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How do you go from this...
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>>380628905
To this?
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WE
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Can't wait to see how the queen looks
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>>380628962
>Developed by the people who made Lord of Shadows
And dropped, game's going to be garbage.
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>>380629093
We already saw her in Other M.
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nearly 30 years is a long time
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>>380629093
I'm interested in Omega Metroids. They were always my favorite.
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>>380630402
>>380630402
Wasn't an Omega the final boss of Fusion?

I doubt they will change it's design too much just for consistency sake
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Why would they include qte?
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>>380631612
Where? There are no button prompts
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>>380628905
Do people actually think the original evolved Metroid fights were good?
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Its been shown at the Tree-house at the moment. Be ready for shit.
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>>380631875
I sure as fuck hope not. AM2R made them fun, and MSR looks like it's keeping that trend going.
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game live now at e3
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>>380631612
Do you consider the parry in MGR to be a QTE?
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>>380632527
This thing
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>>380628905
This looks sweet as fuck. What's supposed to be wrong?
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>>380632601
grab attacks aren't qtes but they don't belong in metroid, I'd prefer to remain in control 100% of the time
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>>380632527
parries are a QTE, just lacks the button prompt. literally after you parry a boss attack the rest plays itself without your interaction
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>>380628905
>>380628962
Good design decisions.
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>>380632601
This is a cutscene dingus, you don't need to press anything
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>>380632740
have people forgotten what qtes are?
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>>380632740
Shooting a gun is a QTE, it just lacks a button prompt. Literally after you shoot the rest plays out without your interaction
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>>380628905
A couple decades of technological progress helps a lot
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>>380632905
besides aiming, right?

>>380632898
push buttan
receve cutscene
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>>380633004
>push buttan
>receve cutscene
besides timing, right?
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>>380633004
Besides timing your parry right? Besides facing the right direction right and being in the right place right?

Holy shit are you retarded
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YOU CAN EVEN DECIDE WHICH WEAPON TO USE IN THE GRAB AND EVEN SWITCH MID GRAB

THAT NOT A CUTSCENE FUCKERS
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I still like how it looks. I'll take what I can get. Besides we got TWO METROIDS. That kind of shit only happens once in a blue moon, you ungrateful fucks.
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>>380629138
>implying is the same director
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>>380632740
The counters have a lot more in common with Devil May Cry's context sensitive attacks.
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>>380632898
Yes, they have.
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>>380631875
I think and I love them. M2 is the only one in the series that feels like a horror game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Cm8J07ehsI
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>>380633169
>>380633189
and just like have QTEs have timing

woop woop fags
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>>380633534
so any sort of counter or contextual attack in a game is a qte?
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>>380628905
Just remove Mercurysteam from the equation. I'm getting LoS vibes from all these cutscenes. I hope we don't get mid battle checkpoints and worthless systems as well.

I don't want this to be fucked up but I'm seriously afraid.
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>>380633534
Just like aiming has timing whoa! Damn platforming is QTE as well! Everything is a QTE now, even moving forward is!

Also, damn, how could I forget? Parrying obviously needs no self-initiated positioning at all!
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>>380633254

>That kind of shit only happens once in a blue moon

Given that blue moons happen about ever 3 years, even less common.
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MEGATON

THE GAME DIRECTOR IS HOSHOKAWA


THE GUY THAT DIRECTED METROID 2 AND THE WARIO LAND GAMES
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>>380633663
>parry a metroid attack
>you lose control of your character while it plays out
I understand you dont understand, but please understand.

If you counter, in say Breath of the Wild with a SHIELD PARRY, you have control of link still. But if you dodge slowdown time thingy and mash Y.

two different things.

please understand, one is a QTE, the other is good mechanics.

>>380633831
Now you are just throwing a temper tantrum because you lost the argument and you are desperate to get the last word
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>>380633534
>press the attack button
>in-engine "cutscene" of player attacking, often without any interaction until the attack is finished

Fucking QTE's man, infecting every single game.
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>>380634215
So you can't refute my point that parrying takes more than pressing a button?
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>>380634215
>parry laser in BOTW
>in game cutscene plays out of laser deflecting back, can't do anything
Damn QTEs!
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Why did the babby in super metroid become a giant floating one but all these other metroids have these random sizes and shapes? Why didn't babby in super metroid evolve?
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>>380634215
How about reversal attacks in Kingdom Hearts 2? Press Triangle at the right timing for a special event to happen, is that a QTE?
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>>380634439
That was never a point to begin with. My point is Samus Returns is filled with QTEs.

>>380634580
Now you are understanding.

>>380634660
I played through KH2 once like 15 years ago, I am unable to answer your question.
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>>380634215
If you riposte an enemy in darksouls you can do a long stabbing animation, is that a qte as well?
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Still the best outfit.

Also holy shit they are using the Prime Music.
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>>380634791
>Samus Returns is filled with QTEs
It's not. You're wrong. Kill yourself.
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>>380628962
Damn those rockets feel like a punch from a woman. Is she using a nerf gun or something?
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>>380634791
Your point is wrong though
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>>380634791
>15 years ago
>KH2 released in 2005
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>>380634791
>press a button
>attacking animation takes more than 1 second to play out before you regain control of your character
Is that a QTE to you?
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>>380634796
>>380635097
Imagine, if you will, the riposte button lighting up informing you that it is time for the animation and killing blow.

Does this change your view?

>>380634889
I see you bowed out of the argument with simple namecalling. Thank you.

>>380635020
I did not know the release date off hand and did not feel like googling it. 12-13 years is still a large chunk of time to forget a mechanic. Thank you however for taking the time to correct me on this point because it was huge.
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>>380632740
Yeah, like grabs in fighting games are QTE
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QTE was the act of a game throwing a button input at you outside of your control and taking you out of the game rather forcefully. They were bad because some games would make them instant kills if you didn't do them right, and back when they were new, a lot of shittier games really did make them hard to see coming and kill the player off by no fault of their own skill at the actual gameplay.

This is a cinematic counter the player has to trigger themself, and even throughout the animation, you still have to press the proper buttons based on context while reading the situation (shoot to shoot, counter to counter) similarly to Punch Out gameplay. It may as well just be a camera angle change and not even a real cutscene.

I know it's customary for shitposters to not know what they're talking about, but you don't have to look worse than science team here.
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>>380635332
VAPOR
FOR
BRAINS
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>>380635267
Yes, but that is not what is happening in metroid so
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I really appreciate the return to the normal looking suits, especially after having to deal with that shit plastic-like OM suit, but it just seems a bit off. The lights on the soldiers as well as that new exposed metal part bugs me more than it should, and her helmet seems just a bit too wide, but that might just be the angle.
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>>380635332
DID SOMEONE SAY TUBES?
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How /v/ has changed over the past few days.

If Spiderman does QTEs, its all bad
But if Samus does QTEs, its like gods gift to mankind.
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>>380635507
>soldiers
Fuck me.
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>>380635534
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Metroidfags will never stop complaining in your lifetime.
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>>380635507
I like her in-game model but you are right, this specific render feels really awkward. Same goes with her new amiibo
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>>380628962
By harnessing the hopes and love of adoring fans then processing them into a dream-machine
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I'm excited to see the different completion art. With that new special meter, I wonder if we will see alternate endcards based on if you used the pulse scanner at all, etc.
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>>380634615
Nice art style but what the fuck is up with the scale of the suit compared to her. She's even in her heels.

No amount of space marine magic can stretch her limbs out in there and keep her coming out looking like that.
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>>380635598

Where are the QTEs? Counters aren't QTEs. It's basically a parry move.
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Weavel for Prime 4 when?
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>>380635853
Its from a European Development team so the completion art of Samus will have her in various different types of Burqas.
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>>380635689
I swear ACfag has something to do with this, especially now that we have more impressionable dumbass newfags.

Not even boogeymanning, either. He's already been outed in some of the early threads for this game, he couldn't resist using his usual terminology and comparing to Bayonetta.
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>>380628962
>cinematic fight

This is actually a turnoff to me.
I love how quick and smooth Samus moves in the game, but the bossfights are garbage.
Sure they were pretty mediocre even back then, but that's no excuse.
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>>380636331
>tubelerone
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>>380636498
It's typical Mercurysteam stuff. Mirror of Fate was filled with it
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>>380636498
So don't use the parry mechanic.
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>>380635363
>that glorious flowing mane
Best Samus far and away.
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AM2R > Samus Returns
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>>380636782
GAME
MAKER
STUDIO
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>>380636534
Got the one of the elevator?
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>>380635507
It's the long but very thin waist without any support. Compare it to japanese Super Metroid artwork.
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Did the suit and/or animations look extremely sexy?

Or is that just my dick talking?
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>>380628962
nintendo has lost all sense of art direction, this literally looks like some cookie cutter fisher price shit
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>>380637468
I thought shitposting was against the rules? Mods?
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>>380637468
The spics never made a good looking game, so that's to be expected.
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>>380637434
it's the hips and thighs
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>>380629138

> spout dick-breathed opinions without watching the stream

Eat shit fag, it looks great.
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>>380637779
>garter belt
Be still my dick.
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>>380637468
They are most likely using the same engine that MoF used. Mercurysteam is a big problem here. I have no idea why they went to them for this.
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>>380637779
Does Joey fuck her so hard that Samus loses her suit upgrades?
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>>380637468
> le fisher price meme

Hello Vitard, what was announced for your system this E3?
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>>380636498

Fuck off, 3 second ass whoopins are fine, as long as when he game starts again it controls tight
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>>380628962
>105 damage from a projectile
fuck off casuals
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>>380635598
I bet you thought glory kills in Doom 4 were QTEs and ruined the game too
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>>380636782
>Judging something without even trying it
It's like back in time when my classmates used to tell me that game x is bad because of how it looks.

Seriously, can't you just judge the game by playing the demo that's going to be released?

Fucking hell, there are so many games which I thought are going to suck but I still tried it out because of other people and then I noticed "hey, it's quite fun".

So instead of judging a book (or game in this case) by it's cover without even trying it out yourself, shut your stupid illiterate mouth and for fucks sake try it out.

When you tell me "yeah, I liked AM2R better" after playing Samus Returns for the 3DS then that's fine.

But until then, shut up and keep watching
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>>380638204
im playing mario kart on my 3ds, cuck
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>>380638453
>you can't judge gameplay footage
Maybe you don't have enough experience with games being a Redditor and all, but everyone else already got the gist of this. It's nothing new. Even if you gave it the benefit of doubt, it's Mercury Steam. They can't come up with anything.
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>>380628962
>shitty cinematic boss fight
You know, I had joked about Nintendo just taking AM2R and turning it into their own game. I wasn't serious. But that kind of looks like what they ended up doing.
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>>380638875

But the gameplay footage is good. Literally all you shitposters have is running around screaming "MERCURY STEAM!!" ad nauseam.
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>>380637434
No, the way she moves is very feminine.
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>>380635913
it's the same space time magic that compresses her body into a ball and lets her hand disappear in a seemingly hollow cannon tube
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>>380629138
Yeah bro, Yooka Laylee was developed by many Rare devs and that was a great game. Oh wait....
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>>380639110
That's because MERCURY STEAM HASN'T MADE A SINGLE GOOD GAME TO DATE AND THE FOOTAGE DOESN'T LOOK ANY DIFFERENT FROM THEIR OTHER MEDIOCRE PRODUCTS..
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>>380638453
How old were your class mates? Because it's probably the same age as the retards on that say that shit.
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>>380628962
That looked good until the "cinematics" started happening.
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>>380639323

> refuses to consider the actual gameplay
> confirms exactly I just said

K, fags, thanks for confirming you have fuckall argument.
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>>380639538
>y-you don't consider gameplay even though that's all you're talking about
You drones are truly insufferable. I'll just grab the amiibo and laugh about the disastrous sales.
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>>380637638
>spics
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>>380632601
That's a parry.
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>>380640370
my bad just found out they're spanish
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>>380635913
The suit is a robot controlled with her mind, her limbs don't actually have to execute the motions
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>>380639805

I'm sure you will be as vague as possible, but what's wrong with the gameplay?

Also

> buying amiibo, but shitting on the game
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>>380635689
I'm not complaining, I'm fucking stocked. Now if only the special edition was up for pre-order...
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>>380638194
The reverse.
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>>380628962
It's ok when nier automata does it
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>>380628962
>cinematic
>exact same thing happens in Dark Souls and nobody complains
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>>380631592
It was infected by the x parasite as well if I remember correctly.
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>>380641703
It was not. You said this last thread and it was total bullshit then.
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>>380633254
>B-but at least we got two metroids

Have some standards you fuck
Nintendo incorporated shit cinematic in an otherwise decent game
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>>380634608
this
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>>380641970
>shit cinematic
Fuck off
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>>380641703
>metroid
>infected by X-parasite

Look, I know Metroid games don't focus too much on story but the literal second thing established about those things is they can't infect metroids (first being that they infect things at all). It happened in the first cutscene. Which is unskippable. Motherfucker, you had to actively look AWAY from the screen to not know this.
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>>380641970
>am2r and castlevania niggers still THIS mad that LOS was successful and made a fuck ton of money.
Your raging butt hurt will never be less oishii.
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>>380641703
X parasite can't infect Metroid, they are its natural enemy. The only successful combination of the two life forms dna is Samus final suit since she was treated with Metroid dna and was then given extra components from the X parasite..
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>>380635913
The hands might not be actually her hands but robotic hands. Samus' actual hands might end at the wrist of the power suit. Also like >>380640621
said, there might be a mind interface to control a suit. The power suit is a mech pretty much.

Samus in power suit might be close to 7'. Wew lad.
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>>380641117
What are you even talking about? There's no 8 second long animations in Dark Souls.
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>>380628962
>cinematic 5fps
wwooow
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>>380634608
>>380642080
Isn't it established that the Zebes Metroids were exposed to gamma rays or something to clone them?
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>>380641703
That's not how it works
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>>380634856
dude pleas tell me I can get that statue somewhere.
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>>380642328
>LOS was successful and made a fuck ton of money
It was successful in terms of sales but was the shittiest game in the series. I love Castlevania and I simply hate what that game is. It's an insult to say the least, specially MoF and LoS2.
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>>380628962
I hate this cinematic epic takedown bullshit. That's not Metroid. I hate Sakamoto for still trying to shove this shit down everyone's face. I get that in the suit, Samus is strong, agile, and fast as fuck, but they should find other ways to show it instead of, "Look, Samus is swinging this dude around and slamming him into the ground like fucking Kratos! Isn't that awesome!?"

It just isn't Samus at all to me. Still think this game looks good but I could do without that shit.
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>>380642595
>It was successful in terms of sales but
HAHAHAHAHHA
Can you fucking hear yourself?
Seriously?
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>>380640739
First off, all the footage they're showing is very stationary. The whole crouch and start shooting thing sounds awful, Metroid is a game about moving around while shooting. The missiles pack no punch whatsoever by the way. Then you have the counter mechanic, where you press a button with a timing so forgiving even the chucklefucks at Treehouse can do it by accident and wait 7 seconds for a tactical takedown or whatever bullshit cutscene that takes away from gameplay. Finally, where's the platforming? Don't tell me they're not gonna introduce shinespark or speedboost when they did it for Zero Mission. This whole thing reeks of the spics not knowing the source material, just like Castlevania.

> buying amiibo, but shitting on the game
What about it? Samus has a good pose and suit unlike the Smash one. The Metroid looks good as well. Obviously I'm gonna wait for the final product to decide, but they're very attractive as is.
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>>380631592
Well, there was a Zeta in Fusion as well (suspended in fluid in the hidden lab) and it still had its Return of Samus design. They may well change the look of the Omega but I hope they don't because Fusion's design was fucking great..
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>>380639487
I mean it's been more than 7 years since I left that school. They were 13 at that time. So yeah, that was kinda the point.
The shitposters are some little fucking children


>>380639323
The gameplay footage does look good.
Heck, even the gameplay footage of Mirrors of Fate looked good. The thing that made Mirrors of Fate shit was the extremely small world and the motherfucking "no point in exploring in a castlevania game" shit.

This Game on the other Hand is based of Metroid 2. I don't know how old you are but you probably never played it. It was bad graphic wise and okay gameplay wise, but if it did something right, it was the exploration.

Now you have a company that delivered a good gameplay for Mirrors of Fate and yuo have an already existing game which has already the story and the location fleshed out. All you need to do is update the world (which is good you fucking idiot) and put a good gameplay into it.

Considering that the gameplay of Mirrors of Fate was good (because only the fucking small world sucked ass) this game has a high possiblity of being good

If the game is going to be good or bad, we will see once it is released. The footage looks good so far.

There you go you fucking autist who needs to be part of a fucking "le pssimistic v" meme.
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>tfw no omega metroid amiibo
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>>380636782
I really wish the Metroid fandom will let their AM2R boner die. It's a very impressive fan game but now that we're actually getting Metroid games again we don't have to treat it like the end-all, be-all of Metroid naymore.
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>>380634856
The Justin Bailey is prime 80's anime girl material and it's perfect. Hope it gets used again in another game.
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>>380639205

But it was
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>>380635689
>people will never stop complaining about Metroidfags in your lifetime
pottery
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>>380643224
>giant Metroid Queen amiibo
>it doesn't even have a base
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>>380643401
I could see that. Pink ZS with blue detailing, and her hair is dyed a lighter green.
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>>380635363
I'm still amazed at how mediocre this art looks. This is what happens when they outsource the art to non Japanese artists. I mean it's not BAD, but you can tell it's a western artist trying to emulate Japanese art.

t. Not even a weeaboo, something I noticed after all these years but could tell something was off about it on release.
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>>380643401
You and me both, my friend. Not him, though.

>>380643224
>>380643735
I would probably the hell out of both of those.
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>>380628962
>bloom
>cinematic QTE garbage
cancer
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>>380642963

Sounds like you are expecting the game to play like fucking Megaman X or some shit. I saw plenty of platforming.

> the missile packs no punch

Packs the same amount of punch it does in Super, which I am currently playing through, and it was the only weapon hurting some of the minibosses shown

> yeah but where da powers tho

I dunno fag, maybe they haven't showed everything yet?

Counters look fine by the way, just seems like a speedy way to get rid of some enemies, don't like it? Don't use it.
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>>380642963
>the missile pack no punch
>footage of a game that is yet to be released
debunked first of all
second
>the missile packs no punch
Even back then the missiles in 2D metroids rarely packed any punch. It looked good, yes, but the bosses were still fucking damage sponges. Did you ever try to kill Ridley with Missiles? You need a shitton. 100 at least.

>the whole crouch and start shooting thing sounds awful
You are correct it does sound awful, considering the gameplay I saw so far it doesn't look like it is awful though. If anything it looks amazing.

>Then you have a counter mechanic
Oh wow, the worst fucking thing ever.

>A counter mechanic which goes to a bullshit cutscene that takes away from gameplay
What the fuck are you talking about? It is part of the gameplay. It looks not only amazing but also feels like I'm the most feared bounty hunter in the universe simlpy by suplexing a fucking Zetta Metroid.

>Where's the platforming
Everywhere, they got the space jump already, what makes you think you won't get it for Samus Returns? God forbid they're not gonna show everything in a game still in development.

You're sounding like a fucking 15 year old who wants to be well informed about vidya and then judges games by one of the 5 companies that took part in the development instead of giving a game a fair chance.

Just get the fuck out you autist
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>>380644093
>ing the Queen Metroid

Didn't know you were into that sort of thing.
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>>380629138
yup comparing a 3d main console game developed with the 'help' of Konami to a 2d handheld one developed by Nintendo
never disappoint /v/
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>>380644289
*buy
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>>380628962
This looks fucking terrible.
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>>380628962
What really bothers me is that the health is on the bottom screen. That seems like it'd be really annoying while playing.
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>>380642595
>shittiest game in the series.

Um...Castlevania Judgment?
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>>380644626
I wonder, maybe you can change it in the options? Would be neat. I can see how it would be annoying tho if it stays at the touchscreen...
The only health indicator would probably be the warning noise when low on health
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>>380637103
So? Great games have been made with that engine. You faggots love to spew meme shit you don't understand.
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>>380642771
>I could do without that shit.
Well you're in luck because as far as we know it's completely optional.
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>>380641703
>>380631592
no that was a fedshit metroid. the one that's vulnerable to ice beams
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>>380628962
>cutscene attacks
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>>380628962
Why did the make the zeta metroid look more like an omega metroid? It doesn't make a very good transition from the gamma one
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>>380645143
Not a cutscene though. you still do the shooting during the attack. With either Missiles or just beam.
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>>380645458
Mashing A during a cutscene doesn't make it not a cutscene.
But even if you're about to argue that it does, it still doesn't look fun to me. Specifically the cutscene, maybe the rest of the fight would still be fun.
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>>380642328
>Loved am2r
>realy hyped for M:RoS
dont lump me with that queer.
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>>380628962
>Epic simply epic, Samus is so badass, yas!
I have so much fucking disdain for those intrusive, epic, cinematic that cut from the normal gameplay.
I can only imagine the biggest of faggots actually liking that pace destroying, slow the game down tone shift segments.
If you want to make a cool exciting fight make a cool exciting fight not because you added faggy cutscenes in the middle of a fight.
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>>380644176
>Counters look fine by the way, just seems like a speedy way to get rid of some enemies, don't like it? Don't use it.
See, the problem with that is that they're giving it too much importance. When it comes to bad mechanics and mediocre studios, they tend to design the game around it. They don't have the foresight of presenting a challenge and alternative playstyle by not betting everything on it. This is something I would expect Nintendo to step in and slap some sense into them, but they seem to have a very hands off approach judging by their latest partnerships.

>it's just a BETA!
>they'll patch it!
>The game is scheduled to launch in September 2017.

>It looked good, yes
It looked and sounded damn amazing, that's what. Very few games portrayed missiles properly back then. This one doesn't.

>If anything it looks amazing.
If you can't see the problem with stationary shooting on Metroid, you have no business talking about it.

>Oh wow, the worst fucking thing ever.
Yes.

>but also feels like I'm the most feared bounty hunter in the universe simlpy by suplexing a fucking Zetta Metroid.
By not pressing a single button. Are you a God of War fan? Probably, since Lord of Shadows was just that.

>what makes you think you won't get it for Samus Returns?
Mercury Steam's history of ineptitude handling others' IPs.

>God forbid they're not gonna show everything in a game still in development.
I'd hope they immediately show improvements to a remake of a rather forgotten and outdated entry. They're trying to sell me this game, right?

>You're sounding like a fucking 15 year old
You tell me, Personafag. What's your favorite cardboard cutout?

>by one of the 5 companies that took part in the development
The one company directly making the game, yes. This isn't the 00s, Nintendo isn't breathing down their neck. All their partnerships lately result in sloppy games precisely because of this free reign.
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I hate to play the "how do you know it's shit, you haven't played it yet" card, but I feel like the people complaining about the cinematic melee takedowns really need to play it first to see how it feels before complaining. It looks awkward in video, but who knows, it might feel really good depending on how it fits into the gameplay.
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>>380636498
It's optional. It's a special move that consumes meter. You don't need to use it.
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>>380645793

> all this sperging

Then just don't use the counter. You can still kill all these bosses by shooting weakpoints as normal.
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>>380646183
>Nintendo isn't breathing down their neck.
Bullshit. No way in hell they're letting Sakamoto and some small company run wild after Other M.

This'll be great, you cynical autistic fuck who doesn't want change.
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>>380634608
The baby in Super was experimented on by scientists of the Galactic Federation, if I remember correctly. That's why the larvae didn't undergo any metamorphosis but kept growing.
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>>380646292
It has no ties to gameplay for all we know. The animation looks off as well, so I really don't understand the "wow so badass xddd" people.
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>>380646606
Close. But only metroid in their natural habitat evolve. That;s why there's a Zeta metroid in Fusion. It evolved in the SR-388 habitat.
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>>380646614
It looks like a pure gameplay experience actually, because it's activated by precise timing of a melee strike. They're completely optional and hard to pull off, and it looks like when you do pull them off, you're still in control. Like I said, it seems like something we'll have to wait to play first.
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>>380646798
Meant Omega, btw
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>>380646183

> See, the problem with that is that they're giving it too much importance. When it comes to bad mechanics and mediocre studios, they tend to design the game around it. They don't have the foresight of presenting a challenge and alternative playstyle by not betting everything on it. This is something I would expect Nintendo to step in and slap some sense into them, but they seem to have a very hands off approach judging by their latest partnerships.

>it's just a BETA!
>they'll patch it!
>The game is scheduled to launch in September 2017.

> all this alarmist bullshit speculation

You are a genuine autist and would be impossible to please anyway.

Go jerk it to AM2R and stop shitting up the board.
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>>380634608
it is literally explained in Fusion, they can only evolve into their later forms in their natural eco system on SR388, otherwise they just stay in larva mode all the time

no idea why it became XBOX HUEG though
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>>380647094
Wasn't that because it didn't evolve, so all the energy just went into growth?
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>>380642381
>There's no 8 second long animations in Dark Souls.
>get hit by DA CHAMP
>get comboed for ten hours straight
>finishes it off with a Cinematic Donkey Kick that knocks me off the map
Best boss.
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>>380631612
>PRESS START
>WOW FUCK THESE QTEs
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>>380646798
I hate to use that game as a counter-example but there was a queen on the bottleship of M:OM. I don't remember if it was ever made clear if it evolved on the ship or was taken from its natural habitat and there wasn't a dedicated SR388 on the ship.
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>>380628962
I approve of this Samus she is very BADASS!
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>>380646557
>Bullshit. No way in hell they're letting Sakamoto and some small company run wild after Other M.
Remember how Nintendo went all "the consumer just doesn't understand the Wii U" to their shareholders? I'm sure that was the thought process behind Other M too. He got to command more Wario games after all.

>who doesn't want change.
I don't want random changes that go against the foundations of this franchise, no.

>>380646981
No shit it's speculation, we don't have the game. All we have is footage, the history of the studio and late Nintendo partnerships.

>>380646854
The gameplay ends with this "precise" melee strike Treehouse did by accident with their backs to an enemy. Like I said, Mercury is atrocious at action, I expect nothing from them.
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>>380646183
First of all congrats, it seems like you finally made some points!


>Everything is build around counters
Personally I think the idea behind that is because Metroid is known for speedrunning, and what is better to speedrun if not running head first into enemies, countering their attack and shooting them just to continue on?

But I highly doubt they'll completely build it around it. I think the Metroids are going to have some other attacks besides melee shit to piss you off.

>BETA
Nono, you got it wrong. It's in development. All the footage is subject to change. They probably won't change everything you see, but they'll tweak some mechanics.

>Missiles are portrayed poorly.
Point taken, I can see that too. Especially the Machine Gun Missiles lack the oomph you're complaining about.

>You have no business talking about it
This is not other M were you have to switch poorly at all. It looks smooth and fast.

>Yes
No, not if properly implemented and Metroid is built for speedrunning. I don't see your point there.

>Are you God of War fan?
Never played it. Lords of Shadow is good though, I don't see your point. It's challenging and fun at the same time.

>History of ineptitude
Fair enough, I still have hopes it won't suck since it looks good

>Show mew imrprovements to a remake
Jesus Christ did you ever play the original? Everything you see is a fucking improvement there. Fuck, buy the game and play it on virtual console and then try to say that again after looking at it

>Personafag
>Cardbaord cutout

I don't have one first of all
Second of all, you're making it sound like Persona is a bad game.

>Nintendo isn't breathing down their neck
Do you honestly think after Federation Force and Other M they're trying to sell us a bad main story line game?

I don't think so
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>>380647695
Well... I got nothing. I can remember something about the queen metroid being smuggled there in her queen form... But I'm not sure.

I'm gonna chalk it up to Sakamoto and Team ninja fucking up.
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>>380645113
All Metroids are vulnerable to the Ice Beam you fucking tard. The only exception are mutations, like Fission Metroids.
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>>380642590
I second this.
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>>380637779
New Samus and Joey storytime when?
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>>380634856
Thanks doc.
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>>380628905
Man, this E3 had a bunch of good shit,MH World,TWO METROID games, a new Metro game, but it confuses me that with a bunch of good games for literally every single console we still got a bunch of faggots screaming and moaning instead of being happy.

Instead of being happy we are getting two metroid games at all, we have a lot of people frothing at the mouth that we are indeed getting metroid games.

Instead of being happy we are getting even more MH games we have falseflaggers false flagging falseflaggers and now we can't actually talk about MH games at all.

I really wish there was an alternative to /v/ but there really isn't any
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>>380639132
Runs like a retard on high heels.
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>>380648634
I'm not saying the opposite. She is fat, end of the story.
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>>380644685
No one is gonna use that spinoff for shitposting. Like the PS2 Castlevania
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>>380648801
Damn, holy shit, wow, think about this:
Maybe they don't want to be thankful for shitty games?
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>>380628905
>>380628962
Not even using a animate .gif version for the gamboy
How can you compare?
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>>380648801
A shame, I know. Wish I could talk more with less negative people too.

What's the mechanic you enjoy the most so far in Return of Samus?
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>>380649036
Are you a time traveller? I didn't know the game was already out
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>>380649150
It's already looking bad judging by that webm and the developer
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God, I hope this game is good. The shitposting is going to be horrendous if it gets 6s or 7s from critics.
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>>380649150
Don't feed him, man.

The manchild won't ever change.

it's lost energy.
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>>380633534
>and just like have QTEs have timing
>woop woop fags
wRONG, this is CONTEXTUAL ACTIONS! nothign wrong with that.

QTE is a mini DDR input which result in an action you INDIRECTLY caused. you aren't really in control of the action.

Contextual Action often require timing, with the push of the button DIRECTLY causing the action. You are in control of the action.
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>>380628962
Why are developers still this fucking dense? We want to do this shit ourselves, pressing a button and watching a movie does nothing for nobody.
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Is /v/ actually defending having mini cutscenes in the middle of gameplay? What the fuck, this is even WORSE than QTEs because there's not even a gameplay aspect to it.
>>380649424
shut the fuck up, dissenting opinions are not bait, eat shit
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>>380637146
I love these
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>>380629138
Breath of the Wild was developed by the same people who made Skyward Sword.
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>>380642354
In Prime you can see Samus's hands with the X-ray visor and they go to the end of the suit.
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>>380637779
>>380648363
Anyone know where to download the whole Joey & Samus series? I want to back it up before metroid database eventually gets nuked.
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Are you going to buy it, /v/?
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>>380649954
this and she changes beam types by holding specific hand motions in her arm cannon
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>>380639205

It was.

The only complaints anyone had were either JonTron shills who can't get over their idol having consequences for his actions or retards who complained it was too much like a 90s collectathon (????????)
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>>380649881
Go cry in a corner whilst slitting your wrists when this game turns out fine.
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>>380650158
They're deleting the cinematic crap?
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>>380634215
>every attack in MH is a qte
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>>380650158
>dont say ANYTHING BAD ABOUT NINTENDO AAAAAAA EVEN IF THEY PUT CUTSCENES IN THE MIDDLE OF MINI BOSSES
stop
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>>380650123
Say that again to our faces.
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>>380650261
>>380650334
Samefag detected.
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>>380650212
They were actually smart enough to build a flaw in it (cold). But Space pirates had to fuck it all.
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I feel like we could make a bingo card for Samus Returns threads.

>"MercurySteam is shit"
>"QTEs"
>"should have been sprites"
>"should have been on the Switch"
>"3DS is a dead system"
>"240p 30fps"
>bringing up AM2R (free space)
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>>380650285
What are some examples of 10second cinematics playing after doing attacks in Monster Hunter?
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>>380645113
>being this retarded

all metroids by chozo standrads aka that will turn into a queen eventually are vulnerable to ice hell its established that one reason metroids were made is a reason to keep X parasites in check

metroids basically a natural pesticide...an extremely dangerous highly mutatable and non species specific one but still...

one of the sax ignore's samus once it knows an omega is alive
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>>380647584
We're talking about Dark Souls 1 right?
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>>380650481
>everyone who doesn't like a game is the same person
you are the reason why people hate nintendo fans
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>>380635913
In her original design she was supposed to be a 7 ft. tall Amazonian warrior because of her Chozo DNA. Then they had to sexify her because apparently not even a company who primarily sells to children is above pandering with sex appeal.
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can somebody explain the tubes meme please
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>>380650668
every hunting horn attack
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>>380650481
Y-Yes! That must be it!

First they want two scoops then they want double the posts!

Would not surprise me if we're being invaded by Russian bots!
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>>380651106
The joke is that space pirates are always building their structures and bases with tubes that are conveniently the exact size for Samus to fit in as a morph ball, which is a huge detriment to them that could be easily fixed.

All the comics are about just how stupid and illogical the space pirates are
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>>380650674
i haven't replayed Fusion for a long while. can someone re-educate me the difference between a natrual Metroid and a Metroid that was generated by the corrupt GF ringmasters?
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>>380628905

This is rape.
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>>380650653
Don't forget "Metroidfags can't stop complaining even though it's 95% falseflagging"
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>>380651315
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>>380651147
Those are a series of attacks. And even though the animation is long you're not making your character do 20 different actions from a single input.
You're argument is reaaaally really reaching since the same thing could be said about simly charging your beam by your logic.
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>>380651106
Many Metroid games have tube paths that Samus often use to go in in morphball and discover new area.

To the question as to why the Space Pirates install so much Tubes in their bases (that Samus often explores and use to infiltrate), a theory was suggested that Space Pirates rally like tubes. Like they like them really very much, to the point they will install new ones just at the suggestion of it.

And this is why this flaw exists.
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>>380651791
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>>380651621
They're both the same, but Metroids can only advance their life cycle in the environment of SR388. BSL in Fusion recreated that environment so they were able to grow there.
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>>380651820
yes by your logic charging up a beam would be a qte. I'm glad you've realized how retarded you are
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>>380649954
>>380650101
I know about this, but I assumed the suit either got upgraded or was different.
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>>380652092
That makes no sense, you're not reading my post.
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>>380650865
More. I lost my tubes folder
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>>380640759
Try looking at local GameStops. Managed to find 2 stores, one with preorders still available for the special edition and one with the amiibos. Good luck though, considering its been a couple days now.
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>>380651791
>>380651972
Funny thing is, the two scoop is something he never really complained about.
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>>380644626
This is what happens when you have a handheld with two screens.
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>>380628905
>>380628962
mite b cool, but I'll wait and see.

Other M had potential to be good too, but the final product botched literally everything...
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>>380646296
>It's optional
But it pisses me off that casuals will use it liberally
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>>380628962
Sigh, not even Nintendo is immune to cinematic ""gameplay."" This just turned the game from a Day 1 to a no-buy for me.
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>>380651004
>implying that her being a tall amazonian warrior woman isn't sexual as hell

Casual.
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>>380652547
Why do you care what other people do?
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>>380652547
Why do you care what other people choose to do in a single-player game?
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>>380646060
>its horrible death
not dead yet just not being developed further
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>>380648053
>Personally I think the idea behind that is because Metroid is known for speedrunning, and what is better to speedrun if not running head first into enemies, countering their attack and shooting them just to continue on?
Funny you say that, a speedrunner would be the first to speak out against taking away control and replacing it lengthy animations. This is westerner bait in my book, throw off newcomers with flashy action so they can pay attention to a platformer in this age.

>But I highly doubt they'll completely build it around it.
I would hope so, but that's usually how it goes.

>They probably won't change everything you see, but they'll tweak some mechanics.
They have three months to go.

>Never played it. Lords of Shadow is good though, I don't see your point. It's challenging and fun at the same time.
This is for a different thread, I have a hard time wrapping up this post already.

>No, not if properly implemented and Metroid is built for speedrunning. I don't see your point there.
See above. You can't just implement counters on everything because you really like it, it has to make sense within the gameplay. Preferably not last about 10 times more than the counter as well. Hell, I love counters and parries, which is why I get mad at poor attempts. I go in expecting a high mastery risk-reward situation with a quick, impacting, satisfying solution and instead I get a forgiving skip gameplay button that ends up taking longer than just manually attacking enemies. That's another fun fact in speedrunning by the way, most runs flat out ignore these mechanics because they're slower. And despite the memes, most speedrunners take no pleasure in skipping a game, they'd rather find new ways to play the games through tricky tech.

1/2
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>>380649916
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>>380634615
Art fucks up the height even Samus Returns gets this right.
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>>380652763
>>380652791
>I don't care about what faggots do with each other in their bedroom
not caring is apathetic and just like not caring that faggots fuck each other in the ass, not caring about how casuals play has damning repercussions for society
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>>380648053
>This is not other M were you have to switch poorly at all. It looks smooth and fast.
What purpose does it serve? If they were going for a walking tank aspect, it falls flat because the projectiles have no punch. It's also contradictory to Samus getting shredded by fauna. It doesn't seem like a take them out before they swarm you situation either.

>Jesus Christ did you ever play the original?
For a while, yes. I can't stand claustrophobic GB platformers.

>Everything you see is a fucking improvement there.
Visually, sure.

>Second of all, you're making it sound like Persona is a bad game.
Bad? No. Just nowhere near deserving of its praise. People get really carried away with its style. You know, teenagers.

>Do you honestly think after Federation Force and Other M they're trying to sell us a bad main story line game?
If this was done inhouse, no. A partnership though? For a platform on its way out, no less. Not holding my breath.

2/2
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>>380636782
I see a lot of youtube comments justifying AM2R cancellation to this and all i think is "wtf"
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>>380640621
That's halo you dipshit
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>>380652427
yeah i know, it was just about Alex Jones.
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Why do people keep responding to ACFag.
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>>380652547
>hating a game because of how other will play it
people like this are real.
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>>380651004
>7 ft. tall
she was just 6.3ft
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>>380653089
But he's right
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>>380653070
He was remaking a game that wasn't his. I'm glad it was cancelled. How would you feel if someone took your property and started changing it without your permission?
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>>380634791
>>380634215

>there are people this retarded in the world
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>>380653356
>this is your brain on Nintendo
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>>380652951
You only get the animations for certain types of enemies like Zeta Metroids, not for normal enemies. Hence, I can see speedrunners not complaining about it.

>>380653069
>What purpose does it serve that a human being can fire in more than 8 directions
I wonder what purpose it could serve...

>Visually, sure
Jeez, it was horrible to play for the most part. The timing for the space jump was even more shit than in other 2D Metroids
You have absolutely no idea where you are most of the time
There is no map at all
You can find more Life tanks than you can pick up
You loose your beams when you find another one

It's a mess
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>>380653338
>game 1 is a hardcore underground 8/10 cult classic
>normies hate it, think it is too hard
>game 2 is flawed, has casualized aspects
>sells better, is featured highly in pop culture
>game 3 is a literal piece of shit full of cinematic push X to win interracial romance
>GOTY
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>>380653089
play Zero Mission, but he's only wrong on the whole robot part

think Kamen Rider but without the rider gashat stuff
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>>380635363
>There will never be a Metroid game post fusion
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>>380653356
>cancelled
Lmfao
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>>380653567
can you go 1 second without daydreaming about white women getting blacked?
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>>380653057
>and just like not caring that faggots fuck each other in the ass, not caring about how casuals play has damning repercussions for society
At this point,, I don't know if you are serious or just baiting.

I mean, fuck, It's like you were one of those fictional people kotaku decirbe in their "news" who are hardcore fictional people who want game to be hard because they secretly hate gays and who would have accidentally escaped to reality.
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>>380653657
That's how it's spelled in Europe idiot.
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>>380628962
>nintenbros will defend this
jeez i realize metroidfags have gotten pretty thirsty at this point but have some dignity for god's sake.
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>>380644080
it looks like usual pixiv art to me.

t. fag who swarms in metroid tags at japanese twitter, pawoo, and pixiv
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>>380650089
physically, yes
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>>380653916
So it looks like an amateur artist?
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>>380653057
and what are these repercussions? men have been fucking each other in the ass from before civilization
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>>380651004
I dig that Sakamoto was wearing the giantess design during the Samus Returns treehouse reveal
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>>380653567
That's not how it work, bru. Please, you are making Polygon article look credible. No one should ever do that, for the sake of our mental health.
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I came here for news but this place is still cesspool like always. Idiots having arguments on the internet as if any of it matters.
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>>380654045
I wonder if those T-shirt are for sale somewhere.
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>>380653638
There was one in development at some point, they had the plot written up and everything. I definitely think they'll make a post-Fusion game one day.
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>>380654254
post proof
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>>380654040
Yes, but there wasn't an identity based around it until relatively recently in human history. There were no gay pride parades, no special magazines catering to gay people and nobody losing their job over refusing to cater to gay wedding cakes

The same thing happened to casual gamers. Instead of being people bad at video games, they became a marketable audience. The casual gamer became an identity, the dudebro who has a job, works 9 to 5, then comes home to play Halo and Call of Duty. Gaming magazines catered to the lowest common denominator to get normie money. And now developers and studios can and will lose their jobs/shut down if they do not devote a good majority of their time and money on products that cater to casuals

Homosexuals and casuals literally ruined the world
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>>380628962
AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>380654254
Probably gouging success with Prime 4 and Samus Returns.

I do fucking hope they'll sell well.
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>>380632737
I think the way it works is you actually decide when and what to shoot during the animation

This sounds like something that could be cool if well thought out. Like you grab a boss and use the graple beam to rip something out of him. Or charge a shot before grabbing for big damage. Or ice beam to cripple it.
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I got like halfway through hacking my 3DS and then just stopped. I really need to finish that so that when this game comes out I can pirate the game to avoid needing to update the software version of the 3DS, and then buy a physical copy of the game as well to show my support for Metroid
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>>380628962
>people still think this isn't a QTE just because they hid the button prompts

Yeah I'm sure there's a 30 second cutscene of you kicking it's ass all by itself, and if that's true that's even worse.
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>>380654035
>implying this is amateur
dude who did MM Zero artwork btw
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>>380632740
>Upper cut in mortal combat
>He QTEs me and upper cuts me instead

Every fucking time
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Does every 3DS developer have to push 3D graphics or view to get approved? I want to go back to atari.
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>>380654431
ur new

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metroid_Dread
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>>380633451
I hope we hear a lot of updated M2 music
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>>380654431
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metroid_Dread
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>>380654763
Of course not. None of the Pokemon games use 3d
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>>380652838
It's not only just stopped development, it's been blacklisted by like all tournies so you can only play it casually now. And that blacklisting also pretty much doomed every other Smash mod from getting popular because nobody who wants to be on Nintendo's good side will ever touch.
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>>380654434
>Yes, but there wasn't an identity based around it until relatively recently in human history. There
There has been plenty of idnetity baround butt-tfucking. Fuck, it was a fucking culture in ancient Greece.
>and nobody losing their job over refusing to cater to gay wedding cakes
The guy self-own his business, he didn't lose his job.

>The same thing happened to casual gamers. Instead of being people bad at video games, they became a marketable audience.
Unrelated. Also, easy mode have almsot always exited in videogame. You are making up 100% bullshit for the sake of your own self-victimasation.

>Homosexuals and casuals literally ruined the world
Or, you know, you can play on Hard mode.
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>>380654790
I know what Metroid Dread is. It was never said that it was a post-Fusion game and if Prime 3 is anything to go by it very likely wasn't.
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>>380654854
All of the 3DS Pokemon games incorporate 3D in some degree
XYORAS use it in single battles and several over the shoulder cave sections.
SM uses it in the Pokefinder.
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>>380654916
>blacklisted by like all tournies
nigger? it was just at 2 majors. stop shitting out your ass.
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>>380654919
No

There is a difference between fucking a man in the ass (something you do) and being an unironic faggot who can distinguish between 7 shades of blue (something you are)

There is a difference between being bad at video games and being a casual gamer
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>>380648801
I feel like you know my pain right now better than anyone else on this board. I would kill to have a good thread about MonHun or Metroid right now.
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wrong post

>>380654431
just incase you try to start shit with ">Wikipedia"
http://www.ign.com/articles/2007/08/27/metroid-dread-nearing-completion
http://www.gamestm.co.uk/features/yoshio-sakamoto-discusses-metroid-64-metroid-dread-and-the-unwritten-future-of-the-warioware-series/3/
http://www.ign.com/articles/2010/03/13/gdc-10-sakamoto-on-metroid-dread-please-be-patient
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2007/09/26/retro-studios-answers-the-dreaded-metroid-dread-question-and-other-prime-exclusives/
http://www.ign.com/articles/2010/05/03/nintendo-voice-chat-podcast-episode-75
https://web.archive.org/web/20140101054826/http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/12/metroid-dread-concept-is-something-sakamoto-cant-say-never-exi/
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>>380655283
I seriously hope you're not implying that IGN, Gamespot, fucking MTV, or joystiq are reliable news sources. Metroid Dread was a myth.
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>>380655235
And none of that impact society or videogames.
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>>380654916
Why would you want to be on Nintendo's good side to begin with? They treat you all like shit. They don't want you. They don't sponsor you. What is this battered housewife shit?
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>>380647695
Wasn't Sector 0, the place that Adam blew up alongside himself, the SR-388 habitat? It's where the metroids were kept.
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>>380654919
>play on Hard mode
the stupidest cop-out excuse ever. majority of games just triple enemy HP and call it done. That's not hard, that's tedium that stupid people think is hard.
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Reminder, /v/, if you consider yourself a Metroid fan and don't buy Samus Returns, you have absolutely no fucking right to complain if the series dies again. The blood will be on your hands.
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>>380637468
It's literally just a brighter prime so you can play it in ambient sunlight because its a fucking handheld

Kill yourself

Other M was losing all sense of art direction. Zero mission looked bad at times too.
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>>380655475
>They don't sponsor you.
I thought they did sponsor a couple official tourneys, and that was the point when tournies started dropping PM like a rock.
Twitch banned PM wholesale because they were afraid Nintendo was going to take legal action against them.
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>>380655432
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>>380637103
not true
self made engine
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>>380649025
There were 2 PS2 castlevania games, with at least 1 of them being canon anon...
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>>380655458
Your taxes fund degeneracy and the culture war (in Canada the government will take away your children if you do not allow them to choose their own gender)
Your favorite game studios were cannibalized by hypercapitalistic publishers to cater to casuals (Look at all the devs bought out and abused by EA)
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>>380654854
This is not 2D graphics
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>>380628962
>11 second optional midbattle interruption means the game is an irredeemable piece of shit
I hate metroid fans
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>>380655626
Hard this.
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>>380655596
>the stupidest cop-out excuse ever.
It's not a copt-out. It's a valid solution to your issue.
>majority of games just triple enemy HP and call it done. That's not hard, that's tedium that stupid people think is hard.
With no casual, its how the game was going to be anyway.
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>>380655828
The only people saying that are the falseflaggers and you thinking they are serious
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>>380655707
Keep believing what the media wants you to believe bud. Unless Nintendo says it themselves, it never existed.
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>>380628962
that looks sick
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>>380655626
>>380655867
>"you fags didn't buy Other M, so Metroid is le dead XDD"
>"if you don't buy FF, Metroid is le dead XDD"
regardless, i'm still buying Samus Returns. Had enough of this fanbase generated bullshit
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>>380632740
>hurrdurr I press a button and thing happen in vidoegaem, must be a QTE

By your logic every action in every videogame is a QTE, retard.
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>>380655626
Why would I want to support a cinematic Metroid """game"""? I want gameplay like in the old Metroids, not a movie like Samus Returns.
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>>380656009
Metroid DID die after other M.

10 year hiatus more than counts as dead
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>>380656106
>I want gameplay like in the old Metroids
Don't use the counter then
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>>380655947
I've been in the celebration threads too long, I forgot what the falseflagging shit looked like outside of consolewarring retardedness.
Idk man I'm just pleased at having another Metroid game.
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>>380655951
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>>380656167
7* year before someone corrects me.

Ny point still stands
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>>380656009
Other M was released 3 years after Prime 3, which was solid
Federation Force was a spin-off
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>>380655951
Hun, it literally was in Metroid Prime

>>380656106
>oh no, a gameplay mechanic I don't have to use and can still beat the game without the cinematic aspect
>no way this is a game
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>>380655752
>(in Canada the government will take away your children if you do not allow them to choose their own gender)
Source?
>Your favorite game studios were cannibalized by hypercapitalistic publishers to cater to casuals (Look at all the devs bought out and abused by EA)
And yet, hard game still comes out. Surprise surprise. Maybe not having every company dedicated to your special tastes isn't such a bad thing incidentely.

Contextual action is not casual if the timing required is tight. Sometimes, people just enjoy cool moments.
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>>380653057
>I care about what little kids do in single player video games alone in their bedroom
You think about little boys a lot, huh?
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>>380656106
Dude it lasts a few seconds, is optional, and is only when battling some bosses.
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>>380656106
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>>380637468
Fisher Price really stepping up their game
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>>380656106
>Why would I want to support a cinematic Metroid """game"""? I want gameplay like in the old Metroids, not a movie
Super Metroid also had cinematic moment.

Fuck. Original Metroid was made with the intent to reproduce the cinematic experience of Ridley Scott's Alien.
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>>380656106
You're not ACfag and you're stupid for thinking you could fill those autistic shoes with that little effort.
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>>380656167
>>380656297
>"but it's counts to me!"
right, meanwhile the sales manager actually came up to Nintendo to cancel the Fire Emblem seres if Awakening doesn't sell above 250k. (which did afterwards)

while Tanabe told fans a proper Prime game is still on its way, he spoke in another interview how Zip-Lash might be the last Chibi-Robo game if it doesn't sell for once.

nothing was said about Metroid, a series that sold constant millions on new main titles and good spinoffs, despite how much of a failure FF and Other M was.
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I've seen so much shitposting on /v/ that I honestly can't tell what the general consensus of Samus Returns is. Do people like it?

Maybe I could try looking outside of /v/, too.
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>>380657001
funny ACfag did come in saying he'll give Samus Returns a pass as long the story focus fucks off and the gameplay is decent
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>>380628962
I don't remember the last 2D game that had those kind of combat cutscenes/QTE. been playing metroidvanias recently and not one of them had this kind of shit. Are the devs on drugs or what?
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>>380656297
Bru, Fan of Super metroid had to wait 8 years before they got Prime/fusion.

Any real fan of Metroid know they have to be patient to wait for their next game.

It didn't die. It was on hiatus.
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>>380657171
Falseflagger will shut up once it comes out.
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>>380657417
How dare they do something new for a new entry in the series?
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>>380656297
>>380656167
by your logic, Metroid died after Super Metroid.
do you know what a hiatus? try being a Berserk and HxH fan before 2016 and see how it's like.
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>>380657532
>new
you mean copying bad trends of some 3D games?

I'm not even one of those people who are starved for Metroid since games on the same genre recently have been pretty good, just pointing out this doesn't look good at all.
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>>380657171
It's hard to tell. Though from what I can gather, there are three general responses to it.
1. Happy and incredulous that 2 Metroid games are coming. Buying it and celebrating on multiple sites, also seeming to be the majority as Metroid SR has passed all other upcoming 3DS titles in preorders, including the new Pokemon.
2. Angry it's not on Switch.
3. Still angry about AM2R and ignoring the creator's wishes and the state of the game itself.
And that's what I've seen outside of /v/.
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>>380654916
Why was it blacklisted? Google brings up nothing apart from development being stopped
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Sakamoto's reasons for remaking Metroid II concern me. He said he chose Metroid II because he wanted to flesh out Samus meeting THE BABY and also implied that he resented the fact that he didn't make Metroid II and wanted to put his own spin on it.

I'm sensing some Other M vibes here.
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>>380657171
You should try looking outside of /v/

It seems most people like it besides the "le epic /v/ pessimistic vibe" like in that >>380656610 post shown.
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>>380657648
Metroid DID die after super. Then was brought back. Just because we are going to EVENTUALLY get another f zero doesn't mean it isn't a currently dead franchise
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>>380657701
why are people angry about AM2R? Finished it recently and it was pretty good
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>>380628962
I don't really care about combat in Metroid anyway. Metroid Prime 1 was great but those bosses were nothing to write home about. You literally just spam X for combat in Ori and the Blind Forest and it's still a good game. It's hard to fuck up the format unless it's a literal raping like Other M.
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>>380657417
So, they added stuf to the gamplay. Northing wrong with that.

Also, those aren't QTE.
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>>380657791
Sounds concerning but honestly based on what we have seen it's going to be fine. He also said that the story in the game is going to take a huge back seat and only be told through lore like in Zero Mission
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>>380657859
>Metroid DID die after super.
Berserk died before Guts got off the boat. Do you realize how fucking retard you type right now?
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>>380657919
watching cutscenes during combat or boss fight is adding a pile of shit to your game, I mean sure it's adding something but doesn't mean it's a good thing
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>>380657860
People can't let things go and for once, /v/'s anger about it is very similar to normalfags on social media and bland networking sites, so see any thread where they were complaining about the DMCA still recently.
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>>380657171
i'd say it's overall positive, with one or two people wsaying how tit's bad, being replied by otheer how it look good and then the thread turns into an argument of those few people and thsoe speaking against him while no discussion happens.

But overall, positive.
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>>380628962
Very cinematic
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>>380655518
Oh, yeah. That might be it, thanks for correcting me.
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>>380658062
>watching cutscenes during combat or boss fight is adding a pile of shit to your game
Except those aren't cutscenes. they are contextual action.
>Do you know what Occam's razor is?
It doesn't mean it's a bad thing either. Involving mechanic that rely on good reflex and timing for having cool moments during the fight is nice.
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>>380657125
That link at the bottom doesn't work for me.
>>380657740
From what I understand after development stopped some tournies got a lot more lenient on having PM as a side thing, but Nintendo started putting its fingers in the """eSports""" pie and tourney organizers quickly gave PM the boot trying to warm up to them.
Of course, I don't have that much sympathy over that in hindsight after the PMDT did the exact same goddamn thing and convinced organizers that allowed PM to ban any modified versions of PM besides 3.6f, ESPECIALLY anything that tried to finish the Forbidden Three. PMDT also banned all discussion of the Forbidden Three from any and every forum they have control over like their leddit page and Smashboards.
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>>380658361
"cool" is subjective, QTEs are stale as fuck now, in the context of that footage they just break the pace of a boss fight
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>>380658393
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/earnings/yearindex.html

note: only million seller title will appear on their fiscal year earning stuff.
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>>380658581
>QTEs are stale as fuck now
Good thing it isn't QTE, then.
> in the context of that footage they just break the pace of a boss fight
Uh, no. in the context of the footage, it was perfectly in sync with the pace of the boss fight.
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>>380652074
>Metroids can only advance their life cycle in the environment of SR388.

Or when exposed to radioactive mutagenic compounds.
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>>380652074
Their *****NATURAL life cycle. We see in Prime that they mature totally differently just being on Talon
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>>380628962

>1 hit did over 100 energy damage

This is doing the same shit Fusion did isn't it? They can't make bosses with interesting attack patterns where you're constantly being pelted so they just make it so that bosses do stupid amounts of damage and you die in under 10 hits.
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>>380658865
That's not part of the natural life cycle, that's a mutation.
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/v/ is going to be a fucking war zone if Samus Returns gets a lower metascore than Other M.
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>>380657419
The difference is Super Metroid was fucking amazing and Other:M was just a travesty it almost killed the franchise.
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>>380659141
>They can't make bosses with interesting attack patterns where you're constantly being pelted

Bullet hell is interesting?

Also being damaged when you get hit is called a game faggot. Fusion had the best boss fights in metroid. Kill yourself.
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>tfw a fangame made for free looks better than the official remake
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>>380659534
Except no one here was talking about Other M.
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>>380654937
Not him but one IGN guys visited Nintendo and saw the game's script he stated that the story took place after Fusion.
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>>380628962
I'm glad that after these games are done, Metroid will go back to being dead and I'll never have to see you whiny autists again. Seriously, don't go back to questioning why you never get Metroid games, okay?
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>>380659680
I had sworn I would never buy an amiibo.

I am starting to get weak. Help me out. I don't even care about the interactive stuff...

Will it be as cheap as usual amiibos? DAMNN IT! I shouldn't even ask...
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>>380655405
I'm glad Sakamoto wants to work on that project again on the Switch.
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>>380659481
I hate metacritic so goddamn much, and it's almost never a good gauge of a game's quality or how good it is for the intended audience.
All it does is create shitposting on /v/ and smug retards on other sites that can't form their own opinions and tout reviews as an objective measure of quality instead of providing proper reasoning and analysis.
It also ignores a huge amount of reviews that rate with non-10 pt or non number scales.
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why the fuck are they wanting MercurySteam to develop this?
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>>380660132
But the fan game looks and plays worse. 2.5D > pixely old garbage any day.
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>>380637103
>>380638453
>>380643397
>LITERALLY the best 2D Metroid with the strongest enemy design in the series
>haha fucking gamemaker fanwank shit, does it have the Nintendo Seal of Quality (eg a parry button that favors basic timing over quick repositioning and spacial awareness, shitty muddy graphics) tho??
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>>380660423
>>380659680
I'll definitely get one.
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>>380657791
I'm not worried, he doesn't have a massive AAA production comping known for making anime scripts to make the storyboards and write the script for him this time. Sakamoto's stories only work with 2D games.
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>>380636782

Literally the same kind of dumb ass who doesn't shut up about melee and project M. Stop talking
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>>380660423
Just buy it.
It's not like there's any other cheap Metroid figures that are squishy and actually have a modicum of usability.
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>>380659680
I worry about the quality of that material, I'd rather have a solid Metroid.
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>>380660509
Super is still better.
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>>380660509
>in the series

It's not in the series though, it's someone's fan project made with stolen assets. God damn I never see anybody fellate Mario romhacks like this.
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>>380651621
The GF metroids allegedly are immune to ice meaning they're unkillable.
Except for blowing them up apparently.
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>>380660829
melting core.
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>>380638875

>An intellectual gamer like myself with my opinions

>Using the reddit joke
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>>380660803
>God damn I never see anybody fellate Mario romhacks like this.
but muh slopes
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>>380660509
Sorry to burst your bubbles, but your little fan game ain't canon but Samus Returns is.
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>>380660829
Other M is not worth referencing.
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>>380660458
Apparently nintendo has a strategy of buying studios that are cheap because they suck. They throw out the old management and run it themselves. Then they insource whatever directors, designers, composers, etc that they need depending on the game. Basically mercury steam is cheap labor that does most of the work but makes little of the important decisions.

But sometimes those people are actually really good, like retro studios. But their bosses were shitty people who only cared about their comfortable job instead of actually achieving something.
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>>380645575
>pressing buttons while things are moving on the screen doesn't make it not a cutscene
Anon... By that logic everything is a cutscene go back to your still image dungeon crawlers.
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>>380659074
The Aether metroids were kind of different, too, not to mention the phazon addled varieties.
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>>380660509
>Strongest
>literal sprites ripped from ZM&Fusion if not inspired by them

Come on. Strong enemy design? Did you play fusion at all?
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>>380628962
It baffles me people still don't realise parries are completely optional
You have every right to complain about them (I don't like them as well) but it's not a reason to shit on the entire game
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>>380642794
The first LoS sold very well for a Castlevania game. The other two flopped hard but that's because we already knew what to expect from the first.

I hate LoS, probably more than you do, but I can't deny that fucking normies ate the shit out of that first game. Glad most people learned the lesson...
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>>380642963
>The whole crouch and start shooting thing sounds awful

This just in: Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, and Metroid Zero Mission are the shittiest most horrible games ever because you could crouch and shoot in them.
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>>380644685
Judgement had shit designs but was mainly a spinoff and a completely different game. At least it still sounded like Castlevania and had many kickass tracks.
LoS didn't even have that.and was closer to a GoW game than an actual Castlevania.
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>>380661130

At least it's a game, instead of a cinematic experience that runs at a silky smooth 30 FPS.
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>>380644685
Judgment was awesome, choke on a Geemer.
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>>380628962
>scripted takedown bullshit in a Metroid game
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>>380661679
Don't burn yourself out too soon, ACfag, you've got seven+ years of this to do to match your MOM insanity and you need to keep some fuel in reserve for shitting all over Zelda.
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>>380659141
I can beat nightmare without getting hit and you are a little bitch.
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>>380661486
Watching the footage I'm not so sure

The enemies have REALLY fast dash attacks. I'm not sure if you could dodge it by jumping away.

The standard parry itself is fine though. There's no cutscene.

That cutscene in OP is if you use the special that has a fuel meter.

But what no one knows is is this any fun? Metroid is basically a one button game. I wanted to use missiles as something more than boss ammo, and use the gapple beam for combat. But we already had a melee attack by jumping with the charge beam. I hope it doesnt feel like a fighting game instead of a shooter.
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>>380661954

>fag

Whoa there /pol/. who said you could leave your containment board?
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I really like how Sakamoto changed the game so that you wouldn't start off with the Morph Ball or Bombs and you have to find them like the other Metroid games. Also Could the post credit of Samus Returns explain how Samus no longer had any of her abilities after Metroid 2?
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I've never cared for Metroid in my life
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>>380662039
Not him but you can just jump over the enemies and fire back.
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>>380662168
Grow thicker skin, fag.
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>>380662314
we understand
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>>380628962
Aw sweet, Metroid QTE.
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>>380661679
>At least it's a game, instead of a cinematic experience
AM2R feel like a good cinematic experience.
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>>380662459
I pity FE fans. They love the most bland, boring, unimaginative shonen shit. I don't hold anything against them, most of them are just too young to know better.
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>>380661679
>that runs at a silky smooth 30 FPS.
Source?
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>>380662873

The stream was a constant 30 FPS. Unless the game runs differently, we'll just have to see. But after Zelda, I wouldn't put it past them.

>i-it was an artistic choice
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>>380661679
But isn't your fan game a cinematic experience ACfag?
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>>380632737
>I'd prefer

Don't buy it, fukkboi.
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>>380642963
They pulled the fusion/zero designer to do the levels. So if its absent it's not mercury steam's fault.

Looking at this it looks like we either get speed booster or screw attack.
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>>380662769
>>380663065

>a game with exactly 1 cutscene, which is skippable
>cinematic experience

Is the game perfect? no, but I forgive Dr. M for doing it for free. He didn't charge me 60 bucks for it.
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>>380663018
>The stream was a constant 30 FPS.
That's not indicative ogf anything.

Link Between World has shwon 3D work better at 60fps anyway.

>>i-it was an artistic choice
If it is at 30fps and Nintnedo make any comments on it, they will outright said it's about the console limitations.
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>>380663194
>>a game with exactly 1 cutscene,
There were plenty of moment when I felt like Iw as playing in a movie.

cinematic experience can be a good thing, you know?
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>>380662168
>>>/t/umblr
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>>380663335

>There were plenty of moment when I felt like Iw as playing in a movie.
...such as?
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>>380663194
You can skip cutscenes in Samus Returns.
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>>380663163
The game's not finished yet, the Speed Booster may not be in this build.
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>>380663786
When the Chozo robot break out of its shell.
When the wall are about to crush me
When the first Beta Metroid appear.
Basically the introduction of each boss.
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>>380663163
Continued from this post>>380664798, remember this is a different Chozo planet not Zebes, not all planets will have the same upgrades, remember Tallon IV and Elysia.
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