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what did he mean by this?

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what did he mean by this?
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>>380610683
1984 is not a fucking instruction manual you trogs.
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Yesterday's E3 interviews on GB were pretty fun. Even the Tranny.
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>>380612114
I want to play that Hidden Agenda game
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>>380610683
I accept that it's a free market and people can make shit like Gone Home if they want to. Can't they let people with different political views than them make their own games as well?
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>>380610346
I kinda feel sorry about the last night developper, hope his game doesn't fail or even get canceled because of all of this shit.
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>>380612332
They are.
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>>380612332
You speak as if they're trying to stop the game from getting released. They're just doing the same "Don't buy this shit from this asshole because of his political views" the same way faggots over here did to Gone Home
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>>380612462
Then why were they pestering Microsoft and Raw Fury trying to get them to drop the game's creator?
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>>380612571
They appealed directly to the publisher of the game trying to get the guy fired.
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>>380612382
I don't. He submitted to obese purple hair bullies.
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>>380612709
I hope they don't succeed
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>>380612382
Yeah my leftie friends seem pretty ready to drop him from the get go, I tried arguing with them but they seem to think that he made the game with the intention of making feminists and a society where people don't have to work look like bad ideas, and despite it being a good narrative for a video game (the world where people don't need to work, not the feminism bit I've not seen any signs of that in the game) they seem to say no matter what it reflects his beliefs and they're just being really bias and saying that makes a shit story.
Meanwhile the opposite side and also condemning him, cause he apollogised and because he's an indie dev, which they seem to inherently hate on principle these days.

Feel bad for the guy, hope all this political agenda pushing doesn't ruin him being caught in the middle of it all.
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>>380612571
>"Don't buy this shit from this asshole because of his political views"
that's not what they're saying

they're saying you should abuse your powers to ensure these people in the industry are not allowed to succeed. They're promoting McCarthyism, CCA and the Hollywood blacklist style tactics.
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>>380610683

what OS or device did you capture this screenshot from? the text looks so clear on my 4k screen, even more than windows fonts itself.

is this MacOS?
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He did right in apologizing and dissociating himself from the GamerGate meme.
He also did right in not bowing down to the feminist overlords by donating to a feminist charity, like they told him to do if he wants forgiveness.
Neofaggots hate him, /pol/tards hate him, normal reasonable people are with him or don't care one way or another
Good for him, hope his game is and does good
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>>380612571
but Gone Home is not vidya
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>>380612904
>Meanwhile the opposite side and also condemning him,
I haven't seen that at all, I think you're listening and believing your lefyfriends too much.

It's pretty much a bold-faced lie, I would know.
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>>380613110
I saw a thread of people being really pissed that he changed some stuff and that he apologised on stage at e3, but if that's not the case then that's good news.
Game looks dope imo
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>>380613278
He sort of did, I mean /pol/ would be mad but the hashtagers are not. They feel bad for him. They understand he's doing the best he can, his apology was honestly pretty weak. He said the tweets don't represent him, and considering in retrospect a lot of the tweets going around we're _flat out fake_ so who knows what that is supposed to mean.

He never said the words feminism, which is what they demand of him.
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>>380612904
I only see people who called out exactly everything that happened after he caved in to a dozen gaffers on twitter.
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>>380613110
>>380613278
>random people on the internet tell me x is against thing
>random people on the internet tell me x isn't against thing
>I'll just listen to these random people with no proof whatsoever
>I'll just change my thoughts on it to whatever the most recent person told me to think

this is why I need to leave this website.
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>>380613440
I really am glad that both /pol/tards and Neofaggots are against him. Makes this already good looking game even more enticing for me to support.
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>>380612979
This. Though I hope he doesn't compromise the vision of his game. I really do think it's an interesting setting and theme.
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>>380612114
>Even the Tranny.
wat?
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>>380611936
What are you talking about? We were always at war with Eurasia
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>>380610346
>>380610683
It's kind of creepy how fucking hard these guys get at the thought of ruining somebody's career.
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>>380613440
>Lime

Holy shit how have they not banned this gigantic turbofaggot yet
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>>380612979
>GamerGate meme

GamerGate wasn't a meme and there was nothing wrong with it.
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>>380613761
I kind of hope they don't, his honest opinions makes some of the best anti-SJW propaganda material. Maybe he's a troll and no one realizes it, it's insane.

Reminder that Lime is literally a white dude.
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>>380613871
Beneath its veil of lies and deceit, it was merely a movement to bitch about SJWs and try to run them out of the industry.
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>>380613871

You can't have that opinion on nu-/v/.
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>>380610683
I LITERALLY dont understand any of that.
It just abunch of English words put together, like lorem ipsum.
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>>380612979
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>>380613761
Because all the staff think alike.
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>>380613980
Yes, you can.
>Waah stop arguing with me
Stop being a baby. No one gets banned for supporting GamerGate.
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>>380613562
Where did I say I changed my mind? I said it was good news, not that it completely repainted my opinions.
I'm just being civil dawg, I take everything with a grain of salt, the only thing confirmed for sure is that lefties are vindictive, dude's trying his best but unless he licks their boots it's not good enough.
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>>380613968

Nah, it was to get back at Zoe Quinn for ruining people's lives and not giving half a shit about it.
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>>380613980
#gamergate was nu-/v/. now it's back to normal.
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>>380613968
>run the out of the industry
>not prevent the current state of the industry
No one ever tried to shut down twine.
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>>380614060
Yes, normal and reasonable people
Your strawman with the cuck and the mask does not apply since said cuck hates this dude and wants Last Night to fail because he dared speak against feminism once.
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>>380614102

You mean neo-/v/, nu-/v/ was everything after moot left.
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>>380613440
If you read his tweets they are totally reasonable too. He was just standing up for the elements of GG that were about journalistic integrity in the industry and condemned journalists that labelled everyone who plays videogames to be white neckbeard sexist harassers because of the actions of a few. The same defence people make when people attack all muslims for the actions of terrorists.
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>>380614089
Well, yeah. Calling Zoe Quinn a stupid whore was what we were doing, but when I speak of GamerGate, I speak of what it became within days as people started rallying up around it and trying to make a movement about "ethics in journalism" out of it.

>>380614118
You wanted to prevent the current state of the industry by trying to run SJWs off it and trying to get them to lose any and all influence they possess.
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>>380613730

Given how good they are ruining their own careers, it only makes sense to me.
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>>380613871
gamergate literally killed /v/. if you generalize the threads in archives you can see a clear shift in fun dumb thread vs heavily politicized dumb threads.

fappening and gamergate changed /v/ for the worse
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>>380613642
the person who made the tweets at the top of every single one of these threads is who he's referring to, i'm sure. though i don't think she's actually a tranny

i don't know what this guy did or didn't say at this point but anyone who posted #gamergate or #notyourshield is someone i'm happy to watch be hassled relentlessly because they're a bandwagoning faggot and a closet misogynist under the guise of "ethics in games journalism"

i'm sure that it was "ethics" that triggered you fags and not the fact that zoe quinn is a whore and a cunt
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>>380614179
>Your strawman with the cuck and the mask does not apply
SJWism is indefensible when openly debated which is why SJWs pretend to be neutral, just like you're doing now.

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>>380610683
>>380610346
Someone explain, I am very confused
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>>380614341
Not completely accurate, we had shit political threads before GamerGate (We were triggered little fuckboys over Anita Sarkeesian's kickstarter, for example) but GamerGate was definitely a shift that made it much more frequent.
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>>380613968
>bitch

The Social Justice crowd was slowly but surely taking over every single aspect of video games, from development to publishing to reporting. Equity and Intersectionality are lies and absolutely cancerous concepts, and to allow a clique to establish a zeitgeist over an entire industry based upon those values is negligent at best, outright suicide at worst. I'll agree it got pretty fucking gay at times, but it was absolutely necessary and it had to happen.

>>380614341
You do realize that whatever reasons that prompted Gamer Gate to happen would still be there and would inevitably blow up at some point, right?
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>>380614317
>was what we

Get the fuck out you fucking newfag.
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>>380614341
Not just /v/ I've found, it's had a long lasting effect on a good chunk of the internet, followed up by the trump shit and boom, net's been ruined.
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>>380614102
good job displaying that you were never here before GG struck
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>>380614317
you don't have to run people out of the industry in order to stop rampant cliquish nepotism being used as a political platform for individual gamejournos and their indie-clique buddies.

You just have to some baseline of ethics.
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>>380614340
They don't even have careers, they're NEETs trying to run people out of business for not taking their fearmongering and mental gymnastics to heart.
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>>380614252
how so?
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>>380614381
Is every neutral person you meet in this board a SJW in disguise? How convenient. Saves you from having to think and argue your position. Truly makes one ponder.
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>>380612942
The decision ultimately lies with the employer. Communists are retarded but employers decide who gets to be on their property or not.
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>>380614428
SJWs RPing like they controle the internets
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>>380614341

GG was just a single domino, there was also moot selling the site, and everything about the election.
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>>380614597
no, but your post is retarded, and only a SJW could say something so retarded.
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>>380614515
Been here for a decade. I know that's still newfag by oldfag standards, but it's almost certainly longer than you've been in here.

>>380614564
So, you want to stop sites from expressing their political opinions about games. This doesn't seem wrong to you in any way, shape or form?
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>>380614118
Everything sjws touch turns to mediocre shit
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>>380613992
Read from the bottom up. Twitter is fucking retarded
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>>380614597
That makes about as much sense as being neutral to jihadism.
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>>380614317
>was what we were doing

What a piece of shit you are, can't even argue your point without lying and making things up. Zoe Quinn (and plenty other people) were named "Literally Who" exactly in order to distance the cause from their persons in particular.
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>>380614717

Anyone who uses "we" to refer to /v/ as whole is cancer.
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>>380614689
Whatever excuse suits you best. I know having to actually dedicate your neurons into arguing this debate must be real hard on you.
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>milkshake duck
god I fucking hate twitter memes
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>>380614341
Gamergate started the anti-SJW trend that became a hyper politically incorrect anti-globalism movement.
The fact that it fucking started on 4chan's /v/ board is just fucking insane. Especially sinces it's becoming dangerously nationalistic
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>>380614717
>So, you want to stop sites from expressing their political opinions about games. This doesn't seem wrong to you in any way, shape or form?
what does this have to do with clique neoptism fueled personal politics unrelated to video games?
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>>380612904

>Meanwhile the opposite side and also condemning him, cause he apollogised and because he's an indie dev, which they seem to inherently hate on principle these days.

I don't. Understandable he wants to remain as drama-free as possible under Microsofts heel. And nothing in the game itself has changed given it was never about GG in the first place.

I don't really get why SJWs are so angry about the universal income-future scenario either. Universal Income is not advertised as some world-saving grace that we just didn't figure out before, its advertised as a necessary evil in modern times where industry- and retail work are starting to disappear.

So Last Night's scenario is quite accurate in a way. In the future basic income may become a thing to make sure poor folks will be docile because they can afford their rent and food while still being poor, while the rich still keep getting richer.
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>>380614581

What the fuck do you mean "how so"?

They're periods in time.
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>>380610346
wtf is going on with that game?
also why did the dev apologized on the pc conference?
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>>380614760
is he saying that if abunch of people in the company dont like trump then the company shouldnt hire someone who likes trump ? or in that way right?
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>>380614689
>if you're retarded you must be an sjw
listen to yourself you paranoid child
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>>380614762
GamerGate started from us making threads about how she was an obnoxious ugly whore (all of which is true, btw) and how game journalists that fucked her publicized her game. You can lie to yourself, but if you were here, you know that's the truth.
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>>380614963
We can't even pay for fucking healthcare and they want universal income. Stop rushing the development of the human race, we're not fucking there yet we barely have it automation you fucking retards
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>>380610683
>Weclome to 2017
It's current year! You have to agree with me or you're literally Hitler!
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>>380613658
Fuck off Oceania scum.
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>>380614927
Explain to me how you intend (or intended) on ending clique neoptism fueled personal politics unrelated to video games. What methods are or were you planning to use?
I am assuming that you are pro-gamergate, by the way, correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>380610683
>>380613992
>>380614428
tl;dr: creating a political blacklist would be a very progressive thing to do.
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>>380610683
>You are privileged if you don't get to pick and choose who you work with based off your political and social ideology
That sounds like the exact opposite of being privileged.
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>Indie game gets a trailer played during one of the biggest presentations during E3.
>Drums up more interest than some of the AAA releases shown.
>Indie Clique drags up comments made years ago in an attempt to draw interest away from the game and it's creator.
>Rather than just being happy for the guy.

Why is the indie scene so self destructive? They just make themselves look like jealous arse-holes. Luckily most of the normie world seems like it couldn't give two tenths of a fuck.
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>>380613968
I'm glad they got got kicked off of /v/ because this is not the place to organize that kind of thing. But what it was about was gaming journalists taking bribes, both sexual and monetary to compromise their reviews and articles. They took them from companies through ad space and from a mutual desire to push a certain political agenda from certain indie devs.

In the end it did succeed. Because you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that actually trusts game reviews anymore. Even in Facebook and YouTube comments people joke about stupid IGN reviews like the "too much water" incident. Really they won when that ridiculous Law & Order episode was aired and portrayed them as some kind of gaming ISIS. It exposed how ridiculous the PC side of the argument had gotten and everyone made fun of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Man1oy4Xh_0

Now that people don't trust game news sites anymore no one cares about GG anymore accept the people who want to play the victim for cash so they mention it every now and then way outside the time it was ever actually relevant.
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>>380615259
Because they disagree with his politics and thus want him to fail
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>>380615124
Having a baseline of ethics, this isn't nearly as much of a problem in every other tech industry. At least with open mobs running around trying to create blacklists.

It's honestly not hard, it'd take minimal effort. The main issue is the people in the media seem themselves a political journalists at this point (check their twitters) I don't really think can be changed. Without a change in the old guard.
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>>380614882
>dangerously nationalistic
I like when you make it sounds like natiolism is something to be afraid of.
Maybe our definitons differ but nationalistic sentiment should be the norm.
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>>380615012
Yes, it absolutely started like this, just as you said. However, to say that this was the whole point and what most people were arguing for, is an extremely malicious mischaracterization of the whole thing, and the worst part is that I can tell you were here to witness all this, yet for some reason insist on twisting the truth. You may be an ideologue puppet; seek help.
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>>380610346
Never 5get
https://twitter.com/Gameonysus/status/874305527588769796
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>>380615358
Elaborate. What baseline of ethics? Who is enforcing those, and how?
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>>380615054

>we're not fucking there yet we barely have it automation you fucking retards

Yes you do, its called "3rd world country sweatshops.", who do that industry work for you these days.

What makes universal income appealing is the fact you generally get the same amount of money you already do from welfare, difference is theres no earning bureaucracy tied to it, so you can afford to try and establish a small business of your own, or work part-time or part-time hours that companies really like to do these days, without the fear of losing your house.

Thats what Universal Income is, its Welfare minus bureaucracy.
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>>380615124
Makes me want to research how payola ended in the radio world.
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can i get a quick rundown
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>>380615012

I was more mad about her sending her mob after depressed virgins while making a game about how horrible depression was, and trying to sabotage online charities because they weren't about her.

I also vaguely remember her group harassing a 12 year-old.
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>>380615124
>pro-gamergate
No such thing, dipshit. Gamergate is a controversy (hence the -gate suffix), not an organization of "harassers", no matter what SJWs like to say. It's like saying being against terrorism is being "pro 9/11", it makes no sense except for idiots like you to make an issue bipartisan to encourage "us vs them" mentality.
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>>380615465
As it yet to work anywhere that's not a homogenous society?
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>>380615403
>More people 'not interested' than 'not now'
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>>380610683
>If that sounds too bleak, you're in a position of privilege
That's some fucking draconian shit right there, does he realise he sounds like some kind of bigot?
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>>380615259

>Why is the indie scene so self destructive?

https://youtu.be/UmQ_8UdJ08s?t=3m40s


Because theres a lot of people in the clique who don't care much for video game development.
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>>380615509
someone disagreed with feminism and thus must have their life destroyed
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>>380614628
Problem is, producers are fucking idiots terrified of the idea of losing even a single sale.

If the leftists and SJWs scream loudly enough, the producer always caves, afraid of losing sales otherwise and totally missing the fact that the vapid little shitstains wouldn't buy the game in the first place.

It's like everyone in the fucking industry has forgotten the concept of 'target audience'.
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>>380615451
Traditionally it's supposed to be self-policed with trained journalists, editors, ombudsman, etc. That's the traditional news world. We live in the new world where all those people went away and were replaced by barely paid bloggers.

We live in a world where the word "objectivity" is scoffed at as an impossible task for any journalist. Not just in games media, but you even see people like Glen Greenwald say that. Not to say objectivity can ever be achieved, but it is not even attempted, in fact they lean on their personal subjective opinions more than ever without even trying to present a real story.

Opinion and news have effectively merged, again, not just in games. Though I think we say the worst of it in games before we ever saw the cracks in actual news media.
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>>380615396
You misunderstand me. I realize that there are tons of people that were sided with GamerGate for admirable reasons (which I agree with), and this developer is almost certainly a part of the group.
However, they were mostly puppets of a war between SJWs and Anti-SJWs that /v/, /pol/ and 8:2x2 chan were leading. There's a reason why Zoe Quinn got a million threads about her shitty free game being publicized by the devs she fucked, but then you have shit like Shadow of Mordor fucking around with brand sponsorship which absolutely no one in gamergate gave a fuck about, because it wasn't about SJWs so it wasn't worth fighting against

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/10/08/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-paid-branding-deals-should-have-gamergate-up-in-arms/

Just an example of many.
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>>380615509
lefties trying their hardest to ruin someone in a smear campaign because he was a GGer back in the day (you know like even TB was on some level before it was outed as a harassment campaign) and that he doesn't agree with them on things like universal income and one time he said something bad about feminism, so now to show how better they are, they're harassing him and making sure to spread as much bad stuff about him as possible and making sure no one buys his game
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>>380613871
Gamergate was the most autistic thing to come out of 4chan since Chanology. You mean to tell me that games journalism is corrupt and flawed?
NO FUCKING SHIT, it's ALWAYS been corrupt and flawed dating back to the days of magazines who accepted publisher gifts and ad money for high scores. Dan Hsu was one of the first to openly say "fuck that" and expose it but nobody cared because surprise, videogames are electronic toys and not a serious medium.
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>>380612789
He did not, the ones making the apology were microsoft people
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>>380615554

Well its on trial with 2000 people in my country right now. They get 40 euros more than they used to, but with less additional benefits.

Now what makes it different is if they find part-time job or decide to establish a company, that welfare money is not taken away from them. So it creates a huge incentive to be productive as fuck, because the only way you will actually benefit from the universal income-system more than you do from welfare is if you're proactively looking for a job or trying to establish a business of your own. Then that basic income money is that nice little extra on top of everything.
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>>380615642
>Because theres a lot of people in the clique who don't care much for video game development.

That's not a surprise with how much more work they put into their twitter output and pretty much everything else that isn't actually developing a video game.

Being an 'Indie Developer' is pretty much the same as being a 'Writer'.
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>>380615727
Objectivity in media reviews is absurd. Vidya reviews are inherently subjective because we aren't robots. That's how all analysis of any kind of art works.
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>>380615932
>it was always cancer stop complaining about it
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>>380614963
>I don't really get why SJWs are so angry about the universal income-future scenario either.
From what I can tell, it's less of that aspect and more of the "This is what happens when you let FEMINISTS! make decisions! (I'm an egalitarian that's different)" angle that his tweets had. And nowadays, everyone who made those kinds of tweets have either mellowed out and are embarrassed by them or have an anime profile and think Breitbart is right about everything. He seems to fall into the former category, while the people in the latter category are upset that he isn't one of them.

However, none of what he said in his tweets has anything to do with the game. People just like being mad.
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>>380616043
Not talking about reviews, I'm talking about literally every facet of those sites.

They literally had a media blitz on the guy about that stupid racist milkshake duck shit. No one has even played the game yet and they're already writing articles about how it's not cyberpunk.
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>>380610683

>they are still asspained and going on that their criticism of the former GG developer didn't do a single thing

imagine being so mad that someone who doesn't share your views is experiencing success?

must physically hurt being that pathetic
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>>380616070
Not the anon you're replying to, but see: >>380615918
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>>380615509
three years ago The Last Night's dev said his game will portray a society that went astray due to radical progressive policies
he also agreed with some GG stuff
he was made to publicly apologize and everything that hinted at an anti-radical-left sentiment was removed from his game
despite that, twitter warriors still want his head and they're now RPing like they're some secret society that protects the world from Nazis
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OH SHIT AFTER A BIT OF GOOGLE I THINK I SOLVED WHAT THIS TWITTER SCREENSHOT THREAD IS ABOUT
The Last Night E3 2017 Reveal


the milkshake duck is a twitter meem about people who get famous briefly then everyone finds out they're a crappy person
the OP screenshot is an altered version of the neon sign shown in the game called "The Last Night" Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pupdeq1MoVw
"The Last Night" game got some buzz and hype but the developer is a goobergater who apologized on stage or some shit

tl;dr this thread is useless e-drama.
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>>380610683
You see it's funny because Moral Guardians always have the most skeletons in their closet
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>>380616195
Opinion pieces are subjective too. They're being paid to write their shit opinions because people click their articles (both those who agree and disagree and just want to examine a different perspective)

How is that wrong? Not the opinion itself, I mean. The act of expressing it on your own website.
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>>380610683

I love how SJW's are all about progressive & open values and for free speech.

Oh, but not your values and your free speech. We have to silence and blacklist your views because we disagree with them.
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>>380616432
let me put it this way.

SJWs believe by giving this game any attention they actually promoting Nazism through "normalization" which is literally no different than actually being a Nazi. By speaking positively about this game you are effectively a Nazi.

SJWs don't like Nazis, they want to punch them in the face.
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>>380615918
You are correct. Although I disagree with the notion that attacking Zoe Quinn was the sole objective (or an objective at all), I won't really defend Gamergate as a movement purely focused on defending ethics in journalism -- let's be honest here, it was basically an extension of the centuries old fight between Left and Right wings of politics, although one says that outside of anonymity at their own risk. That said, I stand by my statements: the grip of left-wing ideologues on the industry was reaching endemic and dangerous levels, and the establishment of an all-dictating zeitgest would've been disastrous for everyone.
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>>380610346
What does it mean?

>>380610683
?
Isn't it the opposite? If you can pick and chose who to work with, you must be well off enough that you can be considered to be in a position of privilege. At least, it certainly can't be the other way around, as those with options/opportunity/privilege aren't in a position to pick and chose where their money comes from.
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>>380615932
I don't understand what point you're trying to make. You'd rather everyone just ignored the problem and went over their way as things continued to degenerate?
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>>380616470
And they wondered why the Dems lost the Whitehouse
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>>380613871
>>380614089
>>380613968
>GamerGate wasn't a meme and there was nothing wrong with it.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that goober, Gamergate was the most sexist and destructive event to ever happen in games
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>>380615998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFkxeuxq7vk#t=52s
they came out of his larynx, therefore he said them
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>>380616484
>SJWs believe by giving this game any attention they actually promoting Nazism through "normalization" which is literally no different than actually being a Nazi.
Then aren't they failing themselves? Making tweets about it and long-winded articles is giving the game attention. Just google "Last Night" and see what comes up. Discussion about this game is not being censored.

>By speaking positively about this game you are effectively a Nazi. SJWs don't like Nazis, they want to punch them in the face.
I disagree with that, as I'm sure you do. But that doesn't mean that they are wrong in expressing that stuff in their articles.
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>>380616654
I'd rather you autistic faggots didn't sperg out 24/7 and try to create chanology 2.0. Stop giving these publications/people attention you dumb cunts.
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>>380616724
52s
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>>380615918
>which absolutely no one in gamergate gave a fuck about
why do you lie? that shit was all over KiA and TotalBiscuit chimped out about it
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>>380616705
>>>>>>reddit
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>>380616789
It's quite clear they manipulate their coverage to serve their political purposes. They're not opinions, they're not subjective reviews. They are filtering and controlling their content for political agenda, period.

It's not a free press, it's McCarthyism.
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>>380610346
The thing that irks me about Milkshake Duck is that, at least to me, the original comment was ridiculing the fickle nature of the internet crowd, but everyone just uses it like a generic insult targeting the focus of attention.
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>>380616803
Your understand about things is that of a child. I can only feel sorry for you, because your life must be a living hell of endless frustration.
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>>380610346
are you a boy or a girl ?
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>>380616848
I was being hyperbolic. People did give a fuck about it, but the majority of GamerGate preferred to keep piling on controversies that were more intrinsically connected with leftism and SJWs.
If nothing else, I'm sure you agree with me that that was the case over here on /v/. If we were to go to the archives and search for Zoe Quinn and then search for shady Shadow of Mordor deals, you and I both know what's gonna get most results.
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>>380616043
You could make an attempt to separate your political beliefs from everything else that pertains to the quality of a game.
Fucking Christ Centered Gamer pulled it off, why can't Polygon do the same?
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>>380610346
Is this from a virgin walk image
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>>380616518
How do you feel about the many people that claim that we still live in that zeitgeist, which is why there are so many black people in the E3 announced games?
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>>380616974

SJWs are the same people who pushed the term "Tomgirl" they're Chris-chan tier special.
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>>380612571
Maybe things have changed, but I don't recall politics being a issue to not buy the game, if anything it was the insertion of it that chapped hides. As I recall the usual argument was something like

>it's a walking sim and the only reason it won any award or that anyone cares about it is because of "muh lesbians".

That strikes me more as derision of politics in games.
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>>380616789
It doesn't count if they can use it for their SJW outrage clickbait. It's more about "neutral places" giving these people "platforms". They reserve the right to shit on them all they want.
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>>380616705
>misread it as "jizzhands"
thought she was finally admitting something
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>>380610346
>>380612942
Why should anybody give 1 second of a thought for a game that this mouse, no, this gnat of man who would whore his mother if a shrapnel faced dyke with a sci-fi hair dew told him to?

What the fuck is in the water to make french men buckle under the slightest pressure?

He had a lose/lose situation and still chose the disgraceful path.

Apologize
>SJWs and gatekeeping indie devs hate you

Don't Apologize
>4chan hates you
>The Indiedevs, NeoGAF, twitter, & tumblr still hate you for thinking apologizing was going to save face.

This french fuck needs to work on tanning his armpits.
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>>380614882
>The fact that it fucking started on 4chan's /v/ board
You are aware this whole shit started on reddit, right? That's were the guy posted all those things about Zoe
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>>380617027
Jesus christ, I can SMELL you through the screen.
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>>380610683
>vetting game developers but not immigrants
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>>380615403
She would have deleted the poll if she was a SJW upset about the result. People in the comments are telling her it "backfired" and her response is "a poll cannot backfire. It was a question." She also says "I am biased but everyone is free to buy/play what they want" and "most people (who voted) don't care. Which was what I wanted to know about." Why are people going nuts about this poll, again?
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>>380610683
>An ideological extremist has a 'them or us' mentality.
Wow! Who would have guessed?
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>>380616918
You're right that they are injecting their political views in the vidya articles that they publish, but what do you intend on doing to stop them? A few GamerGaters tried to get the sites shut down and losing heavy amounts of money with a blow against their advertising deals. You think that's right? To me that seems like the exact kind of censorship that the more reasonable people in the GamerGate movement are against.
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>>380612942

So he changed description to be less political. Didn't you want the games to be nonpolitical? Or is it okay to be political as long those politics happen to angle with your opinions?
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>>380617360
Nice reddit spacing
Nearly forgot it's summer
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>>380615403
>3 variations of no
>still lost
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>>380617115
No, I get it, you don't want video games to be heavily politicized, but what are you suggesting? Should sites that inject their political opinions on video games be banned? There's an audience for those articles.
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>>380617628
At the same time you have all the people writing articles about how gaming always has politics and games need to be more political, but suddenly those politics aren't okay because they aren't politics they agree with.
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>>380610683
Has there ever been an indie game where the devs heavily involve themselves with politics that has actually been good?
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>>380617740
they're broken paragraphs, albeit one sentences. fuck off.
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>>380617224
I think people are free to make whatever games they want, regardless of minority representation or whatever. In the end of the day, you and I both are acutely aware that this is just business and all about making cash: if the people behind their marketing teams think that including black protagonists in games will increase their sales, my opinion about this fact can amount to only as much as pure speculation.
With that said, what does worries me is that much like every ideology taken to its logical extensions, Intersectionality demands ever increasingly queer representations in itself -- not because it celebrates diversity, but because it rewrites history in order to destroy the top of whatever hierarchy it aims to attack. To illustrate: that new Uncharted expansion/DLC where you play as the chicks has nothing wrong with it, but to make a new CoD game set on WW2 and to seriously add black females as Wermacht/Waffen SS soldiers is nothing but the worst example of ideological brainwashing; and as far as I can tell, that's not at all a good thing.
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>>380617627
Well people asking them to stop that but it just got worse.

GamerGate only became a thing because the discussion around this shit was immediately shut down, deleted and banned outright. It created the largest Streisand effect that I know of.

The core issues around that shit we're never really addressed, and it actively got worse. People doubled down and actively began hiring even more of these people into the industry of the years.

What fucking now? I guess we post on a Burmese weaving forum about it in the hopes if it actually being addressed at a formal level.
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>>380617565
Becuase she called the developer garbage and tagged him into the initial post.

It was clearly meant as an attack on the guy.
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>>380615271
this
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>>380615403
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>>380617959
The issue is that they are not actually doing anything wrong. They're just publishing their opinions. The only way to "fight them" is to make articles that debate them. The scummy stuff trying to get them taken down or censored is what was wrong with GamerGate.
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>>380617740
>reddit spacing
hownew.ru
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>>380612942

I wonder how much of the game has been rewritten already.
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>>380618257
>hownew.ru
>defending reddit spacing
hi, reddit
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>story heavy game

That's all I needed to hear to discard this """""game""""".
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>>380618346
Hello, newt gingrich
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>>380614521
People just realized how powerful the internet is. We have legitimate political parties actually paying people to astroturf on the internet, of course it's been politicized.
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>>380618241
no one is talking about censorship at any level. We're talking about what happened. Who said censorship anywhere?

This is why people use the normal_person.png, endless apologetics and mental gymnastics trying to saying the discussion itself shouldn't exist.

normal_person.png
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>>380614882
what's wrong with loving my country and not wanting it to get bombings every other week.
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This drama is gay
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>>380617565
hi janet
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Can Leftists ever shut the fuck up? Can we just round up each one of those faggots and put them in an adult Chuck E Cheese, where they wallow away for the rest of their lives in a comfortable safe space, away from the rest of us.
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>>380618456
so is your dad but you don't see Jamal complaining.
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>>380612942
what a stupid fucking idea lmao
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>>380618410
On the post you're quoting
>The only way to "fight them" is to make articles that debate them
This is what you said in response:
>endless apologetics and mental gymnastics trying to saying the discussion itself shouldn't exist.
The way I read it, you seemed to be implying that I was trying to say the discussion itself shouldn't exist, when I said the exact opposite.
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>>380618241

That's not really possible because SJWs (and by extension cultural marxists) don't allow debate of any kind.

They'd rather play the oppression olympics, cry victimisation, harass and dox you to silence any potential debate.
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can someone give me quick rundown on everything that happened? i have no idea
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>>380618707
Who is talking about censorship? SJWs, that's who.

>don't you know complaining about censorship is censorship?
this is retarded.
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>>380618386
listening to roddypoo lovers
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>>380618950
What the fuck are you talking about? You didn't address anything I said at all.
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>>380617565
She just has the bare minimum of self awareness necessary to realize that deleting something you put on the internet doesn't stop everyone from seeing it anyway. She'd look like an even bigger fool and at least she understands that.
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>>380619054
You said the idea of attempting any level of objectivity when covering games when working in the press as being essentially censorship.

I'm asking why that's censorship.
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>>380610346
>>380610683
Looks like i missed another shitstorm, where do i start to dig?
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>>380615932
>You mean to tell me that games journalism is corrupt and flawed?
>NO FUCKING SHIT, it's ALWAYS been corrupt and flawed dating back to the days of magazines who accepted publisher gifts and ad money for high scores.

GG wasn't trying to point that out; everyone knew that already. It was consumers pushed too far and finally frustrated enough to attack back. GG didn't start because Zoe and what she did with journalists, it was a reaction to the journalists attacking gamers in mass for even questioning it. That's why a bunch of people, who didn't even know who Zoe was or even care about the journalists before, all suddenly jumped in.

I was just a spectator in it all, but yeah, I think once things escalate to that extent, there should be push back by people.
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>>380618717
And the problem gets worse when it becomes a war where both sides do that.
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>>380618845
developer of the game that people showed some interest retweeted some GG thing ages ago
the SJW thing on the pic related got mad and created poll with loaded question here >>380615403 but failed miserably
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>>380617565
>Why are people going nuts over a biased poll made by a SJW "journalist" where she calls someone who doesnt agree with her garbage, and then proceeds to get rekt by the results and can only reply with a video of a nigger saying "its a question" over and over again?

Geeze, Louise, I have no idea
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>>380615674
People should be free to do that. As long as there is no coercion involved and everyone respects that there is always going to be a market for every sort of game. I agree with you in the sense that people should have some integrity a bit when confronted with commercial failure and stick with their principles a bit.
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>>380619249
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Ej3xzPLGc
This guys annoying but the summary of the situation is on point.
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>>380619236
Attempting any level of objectivity when covering games when working in the press is not censorship. If you create a video game website that tries to be 100% objective, that is your right.

Trying to force other sites that don't care about being objective and are proudly subjective to try to be in your standards of objectivity implies some level of censorship, yes. If they don't want to be objective and their audience doesn't want them be objective, how are you going to change them?
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>>380619317
Everytime some spic tries to justify illegals entering the US because of hot latinas post that picture
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>>380619472
No one cares except the journos themselves. People who buy these games don't care, they don't even know. It's a vocal minority with way too much voice in this industry. It does not represent consumers.
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>>380616020
>Giving people other's money for nothing
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>>380617880
Fez
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>>380619552
So you're cool with privately enforced McCarthyism, general industry corruption and nepotism?
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>>380612382
He is a fucking idiot, we have had enough examples of why you don't apologize.

They never forgive so an apology just angers the only possible allies you had.

Now everyone hates him.
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>>380619760
I'm asking you for a solution to those problems that doesn't involve censoring or trying to shut down sites you disagree with.
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>>380616287
Did he really get rid of that stuff? I was interested in how the idea would be handled. That was my main motivation for buying it but I'll still give it a chance.
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>>380610683
These people are so in love with their ideology that it's painful to see how it might affect the industry. These red scare tactics have got to go but they won't listen, I just hope most people in gaming aren't this hellbent on censorship. Fuck em.
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>>380619452
>Nintendo America translators obviously reference -gate as a suffix meaning a controversy
>REEEE IT CAN ONLY MEAN THE VERSION THAT APPLIES TO MEEEEEE
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>>380619298

Yeah the radical left started playing identity politics which then taught the right to play them in return.

So you have radical marxists on the left calling for suppression of free speech, infinite gender identities, no platforming speakers & antifa facists.

Then on the right you have idk, pol? kekistan? the (((jews)))?
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>>380619842
I support him. I don't like this logic of "Please, don't apologize, stick with the GamerGate audience. We'll support you just to piss those SJWs off".

What if he grew out of GamerGate and realized that there are problems to that movement? What if he doesn't want to be associated with that shit anymore? Sure, there are still gonna be mega-SJWs that will only be on his side when he literally cuts his dick off and gives it to Empress Zoe Quinn, but there are plenty of people that are somewhere between those two extremes.
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When will people realize that giving this talentless cunt attention is the only thing keeping her around.
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>>380619872
I don't solution, I previously told you the best I had was we need to begin talking about it. Maybe this time that can happen without mass industry censorship about it.

In a perfect work you'd have people like Stephen Totilo crack down on his staff like a professional and good Chief Editor. He didn't that, he almost certainly won't do it now. The people who we're the people "you'd crack down on" as a boss a media outlet trying to do a good job have since been promoted, and are senior. They've hired new people who agree with them.

Clearly none of that is going to happen, which is why I have no real solutions beyond let's at least talk about it so there's some attention on what's going on in this fucked industry.
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>>380620174
>Stephen Totilo crack down on his staff
For what?
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>>380620309
covering their roommates, covering people they sleep with, maybe have a private talk about twitter-fits and trying to maintain a degree of objectivity.

You know, being a good boss. Doing a good job. Things may have experienced if you have ever worked in an office.
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>It's a gamergate thread
>In 2017
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>>380620434
>and trying to maintain a degree of objectivity
But they don't want to be objective. That's not what their site is about.
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>>380612979
Good meme, but GG doesn't have anything to do with this "drama", dipshit.
Must be fun being a certified revisionist.
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>>380619964
>red scare tactics
Ironic coming from you lot
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>>380619653
Pretty much. More games needs to be made that are critical of communism.
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>>380620530
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>>380620437
gamergate will never die, it's an eternal boogeyman now
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>>380620543
The fuck? The reason why SJWs are shitting all over him was because he supported GamerGate. He later apologized for it and that made GamerGaters mad. How the fuck is GG not related to this? Inform yourself on the subject you're discussing.
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>>380620702
>that made GamerGaters mad
this your first thread?
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>>380612571
But they literally are trying to stop it from being released.

That's a uniquely SJW type of behavior, before anyone starts screaming POOOOLLLLLLLLL.

If anything even makes it onto /pol/'s radar, they want it to be released just to complain and shit on it, not unlike /v/ and literally "every game ever released".

In this case, the premise sounds interesting. We've got a billion "cyberpunk corporate takeover" games, but I've never played a "socialist library dystopian future" game.
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>>380620618
It's not a "boogeyman" if at the drop of a hat you people are ready to grab the pitchforks again
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>>380610346
Can I get a quick rundown on this drama?
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>>380620851
yes, it is
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>>380620804
>We've got a billion "cyberpunk corporate takeover" games, but I've never played a "socialist library dystopian future" game.
That's because cyberpunk is inherently left-wing
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>>380620916
He said he supported egalitarianism, and not feminism, and also supported GG years ago.

That makes him a literal nazi, which is why nobody should buy his game about the perils of leftist fascism.
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>>380620916
>be gamedev in 2014 support GG hashtag
>make big E3 splash with muh game
>NeoGAF, IdleThumbs, Zoe Quinn and the SJW journo cabal all get together to REEEE
>publisher writes shitty (from both perspective) apology letter
>gamedev gives vague half-hearted "this does not represent me thing" on stage
>SJWs not satisfied at all
>milkshake duck meme (look it up) all over gamejournos twitters
>gamergate is 2017
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>>380621048
I bet you think SJWs are a real problem though
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>>380615271
>that ridiculous Law & Order episode
That show went downhill after Christopher Meloni left
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>>380612942
Cool plot, it's very much like that in Don't Bite the Sun. I would hate it if he changes it because of sjw rats.
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>>380620008
When GamerGate tried to get sites like Kotaku shut down by trying to get their advertisers off them, is that not attempts at censorship?
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>>380614341
Spectacular revisionism, my post-ironical human being!
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>>380621058
No, it's a mix of Libertarian citizens against Authoritarian corporations, and the intermingling between the two.

Leftists would be turned into rocket fuel in a cyberpunk future.
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>another pixelshit indie adventure game
>except this time it's made by some random right-aligned hipster instead of a leftist one
>/v/ suddenly loves it
What happened?
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>>380621379
I love pixelshit indie adventure games.
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>>380621126
>>380621157
wew so he did nothing wrong? Its just lefties whinging over nothing again.
>his game about the perils of leftist fascism.
Sounds bretty nice.
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>>380621379
because we love grapes that are hated by foxes
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>>380621379
>Far right
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>>380621187
why does this thread exist?
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>>380621379
>right-aligned hipster
but... a-anon
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>>380621157
Why was the apology letter shitty?
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>>380621286

Boycott is not censorship. Underhanded tactics are.
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>>380613440
>He disagreed with me once
>Now he has to jump through all these ridiculous hoops and maybe i'll forgive him

This is why politics in America suck, Everyone thinks their opponents have to be faultless paragons of the virtues they themselves don't even completely live up to before the other side can even be seen as human.
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>>380621507
Who are you quoting?
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>>380621286
No.

And if you think otherwise, there's literally no other word to describe you other than "cuckold".

Normal human beings vote with their wallet, and telling companies they won't buy their products for supporting absolutely abysmal journalism is voting with your wallet.
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>>380621379
>What happened?
a shitty E3 as usual

and this shitty internet drama is the most entertaining thing it spawned
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>>380621190
>implying svu was ever good
Every episode was the same:
>a young girl was raped/sexually assaulted
>male in girl's life was the one who did it (father, brother, bf, husband...)
>man goes behind bars
>Hungarian women has smug look on her face
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>>380620851
It really is, the movement is more or less dead. The only time it gets brought up anymore is when someone tries to blame criticism on the movement or a case like this where someones past is dug into and brought up against them.
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>>380621585
>>380621642
How is it any different from SJWs going "We don't want to support this game called Last Night because the developer said things for GamerGate and against Feminism, please blacklist it"?
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>>380620562
>/v/ is one person
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>>380621620
Apparently my own dyslexia
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>>380621828
Industry people whose job it is to cover the industry is not the same as consumers. One is called corruption and the other is called capitalism.

Your grasp of society seems loose, at best.
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>>380621828
Because they try to get people fired, using their positions in """"""gaming journalism""""" to give it ruinous scores, and otherwise censor it for being """"toxic"""".

/v/ doesn't do that.

"We" want shit games to come out in order to shit on them.
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>>380621326
>Muh libertarian vs authoritarian meme
It's literally about the excesses of capitalism, about the dangers of a completely DEREGULATED market, where the government is too weak to prevent corporations taking over and they can get away with anything. Cyberpunk is a libertarian nightmare. Punk, from which the name cyberpunk is derived, is also mostly associated with left wing ideologies.
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>>380621379
/v/ only likes good pixel shit, look at hotline miami.
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>>380622023
First off, Neogaf are not industry people any more than we are. Secondly, are you seriously saying that someone in the video games industry is not allowed to have political views and act based on them?
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>>380622172
nice SJW meme
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>>380621585
Right, underhanded tactics like lying about ethics violations because you dislike someone's politics
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>>380622118
I don't know if you are one of the people I was replying to, but I was comparing it to when GamerGate tried to get Kotaku to lose advertising money with boycotting.
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>>380622180
>hotline miami
>good
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>>380617628
Shitting on Communism isn't political, it's expected. McCarthy was right. Churchill was right. Patton was right. We should've invaded the USSR while we had the chance.
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>>380621556
Because some cunt got triggered by twitter?
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>>380622237
I clarify the difference between industry corruption and consumer choice and you go off about NeoGAF

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>>380621828

>How is it any different from SJWs going "We don't want to support this game called Last Night because the developer said things for GamerGate and against Feminism, please blacklist it"?

GG used commonly recognized methods of boycott to boycott the sites.

SJWs use underhanded bullshit instead.
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>>380619317
What's the running cucumber about?
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>>380621756
Don't forget the episode that dealt with drunken consent

>A women who's drunk can't give consent
>It's the male's responsibility to know when she's drunk
>What if the man's drunk?
>That's no excuse
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>>380621642
Right, so then SJWs don't do anything wrong either
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>>380622348
We post archive links to Kotaku because we don't want to give them advertising money because of our clicks. That isn't censorship.
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>>380622536
>industry corruption is the same thing as consumer choice
stop repeating this meme
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>>380622421
People that have vidya blogs where they write their opinion pieces are consumers too, as are their audience.

>>380622430
They're saying they're not gonna buy the game because the developer supported GamerGate and they tried to get Microsoft to blacklist it. How is one more underhanded than the other?
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>>380622172
>Punk, from which the name cyberpunk is derived, is also mostly associated with left wing ideologies.

No, it's associated with anti-authoritarian ideologies.

I'm looking forward to right-libertarian punk in the coming years, as SJWs have been becoming increasingly fascist in their ideology and tactics.
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>>380622693
>People that have vidya blogs where they write their opinion pieces are consumers too, as are their audience.
hilarious

tell me, which outlet do you work for?
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>>380621803
Yeah, except for all the people going "gamergate was right" and getting ready to dump all the same talking points all over again. Just because they stopped tweeting the hashtag doesn't mean they're no longer around. Hell, some haven't even stopped tweeting the hashtag. "Gamergate is dead" followed by a bunch of gamergate talking points is about as convincing as "I've never even been to /pol/" followed by a screed about Cultural Marxism.
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>>380622648
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about when GamerGaters were emailing major advertisers saying that they are a shit site that promotes shit leftist views and that they should drop advertising on them.
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>>380614849
>Anyone who uses "we" to refer to /v/ as whole is cancer.

Now you can spot the newfag. WE used to wage glorious war with everyone and anyone who slighted us, YOU sit and bitch about the silliest shit, getting blamed for gamergate.
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>>380615271

This pretty much, convincing the other side was not a realistic goal to begin with. San Fran hipsters, Kotaku staff and SJWs all have a monetary interest to keep doing the corrupt bullshit they do, they're not going to stop doing it. And what they are doing is not an outright crime either, so theres no way to really stop them from doing it either.

What matters and why GG won was they managed to turn the general opinion against SJWs, well not by themselves but they were one of the building blocks that made mainstream laugh at SJWs just as much as they used to laugh at Furries or Emoes.

https://youtu.be/zLS-npemQYQ
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>>380622536
they don't just vote with their wallets instead they try and contact a developer's boss to get them fired, or they give a game bad reviews because of someone's personal politics. They actively try to get people and games cut before they even have a chance to come out.
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>>380621928
Who's talking about /v/?
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>throwing an autistic /pol/ fit on the internet using your account
serves him right tqbh
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>>380622779
It's completely true. Vidya bloggers are consumers and have the same rights as consumers that you do. I think you're being very hypocritical.
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>>380622823
You mean like 20 articles from almost every gaming site coming out with "gamers are dead" within 48 hours?
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>>380622693

>How is one more underhanded than the other?

GG is consumers and customers. SJWs are made of "journalists", industry insiders and PR people. Thats the main difference. Nobody would care about Legobutts rant about Last Night if she wouldnt have a PR company tied to indie video games. If she was just a normal consumer with no relations to video game business other than buying games, then her boycott is fine.
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>>380622824
Well I don't agree with those people. Who did it? Do you have the emails?
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>>380622118
Are you seriously telling me you'd stop bitching about blacks and gays and bitches and whores if you actually ran a video games blog?

Well, I guess that's more principled than all the video game blogs that sprang up in gamergate's wake which tried to pander to the /v/ crowd
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>>380622942
>the SJWs who live in their SF echo chamber are representative of consumers
yeah, no. Don't even try to make that argument. The people who write in games media are _NOT_ representative of any major demographic of gaming. Not the normies, not the hardcore, not /v/, just SF SJW hipsters which represents so few people in reality.
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>>380622452
They did have an episode implying that many black people are homosexual. It was the episode about being on the "down-low" and Iced Tea gave exposition about it, before turning away and saying "man, that's what I read..."
I don't know how any of those procedural cop shows kept getting renewed. The stories were always the same, there was no mystery, never any twists or seeing something from the accused's point of view, and we never had a connection to the police officers. The main characters were always stern, heartless drones with a propensity for justice.
I did learn that martial rape was a thing from one episode.
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>>380622823
Did they just start posting it or are they posting it in response? You can't claim people won't shut up about X when you're the one that brings up X every time. You really can't complain when every time you bring up X you claim it was a harassment campaign designed to keep women out of gaming.
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>>380610683
>can't get an IT job in the current year whitout a facebook account with 200+ firends filled with nothing but left wing propaganda

So this is the power of The Western Civilization? Wow...
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>>380622824
But they are shit sites that promote shit journalism, and are merely informing them that they won't be buying their product if they continue to advertise on sites that conduct abysmally biased journalism.

That's completely different from "BAN IT BECAUSE ITS HATE SPEECH!"
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>>380622767
I'm looking forward to actual punks stomping your dumb ass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MkRuV0aCcI
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>>380622865
Amazing movie.
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>>380623252
>be sysadmin/programmer
>other sysadmins and programmers on facebook are pretty cool
>all the pleb-tier forever helpdesk people spamming OccupyDemocrat shit
really activates my almonds
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>>380622452
wew lad
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>>380622430
>GG used commonly recognized methods of boycott to boycott the sites.
Under false pretenses.
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>>380622865
It's not just "gaming journalism" that does that either.

It was many people's first introduction into how the mainstream media actually works.
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>>380623187
Wasn't Ice Tea's son beaten for being gay in one episode and one of his kids was charged with rape and got off scot free?"
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>>380623120
Those SJWs are consumers too. There are plenty of regular SJW consumers too. Are you implying everyone that posts in Neogaf is someone that has more ties to the industry than you?
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>>380622917
Right, so what /v/ does as well.
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>>380622941
>anyone who doesn't believe in infinite genders is literally /pol/ incarnate
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>>380623454
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>>380623161
I didn't say that they representative of all costumers, or even the majority, or even a major part of them. How does them being a minority make them have less of a right to voice their opinions and attempt to boycott?
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>>380623454
>it only takes a single day to ruin someone else's life
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>>380623552
>There are plenty of regular SJW consumers
no there isn't, you're not fooling anyone, SJW.
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>>380622452
>hating on SVU
But anon, their episodes were great, they were pretty stupid and entertaining, dont you remember the GTA one, or the one about a rapist that raped in real life, but also on his second life account.

That was fantastic, all the episodes were taken straight out of the headlines and digested by retarded writers to made them as simple as posible so americans could watch them without getting a headache
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>>380623302
>But they are shit sites that promote shit journalism
Not everyone agrees. SJWs don't agree. Kotaku's general audience doesn't agree.

>That's completely different from "BAN IT BECAUSE ITS HATE SPEECH!"
How is it different?
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>>380622767
Punk just does whatever people would most commonly find offensive. That's why they sing about taking down the government, and cheating on their woman, and put a naked little girl in a sultry pose on their album covers.Punks """"poltical alignment" is "fuck you".
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>>380623671
they represent less than 1% of the consumers and have 99% of the voice.

They are literally the 1%
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>>380623089
Well, I refer you to >>380623213
>Did they just start posting it or are they posting it in response?

As for who brought up gamergate, why does it matter? The fact is the guy supported gamergate. If pointing this out leads to a whole bunch of gamergaters jumping to his defence and reiterating what a whore Zoe Quinn is while they're at it, they're obviously still going strong.
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>>380621960
Kek
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>>380623787
The one with Robin Williams was the best.
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ITT
>hello fellow vidya gamers
>how about those innocent social media personalities trying to get a man fired because he didn't cuck hard enough
>they did nothing wrong amirite?

Daily reminder that being a weak faggot, and not telling screeching cunts to go fuck themselves when they call you a bigot, will literally only end in your own subversion.
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>>380623683
Alright, whatever. Let's accept the premise that they are a pretty small minority, that doesn't mean that they have less (or no) rights to boycott something.
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>>380612979
>He did right in apologizing and dissociating himself from the GamerGate meme.
no he didnt?
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>>380623904
We're not talking about consumers boycotting, we're talking about corruption industry.
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>>380623142
>if you actually ran a video games blog?

How much will the Jews pay me to shit all over straight white males?
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>>380619992
>Five guys
>-gate
>Exposed
You seriously cannot be this dense.
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>>380623120
Her boycott is fine anyway in a free market. If you disagree, then I welcome your support of a strong government capable of regulating speech in the name of fairness.
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>>380623787
They're fun to watch like The Room is fun to watch.
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>>380623798
You have yet to explain why that makes them have less (or no) rights to express their opinions and boycott shit.
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>>380623873
This.

>Wanted revenge
>Stood up against the law and won
>Kidnaps a cop to prove a point
>Actually remorseful
>Gets away with everything
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>>380624063
>why do media industry professionals not have the right to promote boycotts to other people in the industry and their readers
GEE I DON'T KNOW
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>>380623360
Typical leftist fascism.

Try using your words like an adult before devolving into your typical nigger state of violence.
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>>380623302
>If I disagree with it it's shitty biased journalism but if I agree with it it's unfairly labelled hate speech ;_;
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>>380623904
>Actively trying to sabotage someone, get them fired, or break up their personal relationships because they disagree with your worldview is boycotting
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>>380617108
Because Gamergate was b&d on /v/. Plus, you had to choose between shitting on Shadows of Mordor, which was inevitably a good game, and shitting on the SJW cancer.
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>>380619952
his game was essentially a game where feminism succeeded but I think he changed the steam description but the game isnt out yet so have to find out if he double backed
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>>380623360
>actual punks
>stomping anyone

It's like you believe that
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>>380623454
The funny thing is that saying a Man has the presence of mind while drunk while a women doesn't just enforces the notion that men are more intelligent than women
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>>380623889
I support him. I don't like this logic of "Please, don't apologize, stick with the GamerGate audience. We'll support you just to piss those SJWs off. If you apologize, you're a weak faggot".

What if he grew out of GamerGate and realized that there are problems to that movement? What if he doesn't want to be associated with that shit anymore? Sure, there are still gonna be mega-SJWs that will only be on his side when he literally cuts his dick off and gives it to Empress Zoe Quinn, but there are plenty of people that are somewhere between those two extremes.
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>>380624163
Oh yeah, we got a real punk on our hands here boys
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>>380623787
>raped in real life
>also on his second life account
Actually...I do remember that. God, this show was garbage.
The show was so bland and the characters were so 1D that it was only good for background noise in a waiting room. Which makes me wonder if that is what it's designed for...
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>>380623997
The Neofaggots complaining about this game and trying to get it shut down are consumers, even if they're a minority.
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>>380623552

>Those SJWs are consumers too.

Sure they are, thats why every product that panders to them is a failure. Because they're loyal consumers.

They're a very loud minority, that is all. And if they can't get their way being loud, they get their way by fucking their way to the top, then blacklisting competitors with underhanded corrupt bullshit.
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>>380623541
Season 13. Episode 21
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>>380623454
This folder is aimed at men and it's not talking about how they should avoid raping women but how they should avoid getting in a situation where they might be held legally accountable.
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>>380624212
>but if I agree with it it's unfairly labelled hate speech ;_;

I recognize how biased Breitbart and Fox News are.

As well as WaPo, Gawker, Salon, CNN, Huffpo, etc are.

Shitty journalism is shitty journalism. Not everyone is a bipartisan fuck like you.
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>>380624154
Check back if you ever figure it out.

>>380624225
How is it any different to actively sabotage Kotaku and their employer's livelihoods? Also, who is trying to sabotage the french dude's personal relationships?
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>>380624487
No one is talking about NeoGAF other than it represents what SJWs think. We're talking about people in the industry, who by the way, often read and post on NeoGAF. _ESPECIALLY_ journalists.

We are specifically talking about journalists and other consumer-facing industry people like Felix.
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>>380624040

>Her boycott is fine anyway in a free market.

I just told you she has a PR firm that promotes other indie games, you dyslexic retard. Even free market has regulations against trying to pull this kind of shit against your competitors.
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>>380620062
>grew out of GamerGate
>growing out of the truth
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>>380620702
>developer said "mean things" in the past
>fastforward to 2017 and he creates something that goes against the mainstream
>status quo doesn't like that, so they dig up the "mean things" he said years ago
>then the usual procedure of coersion and social pressure occurs, in order to silence dissident opinions and points of view
And this fucking kid has the nerve to tell me to inform myself.
Delete all your social media accounts, disembowel your family and then kill yourself, moron.
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>>380624361
In general modern feminism paints women as helpless retards that need to be sheltered by society.
It's both sad and hilarious
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>>380624672
because it's corrupt as shit
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>>380624304
>Plus, you had to choose between shitting on Shadows of Mordor, which was inevitably a good game, and shitting on the SJW cancer.
That's precisely my point. That's what I've been saying this entire thread. GamerGate wasn't about ethics in journalism, it was about fighting against SJWs.
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>>380624514
it's like an entire ideology based around failing in as cringeworthy a way as possible
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>>380623997
>we're talking about corruption industry.
sounds like we're #gamergate again
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>>380624885
good
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>>380615403
Glad to see Milk-shake duck is succeeding.
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>>380624514
What's your point? Them being a loud minority does not make them have any less rights to try to boycott something.
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>>380624802
This, for fuck's sake.
How can anyone unironically defend "gaming journalism" at this point?
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>>380624885
GG isn't about industry corruption it's about hating women you fucking fuck
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>>380624034
So you're saying you'd only do it for the money and you'd be willing to sell out your principles for it?

How about you go and make a video game blog that's about the truth, and nothing but the truth. I hear there's great demand for it because apparently all the existing gaming sites pander only to a niche clique of San Fran hipsters. Oh, but remember, just the facts. No opinions. Otherwise it's an unfair and unethical use of your platform.
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>>380624659
Breitbart's choice of stories was always dependent upon the editor. It never had any consistency, except that it was only right-leaning
>shapiro in charge, everything is anti-semitic
>milo in charge, everything about milo's tours and escapades
I have no idea what it's like now. I stopped reading once I realized it was pushing everything Milo
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>>380624808
Getting SJWs out of game journalism is ethical. Look what they did to comics. Preventing them from getting into gaming is of utmost priority.
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>>380625018
Hi, Zoe
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>>380624675
"Felix" is a developer of games. Are developer of games not allowed to speak as consumers nowadays?
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>>380624982
>this guy again
don't you get this shit deleted again, I tried to warn you.
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>>380613992
Discrimination is okay as long as it's against people I don't like.
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>>380621556
To promote this game, unironically.
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>>380625151
>gamedev
no she isn't, she's PR and literally on the board of femfreq.
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>>380624792
Just sounds like he's getting boycotted by leftists who care a lot about politics in their video games, similar to how GamerGate boycotted sites they disagreed with.
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>>380625151
Wait, do you seriously not know the difference between a manufacturer and a consumer?
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>>380624698
Doesn't sound very free to me, commie.

Anyway is she utilising her firm or is she giving her personal opinion? Wouldn't you rather that she's able to express a personal opinion rather than being forced to hide it? If her PR company shits on the game, now you'll at least have a context for it. Otherwise you wouldn't know.
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>>380624514
It's a lesson they should learned from the 2016 election. No matter how much liberal media tries to control the narrative what matters is what the public believes. And they can see through bullshit that the media want to serve to them precisely because of how painfully hard the media pushes it on them. Not to mention their methods of ostracizing people that don't agree with them and closing communication between different viewpoints just pushes people away from them faster. And by no means am I saying that there aren't people on the right that do the same. I'm just saying the MSM being predominantly on the left makes them doing it much more noticeable.
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communism should be outlawed
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>>380625006

Next time try reading the thing you're quoting before you're quoting it. Pay attention to the last 2 sentences.
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>>380625081
SJWs would disagree with that assessment for obvious reasons.
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>>380625295
Must've missed when GamerGate hijacked an entire industry and acted as gatekeepers against people who agreed with them.

You know. Because that didn't happen
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>tfw we will never heard about this game again in the next months and when it will be released it will be Mighty No. 9 all over again
>mfw all this defend and attack shitstorm over this game just for the next blunder of the century
HAVE FUN BEING RETARDED ON TWITTER, FUCKERS!!!
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>>380625006
Sure.

What the industry needs to realize is that they're not buying their products either way.

Because places like /v/ are far too silent on these issues.

Example
>SJWs bitch about something
>developers change that something
>sales don't change, or decrease

>/v/ (if they ever actually did) bitch to developers about something
>developers change it
>BASED DEVS SALES THROUGH THE ROOF!!!!

I mean, the first time /v/ ever organized around anything was GG, and years after everyone stopped trying, it's STILL a boogeyman for SJWs.
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>>380613658
>We were always at war with Eurasia

That's fucking wrong you idiot. We are at war with East Asia. It's ALWAYS been that way.

the part in the book where a celebration is held and a mob of people switch their stance literally within a minute between eurasia/east asia is fucking horrifying because the cognitive dissonance that these lefties have reminds me of that scene in the book.
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>>380625321
Do you not understand that game developers can be game consumers at the same time?
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>>380625440
They also disagree with basic biology
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>>380624698
Are you saying that the CEO of Coca Cola shouldn't be allowed to say Pepsi tastes like shit?
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>>380624039
The five guys group predates Zoe Qinn's shitstorn.
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>>380625440
No one gives a shit. Look what SJWs have done whereever they have gone. University of Missouri, comics, cartoons, Evergreen State University... wherever SJWs take over, every ounce of creativity, talent, and skill gets pushed out and replaced with DI VER SI TY

At this point, I'm willing to say anything with diversity is going to be bad on the cusp of it.
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>>380625472
They aren't very effective gatekeepers, since so many games that go against SJWs keep being released.
Example: Hatred
Example: Kingdom Deliverance or whatever it's called

>>380625531
I'm all for that
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>>380625553
No, no, they can't. That's like saying Ford is a consumer of cars.
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>>380623787
>>380622452
>>380621756
Diane Neal was the best assistant district attorney, prove me wrong
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>>380625352

She is a spokesperson of her own PR firm promoting indie games. And its very worrying that an industry insider such as herself (who used to have IGF creator inside of her at some point) calls for blacklisting other indie games and companies.

Imagine this happening with car-industry, or drink industry. Pepsi tries to topple down Coca-cola by having their PR firm try to spread bullshit about Coca-Cola staff being misogynists. That shit would go down to court immediatly.
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>>380624039
>dense
>Not knowing about the Watergate 5
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>>380625081
>Ethical means doing what I want
Classic gamergate
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>>380625723
Hatred almost got shut down. If it wasn't for Gabe Newell himself, it would've died.
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>>380610346
what is milkshake duch?
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>>380624794
>modern feminism
>implying paleo-feminism was good in any way shape or form
If the western economy were a person, it would shake your hand for endorsing the doubling its labor supply so women could divorce their husbands while they go fuck tyrone on the side.
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>>380624039
What is watergate nigger?
I know you think the joke was a goober gobble reference because your head is too jammed up a smelly cunt.
but it is actually a reference to Watergate you dumb fuck.
I know it is a tough concept to wrap your head around when you spend the entirety of your existence thinking, "The universe revolves around myself" the BIG BAD PATRIARCHY is out to get you.
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>>380625073
I never read Brietbart with any consistency, I just know it's as much a boogeyman to radical leftists as GG is. God forbid any non-MAN narrative was given exposure.
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>>380625723
Hatred actually got pulled from Steam until fucking GabeN himself stepped in and reversed the decision, launching an investigation as to how they could have happened.

SJWs are that fucking sneaky.

"It's not censorship though cause he could have sold it on itch.io :^)" --SJW apologists
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>>380625703
You may be right, but that still doesn't and shouldn't take away their rights to express their opinions and have their boycotts.
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>>380621573
>Gamer Culture
I hate this. Let's just for argument sake go with the Gamer thing. Does /v/ have gamers? Does neogaf have gamers? Does tumblr have gamers? Do you think they're in any way an overlapping "culture"? No, each site is not driven by "gamer culture", but by site culture, 4chan has it's own culture, tumblr its own, and so forth. That culture is then applied to precieve games they consume. We have a unified experience, not a unified culture. It's no more "gamer" culture, than saying France, Japan, and USA are "nation" cultures. It's a stupid simplification, born from marketing, and should rot.

This doesn't even detail the innate "culture" that springs up in various pockets within gaming either, you think jrpg fans behave/think/value the same as arena shooter fans? Xbox vs PlayStation vs Nintendo fans? You think the disparate game series fans on /v/ behave similar? Lock Prime and Super fans in a room and see what happens. Better yet lock FF fans in a room, if you want real "culture" blood bath.
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>>380625617

I'm saying CEO of Coca Cola is not allowed to try and paint the CEO of Pepsi as some woman-hating rapist. Do you really have a reading comprehension issues or are you just willfully retarded?
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>>380625723
You named two, niche, games. Meanwhile the bulk of game devs still push SJW narrative and block indie devs who go against it.

Or, are you willfully forgetting that we have a WW@ game with Nazis in it with no swastikas because someone might get "triggered"
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>>380625827
>>380625896
>SJWs are gatekeepers
>They tried to get a game shut down and failed
Mighty great gatekeepers here
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>>380623360
Like this one? kek
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>>380625786
Yeah well maybe the DEV of this game should've kept his fucking mouth shut in the first place then, as an industry insider, you know? But instead he got on board with gamergate and slandering a bunch of devs and journos. He's not getting anything worse than what he himself supported.
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>>380625472
>You know. Because that didn't happen

It literally didn't.

The same shitty journalists are in place, but now everyone knows they're not worth the clicks.
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>>380625081
Just play Japanese games lol.
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>>380626035
I don't want to think how many games got killed before announcement because of this shit. We'll never know, and it's very sad. Like I said, I try not to think about it.
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>>380626035
It literally took the intervention of Gabe Newell to save the game. They DID get it shut down. Until based Gabe stepped in.

Then there's also DoA3, GTAV in Australia, etc etc
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>>380625617
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation
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>>380625018
Uh where exactly does he imply he hates woman?
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>>380625472
No, they just wish it had. Being a failure doesn't absolve you.
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>>380626035

Just because they failed, doesn't mean they didn't try to be. They certainly think they themselves are prestigious gatekeepers that everyone listens and worships. Makes their failures all the more hilarious.
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>>380626004
>with no swastikas because someone might get "triggered"
is this a real thing?
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>>380610683
>I would urge [people] to make sure they align themselves only with people who share [their] dreams
Isn't that pretty much the definition of an echo chamber?
Isn't that what both sides of the spectrum are doing, just by their own definitions of "see the world grow and progress"?
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>>380626184
it's a meme
>>
No one in this thread seems to be accounting for how much media exposure matters to the success of a movie, game, or any form of art.

And who owns the media? Would those people have an agenda to push that would make it easier for them to make money? Hmmm. Idk.
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>>380619992
Missing the "Five guys" reference
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>>380623552
Okay, how's this.
The ones who are only consumers get to bitch, the ones who are pr-people shut up and cover the issue without qualifying it based on their political views?
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>>380625541
Oh wow, your political opponents remind you of nineteen eighty four? You don't fucking say. Wowie. Such insight.
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>>380625976
Yes, he is. And the CEO of Pepsi is allowed to sue for defamation
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>>380616686
They know why the russians hacked the election.
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>>380626231
COD: WW2 all the swastikas are now Iron Crosses
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>>380625976
If the CEO of Pepsi is a woman hating rapist, is the CEO of Coca Cola not allowed to have an opinion on it?
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>>380626231
showing the fylfot in Weimar Germany 2.0 is illegal. Games with the windmill of friendship have to either be edited for them or they can't get them.
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>>380626035
It took the literal Steam Fuhrer himself to get the game released after SJW harassment.
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>>380625774
Who was the one that blew a case because she showed up to court drunk?
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>>380625957
I semi-agree, but I think it goes further than that. It's not even site culture. People adopt the culture temporarily while AT those sites, and then act differently depending on the situation. The idea that there is genuinity behind any of it is stupid.
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>>380626331
I don't think that makes sense. Game developers and PR people should be able to talk about whichever games they want for whatever reason. If you're saying that the french dude is getting defamed, then that's an entirely different subject.
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>>380625810
>visit doctor
>"oh hey you have cancer it would be ethical to just leave it there"

classic lefturd. 8 years bitch
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>>380626375
>people in the games industry should be allowed to defame people with political rhetoric
this is industry is so fucked because of people like you.
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>>380626375

> And the CEO of Pepsi is allowed to sue for defamation

Which means Coca-Cola is effectively not really allowed to say it out loud, you cheeky shit.
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>>380626375
If you do something illegal, it generally means you are not allowed to do that, autist.
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>>380626004
It's easier that way if you want to sell your shit in Germany
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>>380626491
Not if he wants to keep his job or be sued into oblivion
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>>380626326
>>380625795
>Dense
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>>380626674
he could work in the game industry, it's totally cool here.
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>>380626004
If they push SJW shit, it's either because they think that SJW shit will sell, or because they are SJWs themselves and making products that align with their views. What's wrong with either of those? (Even if they're incorrect)
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>>380626249
No, because /v/ loves seeing SJW shit come out to shit all over it.

/v/ has never tried to shut down a developer by going over their head for being a cuckold.
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>>380626418
>rusians are to normies what GG is to femminists

Kek
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>>380626356
You think you're being cute but the communist revolution is happening again, right now. But on a global scale.

If only you knew how bad things truly are.
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>>380626674
I don't think that's true.
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>>380626587
>>380626593
>>380626661
If you're arguing that "Felix" is lying and defaming the French dude, then I don't see why she would be immune to a defamation lawsuit.
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>>380610683

> we are marginalized and don't have power
> we only have some special space magic that allow us to collectivize and vet who we want or don't want producing conduct we agree or disagree with.
> we don't have power.
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>>380626856
How do we stop them?
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>>380626491
If you can prove your claims it´s not defamation, if it´s just some wacko opinion, like many feminists and SJWs have with people in the gaming industry, then you can sue
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>>380626575
Your posts are really unethical

by which I mean shit
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>>380626812
1. SJW shit never sells
2. Nothing as long as they aren't actively blocking or attacking people making products that show a different view or have a different opinion. Which is the exact opposite of what SJWs do.
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>>380626561
>for whatever reason
Okay, game x is good and you should buy it, I'm a journalist.
What do you mean x was made by my brother so it's corrupt shit for me to promote it? Misogyny!

There are valid and non-valid reasons to evaluate or ignore a product, as a product-covering journalist.

The fact that it was made by your family lands on the "shitty , unacceptable reasons".
And so does "maker doesn't agree with my views".
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>>380626961
go to neogaf for really good posts my bernout friend! you'll love it there!
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>>380626587
If someone making mention of your politics is "defamation" you might want to reconsider your politics.
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>>380626249
>Isn't that what both sides of the spectrum are doing, just by their own definitions of "see the world grow and progress"?

/v/ has never tried to get Battleborn banned from being sold, despite the game being everything wrong with modern gaming industry all in one package.

"I'm not buying it and I'm going to laugh when it fails" is not the same thing as "This game is misogynist and if you buy it you're a bad person just like the developers!"
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>>380626858
You don't have to think it's true for it to be true
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>>380626995
>Them blocking or attacking people making products that show a different view or have a different opinion
But there's nothing illegal about sharing your opinion or boycotting people you disagree with. Again, this is also what a part of GamerGate did.
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>>380626946
a stiff breeze should suffice
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>>380626856
Fuckin' excellent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8EMx7Y16Vo
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>>380627028
Unacceptable and shitty to who? To you? Does everyone agree with your assessment?
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>>380626927
I lost the thread of the conversation, but my opinion is that if you say hard opinions as fact and do something to purposley harm someone, you can sue for defamation. Considering how outrageous the claims are from whoever is doing the boycott, I suppose you could sue. But getting behind that is another PR nightmare.
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>>380626995
I'm not sure why SJWs keep trying to pull this "Non-SJWs are just as bad!" bullshit.

They never are.

SJWism is a destructively pathological mental disorder that applies to them, and only to them.
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>>380626954
Right, so there is in fact nothing wrong with stating that the dev of The Last Night publicly supported gamergate, and indeed only a matter of opinion whether such a statement could ever be considered defamatory at all.
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>>380625591

This is a really important point.

SJWs are now becoming social constructionists. They completely dispense with hard science like biology because it conflicts with their marxist ideology

If gender is a social construct, why do trans people take hormones?
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>>380627112
>>380626249
The difference is that Battleborn failed on its own, even with a vocal minority's support. The product was released and spoke for itself. Not because groups of people proclaiming tolerance tried to destroy it.

Vote with your wallet in action, ironically.
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>>380627372
Well, it´s more about people calling him a sexist pig who hates women. You sure know how to manipulate the wording tumblr.
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>>380627178
ANTI TWO SCOOP MARCH
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Wait, I can play an awesome looking game and trigger ((((feminists)))) even more? Where the fuck do I preorder?
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>tfw no one mentions libel at all

Stop acting like both sides are arguing in good faith. One side wants to conquer and the other side is resisting. The conquerors are willing to say anything to gain ground. The resistance is willing to do anything to hold ground.

This is what happens when you remove all sense of formality in a discourse and replace it with "freedom of expression."
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>>380627173

>But there's nothing illegal about sharing your opinion or boycotting people you disagree with.

There is in this case. Legobutts has a PR company shilling for indie games. So Legobutts is trying to blacklist a competing game. Only reason she isn't sued to oblivion right now is Microsoft wants to keep the game's launch as drama-free as possible, and her company is small fries so they wouldn't get much out of a costly lawsuit anyway.

So in a way Legobutts has to thank the fact the poll turned out that nobody cared about her complaints. Because if the poll turned otherwise and people said they wouldn't buy the game thanks to Legobutts' tweets, Microsoft has great interest in suing the fuck out of her, Indiecade and IGF which are associated with her company.
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>>380627173
No, but going out and spinning the narrative that a developer is hateful is illegal, especially if they can prove that it damaged their income.

Colluding within an industry to blackball someone because you disagree with them is also illegal.

Outright lying to slander someone is also illegal, additionally so if you're trying to block that person from earning a wage.

All three things are the SJW MO. You're confusing "boycott" with an active campaign to damage someone's way of life.
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>>380627313
Does everyone need to agree with my opinion for me and other sharing my opinion to discuss and try to spread our opinions?
This is what's happening here. GG was mostly the same in here too.
That and finding out who got bribed with ugly selfies.
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>>380627520
Groups of people proclaiming tolerance and trying to get something to fail because they dislike the creator's politics and trying to make others aware of the same thing so that they also don't buy it is also part of voting with your wallet.
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>>380627526
That's implied by supporting gamergate
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>>380627703
nice b8
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>>380627391
Sex ≠ gender
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>>380627391
>SJWs are now becoming social constructionists.

Social constructivists is literally what SJWs used to be called about two decades ago. It's the same Marxist/postmodernist bullshit under a different label.
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>we want politics to stay the fuck out of vidya!
>unless we like the politics :^)
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>457 replies and 114 posters
Oy vey, shut it down, we don't want annudah shoah, do we?
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>>380627803
>>>>>>>>>>your Gender Studies course
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>>380627803
gr8 b8 m8
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>>380626946
At a "communist demonstration" in my hometown it was advertised that they were going to be 'armed to defend [themselves] from unjust police violence'

When I actually checked it out, they had airsoft rifles and machetes.
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>>380627853
>we want politics in video games!
>unless we disagree with the politics
Hmmmm
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>>380627659
>Does everyone need to agree with my opinion for me and other sharing my opinion to discuss and try to spread our opinions?
Of course not. And that's exactly what Neogaf and Felix and certain video games journalists against this game are doing, too.
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>>380627659
>Does everyone need to agree with my opinion for me and other sharing my opinion to discuss and try to spread our opinions?

When the opposing team is willing to involve themselves in propaganda campaigns led by large media apparatus that they've infiltrated and subverted, yes. Yes they do, because the mainstream viewpoint that gets drilled into everyone's skull will be the one that brings out the most people and crushes yours with a boycott.

THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT ARGUING IN GOOD FAITH. That is the point that matters. Their views are not legitimate to any sane person who hasn't been bombarded with "wrongthink is bad, wrongspeech is heresy, burn the heretic" propgaganda from the very media apparatus you seem to assume will not be used against the opposing viewpoint.
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>>380627853
Rightwingers arwnt injecting their propaganda into media, not demanding that developers do so.

Not being a far-left Marxist SJW cuck does not make one "right wing".
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>>380627853
Well, you need a coherent story in many videogames which inevitably will have some themes and politics. What I think it´s meant by that stament is that reviewers should be impartial.
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>>380627809

Yeah this type of radical authoritarian liberalism popped up around the 90's but it got pushed back down.

Now it's back with an absolute vengeance. University campuses today aren't about learning any more, they're just marxist training grounds.

Look at UofT, look at evergreen, look at McMasters. It's this bad already and it's only going to get worse.

Especially in Canada with stuff like bill C16 where they're putting social constructionism into LAW and it's going to be a hate crime if you accidentally mis-gender someone (and the genders are infinite)
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>>380628206
aren't*
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Remember comrades, if you see a liberal talking about videogames, playing videogames, or making videogames... REPORT IT to your nearest GG station.
These people do NOT belong in OUR hobby so report all liberal behavior on sight.

Stay strong, we are with you.
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>>380628198
The minute any of these SJWs start thinking for themselves they get shunned like a puritan. See: BAMN, Laci Greene, anyone with critical thinking skills.
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>>380628173

>Sharing opinions

>in Neogaf
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>>380628004
>>380628008
Who's dispensing with science now?
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>>380627540
its too late, the creator censored the game to please feminists
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>>380628380
Oh, I agree. Neogaf is a cancerous shit-hole that only allows certain opinions. Not that that's illegal either.
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>>380628352
Haha epic xd you got them gungagooks
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>>380628206
>Rightwingers arwnt injecting their propaganda into media
Except this game
>not demanding that developers do so.
Except every bloody game /v/ disagrees with

Or does it not count when you want games to reflect your worldview because it's not propaganda, it's just common sense?
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>>380628352
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/so%20report%20all%20liberal%20behavior/

I can just imagine your life post November 8th
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>>380628352
Yes goy, defending your turf is immoral. After all, the turf was never yours in the first place.
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>>380628394
>Social "sciences"
>Actual science

Pick one
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>>380628352
>REPORT IT to your nearest GG station.
where is that? reddit?
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>>380628545
>except this game
>makes no indications to any game

hmmmm really makes you think
>>
To this day its still fun to watch the world burn
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>>380628545
>Except this game
>being a soft lefty is being a right winger

KEK he's a fuckin hipster dork frog who cucked and bowed down like a faggot immediately upon conflict and you think he's right wind XD
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>>380628740
The game this thread is about. Pay some attention.
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>>380628679
Literally yes
GG is literally, not "literally", but LITERALLY a reddit movement. It fucking kills faGGots to admit it, but they all know it's true. They aren't welcome here and their 8gag died, so reddit is where all GG activity is based.
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>>380628956
>when he's already had to censor the "universal basic income" portion of the steam description

he is not putting any right wing "propaganda" in his game, retard
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>>380629002
ugh cant believe /v/ supports this
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>>380610683
is this guy a literal faggot
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>>380629002
>still angry GG won

kiss my free American ass you left wing invalid parasite
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>>380629212
how did GG win if this GG supporter had to censor his game?
>>
>>380629002
>>380629176
Being this mad
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>>380629076
>had to censor
He didn't have to change anything
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>>380629321
There are people (including Zoe Quinn) that believe that GamerGate is responsible for Trump's presidency
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>>380629321
Because Trump is the first Gamergate President who ran his campaign with Gamergate style tactics

Stay mad loser!
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>>380629076
Or he's just sneaking it past the censors
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>>380610683
I want SJWs and cultural marxists to be forcibly removed.
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>>380629002
But /v/ is reddit too
>>
The Frenchie apologized for GamerGate and said that he isn't regressive.

I'm confused. Is he still /ourguy/ or not?
>>
>>380626593
If what he says is true then he's allowed. If he is lying or misrepresenting to hurt someone's reputation he will be punished. Do you not know defamation works?
>>
>>380629473
>>380629505
>when the whole game has been reworked and the story is now "Evil Johnald Mumps is oppressing wymyn of color and you must save them from his dytopian Right Wing hell on Earth!!"
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>>380629002
Gosh just look at all that videogame discussion
>>
>>380629608
>Neofags hate him because he's a "sexist" who supported gamergate
>/pol/tards hate him because he's a "cuck" who apologized
>Game looks good
That's three great reasons to support him. He's definitely /ourguy/
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>>380629858
but we're /pol/??
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>>380629858
>Game looks good
Based on what? It looks like a 2D walking sim.
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>>380610683
This is so embarrassing.
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>>380628545

It's not a "right-wing game", any more than hating Communists makes you a Nazi, from what I can tell by the description.

Leftist fascism is a very real thing, and being opposed to it makes you a normal human being, not "right-wing".
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>>380630274
some people still seem to think being /pol/ and /v/ are mutually exclusive.
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>>380630307
Christ, he's such a damn scumbag.
>>
>>380616803
>hurr durr just let people get away with doing morally wrong things
I wonder (((who))) was behind this post
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>>380630386
>Leftist fascism is a very real thing, and being opposed to it makes you a normal human being, not "right-wing".
says the dimwit who has no clue what fascism actually is and just uses it as a buzzword to replace authoritarianism and/or totalitarianism

we gonna have another "stalin was a fascist!" thread? Were commies the real nazis? We gonna go down that path of doublethink again?
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>>380629594
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>>380630769
the state of /co/fags
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>>380630702
>Stalin wasn't a fascist who killed more people, including his own, than Nazis ever did
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>>380630307
I'm always happy to shit on Dobson but there's nothing unreasonable here.
Can you REALLY shit on him for this comment when /v/ still shitposts using the same ancient shitty tweets from everyone they dislike?
Also doesn't GG constantly try unearth everything Zoe Quinn ever said online no matter how old in a desperate attempt to make everyone believe she's a horrible person when nobody fucking cares about forum posts from 2002
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>>380630286
Beautiful visuals and interesting plot.

If the gameplay is even half as good as the other two, it will be 10/10.
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>>380620851
Watch out or the GamerGate will get you
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>>380628173
Journalists cover, they don't qualify.
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>>380630904
Difference is 4chan knows they are scumbags. Dobson was a hypocrite. That's the difference.
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>>380630769
it's like watching one of those fake documentaries where they get a bunch of actors and pretend a white guy used to be a WHITE SUPREMACIST BABY KILLING NAZI GENOCIDAL MANIAC and now is happily married to a negress with 4 mulatto children.

the word cringe is not strong enough to describe it.
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>>380630702

Ah so over 100 million people dying in the soviet union due to purges, war & famine was totally ok because communism is ok?
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>>380630307
>Son on Dob

That's it.

Is there any way to pre-order this?

I have never preordered a game in my life but this fucking does it.
>>
>>380630678
I bet you personally put a lot of effort in to stop people taking part in pile-ons or harassment during your noble GG days, right Anon? After all, you are a good guy who wants to stop people doing morally wrong things.
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>>380630959
I'm not a woman working in video games though, think I'm pretty safe
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