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Here is your daily dose of trails thread

Please look forward go it.
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Estelle is stupid
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The kids in Crossbell are the cutest.

Also, does anyone else have any trouble playing slots in the casino? When i try to play them the game crashes. Everything else is working fine so far though.
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>>380749702
No she's cute
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>>380749702
SHES A DUMB BIMBO
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>>380749905
Had that exact issue, funnily enough just saving and reloading fixed it for me. In fact it also fixed the couple of other crashing issues I had later on.
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>>380749204
Why is she so violent?
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>>380750283
Her job is to beat up bad guys
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>>380750283
She's stupid so she can only only solve her problems with violence
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>>380749204
The past 3 threads have died before bump, I think that's a sign.

Anyways, Zero is pretty fun and I got into Chapter 2 so I'm looking forward to what develops.
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>>380750721
Why not solve them with sex?
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>>380750935
She's ugly unlike best girl Josette so no one would have sex with her especially not Joshua
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I just started playing the first trails game, what am I in for?
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>>380751089
3 hours of generic JRPG until the plot happens.
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>>380751089
Lots of reading
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>>380751089
A long prologue.
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>>380751089
A massively ambitious on-going 7-game (and counting) long series with a single overarching storyline that is split up between three separate self-contained story arcs.

Also lots of dialogue, hopefully you like the characters' personalities.
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Calvard when?
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>>380751623
never ever
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>>380751353
When does he become Burning Heart Man?
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>>380751837
Dunno, I'm in chapter 2 and he hasn't yet.
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>tfw playing Ao, the last kiseki game to get through
w-w-what am I gonna do once it's done?
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>>380753228
Start again!
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>>380753228
Preorder Sen 3 and shitpost on the internet until it gets released
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>>380753228
Write weekly mail to Falcom until they confirm that Juna belongs to Kurt.
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>>380749204
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>>380754710
what did he mean by this
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>>380749951
>>380750721
>>380751016
This, Estelle is stupid and doesn't deserve Joshua. Let's worship Josette instead
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>>380755689
JOSETTE
O
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E
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>>380755825
Very good very good. Josette a best, forever and always
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>>380756071
she's shit.
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Should i play evo now that it got an english patch or just go with the original?
I'm not too sure about the artstyle for the remake but i heard it got several gameplay improvements.
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>>380756329
Get off the orbal net Estelle you dumb bimbo
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>>380755689

I'm not a josette fanatic but this is a really nice artwork
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>>380756535
It's really up to you. EVO has the voice work that's honestly the main draw since I prefer the older art for a majority of the characters.
>>380755689
I'm on the Riesboat
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>>380756535
You play the PC version on steam to support further localization of the series.

getting the vita version supports nothing
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>>380756535
The art and music for the most part is butchered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0esFPASk7U
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lewd towa is best towa.
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>>380757029
literally generic anime girl #93923824893048394728934728734982374982364892375092378582309489203
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>>380756651
Akatsuki has some neat artwork in general.

>>380756657
>I'm on the Riesboat
Good taste.
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>>380757029
>you will never fill her loli pussy with your XSEED
Why even live bros?
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>>380757029
Didn't find her all that great

Plus I pair her up with Crow, even if the latter tried to kill her by bombarding Crossbell
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>>380757118
Most characters in rails follow an archetype though. That's nothing new.
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>>380757029
mmmm, reminds me of neptunia. is she into pudding and memes?
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>>380757542
Don't compare towa to the neps. Neps are cute and funny, towa is just a bland mary sue.
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Well shit.

This is the second time i'm being bailed out by a bracer, i feel like a scrub.
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>>380756760
I'm glad that not even Cold Steel messed up on the overworld themes. It was something else to hear my favorite tune from SC be the ending theme for 3rd though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqAzKJIr5aQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3igqS1Ttlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSmJUB74bdM
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I'm surprised they acknowledged that.
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>>380757793
It gets better when Lloyd meets Lloyd
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>>380757793
I thought that too, the series does a good job of addressing small points like that. Estelle has a friend named Tio, Tio is a main character in Zero, and T(e)o is Rean's not-dad
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So I have only played the first Trails in english on the PSP. I understand japs got more games though. What is the status on the series? Can it be played in english? Patches? what platforms?
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Do you like tanks in your game?
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>>380757542
I wanted to disagree but yeah, at least neps joke around and are at the least entertaining.
>>380757476
But out of everything, Towa was the archetype of the generic little miss perfect.
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>>380758004
All of sky
Zero if you're willing to use a fanpatch
All released cold steel games
PC for sky
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Trails in the Sky is the first in the series right?
I've had that for ages on steam, might be time to play it
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>>380758004
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Every single game is playable in english except Ao No Kiseki.

All three Trails in the Sky games have official english releases on steam/GOG

Both current Trails of Cold Steel games have official english releases on Vita/PS3, with PC ports already announced as being worked on.

Trails to Zero has a fan translation patch, and Ao no kiseki has a spreadsheet translation of the main story going around, but no patch currently
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>>380758138
yes
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>>380758138
yeah Trails in the Sky begins the series.
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>>380758226
>>380758242
thanks m8s
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>>380749204
Sorry doc, but I don't think that's my medication
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>>380758138
Yes, trails in the sky should be played first.
FC
SC
3rd

Look on gog, it is cheaper there atm.
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>>380758308
Steam effectively gives a rebate if you sell your trading cards.
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>>380758174
>>380758126
Lovely, so basically there's a ton of cool jRPGs for the PC in this series a non-japanese speaker can dig into.
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>>380758382
Yup
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>>380758374
Whatever. If i can choose, i pick gog.
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>>380758174
>Ao no kiseki has a spreadsheet translation of the main story going around, but no patch currently

So does that mean it wouldn't be too hard for someone to make the patch so we may see one similar to Zero in maybe another year or so?
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>>380757382
Honestly, that would have made an interesting dynamic in their relationship, especially since so many of Rean's discussions with her in CS2 is how he would bring Crow back for her and the other seniors.

But this is CS we're talking about, so girls aren't allowed in relationships unless it's with Rean.
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Finished tits 3rd yesterday, I know I'm late to the party.

What did you guys think of it compared to FC and SC?
I was kinda sad there was less comfy towns and random NPC dialogues. I also missed the fun sidequests, the doors just didn't cut it even though some of them were really good.
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>>380757029
I keep forgetting Towa's romance option even exists. She's always at the back of mind.
>>380758382
And all of them are pretty hefty in playtimes and nearly overflowing with story.
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share Towa pictures
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>>380758581
>What did you guys think of it compared to FC and SC?
combat seemed more enjoyable for some reason but the story didn't pack the same punch
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>>380758581
Its both my goty and my biggest disappointment of the year.
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>>380758581
It felt like collecting pokemons.

Still cool. I cried like a bitch when kevin and renne past revealed anyway.
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>>380758581
FC and SC had me retreading Liberl effectively 3 times so I was happy that I didn't need to do it again. I found 3rd to be my absolute favorite in the series so far, but I'm also in the middle of Zero. Some doors weren't the most interesting but the ones that were great were fantastic.
>>380758760
>Still felt nothing towards Renne
>Felt massively for Kevin
I think tragic lolis are something I'm too used to now.
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If CS3 makes a single loli suffer I'll raid Falcom
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>>380758760
Is that the "edgy tortured past" team?
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>>380758897
>used to tragic lolis
How much hentai per second do you consume?
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>>380759090
Probably around 7
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>>380759078
On that pic only 50% is edgy tortued past.
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>>380758564
>But this is CS we're talking about, so girls aren't allowed in relationships unless it's with Rean.
>Only the lesbian chicks are safe from Rean
It's a dayum shame
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>>380759172
That is a lot of hentai
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>>380759231
At least 75 if you include Colonel "don't call me colonel" Richard
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>>380759090
I think I just see it too often in shitty LNs, and it's rarely ever done decently. Kevin on the other hand tackles an even more excessively played trope of having his dark inner power but the writing is good enough to have that as an actual boon to his character.
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>>380759078
>no Joshua
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>>380759368
Its about average tbqh
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>>380759368
Estelle's mom is pretty cute.
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>>380759382
Colonel was just a fool who wanted to save his country from himself and failed hard.
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>>380759489
Still not as cute as JOSETTE
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>>380759543
He'll have you know that he's an irredeemable monster who did the most terrible things possible.
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>>380759489
She's a cute Grandmaster
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>>380759560
>josette
The most useless basic bitch.
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>>380759543
How does Kevin know what pedophile is?
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>>380759708
ESTELLE GET OUT
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>>380759743
He was raised with the fantasy catholic church
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>>380759708
>Josette was the only one to go alone in the goodbye scene
Truly the most insignificant character.
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>>380759708
>>380759756
You don't need to be Estelle to know that
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>>380758525
Depends. The text in the game is separated by region, and not story progression, so it'd still be fairly annoying.
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>>380759743
Basically the whole trilogy is about pedos abusing the best girl and saving her later. All other subplots are there to make game children friendly.
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>>380759382
>throughout the game
"Why does everyone keep calling me Colonel?"
>right at the end
"I don't think I mind if you all call me Colonel."

Richard is an alright guy.
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>>380758758
Explain.
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>when Silver Will starts playing
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>>380759818
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>>380759993
I really wish it was more like the other 2 games and when I think of what it could of been I feel disappointed but I still really enjoyed it.
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Fucking BURN
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L A U R A
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>>380759917
I wonder if Richard will retain his ridiculously low delays if he ever appears as a playable character again.
>>380760047
Ideally, she would have said yes. And she eventually does
>>380760006
Despite Blue Destination playing itself consecutively a bit too much, I still love it as much as I love Silver Will.
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>>380760106
Hmmm
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The game even contains images of /r9k/ board.
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>>380759891
I'd like to see what you'd say about crossbell then
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>>380760106
I assume that's the part where he threatens the guy by saying "didn't you visit a place called, "paradise" or something? I'm sure the press would be quite up for a story based on that.
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>>380760286
I wont play the next game until the whole series gets translated to english.

I cant imagine what anons felt when they finished fc and waied years for sc.
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>>380760323
yeah it was the paradise thing
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>>380758581
I approached it as a post-game fan service dungeon and as such it was very enjoyable. It probably helps that I love all the characters so everyone getting their moment to shine was fun. All in all it was a nice send-off to the Sky cast.

>>380759818
>get rewarded for never bringing her along
Falcom knew exactly what they were doing.
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>>380760106
Posters here can actually read moon runes?
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So Zero takes place 3 months after the end of the 3rd?
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>>380759841
>tfw finally see this emote in one of the last fights
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>>380760635
Possibly, but not me. I'm just using the spreadsheet.
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This guy was basically stupid and lost fight on purpouse.
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Dont look at this picture unless you already played SC.
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Illya is a slob! A SLOB!
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>Black Records mention a Palatinate Knight
>Palatinate is a color of purple
>7 Divine Knights possibly correspond with sepith colors
>The only purple colored quartz is Lost Arts
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LET IT DIE!
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>>380760006
Asuka go loose an eye or something you dumb bitch
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>>380761345
Since when sleeping is considered as being slob?
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>>380761340
too lewd for a blue board
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>>380761507
Just die already!
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>>380761507
NO!

>>380761597
>Sleeping in your fancy clothes
Also she is sleeping on top of other random clothes.
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>yfw Zero literally sums up modern politics
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Somehow, White and Black makes everyone look even better.
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That brief hesitation was all it took to spawn great evil.

It crawled through the fields, ran through hills and spread disaster in the skies above.

>i am out of screens. Mission accomplished.
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HE has arrived
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>>380762572
Unpunished Kevin, a man deprived of his salt
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>>380762004
So how do you play zero? Emulator? Torrent? And fan made english patch?

>>380762572
Lol he look even more douche in zero.

>do you anons also play pic related? New dlc in 4 days.
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>>380761529
delete this RIGHT NOW
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>>380762850
Emulator with a patched ISO
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>>380761529
rude tee be haitch
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>>380762004
She looks really unattractive compared to sky there
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>>380762850
>>380762850
>Emulator with a patched ISO
Yeah same here.

>>380763123
She looks less asian than Sky somehow.
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>>380762850
PSP emulator and a patched version of the ISO.

I don't think I've seen any links floating around for it in a few days though
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>>380763123
>>380763232
I like her more than sky's portrait desu
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>>380763276
Think this might be it, I got mine from a mediafire link

https://mega.nz/#!LM4Hxb5J!0LrSUQF0yPjveDVPLSSn3Xq1i_tSwvqXHIU9Rzd3fiE
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Man look at those fucking crybabies.

;_;
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>>380763518
and posting the rest of these for the hell of it.
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>>380763707
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>>380763707
Never noticed it before but is that cutie behind him mommy Vander?
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>>380763819
And nobody cares about Ash
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>>380763568
Her family situation is so sad. I know Estelle and Joshua want her to be in their family, but I do hope she eventually makes amends with the real thing.
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>>380763946
Discount Randy
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>>380763946
>>380763819
Don't trust their lies
>>380763913
Most likely
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>>380764032
Randy is his teacher so you couldn't get anymore discount.
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Where do I start with the trails series? Can someone give me the order to play the games or does it matter?
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>>380760640
Actually, i think it's around 6 months or so? Estelle and Joshua came and went from Crossbell to liberl i figure. A drama CD has them talk about Arios when they visit Zeiss.
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>>380764364
Trails first
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>>380764364
Sky FC
Sky SC
Sky The 3rd
Zero & Ao if you know moon
CS
CS2

Order of CS and Zero & Ao can be changed to some extend
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>>380749204
SpaceDrake was a mistake. He butchered Estelle in SC.
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These are frequent enough they should be on >>>/vg/, where are the mods?
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>>380764364
see pic related

this is the chronological order the games take place in
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>>380763986
I believe she wants to wait for her brother to grow up properly and happy first, so that by the time she shows herself to her parents, her involvement won't ruin he happy life he's leading.
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>>380764590
It's just constant news and people playing a game that was once thought to be never-ever being translated.

That begs the question if every new game that comes out should get a general on /vg/
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>>380764590
Once it hits /vg/ it will become unable to die naturally.
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>>380764630
Doesn't Zero happen slightly before CS1?
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>>380764590
>New news for an upcoming game
>Games that were unplayable are getting fan translations
>People are still playing the last new game that came out in english a month ago
umm no. there's nothing wrong with these threads.
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>>380764819
Around 3 months before CS i believe.
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>>380764819
Yes but it doesn't really matter
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>>380764364
I always recommend playing Trails of Cold Steel 1 and 2 before Zero and Ao. Cold Steel spoils less of Zero and Ao than Zero and Ao spoil of Cold Steel.
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>>380765080
>It was Xseed's agenda all along other than platform relevance.
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>>380765182
It's funny because that distinction is the source of so much nipfag butthurt over the Cold Steel games on this imageboard. They are STILL legitimately angry that the Cold Steel games ended up telling a different perspective of the same time period instead of advancing the overall Trails storyline as a whole.
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>>380765468
I can understand why if anything, there's so much to explain in CS3 now instead of tackling upon the topics on a gradual pace if the Erebonia arc took place after the events instead of coinciding with Zero's
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>>380766107
Well the problem is they tend to go full retard about it. Instead of just admitting that they were annoyed about Cold Steel's place in the series chronology, they decide to go full retard and claim that Cold Steel was THE WORST GAME EVER OMG IT'S SOOO BAD

it just makes them look really childish.
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>>380766785
It's the weakest, I can at least admit that.
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>>380761529
RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>TFW exploding enemies

I had completely forgotten about how annoying they were. I think the last time i fought one was on the silver road from the 3rd. The spiky shits in zero don't even move back if i hit them.
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>>380764819
Rean have an military stance here, he became like Neithardt in only one year ?
They didn't teach any of this in Thors (if they did it was nowhere to be seen because Thors felt like a normal school+ combat training).
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>>380768138
Those ones from silver road return in Zero
:^)
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>>380768336
O-oh
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>>380768186
hmm good catch. I never noticed he was standing like that. Should be interesting to see how he's changed.
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>>380768138
>tfw like to watch people play Trails for the first time on youtube
>laugh my ass off every time one of them gets killed by that monster quest that blows up when it dies and wipes out Estelle and Joshua if they're nearby
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>>380764201
Why is Tio so CUTE?
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>>380768186
Apparently he participated in the North Ambria annexation, so he might have picked it up there.
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>>380768186
He will try too hard to be the "exemplary teacher" (following Neithardt and not Sara), that's the way he is, a tryhard in everything.
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>>380769239
She's got the cuteness gene
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>>380769239
>>380769560
it's the cat ears
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>>380769328
True, they never did that during his first year at Thors.

Man, I miss my CAT and ROTC.
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>>380769905
On the other hand, the article talks about how Erebonia has become more militarized with Best Dad in charge, so Thors changing to include that sort of discipline in its curriculum is still a valid theory.

>>380769560
Explain why the white loli got that costume for DLC.
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>>380769740
I have a thing for damaged cuties who need healing.

Mind you, I mean like withdrawn and somewhat aloof girls, not completely broken psycho bitches like Renne.
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>this man will bully tita in CSIII
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Hey kids, Trails of Cold Steel 3 will be good.
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Post YFW Cold Steel 3 comes out in the west in 2018 and wins GOTY
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Wow, she's quick to jump the gun, huh?
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>>380770249
But she got healed as well
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>>380770249
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>>380770727
She's more of a brainless bimbo than Estelle
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>>380770897
Estelle isn't a brainless bimbo. Fuck off Josette
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>>380770727
>assumes tio and lloyd had a kid
>only thing she thought wass off was the kids hair color
>she saw no other problem with that
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>>380771701
She's a very understanding big sister anon.
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Just so you guys know, apparently there's some new monsters and a new area in the Geofront if you do a NG+. The area apparently requires you to also do all the other sidequests.
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>mfw just got to the mansion in chapter 1 in Zero and Renne shows up
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>>380771487
BIMBO
I
M
B
O
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>>380772397
She has a bigger part on the story in Zero than SC and The 3rd combined
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>>380761368
So who's getting Crow's Knight? I assume that it's in Osborne's custody now and he'll probably have it fixed. It would be extremely hilarious if Osborne started to use Crow's knight as his own personal mecha, or if he gives it to one of his Ironbloods.
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>>380768186
He's addressing the Prince so yeah
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I think i may like Randy more than i like Olivier by this point.
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>>380773763
Where ? it's the Bard, Olivier Lenheim.
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>>380772661
I'm hype to hear that

My only reservation about this game is playing it when being able to play Ao is nowhere in sight. I don't want to have to wait years to finish the story like I had to between FC and SC
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>>380774325
>when being able to play Ao is nowhere in sight
Well if you're really desperate you could just use the translation spreadsheet going around, and a guide for the sidequests
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>>380774095
Olivier gets in your face about his dreams, Randy is chill about it.
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>>380774547
To be fair, Olivier is Eccentric, plus weirdly passionate about lots of things, and Randy is easy going, so it makes sense.
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>>380773495
Maybe Claire?
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>That Ao opening movie
wew lad

pretty hype 2bh
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I LOVE ESTELLE!
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>>380774867
Olivier is least likeable than everyone think, he push his agenda on everyone around him,he use everyone, he's a force of good, yes, but he also do it because he want to be acknowledged by his father, he can throw children into a war no question asked if it benefit him and his name.
He was in Liberl to acquire the plan of the Arseille amongst other things and he used the Arseille to show off.
He's the same as Kevin, manipulative, he created Class VII to have an insider in every aspect of Erebonia and a few future powerhouse.
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>>380776659
So we have our own ESL now?
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>>380776659
Well duh. That's what it takes to take down enemies like Osborne and Ouroboros.
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>>380776736
Yeah I'm french, I'm learning English here and in videogame. Don't worry, I will not be a regular here.
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>>380776515
Who doesn't?
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>>380774970
Which one? The evo version of it is also excellent.
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Estelle manages to bring back Joshua.
Kevin manages to change his name from Heretic Hunter to Thousand Hand Guardian.
Lloyd manages to bring KeA back.

Meanwhile, Rean loses Crow.

What does it all mean? Will Rean join Ouroboros?
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>>380777230
He's not going to betray the classmates that are still alive.
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>>380777368
I could see him joining Ouroboros though. He might actually have the necessary DARKNESS in him to become an enforcer. It also wouldn't surprise me if Arianhod wanted to recruit Laura. Gaius is already in the church's pocket, no one would ever suspect him of that however.

Like the major issue is that we have no idea what the Phantasmal Blaze Plan is. Apparently retracing history is important for the plan's success, but since Osborne hijacked the plan, how exactly did he hijack it?
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>>380777368
He will when he goes full ALL OF ME
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>>380777736
If Class VII becomes interesting by them being fully separated and join different organizations with conflicting goals, I don't know what to think
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>>380777736
>Rean goes full ALL OF ME and becomes an enforcer
>Also masters the eight leaves, becoming one of the strongest fighters in the series
>Calvard arc ends with Rean defeating the grandmaster and becoming the series antagonist
>Final boss of Kiseki is demon eight leaves Rean
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Only good trails is the first one, the writing was weak as fuck in the second, I don't even want to try the 3rd.

Also trails of persona doesn't exist.
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>>380776515
Will there ever be another female lead?
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>>380779124
>Implying Kilika won't be the MC of Calvard
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>>380779124
Yes!
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>>380779124
Estelle: female (despite looking male)
Kevin: sissy faggot who wears a dress (female)
Lloyd: mtf tranny (technically female)
Nayuta: female

Rean: male

The better question is, will we finally get a second male protagonist?
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Why is Arianrhod so beautiful /v/?
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>>380770565
Thanks Cassius, I believe you
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>>380780280
nice headcanon faggot
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>>380777736
He will join because the grandmaster already trained him to be an Enforcer. It's why Towa had him running around doing errands in CS1.
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>>380779904
>the Calvard game is a Rocksmith Agency immigrant deportation sim
this is honestly the best-case scenario of all things that could happen, which obviously means it isn't going to

but I'll be crossing my fingers and praying to Aidios that it does anyway
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22qqs9jucn8&index=48&list=PLzFTGYa_evXjMh3jdjNmXFIgYEBAKcnK8
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>>380758581
I fucking loved The 3rd. For a supposedly optional game, it had a lot of story that is relevant in Crossbell and Coldsteel. When i started it, i was honestly a little disappointed that you couldn't run around Liberl and you were stuck in 'dungeons', but i grew to like the format because it was something different. I enjoyed the character sidestories and the story about the Salt Pale was nuts. Kevin is also a great protagonist. The music is amazing.
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NTR time.

This woman is on her honeymoon.
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Wait that girl is from an actual game?

I always thought she was a character in some H-game
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>>380783251
yeah
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>>380783015
That would be hilarious. Playing as Calvard ICE. Investigate terrorism and bust pedophile groups.
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>>380783507
With that part of Calvard being the most fleshed out, I wouldn't doubt that.
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>>380759396
>that analace
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>>380759708
Josette NO. That is a crime!
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>>380783826
>Agate goes to Calvard
>He gets arrested for being a pedophile and foreigner by Calvard ICE
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>YFW Rean headpats Daddy Osborne and brings him to tears
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>>380784632
stupid headpat meme
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>>380784632
>Implying it isn't Osbourne the one headpatting Rean, while showing that he was a hero all along.
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>>380784826
Is it ok if the japs do it?
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>>380784865
I want to see Osborne being a good father. It would be interesting to see him actually indulge Millium and Altina, acting as a father rather than their boss.
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>>380783316
Not just any character. She's the main protagonist in 2 games, and she shows up as a member of the playable roster in 2 or 3 more (not sure if she's in Ao, but she's definitely in 3rd and zero)
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>>380785245
Orbourne is gramps, aka grandfather. Rean is the one who should treat them as their father.
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>>380785139
I wont like it
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>>380783316
H-game
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I'm going to marry Hatsuu!
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Why are Falcom trailers so hype?

Sky SC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU1U7CEQBTo
Sky 3rd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB04vpGXvvw

Zero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu2Udu0aFV8
Ao OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1VUAR6kHTU
Ao PV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGXe0SIDeZY

Cold Steel PV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUZTWDk6tg8
Cold Steel II PV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLfsZ5JRZYE
Cold Steel II Demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkKo5epzMlM
Cold Steel III Teaser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJMKkFTwQCU

Never Ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVdVKOOuRec
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>>380750196
Incidentally, what version of ppsspp are you using? I'm not having as much luck as you with the slots
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Is Tio the greatest deadpan loli ever?
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Assuming xseed beings to work on the localizationf of Coldsteel 3 some time this year, do you think the SAG voice actor guild strike will affect the dub?

>in before >dub. it's satisfactory for me anyway.
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>>380786792
Not for me
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>>380786560
I'm away from my PC right now so I can't check but I'm pretty sure I downloaded it last fall and haven't updated it since then. I can post the exact version in about 8 hours either in this thread or the next one though. By the way, haven't tried it myself but I think you could also try using your save file with the japanese iso to bypass the crash and then switch back.
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So is Tio's boss avoiding giving her the staff personally because he's afraid of getting blown off by her when he does so? That's the only thing that comes to mind.
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Why do Estelle and Joshua look so weird in Zero?
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>>380789791
drugs
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>>380789791
Different artist
Estelle is still fine though
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>liking twintails

Literally shit tier taste
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>>380790387
I'll fight you
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>>380790387
I agree
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>>380783316
>implying Estelle would ever do anything impure
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>>380790387
eat shit
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I feel like if anyone else other than Randy came with Lloyd to fight that giant mosquito i'd have been totally fucked. His AT delay is a godsend.
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>>380793013
What a cute Estelle. I approve.
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>>380793712
Randy has God-tier crafts in general
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>>380793970
I feel that Elie's were most useful lategame though
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>>380749204
>Shit game thread
I'd like to add Project X-Zone 1 and 2 to the list but they aren't quite as bad as trails games
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>>380794135

t. personafag
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>>380794319
just a fag in general
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>>380793970
By the end of the game a bunch of them turn to shit though.
I feel like Cold steel's treatment of debuffs was better than the past games. Downright removing the chance of something working in pretty much all of the lategame stuff makes a lot of crafts and arts completely useless.
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>>380749204
This picture made me notice her blue shoulder pad thing is not constantly on one shoulder and now I'm annoyed.
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>>380755689
But Josette is a cuck, and I can't worship a cuck.
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>>380794996
it's not Estelle alone who suffers from mirroring
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Why are time arts always the best?
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>>380794996
Portraits from FC to Ao, just had the portrait flipped if it showed up on the left side or the right.
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Rean you really let your daughter dress like that?
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>>380759231
Poor Vash
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So is the baker's daughter just really not into losing, or does she have some unresolved feelings for Oscar? I feel like her dislike for him is not really just because her father acknowledged him more than her, right?
God i need to stop shipping NPCs, but the game keeps me reasons to.
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>>380795897
If they want to go swimming, then they can do whatever
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Goddammit, just go talk to them.
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Estelle is for ________
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pls give trails to zero translation download
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>>380794052
AT Advance will always be the strongest craft.
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Will CS3 be Gaius' time to shine?
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>>380797115
https://mega.nz/#!LM4Hxb5J!0LrSUQF0yPjveDVPLSSn3Xq1i_tSwvqXHIU9Rzd3fiE
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>>380797596
I believe
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>>380797702
I might play it after cold steel though we will see
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>>380797702
Elie is pretty
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>>380798442
Well just remember that this patch in particular is from back in 2015, which was still on testing phase, so it's rather rough, but understandable.
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>tfw still haven't even started 3rd
>tfw still bogged down in chapter 2 of CS2
>now Zero is here
do I really have to play 3rd before Zero?
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>>380799479
Not really but it will enhance some scenes related to the Liberl characters.

You do need it before Ao, though
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>>380799479
There's no reason not to play the 3rd before Zero
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>>380799479
You should play the 3rd first since it has a lot of setup for the future games
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>>380799479
It sets up stuff for Zero and other games, so yes. You get to learn a lot about the characters, and a certain one who is fairly central to zero.
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>>380777230

I think it's just balance.

Rean's by far the most powerful of the protagonists and the highest up in society, but is also miserable and never actually gets what he wants.

It will likely always be a sore spot with him that Crow died and he never got his second year with his pals.
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>>380777736
>the necessary DARKNESS in him to become an enforcer.

And help the people who hurt his adopted dad, kidnapped his sister and burned his hometown?

Why?

What reason does he have to ever join them? They aren't doing anything good for Erebonia, period.
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>>380801523
Because he's an evil demon about to lose control
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>>380801523

What reason does he have to back Osborne? Joining them would give him the allies and power he'd need to oppose him directly. And if Sharon is any indication you can pretty much do whatever you want as an Enforcer.

He tried being a 3rd side and all that got was Osborne stronger, his friend dead, and his other friends sent away, and him being trapped in Osborne's grip. All because he was too idealistic to play ball with the noble alliance for awhile, then stop Cayenne if he went too far.

He's probably regretting he didn't take that offer. If he did Crow might still be alive, and he wouldn't have taken out most of the allies that would have been useful when Osborne resurfaced.
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>>380751089
First game really takes a while to pick up. Hang in there. SC is worth it.
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>>380802097
The only people that Rean have a good cause to join with are Olivert and the Crossbellians.
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>>380802097
>The game actually goes 180 and we team up with enforcers and dubully & buddies to fight against all the "good guys"
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>>380756760
I'm kinda upset that the music from Trails didn't carry over into Crossbell. Good music is 50% of the reason why I play JRPGs.
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>>380802301

He tried that in CS2 thinking he could save everyone with the power of justice without having to dirty his hands by joining either one.

It didn't work.

If Olivert gives him the same heroic speech, while Vita gives him the same speech Cayanne did "You might not like us or find us winning ideal, but we can get you what you want" he might consider the other option.
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>>380802710
If you think that Rean is going to join Ouroboros then you're delusional.
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>>380802907

You really think Rean isn't going to learn from his past mistakes? Or that he'll risk anyone dying again?
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What if ouroboros know about his edgelord power and entice him by helping him control it and use it to jack up his power level? Could see him going for that
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What would happen if you combined "mixed" with a unhealthy dose of Gnosis?
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>>380802907
But McBurn is Rean from the future and he is a part of Ouroboros.
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>>380802907

While him giving into the edge and becoming an Enforcer is probably not going happen, he could at least call a truce for the rest of the game to focus on getting Osborne out of power and out of the country, rather than insist on staying perfectly neutral, since as pointed out, all that did was make things worse in 2.

This time he can't even count on the Imperial army's unofficial support. If he tells Osborne to piss off when he orders his son to start kicking ass for him, he'll be fighting Erebonian forces as well as Oroborous.
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While Anelace's door concludes her story of finding the reason to continue living the way of the blade well enough, I think Falcom realized they might have slipped up in not being able to develop the 8 leaves style a bit through a promising youth's eyes. Anelace herself doesn't seem to specialize in or even utilize any of the forms it teaches so they probably shifted most of the attention to Rean ontop of all the fucking issues he has in CS1-2. The little shit utilized nearly all of the known forms like Gale, Autumn Leaf Cutter, Morning Moon, Void, and unarmed. Aidios knows how much he's put into practice by CS3 too.
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>>380803086
Ouroboros' motives and actions so far in the series don't match Rean's personality in the slightest. Sharon is also highly likely to going to have to choose between her job as an enforcer or her loyalties to Reinford sooner or later and she's most likely going to pick the latter. It also doesn't help that every character who left Ouroboros so far were portrayed to be better off for doing so.

Rean might be a downer but he's not so desperate that he'd betray all of his friends. The only thing that could give them cause to side with Ouroboros would be to form a temporary truce to oust Osborne and then after that they get back to fighting each other as normal.
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>>380758581
FC > SC > 3rd
I really like the standard "hero's journey" format of FC. SC and 3rd were interesting, but particularly 3rd felt like the writers just were at a loss for what to do with the series and Falcom just said, "I don't care just pump out something." There were so many missed opportunities and even though each game is a continuation of the story it doesn't feel like SC or 3rd was really planned out the way a good novel series would be.

I also don't really like starting from level 50 or 90. I really like working my way up from level 1 each game even though it doesn't make sense.

Maybe it's because FC was my first Trails game. I still liked all three through.
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>>380756535
Where can I get the evo english patch?
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>>380803697
IIRC, 3rd was literally a fandisc. FC was my first game too and I loved 3rd the most.
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>>380803658
Everyone seems to be able to use all of the forms in Eight Leaves but people simply just have a style that they like more/specialize in. Anelace probably already has her own go to style by now considering the time gap between Sky and CS.
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>>380761340
I'm willing to give SC a pass and a better score purely for the fact that a JRPG game actually resolved a romance plot.
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>>380803658
when the fuck is their teacher going to show up, they've been teasing him for over a decade
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>>380803658
Anon, all of them can use all of the styles. They only master certain ones though. Cassius mastered Void and Helix, Arios gale. Rean has not mastered any of them.
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What. Why? This is a trails with level 15 monsters.
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>>380804487
Those are meant to be done in 2nd last chapter
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>>380804375
>>380803951
My point is that Anelace didn't really show the style off all too well in a sense. In that regard, I think some magazine stated that he prefers the 7th form the most by CS3.
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>As clouds fall, sakura blooms
>Fallen warriors gather in the evening gloom and I present to you your doom
>SAKURA MORNING MOON
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>>380804046
>YFW Yun Ka Fai is Aidios
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WHEN IS AO
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>Rean has literal ogre powers
>Uses a sword and 8L1B
>Doesn't know Luminous Ogre Slash
I guess giving him no delays would have made him too fucking broken. Imagine if he knew Luminous Divider.
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>>380803658
I hope CS3 has a Gilgamesh-like character who has mastered all the blade arts.

>I've mastered the Vander, Arseid, and Eight Leaves style. Come at me.
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>>380805473
Well, Aurelia is pretty close. It wouldn't be too hard to imagine she trains with Rean since she's his boss now.
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>>380783172
I think the 3rd was intended to be mostly fanservice, but in the process it provided a lot of neat world building and filled in some story gaps that make FC and SC feel more complete as a result.

The Salt Pale in particular was a really nice touch that explained something extremely minor (plot wise) from SC, while adding a lot to Kevin's character, the Church, and the significance of Weissman's death.

I also liked:
I like Alan Richard, so I'm glad they gave him some time.
Renne got some more development.
Tita x Agate ship plus Erica "The best MILF in Zemuria" Russell.
Schera's backstory
Kevin x Reis plus Kevin's backstory that explains his behavior in SC.
THAT. CASSIUS. FIGHT. Fuck me, so damn hype.

I wish it hadn't been set in the weird space-time distortion setting. I'm confident it was because it was graphically easy, but it would've been so much nicer if we had seen Liberl a 3rd time or if Calvard or another area had been shown.

There's also something charming about the end of JRPGs when the world you just walked through opens up and you can go back to any place you want, but I didn't really care about the world of the 3rd because it was just a maze with monsters. FC and SC did this much better.
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Where's my dual audio Xseed
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>380805449
I think that may be because Richard is leaning towards mastering the style that focuses on sword drawing, hence why he has those.
Which style is Rean most likely to master anyway? Does he a favorite one?
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Sakura morning moon vs termination slash Dawn. Which is stronger ?
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>>380805890
my fondness for estelle
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>>380805763
I am going to bully Duvalie and Satania!
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>>380805856
CS3 tidbit from a magazine says 7th form.
>>380805890
Termination Slash hits the entire field, Sakura Morning Moon was the hardest single single target S-craft in 3rd. I guess the former.
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>>380803787
Apply patch from GBAtemp

https://mega.nz/#!31YlAaYI!1j9tE8vUyF2m-coRW3u3oM5i3Bn6fij308NnO2DSQS8
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>>380805763
>Arianhod's characters
Now that threw me for a loop.
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>>380768138
The exploding enemies aren't even that bad. Most games with exploding enemies they do 50%+ of your HP in damage or even outright kill you. At least these typically do like ~10% of your HP in damage.

If you played Earthbound you know just how bad they can be.
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>>380805449
Richard added his own style to his swordplay, he use Morning Moon but is Luminous Divider from the eight leaves ?
>>380804375
The Ogre version of Rean have Arcane Gale, he share this move with Arios, I wonder why.
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>>380806372
>The Ogre version of Rean have Arcane Gale, he share this move with Arios, I wonder why.
I assume you need substantial strength to even send out the energy waves for the second part of Arcane Gale. So Arios having mastered the form can use it easily while Rean needs that boost.
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>>380805993

Yeah 7th. Void. All of Valimar's sword finishing moves are that form.
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>>380806259
Which game(s) is that though?
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>>380806723
FC, only one that's been patched.
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Tita is 16 in CS3, will she finally get Agate's jokes?
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>>380807163
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>>380806351
Thing is, i'm playing on nightmare, so it's around 30% of my health per explosion.
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why is this thead lacking best girl?
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>>380807890
Because I didn't find her all that great.
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>>380807890
She's invincible
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Hmm it seems this Ao translation spreadsheet does have sidequests after all. Can't confirm that they're all here, but the ch. 1 quests are
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That was sudden as shit. i sure didn't expect to see her so soon.
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>>380808301
So you'd basically need dual monitors to make playing through it with a spreadsheet playable right?
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Oh boy, this sound useful as fuck. It's like Tita's craft.
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>>380808715
Nah. I just have the emulator and spreadsheet take up half the screen each horizontally. The translated lines are basically at eye level as I'm playing.
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>>380808786

Yeah it's great for regular battles, you can blind every nigga on the field, and god help them if it's a critical or death infused bomb.

Randy is the shit. Nigga, who needs tonfas when you have explosives and a boom stick?
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>>380808461
I coomed when I first saw that scene
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>>380808930

How do you handle playing with them? When it comes to menus and shit, you've got that kinda writing down in your head?
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>>380809117
Well if you're familiar with trails then it's not all that hard. It might take a little bit to get crafts and arts down but it hasn't really been an issue.
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/r/ estelle hitting her head on the bedside
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>>380809479
We don't talk about that here
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So the leaked patch of Zero was actually made a few years ago but was never released? Does that mean there's probably a patch of the Ao translation out there?
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>>380809589
Highly doubtful imo

I don't think Ao ever got that far. The spreadsheet was made by someone else
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So how faithfull is the dragon slayer OVA to the early legend of heroes games?
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>>380807890
She's shit and carried by her OP weapon.
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>>380809659
>I don't think Ao ever got that far
Was the translation project for it cancelled or something?
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>>380809589
The Zero patch was adopted on 50% desperation and 50% willingness to sit through the awkward english as long as it was translated.

Somehow, a divine power willed that the guy who translated Ao made contact with another fan of the series to share the spreadsheet instead of just keeping it in the dark just for his gf. It was a momentous week.
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>Falcom Gakuen season 2 ends on a cliffhanger
SEASON 3 WHEN
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>>380809984
It's up in the air whether they continue it or not. The team working on zero had a meltdown when the patch leaked
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>>380809990
Maybe when CS3 drops, and with 50% more dead Crow jokes.
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>>380809984
>>380810178
The new Geofront team working on Zero had the meltdown.
Previous team before are now working with the spreadsheet guy on Ao patch.
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>>380810178
https://geofront.esterior.net/2017/06/05/boy-isnt-being-misrepresented-great-setting-out-the-facts/

theyre working on it
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>>380810470
whats the source of this post?
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>>380810470
Good news then.

Personally I'm going to continue my spreadsheet playthrough for now since it's going pretty well. Maybe I'll play it again if the patch comes out. It does seem so far like it'll be an epic game worth playing again.
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>>380810528
>Ao soon
I wonder who Lloyd's canon girlfriend is
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What was Cold Steel's pre-release reaction? Where people hoping for Falcom to deliver something great using an overused trope or were people's worst fears realized?
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>>380810912
Aren't they pushing Rixia
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>>380805763
>McDude voices Lars
Hope we get DEEEAH in CS3
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>>380811162
I thought Sen 1 would be shit with the main party member of mostly school kids. Turns out I was right. Sen 2 feels bloated when all it resolved was the civil war while leaving Septerrion and ancient Erebonia plotline to NG+ info dump novel volumes
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>>380811283
They're just work partners!
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>>380811732
They both seem equally oblivious
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What level of court fencing lets you blindside an Anguis
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>>380811732
Lloyd did not give a good first impression in CS2.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNBt6z0q0g

So was this the only super arrange version that was better than the original?
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>>380812249

Vita had just summoned the castle, set up a barrier, fought Class 7 with Crow, and then charged up Crow to attack Vermillion Apcalypse. She wasn't exactly fresh.

Plus Rufus attacks while she's preparing to attack Cayanne and opens by killing her familiar. That was a calculated attack.
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>>380811283
>>380811732
Why is Rixia translated Rixia? Her Japanese name is Riisha (Leesha?).
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>>380812845
The super arrange for Silver Will grew on me immensely
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>>380812845
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lkaTGNE5ds

I liked this one more than the original.
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>>380812845
Okay, I have to say, the original was hype as fuck, but this pretty damn good too.
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>>380813098
Xia and sha are pronounced differently in Chinese
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>>380813098
You'll have to ask Falcom. Just like Łazy.
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>>380813194
>>380813187
>>380812845
My main problem with the new arrangements is the arranger doesn't understand that more instruments doesn't mean better. He seems to constantly throw in additional electric guitar, bass, and drum parts into tracks that were already properly scored for tone and timbre.
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>>380813098
Xia is pronounced like H'sia when read as Hanyu Pinyin.
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>>380813536
Her street clothes are too lewd
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>A fucking wolf is using Gale
Shit son
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>>380813431
>>380813536
>>380813598
I didn't realize Rixia was supposed to be read in Pinyin. It makes sense now, kinda weird though.

I guess Chinese as interpreted by the Japanese and then translated again into English is going to be fucky.
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>>380813930
Oh please, her assassin uniform is by far the lewdest outfit in the series.
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>>380811283
>>380811732
>>380813930
Those hotpants really stir up the primal urges.
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>>380814583
This is good too.
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>>380812249
He's Osbourne's best boy of course he's a badass
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>>380804031
can you define "resolved"

are we talking like Lunar 2 and Xenogears here?
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>>380811283
It's actually Elie they push. Through the Crossbell games that is. Rixia doesn't display anything for him outside of events you do with her. And Elie is the one who gets a pure vanilla moment in her final event in Ao.
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>>380814984
Better than those imo
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>>380805763
>he doesn't learn Niprunes
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>>380815061
>The morning after, Elie puts on your shirt.

I want to sexually fuck Elie!
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>>380815172
>8man and Yui
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>The drunk guy in the mining town gets a fairly good translation with no mistakes, and even nuances to his drunken state and proper punctuation

It's kind of funny how the drunk guy gets none of the awkward sounding wording.
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>>380815172
>My Trails Can't Be This Cute
Reading Japanese is fun.
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>Dogs keep using Gale infinitely and AT delaying non stop
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>>380814984
Massive spoilers: The main heroine and hero end up together. They confess, kiss, hug, hold hands, visit sister's grave,
say they are going to be together forever,
and walk off into the sunset to begin their lives together. It's implied multiple times that heroine wants to fuck hero and have his kids.
So pretty fucking resolved.
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>haven't really cared about finding recipes in Zero at all
>can't get max DP on the cooking quest now
Fuck.
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>>380815946
Also they adopt a loli together
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>>380816083
>half of cassius' current family is adopted
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Did Joshua ever fuck Estelle? I never finished this game. Even though I pirated it.
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>>380757793
Wheres megaman
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>>380816169
>Cassius's family is the most powerful hit squad in all of Zemuria
Include Schera and I don't think there is anyone alive who could beat the 5 of them.
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>>380810470
Isn't the spreadsheet really barebones with just the main plot done and no NPC dialogue or menus translated? I hope they give a full translation.
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>>380816208
>Characters fucking in non-eroge games
Yeah no. From what I understand, in Japan kissing someone is basically implying you're willing to fuck them, so I guess it's implied?
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>>380816579
Spreadsheet has sidequests. Obviously no NPCs
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>Now i gotta fight 2 mafia dudes + 3 infinite AT delay dogs

Oh boy, if only that bullshit move didn't completely negate the blind i hit them with.
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>>380816648
I don't get the gripe. I beat that segment without even the slightest issue. Do you not manage your CP? Having 100+ CP on everyone going into hard battles is the easiest way to trivialize them.
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>>380816648
Two of my characters had the Blind quartz on so that one was fun. Lloyd had poison so I was able to whittle them down as they constantly missed.
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>>380815172

>Yukari Tamura

Crow has good taste even if she is a jobber
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>It's now possible for english speakers to enjoy the entire Trails series
What a time to be alive.
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>>380817067
Vita chose Crow, not the other way around. He would be the special snowflake if Rean somehow wasn't even more of one.
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Can we take a moment to appreciate how Falcom has trounced larger companies like Square Enix with better games made with 1/3rd of the budget?

FF15 took 10 years to make, probably $100 budget, and the end result was a game with anemic storyline, characters you didn't give a fuck about, and an empty world that may as well not exist.
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>>380816840
I just beat it. The dogs didn't spam the move as much this time. Also, the issue is that i'm playing on nightmare, so i gotta be way more tactical about it.
>>380816914
I had Elie heal everyone with her crat since everyone is close to together, and have Lloyd use his STR buff and maintain it at 50%.
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>>380817306
>Gaius is the only Class VII not to appear more than once in that image
Anything, Falcom. Literally anything to his personality other than just muh wind. Even his devotion to the church is something restricted to bonding events.
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>>380817682
Oh wait, even Alisa and Emma managed to show up in less memorable moments.
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>>380817668
>Also, the issue is that i'm playing on nightmare, so i gotta be way more tactical about it.
Is this your 2nd playthrough? When I tried nightmare it meant the whole game was just a grind fest since you have to be 10 levels higher than you're supposed to be.
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Oh boy, things just keep building up. And i just keep getting bailed out, and this time by a wolf. Although it seemed like Randy was ready to pull off something to save our asses.
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>>380818108
I'm actually not grinding all that much. Starting from Zero and forward, hard and nightmare are properly balanced out. I was at level 17 in the fight, only a bit higher than the monsters in the area. I've been killing stuff along the way so the levels came naturally. It's actually fairly fun since i have to be strategic about the shit i do.

Also no, i am not in my second playthrough, it's my first run of Zero even. I mean, i wouldn't be bitching about the fight if i already knew about it, right?
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>>380758581
3rd's between FC and SC if I had to pick a favorite. It's essentially the most loaded, unique fan-disc game in this genre I can think of, though Grandia: Digital Museum's another take on this structure and reuse of assets justified in the game world fairly well. Really great moments all around, enough to make up for some meh dungeon-crawling (like the added parts in Leiston Fortress).

>>380805667
>FC and SC did this much better
The former, yeah, but SC ends quick after the final boss before everyone departs the Arseille. In 3rd's case, Phantasma isn't supposed to be as memorable as the character interactions within in, though I really like the Garden as far as hubs are concerned.

>>380803697
Falcom's lack of employees vs. their game lengths, + tiny operating income, limited what they could do last decade, vs. a writer and editor(s) who can take way more time planning while keeping quality up. Given how short on budget and time 3rd was (because Falcom had 4/5 other games in the pipeline for the next few years after SC), they pulled off really good Moon/Star Doors, party banter, and odd boss fights to round out the Liberl arc. I can't get mad about missed opportunities since Crossbell built what Liberl started.

As for SC, it suffers from an obvious progression formula until Chapter 5 (and Chapter 3 deviates somewhat), plus how new areas are short and not too interesting until Grancel. But it feels like a well-planned sequel in most ways, reaching higher highs than FC while making the most of familiar NPCs and places. I think all three games are close in ranking, and FC tops quite a few lists I've seen.

>>380803693
Rean leaving Ouroboros alone would mean, though, that he'd ignore their attempts to claim Sept-Terrions in Erebonia, which I assume is part of Phantasmal Blaze. This could be a simple way for Falcom to advance the overarching treasure hunt using new and returning characters from old Class VII and previous games.
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>>380815946
Upset their beds aren't pushed together.
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i wish they'd bring back whoever did the art of the crossbell game, it's the perfect compromise between having charm like the sora games' art and looking polished like coldsteel's
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>>380818568
Joshua and Kevin look like shit in crossbell though
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>>380749204
Is it really okay for Rean to fuck Altina?
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>>380818551
Estelle is still probably kind of a prude, so it makes sense.
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>>380818948
She's just replacing Elise as the little sister he can be the cool older brother too.
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When will people stop bullying me about being unreliable. Even the wolf does it.

Also how is nobody questioning the fact she can understand the wolf?
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>>380818551
>>380818972
>implying Estelle doesn't attack Joshua at night because she can't hold back
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>>380818948
>Is it really okay for Rean to fuck Altina?
Yes!

What do you think she was made for?
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>>380819083
She's the one who can apparently hear the wolf from far away and can "sense" shit like that so nobody bothers asking.
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>>380802097
>What reason does he have to back Osborne?

The same reason why he took part in the Crossbell intervention, to prevent needless casualties and loss of life?

If you really, actually, truly believe that the current Ouroboros cares, at all, even slightly about that, I want to hear why, and why Rean would even believe that.

Thomas told Rean that Osborne was the main reason why Ouroboros was repelled, the people who hurt his adopted dad, kidnapped his sister and burned his hometown. If Osborne's actions protect Erebonia against that kind of thing, then why exactly is Rean going to choose Ouroboros over Osborne?
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>>380749204
...are these lines real? Because my interest in this series only continues to escalate.
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>>380819880
Estelle is a very entertainingly violent girl
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>>380749204
>She will never passionately beat you up
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>>380758302
The more i stare at this image the less it looks like the original gif
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>>380819880
Estelle is the best girl
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>>380820446
Most entertaining for me
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>>380821284
Entertaining, cute, inspirational - She's got it all.

My bae is one-of-a-kind. It's just a shame how she's too perfect for this world so I'll never have an Estelle of my own.
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>>380819880
Yes they're real. xseed did a wonderful job with the localization.
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>>380816481
>2 enforcers in his family
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>>380817306
>FF15 took 10 years to make, probably $100 budget, and the end result was a game with anemic storyline, characters you didn't give a fuck about, and an empty world that may as well not exist.

This summed up my feelings about XV after finishing the 3rd. I had heard about Trails for a while and had it purchased but it kinda sat there in my library. After finishing FFXV and being disgusted beyond words at how they could fuck up that badly I loaded up FC and was blown away. Ended up playing FC, SC, and 3rd in the span of about two weeks, left me wanting more badly.

>>380819880
Estelle is a really charming take on the tropes of a dumb shounen protag. She fits so many of them to a t while being an endearing tomboy.
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Fucking madman. He actually did it.
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>>380822138
>Altina dangerously close to headpatting Rean
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>>380817207

Nah. Crow was basically on easy mode. Vita did most of the heavy lifting to rush him through the trail to get Ordine ASAP, and while he was better than Rean as a result because of his early lead Rean eventually closed the gap, mainly because he was the true special snowflake and Rean actually had to work Valimar because he was the Reformists/Third Factions, only real robot against the Noble Alliance fielding several of them.

Crow by contrast bullied inferior tanks and a rookie Rean, and never really improved past how he was at the end of CS1.

There's a reason Crow's the only real Noble Alliance members Rean defeats outright.
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>>380822138
>hate Altina in CS2
>Love her in CS3 before its even out
The wonders of good character design
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>>380822334
Her kitty suit was too fetishy. Now she looks more like a normal girl.
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>>380822458
I'm honestly the type of person to like those outfits but the outfit AND the robot she rides on were just too much. I just didn't find it fitting at all.
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those who have already played the zero english patch: would you say it's worth it? it's getting harder and harder to resist the urge and i need some opinions to tip me towards either side
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>>380819613

Honestly because Crow I think. Since Crow living and dying for nothing seems a bit too meanspirited for this series,

I think his purpose was to make sure Rean never ever grows complacent and decides to just accept Osborne as their overlord because he'll remember that Osborne still ruins lives.
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>>380822919
It's not the worst thing to read through honestly, but my head can immediately get the gist of what they're saying without needing a second to decipher what they're talking about. Awkward is the best way to describe the quality but even then, I find it tolerable.

Get over the barrier with us
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>>380822919
It's not ideal but what are your alternatives?
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>>380822919
Yeah it's perfectly fine it's just every once in a while there will be a line or two that's worded awkwardly but it's no big deal really if you just really want to play it
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>>380815993

Hope you bothered to pick up the doctor story books because that's the only way to get zemurian ore.
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Anyone happen to know if there's any way to get easy U-material anywhere?
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>>380822919
Playing it right now (20 hours in). Maybe 20+ years of reading subs and speaking to ESL people from around the world has colored my judgment, but even when the translation is rough, I know precisely what Japanese and English phrases they were going for. It doesn't bother me at all.

If you get triggered by an ESL person's idea of English grammar, this will be pretty rough though. Some of the translations seem to be machine translated with GT or something too. It's kinda weird, but definitely playable.

The alternative is to learn moonrunes and play in Japanese.
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>>380819613
>Thomas told Rean that Osborne was the main reason why Ouroboros was repelled, the people who hurt his adopted dad, kidnapped his sister and burned his hometown. If Osborne's actions protect Erebonia against that kind of thing, then why exactly is Rean going to choose Ouroboros over Osborne?

Osborne wants to do the same thing, just under his terms, and Osborne is the reason they're attacking Erebonia in full force in the first place after he screwed them.

At least backing them would get Osborne out, and let the Imperial Family have control again, which seems to be who Rean really wants to lead the nation.
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>>380822989
>nothing

Saving Cedric and stopping giant robot apocalypse is "nothing"?

Seriously?

Think about it for a second. Because Crow died saving the crown prince and untold citizens from being drained into husks by the giant red robot, Rean will join with the organization that has no second thoughts about such horrible acts except when they aren't for their own benefit, in order to oppose the man who opposes the organization.

That makes no sense.

Osborne isn't Rean's first or second choice, but he is the guy taking care of Erebonia, and until Olivert stops pushing everything on everyone else and takes up the mantle, that cannot change.
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>>380823620
All Crow wanted was for Osborne to be dead, or stay dead. He saved the nation with Rean by putting Testa Rossa down but as if Ozzy is actually going to give the noble alliance's poster boy any credit.
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そこです!
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>>380823363
In Zero? I found that the Rest point before the fight with Yin at the Stargaze tower was a good U-Material farming spot. The Hades Cannon was next to a loading screen, so i would kill it, go to a new area, come back to re-spawn it and kill it again.
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What's the secret boss you can only fight on your second playthrough of zero during the final chapter?
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>>380822919
It sucks all the personality out of the characters but its definitely good enough to play. Still, I recommend a second playthrough if it ever gets an official xseed localization, even if just to see what the characters are really like.
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>>380823523
>Osborne wants to do the same thing

I'm sure you can prove this, with pictures. Obviously this is why Osborne left Rean with the Schwarzers in the first place

>Osborne is the reason they're attacking Erebonia in full force in the first place after he screwed them.

After they funded, supported and prolonged a gigantic war, not just in Erebonia, but in Crossbell and probably Calvard and who the hell knows elsewhere.

Remember why Vita summoned the giant castle? She was going to hand over control of the Empire to Duke Peppers, a man who has no qualms about feeding all of the capital to a giant death machine.

Surely Ouroboros would do nothing wrong if Osborne wasn't around!

>At least backing them would get Osborne out, and let the Imperial Family have control again

Yes, it would allow Shirley and Campanella and Red Constellation and the 13 Factories do whatever they want to Erebonia and not worry about being opposed by a man they treat with great caution.

I never thought I'd ever hear "Leave the bad guys aloneeeeee!!!" in a jrpg thread, but I don't understand why people are so insistent that Ouroboros needs a break and shit.
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>>380823879
Thanks, i'll keep that iin mind.
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>>380822919
If you have a history of reading translations of questionable fluidity from places like Baka Tsuki, you will do just fine with this..
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>>380823757
>All Crow wanted was for Osborne to be dead, or stay dead.

And look at all the satisfaction it gave him.

He said it in the Intermission: He wanted to put an end to the fighting. His grudge gave him no rest, and no peace of mind, and he only was able to be happy by moving past it.

>as if Ozzy is actually going to give the noble alliance's poster boy any credit.

Do you...seriously think Crow cared about his reputation?
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>>380819613
>the people who hurt his adopted dad, kidnapped his sister and burned his hometown

That was Jusis's dad who kept pulling that stuff. And Oroborus kept getting pissed about it, to the point where the only reason Duvalie didn't just kill him himself was because they wanted to set up his defeat by Class 7.

Vita did kidnap Elise, but she wanted to do it without bloodshed, and actively stops the Jaegers from doing so.

Turning on the Vermillion Apocalypse was also Cayanne, they just wanted to use it as bait to get Valimar and Ordine to throw down.

They were negligent and did help the Noble Alliance get off the ground yeah, but all the really evil actions were done by the Nobles themselves without Oroborous's support.
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Are there any cheat tables for the English patch version of Zero?
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>>380824514
He died satisfied but everyone knows that he failed his life's goal.
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>>380824514
>Do you...seriously think Crow cared about his reputation?

Rean probably does.
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>>380824618

Yes, Jusis's dad, who was given weapons and equipment and support by Ouroboros.

And Vita did not stop the jaegers from hurting anything, at all. She only stepped in when Rean had knocked down all of them, and used the brainwashing as a distraction to grab Alfin and Elise.

She didn't step in while they burned Rean's hometown. Not while his dad was shot and his mom attacked.

She even laughed about it and about grabbing the girls! And she's among the nicer Anguis that we saw, especially compared to who's coming to Erebonia this time around.

Ouroboros set up the civil war and kept it going as long as possible in order to have two robots fight, and to them, this was more important than how much damage was done in the west or whose village was destroyed by the fighting or whether or not the Nord Highlands were torn apart.

They aren't actively evil like the Noble Alliance, but Vita is hilariously callous about human life. Is Novartis and the new Third Anguis supposed to be concerned about civilian casualties this time around?
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>>380824139

It really comes down to what's worse. Oroborous occasionally doing shady shit, or Osborne holding them off but also conquering the whole continent and making all the other nations Erebonia's bitches.

Oroborous might have caused problems in Crossbell but at least they didn't fucking conquer the place shake up everyones lives and make the people praise the great nation of Erebonia.

At least Oroboros is only a problem once in a while.
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>>380824514
>Fie's thighs
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>>380822919
There have been official localizations worse than it
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>>380825171
Wasn't the whole point that she was trying to get on Rean's nerves in order to reenact the battle on top of the infernal castle? Or maybe she's just really a sadistic bitch.
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>>380825398

She's just manipulative. The whole kidnapping was just to force Rean to enter the war rather than hole up in Ymir, so he'd get stronger with Valimar.

Then when Cayenne tries to blackmail Rean into joining the Alliance instead, she has Crow basically give him a pep talk to convince him to break out instead, then shows up to force everyone to let him go so he and Crow would keep fighting.

Everything was just to keep Rean in the war opposing the Alliance to become Crow's equal, even it meant shooting the Alliance in the foot by sabotaging their attempt to get both knights on their side.

It didn't even matter who won, they just needed to not have Crow stomp him, although she didn't expect Rean to actually win, she's was ok with that outcome.
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>Rina Sato voicing a lewd titty monster
I'm not sure if I'm 100% about this
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>>380825289
>It really comes down to what's worse. Oroborous occasionally doing shady shit

>shady shit

Starting the 100 Days War.

The Liberl Crisis.

The Civil War.

Setting off a months long global crisis over Crossbell.

This is... just shady shit?

>Osborne holding them off but also conquering the whole continent

We know less about Osborne's end game than we do about Ouroboros's end game.

So no, I don't take that "Osborne is mega Hitler" meme seriously

>Oroborous might have caused problems in Crossbell but at least they didn't fucking conquer the place shake up everyones lives

What?

If Lloyd hadn't escaped prison, then Ouroboros would still be supporting Crossbell, and if you believe that Crossbell wasn't fucking up everyone's lives, including Crossbellans themselves like holy fuck, then you are in for a huge surprise when you play Ao no Kiseki in english.

Osborne isn't dumping monsters on the streets and ordering jaegers to attack citizens and blow up buildings, unlike the people Ouroboros supports.

>>380824735
>He died satisfied but everyone knows that he failed his life's goal.

So? Not one of his friends supported his life's goal.

Even Vita didn't care about it. She said that she suspected that Osborne was still alive, but said absolutely nothing to Crow.

His comrades did, but not one of them could bother to find a reason to live alongside him after they thought Osborne died. Crow even allowed his comrades to kill themselves in chapter 5 of Cold Steel 1, and was cold enough to not let any emotion about how his guys died in front of his eyes.

>>380824837
>Rean probably does.

He doesn't even really care for his reputation. He's not into the publicity game.
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>>380825916
The best

>tfw still waiting for the Zero/Ao Evolution miracle
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>>380826024
>If Lloyd hadn't escaped prison, then Ouroboros would still be supporting Crossbell, and if you believe that Crossbell wasn't fucking up everyone's lives, including Crossbellans themselves like holy fuck, then you are in for a huge surprise when you play Ao no Kiseki in english.

Admittedly I haven't but if Crossbell was so corrupt and scummy to it's own people why is everyone, Lloyd and party included so upset and resisting when Osborne takes over.

Also Jesus Christ is there any Group in Trails that isn't assholish to some degree?
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>>380825916
CUTE
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>>380826304
>Also Jesus Christ is there any Group in Trails that isn't assholish to some degree?
Bracers can do no wrong
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Enough with the unmarked crossbell spoilers you faggots
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Why do we hate the Evo versions again?
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>>380826529
Because they never got localized
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>>380826304

They still do want independence, that's why.

They can fight injustice in their own ranks but still want independence, it's not like one prevents the other.

And if you've been lead to believe by /v/ memes that Lloyd and party are just going to kill Erebonians, and then Calvardians, and then Erebonians and then Calvardians over and over until Crossbell has military supremacy and can't be invaded, then you are in for a very great surprise when you play the Crossbell games.
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>>380826560
Ah, EOP sour grapes. Like always.
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>>380826304
>Admittedly I haven't but if Crossbell was so corrupt and scummy to it's own people why is everyone, Lloyd and party included so upset and resisting when Osborne takes over.
Venezuela may hate their government but they would probably still object if America invaded and annexed them.
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>>380826024

Sounds like they should just nuke the whole continent and put all these poor bastards out of their misery.
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Randy hopefully finds a girl for himself, Lloyd is taking too many of the girls.
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