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Why is this game so goddamn hard?

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Why is this game so goddamn hard?
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>>380713515
Because you made a shitty character. Or worse, you picked one of the pre-made characters.
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because you suck faggot
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>max out a gun type
>get an accurate gun of that type
>aim for the eyes

There you go, you just beat the whole game.
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>>380713515
because games used to be for people that had IQs over 90
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>>380713515
Honestly I wish more stats-based RPGs had a temple-type area at the start, I hate investing into my character and then finding out like ten hours later that I'm fucking useless.
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I hope you at least got past the ants op
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>>380713515
Pfff its easy. Play the German Censored Version and you know what is hard. Remember those kids, stealing your stuff? The are invisble in the German Version.
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It's not really hard.
Why isn't your video feed working?
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>>380714190
Oh God, no. That beginning Temple level is really fucking awful. The typical guns/lockpicking/speech build is viable in every other area except for that godawful Temple area. Locking you into melee at the start was really shit.

Even Fallout 1 gave you that option. Your starting inventory has a gun and some bullets and a knife. And depending on your tag skills, it gives you additional items based on your playstyle.
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>>380714289
the plants were fuckin me up for a little bit
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>>380714663
>you have 10 AG so you can run past the ants
>you have speech so you can tell the boss to let you pass
>you can't kill the plants or geckos but who cares, skip
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>>380713515
If a game lets you make decisions that end up in an unfinishable state, the game failed and not the player.
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>>380713642
I've heard that you should aim for the eyes before, why's it so good? Does it reduce their accuracy?
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>>380717273
But...but I want to kill everything. Or at least play through it normally and kill the ones that aggro. If your just going to run through it like, you might as well mod it out.
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>>380717536
>called shots reduce you chance to hit
>called shots increase your critical hit chance by the same amount it's decreased by
>aiming for eyes reduces chance to hit by 60% but increases crit chance by 60%
>when you score a crit you roll on the critical hit table
>each body part has a different column in the table
>the eye column has the highest damage multipliers
>if you roll high enough an eye crit can cause blindness (perception reduced to 1, you get +8% chance to hit per point of perception)
>if you roll even higher an eye crit can cause blindness with no saving throw
>if you have the better criticals perk you can roll over 100 on the crit table and inflict instant death (even if you're using a bb gun or something)
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>>380717889
>I don't want to miss out on a minuscule amount of XP
Get a grip, Anon.
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>>380717961
Jesus christ that's some amazing cheese right there/
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>>380714395
>tfw managing to bluff your way past this
Wish I was this diplomatic in real life.
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>>380717889
>killing ANYTHING before you level up 5 times for doing ez fetch quests: ghost farm, and repair the reactor
enjoy your 64% chance to do 2 damage to a fucking gecko and save scumming your way through the slavers guild.
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>>380713515
Just saveload lmao. Westerners don't care about balance or how saving should work in a game to preserve difficulty.
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>>380719005
Balance ruins games. Just look at Pillars.
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>>380713515
Because it's a pre-2007 game made for people who had to think a bit before playing a game.
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>>380713515

Made char with no "tribal" combat skill and died to trials?
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>>380713693
>>380719813
These
It's possible to do an ironman run of it at 2 EN (or 1 if you don't feel like borderline cheating with Gifted), you just need to figure out how to abuse some systems (gaining gratuitous amounts of early game xp via locking doors/doctor usage/skipping the established order of Arroyo->Klamath->Den->Modoc->Ghost Farm->VC, etc) and knowing which perks to avoid. There's a decent amount of metagaming and cheesiness involved, but some of it boils down to common sense.
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>>380718173
It gets better, there's a late-game perk that gives you an additional (10*Luck)% chance of landing a crit. With 10 LK, every shot you land is a crit and a Better Criticals shot to the eyes has something silly like a 50% chance of instantly vaporizing your enemy, and failing that it "only" does a truckload of armor-bypassing damage. The only thing that actually puts up a fight is Horrigan because of his modified crit tables.
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>>380720325
>It's possible to do an ironman run of it at 2 EN
That's because EN is a dump stat and what kills you are ridiculous crits.

>>380720371
Horrigan seems to receive terrible damage from burst weapon crits. Seen him hit for 200+ from one Bozar burst.
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Trying to do a melee run of this game is suffering

There's no weapons for you and you have to really hope they miss 70% of their shots or you're screwed

Melee always seems like an afterthought in Fallout games
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>>380720543
You just need lots of sequence and AP. Maybe do drugs or something.
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>>380720325
max char and take high per and agi
take sex perks

slut your way through the game

sleep with the final boss
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>>380720543
bruce lee build is fun, moderate str though and for 10 agi

punch things 6 times in the eyes

or penetrating spear kicks to the groin
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>>380720657
never stick your dick in mutie scum
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>>380720440
unlike later fallout games I wont name

in the originals EACH bullet in a burst gets a crit roll, if the total is high enough, guaranteed overkill splat
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>>380720865
never done a porn star run?

don't forget high endurance
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>>380720916
New Vegas is good, though. And OG FO crits are really silly. The series never had amazing combat, truth to be told. Well, maybe Tactics was okay, didn't play it.
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They specifically made gifted trait for retarded casuals like you
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>>380721019
I liked original crits, firing an uzi into someones head at a range of 1 foot. should be fatal
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>not having getting the sharpened spear
who would do this
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>>380720916
If I recall correctly, the Avenger can actually get into the four digits of damage with the right setup and a good helping of luck.
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If your going to play this game you want all the unofficial patches that fix the bugs interplay never did fix
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>>380721115
It very often isn't in OG Fallout, though.
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>>380720543
Yeah, I still wonder how people managed to beat Vault 15 with melee only, that place is full of burst weapon bullshit
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>>380721474
The biggest number I had was something like 1812, using Vindicator on some asshole raiders.
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Fun Build mode

EXPLOSIVES
HEAVY WEAPONS
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>>380713515
>10 Luck, Jinxed, high AGI, High Strength and unarmed
I didn't want any trabble but trabble found me.
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Worst F2 enemies, and why are they wannamingos
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>>380721797
10 luck and jinxed is fucking amazing

watching your enemies critically shooting themselves is great
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>>380721816
purge with flame
the real dickheads are the bandits/robbers/highwaymen you encounter every other hour (even with the patch) when you're still in babby gear
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goodnight all, have fun killing slavers
and hubologists
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>>380721353
you need a certain amount of perception to get the sharpened spear which only gives like +1 damage anyway
Perception is a dump-stat for melee characters
If you didn't tag melee you're better of punching than using a spear.
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>>380722478
>if you do all the hubologist quests they STILL kill themselves in the ending
>they give you permanent +2 luck for free tho which is pretty cool
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So what's the hypoethetical, scientifically-verified most perfect build of all time?

I'm assuming 10 in every stat is possible, since it usually is if you're severely autistic
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>>380722841
>10 in every stat is possible
Dumb frogposter
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>>380722841
>10 in every stat
yeah sure, if your name is Frank Horrigan
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>>380723031
sensible chuckle
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>>380717961
Out of curiosity, is there anything OP in the first game that can give you a edge early on?
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>>380723219
Fast shot affecting melee/unarmed
There's a 10mm SMG in what's usually the third area you get to
1 has a much easier start since you actually get a fucking gun if you tagged small guns
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>>380723219
yes: the Alien Blaster

jk. haven't played that one as much, consider taking the one-hander trait. It gives +20% to hit with 1 handed weapons and -40% to hit with 2 handers. Should help with the machete, 10mm, and 10mm uzi you will often use in the early game.
Later in the game 1 handers become less effective but you can take the Mutate perk to replace 1 hander with something else, if you don't want to take a trait that actually does something just take bloody mess.
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>>380723219
Barely visible hunting rifle in the toilet of abandoned vault. You can eliminate all khans easily with it and load all the loot on Ian, he has no weight limit.
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>>380723986
The whole point of Mutate is admitting you fucked up or doing some silly Finesse->Fast Shot three levels before Sniper build since it acts like a second bonus rate of fire
If you go one handed you're hurting the hunting rifle, double barreled shotgun, and the burst shotgun, all of which are pretty decent early-midgame weapons, in exchange for a rather paltry accuracy boost for the .223 pistol and alien blaster, assuming you're lucky enough to find it.
Evidently it doesn't hurt Unarmed weapons though, so it's still pretty ok.
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>>380722962>>380723031

Prety sure it's possible, Gifted alone gets you about 8 points short and the game is full of places where you get the permanent stat upgrade
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>>380713515

It isn't.

>>380714190

Temple and Arroyo are tutorial areas.
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>>380722841
>>380724479
>>380724606

well I believe:

>max special = 70
>base: 40
>gifted: 47
>all of the GAIN perks: 54
>memory modules: 58
>either Hubologist scan (these are mutually exclusive): 60
>power armour +4 STR: 62
>having mirrored shades a hand slot: 63
>bruiser trait (never pick this except as a joke): 65
>fuck Ms Kitty, and then immediately fuck one of her prostitutes (restoration version only): 66

well 66/70 is a little short of permanent 10 for every stat but...
>if it's night time and you have the Night Person perk: 70/70, 10 in each stat
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>>380725208
Beat me to it.
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>>380725208
why was frank so based?
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>>380725593
>remove muties
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>>380725208
oops made a mistake, added +2 instead of +4 for power armour bonus strength

>>380725593
>*orders men to minigun a child*
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>>380725208
Small frame gives +1 agi, which means you can actually be a madman who goes through with all of that and still have a semiviable build
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>>380724258

End game small arms character build probably should be optimized around gauss pistol.

>>380725208

Does restoration mod fix pariah dog? It drops your luck to 1 and gives you jinxed.

>Some would say this encounter isn't so bad, because there's a bug you may be able to exploit to raise your Luck. There are no guarantees, but this is pretty much how it works: 1) The bug doesn't have anything to do with being able to find the pariah dog in the first place, or how to approach/kill it, rather it's related to how the game keeps track of and modifies (or fails to modify) your stats. 2) To profit from the bug your original Luck must have been 5 or less. If it was 5 you must not have increased it to more than 6 (i.e. by taking the Gain Luck perk or the SF zeta scan), but raising your Luck from 4 to 7 does allow you to gain more Luck. 3) The bug triggers when your Luck has been raised from its initial value by getting Gain Luck and/or a zeta scan before the dog joins you. Although you get the Jinxed perk your Luck doesn't go to 1, and when you kill the dog your LK increases above its current value. 4) The increase in Luck is equal to your current LK minus one; e.g. it will go from 4 to 7, or from 6 or more to 10. 5) If your original Luck was 6 or higher the first part of the bug may still trigger - not losing any Luck - but you don't gain anything, either.
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PUT IT ON SALE TODD

PUT IT ON SALE
TODD


PUUUUT IIIIIT ON SAAAAAAALE TOOOOOOOODDD
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>>380726370
But anon, why would you want an old, broken game like Fallout 2 on sale instead of the amazing Fallout 4?
It was game of the year 2015, you know. In fact, you SHOULD buy it at full price, but maybe Todd will lower it so that you can play. C'mon, it'll probably be a whole 10% off during the Steam Summer Sale!
And the season pass will be too!

Why would ANYONE buy Fallout 2 for 10 dollars or less when you could pay 30 dollars or more for Fallout 4?
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>>380726278
You can only take 2 traits and that list already includes gifted and bruiser
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>>380726817
You silly billy, throw Bruiser out because it's easily the worst trait in the game.
Restoration Patch also adds in a permanent +1 agi boost to EPA which might be bugged so that you can keep using it, depending on the RP version, so the extra point of str from bruiser is negligible.
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