
Gotenks
SSJ4 Gogeta
Omega Shenron
Beerus
Goku Black
Kid Goku
Arale

I'd like the game to have at least one rep from each DB series at launch
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>>380793490
>A clone that looks different is still a clone
How is he even a clone?

Actual facts from both manga and anime:
>Look different
>Sound different(yes, Nozawa voices each Son with a different pitch and demeanor)
>Wear different clothing(save for Saiyan Saga training and Buu saga)
>Fight different
>Had different martial arts teachers
>Act different
They aren't the same in the slightest. People call Bardock a Goku clone because he looks the same, Gohan doesn't even fit that description, so how is he a clone?
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>>380790269
just so you know, the reason why every future gohan always have two arms but a dead arm is censorship everywhere.
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>>380792909
If you watch Cooler's Revenge, you basically get to see what it would be like if Frieza was more mature and looked cooler.

Cooler Returns is basically the Goku/Vegeta tag team movie. It's a really good movie but with shitty key frames at times. It looks almost as off model as Super 60% of the time. But it's still a solid watch.
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>>380793882
>Gohan doesn't even fit that description, so how is he a clone?

Because his gameplay wouldn't stand apart from Goku's. They're of identical build and they have the same special moves. That's it.

Bardock would be less of a clone than Adult Gohan, because despite looking identical he has a different moveset and fights in a dramatically different style.

Appearance has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not a character is a clone. The only thing that matters is gameplay.

That's why they went with young Gohan, he's a kid so they can use that to distinguish him from Goku.
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>>380792885
11/24 +
Android 18 and characters like that
So let's say that's about 14/24
Broly will not be the only one, I fully expect Broly, Janemba, Beerus (He's technically a movie character from Z)
17/24
Plus at least 1 GT & Original character
So 19/24
5 characters for other stuff and I don't think Majin Vegeta will be in it at all, it's not a huge part of his entire character, there are some cool moves but Vegeta already has the notable ones.
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>>380794027
>censorship everywhere.
Pretty sure it's only in Asia. They have some law about missing limbs in games and shit. That's the real reason why Gohan always has two arms in games. The rated would go from T to M, which means less sales.
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>>380794326
>The rated would go from T to M, which means less sales.

I'm pretty sure if you looked at a list of the highest selling games of all time most of them would be rated M outside of Mario and Pokemon titles.
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>>380794179
>and they have the same special moves.
Gohan has the Masenko
-Goku doesn't
Gohan has the 45 degree kamehameha(in manga)
-Goku has a normal straight kamehameha
Gohan has Super dragon flight
-Goku has Dragon fist
Gohan has unique ki blast throw(>>380753496)
-Goku can have a completely different unique throw
Mystic Gohan has the entire "upside down flying burst rush combo" from the manga, and added kamehameha at the end in the Tenkaichi games.
-Goku has no such combo
Gohan still has a unique fighting style against Super Buu, that Goku doesn't.

He can easily be different, it's been done in every other game before. I seriously don't know how you don't see it.
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>>380794179
>because despite looking identical he has a different moveset and fights in a dramatically different style.
Oh right, I remember. The guy who literally had zero(0) fights in the manga has a dramatically different style than Gohan... That makes sense, because he's never had a fighting style to begin with.
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>>380794326
That's weird because Baiken has one arm and Rev 2 is still rated B in Japan.
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>>380794179
Please anon, two characters being the same fucking person with little to distinguish themselves in ability still didn't result in clones.

ArcSys could probably avoid them even if they had to work with two identical characters. Gohan doesn't even fight the same way as Goku at melee, ignoring any signature moves entirely.
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>>380792885
>Broly will not be the only one

I expect he will be. There's no reason to include other movie characters, other than Beerus. They're not particularly popular and they aren't a live property.

I'll throw this roster at you:

>Goku
>Vegeta
>Gohan
>Trunks
>Piccolo
>Kuririn
>Tenshinhan
>Yamcha
>Freeza
>Cell
>Majin Boo
>#18
>Mr Satan
>Videl
>Broly
>Omega Shenron
>Muten Roshi

That's 17/24. Seven left. And like I said, he'd probably be DLC so this is all irrelevant anyway.

>I don't think Majin Vegeta will be in it at all, it's not a huge part of his entire character, there are some cool moves but Vegeta already has the notable ones.

Majin Vegeta is Vegeta's most popular form (more popular than anything from GT, which is another dead property), and the primary form he fought with in the Boo saga, a story arc that is completely absent from Vegeta's character in this game.

If Majin Vegeta isn't going to be a character in this game, why do Vegeta's animations stop at the Cell arc?
>>
>>380795691
>There's no reason to include other movie characters, other than Beerus

Janemba has a lot of potential for playstyle variety. He has his reality warping shit with his portals to punch through or reflect attacks through, he has his cube teleports, his sword, tons of wierd projectiles, or could summon jellybeans as traps/obstacles
>>
>>380795691
>There's no reason to include other movie characters
ArcSys want unique characters for this roster. That means Janemba has a higher chance than most characters now.
>>
>>380795801
Janemba is so weird that he's right up ArcSys' alley.
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>>380795801
>In DBFZ Janemba can use his copy technique to make a clone of an enemy doing their super attack, right back at them
Holy shit, arcsys, please.
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>>380795004
>Gohan has the Masenko

Just a beam, identical to the Kamehameha.

>Gohan has the 45 degree kamehameha(in manga)

Which is used by Teen Gohan in this game.

>Gohan has Super dragon flight

That's not a move.

>-Goku has Dragon fist

Not in this game.

>Gohan has unique ki blast throw

Just an animation, not a technique.

>Mystic Gohan has the entire "upside down flying burst rush combo" from the manga, and added kamehameha at the end in the Tenkaichi games.

Reeeeeeeeeach for the stars

>He can easily be different, it's been done in every other game before.

Not to an extent that makes him worth including in a serious fighting game.

>>380795387
>That makes sense, because he's never had a fighting style to begin with.

He had an entire TV special dedicated to him kicking ass.
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>>380795691
>There's no reason to include other movie characters, other than Beerus
>expects Broly
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>>380796046
>Just a beam, identical to the Kamehameha.
So no characters are getting any beams other than kamehameha or shit like death ray and dodon beam? And I'm pretty sure it's slimmer than a kamehameha, but I could be wrong.

>>Gohan has the 45 degree kamehameha(in manga)
>Which is used by Teen Gohan in this game.
>>Gohan has Super dragon flight
>That's not a move.
>>-Goku has Dragon fist
>Not in this game.
The point is that Gohan has done it, and it's a move unique to him, like many others. How many actual techniques does each character get? Masenko(his own kamehameha variant), his uppercut from previous games(Super drag flight(done in the manga as a normal attack), and the Ki Barrier that Future Gohan used.

>Reeeeeeeeeach for the stars
>game with combo system
>XV2 and Tenkaichi games(and rb2) features Gohan with the unique upside down burst rush
>The one game where unique fighting is important isn't going to have it, no that's reaching
Anon, pls.
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>>380787785
Why does he always catch his sword with such style?
>>
Will there be beam struggles?

I dunno how they'd do them in this game's playstyle but beam struggles are DBZ
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>>380797457
No, they want to keep the battles fast.
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>>380797457
Already confirmed not in, the reason was that they would slow down too much what is otherwise a fast paced game.
>>
>>380797457
Beam struggle are too dependent on button mashing/joystick rotating for a competitive game. They also halt the speed of the match if both sides are very good at it.
>>
>>380796861
Adult Gohan(Super Saiyan) move set:

Special:

-Reverse Masenko (downwards and or reverse, air tech)
-Energy Barrier (damages and fizzes out ki blasts)
-Downwards Ki blast that Future Gohan used (knocks enemy up, or blinds them like in XV2)

Super Special:

-Mystic Install (5 meter. Damage and speed increase)
-Burst Rush
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>>380797873
>implying how fast you can mash a button or rotate a joystick can't be a test of skill
>>
>>380795691
>There's no reason to include other movie characters, other than Beerus.
Broly & Beerus are the only movie characters that are locks, but if you think Bardock isn't a legit possibility, especially over any GT character, I don't even know.
>>380795801
His weird technicolor cube teleport would look gorgeous in this game.
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>>380797529
>>380797561
>>380797873
I was thinking more based on a priority system of which move used more bar or something like that.
>>
>>380798440
>if you think Bardock isn't a legit possibility, especially over any GT character, I don't even know

I think Bardock is a definite likelihood, moreso than any GT character
>>
>>380767407
Some of this kid's moves were beyond bizarre.
>>
>>380768643
Literally the only characters I want are Gotenks and Kid Buu
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>>380798256
I agree it does take some amount of skill to pull off but lets say when both sides are about equal then it becomes a war of attrition and breaks up the fast pace combat. I might not agree with the decision but, I can respect why is its not there. That's the only one thing so far they aren't keeping that's been a series tradition.
>>380798467
We don't know really but, I expect so.
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>>380789108
Omega Shenron + Gogeta with SSJ4 Install is the best choice for GT.
I wonder if 17 fans will be ok with Super C17, he was fucking popular at the time (I don't know for the US, but in EU, he is one of the single thing that DB fans accept).
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