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Why are people saying Nintendo won E3?

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Mario Odyssey looks amazing but you can't win E3 by showing a 3D platformer that no one is surprised looks beautiful and has new game mechanic.

You can't win E3 by saying "Hey Pokemon and Metroid is coming"

You can't win by a lack of risk and imagination Yoshi 2D game.

Did we get any information on VC? Paid Online? media for the Switch?

So someone tell me how Nintendo did better than everyone else?
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>>380681352

Nintendo did what Sony had been doing since PS4 so I don't see why not
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>>380682829
Because it's only okay when Sony does it apparently
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>>380681352
You left out Metroid, Xenoblade 2, Ever Oasis, Miitopia, and FE Warriors.

Dumb gafposter probably didn't watch the Treehouse stream
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>>380681352
They won by being the only decent, dumb gaffer
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>>380683125
You forgot Pokemon maingame on Switch.
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>>380681352
/v/ loves nintendo
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>>380683386
>You forgot Pokemon maingame on Switch.
Stars is real?
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>>380683125

>forgetting the sushi game

Nice try, falseflag sonybro. No need to be jealous of our games.
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>TWO (2) Metroids
>mainline Pokemon on switch confirmation
>Odyssey
>Yoshi
>Kirby
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>>380681352
Announcements of future announcements of course
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>>380681352
Because everyone else blew total dick. Nintendo took the gold medal at the special Olympics this year.
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WE
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>>380681352
I would say sega won e3 with sonic mania

but mario odyssey looks cool

sony and microsoft just can't compete
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>>380681352
It wasn't their best E3 ever, but Sony and Microsoft were so garbage that they went from "pretty neat shit" to "winner of e3" pretty easily
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>>380681352
2 metroids alone is enough to win me over.
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>>380683640

*gets perm for perfect afro*
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Well for one, most of what was announced was for 2017.

Even Xenoblade surprisingly is Holiday 2017 and the devs even said if they had 2 more weeks they could've got the English voices in for their demo so localization is probably pretty far along too.

Sony's presentation was 10% 2017, 20% VR 2018 and 70% early 2018-2018.

Yes Ni no Kuni 2 (a multiplat by the way) and Knack 2 are coming 2017 but they didn't showcase them sadly.

Also their closing trailer (Spiderman) doesn't stack up against Mario Odyssey's amazing trailer.
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People don't understand how huge pokemon on switch is to pokefans. /vp/ was collectively losing its mind.
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Sony went all out last year and I don't buy xbox anymore so I don't really care.

I think the games look super fun, even if they're rehashes. I don't have a switch and i probably won't but it looks FUN
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Nintendo and Sony, if you exclude the VR games, had a pretty equal amount of decent exclusives, so it comes down to which of the games people are most interested in.
Also, the treehouse setup is just completely superior to the trailers and """"""""gameplay"""""""" demos Sony and the others do.
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>microsoft's announcements were mostly old shit on the PC
>sony's announcements were ONLY old shit, with the exception of MH which is on PC
hmm yeah I wonder
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>>380683793
Metroid Prime 4 and Pokemon are 2019 or 2020 and they're one of the main reasons people say Nintendo won.
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>>380681352
They announced new games that people despite wanting really badly, just weren't expecting. Almost nobody genuinely thought we'd hear about a new Metroid game, let alone 2. After Pokemon USUM zero people thought we'd be getting confirmation of Pokemon coming to Switch. As well as pleasant surprises like Kirby, Yoshi, and Rocket league. And even another pleasant surprise in showing that Switch is going to have cross-play with XBox and PC in some titles.

Only disappointment was no SMTV, Octopath, or Travis Touchdown game shown. And despite not giving a fuck about other games coming to Switch that I can already play on PC, it is concerning that they didn't show off almost any other 3rd party titles like a downgraded CoD WWII.

Bottom line is that big announcements, especially those out of left field are what win E3. And Metroid Prime 4 was huge and incredibly unexpected.
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>>380681352
>you don't win E3 by announcing good games

Child detected.
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I think that everyone had a decent e3 this year

Nintendo announced several games for Switch and there are several upcoming 3DS games as well

Sony has several surprises for TGS and PSX

Xbox is even releasing a very powerful console and unifying PC gaming as well
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>>380684050

I love how people lost their shit the first time ninty didn't show at E3 for a presentation. Now everyone loves that treehouse more than anything.
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>>380681352

You need SJW-approved games with sassy black afro-haired women to win in the current year, right Sonygro?
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Because they showed a game that didn't look shit. No one else did that.
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Both Metroid Prime and Pokemon Switch will most definitely come out before shit like Kingdom Hearts 3 which has been announced in 2013.
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>>380684172
>All the other games were 2017 so obviously the two games that are not 2017 have to be 2019 and 2020
???
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>>380684172
I wouldn't say that mainline poikemon to be a reason Nintendo won, but Metroid Prime 4 is equivalent to TLG, FFVII Remake and Shenmue III because after the last 2 badly received games it was a surprise that Nintendo still had plans for the series.

It goes without saying that the long drought between well received Metroid games makes it understandable to see how people would react in that matter.

Metroid 2 remake is the cherry on top though and getting both announced on the same day with Samus Returns only about 3 months out is a pretty big deal because it shows that the franchise truly isn't dead in the water and there's hope for other more smaller selling franchises in Nintendo's catalog.
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>>380681352
>Mario Odyssey looks amazing
bitch what? It looks gimmicky as fuck like sunshine, except where the gimmick of sunshine fit neatly into the base platforming and expanded it in new directions, every time they showed off Odyssey they kept using the bullet bills to fucking skip big chunks of platforming entirely with zero skill.
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>>380683489
Not sure if it's stars but something is coming.
I'm more inclined to think a new generation.
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are you fucking retarded OP?
if you like sony e3, sony wins for you, if you like microsoft e3, they win for you, the ones that claim nintendo won e3 are the ones who like them, why you fucking care about who win, its about YOU, no what other thinks, you dont need everyon to agree with you ffs
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>>380684497
No, the two games that are literally a titlecard and spoken word only are 2019 or later because there is nothing to show.
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>>380681352

Honestly at this point I thought it was a meme because people say this literally every year, and would continue saying it literally every year even if Miyamoto got up on stage, took a shit on a silver platter, and said "This is all we have this year".
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>>380681352
>Did we get any information on VC?
please let us rebuy our games like papa sony lets us
>Paid Online?
why are we only forced to pay $20, we want to pay $60 like papa sony says is the best price
>media for the Switch?
we want to watch things to distract us from no games like papa sony allows us.
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>>380681352
nintendo brought metroid4, pokemon, kirby,yoshi,metroid remake, superstarsaga remake, and give plenty of info on the already anounced titles.

Sony just brough info on anounced titles and most of them are not playable to the public or still have a lot of info unkown or were multiplat.
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>>380684596
Wow it's like.. when you play the game.. you can just .. like.. you know.. not .. do .. that.

Also they only showed early levels, you really think they're going to show the whole game in the first fucking trailers they put out?
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>>380681352
>looks beautiful

WHAT???
DID YOU SEE THE TEXTURES?
LITERALLY GC TIER TEXTURES
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Nobody won E3 tbqh
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>>380684748
nobody said it about E3 2015. fuck off with your revisionist history sonygg.
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>>380681352

They were the only one with meaningful exclusives and the only one with a lineup for this year. Once they got into treehouse stuff it wasn't even a competition.

Mario coming this year
New 2D Metroid coming this year
Ever Oasis coming this year
Fire Emblem Warriors coming this year
Xenoblade 2 coming this year
Mario + Rabbids coming this year
Mario and Luigi SS remake coming this year

Yoshi in 2018
Kirby in 2018

Pokemon on the way
Metroid Prime 4 on the way
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>You can't win E3 by saying Metroid Prime 4 is coming
Yes you can
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>>380681352
In 2014 they did the opposite and only announced titles that would be coming out in the near future, and that is widely regarded as one of Nintendos worse E3s, so they listened to fans and announced games people wanted, even if they weren't ready to be shown off.

So it's basically your fault for hating 2014.
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>a stupid rabbid game showed more promise than any game the competition showed
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>>380681352
2 separate polls, top one by a normal op, bottom one by someone that got butmad in the first one's thread and made a separate thread and poll for themself, both show that Nintendo overwhelmingly won E3 this year.
So pack up and get out xbots and sonybros
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>>380684981
Sorry I meant 2015.
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>>380684872

Fuck off with your falseflagging you retard. It's said every year and you know it.
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Let's not forget the Splatoon 2 and ARMS tournaments that no one thought were going to be good but in the end turned out hype as fuck.
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>>380683489
The rep from the Pokemon Co straight up said the words "core RPG Pokemon game for the Switch is in development"
This means 1 of 2 things:
Stars / Gen 4 remakes / Gen 8 are on Switch
or
Colloseum 3 on Switch

it's perfect either way.
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>>380684068
>nintendo announces kiddie shit, overly made franchices and literally a logo from a irrelevant game
hmmmmm
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>>380681352
>You can't win a games show by showing games, ESPECIALLY good games!
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>>380685198
>I only play mature games for mature gamers such as myself!
*tips fedora*
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>>380685106
>sonygg too retarded to know what a false flag is while reimagining the past
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>>380685047
>polling on /v/ means something

/v/ is filled with drones, they would say Nintendo won no matter what.

Its akin to going to a democratic rally and asking if Hilary is better than Trump.

All of them will say yes, but that doesnt mean she is because since the parties arent equally represented the voting doesnt mean nothing on a large scale.
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>>380685327
Then pray tell, where exactly should we go to get an unbiased reperesentstion of who won E3?
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How about you tell me what anyone else did that makes them deserve to "win".
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>>380685047
>opinions are facts
N toddler logic
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What I really like and find absolutely funny about the MS and Sony conferences is that none of their games are exclusives anymore.

They just announce games I will buy on PC instead.
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>>380685106
>>380685323
It's said every year because /v/ is not one person and you will see every kind of opinion at some point, you dumb dumbs.
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>>380685047

>Polls the exact same people and expects different results

What the fuck is up with /v/ and not understanding statistics?
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>>380685327
Its funny considering how loud and obnoxious the anti nintendo side has been on /v/ for the last couple of years.

Even funnier that sonyggs are retarded /pol/ rejects.
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>>380685425
>"who won E3 this year?" (asks a question about an opinion where the answers are all opinions)
>opinions don't count btw
???
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>>380685323

>literally no one on /v/ said Nintendo won in 2015
>Literally no one on the entire site said this, not even in jest
>not even one single person
>not even as a joke
>not a single solitary living human bean dip

That's what you're implying and that's why you're retarded.
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>>380685453
Pretty much.
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>>380685549
Well for starters that would require critical thinking, something I think we can safely say is in rare supply around these parts
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>>380685790
If you remove the VR shit for Sony, the list shrinks a lot.
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>>380683640
WUZ
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>>380685414
Why sonyGA- I-I mean NwoGAF of course!
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>>380685790
PS4 is missing Dissidia and Valkyria Revolution.
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>>380685414
No where, because its a subjective opinion.
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>>380686371
Then why do we keep having these threads?
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>>380685303
>d-dont describe like that, the game that i've been buying over and over the past decade
*Wahoo intensifies*
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>>380685549
The point is that the guy making the second poll was saying that the first poll was hit by Nintendo bot votes, so he made a more secure poll to get the "real" results. Then they were exactly the same.
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>>380686371

The fuck? Are you telling me that different people are excited for different games and therefore have different impressions as to which presentations won them over the most?

Clearly you don't belong here.
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>>380686252
Those weren't shown at E3, were they?
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>>380681352
>lack of risk and imagination Yoshi 2D game.
Nigger that Yoshi game has more imagination in its pinky toe than your entire family line could ever hope to achieve.
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>showing a logo is enough to win e3 and make every hater butthurt

This E3 was the best.
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>>380685159
Pokken too. Top pro Pokken player got BTFO'd by devs.
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>>380681352
Okay then OP, how does a company win E3?
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>>380685615
>i still don't understand that for having a actually good poll and avoid shitposting, first we have to define best (i.e. # of games showed)
now i remember where i am
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>>380681352
It's the fact that metroid prime 4 exists that matters, this is the equivalent of half like 3 being announced or mother 3 being brought to the west. stuff like this is huge and brings in hype and exitement from not just fans but everyone around, just look at final fantasy 7 remake or yooka laylee.
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>>380686552
As opposed to Call of Duty #100, or Fifa 100, or any other sport game or generic brown/grey shooter #100?
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>>380687123
>my opinion of best (# of games shown) is objectively correct and everyone else is wrong
>you're not allowed to say best = least time spent not on games, best = most amount of gameplay shown and not cinematic scripted trailers, or any other meaning of best
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>>380686879
yeah because we cant define a objective parameter for to be consider a winner, right?
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>>380687471

We literally can't. Like, we actually 100% literally in reality actually cannot on /v/.
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>>380687275
>implying
>generic
this coming from someone that still buy nintendo shit, weeeew
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>>380681352
Nintendo won because nothing that was announced by Sony was worth mentioning, and MS was just average. By default, all Nintendo had to do was announce something people care about, and they won. Instead, they announced Prime 4, Pokemon on Switch, and Metroid DS, which pretty much wrapped things up. It wasn't a hard year, as MS was the only competition.

This is all coming from a PC Idort who doesn't own any of the three consoles.
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Nintendo showed interesting and exciting exclusives. Everyone else showed trash and multiplats. GG no re.
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>>380681352
>show off Mario
>say Pokemon and Metroid are coming with no footage to show off
>still won E3
Holy fuck how bad did Sony and Microsoft shit the bed? And how salty are the tears?
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>>380687387
>i dont understand examples
>i dont realize if we define as best exclusives shown nintendo won, if # games shown microsoft won, etc, etc.
maybe this is why you dont get paid by defending nintendo, lmao
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>dapped
Wait a second
Is that the bizarro black /pol/ but here they still hate leafs for being shitposters?
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They won simply because Xbox has committed suicide for all E3's from last year to the foreseeable future (EXCLUSIVE TO XBOX......and PC) and Sony keeps doing their boring tactic of ""gameplay"" videos of games everyone knows will come out
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>>380688183
>implying
>generic
this coming from someone that still buy cawadoody shit, weeeew
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>>380684809
No I think that if their gimmick expanded on the basic platforming in new and interesting ways instead of just giving you ways to skip things that are too hard for you they would have shown that during one of the biggest marketing events of the year for gaming you dumb shit.
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>>380689424
>master of implying
>cawadoody
Yeah n toddler confirmed
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>>380685047
this basically sums it up. if you want to mix in the non-big three, then even ubisoft had a better show than sony. Microsoft was alright, basically back to being king of power on consoles like back in OG Xbox days and the games held my interest more than Sony's
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>>380681352
I think they "won" because Sony shot themselves in the foot with the same exact show from last year and because Microsoft has been trying less and less to compete with everyone else and trying to make consumers happy. I was getting the impression Nintendo wanted to make a strong showing with the Switch to avoid what they had on the Wii U, and showing their heavy-hitter IPs one after another on top of holding tournaments and regular gameplay/Q&A sessions I feel accomplished that; it totally helps that Metroid made a strong comeback after the disaster of Federation Force too.
>Did we get any information on VC? Paid Online? media for the Switch?
This actually ticked me off though, and that's why I hesitate to call their E3 showing a great showing. From what I hear, VC's going to be a Netflix-like subscription where you pay a monthly fee and get to rent unlimited games, and I think that's a garbage way of handling it because it assumes players will be playing these old games over the one-time purchased newer games, it operates that you'll always be connected to a wi-fi source, and it'll be limited in what you can and can't rent from now til the end of the console lifespan, have fun playing Super Mario Bros. 2 for 5 years while you wait for that Mother 3 localization to drop. The best way of handling Virtual Console still remains a one-time fee for game and you can play it anywhere you go, no questions asked.
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>>380686924
Dissidia was shown on yesterday's Twitch show, don't know about Valkyria.
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>>380684596
>There will be bullet bills in ever level, in every platform section
How can you be this retarded?
In sunshine, however, you did have fludd all the time, with the exception of secret levels.
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>>380685327
Does this fucking image seriously need to be posted any more

Nice bait cuckold
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>>380684172
Normies gonna normie, Metroid and Pokemon still make people act like fucking animals when you bring them up in any discussion, of course those were gonna be the two most talked-about up against stuff like Xenoblade and Yoshi.
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>>380684560
>because after the last 2 badly received games it was a surprise that Nintendo still had plans for the series
Not to anyone with a brain. They said the entire time they still has plans for Prime games and 2D games, /v/ shitters just didn't believe them because then their "this spinoff is killimg Metroid" narrative would fall apart.
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>>380690289
>normie
Fuck off, normalfag.
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>>380690132
>i-it's okay because it MIGHT not be displaying some truly braindead retarded design philosophy in EVERY level
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>>380686252
Revolution is actually gonna hit Xbone in the States too, and even then, it's confirmed to be hot garbage by the Nips who played it, so why even bother?
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they won cuz of mario and rabbids obviously
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SUPER

MARIO

ODYSSEY
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So, did they announce a switch remodel that doesn't fuck up its own screen?
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>>380690672
It's been 3 months and I have STILL not seen anyone else who has had their screen scratched by the dock.
>He fell for the meme
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>>380690521
>actually looks like a really good Xcom-like
>the Mario universe humor and charm is still there
>Grant Kirkhope is doing the music
>RABBID
>KONG
>managed to turn laughter over a shit leaked idea into praise and discussion in just one trailer
I never thought I'd see the day where Ubisoft makes a good post-RR2 game with those little bastards in it.
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>>380690382
>I saw there were a couple of places during the gameplay where some minor platforming could be flown over by becoming a bullet bill
>I now have enough information to deduce that this will be EVERYWHERE
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>>380681352
short actually showed vidya no cringy diversity shit
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>>380690672
>>380690917
Literally just fashionize your dock on top of it if you're really worried.
>got an A.C. Moore membership when buying portrait frames the other day
>shitload of fabric on display when I glanced over in the aisles
I'm ready.
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>>380691457
That fabric looks pretty rough. Id say itll scratch it anyway.

I bought screen protectors for my DS and Wii U. This should be the best solution.
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>>380690917
it's not a meme when you see this shit:
>>380691457

Also, did they ever fix the fact that the left joycon HAS NO ANTENNA?
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>>380681352
>lack of risk and imagination Yoshi 2D game.
>Game looks somehow even more adorable than WW
>Sending shyguys and background props flying
>All those little details going on in the back
I mean, it's clear this is only a tech demo, it doesn't even have a proper name and theme yet but it already looks great. I just hope they change the flowers and red coins as collectables though, I actually think the fruit system from Yoshi's Story would work perfectly with this idea, or at least something similar that forces you to try and discover more secret stuff than just 5 or so flowers.
On the other side, I don't want to overhype myself with this like I did with WW, not that it was a bad game but it was waaay too short and it had some amazing ideas that were underused, the curtain levels were fun as fuck and the velcro-like level was top tier desing but they were just soo few of them it ended up being disappointing by the end.
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>>380681352
IT'S OVER SONY. I HAVE THE HYPE NOW
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I thought every company did a good job (sans EA).
But no one clearly won.
Sony showed some great gameplay & trailers, but lacked any big surprises (SotC was cool).
Microsoft showed a ton of games (many looked great, many looked boring). But they had barely any exclusives (the few they had were pretty meh)
Nintendo had a few good announcements, and showed great gameplay (Mario looks great, Kirby looks cool, Warriors is alright, Metroid 2 looks neat) But damn their presentation was awful, and some of the announcements were laughable. Announcing development on Metroid Prime and Pokemon was some investor meeting level shit. You don't put those awful announcement in your 'spotlight' unless you can actually show something (even a CG video -- literally anything).

I dunno, maybe ubisoft won, but even that wasn't mind-blowing.
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>>380692568
You won
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>>380681352
>You cannot win E3 by showing a game with good gameplay and a new mechanic

what
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Nintendo won E3
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>>380681352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXABgIF-Wjg
There's your answer.
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>>380682829
>>380682990
Nintendo had games.
Sony had """"""""""""""""""games"""""""""""""""""".
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>>380685198
>nintendo announces games for kids
>meanwhile sony announces literal movies for invalids
Talk about almond activation.
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>>380681352
Because they showed one good game more than any one else. Maybe they only showed one game, but that should be enough to answer your question.
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>>380681352

You can't win E3 with a remake

You can't win E3 with cutscenes and a title screen

You can't win with a recycled game formula

You can't win with a third party action game story driven

See how you can easily say the same shit bitch?
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Nintendo did not win e3. You got to show something, you can't just show up.
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>>380683520

>yfw pcbros will never ever get sushi game
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>>380694034
But Nintendo did basically all those things.
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>ITS OK WHEN SONY DOES IT
Ea won e3 btw stupid coons
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Microsoft said hey we don't really care about xbox so please make sure you get a pc for windows 10 the games are here.

Sony should movies and vr shit. I'm more surprised at the vr shit because you think Microsoft would be the one advertising that. To make it worst Spiderman look like shit. The first thing I thought was why does Sony make him web swing like the 1967 version of Spiderman.

Nintendo just showed games outside of announcing a Metroid game and pokemon with no video the rest of their shit showed gameplay. Whether you think it's good or not is a different story.
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>>380684172
>Pokemon guy clearly says they just need a year
>2019 and 2020
???
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>>380694538
>You can't win with a third party action game story driven
No they didn't
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>>380694538
The differences between Metroid 2 Return of Samus and Metroid Samus Returns will be greater than differences between Uncharted and Uncharted 4, to call it just a remake is being obtuse, yeah you're a dumbass.
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>>380681352
>nigger is a sony fanboy
okay blackbond
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