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No QTE in new God of War

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https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/15/15811678/god-of-war-ps4-director-no-qtes-quick-time-events

GOTY material now. It's gonna be the God Hand successor we've been waiting for
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>>380748103
Wow now it's gonna be shit
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>>380748103
Good, God of War has to atone for the only sin it committed and it was the QTE, along with RE4.
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>>380748103
I really didnt like the combat and the camera behind his back doesn't look that great. I heard it will be open wolrd so i suppose it was necessary but i just doesnt look good.
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Fucking DROPPED
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>>380748310
>>380748590
>God of war announced
>hurr cuck of war gonna have QTE shitty game!
>devs now say no QTES are in
>WAHHHH THAT WAS THE BEST THING THIS GAME IS SHIT NOW
Make up your fucking mind /v/ and stop moving the goal post
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>>380748103


they're just gonna call em "cutscene button prompts" or something
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This just says to me: "We are reinforcing your beliefs that we have removed any semblance of possible gameplay in order to make the series even more cinematic and boring"

What an awful direction this game is taking. Did the developers not learn from the failure that was The Order: 1886?
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>>380748701
No, they probably will not have button presses
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>>380748537
I don't think the camera angle is shitty. It actually looks kind of new and interesting; I don't think I've ever played a melee action game with a camera quite like this. It looks like some kind of fluid combination of RE4 / God Hand and Dark Souls (with no lock on). It seems like you can block with your shield anytime and can quickly dash or roll around to reposition yourself. Hopefully they have implemented some kind of quick-turn system that you can maybe use with the dashes/rolls
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>>380748103
but kratos is the qte
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But if Kratos was throwing his beard around to posses their enemies people would call it the super game of the next 3 years
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If qtes are a series of button presses, does that make rhythmn games qtefests?
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>>380748103
>Naming features that AREN'T in the game wins you GOTY
What a fucking disaster holy shit.
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>>380748643
>Expecting /v/ to not move goal post
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>>380748103
So is not God of War anymore. Great they killed another franchise.
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>>380748643
Wow, it's almost as if people on this site have different opinions.
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>>380748643
/v/ has always loved QTEs newfag.
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>>380749014
All games are QTEs with varying degrees of leeway.
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>>380748842
>qtes
>gameplay
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>>380748103
How much you want to bet it really is QTE but they just call it something else like contextual button prompt or some other jargon?
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>>380748103
I never saw anything wrong with it from the trailers aside from the fighting not looking like the previous game. But see the 2nd trailer it shows fighting looking nearly the same as GoW3 with the included little shit kid helping.

The only issue here is people clearly never played the previous GoW games. There are a lot of slow parts and story telling in the games, just the trailers for the previous games always showed off fighting. This time around they are showing off more story telling because thats what ultimately GoW turned into after 1. The original creator of 1 wanted to stop there, but the story was to good to stop.
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>>380748103
>GOTY material now
too mad they managed to fuck the gameplay EVEN MORE now
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>>380749719
Or they'll just replace qtes with slow walking sections where a npc is spouting exposition at you.
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>>380748847
This. Everything will probably be visual cues and when en enemy reaches a weakened state, you can press a button to do a cinematic kill or just keep attacking with no button prompts.
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The inclusion of QTEs don't make or break a game. The way the article describes it, it just sounds like a QTE without prompts, and instead just mashing the attack button. The way it's coming off, it's combat isn't going to hold up with the old fans, and doesnt look intereating enough for the uninitiated.
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>>380749618
see
>>380749575
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>>380750046
Out of the twenty people I knew that really loved the franchise, none of them was a combo heavy player. Even online, I think I'be only ever seen two guys who can do a 15+ combos without spamming magic. Trust me, the old fans are going to love this.
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So my problem with this is that from all the combat gameplay, a lot of the kills on the giants and whatever look like the violent QTE kills from the previous games. I'm betting they're just taking out the button prompts and the movie meme is becoming reality.
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>>380748103
You can't fix garbage gameplay by just removing QTEs
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>>380750046
>it's combat isn't going to hold up with the old fans
It's not a game for the old fans. It's review/game awards bait, it's the Last of Us game, that has to keep people interested in the PS4 until Naughty Dog can finish Last of Us 2.
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>>380748103
How am I supposed to have a cinematic experience without QTE's?
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>>380750634
>not knowing every GoW game has story telling and ton of slow parts for puzzles and cutscenes.
>not knowing GoW3 had pandora you dragged around for a bit to do shit for you

Why do fags who haven't even played the games try and talk shit? Judging from the 2nd trailer i got more of a GoW3 feel than anything. I don't see TLoU affecting much in the game aside from the art.
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I wonder if people would complain just as much if they made a sequel with the same mechanics as the last 4.
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>>380750909
The Order
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>>380748103
>It's gonna be the God Hand successor we've been waiting for

you realize God Hand had QTEs right? They just didn't abuse them.
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>>380748103
holy shit, now I'm a bit more excited. Please don't fuck this up like spiderman
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>>380749892
Truly, GoW is the cinematic gaming experience we've all been waiting for.
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>>380751097

but that had tons of qtes
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>>380751110
uhh you can spam the qtes alot if you know what you are doing and they are op.
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>>380748103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKHiyKx7qLY

>Kratos allies with Jörmungandr
Gee, I wonder if the big twist will be that he ends up starting up the Ragnarök, realizes that Loki is a dipshit as well and ends up fighting with Aesir in the sequels, probably gets killed off in silence while his son is one of the few humans who survive.
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>>380748881
>some kind of quick-turn system that you can maybe use with the dashes/rolls
that would be pretty cool
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>>380748103
What I liked about the newest trailer is it showed the AoE based gameplay is still there.
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not qte? what are they going to do with boss fights after you beat them? play a cutscene?
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>>380753182
That fighting looks so good. I can't wait to play this on God Mode. I hope they let us play on God Mode from the start.
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>mfw I liked the QTE in GoW games
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>>380753182
that shield bash looks nice we rarely can use a shield for something else than block and parry
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>>380752940
>killing off Kratos
doubt it. He is the face of the series. It'd be like Halo killing off Master Chief
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>>380753558
Only time I liked GTE was being able to grab those fucking harpies and ripping off their wings. A group of those fuckers on god mode was annoying as hell.
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>>380749502
>Spider-Man PS4 threads
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>>380752940
nigga kratos dies in every Gow
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>>380752940

Odin is a dick to him at some point, probably related to his inevitable son's death so he can scream "OOODDIIINNNNN!" and murder the entire Norse mythology.

Thats God of War games in a nutshell. Kratos kills everyone. Literally. And when he's done killing everyone, he kills himself because theres nobody else left to be angry at.
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>>380749806
>This time around they are showing off more story telling because thats what ultimately GoW turned into after 1.
GoW was always about gameplay. This abomination isn't.

>>380750221
>none of them was a combo heavy player
Combos had nothing to do with GoW. It's an efficiency focused series that stresses grabs, the environment, magic and playing dirty. This is none of those.
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>>380754249
>Kratos kills his way out of Valhalla
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>God of my wife's son
LEL
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>>380754313
GoW1 was about gameplay. Anything after 1 was more story based. Prove me wrong you dumb fuck.
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>>380748103
>No QTEs
Good
>Regular combat is a step down from previous
In the garbage bin it goes.
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I wonder if he's going to get a staff weapon on account of being voiced by Teal'c.
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>>380748643
>expecting any consistency at all from /v/tards
heh
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>>380748103
Weird. QTEs on finisher gory moves were kind of the staple of the GoW series. I guess this game is going to break some traditions, like the sex minigames.
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>>380755659
Is that confirmed?

Was hoping Kratos would pound the qt from the trailer.
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I'm actually interested to try this. I never played the previous ones.
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>>380755784
Not really but since the game is meant to be more emotional and story-based I kind of supposed it would get rid of distracting elements
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>>380755784
that is his son you sick creep
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>>380756064
Kid walking in on his dad getting wild is perfect coming-of-age material.
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>>380755784
>sex scene
>the creepy kid is peeping you in the corner
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So instead of QTEs you have forced walking sections. Gotchu senpai.
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QTEs are a good thing if they are challenging

Fact

QTE hating is just a dumb meme. Some people started saying QTEs are bad, with flimsy explanations, and everyone started repeating it, making it a meme
Like "Trump colluded with the russians". No proof, but everyone is saying it so it must be true
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>>380756240
yeah, you are forced to walk your character in video game. What were they thinking?
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>“[QTE’s] are cool,” said Barlog, “but we’re finding a better way.”
>Everything so far besides grafix look worse
What did he mean by this?
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>>380756926
>graphics
Have you played Ascension recently?
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>>380752940
"okay" "i am" "its the woldr serpent"
this little annoying fuck makes it go backwards, taking all seriousness of the context away
he should have had logan daughters behaviour, silent and deadly instead
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>>380757208
I thought it sounded fine. I think you just hate kids.
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>>380757195
No, why?
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>>380753472
>That fighting looks so good
lol
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>>380757474
It looks better than this game
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>>380757349
it actually didnt, and yes youre right i hate kids but i was just neutrally speaking.. if he didnt say anything it wouldve just been better
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>>380757862
Nope, kid needed to speak so there's a back and forth between him and Kratos. Having Kratos say something and him not replying or emoting back would be weird and one-sided.
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>>380757619
I wouldn't go that far, but I'd rather play Ascension any day over 4
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>>380749719
>>380750046

What makes a QTE a QTE is that you are pressing different buttons than normal to perform them. Like you are pressing the heavy attack button to grab your son's hand before he falls off a cliff, or you are mashing the shoulder buttons to rip off an enemy's head when those buttons are normally used for something else (such as aiming+throwing your axe and blocking w/ your shield). This is why *real* QTEs have button prompts that show up on the screen; because otherwise you wouldn't know what to press.
If you are pressing heavy attack on a stunned enemy and it performs / starts a brutal execution move, that is a contextual attack, NOT a QTE. People really need to learn the difference.
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>>380753182
This is literally the same gameplay that was in previous games, only difference is the camera angle and shorter range, and that's only because he's using an axe and shield here. Give him the chains and it's literally the same.
>/v/ bitching about series they don't know anything about
How surprising.
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>>380748103
>>380748643
RE 4 and GoW games had the only good QTE imo
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>>380748103
I want to be happy about this decision but the sad truth is that QTE were probably the best thing in the past GoW.
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You guys are insufferable
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>>380754646
>Prove me wrong you dumb fuck.
GoWII has the best gameplay in the series and dumbest story retard.
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>>380748103
So are those battle cutscenes just triggered automatically then?

Amazing, somehow they made it even worse.
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2>1>3>GoS>Ascension
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>>380758823
>This is literally the same gameplay that was in previous games
>shorter range roll and melee combat
>no Blades of Chaos/Athena/Exile
>QTE rage
>stamp collecting
What did Anon mean by this?

>How surprising.
You should take your own advice.
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>>380753182
will the slowdown be in the actual game or do u think that is in it now just to show how cool it looks.
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>>380759915
>2bros
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>>380748643
>God of war announced
>hurr cuck of war gonna have QTE shitty game!
>devs now say no QTES are in
>quick we gotta falseflag spamming that we liked it better before so someone can make a morale "hurr /v/ doesn't like anything hurr hurr"
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>>380748643
gee it's almost like there's different people on /v/ you fucking retard
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>>380760601
What do we call people who like 1 or 3 more?
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>>380748103
man, I can't wait to input the correct button combo in order to respect a woman's boundaries when she declines sex from Kratos!
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>>380760786
damaged
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>>380760017
https://youtu.be/ibfkacdW_x8?t=285
Oh wow, look at that range with Blade of Olympus!
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QTEs don't bother me too much if they're used sparingly or are optional for a cool finisher move.
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>>380761171
>Oh wow, look at that range with Blade of Olympus!
>the sword that shoots lasers has bad range
>the BoO makes the BoC's range magically shorter
What?
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>>380761090
I'm ok with this
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>>380753182
The camera being so close make it look too limited.
I'm thinking enemies will either be really slow to attack or always in front of you because being surrounded by fast enemies with that camera angle would be awful.
QTEs in GoW never really bothered me aside from opening chests and doors.
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>>380761632
You can throw the axe for range.
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>>380748103
>Removed the QTEs but also the gameplay
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>the player isn’t obeying quick time prompts; instead, they’re tapping the the same attack buttons used throughout the game to deliver attacks as they feel fit.
>implying that isn't exactly the same thing
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>>380763481
it's not
see >>380758721
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How dare you compare this to God Hand.
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I sure am excited for Ryse 2 - PG13 edition
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>>380749502
are you fucking insane
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>>380764109
how niw ar u????????????
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>>380758721
The definition of "QTE" is irrelevant. We're not arguing semantics. If you want to call it a "contextual attack" or "cinematic takedown" or "interactive cutscene" then fine, but that doesn't suddenly make it okay.
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>>380749259
But anon, what if it's a feature no one likes?
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>>380764458
It's either a QTE or a cutscene. If it's a QTE you whine that it indeed is a QTE. If it's a cutscene you whine about "losing control" and not being able to do that cool move by yourself.
It's a lose/lose by /v/ standards.
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>>380764458
contextual attacks are great, fuck off
the player controls the context
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>>380764062
it's nothing like Ryse if only because it Ryse has bamham combat and this doesn't
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QTE's in God of War were great though
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The combat looks flaccid and lacking weight.
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ITT: people don't know the difference between a QTE and a contextual prompt

>contextual prompt
press the button here to do an action

>QTE
press the button here or you die/take damage
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>>380766236
Probably one of the few games that did QTE right. Personally, I think people who hate QTE in games played a couple games with really bad QTE segments, so they hate the mechanic as a whole now.
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>new God of War removes QTEs
>suddenly everyone loved the QTEs in old God of War
you people really want to hate everything, huh?
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>>380765462
I wouldn't even call them cutscenes. They are just combat animations. The rest of the game world is still going on around you as you perform them
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3's QTE animation sequences were fucking great.
>putting out Poseidon's eyes
>tearing off Helios' head
>tearing out Chronos' fingernail
>hacking off Hermes' legs
>smashing Zeus' head for as long as you want
Satisfying, brutal and well-deserved.
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>>380766714
I explained it as simply as I could and you still misunderstood. How fucking stupid can you be? Are your parents cousins?
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>>380748103
>It's gonna be the God Hand successor we've been waiting for

This actually offended me
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>>380748103
>wtf i love qtes now
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>>380748103
QTEs was never the thing i've heard people complain about the new god of war.

If only it wasn't directed as if it was yet another hollywood-flick-but-since-its-a-videogame-i-guess-its-not-so-bad moviegame from sony, maybe aspies who like vidya wouldn't be so skeptical.
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>>380767589
I misunderstood because you said nothing about contextual animations, when the anon you quoted said all three were the same thing. I had to assume you were either lumping them in as with QTEs or with cutscenes and I went with the latter, because no games do mid-game cutscenes except for Deus Ex and because contextual animations often tend to be fairly long, so /v/ always complains that they take away control.

It would help if everyone didn't have their own personal definitions for these things
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>>380748103

While no QTEs are nice, the combat in the God of War games were never that good. That was a big reason why they added them in: to make the combat look more engaging.
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>>380758721

>Was going to make a comment about how they were probably going to have something they'd call like "Timed Contextual Commands" that they could say were technically not QTEs
>See this post
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>>380748643
Multiple people out of millions of visitors to a website have the same opinion on something
>hurr fucking /v/ stupid hivemind

Multiple people out of millions of visitors to a website have different opinions on something
>fucking flip flopping contrarian retards stop changing ur views!!
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>>380748103
We now live in a world where God of War doesn't have qtes, but Monster Hunter does.
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>>380770101
You learn something new every day. Though you really should have already known this, since contextual attacks have been around for ages.

No one calls them QTEs except for people who are just trying to shit on the game in question with the "it's got QTEs (I mean technically, according to my personal definitions), and QTEs are bad!" meme
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