/NEW BLOODSTAINED: RITUAL OF THE NIGHT GAMEPLAY E3 2017/

Looks much better than it used to look. Still looks pretty ugly. Reminder that Hollow Knight had a literal hundredth of the backing funds and looks ten times better.

>>380750005
I'll take cheap looking Castlevania over no Castlevania any day.

>>380750295
>indie pixelshit
no thx

>>380752951
How is hollow knight pixelshit? Also it really is an amazing game.

Looks better than before, but I'm not a fan of the whole floaty shit. Everything just looks slow.

>>380752951
oh, so you don't know what you're talking about

>>380750005

Environments need to be fixed. They need more grit, less shine, better lighting, better textures.

Miriam needs to be faster.

>Seems like a poor man's Castlevania.

Just a budget issue. For 7 million, you can make an average looking PS2 game. For 7 million you could make the most polished 2D game ever.

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>>380750295

This vid falsely says that Iga is the driector. He's the writer/producer. Iida is the director.

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>IGA: Just copy paste stage portions and add a shitload of candles, nobody will notice

>>380753514
It is, and it's too short.

>>380750295
Hollow Knight's too minimalistic and the animations use very few key frames.

>>380754748
Still looks much better than this overly detailed but horribly looking mess

>>380754853
>compares apples to oranges
>does this literally all day every day

>>380754423

IN fact, next vid is gonna be Iida answering quetsions. Send him questions, or suggests (framed as questions) and he'll answer. Just add the following to your tweet:

@SwordOrWhip #AskCurry

>>380754975
Oranges are much better than apples
>MFW a fag tells me they can't be compared

What in the hell is Artplay?

>>380750005

I'm gonna blind run this thread and try to predict what people will pretend to be complaining about profusely for this one. Logic would dictate the character models, but I'm gonna say something like sound design and music

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>>380755104
Oranges are messy and citrus fruits suck shit in general. Apple tastes good no matter how it's prepared.

>>380754853
You are retarded

>>380750005
This is the "cgi berserk" of videogames.

All substance, but no style, clunky, horrible mess that does a massive disrespect to the source.

>>380755457
>anime
There's already a board for you, weeb.

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I like it.

Looks like NDS games in 3D.

>>380750005
Looks good. We can expect the shitposting to intensify as a result.

>>380750005
>Seems like a poor man's Castlevania.

It's literary made by the Castlevania creator.

>>380756062
this

>>380756772
>creator

The menu's font looks weird?
Also the graphics are pretty good but the game needs to be slightly darker on the edges of the screen

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>>380756772
>Castlevania creator.

>>380750005
>make a 3DS game
>release it only on big platforms
genius

It's fucking ugly and the gameplay looks like, at best, just the same as other entries in the series.

>>380757275
Isn't it on the Vita too?

>>380757560
oh snap, now I'm interested

>>380754689
Where are pixels used in hollow Knight?

>>380758085

a lot?

>>380756772
Anon.. we don't know the castlevania creators, nor do we know any members of its team.

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>>380750295
>hollow shill
fuck off

>Reminder that Hollow Knight had a literal hundredth of the backing funds
hollow knight wasn't a real kickstarter game. It was only partially funded by kickstarter but got most of it's budget independently
>and looks ten times better.
no it doesn't. It looks more polished but it's also boring as fuck and way too minimalistic. Castlevanias were fucking varied with the areas, enemy and boss designs, while HK looks extremely samey through 90% of the game for everything I've mentioned.

>>380756772

> Implying Castlevania was made by one person.

>>380750005
looks pretty good to me tbqh

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>>380753416
Miriam a qt

>>380759196
>It was only partially funded by kickstarter but got most of it's budget independently

Same with Bloodstained.

>>380758085
lol
what

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>>380759746
i want to fondle her glass boobie

>>380760002
you mean her crystal boobs
i could play with them all day long!

>>380760548
Glass, crystal... feels the same to muh dick.

>>380759792
it's not the same
HK's development didn't depend on the funding, it just used it to gather further budget for the game. BS was a typical kickstarter game that used the site to see if there is a demand for the game and except for the initial costs, it used the funding as the budget.

>>380760002
>>380760641
Are you the tile fapper??

>>380752951
Sprites > 2.5D.

Looks better in motion. Played last years E3 demo cause I backed $300.

It actually looks quite nice

Will there be a new demo to dl for backers?

>>380760956
Sprites and polys can be any size, kiddo.
They can even be =

>>380761061
>cause I backed $300.

Koji Igarashi is not going to make Miriam real and have her sit on your face. Spending more than a pre-order is foolish.

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I trust Iga in doing an amazing game.. this video hyped me more..
and when i'm looking at the stretch goals and how they ALL have been unlocked.. i'm ejaculating.
Fuck, i can't wait to see the online coop.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night?lang=fr

I hope we can play as Gebel like we could play Richter in SoTN cause he look so damn cool.

and i suppose Johanne gameplay would be like playing Plague Knight in Shovel knight because he's an alchemist!
3 playable character.. i'm sure it's going to be Gebel and Johanne. Calling it now.

>>380761245

The Samurai is the other playable character.

>>380761219
It's only foolish if the hooker takes the money and runs. Then again, you'd know that.

>>380761219

I wanted all the extras in a big box signed bruh

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>>380761208
>kiddo

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Guys, what do you think are the odds of a Gebel mode or Zangetsu mode?

I... really don't like Miriam. I want to play as someone else.

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>>380750005

without the bullshit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmWTW6UYj-E

>>380761953

Gebel looks FABULOUS.

I like Miriam and Zangatsu more.

>>380762048

And without the music. That was an early build of the demo before adding music. This is a better vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H84PU4dzIU

>>380761570
>posting a selfie on 4chan
Bold, but gauche.

>>380761953
I'd prefers Gebel/Johanne mode
also,
Isn't zangetsu a prequel character supposed to explain the 10 year before Miriam awakening? The main character of the retro style game they are making before releasing the full bloodstained?

>>380762048

When I was 6, I got Castlevania 3 for the NES. I played that allt he time. Then I got Super Castlevania 4, and I was blown away. These games were my childhood. Simon, Trevor, Sypha and Alucard were my friends that I didn't make at school. Castlevania was my secret little world, where I could escape the problems around me. Then I got Symphony of the Night, and I was blown away. My teenage years were defined by playing that game over and over again.

Thank you Koji Igarashi. Thank you for the memories.

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>>380762631

Cool story though it's difficult to relate because I wasnt born when Symphony of the Night came out. Retro gaming is cool, don't you think?

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>>380763047
>mfw there will be a time where kids will say that XBOX 360 and PS3 are retrogaming when they're not
> there will be another time where baby will say that PS4 and Xbox one is retrogaming

>>380763576
I just want to let you know that more time has passed between the release of the xbox 360 to today than the release of the famicom to the PS1.

>>380763576
It's just time, bro. Transcend it.

>>380758085
congrats this is actually the dumbest thing I've ever read in my life

>>380763576

>kids born in 2000 are applying to university

It looks like a shitty steam greenlight game made in unity, I really wanted this to be good

similar in appearance to Dracula X Chronicles

>>380764946
>similar in appearance to Dracula X Chronicles

is that good or bad?

>>380765318
Bad

>>380765514

But Dracula X Chronicles was a good game though.

>>380765616
The best part of it were the ports, not the remake. The remake part wasn't that bad but it's generally inferior to the original.

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>>380765616
I think it was more on the graphical side, with both being 3d on a 2d plane with similar aesthetics for obvious reasons and all that, though for me the comparison ends there.

No one gonna talk about how the Castle is confirmed for 1600 squares?

>>380764551
>It looks like a shitty steam greenlight game made in unity, I really wanted this to be good

You're being overly dramatic.

Next you'll say it looks like an N64 game or PS2 game, or whatever cliche is next.

>>380750005
>sets still look like dollhouses
I guess they won't be fixing this

>>380750919
Please look up the definition of "pun"

>>380768807

Please look up the definition of "neck yourself loser".

>>380769196
>I was wrong: the post

>>380750005
Damn looks way better than it did a while ago. I like.

>>380769472

Alucard was fucking slow though. Soma and Shanoa were faster.

Before the "it's too slow" argument rears its head: https://youtu.be/Kcsxz3awKIQ

>>380750005
looks better than Might Number9

>>380769472
>>380769662
I saw that, you insecure fag

I played the demo and it was fine. Some faggots are too desperate for the next le ebin tortanic

>base Shanoa's design on his own wife
>now is basiscally forbidden to make another character that looks like his wife

JUST

>>380769651
Shanoa maybe, but I remember Soma being pretty slow too. Even if he was faster it wasn't by much. CotM is the only one I remember being able to go fast once you got the dash still the best one by the way.

>>380750005
>triple swings via animation canceling by landing and backdashing is in
aww yiss

>>380769762
Congrats

>>380754689
I don't know, Hollow Knight is like 35 hours for a 100% run, that's not short for an indie game.

Shovel Knight is much, much shorter than that, before the DLCs.

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shanoa from memory I thought had the slowest lateral speed

Are they going to release this e3 demo to backer like they did last year?

>>380769662
>its too slow
>its floaty
Is it me or does this happens every time a series goes from 2D sprites to 2.5D? they could match the movement perfectly but something about the 3D will always make people perceive it as slower/floaty/whatever

>>380750005
I really can't see any legitimate reasons to complain about this game at this point

>>380770267
show me this run

>>380753416
Mitiam porn when? I wanna fuck her doggy pulling on her horns.

>>380770573
>Mitiam
Dumb phoneposter.

>>380770267
Shovel Knight is actually fun though and has unique looking areas.

>>380770527
It's pretty common knowledge the game is like 30h+ if you wanna do it all.

>>380770898
So is Hollow Knight.

>>380770267
SK is way better, less drawn out.

>>380756772
Castlevania was never created or destroyed it has always existed.

>>380770979
>can't provide source
>common knowledge excuse
I know it's hard, but you're going to have to at least try.

>>380771205
What, do you want me to play it all again and record it just to do your homework for you? How about fuck off.

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You're going to bed-BUY, yes BUY her game when it comes out, right Anon?

>>380750005
Things I liked
>Blood splatter
>Breakable walls
>NotSoulGlyph system
>It actually looks MUCH better than initially.
Music seems okay too. Nothing too special so far, though.
Designs are still subpar, but I like it.
Sold because I want more stuff like this and I'm thirsty AF for a new vania.

>>380771381
>play games? on /v/?
>perish the thought
Whatever, faggot.

>>380770979
I'll take your word for it being fun but I've yet to anything more than samey looking areas posted.

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>>380771739
you haven't seen enough if you think HK looks all alike, you have grassy areas, a crystal mine, a city with rain, a spider nest, the place with fungi and more

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>>380771556

I already did.

>>380772025
p bland looking if you ask me tbqh

>>380771581
>Music seems okay too. Nothing too special so far, though.

It's by Michiru Yamane. Thing is though, how many times can you make 10/10 scores? She did that for Symphony, and really, it's not like she can do that again. She's gonna put out her generic Castlevania-y type score out agian, like she did on the NDS games. It's gonna be good but not super memorable. I'd much prefer this over bad music any day.

This is why you don't show "in progress" work to the masses. They literally don't know shit from a candy bar.

>>380771739
I dont wanna see every level before release i want to discover them and have my dick head pop off.

>>380772497
I was talking about Hollow Knight. But apparently it's more diverse than I thought judging by >>380772025

I wish it was a bit darker with the lighting, but the demo was fine gameplay wise. Have they released any demos after the old one?

It looks alright. Maybe they need to tweak the lighting and improve the running/jumping animations. The attack animations look great though.

>>380772732
>Have they released any demos after the old one?

The E3 Demo is getting released in August. More polishing needs to be done.

>>380759192
>castlevania was created by Dracula

>>380769897
>not marrying your waifu like jack kirby

>>380750005
Is it just me, or is it moving at a ludicrously slower pace than other Castlevania games? It's borderline glacial.

>>380750005
Anyone have a link to Miriams' scream when she gets a glass shard? I need it for reasons also Im going to make it my phone alert sound.

still don't dig the visuals but gameplay looks like it controls exactly like it should especially at the end in the medusa area where there's a lot of double jumping and hitting enemies in the air, it looks like it controls really well, never had any doubt that they wouldn't nail the feel of it after playing that old demo.

>>380772285
Some of the DS games still had some hidden gems. And the 3d games had amazing music. Among my favorites.

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>it looks better than it used to

>>380754590
So, Castlevania then?

>>380773062

No one's ripped it. You'll have to do it yourself.

>>380773161
It would be cool if with every shard Miriam gets she turns darker and darker and more evil looking.

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>>380773230

I made a higher resolution comparison. The lighting is better, and they made it darker. Some model and texture differences, and better color choices.

>>380773230
Right looks better

>>380773230
yep, confirmed looks better

This game looks like it might not be a total piece of shit and may in fact be alright or even good. I hope so. I like plenty of Metroidvanias today, but it's interesting seeing more SOTN-like one with the RPG elements back.

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>>380773652
>but it's interesting seeing more SOTN-like one with the RPG elements back.

>>380773836
Am I supposed to know what this is?

>>380762631
>thank you Koji Igarashi
>he didn't had any input on those ganes

>>380750005
25 seconds into the video. Igarashi says a full sentence, and gestures to himself. And then the translator only says "thank you".

>>380774050
>he didn't had
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>380773230
>>380773396
Looks much better indeed. Still looks like shit, though.

>>380774394
He was saying that he is the only man in the room.

Is this seriously going to be a $60 game?

>>380750005
>One of my favourite things about the old game was to grind, and kill the same character over and over until he dropped an item I wanted

Holy shit I will never understand RPG faggots. So hopeless, this genre is such a fuckhole.

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It looks like shit. Floaty. Messy. Shit.

>>380774692
no idea

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the developer is the same that did some work on MN9 and is being published by the people that basically destroyed Payday 2. Why is it actually looking pretty good, and should we be worried? Did they have barely anything to actually do with MN9 and that was mostly Comcept?

>>380774715

You never do that during your first run, idiot.

>>380774441
>>380774715
>>380774749
>shit
Hi shitposters!

>>380774752
>>380774692

20 something.

>>380774835
Comcept belongs to Level-5 now. They are dead.

>>380774868
why would anybody enjoy grinding you fucking waste of life? fucking kys

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>>380774869

You honestly think it looks GOOD? It looks like a Gorgy 17 era PC game.

I'm interested in this game.. Once it releases and positive impressions follow, I'll buy it. They still have time

>>380762048
>that albus
Kek

>>380750005
Still very perfectible, but they actually put some effort in this when you compare to the first videos.

>>380775227
Hello again shitposty.
I didn't say it looks good, but your mom sure does.

>>380775227
It looks alright. Something makes it look outdated, but it at least doesn't look lazy like MN9 or something.

>>380775227
>a Gorgy 17 era PC game.
what did he mean by this?

>>380775227
>posting blurry screenshot
>acting like a haughty retard
ebin

>>380775227

Character models look GREAT! It's like a cartoony pixel art game like Shovel Knight brought to life in 3D. It's the perfect transition from 2D to 3D.

>>380775084

I don't, you penis eating granny pants. I meant you can play these games through without grinding. Wow, what a genius.

>>380775227
>Gorgy
Dumb phoneposter.

>>380775532
what does that have to do with me reflecting on what a faggot the entire rpg community is you failed cum stain? kys

>>380775694
>one guy states an unpopular opinion, likely not actually an opinion and just an interview-friendly way of phrasing "does the game have soul drops"
>entire rpg community

>>380775694
Not the other guy, but... Did an RPG rape your mother?

>>380775694

The entire rpg community doesn't do grinding, you bean sized clitoris flicking bunny dog. Just look at the Steam stats, the achievements, the hours of playtime. It's a small part of the whole player base who does that. Like 1% really. Jesus, what a pussy fart you are.

>>380775816
>one guy states a common RPG mechanic that loads of RPGfaggots do all day
>anon damage controls
KEK

>>380775817
>Did an RPG rape your mother?
of course not lol. RPG is a faggot.

>>380776065
You do realize this game isn't even an RPG, right? You realize you're screaming into a void here?

>>380776065
lol it's a game you self-hating faggot

>>380776061
Steam doesn't track grinding, you literal wankspot. Unless you count how much grinding they're doing to people's wallets.

>>380772985
That's all i wanted to know. I hope it'll get uploaded for everyone like the last one, i backed the game but not enough for the demo.

>>380776061
RPG is for homos that lack lives, fact. It's for fucking retards that don't have anybody to talk to irl so they have to 'roleplay' away their sad excuses for lives and talk to retarded pixelated characters to feel as though they have friends.

shit wouldn't be so bad if the gameplay wasn't AIDS, but it's like RPG devs know their target audience is retarded in every sense of the word, so they have to dumb down the mechanics so their retarded fanbase will be able to play their shitty ass games.

playing a video game for story is also fucking gay. I play games to PLAY games, not sift through a retarded story made for socially stunted manchildren that relate to pixelated cartoon characters. If I want a good story I'd read a book or watch a good TV show/movie. Mechanically boring games are AIDS and core rpg faggots should all kill themselves immediately.

>>380776153
so then shut the fuck up and stop crying pussy boy

>>380776325
its aids

>floaty
>slow
If your criticism includes these words, you just outed yourself as never having played a Castlevania game in your damn life. Fuck off and end yourself.

>>380776450
You're all alone here, bitch. Open you're anus.

>>380776450
>so then shut the fuck up and stop crying pussy boy
the amount of projection going on here is unreal

>>380771205
Just Google average playtime. You get a few 40+ hour outliers but 100% took me like 35 hours as well. If you go for the normal ending you could get it done in 20

>>380776526
p much this

>>380776561
>LOOK MA, I USED MY FAVOURITE 4CHAN BUZZWORDS AGAIN XD

>>380776065
I'm sure as hell doing a 100% run, including every souls and whatnot. that's the meat of those games.

>>380776526
I agree the physics and movespeed seem very similar to SotN itself and Castlevania has always been pretty slow.

>>380754315
No one does 2D games on a massive scale anymore. SNK went bankrupt because they tried and didn't sell 5 million copies of KOF 13.

HD pixels are a bitch and doesn't make financial sense

>>380776526
Seriously, did a good portion who donated never played an IGAvania game? They were always fucking floaty and it's not that big of a deal

>>380776675
>HD pixels are a bitch and doesn't make financial sense

Which is why you don't do HD pixels numbnuts.

A 3DS game in 2D would be low resolution, cheap, and already out by now. hell they'd probably be working on the sequel by now.

>>380776414
>Steam doesn't track grinding
But it does, you illiterate uterus.

>>380776450

Considering your poor grammar, you're probably reading children's picture books. How was the last Goodread winner, "Tommy Learns to Poo Poo"?

>>380776987
Making a 3DS game gets you chump change nowadays, unless you're named "Nintendo".

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>>380776820
>IGAvania game

>>380776646
You don't know what buzzwords are
You also don't seem to know what projecting is

>>380777023
Nice source, testicle.

>>380777023
considering you're a player of RPGs, you're probably a massive cocksucking homo that also watches anime lmao

>>380777130
>You also don't seem to know what projecting is
it's a 16 year old thinks projecting is a big word episode. cute :^)

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>>380776820
I find it more distressing that this is the same crowd that complains about Metroid being "too hard" or being able to figure out routes. I blame this blithering stupidity on the hand holding FPS genre

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>>380777074
Who bitch dis is?

>>380777073

>kickstart a 3DS game
>stretch goals = bigger game
>more stretch goals = more games
>5.5 million probably could have paid for a trilogy of 3DS games
>first one would have been out by now
>entire games paid for via kickstarter + whatever profits they make from additional sales
>PC ports day 1, with additional ports if there's interest
>After the 3DS/Switch trilogy move onto a fully 3D project

>>380750005
Wow it's almost like having the creator alone isn't good enough.

>>380777193
>doesn't use Steam

Good for you, inferior turbinate.

>>380777265
>a player of RPGs

At least I know how to write. Enjoy your next season of House of Cards, you seminal vesicle.

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>>380777074
"Castlevania games produced by IGA".

>>380777524
there is literally nothing wrong with that sentence you fantastic retard. kys any time lmao

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Anyone order the shirts yet? I ordered 2. One to wear, one for posterity or eventually to sell.

>>380777524
>Still no source
Inbred haggis fucker.

>>380777508
>doesn't know what games actually cost to produce
Ecks Dee, my friend.

>>380777779

Kind of ugly design. Maybe they did it to reduce costs for ink.

I'd buy one with a better design.

>>380777508
In an ideal world, sure. But we all agree you're delusional.

>>380777779
>roses and girly crap again

Can I play games as like, a guy these days.

It is funny how I used to see bloats of 2D artists and animators around 10 years ago in Deviant Art, is it that expensive to work with 2D games? They could just hand draw the cenarios and make gorgeous pixel art with the characters and put it all together. But no, lets play with 3D and make it look like shit.

>>380777907

GBA-NDS Castelvania games cost 0.5-1.0 million. That's not a lot. These games were budget titles. Re-using assets just cut costs a bit. Even when making it entirely new, it'd only be in the 1 million range.

>>380778009

The Switch is huge. The rest of them could come out for the Switch as well as 3DS. Hell, Mighty Gunvolt Burst just came out for it.

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>>380778010
>Can't rose cuz man.

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The lightning feels so flat. It's not that the models or textures are bad, but it just ends up looking unappealing. It doesn't seem hard to fix, but everyone just tells them it looks good and I'm starting to think they won't make any significant changes to it.

>>380750005
IDK /v/'s problem with this, game looks great, huge improvement over what it used to look like

>>380778183
The switch falls outside your low-res scope, tho.
Moving the goalposts doesn't win me over.

>>380777265
>enter a thread, start screaming and crying and completely derail the thread
>someone calmly posts once telling you what you're arguing about isn't relevant to the thread
>tell them to stop screaming and crying
>this somehow isn't projection

>>380778221
>Nothing will change in a game that is only 30% done

>>380778183
Source?

>>380778183
Why would Inti make a game that competes with their other Switch properties, in the very same style?

>>380750295
Hollow Knight was funded through Indie Fund and personal loans. If you spam it in one more thread you can get to know the developers' personal lives a lot better.

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>>380778307
>The switch falls outside your low-res scope, tho.

Inti-Creates just put out TWO games that fit this model of 3DS/Switch releases. Mighty Gunvolt Burst and Blaster Master Zero. Do these games look high resolution to you?

Inti-Creates own projects have made WAY more sense than the grandious "bite off more than you can chew before you're ready" projects of Inafune and Iga.

>>380778221
The game's still early in development and the animations and lighting have changed every time they've showcased the game so far
Relax, super sleuth

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Buy her game or die.

>>380778418
>Source?

I can't find it now, but Iga was bitching how Order of Ecclessia had its budget slashed to just 500,000. Since these games never sold much, they were getting their budgets slashed more and more each title.

Im $100 in for the special edition.

Should I get the artbook for another fucking $50

>>380778667
They also had a lot of copy/paste.
They can't pull that anymore since leaving Konami.

>>380777790

There's plenty of source in Steam. Imbread Hagrid humper.

>>380777771

You know it's like saying: "A shooter of guns." #justsayin #fail

>>380778831
Do it.

>>380778979
Stay perpetually BTFO then, you raucous failure of a gent.

Call if you ever need another cockpunch.

>>380750005

That's exactly what it is and more or less what it's supposed to be

Wasn't there going to be another demo?

>>380778917
>They also had a lot of copy/paste.

From Rondo, and Symphony, and Super Castlevania. They likely justified spending a bit more on rondo to create assets to be used later in other games intentionally. That's why you get well animated enemies in Rondo that show up just once for no reason.

But really, even those games weren't that expensive either. All of these old classic games on the nes, snes, etc were little affairs that cost a few hundred thousand, or a few million tops. The era of big budgets didn't show up until the 32 bit consoles and cds.

>>380752613

Fucking this

>>380778831
>Im $100 in for the special edition.
>Should I get the artbook for another fucking $50

Iga is not going to make Miriam materialize and play with your dick if you pay more.

Instead of throwing more money on their project, why not support smaller titles that need it?

Pharaoh Rebirth and Rozenkreustilette for example.

>>380779157
>BTFO

Shit. You know there's absolutely nothing I could say to sound more retarded than you just did. Yeah, I back.

>>380778649

Holy fuck my DICK

>Next Bloodstained game is a fully 3D action game co-developed by Artplay and Platinum games
>directed by Hideki Kamiya
>It'll be what the ps2 games were trying to be, but actually good.

>>380752613
tru.dat
Look, I get the "rehash, no risk, same old shit LIEK MARIO" arguments for every game on the market, yes. I agree.
But it's been so long since a Castlevania game that plays like one, so this is ironically fresh stuff.

What they need to do is make it huge. Fuckhuge. Enormous. Titanic. Whatever, just go all out on this, because I'm sure as hell we're not getting anything like this again for a very long time.

As for story, SotN was practically self-contained. Sure, it had references to Rondo of Blood and CV3, but it managed to explain it well enough for it to not matter.

>>380778558
Duh, Switch wasn't out at the time of the KS they ran.
Bad idea business-wise to promise more than you can produce.

I'm not a fan of 2.5D but it diesn't look any worse than any other 2.5D game

I am excited that we'll probably get costume options since it's 3D.

>>380779035
Thanks anon, I think I will do it next paycheck.

Anyone know if that physical swag will be released at retail anyway?

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>>380779721
I think alternate costumes were confirmed already.

>>380757410
>the gameplay looks like, at best, just the same as other entries in the series.

Perfect

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>>380780112
>Elf ears
>White hair
>Brown skin

Iga knows what's good, goddamn.

>>380766152

Holy fuck, really?

>>380778402

I bet you my left nut the final game will still look like this.

>>380780507
It just clicked.
Iga, you devious fucker.

>>380780264
Doesn't it make you laugh how they complain about this in particular? What were they even expecting?

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>>380752951
>pixelshit

>>380779707
>Duh, Switch wasn't out at the time of the KS they ran.

Which is why they aim for a series of 3DS gaems instead. Then port to the Switch now that it's out.

KISS strategy: keep it simple stupid.

>>380750005
I'm pretty happy with what they've showed so far. The demo last year played just like SOTN and this new demo shows a lot more content in terms of weapons.
I like that they're making some of the enemies a bit more aggressive too, like those spear enemies.

Not being bound to the CV IP will hopefully give them a bit more freedom in what kind of enemies/mythologies/environments they show in the game. I can forgive some roughness in the graphics if the map is huge and its decently challenging.

>>380780578

It's in the interview. He said it was aiming for 1600 squares.

Now, Symphony was 1800 squares, but that includes the inverted castle.

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>>380780578
"IGA's biggest castle" was the last promised stretch goal. I expect it to take at least twice as much as SotN in terms of length.

>>380766152
>1600 squares

does that mean it's good or bad

>>380780651
what clicked?

>>380775227

Okay but that knigt actually looks fucking great, based on this image. He's lit really well or something. I wish the whole game looked like that.

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>>380780970
It means it is going to be BIG.

>>380780970
If he does an inverted castle mode, 3200 squares.
Twice the size of SotN. Otherwise, 700 squares more than the normal castle.
>>380781120
Kuroinu.

>>380776526

This

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>>380780112
> Glass
> Top hat
> Elf ears
> White hairs
> Red head
> Plague mask
> Blond hair

Ahhh..
I agree with >>380780507
Iga is a man of culture and high taste..

BASED JAPANESE DEVS

>>380780112
oh shit i havent noticed that you can even change the skin colors

>>380781170
>>380780970
>>380766152

Super Metroid Redesign: 2849.
Symphony of the Night: 1,890 squares
Portrait of Ruin: 1,846 squares
Super Metroid: 1409 squares
Harmony of Dissonance: 1348 squares
Order of Ecclesia: 1,335 squares
Dawn of Sorrow: 1023 squares
Circle of the Moon: 980 squares
Aria of Sorrow: 928 squares

These are the map sizes for various Metroidvanias for comparison. Keep in mind this includes double areas like the Inverted Castle. Now, it's likely that Bloodstaind will feature something like this. Does that mean the final game may be 3200?

>>380780649

It's changed just in the last few months brah

I hope you follow through unlike the dicks and crows guy.

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>>380781326
Kuroinu didn't invent that combo though

>>380752613
Pretty much this. I've tried other games in the genre, but like with Metroid none of the imitators and other contenders really manage to capture the look and feel of the games that attracted me to begin with. It's been almost nine years since the last of these games came out and I need my fix.

And Mirror of Fate doesn't count, fuck that game.

Shader 3 is shit
I'm still upset I paid $60 for this.

>>380782805
>I'm still upset I paid $60 for this.

Iga is a good man with good intentions. He just wants to make games. Even if this project is flawed, it's still worth it to back him.

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>>380752613
>>380779638

It doesn't look that great but it gets the job done. But the big difference is how it it plays. When I played the demo for it handles just like most of the Metroidvanias. Time it takes to move across the screen, air control, jump canceling, backdash canceling and so on. Also the area you explored and the enemies you fought fit in just fine. Everything was meshing together.

Compare that to when I tried the demo of Might Number 9 which left me depressed and completely disinterested in playing the final game. It controlled like a very sluggish MegaMan clone with an awkward dashing mechanic that sometimes felt like it was an untested mechanic in both how you used it and how it interacted with the level design ("They want me to just spam air dash... again?") . The very cheap appearance was just icing on the cake there.

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>>380782963

>>380781659
Super Metroid is inflated with empty space and long corridors though.

>>380782930
This. Didn't he put all of his savings into the campaign ad alone?

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It looks sorta bad because its low budget, and because no one in Japan knwos how to use Unreal engine.

read between the line with this interview and it's "we have no idea how unreal works". It explains the issues MN9 had too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m20wmdMC6ck

I don't have anything against 2.5D or using 3D models on a 2D plane of gameplay. It all boils down to how you do it, some styles work and some don't. Cave Story 3D is a clear example of how not to do it, because it looked terrible. The blocky platforms thing is not a good thing.

>>380780112
>glasses
Is this game available for pre-order yet?

>>380783385
Now that would be retarded. No, seriously.
Did he really?

>>380783609
And yet several japanese devs are making the shift to Unreal anyway.

>>380783609
Thats not really an excuse with all the documentation and tutorials something like unreal has.

>>380783324
Its hardly an objective measure of quality, each square might be used differently and as you said a game could just have long corridors
I'm sure if PoR and OoE had just one interconnected map they would've been closer to the sorrow games in size, OoE isn't even that much bigger yet most of the areas before the castle boil down to fancy corridors. HoD's map is also probably cheating when each castle shares parts of the layout, and so on.

>>380783609
Mighty No. 9's biggest issue was that the staff involved in the actual development and mechanic design process had very little experience with a traditional jump n shoot and kept tweaking the formula in ways that just didn't fucking work. It showed in everything from the weaoon switching to the stage design.

Bloodstained may not look pretty but going by the gameplay and demos released so far it's avoiding that same pitfall entirely.

>>380783836
I don't think it was all of his saving, but he put a lot of money in that kickstarter video because, to him, it was his last chance to make a game like he wanted to make. And the guy has a family he has to provide for too.
Fortunately it was money well spend since it turned out to be one of the most succesful kickstarters ever and the kickstarter video itself kicked fucking ass too.

>>380784074
>Thats not really an excuse with all the documentation and tutorials something like unreal has.
Are they in Japanese?

>>380784074
>Thats not really an excuse with all the documentation and tutorials something like unreal has.

...are they in Japanese? Even if they are, they have to then split their dev time learning how to use the engine instead of working on the game.

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>>380783609
>and because no one in Japan knwos how to use Unreal engine

>>380784281
>Bloodstained may not look pretty but going by the gameplay and demos released so far it's avoiding that same pitfall entirely.

Because the idea is to make the NDS games but in 3D. It changes very little. It's a kiss mindset. MN9 tried some bullshit shooting and dash nonsense.

Why does it look so weird to me? I can't put my finger on why it looks so stilted.

>>380784525

I didn't man literally everyone. Of course there's some devs using it. But generally those are the exceptions.

Supposedly when Inafune brought up Unreal Engine, Inti-Creates responded with "what's that?".

>>380784176
It's not a complain. Super Metroid *needs* that space in order to make use of the abilities Samus has. You need that space to limit the player and allow paced progression.

>>380784321
>And the guy has a family he has to provide for too.
So what's next for him? This looks like it's gonna be good, but then what? If he wanted to return with an Igavania, he's not gonna stay with another one.
He better find a way to make more cash in that case.

>>380784638

>Shiny objects
>simple textures
>clean looking
>flat worlds

It has a plastic/shiny look to it.

Doesn't look good, at all

>>380784695
Yea I agree, each game uses their space differently

Reminder that Iga's original plan was for a 360/PS3 3D action game starring Alucard. Konami cancelled the project, and cut his budget over and over again until all he could release was HD. Which was "re-used assets: The Game".

I can feel myself getting older as that crippled girl slowly waddles across the screen.

>>380782963
Agreed. The Bloodstained demo last year made me feel pretty stoked to start exploring and see those inventory boxes fill up with the crazy items and shit that they're making. Controlling Miriam felt much more familiar than controlling Beck,

Iga's obviously cared a lot about recreating that same old feel, and that's trickier to do in a new engine than some people think (just look at Maverick Hunter X, or Sonic 4). That to me is the clearest sign that he won't let this game veer off track like MN9.

>>380784808
My guess will be that they see how Bloodstained will work out and go from there.

>>380775367
>i backed this and i'm terrified that maybe it wont be so great

>>380784554
That's what I'm saying. It was sold as a return of the Iga era design made by the people involved and that's what we're getting.

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>>380782594
Not even Full Metal Daemon created that. This trope is like two decades old

>>380785660
It was an example.

>>380750005
>Thoughts?
I have become leery of crowdfunded vidya ever since I backed Star Citizen. I'll do what I did with MN9; wait until it's released and ask /v/ for a second opinion before purchasing.

>>380754423
>>380754993

>no one's asking Iida any questions.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/askcurry?f=tweets&vertical=default&src=hash

Poor Iida.

Why is he called Curry the kid? Will we ever know? Does he like to eat that shit?

Graphics remind me of Trine, which I like. Spritefags will be butthurt.

>>380785743
>I have become leery of crowdfunded vidya ever since I backed Star Citizen.

People are not that discerning, and crowd funding rewards hype vs. good plans.

I hope later areas pick up, looks like they're scared to have multiple enemies on screen.

>>380785809
Why don't you ask him

>>380784808
IGA's said before if the game is a success he intends to make more. Castlevania was the guy's passion and he clearly enjoys working on games like it more than anything else.

>>380785982

I don't have a twitter.

>_>

>>380786081
>Castlevania was the guy's passion

More like his only meal ticket.

He tried directing an original title, named Elder's Gate. It was a total bomb and it looks like rubbish. Then he asked to be producer for Castlevania and they told him he had to make 1 per year.

>>380785972
You and I are in complete disagreement.

>>380786232
Clearly he found his calling there

>>380786091
Better make one then, cause I sure don't like asking on Twitter

>>380786232
>>380786440
He also continued to work on other projects after taking over the series. It wasn't til the last few years before Lords of Shadow hit when they stopped letting him pursue other things

>>380786320

MN9 and Bloodstained looked good on paper, but had poor plans. They weren't trying to scam anything, it's just that they hadn't tested their plan first before making the crowd sourcing campaign. If they had made a demo first, they likely would have made alterations to their plan. A different engine, a different graphic style, a different dev studio, something. Then the actual games would have turned out better.

Iga is trying to fix the situation by hiring extra teams, but you can tell that the development has been a bit of a mess. It doesn't mean the game is doomed, just that they were pretty inefficient with the budget.

If they don't speed this game up, the natural speed of everything, this game will get 5s and 6s across the board because it doesn't have a solid artstyle to hold it up.

It looks like shit and it looks like it will control/play like shit.

I bet the sound design and music will also be incredibly generic so they won't have that going for them either.

The only thing that can save this game is if they either, pull their thumbs out of their asses and actually do some real work, OR they slap an agenda on it because the main character is female and ride that wave on forced positive dicksucking reviews because game journalists don't have a backbone whatsoever.

>>380786783
>it looks like it will control/play like shit.
Except there's already two demos out that say otherwise.

>>380786580

Iga was moved to the "Social games" division in 2011, and Lord of Shadow was made with different people. He did act as producer for a few minor titles at the time for console games (moe gradius), but at his day job he was a failure. He tried to make "real" games, and it didn't work at all. He just wasn't trained to make those kind of mobile shit. He left in 2014 after he realized that he wasn't secured a job at Konami anymore. He realized he wasn't needed any more and left. Ben Judd was his agent and advised him to leave.

He went to various publishers who denied his request to fund a new Metroidvania style game. He then was forced to go to kickstarter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koji_Igarashi

>>380786783
t. never played a castlevania game in his life

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>>380786783
>This entire post

>>380781659
>Symphony of the Night: 1,890 squares
>counting the inverted castle trash
heh

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>>380750005
Making video games is really easy when you copy and paste the background objects thousands of times.
And Jesus, her animation is awful.

>>380789149
>And Jesus, her animation is awful.

Her animations are "video gamey". And it's great.

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>>380789401
>video gamey
Video game is not synonymous with "poorly done".

More like, Shitstained, amirite guise? haha

>>380759064
>>380759889
>>380764207
But it's not a pixelart game.

>>380786979

Oh does the demo speed the game up considerably?

>>380788405

>supercastlevania 4
>castlevania bloodlines
>rondo of blood
>sotn
>aria of sorrow
>dawn of sorrow

>>380750005
Looks bad.

>>380780112
>Glasses
Now add at least 3 types of armors and reskin the rest. It worked wonders for Diablo 2. If IGA does this it will be fucking neat.

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How come a ragtag group of tumblrettes managed to make a game that looks better than something by the creator of Castlevania?

>>380759064
>>380759889
>>380764207
Its graphics are vector, retards

>>380790352
Better application of the art style, I guess.

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>>380790352
>IGA
>Creator of Castlevania

>>380790593
Inti create sucks at 3d shit.
Only god know why they went 3D with this.

>female protag
>horns for furfags
>kikestarter

No, thanks, I don't need this garbage.

>>380790352

it doesn't

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>>380791110
>horns
>furfags

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Why these 2.5D sidescrollers always look and play so slow and clunky? ArcSys needs to go teach all these motherfuckers how to do proper 2.5D games.

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>>380790352
>>380790907
>Igarashi, the creator of Castlevania!
>Inafune, the creator of Mega Man!
>Sakamoto, the creator of Metroid!

>>380791693
>You will never play Castlevania Isuka

>>380789685
>Video game is not synonymous with "poorly done".

Please explain how these animations are worse than SotN + the GBA/NDS games. Please. I'm dying ot know.

>>380790352

I lost interest the second it was revealed that the battles are some rpg nonsense. I want to run around with a sword slashing shit while catchy or spooky music plays.

>>380750295
But is even uglier, the bugs are disgusting and all the NPC are fucking useless, it also has shit music.

>>380791110
>>horns for furfags

It's actually a circlet she's wearing. You can unequip it.

So far only her head and scarf color that can be modified and shows what's equipped. it may be the torso too, we don't know.

>>380792778
>You can unequip the uglyass circlet.
Neat. Now add something to cover up those tats and a longer gothic skirt and I will love the game forever.

>>380750005
the way she stands is pretty weird, like she is aiming a kick

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>>380750005
Is the castle on the fucking moon?

>>380750005
the reason he gave for making it 2.5d is actually pretty sensible

>>380792523
>already in the air before any animated action can happen
>animation plays out exactly the same regardless of height.
>torso and head completely still while running
>some animations just cut into others with no transition
Believe it or not, making games requires talent.

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>>380793291
The animations have changed several times since the game was first showcased. The game is still early in development and assets are nearly always placeholder while a game is being developed. In all likelihood, it'll continue to go through more iterations just like basically everything about the game's visuals have with each gameplay showcase.

I wish people on /v/ would stop parading around acting like they know the first fucking thing about game development

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Thread is hitting the bump limit soon.
Will there be a release date anytime soon?