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FINAL FANTASY XIV STORMBLOOD

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ETA to EA 5 hours
Still waiting on last patch.

Job Guide
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/whitemage/

Full Patch Notes
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/296b070f41c0e0dedae24de50ae7c51abfa95055

Stay Calm and discuss the game.
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First for DRG
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SAM PRIDE WORLDWIDE
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>>380690218
>5 hours
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>>380690272
Fuck it we just letem have it
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>level BLM though msq to have gear already prepared for RDM

easy life
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Monk and whm on suicide watch
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Reminder to kick any SAMs not wearing the Amatsu set from your potd groups.
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>>380690218
post yfw SAM/NIN/DRG
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I'm quitting healing because this community is shit. Fuck enabling DPS shitters. I'll be a DPS shitter too.
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REMINDER BEGINS

DRG HAS STUN IN IT'S JUMP, SO IT BUILDS UP STUN RESISTANCE
NEW MECHANICS WILL INVOLVE STUNS
DON'T PLAY DRG

REMINDER ENDS
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>>380690218
>mfw it's actually 5 hours
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>>380690392
>actually leveling using potd
I'd rather shoot myself.
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WHAT MELEE DPS SHOULD I BE THEY'RE ALL SO GOOD except MNK of course
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>tfw monk
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Eat shit WHM and SCH I am the best healer now
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>yfw nin is even stronger now
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WHAT IS THE BEST SONG AND WHY IS IT THE GARLEAN ANTHEM?
>https://my.mixtape.moe/cfhczz.mp3
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>>380690476
definitely SAM it's the freshest
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So since dps are going to have longer ques to level up. Would it be wise for me to just do the MSQ of Stormblood on a dps instead of tank or healer?
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>PVP bard
>SAM
>DRG
>PLD

>>380690473
Just put something on the other monitor and run 1-10 over and over and over.
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>>380690492
>>>>>>>>now
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>>380690473
Have fun getting to 60 in a couple of days then
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https://www.twitch DOT tv/finalfantasyxiv

We're live.
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>>380690492
>now
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>>380690563

Forgot my reaction.
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>>380690218

Fuck man I'm going to be pulling an all-nighter. I tried to go to sleep but I'm way too hyped. The NIN changes look fucking AMAZING and I want to unlock my lv 62 ability ASAP. I'm going to regret staying up all night :(
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>>380690476
all melee dps has been kinda boring so far besides Nin, so sam looks refreshing atleast

i feel bad for DRG, great lore great gear but boring rotation/animations
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here's your greatsword, bro
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>>380690578
We now have better shields than SCh we are literally better than you at everything. We are going to run double AST now
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>>380690332
nani the fuck is going on here
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>>380690459
fuck off Noroi
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Here's your axe, bro
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>>380690594
Isn't that the point of early access anyways?
What's the point of hitting the content wall a day earlier?
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why does rdm suck so bad
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>>380690701
Oni club looks dope, I wish WAR got it.
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Who /redmage/ here?
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>>380690836
because you haven't played it

in b4 you tell me "I don't have to play it to know it's shit"
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>>380690737
Third ball locked.
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What role are you now?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13202748
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>>380690836
why did they ruin sch/smn
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>>380690753
>>380690701
And they are better than most greatswords/axes in the game. Hell, ogre club shits all over DRK anima weapons.
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remind me on something, when an adlo crits, does it get the double shield power on top of the crit?
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>>380690831
If you arent 70 by the time early acess tends then lol
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So with the new info has anything changed in regards to which jobs are in/out of the meta?
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>>380690447
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>wearing bkub tshirt
Why do I like this so much?
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>>380690563
>BRD
>Barrage
>Now allows for critical strikes with weaponskills.
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>Finally get Ala Mhigo expansion.
>Have to share it with Doma.
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>>380691063
why is foxclon so damn foxy?
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The only thing XIV combat had that made it stand out was the sheer amount of button presses that went into it. Now a lot of the jobs feel pretty streamlined and the rest of the combat mechanics aren't really all that engaging so I'm worried about longterm enjoyment here

It was already hard enough to stay away during roulette runs as it was
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>>380690969
>lol
Who are you racing and what is the prize?
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>>380690876
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>>380691063
Bkub probably sent it to Yoshi himself.
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>read job changes
>SCH
well then.
Is astro the only viable healer now?
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>>380690831
World first Susano and Lakshimi EX race.
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>>380691063
he probably has that AST comic taped to his monitor
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>>380691107
The first part will be heading into Ala mhigo, realizing "holy shit we're not prepared to fight the empire" and fleeing to the east to get some help. 4.1+ will come back to Ala Mhigo and try to take it.
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>>380690701
My roe oni cosplay is looking good
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>>380691212
No one cares for ex primals.
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>>380690969
Yeah bro, you gotta get into that Savage content as soon as possible!
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>>380691015
PLD in
WAR out

WHM and SCH out

MNK still out
MCH out
SAM in
BRD in (still)
SMN/BLM/RDM hard to tell without ingame testing but first impressions is BLM >= SMN > RDM
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>>380690941
>>380690276
When can we come out of the shed?
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>>380691212
>racing for ex primals
now there's the real lol
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Is there a stream up?
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>>380691172
BKUB is official XIVshill now actually. He does official XIV merch.
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>East asian expansion
>we get a flamethrower
IT AIN'T ME
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>>380691334
casters are fucking gone entirely thanks to NIN and DRG buffs
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>>380691352
when yoshi pulls his head out of his ass, so 4.2 at earliest
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>>380691015
Fucking kill yourself
You and anybody who replies to you, fucking bunch of faggots
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>>380691015
SAM/DRG/BRD/NIN
AST/AST
PLD/PLD
new meta because they utterly destroyed the other tanks/healers
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>>380691286

Considering Rhalgr's Reach is CLEARLY the Idyllshire of this expansion I think we might actually be heading back in the last act of the expansion.
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>>380691198
Top raiders are already speculating double ast maybe the norm for raiding.
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DEFEND THIS
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>>380691107
>Ala Mhigo itself is just a fucking dungeon
>Monk's temple too
It hurts
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>>380691352
What about shitting out 5 Forbidden Chakra's in a minute?
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>>380691396
>He does official XIV merch.
I want it.
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>>380691478
>Already existing ability meant for a tank with shit DPS versus new ability for DPS

Hmm
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>Rowena's House of Splendors Collectable Appraisers and Scrip Exchange are now also available in Limsa Lominsa, Gridania, and Ul'dah
Handy, but feels kind of like a random add in.
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Is the boost system online yet? The levelling in this game is killing me.
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>>380691446
The story will probably end on the cliff hanger of just preparing to charge and take back ala mhigo, with everyone preparing and getting ready in that area like the trailer.
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>>380691567
>WHM is literally his OC self-insert
>WHM is shit

What did SE mean by this?
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>>380691567
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>>380691478
PLD is a tank with far less damage dealing abilities.
Did you also complain about 50% Berserk?
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>>380691621
not til early access starts, I think. Maybe not til actual launch
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Protip: If you're posting in this thread then the 'meta' doesn't apply to you :^)
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>>380691524
That's a best case scenario
Monk's DPS is going to be pure RNG which is the bad thing
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I think i've finally decided.

Level BRD up through the MSQ and beat the early rush of SAM and RDM and then grind AST in dungeons
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WHO IS THIS
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>>380691352
>Monk gets shit on in their own half-expansion
I'm sorry bro.
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>>380691621

Why? What job are you planning on boosting?
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>>380690218
>>380690272
>>380690447
W-What happened to DRG? Is my maun going to be alright?
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>>380691015
New meta is
PLD
DRK
AST
SCH
SAM
BRD
DRG
NIN
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>>380691137
TWO
TW
TE
WA
WV
OE
OS
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Whats the RDM and SAM rotations?
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>>380691637
They already stated Ala Mhigo and Doma will both be liberated in the main story, and the post-launch patch stories will involve the aftermath of the liberation
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>>380691713
>WE WUZ KANGS Ramuh
Rhalgr, duh.
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>>380691713
ZEUUUUUUUUUUUS
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>>380691736
got some slick buffs
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>>380691713
Rhalgar the Destroyer.
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>>380690218
xth for Y'Shtola has best spats.
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>>380691657
He'll just change to AST.
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>>380691736
post sauce
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>>380691286
Probably, but then I guarantee Ala Mhigo will be wrapped up then and 4.2 to 4.whatever will be all Far East.
>The city itself is just a fucking dungeon.
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>>380691713
Rhalger
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Is yoshi going to stream the patch notes or am I gonna have to read them myself?
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Samurai BIG DICK DPS
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>>380691871
they're streaming right now
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>>380691713
Some ff6 summon I dunno
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>>380691404
aww man its actually good now. now I cant use this image any more
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>>380691763
>Sam
Ching Chong Chang
Ching Chung Chin
Ching Kung (isn't the aoe the two part combo?)

Fill your three gook badges

Spend them while filling gook guage

Spend gook gauge on SL/AOE as desired.
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>>380691763
Do something with your life and figure it out yourself.
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>>380691872
IS TOO BIG
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>>380691713
RHALGR AKKBAR
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>>380691404
Since it has no damage dropdown it seems decent... although after that you are overheated and will do next to no damage. Probably not worth and you are better off either ending a fight with it (and the bishop explosion) or using it as heat builder.
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>>380691830
get ready for Ala Mhigo (Hard) in 4.3
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>>380691713
MNK primal.
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>>380691713
Some famous monk dude what wrassled Coeurls or some shit.
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>>380691872
>3,500 potency
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>>380691872
>>380691989
fire IV is 2500 potency and can be spammed until you follow it up with a 4500 potency foul though
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>>380691872
>>380691989
FUCK OFF FAGS

WE WUZ MONK AND SHIIIIIET
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WHO'S BITCH IZ DIS??
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>>380691973
I think I understand.
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>>380690272
Does anyone have a picture of the ideal hotbar for controller for dragoon under stormblood?
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Hey MCH bros how are your party buffs? You did get something good enough to justify your existence right?
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>>380691872
>Cannot be assigned to a hotbar
Am I missing something?
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>>380692087
Your new wife.
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>>380691471
Isn't that going to hurt the lb build up?
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>>380692159
Nope. BRD is basically the only support now. MCH is ranged DPS with mana regen tacked onto it.
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>>380692159
fuck looking at BRD's kit im suddenly more hyped to play it than RDM or SAM...I feel like boosting one and just playing it to 70 first thing
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>>380692195
It's like NIN's mudras. You get an Iaijutsu skill that gets swapped out depending on how many moon runes you have
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>>380692195
What he's not telling you is that it's the PVP version of the skill.
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>>380691706
We're going to do the exact same thing then. Though I picked Ninja.
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>>380692087
Yda's sister who was pretending to be Yda
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>>380692195
It's on the other contextual button.
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>tfw MNK main

So, this is it then?
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>>380691352

You do realize that MNK's are going to be OP right?
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>>380692234
lb is worthless in most content
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>>380691740
>SCH
lol
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>stream is only in japanese
Why didn't I study my moonrunes when I had the chance?
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>>380692234
Doesn't matter, AST is just that good.
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>>380692195
Its like the Mantras of the ninjas. you do the necessary skills then that move comes up in a single button.
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>>380692087
mine senpai look at that tiddy window
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>>380690876

I'm breddy excited to try it out. The only thing holding me back is that I'd like to get to work on my Paladin as well to get through the MSQ, and dps classes are going to be in overabundance for who knows how long.
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>>380691872
>Cannot be assigned to a hotbar
WTF? So I have to type on chat "/ac Midare Setsugekka <t>" to use it?
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>>380692305
why did it have to end like this
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>>380692234
LB doesn't really matter so much and if you have only one duplicate it won't impact lb that much. Stronger shields and more chances for party wide balance will negate any impact slower lb has
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>>380692305
>cucked
>ala mhigo is a dungeon
it's time to sudoku
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>>380691767
So it's going to be as ARR where ever patch a new primal shows up and the Ascians being faggots again?
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post yfw PLD not only got buffed times infinity but it ALSO got an amazing sprint animation

IT'S OUR TIME
IT'S OUR TIME
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Reading these patch notes is too much. Hopefully bumbling my way around and figuring things out wont be too detrimental.
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>>380692085
>interesting weapon skill locked behind pvp
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>>380692372
your iai jutsu button will change depending on which sen is active iirc
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>>380692332
join the reddit discord for live cliffnotes
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>>380692372
No, it's the pvp version.
You can move it on your hotbar, but you can't move it outside of the normal one that change back to PVE when you get out of PVP.
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>>380691872

So you can instagib people in PvP? Grats.
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>>380691701
That's the way jobs are going this expansion. They want to stop people from completely mapping out rotations for fights and instead have the combat be a bit more reactionary.

See: Lilies, Aetherflow Trait, Lady/Lord of Crowns, Thundercloud/Firestarter, Impact, River of Blood and so on...
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>>380692463
I prefered the old one that would give you a free perfect balance for 6sec.
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>>380692525
what happened
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So what's wrong with WHM now?

I haven't been keeping up.
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>>380691102
Holyyy shitttt
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>>380692310
that means you get a guaranteed chakra with every bootshine right?
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500 potency is back bby
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>>380692085
Wth is this? Instant death for casters? Who okayed this
>mfw I'm going to have to play MNK just so I can play pvp
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MCH only needs 1 bullet for where they're going.
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>>380692504
Cure 2 is 5000 potency in PvP
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>>380690930
yes
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>>380692614
*meant to say bootshine will generate a ton of chakra
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>>380691701
>>380692531
>Pushing the RNG so much that double AST become the meta because of more chance to get balances
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>Barrage
>Now allows for critical strikes with weaponskills.
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>>380692327
Crit buff is nice bro.
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>>380692581
They lost Flaming Arrow and Wide Volley.
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>>380692610
>Refulgent Arrow is a weapon skill with 300 potency
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>>380691620
I think they are sick of how everyone just ends up in the same city like idylshire.
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>Listen for the past two years as SCH and WARfags stroke their own egos about how amazing they are
>Boast and talk about it for fucking ages
>SE and Yoshi P notice, obviously
>State MONTHS ago they fully intend to hit SCH and WAR with the nerf bat
>Both job communities pretend they're invincible
>Get nerfed
>HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO US YOSHIDA

like retarded pottery
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>>380692642
>>380692085
Dear god you just need to have 2 monks to kill anything.
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>>380691713

I'd give shekels for that outfit.
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>Drg main
>Was sad to see Geir recast timer upped to 35s
>See mirage dive cool down
>1s
>200 potency
>jump, spineshatter dive allow its use
MY DIIIIIIIIIICK.
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>>380692798
You got baited by trolls nigga
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>>380692614
In a perfect world, every other bootshine will
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Did they fix healers so you're not forced to DPS?
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Im new as fuck and just a trial. Level 25 lancer, im concerned that my server is dead though? Im on famfrit, is it worth it to transfer?
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>>380692603
They got one good skill in Thin Air (free spells for 12 seconds) but all of their other additions are RNG based and undertuned. They also get no raid damage buffs while Balance remains 20%.

Astro also gained Earthly Star, a 700 potency oGCD AoE Heal on 60 seconds Cooldown + they can convert unwanted cards into a 300 Potency oGCD Heal or Damage Spell.
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>>380692798
except the problem isn't that SCH and WAR got nerfed it's that AST and PLD just replaced them and are even more overpowered than SCH and WAR were at their prime. They didn't improve the balance at all.
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>>380692767
so their only AOE is rain of death?
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>>380692798
There is nerfing and making a class worthless. They made sch worthless. WHM and AST will be the new comp
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>>380692834
the coeurl skin is pretty damn cool
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>>380692798
>posts the worst dps and the one that will be in the cuckshed

LUL xeno said on his strim is sux dude
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>>380691767

Well they are being stupid there, heavensward was good because they could draw out the dragonsong war. AAR was shit because after the war was solved in 2.0/2.1 it became like saturday morning cartoons.
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>>380692872
Famfrit is the streamer server and is not dead
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>>380692941
Quick Knock.
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What am I supposed to do for the next 5 hours
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>>380692870
They can't fix this community anon. You will DPS and you will like it.
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>>380692647

>implying anyone will be playing WHM except to be contrary or a Netflix healer
>implying they will be useful in PvP, if they play PvP at all

Anon, please.
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>>380692798
Calling it right now

Tanks:
PLD
DRK

Healers:
AST
AST (Or a WHM if LB matters, which it won't)

Dps:
SAM
NIN
BRD
DRG/BLM
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>>380692750
>15%
>120sec cd
lol
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>>380692941
they still got quick nock
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>>380692836
Source on pic?
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>>380692459
>mfw PLD got buffed times infinity and a got baller-ass new sprint animation but I've spent too much time on the other side to be smug so I'll just be chill instead
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>>380692961
we might not solve the war in the Ala Mhigo dungeon, mind you
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>nerfed abyssal drain

why?
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>>380691063
>drinking red bull constantly

Are they a sponsor or something or is Yoshi trying to kill himself?
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>>380692960
Show me where xeno said this. I was going to switch to rdm with how hard smn was nerfed
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>>380692305
>riddle of fire
>tornado kick still eat the stacks whill geiskogull don't with Botd
It's unfair.
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>>380692997
Sleep.
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>>380693021
>implying that matters outside of world first races
>implying the raid that will be asier than Creator will last longer than a day
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>all these retards think MCH is done
>they can't into math
MCH has literally twice the potency/second of pretty much everything else.
>>
man i need a better job and a better so fast. my tower is like 9 years old by the point. might as well by a pro and a tv
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>>380693094
Because FUCK YOU
PLD KING
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>>380693021
DRG is pretty much auto-include because of Dragon Sight and Battle Litany
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>>380693009
That Holy spam with thin air+PoM and the assize spam with lillies is gonna be hella strong for dungeons, especially with every job getting cucked on aoe.
>>
Jenga!
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>>380691015
Yeah man we all know exactly how the meta is going to function despite literally no one in this thread having actually played with any of the changes yet outside of MAYBE a few people who played it for 5 minutes at E3
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>>380693138
I'd shit my pants if they pulled another A3S. Seeing the raid community cry is the best thing.
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>>380693138
>easier than creator
>made by the guy who made savage second coil and savage midas
>yoshi's been quoted saying O4S will be harder than a12s
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>>380692997
I'm still debating on my main. I wanna go dps for the endgame stuff but going astrologian speeds up the tome farming a lot
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>>380693096
Yoshi has been on a carefully controlled diet of nothing but Red Bull and cigarettes since he was put in charge of XIV. At this point if he stops drinking it, he turns to dust.
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>>380692462
>Anon's Sister
Are you one of those faggotronics who go around pretending to be a girl in Idyllshire, or are you somebody's actual sister?
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>>380693168
Don't forget the piercing debuff.
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>>380693184
How is BLM cucked on AoE?
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>>380693009
Well whm is cucked in pvp too since they don't have repose any more.
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>>380691740
SCH offer nothing that an AST can't do better.
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>>380692884
Don't they just need to be more useful than SCH though?

I thought SCH got nerfed to shit too.
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What weapons do SAM and RDM start with?
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>>380693021
It's going to be:

PLD/DRK
AST/SCH
SAM/NIN/DRG/BRD
>>380692916
AST and PLD being made ridiculously good doesn't mean that WAR and SCH aren't still ridiculously good. Yes, they got nerfed, but SCH's nerfs are still fairly minimal overall and WAR probably still has a ton of DPS going for it.
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>>380693370
>SCH
see>>380693348
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>>380693184
>Dungeons
>Lilies

Why would you ever use Cure in Dungeons?
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>>380692872
Hey I'm on there too. Need any help
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>>380693334
everyone is cucked on AoE, respect da contentu
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>>380693184
DRG, PLD, and NIN got straight upgrades to their AOE, and SAM seems pretty strong in that department too
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Why do certain jobs get the AoE damage dropoff while others don't?
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>>380693026
Combined with DRG buff easy 30%
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>>380693360
Rumor has it they start with a Katana and Rapier, respectively.
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>>380693184

Yes, I will be King of Dungeon Healers. And shit at everything else.

Sorry Anon I will be doing PvP, but not as WHM. Ask an AST to buff you into an unstoppable monster with on-demand adlo crits and 40% increased damage instead.
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man dark knight got FUCKED.
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Are they releasing any more patches or can I sleep?
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>>380693450
Big pulls? ding dong bennu
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>>380693481
Fucking bullshit.
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>>380693519
This, I want to know too.
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>>380693070
you're way too chill after being bullied by DPS wannabe's for 9 patches and one expansion

>>380692459
pic related
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>>380693348
I know everyone likes memeing about AST's shields, but spamming them on AST is just a waste of GCDs made up by SCH's overpowered fairy that allow the SCH to dish out lots of DPS that were otherwise wasted with a double AST.
Not only that, Balance is still locked behind RNG and your limit break will die if you bring one. SCH's are so melodramatic, christ
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RDM and SAM starting at 50 means I can finally have an excuse to finish up beast tribe dailies
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>>380692872
>on famfrit
I am also on senpaifrit
We're pretty middle of the line, but you gotta look for help. We're also not dead, it's just like this right now because everyone is in hibernation.
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>>380693348
?
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>>380693453
Some jobs are better at disrespecting the content than others.
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>only O N E 61-70 skill is tied to a job quest
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>380693143
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>>380693401
>Hurr SCH is bad
see
>>380693574
>>
>SMN main

Bane nerf is tough but I am sticking to my guns here.
>>
What do I pick for Role Actions now on SMN?

>Swiftcast
>Lucid Dreaming
>???
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>>380693519
>>380693559
Servers will be up when you're asleep.
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>>380693574
>overpowered fairy
>lost 50 potency
>lost 10% on illumination
Just wait as grorious yoshi-san brings down the nerf tetsubo to whispering dawn too.
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Been playing MNK since I started 2 years ago, and now I don't know what to do.
I'm scared of changing since all I've known is MNK. Won't we get some MNK only scenes in the MSQ?
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>>380691736
DRG main here the changes look fucking great
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>>380693360
Probably the i115 crafted
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Can someone explain what addoitional effects Enhanced Empyreal Arrow triggers?
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>>380693635
might be a typo
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>>380693632
NIN is pretty good when it comes to disrespecting and their AoE got pretty much doubled.
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>>380693617
Essential Dignity.
Which by the way, got buffed to 40 sec CD instead of 60sec.
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>>380693334

BLM new king of AoE. Imagine back to back Thunder 4 procs on high density mobs :)
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Been looking to get in to this game for a while, what are the min specs i should have for pc for it to run on high/ultra high. I can probably salvage my water cooling and thats about it outside of drives case and shit.
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Do I play on EU with NA ping or NA.
Why is finding a guild/people to play with so awful.
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>>380693617
due to the cooldown you can only use that once per aetherflow

it's ok but it's not wow sch is worth taking territory
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>>380693683
Swift, lucid, diversion, surecast, addle
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>>380693360
rumor is Ironworks
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>>380693519
Just sleep, anon. I wish I could.
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>>380693575
depends if 4.0 beast tribes are already in or coming later, i still have to finish fucking slyphs, fishmen and ifritbros since it was worthless by the time HW came around
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>>380693747
they can't make typos on every page anon
it's only on the lv70 skill
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>>380690218
How fucked is RDM?

It looked like alot of fun so hopefully it's not too trash
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>>380693743
Gives you stacks if you're singing army or wanderer. Resets bloodletter if you're singing mage's.
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>There is a 20% chance that party members are granted a Confession each time you heal their HP via Cure and Cure II.
>Confession Duration: 30s
>30s

How the fuck is this supposed to be useful? It obviously could not possibly function as an aoe heal under any feasible circumstances, and the probability of getting the full potency is shit.

All this is is an occasional weak tank heal which most of the time you won't even need. What a garbage level 70 skill.
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so when the fuck is this thing launching?
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>>380693574

SCH's OP fairy just got all its healing potencies and buffs smacked hard with the nerf bat. They're still better off than WHM since they got consolation prizes but let's not pretend that AST is "good enough" to fulfill WHM and SCH's role to the point where it renders both obsolete thanks to its own unique abilities.

SCH will still be taken along for Chain Stratagem, Selene buff, and so the LB bar actually fills at least.
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>>380693780
thunder IV proc is only 3% per tick though
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>>380693781
also cpu and power i have an cor i5 (2.7 ish)
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>>380693681
You really shouldn't. I'm a SMN main but I am going rdm or drg now

>only two dots instead of three
> misama 2 no longer an aoe,
>bane has a 80% potency nerf(Bio has a 40 potency with bane it's potency is now 8 which is nothing),
>aetherflow recovers 10% mp instead of 20,
>we lost blizzard 2,
>ruin 3 lost 50 potency
>ruin 4 has same potency as current ruin 3 but it's a proc
>bahamut only shows up two minutes after pull starts meaning you can't allign your damage with other party buffs
>after that bahamut will only show up once every two minutes
>shadow flare is now an ocd you can use every 60 seconds so you can't place another one down as soon as it ends
>can not use aetherflow abilities in dwt
>tri-disasterbuffs ruin 3 but still less potency overall

Bane isn't our only nerf
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>>380693768
It's the Doman expansion, so they decided to give NINs some extra love.
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DRG confirmed forgettable
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>>380693348
SCH offer afk farming
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>>380693747
Yoshi already said in some previous liveletter that only level 70 skills are tied to job quests.

You get the rest from just leveling.
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>>380693885

Yes that's why its an AoE skill, not single target. 3% per mob ticking every second.
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>>380693876
5hrs
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>>380693770

Essential Dignity was always 40s once you got the trait for it (and that was pretty early too). They just got rid of the trait to make it 40s at all levels.
>>
>early access starts tomorrow
>work pretty much all day friday saturday and sunday
fuck everyone there
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>>380693948
well that's dumb, I want to learn how to summon a frog from best boy
>>
what a bunch of ass hats, making us wait fucking 5 AM EST what the fuck were they thinking? launch the shit at midnight not when nobody is fucking awake
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>>380693879
>selene buff
>not whispering dawn
nigga
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>>380693998
>>380693635
he gives you gear instead
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>>380693997
I work weekends too

I took the weekend + more time off though for SB.
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>>380694008
shut up gaijin
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>>380693926
You don't understand. I am sticking to my main. I will try other jobs of course, but SMN is my main.
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>>380693708
>Lost 50 fairy** potency, akin to 30 real potency
>Lost 10% on an overpowered skill to begin with in exchange for fucking 20% on all of the SCH's heals

Do SCH mains ignore the fact that the tradeoff for their fairy nerfs are the fact their actual healing got better?

Even with the fairy nerfs, it's still GCD free, MP free, and ~25% stronger than Regen. And it's always casting, has a free AoE healing buff and AoE heal.
All of which can save a shitload of GCDs and transform them into damage.
Oh, and Stratagem exists, but yeah, SCH is totally dead because AST can meme shield. Give me a fucking break
>>
When people say that Gordias permanently damaged the raiding scene, is it an exaggeration?
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>>380691713
Ivon Coeurlfist, not Rhalgr. He will be a boss at the end of the monk dungeon, the Temple of the Fist.
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>>380693770
It was always 40 seconds with the trait that asts have at level 28, so all the time. They just removed the trait and made it 40 seconds by default. At least know what you're talking about before whining
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>>380694098
>their actual healing got better?
In what way? Literally, which skill? I saw nothing but nerfs and MP cost increases.
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>>380694098
>adlo mp increases
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>>380693879
>>380694016
what selene buff?
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>>380694016
Not him but, I like to use selene buff wile summoning eos before a pull
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>>380694105
While it was a shit raid, Creator did more damage to the raiding scene than Gordias ever did. People who have no business raiding will start crying the second the content gets slightly harder.
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>>380694163
The 3% reduction of CDs (lol)
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>>380694145
he's referring to Divine Seal being a role ability
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>>380694105
nope. people and yoshi himself are permanently scarred from a3s.
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>>380694105
No. People literally stopped playing and statics were dropping like flies
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>>380693943
I liked the Pre-HW DRG story.
Disliked teaching some dumb bitch about how to DRG in HW, liked the fact you're already the best at DRG so nobody is trying to teach you shit.
>Would like a solo/buddy up with Estinien to learn together.
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>>380694072
SMN was my main it was my main for three years. These changes have finally made me decide to give it up as we are now worthless
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>>380694214
oh i thought they were implying selene was buffed from the changes which she isn't
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>>380694227
That's stupid and he's stupid
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>>380694058
I would've liked to do this but we're short handed. Work as a delivery driver and we only have two other ones, one of them won't work past 2 pm on saturday and absolutely will not work sunday. The other one has planned having this sunday off for a long time for family related stuff so i'm stuck from open to close on sunday.
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>>380694168
That's literally the only way to do it. Whispering dawn and fey illumination are just too good of free non-gcd heals to pass up. the gcds you save for using those free ones and spend on dps outweigh the 3% speed
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>>380694145
Largesse, nigger. That's a 20% increase that didn't exist for you before. AST and WHM got stripped of it so you could have it.
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>>380694130
oh shit, the sphairai guy? that's pretty cool
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>>380694292
excellent argument
>>
Will dungeons be fun?
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>>380694279
God, the 58 quest was so amazing.
>three egis at once
>meditating on motherfucking bahamut while fighting the egis off
>that arena
I can only hope that the 70 quest is anywhere near as awesome.
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Wasn't that shit 20% at some point?
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>>380694292
>That's stupid
Not an argument, retard. SCH gains actual healing potency buffs that didn't exist before in exchange for nothing, seeing as all they lost was some mitigation that all of the other healers lost as well. Are you retarded?
>>
Fuck it, I'm going astrologian. At least this way I don't need to rustle my jimmies over non dpsing healers.
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>>380694279
Hai-hai did the math a while back and single target summoner damage didn't go down. The biggest number change was just to AoE, which summoner was only good at because of bane.

But holy fuck is it going to be boring spamming ruin 2 and 3 all fucking day.
>>
Y'all need to calm down
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Ok so I heard PLD will be good but will it actually be fun to play?

I dropped it in HW because Lv50 PLD put me to sleep how boring it was.
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>>380691061
how do he see fishy
>>
>>380694421

Not after the novelty of seeing new corridors of trash interspersed with easy boss fights wears off.
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>>380693943
Here's more or less what the job class quests will be about
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>>380691736
Read for yourself nigga

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/dragoon/
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>>380694105
Overtuned to hell since everyone complained from coil being too hard then too easy

It was boring especially 2 and 4

3s was the wall that broke every static

and basically everyone just gave up
so no, it wasn't an exaggeration, gordias almost killed raiding altogether
>>
Give it to me bros. Is MNK still raid worthy or are statics going to laugh at me
>>
>>380694443
The media tour tooltip said it decreased damage by 20% when overheated
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>>380694509
seems like it might just be
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>>380694421
Sure hope so. Dungeons in 3.0 are SO FUCKING BORING. Literally a "/follow <t>" the tank until you found mobs, killed them and continue doing the same.
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>>380693770
>Adlo (at least 300 potency) + Excog (650) + Precasted Emergency Adlo (600) + Lustrate (600) + Embrace (250) = 2400 Potency of Mitigation + Burst

>Aspected Benefic (500 Shield) + Precasted Benefic II (650) + Essential Dignity (400-900 Poteny) = 1550 - 2050 Poteny of Mitigation + Burst

Please ignore that both of these are horrible overhealing in almost every situation and you will probably never do this.
>>
>>380694509

It actually got better in HW- more variations on your 1-2-3 combo really helped. And it's getting better in SB.

Livin the fantasy with Passage of Arms, aww yeah.
>>
When the patch notes say that EXP awarded from msqs and job quests have been increased, does that mean I'll probably level up when I log in? I just started, I'm a lv 42 monk.
>>
My primary complaint about SMN was that they were basically a 'dungeon job' because of all the aoe.

But now their aoe is shit and single target damage is still not as good as BLM either? Why do they do shit like this?
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>>380694610
You forgot to take into account the 15% healing potency of Nocturnal stance.
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>>380694535
>NIN
OUR EXPANSION, BAY-BEE
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>>380694412
>>380694457
>I-ITS NOT A NERF WE'RE STILL GOOD
calm down and just change classes like I am
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>>380694670

Doesn't count for quests you've already done. But you'll level up faster as you continue on.
>>
>>380694421

Hopefully with the nerfs to all AoE dungeons might have less trash and be more fun...
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>>380694431
When smn deathflared those three ascians I got goosebumps. Hope the bahamut egi does something as cool
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>>380694509
Go to PotD, floors 51-60.
4.0 gameplay is basically the level 60 gameplay, but with a "cast thunder out of your sword > spam holy for 12sec" burst phase and actually useful defensive stuff.
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>>380694160
>having MP problems when lucid dreaming, aetherflow and energy drain are things
>>
>>380694597
>in 3.0

That's literally every dungeon, it's not just a 3.0 thing. Dungeons in XIV are complete ass and always have been. Which is why dropping to 1 and supplementing new types of content is a much better deal than 2 shitty dungeons every patch
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Who /omega/ here?
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>>380694742

SE will only take notice and admit they fucked up if everyone stops playing SCH and WHM and goes for AST instead. Especially when Omega comes out.
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>>380694742
Not
an
argument
retard
>>
Ah fuck it I'm going to sleep/
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>>380694821
>aetherflow is 10%
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>>380694821
>energy drain
Isn't that about 800 MP? less than could be saved by using that stack of aetherflow for literally anything else?
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>>380694535
>Tonberrys
were tonberrys part of the normal SCH quests?
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>>380694709
Yes, I also didn't take into account Rouse, Illumination, Whispering Dawn and Divine Seal.

Really that post is meaningless, it was just a bit of fun.
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>>380694574
Honestly MNKs damage will be fine. The biggest problem is Riddle of Fire feeling like shit to use.
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>>380694920
844 MP lvl 60.
Bear in me that it gave back 264 MP lvl 50.

Energy drain MP regen is based on your level.
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>>380694928
Yes.

SCH quests are nothing but TONBERRYTONBERRYTONBERRYTONBERRYTONBERRYTONBERRY and more TONBERRY
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>>380694869
4chan isn't a place for arguments you daft shit. It's a place to shitpost and bitch.
>>
>3.0
>Picked up AST
>Ran through every dungeon starting from 15 and up so I could learn the class in context and build up muscle memory

>Want to do the same for RDM
>Just realized DPS dungeon queues are going to make this the biggest fucking drag

Fuck what do I do
>>
>>380694764

Aw man. Hopefully I can reach 50 soon.
>>
>>380694963
Well counting is not fair.
AST can't shield without Nocturnal stance, can it?
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>>380695037
Do that in like a month
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LEVEL BOOST AND STORY SKIP PAGE

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/tales_of_adventure/
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> Blood Price only works in Grit
> Bloodspiller 650 potency when Dark Arts + Grit
> Blackest Night gives a free Bloodspiller when broken
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>>380694928

Yes, you do a lot of talking and researching with one in particular.
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>>380695075
counting those is not fair*
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>>380694776
Can't beat an Akh Morn.
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So am i the only one who feels unsure about the changes to pvp?
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>>380695098
And if it doesn't break? You just wasted 50 BG
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Which melee DPS do you guys think is going to be the best?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13202918
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what did they mean by this
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>>380695154
No, I am too.
PVP lost a lot of debt and general burst.
It suck, but I'll still give it a try.
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>>380695037
PotD to 60, then FATES (4.0 FATEs have bonuses that give gud exp) while on leveling queue to 70.
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>>380694535
WAR will have the best class quests confirmed!
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>>380695151
They're the same thing
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>>380695154
MNK is broken. They will take casters down to 1 hp with one action.
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>>380695241
Obviously a leftover number when they tried to design it to be a tank :^)
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>>380694535
>more tonberry stuff
>ASTs are weebs
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>>380695215
best how? Because SAM, NIN, and DRG are all looking pretty great right now.
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>>380695241
last minute changes/mistake
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>>380692305
Yoshi just needs to remove the Pierce synergy between DRG and BRD and DRG will get dropped easy. I don't know why he hasn't done this and let range do their own debuff, since he likes to casualize the game and make everything self-sufficient. I think we need to go spam the OF so he does this for 4.1. Outside of that Brotherhood and Riddle of Fire look like they give MNK good raid synergy now.
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>>380695083
Still think this shit is disgusting. But NA faggots are gonna cry cry cry till XIV resembles WoW in every little aspect.
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>>380695314
That was edited pic breh.
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>>380695302
NOOOOOOOOOOOPE
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Next patch is up. Load it up and get to sleep.
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>>380695267
>PotD to 60

But I feel like I won't actually learn anything going through PotD. The reason I like going through dungeons in order is so I can add 1-2 skills at a time each sequential dungeon and build up muscle memory over time

Starting with a full kit is too much for my small brain to handle
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>>380692525
>misinformation faggots trying to get less people to play their class
kys yourself tobqh famil
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>level boost doesn't come with accesories

top kek prepare to run leveling dungeons with your entire group with no right side equipped
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>>380695395
yeah, but it's smart of SE to take advantage, sadly.

though i think i'm more disgusted by the story skip potion...
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>wanted yoshi to give WHM a reason to be in raids
>yoshi murdered SCH instead of buffing WHM

this isnt what i wanted guys. Im so sorry
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So going off pure fun factor, which is more fun: MNK or NIN
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>>380695241
Manawall 2.0

>Get your 3 Sen ready and buff up
>OH SHIT GROUND AoE's!
>Yell at healer to give you a shield
>Pop Third Eye
>720 Potency in exchange for 90% of your HP

Well worth it mate.
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>>380695436
Button it's 8am anon and I just woke up
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>>380694970
during that time you will get a lot of forbidden chakras (maybe since its rng) to try and weave in with your slowed down gcd but I will still miss b4b dearly
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>>380695363

Just overall. (dungeons, raiding, solo content)
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>>380695459
Start with PotD's floors 1-50, then.
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>>380695519
Nevermind, I'm a retard. I didn't even see the updated tooltip under the leak.
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>>380695374
Dragon's Gaze is a pretty surefire way to get a pick if SAM is actually as good as it seems
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>>380695459
Red Mage is pretty simple. Balance your mana as equally as you can while giving one side a small advantage. Use your procs when they proc. When your mana is 80 or above, blow your load on the melee combo.
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>>380692310
This won't really increase the amount of times you use Forbidden THAT much.

MNK still got all around Potency nerfs while NIN and DRG got buffs
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>>380695491
>story skip potion

They should have just cut the fat from the 2.x patches in general and makint it a lot more bearable that way. But that would be work, I suppose.
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>>380693308

Gonna DRK main and play SAM in the offtime
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>>380695436
I woke up this morning and only downloaded one update so far, I forgot how big it was. It's around 9:40pm pst and still no other update.
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>>380695571
>adloquiOOM
made me laugh, thanks
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>>380695510
NIN by a mile
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>>380694764
how much more will it get increased?
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JUST A REMINDER THAT DOUBLE AST WILL BE THE BEST RAID COMPOSITION AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT
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>>380693510

How so?
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>>380695436
I can't download it.

Do I have to delete cache or some shit?
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>>380695683
It was 6.1 GB. One 2.4 and one 4.6 GB patch. The 2.4 is for people who haven't purchased SB and the 4.6 is SB in its whole.
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isnt souleater nerfed hard? why would they do that so randomly
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>>380695754

REMINDER THAT IF YOU'RE POSTING IN THIS THREAD THEN THE META DOESN'T APPLY TO YOU ANYWAY
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>>380693094
Source this shit
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>>380695791
That's a pretty common issue but unfortunately it looks like you're going to need a fresh install.
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>>380695754
I don't you understand just how fucking important those three little yellow bars are to progression
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>>380695571
It's because SCH has Aetherflow at 10% and Lucid Dreaming. It's still a retarded change, though.

AST has LD + CO, which provides the same as SCH does. AST has much lower MP costs on spells, but SCH gets tons of free AoE heals and Embraces from the fairy, so it evens out.

WHM comes out on top in terms of MP regen this time around.
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>>380695527
>NIN loses B4B, IR, and Venoms
>gets potency increases across the board and damage increase traits
>MNK loses B4B
>potency decreases
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>>380695842
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/darkknight/
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>>380693940

>It's the Ninja and samurai expansion.
>Even in Gyr Abania they have to share it with RDM

Hell technically in the lore
>due in great part to the influence of the proud lancer legions of Ala Mhigo
>lancer legions of Ala Mhigo
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BLM OR RDM PLS HELP I CANT DECIDE OVER BIG DICK DPS OR MUH UTILITY
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did they make selene worth using yet?
i only found her usefull in a very small number of fights
and even then it was mostly for the instant party wide esuna
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>>380695395
>Blaming WoW

wew
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>>380695754
FRIENDLY REMINDER IF YOU BELIEVE THIS GARBAGE YOU HAVE NEVER RAIDED SERIOUSLY BEFORE AND SHOULD NECK YOURSELF
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>AST and SCH are now neck to neck in terms of action count
unf
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>>380692661
So if we assume 25% crit (really random number someone give me a better guess) on mnk and two bootshines every 3 rotations.
In 3 rotations we have 9 hits. 2/9 are auto crit. 25% of the 7 gives us almost 2 more crits so about 2 chakras/9 weapon skills. That's a 100 potency gain from 9 weapon skills. But every MNK weapon skill lost 10 potency so that works out to a 10 potency lost kek. Then we still have animation delay on Forbidden Chakra thus reducing your damage boost from Forbidden Chakra and Brotherhood even further. Also crit was nerfed this patch so who knows if going crit will help MNK.

kek
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>>380695670
I think they should've given some thought into getting players into the game before the completion of the MSQ before it became an issue after 2.x. As it is, a new player is expected to do around 500 quests before stepping into current endgame content, assuming SB has another 100 quests for the story again. Although there's a lot wrong with PotD, one of its big strengths is that it gives a way for both new and old players to play together and both receive some reward/benefit, whereas raids and such are locked behind quests.
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>All these shitters crying about "muh meta"
>Meanwhile it's already been stated
>EXPLICITLY
>by none other than the game DIRECTOR
>that half
>HALF
>FIFTY FUCKING PERCENT
>of your party's dps isn't even taken into account when determining boss HP/enrage timers
>You can have "pure healer" whm and flash-only pld and still clear


Any comp can clear any content. The only time "meta comps" matter is if you're a world first fflogs checking shitter, who nobody likes anyway, and who can't figure out why the only FCs they can get into are made of pure concentrated autism. Then they come here crying about

>muh SICK DEEPS
>yoshi is a fucking hack
>bloo bloo this class does slightly more damage than mine
>but you can't make them the same or it's boring


And then you wonder why cunts like mr no-job-stone exist

Know what I'm doing tomorrow? I'm not worrying about "muh world-first raidan" and I'm not worrying about speedrunning. I'm not poopsocking to the end of the expansion, just to complain about how little content there is. I'm just going to log in, go see little Alphy, and start having FUN with my FRIENDS. Yeah, FRIENDS. Those things you metafag doomsayers don't have.
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>>380696004
RDM will probably be more fun.
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>>380696004
BLM also has utility desu
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>>380696004
I want to fuck that white cat.
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>>380695459
Simple combos:

Cycle back and forth between using White mana attacks (Aero, Stone) and Black Mana attacks (Thunder, Fire)

The basic combo is Jolt -> Veraero/Verthunder. You'll have a 50% chance to proc Stone/Fire Ready. If it does, instead of casting Jolt, you cast Verstone/Verfire. If it doesn't proc, you instead use Impact instead of Jolt, which procs guaranteed from casting it.

Once your gauges are above 80(?), and one is slightly higher than the other, you use your gap closer, spam your 1-2-3 melee combo which is enhanced in exchange for meter, and then finish off with Verholy (if black mana is higher) or Verflare (if white is higher). The mana imbalance is important because it guarantees that Stone/Fire Ready procs so you can go back to your casting combo with Verstone/Fire
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I need your opinions because I have no other friends to play this game with.

I haven't bought this expac yet but im on the fence. I've only played this game solo because all of my real friends hate the "shitty and slow" combat.

If I buy the expansion right now do I get my early access code right away?

I feel that if I dont ride the wave of new players, Im not going to be able to group up with people to do new content with.

Im such a loner when it comes to MMOs
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>>380693360
i70
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I bet the new dungeons will be full of tons of trash and annoying pulls after the big aoe nerfs all around, just so Yoshi can laugh at everyone forced to respect the content.
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>>380695810
SE got a potency buff to compensate the death of Delirium, but the HP drain effect got nerfed hard (it will probably work like SS's MP drain now). I guess they want to give you more reasons to DA on SS and SE instead of focusing on one of them.
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>>380695083
>no currency icon plastered to nametag
reeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>380696004
big dick DPS is the clear answer, utility is a retarded meme that nobody except a dozen fflogs autists and the armchair meta shitposters care about
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>>380696008
With leeches now being an esuna that can be gained for any low level dungeon, there's even less reason to take her.

Silence still never works

The 3% cooldown reduction is still worthless compared to aoe increasing magic defence + aoe increasing healing potencies
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>>380693021
>BLM
More like BLMAO, neck yourself cuck
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>>380696086
Notice how everyone that has their job buffed to heaven says everything is fine
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>>380695984
What the flying fuck is going to be left of my fucking job when I log in at EA. Fucking Square Enix Yoshi you fucking nigger faggot jap shit, two nukes weren't enough. Guess there's no choice but to play PLD or kill myself
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>>380696062
They could very simply make most of the 2.x content NPC duties. As it stands now Castrum is a millstone around SE's neck that needs to be kept relevant, otherwise people will be simply stuck, unable to continue.
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Time to fantasia into different race for the expansion

0:hyur
1-3:c@
4-6: lala
7-9: giraffe
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I can't decide

I wanted to pay RDM since 1.0 but people saying it's shit, and the fact they share gear with SMN/BLM means anything outside their AF gear they'll look stupid dashing around in wizard robes.

I mained SCH and they're getting nerfed apparently.

And then PLD is buffed? but last time I played it in 2.0 it was boring as shit. But I like tank gear and PLD AF3 looks dope as fuck.

What do i pick bros
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Reminder that world first groups didn't use meta optimal comps to clear gordias Midas and creator so play whatever the fuck you want
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>>380696198
the kind of utility fflogs autists care about are muh raidwide deeps boosts, but there are other kinds of utility
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>>380696210
i wonder how that one scholar quest will work now
will it literally tell you to take esuna to cleanse the dudes
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>>380696305
Might as well
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>>380696153

Yes if you purchase Stormblood before the 20th you get an early access code. I play this game solo too & I have been able to complete all the content. Same shit with every MMO's except this one people have to talk nicely because harassment is taken super seriously. (Japs don't fck around)
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>>380696210
>Silence still never works

Actually she'll silence shit you didn't even know you could silence before you have a chance to do anything. not that it's anything you should rely on but whatever

Have you ever noticed when fighting Ifrit, he'll do his plumes but they'll instantly be cancelled? That's Selene jabbing him the fucking throat.
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>>380695876
you dont need lb when you get double balance up time and four samurai
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>Have to play five hours of POTD to get to 60 on my SAM.

O well
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>>380696304
Castrum is indeed an issue entirely unto itself, but really, just adding in new MSQ 8 man dungeons would be fine.
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>>380696175
>big aoe nerfs all around
>NIN and DRG get huge aoe buffs
>PLD actually gets aoe now
>SAM exists
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>>380696316
You're actually letting /v/ get to you. That's just sad.
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>>380696039
>The character lock immediately after execution has been adjusted.
Hopefully Forbidden Chakra isn't DRG tier anymore.
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>>380694535
>DRK
>upped the quality further
best job story gets even better? impossibru
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>>380696242
My job stayed roughly where it was.

I'm just stating the simple fact that, if nothing else, SE can balance any role for any content. It might take a try or two, but give it a couple patches and everything will eventually even out.
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>>380696324
doesn't excuse dumb job design you cock sucking fag
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>>380696086
>HALF
>FIFTY FUCKING PERCENT
>of your party's dps isn't even taken into account when determining boss HP/enrage timers
>You can have "pure healer" whm and flash-only pld and still clear

This is all considering 'optimal ilvl'. going in bare bones for that day one absolutely requires it. At least I don't have to meld accuracy anymore
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>>380696305
reroll please
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>>380696324
Nobody here is good enough for it to matter, but they'll just pretend they are top raiders, shun certain classes out of their groups, and then complain when they haven't cleared Omega savage until echo is added
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>>380696430

Honestly for an entire expansion of WAR gloating I don't give a shit that they aren't #1 anymore.

Were they even nerfed at all or was it just "I didn't get as many nice toys as PLD I just got 1-2 more cleaves?"
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>>380696316
Test both PLD and RDM on PotD, then pick one.
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So what tank is going to be the most fun to play? I don't care about meta.
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>>380696328
Raising a whole party does sound pretty cool
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>>380696402
you're still looking at 6-8 hours to be honest
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>>380696520
I'm taking in the sch/war salt. they were too fucking annoying and cocky every god damn one of them.
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>>380696425
even DRG isn't DRG tier anymore
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>>380696412
8 man dungeons would be fine if they were more than

A) cutscenes upon cutscenes (already pretty much outdated now)
and
B) Run to X as fast as possible

like give us dungeons that require the party to split up for some shit just like an alliance would.
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>>380696334
Either that or they'll forget to change it. One of the guildhests (the one with the sylph) still tells your healer to use esuna despite leeches/exalted detriment potentially being their cleanse. Granted, that's now no longer an issue.
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>>380696417
Let's not forget

>AST has delayed AoE heal/damage
>WAR can decimate six fucking times
>DRK actively gets stronger against more enemies thanks to quietus and blackest night
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>>380696402
>five hours
Hope you've got a group ready or else your looking at double that with pugs.
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>>380696417
I dont even know what is going on anymore, I thought casters were supposed to be AoE kings yet we get nerfed while melee gets buffed aoes.
>>
why is this not AoE?
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>>380696086
Hey Faggots,
My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.
Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than “jack off to naked drawn Japanese people”? I also get straight A’s, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
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>>380691736
I dont play DRG, but the competent ones do a lot of damage, and it looks like you're just getting an upped version of your damage mechanic, which looks good
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>>380696549
Do you want to be:
>holy crusader
>angry, angry about rocks
>edgelord
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>>380696652
Because it's supposed to replace Stone 1 and Stella's heavy.
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Do the new job starting quests give you appropriate gear? I want to play RDM, but I literally don't have any casting gear on me at all
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>>380696620
>cucksters left with no aoe, no utility, and shit for mobility
IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>380696602
The beginning of A7 was pretty neat and something I would like to see in a dungeon.
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>>380691286
>>380691830
A Japanese Interview stated that both Doma and Ala Mhigo will be liberated in 4.0 and that 4.1 on wards is about the aftermath.
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>>380696704
but miasma 2's?
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>>380696602
8 man dungeon where each person starts in a different location and needs to reconvene fucking when?
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>>380696756
Lost it's heavy, so it replace it too.
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>>380690536
Why cant we play as garleans? They could just put it as a clan under hyur
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>>380696697

I started playing this game a couple of months ago and I thought DRK's look fun to play but everyone called them edge lords so I never bothered to try it. I feel like I missed out on an awesome class =/
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>>380696549
I unironically enjoy PLD since forever

WAR is fun too, i love DRK too because i have a fetish for oversized swords and they have a "Reduce cooldowns!" skill

play whatever is more visually appealing to you
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>>380696792
probably not until 5.0 or whenever we actually get into ilsabard
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>>380696747
T11 did it first
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>>380690701
>Ogre/Oni Club

Wtf i love DRK now
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>>380696710
The 3 heavensward ones gave you weapon, chest, and legs.
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>>380696792
We get that nice ass new uniform somewhere. Probably during the Main quest line while infiltrating again.
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>>380696316
>SCH getting nerfed

fucking christ think for yourself, SCH's healing will be fine, it's only their aoe damage that took a nerf bat hit
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>>380696602
That'd be pretty great really. Unfortunately, most of the MSQ dungeons seem to be made for the clinically retarded.

There does need to be a solution to cutscenes though. I'm going to sit and watch them my first time in a dungeon even if it annoys everyone else there, and I have no qualms with other new guys watching them either. They need to find a way to convey some content without shifting in to cutscene mode and reserve them for the very start of the dungeon and the very end.
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>>380696790
M2 was AoE though, which was nice for when the tank does a big pull and you can heavy the dudes while he's booking it.
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>>380696620
>play a caster
>get a melee dps in strombola
>now he can push the shitty trash pulls just as well as i do
why this is a bad thing again?
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>>380696602
>>380696747
>>380696760

1.0 did this

Heck, all of 1.0's dungeons were far more unique than any ARR's to be honest
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>>380696892
They nerfed adlos mp cost too. No more fishing for crits
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>>380696590
Sounds like a highschooler that finally got fed up with the bullying instead of ignoring it
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>>380696305
are we getting a free fantasia with the expansion? I thought i heard that mention long ago but haven't seen anything about it
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>>380696918

>Strombola

Ahhh it's too fucking late for me to be getting hungry fuck you. And I don't know who does a good stromboli around here.
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>>380690316
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylyqoxh-cXk

I'm going to blast this shit on a loop while I grind my way to 70 as a SAM.
>>
How much utility would the mp transfer thing be for blm? could that count as extra damage if you use it to extend the bards foe's requiem?
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>>380696153
The big thing about this MMO is that people will run old content. There's collections of dungeons and trials (think boss battles) called roulettes. You get bonus exp, gil, and tomestones (think valor in WoW, I suppose) for doing each roulette each day. Players sync down to an appropriate level and gearscore for older content. This means that while levelling, you'll have more than enough people to run your dungeons with. It's really easy to get up to max level. The game throws exp at you, so if you run your roulettes and do your main story quest, you have no excuse to not be levelling.

Consider: After two weeks, and with taking time off to RP, I hit 50 in less than two weeks. That's with minimal to no grinding at all, aside from main story.
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>>380697003
The only times you get "free" fantasias is HW collectors edition and your first 30 day sub reward
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>>380696808
DRK is more like being batman with a bit of black magic thrown in instead of high tech gadgets. You're willing to do whatever it takes to mete out justice, channeling your hatred and disdain for the wicked as a weapon against those who would strike the innocent.
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>>380696697
>Not going full Oni with the club
m8
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>>380696930
1.0 also had a decent story and gave you time to bond with your companions instead of playing the "WHOS GONNA DIE NEXT, DO YOU ALREADY FEEEEEL SAAAAAD?" game.

Seriously, the asspull with Yda only pretending to be retarded is so fucking bad and will not get me to care for the postergirl of this expac.
>>
Not very experienced with materia stuff, but how well off would I be melding INT V on RDM gear? I have several from PotD the past week and thought about going nuts when I hit cap.

>>380696710
If it's like the past, you'll just get handed the weapon and jobstone, then possibly an upgraded weapon every few job quests.

>>380696760
Never, since healers and lazy tanks will complain, as well as others that aren't prepared.

They can make great content like the Halloween event where it's more about stealth and communication, but it falls flat when the community just wants to manhandle all the content.

>>380697040
Potentially, due to how fast BLM regains MP while in Umbral.
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>>380696808
If you like their aesthetic, may as well play it. The edginess of it isn't done in a way it's interesting rather than coldsteel the hedgehog tier cringey.

Nobody's gonna judge you for playing it, they're a pretty damn popular job. Same way I don't assume every bard is a hippie, every astrologian is a gypsy romanian, and that every ninja is a weeaboo.

Unlocking the job isn't a big investment and you can run a few roulettes to see how you like it (or POTD 50-60 to try out most of the endgame playstyle)
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>>380696892
Their damage overall took a nerf

>no cleric stance
>Only has Bio II and Miasma (Doesn't get Bio III and Miasma III, which are SMN exclusive)
>Bane Nerfed
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>>380693096
To celebrate Red Mage of course

Nah, but he probably works those japanese hours is why
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>>380696273
OF babies cried DRK was too hard.
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>>380696697
ANGRY ABOUT ROCKS
FUCKING ROCKS IN DISGUISE REEEE
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>>380694920
Energy drain recovery got nerfed.
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>>380690218
>Read job guide
>Basically no improvements to WHM except increased chance to proc lillies
>SCH's crit buff was reduced from 20 to 15%
>AST didn't get nerfed at all from the media tour build, except for Earthly Spirit having its potency reduced by a measly 10-20%.
AST is now better than both other healers in nearly every imaginable way. AST/AST meta here we go. Who cares about limit break gauge when you can have 90-100% Balance uptime.
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>>380697150
I fucked up the grammar on the first sentence. I meant to say the edginess is done in a way that's interesting rather than being coldsteel cringey
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>>380693094
Hm? Seems like only its HP restoration was nerfed, and we don't know by how much. Still does the same damage.
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>>380697146
Currently, all gear is already capped on Main stats. Meaning you cant meld Attributes (STR, VIT, etc.) to your accessories that are already on it.

You can meld something ELSE, like MND on INT gear, but you'd never want to do that. Tanks used to meld STR to VIT gear and vice versa but they were the only ones to do so (With small exceptions to DPS melding VIT for hardcore world first raid progression.).

For you, no INT on RDM gear happening.
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>>380691713
Well he got them DBZ wrist bands so he prolly punches stuff

Likely it is Rhalgr
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>>380697204
Fuck the OF they are the same smug niggerfaggots who cry because casting a damage spell in downtime as a healer is too hard

FUCK THEM ALL WHAT THE FUCK
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>>380696697
The 30-50 DRK Questline is still the best in the game. Prove me wrong. Protip you can't
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I can't sleep.
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>>380697420
Why would anybody even try to?
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>>380697068
Do I have to be subbed for 30 days to get it or does it come with the first 30 day subscription?
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>>380691763
>RDM rotation

Sorry to say my dragoon playing dude, but it is a priority system "rotation", it wont be clear cut like most other classes
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>>380697352
There was the bit like equipping VIT accessories and melding your main stat or something but considering that now even accessories are role locked, so no VIT accessories for anyone but tanks
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>>380695363
>SAM NIN DRG BRD mega buffs
>sharing of resistance-dropping abilities
>all 3 can boost SAM bick dick dps
>NIN is still strongest and also lowest CD raid damage buff
>DRG has self and single-target damage buff and boosts BRD damage
>BRD improves raid damage straight up and also have crit and direct hit buffs
Wow what fucking great raid comp versatility Yoshi, you're a master of balance.
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>>380697420
SMN 55 - 60 questline
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>>380697074
>>380697150

Fuck it, I'm going to try DRK after maintenance. I always wanted to try tanking and DRK looks like it suits me the most.
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>>380697463
As soon as you pay for your first 30 days you get it. The free month that comes with ARR doesn't count though.
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>>380690523
Obama is doing well in retirement I see
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>>380697550
yeah it's unabashedly edgy in the way that makes it unironically fun. the 50-60 questline sucks dicks though because it goes from "channeling the darkness in yourself" to "MUH IMOUTO"
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Are there ANY chance for server to come up earlier?

Can't remember what it's like in HW.
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>>380697530
maybe you can make your diaper baby comp of MNK RDM SMN BLM and see how that works out for you
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>>380697005
Fucking hell that look bloody delicious
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>>380697652
Are you 10?
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>>380697794
>not liking MUH IMOUTO
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>>380695839
>m-meta doesn't matter guys! i'm going to k-keep yelling at you guys to stop caring even though it doesn't matter tho, h-haha!
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>>380697807
No chance. It was on time for HW.
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>>380697013
>500 Samurai managed to wound 30 peasants with no military training before getting wiped out

Power Metal was a mistake.
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>>380697124

Yda's asspul made her even less appealing. If she had died back when the crystal braves betrayed then you could have felt a pang of something.

I don't know what the deal is because it's not as if all their writers are bad, Ysale/Estinien/Aymeric/Haurchefaunt were good. A lot of the job npc mentors were good.

>>380697530

I'm a little jelly the NIN keeps the 10% slash debuff and ours drops to 5% considering piercing only benefits DRG and BRD while Slash benefits PLD/WAR/NIN/SAM. Is monk piercing or slashing? Does it matter?
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>>380697880
Well she's not MY Imouto, so she can fuck off
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>>380697834
it'll probably work fine
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>>380694469
Hai-hai hasn't been relevent since HW started. We already know smn damage is fucked because we have raw numbers telling us so
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>>380697794
Literally nothing wrong with "MUH IMOUTO"
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>>380697794
Well except for the part where Sidurgu's confronted on how for much of the questline he's using "Protecting Rielle" simply as an excuse to indulge in bloody revenge.
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>>380697986
MNK is blunt

which is a big reason why it wasn't optimal since nothing else is blunt
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I haven't played in a while.

What's Palace of the Dead? How long would it take to go lv50-60 with it?
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>>380696520
No real nerfs, unless you count the whole "no more STR accessories rip tank damage" thing.

>Berserk is technically nerfed by 10%
>but it no longer pacifies

>bloodbath and second wind removed
>but you still have all the actually good abilities
>including the 1200 potency self-heal

Thing is, though, every class more or less stayed where it was. Like okay, DRG got some decent potency buffs, right? At the same time

>B4B is nerfed
>disembowel is nerfed
>geirskogul is now only spammable every 60s

so DRG damage stays roughly where it is, big-picture. That's the same for just about every class, too.

>rip DRK muh scourge is gone
>except now we get bloodspiller and quietus

>rip MNK forbidden chakra is ded
>but now you can actually use it more than once per fight
>but muh 3% potency loss
>but 20% TP reduction

>b-but muh riddle of fire slow
>but it's actually a 15% dps increase

>rip SMN muh bane
>meanwhile painflare is the same, plus demi-bahamut does aoe

The classes are still internally balanced, and they're still roughly where they were. Everybody got shiny new toys, and everybody had some fat trimmed off. Motherfuckers just need to calm down.
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>>380698034
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>>380697794
Problem?
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>>380696086
>have trouble finding a static because i'm not in the meta
>it doesn't matter tho guys you can still clear it, just use duty finder
l o l
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>>380697794
Protecting imouto is why people become dark knights.
>not carving and spitting some bitchboi who said mean things to your sister then eating his soul
It's like you don't believe in the power of love
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>>380697987
I see you're into more forbidden things
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>>380690218
Fuck i did it /v/ i told myself i wasn't going to buy the expansion since yoshi fucked my latency with the new server.

What do now?
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>>380698024
They literally did a bunch of raw number math with the media tour april build

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JgRBsdC4ru6LCSep6YhG7LQjCU1dfa1thqLy3yO2N9A/edit
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>>380698105
it's a dungeon that works a bit like a roguelike, randomized floors with a separate level and loot system. You complete 10 floors at a time. At top-tier efficiency (10 minute runs of floors 51-60), it takes 5~ hours to get from 50 to 60
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>>380698121
Berserk is on a shorter cooldown too so ther'es less downtime.

Someone should do the actual math though to see if +50% damage with a 70s downtime is worse than +30% damage on a 40s downtime
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>>380697843

http://southernbite.com/easy-stromboli/

I was going to try either that or http://www.simplyscratch.com/2014/06/homemade-stromboli.html . I can't fucking do yeast right so I might take the bitch tier one in that pic from southern bite.

>spend hours trying to do some nice fancy dish you saw
>Tastes eh, not bad but not better than you could get takeout'd
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>>380698143
Alternatively, otoutos can also fulfill this role.
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>>380698231
Go play WoW or something.
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>>380698231
Enjoy the game.
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>>380697986
It would have been so much better that way. As it is she makes it out as this big horrible secret she had to keep from you, but I'm just thinking how the fuck does that change anything, I've never known the real Yda since she died even before 1.0, so the Yda I've known since ARR being Lyse isn't that big a deal.
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>>380696618
>WAR will be best at trash dungeons
>except trash dungeons are going to be dead in 4.0 now
WAR truly is the 3.0 WHM this patch. Based YoshiP.
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Why the fuck did they add two DPS classes, how the fuck am I supposed to get anything done as a DPS now?

Thinking about just playing WHM.
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>>380697269
t. never raided before
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>>380698105
A randomly generated dungeon with 200 floors. You start at floor 1 at Level 1 and level up in the dungeon as you go.

You have your own sets weapons and armor used in the dungeon that are powered up by chests in the dungeon.

Clearing a set of 10 floors gives you EXP and/or Tomestones.
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What happened to my raging strikes?

t. BLM
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>>380698121
DRK lost all of its unique utility, lost a debuff that was shared with MNKd, lost abilities that provided flavor (Scourge and Delirium), had all of its AoE nerfed and got a Not-Fellcleave and for whatever reason another fucking AoE attack, so forgive me if I'm not exactly impressed.
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>>380698337
>tfw cannot consistently HQ food irl
why does everything have to be so cruel
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>>380698501
bitch you can quintuple flare
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>>380698121
>>geirskogul is now only spammable every 60s
The changes list that it has a 35 second cooldown and when it changes to nastrond it has a 10 second cooldown
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>>380698121
they lost "spamming" Geirskogul (which they never really had), but gained QUAD HOPS
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>>380698459
>Why the fuck did they add two DPS classes,

Because apparently since adding DRK and AST didn't make more people play Tanks and Healers they just shrugged their shoulders and threw more DPS into the pile.
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