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Stormblood soon

FFXIV
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Let's get this started
>WHM
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>>380683824
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>>>380683418
There's already a thread up shitbag.
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Let's get this shit started.
>mnk
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>>380683824
Pretty good actually. Still no raid utility but those changes seemed pretty fun to play around with
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Real talk why would you go pld/pld when pld/war and pld/drk will have way more dps due to LB generation? Just shitposting?
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>>380683824
>WHM
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>>380683756
>All the babies crying on the OF about DRK being too hard got it not only gutted but nerfed
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>rdm not only got fucked and nerfed, but is now one of the worst dps
Why SE
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Let's get this started
>SAM
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>>380683998
PLD's kit is so good and synergies with himself so well the LB generation loss might not be enough of a reason not to run it.
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>>380683756
>don't link the job guide page
>barely anything in the OP for discussion
You suck. Don't ever make an OP for my favorite game again.
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>>380683756
>DRK went from being the advanced tank with a billion buttons to being the beginner tank that anyone can pick up and play
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Which is better?

Samurai or Ninja?
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>>380683824
>WHM
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>>380683917
I already decided to switch when it was made known that GL4 was not happening
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>>380683824
What? WHM can spam like hell now with the short recast times.
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Has there been anymore patches to download?
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>>380683824
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I remember playing AST right when it was released and it being shit.

Now its going to feel almost dirty playing AST because of how good their skills look.
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>>380684121
It makes sense.

Kiritofags like looking badass, not actually being good at the game. As long as they can mash 1 2 3 and not wipe groups, I'll be happy.
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>>380684074
They nerfed the part of one cooldown that doesn't affect you and their already mediocre AoE. Stop over reacting or baiting or whatever it is you are doing.
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>>380684074
>There are still going to be thousands of them on launch
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>>380684165
I've only downloaded the 6gb one.
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>drk
>Yoshi said calm down about jobs
HOW CAN I CALM DOWN YOSHI?
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Lets get this started
>Every single job except SAM, NIN, MNK and PLD belongs in the cuckshed
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>>380684081
>JINPU % DAMAGE INCREASE FROM 15 TO 10
HOW WILL SAMUCKS EVER RECOVER
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>>>380683687
>>>380684064
AND I forgot the chance to reduce aetherflow cd
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Is it even worth it now to use Flare during AoE?
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>>380683756
Just delete this shit job desu desu
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>>380684165
No go to bed
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What's that Laser arrow BRD used after Refulgent Arrow in job trailer?
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>>380684074
>nobody played RDM yet
>whine about how it's already broken

SMNfags are migrating
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>>380683824
It's over for WHM. great for dungeons. meta will bench them no matter how good their heals are for AST
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>>380684325
You forgot AST
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>>380684152
Where did you get this image?
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Samurai is actually broken af damage wise.
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>all AoE getting fucking gutted
I TOLD YOU TO RESPECT THE CONTENT, SHITLORDS
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>>380683917
It's baffling
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Let's see those toasters. 4k memesterrace reporting
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>>380684304
Why are you upset? Your job is now the easiest to play in the role. You can get commends and short queue times while putting in zero effort.

That's what you wanted, right?
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>>380684240
I loved the class since 3.0. I don't feel so bad.
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>>380683824
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>>380684325
Fuck off MNK fag, your job is right on the bottom.
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>>380684152
Post the other AF3 pls.
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MNK bros, please tell me it'll be alright?
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ok guys be honest

http://www.strawpoll.me/13202480
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>>380684403
>all
Not NIN
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Anyone have that outfit of a SAM looking like he's straight out of Bleach?
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>>380684325
>MNK
Not so fast MNK fag, back to the shed with you
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>>380684403
gomenasai yoshi-sama
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>>380684325
>>MNK
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>>380684430
True, 3.0 AST was just awful.
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>>380684478
Deep meditation and Riddle of Fire is fine now. its just the rotation is still boring
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How big is the SB update? Want to know if i should DL over night or just wait till morning.
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>>380684542
Oh, sorry
All RELEVANT AoE got gutted.
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Do you guys have a 'main character' class you prefer to do MSQ with?

Also, I am currently at level 38 and I have a question. If the MSQ already takes me to Coerthas, then why does everything I've seen about Heavensward make it seem like you're going to Coerthas for the first time? Is it just that Heavensward features heavily in Coerthas, and thus you're moving there rather than just visiting?
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>>380684325
>MNK
Nice try.
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>>380684426
I didn't.
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>Part of me still wants to level SMN

Someone help me. What are my other choices for AoE nukes? Is it only BLM?
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>>380684465
>>380684568
>>380684579
Stop, this is our expansion
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HELP DO I LEVEL MY BLM OR RDM FIRST, I CAN'T DECIDE. BLM LOOKS LIKE SO MUCH MORE DAMAGE BUT MUH PARTY UTILITY WITH RDM.
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>>380684584
sure, but I still had fun playing it.
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>>380684478
Just stay in this shed, alright bro. We'll...we'll come back to you...
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Is BLM fun? SCH doesn't seem fun and I've never tried BLM, and I'm thinking of making the switch.
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>>380684698
No, this expansion is literally for Ninja and Samurai.

They will be at the top of DPS rankings.
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>>380684240
I can't believe card abilities ever had longer cooldowns
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The only bad things in this is that shadowskin and scourge are gone. Unleash getting its potency nerfed is the most irrelevant thing in the world, and siphonstrike, while a fucking odd change, wasn't exactly used in grit very often so the hp restore rarely triggered.

Losing shadowskins a pretty big deal, although Black Night will make up for it to an extent. I really don't see what all the crying is about.
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Let's talk RDM. Just how garbage will they be in comparison to BLM/SMN?
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>mogstation says im on steam version
>never played through steam in my life

welp, time to repurchase vanilla ARR so I can use my newly bought SB code. Fuck steam
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>>380684674
>Do you guys have a 'main character' class you prefer to do MSQ with?
Dark Knight.

Having everyone hail me as a warrior of light while Hydaelyn tries to get me to fetishize the light is hilarious when my character is a giant edgelord spewing darkness everywhere.
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>>380684640
>he doesn't know
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>>380684674
You answered your own question about Coerthas
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I don't understand these nerfs to MNK at all
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Regardless of actual simulation/math, Monk has been declared to be shit.

What a shame that performance will probably be ignored by a lot of people in favor of flavor of the week bitching. Least that probably means they'll get an unwarranted buff in a few months.
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>>380684529
PLD or bust
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> all these people switching to PLD
fuck off, it's my job, go play something else
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>>380684753
Yeah it's pretty fun, more fun than SCH in my opinion.
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>>380684698
>be monk
>see Stormblood announced
>"oh boy, it's our turn, just like Dragoons"
>SAM announced
>literally better than MNK in every single way
>every aesthetic and theme of Stormblood panders to SAM more than you
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Let's get this started
>NIN
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>>380684803
Better than both. :^)
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>>380684769
>TA bitch
>topping DPS
lol, no
DRG, SAM, and maybe BRD if their DPS is comparable to the end of HS (it probably isn't)
You're just there to prep the real DPS bulls.
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>>380684478
W-we are now the crit kings anon!
Imagine those RoF crit powered tornado kicks!
Now with Brotherhood's 15s on a 90s cooldown people will want us in their team!
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>>380684846
Oh okay. I was just curious since it will be a while before I can actually get into Heavensward content.
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>>380684894
PLD is now the flavour of the month bandwagoner job. everyone will assume you jumped ship. please look forward to it!
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>>380684395
>>380684475
Official AF3 armor for all jobs:

https://imgur.com/r/ffxiv/zKgmS
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>>380684674
You only go to a small part of Coerthas in ARR
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP02ykXXKog
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Tfw scholar main
>No more aero
>No more blizzard 2
>No more virus
>No more cleric stance dance
>Shadow flare fucked

WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE THIS, YOSHI P?
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Why is there so many ninjas?
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>>380684894
Bro you really want as many tanks playing this fucking game as possible since so many shitters are jumping to SAM
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>>380684894
This. Been playing it since 2.0. Fuck off warfags
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>BLM changes

I'm fucking ready
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>>380684695
I know how you feel man. I've been SMN since I started this game and loved it, but these nerfs seem terrible. I might go BLM for all those Fire IVs, or jump on the SAM bandwagon.
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>>380684923
You know that isnt true anon.....
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>>380684478
MNK is probably fine damage wise. The real problem is the nerf to their fun.
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>>380684929
>he doesn't know
>he hasn't read the official changes

Oh honey I feel sorry for you.
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>>380684864
Skill speed affects autos and MNK's DPS has always been about autos
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>>380684971
>showing off sets on potatoes

im so fucking mad, it triggers me when they do this
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>>380684674
Dragoon. It feels like a very "main character" job, especially in Heavensward.
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>>380684993
Branched out from arcanist with Summoner. Tough luck.
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>>380685105
that's a good point, i shouldn't freak out too much, especially without testing it myself.
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>>380685015
It's a fun job that's about to get even easier to play while still being very strong.

It also has a great aesthetic and awesome utility. It's basically just fantastic. I'd play it if my ping wasn't shit.
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>>380685080
Fact is, neither of us know shit because we haven't played with the new job, or the changes to existing jobs, in practical situations.
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>>380684797
>losing shadowskin
>have a skill that's functionally identical
Stop being retarded
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>>380684797

Dark Passenger nerfed, Low Blow removed, Delirium removed, Blood Price changed to Grit-only
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>sam gets a ranged attack
>mnk still fucking doesn't
holy shit someone hates monk on the dev team
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>>380684971
>https://imgur.com/r/ffxiv/zKgmS

God fucking damn it. Of course it's all Lalafags and lizards. I want to see the PLD set on a Male Hyur Midlander for fucks sake, it's literally nonexistent outside of the 2 second clip in the trailer.
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>>380684993
>before Stormblood
>"oh boy, it's nice being tied to SMN"
>after Stormblood
>"I wish every aspect about this situation was completely different"
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>>380685015
It's fun
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>>380684417
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Why they kept this penalty on WAR stance if they were going to nerf to oblivion his dps and utility?

Shit is fucked up, glad I leveled PLD.
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>>380684695
Don't do it, Bahamut is a lvl 70 skill that you will only be able to use for raid tier shit.

The rest of the time you will be slowly going through dungeons with nerfed aoe spamming ruin for the proc.
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>>380685194
You lose an ability that you would have used through crossclass, since you would have been able to crossclass something else instead of a skill that you used to have. The same thing can be said for reprisal and lowblow.
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>>380685120
>>380685262
Blame Reddit, they love playing lalafells because of memes.
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>>380684929
Nigger NIN was the highest parsing melee dps in HW, the naruto fags brought the average way down though so we are getting buffed even more
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>>380685120
>>380685262
https://imgur.com/a/L4qOs
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I CAN'T ACCESS PATCHNOTE

WHAT'S HAPPENING?
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>>380684797
DRK is going to be good

It might be more dry but it'll still be good
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>>380685173
Comparing Samurai and Monk after the 5% Jinpu nerf and the 20% Chakra generation buff, Monk's non-AA potency is within 2% of Samurai. And Monk AAs are much stronger than Samurai's, and this doesn't count Brotherhood affecting party members at all
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>>380685237
>DP nerf
DP was always a meme skill, who cares
>Low blow removed
DS damage increase to make up for it
>Delirium removed, BP grit only
Those suck a bit. Mainly the Blood price shit.
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>>380685359
>tfw I have a level 34 gladiator
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>>380684478
We're fine m8. go for those high sks meme builds
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>>380684910
Lets get this started
>DRG
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>>380685253
They punch and they kick, how the fuck do you think they can give them a ranged attack?
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>>380684894
I suppose I'll stick to my WAR.
>when I finally level PLD later in 4.x it gets nerfed
M-maybe I'll do PLD instead.
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>>380685376
I cant find a DPS that appeals to me then, but I need one on reserve.
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>>380684674
PLD, being a holy warrior feels right being the WoL. I wish I could get that Armor of Light to go with the helmet though.
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>>380685359
xenosys vex said warrior is still good and that people who say it sucks now has no idea what they're talking about.

i trust him, an actual good player, theorycrafter and raider over some random nobody on /v/
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Can a bard and machinist have a spot in the same static?
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>>380684969
STOP. I'm literally the first PLD on the server and have been playing this shit job since the beginning, I even have 3 lions, no WAR memer is allowed to switch
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I can't sleep.
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in the job guide, anything new come up that we didn't already know?
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>>380685424
This is a bit comforting, I suppose just the gut reaction seeing the changes got to me.
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>>380684910
>MCH
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So I'm restarting on a fresh account to play with friends, I wont go into why but basically I wasn't even level 50 and it's been years since I last played.

Ideally I'd play BLM as I did prior, but I recall duty finder wait times being a pain as I was working through the MSQ

Would it be beneficial to play as something else like a tank to get back to where I was, or?
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>>380683824
great for raid progression, best healer for roulette
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>>380685408
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>380685575
play tank if you want instant queue
play dps if you want 30 min queue
play healer if you want 3-5 min queue
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>>380684529
u-uh
MCH b-bros?? where've you all gone haha
hello????
we were meant to shoot zenos in the face together haha
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>>380685575
GLD/PLD is about to become very strong, I'd recommend it.
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>SE nerfed adlo by increasing its MP cost
>Aspected benefic get buffed to adlo crit lvl
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>>380684993
>>No more cleric stance dance
Sorry, can you elaborate on this? I haven't been following the exact changes.

Can SCH no longer do decent damage?
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link job guides
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>>380685625
They look fine?
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Enough with thinking man memes, tell me:

>YOUR MAIN JOB (and other jobs you play maybe)
>HOW HAPPY/DISAPPOINTED YOU ARE WITH THESE CHANGES (hard mode: no "better than WHM at least" comparisons)
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Mnk bros please tell me it's going to be okay, I looked over the other melee dps changes and the monk ones just depressed me. Is this really the end?
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>>380685625
I feel so fucking sorry for males who play healer, this shit is awful
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>>380685625
That's so fucking ugly.
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>>380685457
Ki blasts like DBZ, they already have super saiyan and kamehameha
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>>380685625
That looks so fucking disgusting on males.
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>>380685517

People like to meme about WAR being cucked because they've been on top for 4 straight years. The reality is they still have amazing personal mitigation and DPS. They will probably still be a lock for the OT role.
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>>380685568
I mean, there's still reason to be worried. While Samurai isn't strictly better at on paper DPS, they have a great amount of control over when their DPS happens, they can align burst periods extremely well with the party due to Hagakure and a wide window of generating Kenki without having to use it, unlike Monks' potency output being pretty much a straight line.

Monk also has to worry about dropping GL3 for various idiot reasons, as well as having less flexibility over controlling your stance due to losing Fracture/Touch of Death, and RoF just presumably feeling kind of shitty. Still, TP efficiency got better in many ways, Monk is still probably the king of persistent, steady damage.
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Hey guys. Noob question. So Y'shtola came back to me after she helped some of the beast tribe friends. As soon as I came out, she locked my WHM friend in there and tore off her robes, bending over and demanding I "shove in my Holy PLD dick." What's the deal with that?

And whats with the people out here? I see catgirls running around with Katanas.
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>>380685714
Healers dps comes from mnd
Cleric stance is dps cd that rises it's even higher than before
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Wait, what's all this RDM talk about being nerfed? I'm going to play it regardless but just what happened in the last few hours that I've missed?
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>>380685740
It is for now. Maybe in a couple patches we can get a buff.
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>>380685408
>https://imgur.com/a/L4qOs

Yes, thank you, holy shit, this is what I wanted.

>That slim fit cloth material
>Those properly proportioned boots and shoulders
>The white black blue and gold color scheme with a touch of red
>A normal circlet head piece

UUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGG MY DICK
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Link to patch-notes stream?
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>>380685701
Sorry I'm late.
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>>380685625
>Male Astrologians
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>>380684417
>Let's see those toasters. 4k memesterrace reporting
>>380684417
Get peed on
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>>380685747
I typically only heal but between shit balance and shit aesthetics, I'm left like 6 hours before expansion still deciding what OTHER class to play. Shit sucks dude.
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>>380685625
they literally just recycled the crafter i250 healer gear
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>>380685747
>tfw WHM dudes finally get a decent artifact set, but their job gets anally raped first
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>No dancer class
Why should I care?
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>ala mhigo
>instanced dungeon
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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When does the third patch go up?
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what time do the servers come up for early access?
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>>380685904
>720p High Laptop
lmao
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>>380685691
>play dps if you want 30 min queue

are dps queues really this bad? that blows
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Why do Ninjas get the coolest gear?
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>>380684723
this. I am suffering the same problem
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>Absolutely adore WAR AF3 gear
>Play DRK
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>>380685974
pick a healer
wear a dress
throw regen on your tank
/dance until they need healing again
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>>380685740
It's basically over for us. At least we've got SAM gear
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>>380686029
2am PST I believe.
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>>380684529
>still playing DRK when it's bad-PLD now
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>>380685736
>Main
NIN
>Side
PLD, DRK, MCH
>How happy or sad
Very happy with NIN and PLD obviously, mildly disappointed with DRK and MCH
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>>380686014
2am pdt
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>>380685974
It'll be patched in at 4.2, anon.
Does literally nobody remember that Rouge and Ninja were patched in?
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>>380685736
>AST
Quite happy. They fixed the crazy kneejerk 300% shields for noct and also made Earthly star more fair at 720 cure potency rather than fucking 900. Everything else either stayed the same as media tour info or was slightly improved. Combust II is instant cast now and Malefic III got 10 extra potency. I am quite happy with where astro is at right now. I hope that SCH is as good as it looks as well, I used to be a SCH main and still feel it is the patrician healer.
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>>380686098
>im a fucking idiot
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>>380686071
Surecast is pretty good now tho since it let you dodge drawn in/knowback effects.
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>>380686037
not really, depends on what you're queuing for
although it's unknown how much the new dps jobs are going to affect this
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>>380686046
It's the NIN expansion
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>>380684529
>NIN tied for lead despite having the most disappointing changes by far, even worse than WHM
Weebs sure are dumb.
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>>380686037
no, thats a stretch even in ungodly hours, unless you're doing very old raids
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>>380686104
Why dissapointed with MCH? MCH looks really fun and I think the heat gauge will add some depth to the class
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>>380686123
So when the EA begins?

Jesus that's going to be a shitstorm.
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>>380686186
It's not terrible but how are you supposed to justify taking it over ANY of the other skills unless the fight it super tailored for it?
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>>380686216
>>NIN tied for lead despite having the most disappointing changes by far, even worse than WHM

Did you even read them?
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>SMN is supposed dot class
>Has 400 and 450 potency dot
>BRD is support utility dps class
>Has 570 and 670 potency dot
SMN B T F O
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>>380684674
In the MSQ you just sort of hang out on the outskirts of the place and in Heavensward you're stuck actually hanging in there because everyone in Eorzea who isn't Cid or Haurchefant is a massive asshole.
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Anyone have a pic of the new Gold Saucer MCH gun?
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>>380686174
why
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>>380686216
>NIN gets nothing but buffs
>Disappointing
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>>380685625
It totally fits the wandering gypsy fortune-teller look while looking distinct on both gender. No clue why everyone thinks it's bad. They're fucking healers not some armored class
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>>380686284
One healer take protect.
The second one take esuna.
They both take surecast.
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>>380684478
Its shit
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>>380686323
ya blew it
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>>380685736
>Main
BLM
>side
PLD

10/10 for me, ready to become the holy crusader I always wanted to be
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>>380686323
You fucked up.
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>>380685736
>DRK
Really disappointed. I don't care if the job is better or worse than WAR and other meta raiding memes, I'm not sure if I will enjoy the job anymore. "Way too many stupid changes" is the only way to describe it.
Then again, I'm not sure which tank I would like to play in 4.0, or if I want to keep playing as a tank at all. Considering DRG since it is a heavy armor user.
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>>380686323
>Try to be a cheeky cunt
>Humiliate yourself
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>>380686340
because you were born that way
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>>380686369
and Cleric's goes where?
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Why isn't /v/ as cool as reddit?
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>>380684478
Good news MNK brother, we share gear with SAM so switching to it will be painless!
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>>380686478
>Cleric
lol
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>>380685736
nin
we hogake now believe it
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>>380686323
We saw that
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>>380686408
>>380686420
>>380686465
FUCK
YOU JUST WAIT TILL THE NEXT THREAD
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https://youtu.be/IH8K0bPc-BE
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>>380686141
I thought they said no more jobs added in patches
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>>380686478
>Unironically taking new cleric stance
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>>380685736
>Monk (also Paladin)
Monk I hate on feel alone, Riddle of Fire takes our unique speed and shits on it as a replacement for Blood for Blood that nobody asked for. Riddle of Earth should just be a long cooldown 'refresh GL' move, it's fucking stupid to make you get hit, it won't even work on a lot of old content, which makes me assume it probably won't work on much future content. Tornado Kick is still useless, losing DOTs makes us less flexible (another fairly central feel to the class), and Forbidden Chakra is probably my least favorite move from HW, so being able to use a weaker version of it more often doesn't really appeal that much. Also no new attacks. That being said, the changes aren't negative for us DPS wise, even if at first glance they'd look that way, and the core of the class is still fun, so I will stick with it.
Paladin looks like everything I've ever wanted. 10/10 changes if I wasn't so married to Monk I would say I officially main it.
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>>380685736
>MAIN
DRK
>SUB
WAR, PLD, DRG, MCH
>HOW HAPPY/DISAPPOINTED
DRK got QoL changes but is worse overall from nerfs nobody asked for with a kit that's still mismatched. Without Alex to pad their one gimmick, DRK is dead.

WAR is in a similar situation. They nerfed it too hard.

I might start running PLD from now on, until they give the other tanks some love.

I like the DRG changes for the most part. RIP pole dancing, though.

MCH seems better than ever now.
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>>380686123
> 5 am I'm my time zone
Fuck, wish I could just call in sick tomorrow
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>>380686478
in the trash stupid
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>>380686574
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>>380686529
>>380686591

Why would you ever take knockback nullification over something that kills bosses faster?
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>~5df430c8
Man this music is good.
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>>380686494
>eating cake at 5am
Im kind of jealous.
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>>380686478
the bin
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I just woke up. Did the music get posted yet and if so can I have it?
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>>380683824
SMN was ruined

>only two dots instead of three
> misama 2 no longer an aoe,
>bane has a 80% potency nerf(Bio has a 40 potency with bane it's potency is now 8 which is nothing),
>aetherflow recovers 10% mp instead of 20,
>we lost blizzard 2,
>ruin 3 lost 50 potency
>ruin 4 has same potency as current ruin 3 but it's a proc
>bahamut only shows up two minutes after pull starts meaning you can't allign your damage with other party buffs
>after that bahamut will only show up once every two minutes
>shadow flare is now an ocd you can use every 60 seconds so you can't place another one down as soon as it ends
>can not use aetherflow abilities in dwt
>tri-disasterbuffs ruin 3 but still less potency overall
>>
QUICK /V/ WILL I BE ABLE TO GET THE ALA MHIGAN EARRINGS AFTER THE PREORDERS ARE UNAVAILABLE?
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>>380686494
>unironically eating sheet cake with grocery store-tier frosting
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>>380686639
>5% damage up for 15sec every 90sec
It's not worth it Anon.
It's really not...
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>>380685736
>MCH
I'm liking what I'm seeing with the heat gauge mechanic. No cast times is also a plus.
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>>380686574
>Puts on direct hit gear
How dis make u feel whitey? I'm willing to forgive ya for ya transgression but you gotta let me use WAR's mouth first
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>>380686574
Fight or Flight even before this patch has always been a ridiculous cooldown that was on a class that couldn't really use it.
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>>380686263
I'm going to miss my big dick wildfires with all my buffs up
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>PLD is buffed
>NIN is buffed
>Going to transfer to Omega and meet new people on a new server
>Brand new adventures to be had

I'm so fucking excited holy shit.
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>>380686639
cheesing mechanics
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>>380686687
>>380686627
>>380686591
>>380686529

I see the casual Balmungers are out in full force tonight.

Don't chafe your tallywackers too hard over the new emotes while the rest of us are killing bosses.
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>>380685405
>ninja highest parsing melee in HW
Pass that bowl, you're obviously the highest ninja in this thread
>>
Can't wait for these dumb ass DRK and WAR "mains" jumping ship to come crawling back in a month when the """top players""" tell them their favourite job is still good

Pathetic
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>>380686729
Don't forget until you are lvl 70 you won't even have bahamut. So for most of the content you can't really do shit.
>>
> plan to lvl PLD first since it's my main class then proceed with the other tanks
> static leader asks me to lvl BRD or DRG instead to give a chance to a returning shitter
Fuck off man, I'm going PLD first
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>>380686876
It's not even an increase of 1% DPS man.
Let it go.
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New guy here. Been playing as Dragoon because they're are my favorite FF class, but thinking about picking up a tank class for shorter Duty Finder times.
Which tank is the most beginner friendly? Also any general tips for being a tank so I don't completely embarrass myself online?
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>people on the official forums saying they won't take a sch now ever
Why the fuck do you fucking summoners have to ruin our class?
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>>380686725
Only the best for you m8
https://mega.nz/#!EDh0ARqD!_M-i0jj5ILbqYo5KRscA3mtLEur2JwgL40013PAQTZU

Also this is the best primal theme of the game
https://my.mixtape.moe/txlgvx.ogg
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>That souleater change

Why though? Its self heal was useless for self-sustain. Why have it now?
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>>380683824
>tfw people sleeping on whm

I have a feeling content will hit hard making their barriers and on demand healing really crucial. I'm willing to put time into whm anticipating this.
>>
>"DRK is fine"
>Complaints drowned out because people who don't understand DRK keep saying it's fine.
>months later no changes to DRK, no one plays DRK
>>
>SMNcucks will remain the bitchiest playerbase bar none

This makes me happy
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>>380684725
I would play AST no matter how shit it gets. Its kit is the chemo to the retarded downtime healers get in this game. Even when playing a dps WHM I hit myself on the table several times out of boredom
>>
Did they release the job guide?
Are all the patches out now?
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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/296b070f41c0e0dedae24de50ae7c51abfa95055
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/296b070f41c0e0dedae24de50ae7c51abfa95055
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/296b070f41c0e0dedae24de50ae7c51abfa95055

FULL PATCH NOTE
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as a massive contrarian what class should i main, MCH or MNK?
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>>380685736
>mnk, nin, drg
Ninja and drg got some good shit, monk got cucked again.
>>
Haven't kept up with the Stormblood changes. Between Ninja and Samurai which one looks like it's shaping up to be the most fun?
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>>380685887
ANYONE??
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>>380687000
>beginner friendly
Paladin
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>>380687000
paladin is easy, tragically it is also going to be the best tank come SB
>>
>reading job guides
surely AST isnt better in PVP than WH-
>AST keeps their Tetra clone
>AST gets rescue on a faster reuse
>Still get lightspeed
>Still get Balance
>WHM fluid aura uses lilies in PVP

fug
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>>380687015
RASPACT THE CONTET
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>>380685736
As a Highlander PLD main and MCH side I am happy and prepared to liberate.
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>>380687000
>Which tank is the most beginner friendly?
Good trips, also DRK is going to be the easiest tank to play after it gets patched.

Alternatively you can go PLD and be OP until it gets nerfed.
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>>380685736
AST
Never been happier. Fuck every other healer that shit on us during the Heavensward launch.
>>
>Those SCH changes

Fuck man, I don't know if they'll be worth taking along for that 15% crit debuff. I just don't want to abandon the class I've been playing since the beginning of 2.0
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>>380687075
you're literally like 10 hours late but alright
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>>380687021
>barriers and on demand healing
so basically everything SCH and AST can do better
>>
What's the point of adding an AoE skill to PLD if it wont also increase emnity
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>>380687029

No dude, 1 physical mitigation skill on a 3 minute CD is totally fine :^)
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>>380687209
>Full patch notes
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>>380687000
PLD

>Always know the fight
>Face everything away from the party
>Never use more than one defensive cooldown at once
>Pick up as many trash as you can handle in dungeons. Going one group by one group is a waste of everyone's time.
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>>380687012
Respect the content shitter.
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>>380687209
That's prelim patch note.
>>
should I buy the ARR+HW bundle off of GMG, or do I just need ARR and SB? New player.
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>>380687209
Full, retard.
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>>380687070
Don't know about the patches, but I found the Job Guide thing http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/battle/
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>>380686965
If my static leader tried to make me do that, I'd just leave and find a better static - fuck that.

There's also four WEEKS until the raid, so it shouldn't even be a problem.
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>>380687000
Gladiator/Paladin.
Visit the Smith NPC in your starting city and do all training missions to learn all the basics about tanking (because nothing else will teach you how to do it).
You will "embarrass yourself" no matter what, but people don't care about it that much in low level dungeons, so don't worry.
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>>380686304
If you can, and don't if it's a major spoiler, can you tell me why exactly Coerthas is where you go to hide out? The Ishgardians are massive assholes as well, so I don't see why they would be a safe place to go compared to anywhere else in Eorzea.

I'll be honest, I was surprised to meet people that were bigger shits than the Gridanians
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>>380687075
Neat
>>
>>
>>380687150
>DRK is going to be the easiest tank to play after it gets patched.
I don't get this meme
the only "complexity" DRK had was related to mana management and dark arts spam, and now we've got ANOTHER resource to manage, plus mana management will be more difficult since blood price is Grit only now
or did you really think maintain a dot and a debuff was complex
>>
Which job has the best sprint animation and why is it PLD?
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>>380687012
Astro ruined your class not smn
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>>380687341

It's a meme, DRK still has the most ogcd skills, especially with DA lowered to a 2 second CD. Double-weaving will be mandatory.
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>>380687221
PLD is the offtank and serves as another DPS, DRK is the main tank.
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>>380686980
Redpill me on surecast, then.

Name more than 3 fights where it's useful over the course of 2.0-3.X.

I'll wait.
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>>380687014
Thank you for the link. Once again Soken releases a solid ost.
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>>380685736
>Main
SCH
>Sub
WHM, AST, WAR, MNK, BRD
>How Happy/disappointed
Quite sad.
Adlo MP cost, which was already fucking high got even more high.
Bane nerf and lose of Miasma2/Blizzard/Bio and Shadow flare nerf killed our AOE DPS incredibly, we are basically worthless in dungeon run now.
Our new toys also got nerfed compared to previous build with Chain stratagem only giving 15% instead of 20% and Exco having a timer.
And they even nerfed our fairies heal.
Shit sucks.
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>>380686901
Go look up the numbers, highest recorded melee parse is a ninja, followed by drg, and with mnk dead last, not only melee but of all dps
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IS THE LAST PATCH UP YET
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>>380687364
DRK
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>>380687382
>BAWW AST DOES SOMETHING BAWW NERF PLZ ONLY WAY TO FIX ANYTHING NERF AST BAWWW
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>>380687392
>PLD dps

lmao
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>>380687091
>>380687102
>>380687150
>>380687269
>>380687295
Alright then. Thanks for the responses.
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>>380687341
No one on /v/ actually plays DRK

They just parrot reddit and Happy
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>>380687505
>he hasn't read the patch notes

Oh lawdy
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wz_M5PCpKM

I'll leave this here.
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>>380684403
>unless you're SAM
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>>380687505
Well it's gonna be the best tank DPS so
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>>380685736
AST
I feel dirty, but I'm glad they gave us a tool to make the shit cards less useless. Now I have a f r e e fluid aura or lustrate every 30 seconds

BLM
Feels good to main the same job as yosheep. They made all the right changes with this
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>>380687505
have you had your head in the fucking sand the past, i dont fucking know, two months?
>>
>>380687485
>have instant cast shields on demand that shields more than a crit adlo
Any retard knows how imbalanced that shit is
>>
And baddies will still get hit by gaze attacks.
>>
Any thoughts where the hell this https://my.mixtape.moe/qedslv.ogg will play so I can spend the rest of my time in Stormblood in there?
>>
>that DRK job quest name
Return of "Fray" incoming?
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>>380687590
fuuuuuuuuuuuck
yessssss
>>
>pld
>shelltron

The effect of Shelltron now also includes magic damage.
Activation cost added.
Recast time reduced from 30 to 5 seconds.

>5 second recast

woah, holy shit
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>>380687668
>implying casuals even know that list exists
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>>380687620
>>380687608
>>380687581
>He thinks Holy Spirit is going to fix PLD's dps

Love this meme
>>
>>380685736
Main - SMN
I am very upset. Our class was gutted and the fact that I have to hope my tank isn't retarded when I place down shadowflare is horrible
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>>380687706
Isn't this just the battle theme?
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>>380687297
Because Haurchefant is a bro and has your back
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>>380687631
>I can't accept that maybe I'm not the best at something meaning it has to be inherently broke because I'm so retarded that I demand complete homogeny of classes. It's fun when everyone's the same so we all get trophies for trying!
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>>380687263
>>380687278
>>380687285
they're the fucking same as the preliminary patch notes
literally, the same
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>>380687768
You need Oath juice for it
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Which job is easiest to play with an Xbox One controller?

Melee DPS or tank preferably.
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>>380687485
>Does better than adloqium
>Instant cast

I wonder why people would be upset about it
>>
>>380687716
No.
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Where my DRG bros at?

Y'all ready for Nastrond?
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>>380687631
you can't deploy it xd
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>>380687768
You need Oath points to use it, though.
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>>380687453
>UUGGGHHHHHH
Thanks for the hit nibba
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>>380685736
Mained AST since the beginning of 3.0, fuck all of these people that now want to shit on the job because it finally got its own identity and got good.

Nerfing Balance is not the fucking solution to WHM's woes.

Aside from that, fuck all these melodramatic SCH mains.

>WAAAAAH EMBRACE GOT NERFED BY 50 POTENCY THE JOB IS DEAD
Like christ, 50 fairy potency is more like 30 real potency and they got a fuckload of other nice tools to cover for minimal nerfs to their fairy toolkit, please kill yourselves.
>>
>>380686758
Compared to what though?

Surecast, Rescue and Break are all USELESS unless you know for sure there's a viable place to use them.
>>
>>380687848
Because they want every healing class to be exactly the same and, if they're not, they complain because someone else is better?
>>
>>380687789
>battle theme

Oh shit looks like i'm grinding 60-70 in the overworld.
>>
>>380687857
>can only use exclusively in boss fight
>1 minute to set up
Not all that excited
>>
>>380687848
see >>380687827
It isn't broken shitter
>>
>>380687857

I wish it were possible to do artifact weapon quests without being an autistic grinder
>>
>>380687839
still pretty good, they pretty much got buffs all around. they still will probably be boring as sin to play
>>
>>380685736
>Mnk

Disappointed to the point where I will very likely stop playing the class after I get it to 70. The changes are honestly just fucking stupid.

>Everything related to shoulder tackle is a waste of time and effort >the slow on riddle of fire is garbage that no one who plays mnk wants to have to deal with
>riddle of earth is legitimately straight up trash that will very likely be a waste of hot bar space more often than tornado kick is even WHILE at the same time making tornado kick even more of situational garbage
>Brotherhood only effects physical and doesn't even buff the monk

Way to show that you have no idea how to even add new things to a class, much less balance one.
>>
>>380687284
"Please note that the FINAL FANTASY XIV: Stormblood expansion pack also includes FINAL FANTASY XIV: Heavensward."
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>>380687414
New surecast prevents knockbacks, so titan, ifrit, ultima, leviathan, sophia, divebombs of any kind, etc.
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>>380687857
I'm ready to be Niddstinien.
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>>380687842
unless they've changed the skills a lot, WAR is pretty damn easy to play
>>
>>380687857
No cause I'm level 38, still grinding away my dude
>>
>>380687842
Any of them should be fine. MNK might be awkward since it requires the most movement.
>>
Is Dark Passenger useless single target encounters now? It's probably the same MP as a Dark Arts, and it's probably better to save that MP on a +140 potency SE/SS than use it on a 100 potency move.
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Wait, so I'm looking at the job guide for Red Mage

Are the descriptions for Verthunder/Veraero and Verfire/Verstone messed up? Why would you bother with Verfire/Verstone if Verthunder/Veraero are just better and don't require a proc?
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so when the fuck is this going live ?
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>>380687987
>unironically being a fucking casual
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So is Thrill of Battle now just a cd you use along with Upheaval?
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Go to bed.
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>>380687779
>he thinks it's only Holy Spirit
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>>380687768
it's tied to the oath gauge so it isn't as good as it sounds

>>380687297
some stuff happens that makes it hard for you to stay in the three city states, and ishgard hasn't been a part of their agreement for a while, making it a good place to hide out. that's about as non-spoilery as i can get
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>>380688120
You can't tell me what to do, cat.
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>Still can't decide between DRG and BRD with 20 other jobs I was half considering
This is suffering.
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>>380688086
>I sit inside doing the same thing all day so I can get my 5 ilvl upgrade on every 2nd patch :)
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>>380688081
No.

Verfire/Stone replace jolt since they do more damage and gives more total mana.
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>>380688050
Best of luck to you.

>>380688120
But I just woke up.
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>>380688058
Yeah, especially since they lowered the CD on Dark arts
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>MAIN: SMN
>OTHER CLASSES PLAYED: PLD/DRK/SCH/MNK/DRG

>CLASSES YOU WILL PLAY FOR SB:

SAM RDM BRD PLD
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>>380687618
fluid aura?
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>>380687984
>Heals better than whm
>Has better shield heals than sch

GEE WHIZ I WONDER WHY PEOPLE ARE UPSET
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>>380687954
>rescue a dps
>he does more damage to the boss than your shit 5% increase
>surecast
>*stuns and silences you for 10 seconds during cleric*
>pshhhhhhhhhhhhh nothing personnel, kid
really makes you think
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>>380688217
Anon, I'm so sorry.
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>>380685736
>Paladin
Very, very fucking happy.
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>>380688081
Look at the casting time for Verthunder/Veraero.
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So does Yoshi know he is making this the skillspeed expansion with this gauge shit and with skillspeed buff and crit nerfs? Why would I ever not choose skill/spellspeed for anything?
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>>380687839
>Bulwark will be a good cooldown now because unless you get phenomenally RNG screwed it will load you up on Oath juice
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>>380688081
Because of the 5 second cast times.
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>>380688085
>>380688085
>>380688085
>>380688085
>>380688085
anyone ???

is it in 1 hour or is it some PST bullshit hour and that means not until like 3 AM
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>>380687848
>>380687485
>BAAW AST can waste their GCDs now on a reall nice shield, why can't SCH be the best at EVERYTHING?!

SCH mains have to be the worst fucking community in the game, I swear to fucking christ
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>>380688081
The way RDM works is you have normal speed casts, and 5 second fuckhuge casts, but every cast makes your next spell instant. Fire and Stone are the shorter casts that come from a proc, so in an ideal world you would jolt > Thunder/Aero > proc > Aero/Thunder > proc > etc.
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>>380688081
Jolt > Verthunder/aero
>proc
Verfire/stone > Verthunder/aero
>no proc
Jolt > Verhunder/aero

Repeat.
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>>380688178
>the grinding in FFXIV is too hard for him
lmfao fucking baby
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>>380688005
So your justification for decreasing raidwide DPS is to cheese mechanics that are easy to dodge to begin with therefore providing zero utility if you aren't bad at the game.

Ok.
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>>380688356
5 AM EST
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>>380688356
1 hour but they dont want you to log in so they can log in with less congestion 3 AM :^)
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>>380688254
ogcd dps
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>>380687953
>job because it finally got its own identity
>take all the good things from all the other healers
You are like a tranny trying to steal a woman's identity but you're a filthy man
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>>380688085
As of right now, in 6 hours. 5 hours 40 to be precise.
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>>380688356
>can't into timezones
Are you a BR or something? Maybe if you stopped eating sopa de macaco you woudln't have brain parasites eating your pre-frontal cortex.
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>>380684529
>WHM is bottom bitch
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>>380684121
But DRK was easy though
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>>380688356
3 AM PST
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>MNK can't even use Earth Tackle in PvP
>it is a genuinely 100% worthless skill
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>>380688392
On your death bed I'm sure you'll be glad you sat at the computer doing menial chores for hours on end
>>
HOLY SHIT THE DEATH DEBUFF GOT HUGE
I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO CLEAR THE ALLIANCE RAIDS NOW
FUCK
>>
So far I've only been able to download the first patch of like 4.5 GB, is there more coming? I'd hate to have to download right after maintenance and miss that giant mass of people clamoring to be a samurai.
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>>380688465
>Almost all of AST's new abilities revolve around the card mechanic in some form, spare a generic damage spell and some weird ass hybrid of Assize and CU
>i-it's not fair, AST should have no upsides ;_;

sit down you salty whm shitter
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>>380688273
makes me think that you play with a lot of shitters if you think rescue is even remotely useful
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>>380687943
>phone poster
Wrong chart dumb ass, the one with actual dps numbers and not percentages, mnks couldn't even break 2900
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>>380688567
It's 6 GB.
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>>380688558
How? 24-man DF shitters already contribute like 2% raid damage, them doing 1.75% raid damage now isn't going to change much.
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>>380688558
Oh boy I can't wait to be punished even harder for incompetent healers that don't know what a room wide AOE is.
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>>380688549
>things won't matter to you when your life is ending

This is such a nonargent against anything ever holy hell
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>>380688365
FFXIV in general has a shit community at this point. You have healers bitching about other healers healing too much, DPS bitching about healers not DPSing enough, and tanks are shrugging because who the hell knows at this point.
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>>380688051

How would Dragoon and Ninja be on a controller?

It seems like maybe they'd require too many buttons.
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>>380685736
>AST (WHM, DRK)
Honestly, healers got next to nothing with this expansion. It's like they blew their load all over DPS, gave tanks some of the leftover toys and then realized "oh shit, there's a third role in this game, isn't there" at the afterparty.
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I cant decide if I should start with BRD and then do AST through fast dungeon queues or just start with AST.
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TEN
FIRE
IV
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so wait. bard has four fucking dots i have to keep up now? surely they're just upgraded versions i get in my mid 60s right?
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>>380688558
>do alliance raid at average ilvl
>get hit by meme -15% vit
>die to the next unavoidable aoe at full health
>literally 100% penalty to my offense stats
>now it's only 50%
the death debuff got SMALL you nignogg
>>
>>380688631
>not rescuing your black mages out of their leylines as soon as they put them down
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>>380688526
Unless they start giving us cliffs with death pits that we can knock enemies into (and we fucking know they won't), it will have the barest niche of applications. Like if an enemy needs to be lead somewhere and will get killed as soon as they touch the trap point, or restrained or something, a Monk could speed it up.

Fucking hooray.
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>>380688620
You already have balance that makes you a 100% pick. You don't need to have better shields than the shield healer and you don't need to have better heals than the pure healer. You have balance
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>>380688147
>>380687801
I see
Does it actually effect being able to go to any of the city-states, or do the NPCs just treat you as normal
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>>380688715
DRG was the reason I switched from controller to keyboard
fuck all those buttons

maybe it's better now with the pruning though.
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>>380688741
Yes they are. Level 64 trait.
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>>380688427
less movement means more dps you brainlet
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>New Tomes of Regional Folklore
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>>380685408

>The poofy sleeves on the female RDM set
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>>380688782
no but some npcs will talk about how you aren't supposed to be there and you should leave
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>Let's fuck up war and drk so people can jump to PLD until 4.1

Yoshi you weren't slick
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>download speed 0.04MB/s

The fuck is happening with the game launcher?
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>Not only Chain strategem has been nerf to 15% from the previous build 20% its cooldown has been increased from 90sec to 120sec
It was literally thing that kept me going after the bane nerf and the complete shit on on our DPS
We can't even have that.
Oh but AST can heal more than WHM, shield more than SCH, heal more than SCH in nocturnal, have fucking incredible utility and still do more DPS than SCH.
That's ok.
Everything is fine.
Yep.
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>>380688631
because playing a perfect dance is boring as fuck

i queue up DF with shitters to see to what extent i can push utility skills
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>>380688782
nah, you can do all the stuff you could do normally, it only affects the story so don't worry too much about that
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>>380688709
With the autism that the community has about healers, and the changes to the three jobs,

Fuck being a healer.

I'm going to go BLM and have a fun time making things explode instead of catering to whining autism.
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>>380688741
4 dots?
while smn only has 2?
C
U
C
K
E
D
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PATCH READING IS LIVE CHECK TWITCH
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Goodnight bros. See you in SB.
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>>380688898
>until 4.1
You're in the shed until 5.0
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>>380688620
I don't even play a healing class but seeing people trying to downplay AST in this thread is funny as hell, just accept that you're by far the best healer now dude, laugh at the cucks like WAR and SCH did for years instead of tryjng to be a low tier hero.
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>>380688427
>cleric
>raidwide damage
>5%, for a measly fifteen seconds, on a healer, with NINETY second cooldown

>surecast
>don't have to move around so knockbacks don't kill you, you just keep casting, increasing dps
>mere 20 second downtime means you can cheese it EVERY time it happens
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>>380688745
Vit doesn't matter you NIGGER, the only way these raids get done is by random people shitting out DPS
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>>380684910
I felt masturbatory while reading the job changes to NIN today.
>tfw your favorite Job gets even better.
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>>380688965
g'night pupper
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>>380688959
OH GOD ITS TRUE
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>>380688976
Or I can unsub until this hack learns now to leave shit alone
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>>380689019
can't do DPS when you're dead
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>>380688936
Don't forget Aetherflow nerf and fairy casualization :^)
>>
so is foe requiem a damage increase for the party or a damage decrease for the enemy?
>>
>PvP potencies

How fast are people doing to die?
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>>380688959
NO TRANSLATOR-CHAN WTF
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Stay away from my job, reeeeeee!
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>>380688861
Alright so your justification for taking Surecast over consistent raidwide damage is based on the assumption that every tier of Omega Savage will have constant knockback and draw-in effects where you have to use it on cooldown.

Alright, bud.
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>>380686729
MNK needs a full mausoleum.
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>>380689062
most fucks don't do dps when they're alive
wipes are a fact of life
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>>380689107
Not fast enough because 1 potency = 1 damage
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>>380689091
>Increases damage taken by nearby enemies by 3%. MP is drained while singing. Effect is lost if targets move out of hearing distance, and ends upon reuse.
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>>380688954
i did this during HW and i'll probably not switch back for a while
>big dick explosions
>creative mechanics solving with aether manip
>support skills
>incinerate every dungeon pull without needing that SCH to do anything
BLM is fun and not overpowered enough to attract any kind of autism to it
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>>380688898
They did the same thing with over buffing ast. Game isn't balanced until they get nerfed
>>
>DRG and NIN get buffed to fuck
it's all I could've hope for and more
>>
FULL PATCH NOTES

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/296b070f41c0e0dedae24de50ae7c51abfa95055
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>>380688776
AST doesn't have better heals than WHM, because WHM has several more healing spells that don't even exist on AST. People keep spouting this retarded "AST is a better healer hurr durr" meme just because AST has like 10 more potency on Benefic II as compared to Cure II now and it's fucking retarded

>Bitching about SCH's shields
This is the problem with the FFXIV community, they feel that because a job starts with something it needs to be the best at it for the rest of the time. Identities change all the fucking time, but aside from that, SCH's identity never revolved around its shields, it revolved around being an extremely versatile, skillful healer with a wide range of helpful tools and the fairy to aid them. This fucking retardation that
>HURR DURR ADLO EXISTS THEREFORE IT WAS THE SHIELD HEALER
was fucking retarded. The whole debate of AST vs. SCH was never about shields, and it never will be. If it was, AST would have replaced SCH long ago; their shields are ALREADY better. No, what makes SCH so disgustingly mandatory is their OP toolkit and fairy.
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>>380688005
>COME FORTH SCALES OF REVELATION

>no
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>people stopped shilling this shitty WoW clone in every MMO article
I don't know if your game is dead or not but good riddance.
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>>380689232
https://www.diffchecker.com/RGJNTSvX

not much different if you already read the prelims
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>>380689140
So don't fucking take surecast once you know the fight doesn't have knockbacks, dumbass
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>>380689208
>people were trying to claim BLM was going into the cuckshed because of slight potency nerfs on F4/F2

Many keks were had lads
>>
So no more Flare in aoe for BLM?
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>>380689383
you'll still use it
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>>380689313
>expansion literally comes out tomorrow
>I don't know if your game is dead or not
>actually perusing MMO articles
lmao
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>>380688120
Tried. Can't. Gonna stay up until I can't stay up any longer.
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>>380689221
>DRG class quest is named Friends Through Eternity
What does it mean?
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>Finally get Ala Mhigo expansion
>Have to share it with Doma
What did they mean by this?
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>>380689208
>being able to Aether manip away from an AoE, then zoom back to your leylines the moment it ends
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>>380688957
>>380688741
BRD only has 2 dots, they get upgraded at 64.
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>>380687590
Should I have a boner from this?
>>
>>380689353
Why would you default to it if you didn't know the fight had them to begin with?
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>>380685736

JOB: DRG right now, interested in PLD/SAM/RDM.

Happy/Disappoint: I love that PLD is now a proper holy knight/magical knight. Even if they get nerfed I am sure they will be a lot more fun to play than I was told they were beforehand. For DRG I like blood for blood change, I really like the fang-claw/wheel thrust change as higher end bosses were making positioning difficult/impossible or irrelevant but I did like the challenge so it's a mixed bag.

Doom spike + Sonic Thrust now makes for a good AOE combo compared to "heavy thrust then have to figure out where the fuck the enemy's flank is when the Tank pulled everything and is jostling due to AOEs" so that's good. Dragon sight sounds like a nice utility.

I have to wait and see how it handles but I'm happy. Not sure if I'll be okay with the slow pace to develop to reach Nastrond but 320 potency is more than the 200 potency of Geirskogul so it's prob worth it.
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>>380689325
job guide tho
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>>380689383
There's no reason not to use it, what're you going to do? You can spam Foul and you shouldn't spam Thunder IV, so what do you think is the next best option?
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>>380689208
I played it for the better part of 3.4-3.5. These changes are looking pretty great, imo. Triple cast and the leyline warp for better mobility. Surecast preventing forced movement. AF time extension. Enochian not droping, Thunder 4 and foul for better aoe. Feels good man.
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>>380684327
It was always 10% you idiot. Shippu was 15%/
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>>380688549
says the guy arguing on fucking 4chan lol
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>>380688120
I am too upset to sleep. SCH,SMN and War all got put into the cuck shed and those were the only classes I leveled up. I now have to palace ast, drg and pld if I want to try catching up in time for relevant content
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>>380689586
>You can spam Foul
No you can't. Foul requires the Polyglot status which you can only get after being in Enochian for 30 seconds. It also removes Polyglot when you cast it.
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>>380689470
That japs can't be trusted with story telling because they'll wank to their own shitty culture at every opportunity?
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>>380689470
Gotta get that weeb dosh
>>
>>380689586
Can't spam Foul*
>>
Even if you main a tank or healer you should level up one of the current dps first. There will be a massive amount of dps leveling RDM and SAM so it will make the queue times reasonable on the first day and you will be able to do the instant queues later for your tanks and healers.
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>>380689009
>5% every 15 seconds with 90s cooldown
>when a healer has to try really hard to break 10% in the first place
this retard is being glad that he's getting a pre-buff balance. on a nondps class. oh wait, not even pre-buff balance was that shit
>>
>>380689468
hopefully an adventure with Estinien to bring Ysayle back because primals are complicated
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>>380685736
>Paladin.
I'm glad I stuck with it this whole time.
>>
>>380689470
japan will take every opportunity to fellate itself.
>>
>skillspeed now affects auto attacks
how good will this be for pld?
>>
>>380689694
my current plan is to level up MCH and DRK (don't meme at me you fuckers) simultaneously
>>
Guess I'll roll out my ilvl 230 ninja that I haven't played in the longest time and go through the story with that.

PotD sucks and monk is absolutely destroyed now
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>>380685736
>YOUR MAIN JOB
DRK

>>380685736
>HOW HAPPY/DISAPPOINTED YOU ARE WITH THESE CHANGES
I'm pretty excited. Super excited. I'll get over the loss of Scourge eventually.
>>
>tfw can't stop listening to the Garlean Anthem
AHHHHHH BEYOND MAJESTIC MOUNTAINS, ACROSS THE LANDS OF DEUM
>>
DRG/SAM/NIN/BRD CONFIRMED DPS META
>>
How many hours till the servers come up?
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>>380689009
Increasing your damage by "cheesing" is based ENTIRELY on the assumption that those mechanics are in the fight to begin with. If you actually raid in this video game, you know those instances are few and far between.
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>>380689694
>tfw going to level dps first for that sweet MSQ exp, and beat all of the nerds stuck in potd
>tfw going to level healers and pld after that
It's perfect.
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>>380689840
Theyve been up
>>
As a NIN main, I'm really happy with all the buff. Gonna play NIN to 70 first before bothering with other jobs.
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>>380689756
Meh
People don't know that sword oath loses potency the faster your auto attacks come out
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>Buy game because Red Mage fuck yes
>Take my time leveling, Stormblood areas will be crowded anyway
>Just finish 2.0 story tonight
>All my friends except Alphinaud and Cid are fucking dead
>I'm a fugitive hiding in Coerthas
>Alphinaud is emo now
what the fuck was the reaction when this came out? The only part I saw coming at all was the Crystal Braves
>>
>>380689840
5 hours
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>>380689840
4 and 1/2.
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>>380689840
5 hours 20 minutes.
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>>380689929
The ending of 2.x was fantastic. Brace yourself for what comes next. You won't like it.
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>>380689816
I have a feeling one of the melee might be swapped with blm if the raids need addle, but that pld mitigation is stronk.
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>>380689840
THEY'RE UP RIGHT NOW GET ON BEFORE THE NORMALFAGS GET IN
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>>380689929
He's not that emo now.
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>>380689862
>next spell will not be interrupted
It can also be used to heal through unavoidable damage, you know
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>>380689929
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/search?q=2.55&restrict_sr=on
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>>380689956
It actually is
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>>380688959
>jap only
>someone using a power tool in the background

fuck this i'm taking a nap
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>>380688776
The only good use for balance is to pad your personal dps
If you have to rely on rng to beat any fight on this game I fell sorry for you
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how much of these complaints overblown exaggeration, considering that base stats have been overhauled too and nobody has actually played any of Stormblood in any meaningful capacity?
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>>380688872
Infinitely better than the previous method of getting folklore tomes, sit the fuck down.
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>>380690070
ikr
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>>380690108

WHM complaints are legit because it's not about numbers, it's about a poorly designed mechanic
>>
>>380690108
We won't even get savage content for 4 weeks.
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>>380690218
>>380690218
>>380690218
Next thread
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>>380690108
unless some magical new formula is being applied to shoulder tackle, the riddles are fucking stupid
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>>380689809
FOR GLORY, GARLEMALD
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>>380689928
i didn't know that. is it tied to some weird potency per minute calculation, so you'll get around the same effect out of sword oath regardless of attack speed? thanks m8
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>>380690108
Monk will still be a pile of shite. Nothing new to keep my interest in the job.
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>>380688485
Such a delicia
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>>380690108

All 3 tanks will be viable in all 3 roles except DRK OT

AST is legitimately broken and AST/AST has a very real chance of being the meta

I don't know/care about the DPS meta
>>
>Mr Happy said the leaked patch notes were fake
>They were real
Everytime
>>
>There is a 20% chance that party members are granted a Confession each time you heal their HP via Cure and Cure II.
>Confession Duration: 30s
>30s

How the fuck is this supposed to be useful? It obviously could not possibly function as an aoe heal under any feasible circumstances, and the probability of getting the full potency is shit.

All this is is an occasional weak tank heal which most of the time you won't even need. What a garbage level 70 skill.
>>
>>380689756
Gotta build that gauge nigger>>380689928
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>>380684529
RDM. I've been waiting for this moment since launch.
>>
>>380685736
>MCH
Eh... I will play it because I like the stzle, but to be honest: I didn't mind the cast time not the opener. If anything I suspect we will have longer periods of just pressing 1 because lol ammo, along with the absolutely frustrating fact that our DPS gets gimped for 10+ seconds each time after overheating. Also, no idea if MCH can still be considered support next to BRD who seems to have a lot more consistend output and a fuckton of buffs and a job system that doesn't punish you.
>>
To everyone saying NIN will be OP: You're wrong lol.

Auto attacks are affected by poison anymore. Thats huge. Its the only reason the other buffs even exist. We're going to lose dps if anything.
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post yfw PLD not only got buffed times infinity but it ALSO got an amazing sprint animation

IT'S OUR TIME
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