Final Fantasy XIV

>>380578530
Main Expansion - 9/10
3.1-3.5 - 7.5/10

>>380578530
6/10

nothing special

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>>380578530
pretty gud/10

I just today got to the final quest of the base game, and I've owned HW since launch. I've been on such a kick that this maintenance is really pissing me off

>>380578530
Wasn't thrilled with alexander at all. Hopefully omega doesn't suck.

What this about equipping your str gear before the maint?
I was doing something else when it hit

>>380578530
As a DRG main going into Heavensward, I liked it quite a lot. Especially that scene of walking up to Nidhogg echoing the launch movie.

Any idea when the preload is going to be up? 60 fucking gigs holy shit

Good riddance. I wont miss HW. Its a shame that I'll be around 2 hours late for SB because of work and I have to download the game.

>>380579070

Retards thinking that they'll be able to cheese the accessory restrictions by role by having them equipped before servers go down. As if the devs wouldn't think of that and have a work-around in place.

>>380578530

Felt bad for my BRD friend going in, but he found a new home on MNK so it wasn't too bad. Had a fun as fuck time with AST even before they made it way too fucking strong.

Significantly less hyped for SB though. Yes I'm a WHM main.

>>380578530
10/10
First good mmo expack since bc

why arent they telling us when the preload starts?
what the fuck is this shit.

>>380579428
were you there for 3.0 to 3.1? you're high

>>380579547

They never do. You just keep trying until it works.

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it was good

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8/10. would've been higher but they fucked up class balance, some raid designs were lackluster. overall a good first expansion. i expect it'll only go down from here on out though.

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>>380578530

>Shit, I need to finish the story
>Get to the Baelsar wall 30 mins before today's maint.
>My ilvl is 233, BARELY there
>Get a bit shit on by a DPS
>The healer was a true motherfucker, I lamost died a LOT but never got killed by the bosses
>10 mins left
>Manage to kill fucking Griffin on first try
>1 min. after the mtn. time
>The hype was off the charts
>Get the FUCK outta there
>Literally like 30 secs later maintenance starts

Jesus fuck, hypest moment so far, my heart is still fucking racing and I need some sleep, that shit put me and that healer to a real nigga test, wherever you are, I salute you, and sorry because you left so quickly I couldn't even commendate you.

>>380579682
I miss that glorious fucker

>>380579852

Was the tank btw.

4/7
good when there was stuff to do
bad when idling in idleshire

didn't like the eastern european theme

It was slightly above average, i miss 2.0 though when crystal tower was the shit

>>380579335
but...what is the point

>>380579335
>As if the devs wouldn't think of that
Man oh man, I don't know how long you've been playing XIV, but I can assure you that thinking ahead code-wise is not something this dev team is known for.

>>380579547
SE is also really shitty about things like this. If we're lucky patching will start about halfway into the maintenance. Shit still feels bad though, takes me three hours to download 1GB so I'm all but guaranteed to be be late getting in.
Watch the patch notes not show up until an hour before go time.

>>380579158
Basically this feeling.
It was hype as all fuck going in as a DRG main since Estinien was a lovable asshole you knew before hand and the job quest was not even the job quest for you the MSQ was your job quest.

looks like im not sleeping for a week again

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>>380579942
>French elves and Celtic dragon ruins
>eastern European

>>380579852
I envy you. I wanted to finish the MSQ before launch so bad.

How long did it take you after finishing 3.0?

>>380579970

Tanks won't be able to equip STR accessories any more. And the min-maxing babbies are mad about it so they're going to try to cheese things by having them equipped before SB hits.

They'd replace those shitty accessories by 70 anyway so it's more of a principle thing than something that actually makes sense.

>>380580082
shit was romanian as fuck disregard the tall pale creatures

5/10

>>380580097
ohhh right. Sorry I'm slow.
I haven't been keeping up all to much. At least I got black mage to 55 before the servers shut down today.

>>380580086

Not really sure since I did it very gradually, last time I played (just ressubed a week ago or so) was in December 2016 and had done up to Nidhogg, just today I marathoned the story up to baelsar's wall (last dungeon in HW) since I spent the other days getting my item level the fuck up, barely made it, I still have like 5 MSQ to go but they're trivial in comparison.

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;_;

>>380580067

Surely something so simple as "make all the gear with STR as a primary stat not equippable by tanks, and if they have it equipped, automatically unequip it/zero out its stats" can be within the realm of possibility for a team taking care of one of the biggest MMOs on the market. Surely.

>>380578530
Really weak, like 4/10 when the actual updates started rolling out. Every update invalidated the previous one as far as gear and ilvls went, and it still clung to ARR's less than stellar treadmill ideas, now condensed due to FFXV needing money and manpower.

The fact remains that it did a horrible job engaging players and keeping them around compared to ARR, and the 3.1 wait and payoff has been mentioned many a times now. SB can only go up in comparison to how they botched HW's content beyond the storyline aspect of the MSQ, since HW really set the bar low for XIV expansions.

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>>380580086
dude just buy a msq booster pack

>>380580284
4/10

>>380579970
Idiots think that having 1/2 HP pool of a normal tank and doing a bit more dps will be viable.

it's up

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/50c65a5ac10627bd169e2d5638b5ecc7677a55bf

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Goodbye, HW. I really loved it, I hope SB is anywhere as good.

>>380579335
>Retards thinking that they'll be able to cheese the accessory restrictions by role by having them equipped before servers go down
You would be right but shitters are talking about STR accessories specifically. The implication is that extra strength, direct hit and other DPS stats will give them an extra edge in next savage tier and get the best parses
Them being shitters they of course ignore that we dont know the AP formula yet, that we won't get savage for a month, that ilvl would be far ahead of 270 by that point and that parses don't fucking matter and most important for tanks is survivability not damage

>>380580373
>idiots
>plural
It's literally one retard who still advocates classes over jobs.

>>380578530
good start, decent mid, shit finish

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TEN
FIRE
IV

Please help I need sleep

>>380580363
>paying to not play the game

Why would I do that?

>>380580363
Jesus fuck, what is the point?

I mean, it could come in handy, though

>>380580284
>dont really care about him the whole of ARR
>kinda funny scenes but mostly just forgot who he was
>beginning 3.0
>takes us into his house
>gives everything he can for us
>including his life
o7

>>380578938
>not loving Brute Justice
>not being surprised by ACTIVE TIME MANEUVER
>not smiling when time actually stops in 12, right on down to your buff timers stopping

>>380580474
The chinese had it so it was only a matter of time until we got it too.

I think it's fucking stupid. A bandaid fix to a bigger problem: half the fucking game is locked behind the MSQ.

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>>380580497
WHY'D IT HAVE TO BE THIS WAY

>>380580418

It's almost as cringe as "gamer fuel". It's still a little too bland to be full-on cringe though. Not enough green and black and mis-used slang.

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>>380580461
the me me me generation

>>380580474
idk man but bruh it sure does come in handy

Dungeons are better, story is better, raids are better, all the outdoor areas are fucking shit and need to die in a fire

7/10

>>380580505
Brute Justice blows the shit out of everything else in the game except Ozma

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>serves go back up at 5am EST
>that's 12 noon in my time zone
>can still sleep in, eat a good breakfast, and relax a bit before hopping on
>have the next two days off of work then only work two more days before another 3-day weekend

The stars aligned perfectly for me for once.

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It was alright.

>>380580557
>b-b-but go back to wow
>2.0 > 2.5 is great!!!!!

didn't get good until like 3.2, was pretty good afterward
8/10 "it's ok"

>>380580607
>Not getting honey buns, papa john's, dr. pepper, and carl's jr to prep for SB launch

What are you, a casusal?!

>>380580461
>>380580474
I assume the whole point of those is to use it on alts if for some reason you want to grind even more and think the weekly caps are too low. The Job boost ones actually make sense, because leveling in this game is cancer.

>>380580557

Worst part is that it's hidden in a paywall, don't get me wrong, I like the story but imagine wanting to be a samurai and finding out there's like 100 hours of content to do AND THEN level the samurai to be able to actually use it in raids and shit.

I got a friend who could use this, though, since the fucker was playing on PS3 but did some stupid shit when he moved to PC but his character wasn't there, so he had to contact SE that is, if he doesn't want to start from scratch, but if he does, then this is a somewhat viable option.

>>380580717
You only have to be level 50 to unlock sam/rdm though. It's actually not locked behind the MSQ, incredibly.

>>380580505
Neat mechanics, just shit difficulty.

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So are you guys playing RDM/SAM? Which one? What made you decide? How do you plan to level it to 60?

>>380578530
3.0 was good

3.1-3.3 was okay

3.4-3.5 was sloppy

>>380580557

It's genius for SE.

Want to jump in late, but want to play with your friends right away? No problem! You can catch right up by spending another $50!

A friend of mine is strongly considering doing this since he's getting sick of WoW and wants to play with people he knows. He gets a pass because we've played all kinds of vidya together for years, but newbies should not be allowed to buy this shit.

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Goodbye HW.

>>380580474
The point is the devs are too lazy to go back and remove the filler they put into the ARR patch storyline so they just made people pay to skip it.

>>380580762
>Brute Justice
>Shit difficulty

More like shit-on difficulty, you know?
And what is the deal with peanuts you get on the airplane? Who are they trying to keep out of those things, huh?

I only got half way through 3.2 story and will be jumping back in tomorrow after maintenance. How fucked am I when trying to unlock SAM and do SB content on my main class?

>>380578673
>How would you rate the expansion?
3.0 - 9/10
3.1 - 4/10
The rest - 7/10

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>barely 4 days of early access

>>380580425
>most important is survivability
well yeah ofc but it sounds like you've never gone for speedclears or anything post progression. the meta for tanks has always been to find a breakpoint for survivability and then max your damage

>>380580810
>tfw a few years from now the shield will be rusted through and barely recognizable.

>>380580497
This. He was a literal who for all of 2.0, then suddenly I started noticing him because he's the only person who gave a shit while all the faggots I did errands for fucked off back to their city-states. His speech in the quest where you bailed Alphi and Tataru was one of the most human things uttered by a character in the game

>>380580785
SAM
RDM looks fun but melee jobs tend to make for more fun in all those solo instances the MSQ throws you into
PotD with friends

>>380580836
You don't. You got the rest of the HW patches to work through first.

>>380580836
As been stated, you can unlock SAM right away. It's not locked behind the MSQ.

You will still have to level it from 50 though.

>>380580836

As long as you have a level 50 you can do it. SAM and RDM aren't in SB areas. You might have to catch SAM up to your current MSQ levels before you can progress though.

>>380580497
Thats how you get a player to like a character in a story that typically you're the one sacrificing everything for everyone else

You have an NPC sacrifice for you

>>380580858
What about it?

>>380580836
You'll be able to play SAM from the get go, at level 50. So you'll have about 8 hours of PotD to get back on track. You'll need to do story mode Nidhogg, and 3 mandatory dungeons to complete the MSQ to the start of SB.

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>>380580849
I can agree with that

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>>380580785

>What made you decide?

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'll be leveling with a friend that just started.

>>380580858

It's less "early access" and more "user-paid server stress testing". Especially for Aether since it has Greg and Balmung poised to bring it down as soon as everything goes live.

>>380578530
The Dragonsong War MSQ (3.0 - 3.3) was almost fully great. Just a few nagging little annoyances like the Sultana plotline and Moogle bullshit, but overall 9/10.

The endgame stuff was kind of hit and miss though. The content drought of 3.0 > 3.1, Gordias being overtuned as fuck, crafting and gathering just getting insanely more demanding along with getting their own special little weekly bullshit... It was on paper better than ARR's launch due to QoL stuff, but without the novelty of it being a new game and a new experience, it felt pretty fucking dry for a while, with the high point of 3.0 being Ravana Extreme.

Overall though, some fucking great Primals: Ravana, Thordan, Sophia, Nidhogg, Sephirot, Alexander past Gordias was more lively and interesting, and Weeping City/Dun Scaith were good. Overall 7.5/10, it kept my interest and developed some good stuff over the course of it. Take away those primals though and I'm not even sure I'd be back for Stormblood.

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>>380580923
i deserve more early play time for preordering

>>380580871
>the meta for tanks has always been to find a breakpoint for survivability and then max your damage
Yeah, and that meta is found out in rigorous testing, especially after new expansion just came out. You can't just hack it with ilvl 270 STR accessories

>>380580858
Does early access mean i can hit 70 and craft while everyone else is 60?

>>380580858
You act like early access is supposed to be treated like a closed beta.

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>Expansion launches
>People do content in a week

I honest to god, will never understand why people play MMOs. Shitty, repetitive gameplay, stale, same concepts used ten years ago, subscription fees 'the real game starts at level 50 xd'

Is it really just a massive horde of neets who are willing to suffer through all that shit to have pretend e-relationships? I can understand enjoying bad games and pretty much any genre, but MMO players have been playing the same shitty games for over a decade and paying stupid amounts of money to do so. I don't get it.

Will the graphic changes be noticeable when we come back?

WHO ELSE IS GOING TO STOCK UP ON HONEY BUNS FOR THE MEAL BOOST IN LEVELING AND IN REAL LIFE??

>>380580785
RDM, Palace. I'll probably see if any Levifriends in the threads closer to early access want to buddy up to burn through it.

>>380580557
>half the fucking game is locked behind the MSQ.
You mean like most games? Playing the story to progress is pretty standard.

The "problem", as I see it, is that most MMO players (including most of the ones here on /v/) are drooling retards who do not give a shit about their own enjoyment, only meaningless shit like progressing, "catching up" and getting bigger numbers. They see the story and leveling process as a barrier in the way of their goals, and not something that is to be enjoyed in itself, to the point where they will even pay to skip it.

But it's not like endgame is this amazing shangri-la of incredible content. It's basically the same shit except with lockouts and token grinding. You spend most of your time logged out or afk while waiting for queues. Yet people are DESPERATE to get there. They will do ANYTHING to get there, even if it means burning themselves out by blitzing through quests, and generally trying to skip the main meat of the game's playtime as fast as possible.

So basically, fuck them. I don't care about those people and if they have to pay 50 bucks to get the skip they want, then that's what they deserve.

>>380581051
Fuck you, I'll pick up one just to see what they're selling and then that's all.

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Who here SMN?
And scared for the future?

>>380580827
Oh shit, my bad. Brute was great difficulty and I loved the fight. I have a bad tendency to respond to the last thing I read and I was more referring to 11/12

>>380580785
RDM, looks fun. The tool that one redditor made to simulate the rotation seemed fun and it's flashy as hell which fits me to a T. will probably grind it out in potd

>>380581030

If you absolutely no-life it and optimize your leveling, yes. Most people who want to craft and make dosh were prepping these past few days though. A friend of mine did almost nothing but craft and hoard in preparation for SB.

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>>380581032
>week
mrhappy claimed he will rush to the end skipping every cutscene and speed runing every dungeon and geting ex primals done and farmed within 48 hours.

>>380580497
>ARR literally who
>HW literally who
>2 years of lamenting the death of some elf who looks like every other elf
>Literally who

>>380581131
>Who here SMN?
Not you
People who actually play/played SMN are confident about the changes

What server is everybody playing on?

Shiva reporting in.

>tfw potd for 6-8 hours tomorrow
man, I can't wait

>>380581154
i saved 6mil gil for the new housing so i'll probably wait at the entrance until it goes live

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>>380580661
Succubus minion is the best.

>>380581037
>graphic changes

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>>380580284
>MFW That final Nidhogg battle.
SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER.

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>>380581232
You right.

>>380581093
The problem is this is meant to be a multiplayer game. The MSQ is a long JRPG that is played mostly solo--you can only team up with others during dungeons and trials.

It is not typically very engaging, either. The most average MSQ quest involves walking from point A to point B, reading a couple lines of dialogue, and then returning to point A for more lines of dialogue. Occasionally, some weak enemies will spawn and you'll have to kill them.

If it was all optional, I'd be fine with it. But it isn't. You have to do all 150+ hours of it, in order to play the multiplayer parts of this multiplayer game.

>>380581131
Fuck SMN, I still don't know if I want to level up SCH first. I'm sure the healing will be good but dpsing is probably gonna be even more fucking boring now, and I'll barely contribute anything to dungeons so I might as well become a netflix healer

>>380580785
yeah ima level RDM

i will probably main it as well,i am currently a BLM, but i like the idea of being a caster that isnt a fucking turret

>>380581247
To be fair, with PS3 no longer supported, it's very possible graphical improvements can be made.

>>380580785
SAM, I had accessories from DRG and I wanted to try something new, So half the slots was filled the rest was me gearing up my 60 monk and the getting progression leveling gear from 50-60.

I'm gonna play RDM after I get Sam, Pld and Drg maxed. I have a 263 caster setup so I'm not so far behind.

When can you preload?

>>380581154
Craft and hoard what? I have a job so i don't plan to grind for my gil but i did want to get in while the getting good.

>>380580785
Samurai
I couldn't decide for some time between the two, and initially picked RDM because I thought they would be more complex of the two because at the time I though Samurai would be just another melee class like Dragoon, but after ability reveal I found out RDMs are really basic so switched to SAM

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>maint started
>still no prelim patch notes

>>380581217

Greg. FML.

If they offered free transfers off I'd take it. This server wasn't so awful when I joined back in 2.0. ;_; Where did it all go wrong?

>>380581316
When you've been on the far edge for long enough

>>380581194
Who's your favorite character and why?

>>380581316
Soon(tm).

>>380580982

>tfw Jenova

enjoy your max-pop servers retards

>>380581217
Cactuar

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>>380580505
>Brute Justice

>>380581340
Most likely won't be because of the E3 patch reading.

>>380580986
As has been said many times before, the state of Gordias was the devs throwing a tantrum over week one FCoB clears.

Will HWs endgame content die the moment SB goes live? I still want to do Triad EX and some savages.

>>380581230
Better get your camping supplies ready, they're not going to open up moonhousing for a couple weeks to make sure everyone has time to position themselves to get a house.

>>380581316
That's all I'm waiting to hit the bed.

I like Nero's attitude but why did he randomly show up and offer help again?

>>380581384
Yes.

>>380581384
Pretty much. You can only do the same shit for so long before even the most patient person stops.

>>380581398
Nero's entire motivation just seems to be to try and show up Cid.

>>380581384
It will go into Unsync Stomp Mode like all the ARR content.

>>380581316

Eventually. Try half-way through the maintenance. SE never announces when you're able to.

>>380581321

I didn't ask, but he mentioned food and pots. So I guess HQ shit for min-maxing autists who care about parsing high on new stuff?

>>380581184
And he's the same faggot that will sit there for hours before the patch just staring at his chat and the launcher waiting to get inside the game like a crack addict.

>>380581346
Can always take the free transfer to the new EU servers

>>380581391
i know where the entrance is

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>>380580785
Let's paint Eorzea red.

It's my favorite Final Fantasy job. I would have played it from launch, if it had been implemented then.

>>380581398
Have you done Crystal Tower questline

Also, Omega.

>>380581398
REASONS
i legit hope he's a proper ~good guy~ with an attitude. i know it's a trope done to death but compared against every other scion and major character it'd be a very welcome change

>>380581398
He might have been captured, I can't recall, but even if he just walked up,
A) Working with Allagan tech fascinates the shit out of him and
B) Proving that he's better than Cid is basically what he lives for

>>380581217
Midgardsormr, Reporting in.

>>380581384
>wanting to do outdated content
lol

>>380581032

I only play this because I do so with other 5 IRL friends, if I had no friends to play shit shit, I wouldn't even consider it, maybe just pay one month and do ARR quests just to day I cleared FFXIV since I like the series.

>>380581346
they've declared the congested and preferred servers for the free xfer

■North American Data Center
▼Preferred Worlds
○ Coeurl
○ Goblin
○ Mateus
○ Zalera

▼New Worlds
None

▼Standard Worlds
○ Adamantoise
○ Behemoth
○ Brynhildr
○ Cactuar
○ Diabolos
○ Excalibur
○ Exodus
○ Faerie
○ Famfrit
○ Hyperion
○ Jenova
○ Lamia
○ Leviathan
○ Malboro
○ Midgardsormr
○ Sargatanas
○ Siren
○ Ultros

▼Congested Worlds
× Balmung
× Gilgamesh

>>380581461

I actually get better ping on the EU servers now than the NA ones. Fuck me for living on the East Coast. If my buddy transfers for the same reason I sure as shit will follow him in a heartbeat.

>>380581384
It'll be added to WT

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>>380580505
>Start A8 normal
>It's just a shit mob that die quickly
>Suddenly the other robots we killed previously spawn too
>After we kill them they gather together
>Mfw GATTAI

I didn't really do anything except MSQ and crafting in HW. Might try some battle stuff this time

>>380581528
i still do coils so his question is valid

>>380581379
Right, and the tuning was thus a negative to the expansion and people's perception of it. I also think it would've done a lot better if it was more visually interesting, or even if the normal mode didn't exist (not to say I think the normal mode shouldn't exist, just that raiders wouldn't have done a mass exodus if it didn't). It was hard for a lot of raiders to muster up the shits to give this extremely punishing raid when it looked boring, generally wasn't that fun, and wasn't even getting you anything you hadn't seen before.

Midas offered another phase in A8 that wasn't in normal mode, and Creator Savage was generally just fun to play, sans A9S which was just sorta.. basically a Faust for the whole wing.

>>380581217
Exodus

>>380581032
It's something magical about that first week and playing with friends. That magic diminishes by the second week and is gone when you near the fourth week.

I've always liked to play MMOs competitive and race with people I know. There's nothing better in gaming when you're one of the first to hit max level and do content no one has seen. Most of the magic that comes with content is gone though thanks to gating.

>>380581369
What E3 patch reading?

>>380581203
This.

>>380581628
They are going to read the patch note in the Square enix stream

>>380581359
Kanny, Lyse, Rayo, Hilda, Yugiri, Gosetsu.
Penis, penis, penis, penis, penis, already more fun and expressive than anyone outside Hildy.

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>tfw missed last week's zhloe turnins

>>380581528
People like you deserve to be shot.

>>380580759
They said you would have to complete the main story up till Ultima Weapon though to unlock Stormblood jobs. So it's still a little story gated.

>>380581346
you're on a high population world, you will have be able to free transfer to any of the designated worlds

>>380581398
He had been researching Omega on his own, but knew that if he activated it both the Empire and the Eorzean Alliance would detect it and come push his shit in. Shinryu offered him an opportunity to actually turn it on and have the blessing and protection of one of the sides to do so.

>>380581456
Oh that makes sense why a friend asked me to cook him some shit this morning. I didn't think i could bank on hw stuff.

>>380581656
What time is this?

>>380581232
>>380581294

Anatomically correct.
My dick is erect.

>>380580505
>ACTIVE TIME MANEUVER
It's so stupid and I hate to see what they add to future raids if they get difficult at all.

>>380581217
Diabolos here.

Are they going to sell boost potions at the start of early access?

I dropped my SCH main job and started getting up MCH for Stormblood, but only got to 48 and I really don't feel like spending the first 5-10 hours of the expansion doing potd.

>>380580335
>one of the biggest MMOs on the market.
Not even top5

>>380581712
I'm not sure actually, probably around the same time as the live letter if I had to guess.

>>380581446
>Nero's entire motivation just seems to be to try and show up Cid
It's the best
A huge-ass empire-hating samurai shows up and all he talks about is how he can make a better kettle than Cid made

>>380581717
I wish there was more porn of her.

What are you guys doing to avoid MSQ spoilers? I'm gonna pretend my discord servers don't exist, stop visiting any xiv related places on the internet, don't look in PF (titles can contain spoilers), and turn off titles. Maybe turn off shout/yell for the occaisional (but very possible) AOE spoiler?

What else am I missing?

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>>380581032
I honest to god will never understand why your mother didn't abort you, Shitty, repetitive complaining on a mongolian seafood forum, stale, same manchild behavior from ten years ago, she has to pay for all your living fees,'he'll actually move out at 50 xd'

Is she really just a masochist who is willing to suffer through all that shit to pretend she doesn't want to fucking strangle her living, breathing mistake? I can understand putting up with raising a bratty child or pretty much any child, but your mom has been putting up with the same shitty manchild for over 3 decades and paying stupid amounts of money to do so. I don't get it.

>>380581659
I guess I should add Nero too. SB should be a lot better than HW because I far prefer the current travelling companions to Estinien and Fucboi. Iceheart was a pretty meh character all in as well, her NOBLE SACRIFICE didn't really resonate with me at all.

>>380581297
There is multiplayer stuff to do while participating in the MSQ though. The game even encourages you to do stuff besides the MSQ and find alternate forms of exp with stuff like sidequests, dungeons, fates, etc.

And the thing is, most people go into MMOs with the intention of playing for a long time. They don't want to be done in a week, a month, or even a year. Skipping the game to get to the part with the least amount of new stuff to do just seems counterproductive.

If people don't enjoy the story, then fine. I won't say it's amazing. But they're playing the wrong game. This is an RPG, and a Final Fantasy one at that. Story content is part and parcel for the series. There are shitloads of multiplayer games out there which don't have that element, so I don't know why you'd go out of your way to play one that does despite knowing it's not what you want.

>>380581748
Second highest subscribed MMORPG.

>>380581217
Balmung

>>380581217
Odin masterrace

>>380581792
WHAT!?

>>380581807
a pair of balls faggot

>>380581563
rip to the lil guys, overwhelmed by a tsunami of futa catgirls and failed tryhards

>>380581807

That's about all you can do, short of also setting yourself to busy if you're worried about dicks /telling you spoilers for some reason.

>>380581032
>but MMO players have been playing the same shitty games for over a decade and paying stupid amounts of money to do so. I don't get it.

Meanwhile we have game series like
Mario
Call of duty
Assassins creed
Battefield
street fighter
metal gear solid

oh look popular games that players have been playing the same shitty games for over a decade for paying stupid amounts of money.

You're an idiot to think it's just mmo's that have a blind gamer addiction. BEsides people spend far far more on moblie games nowadays. Cash shops rake in far more money for gameplay far shallower than any mmo.

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>>380581858
>He doesn't know

>>380578530
5/10

>Kill off all the good characters while under use a shit ton of others
>Gordias was a massive mistake and it took until Midas for them to realize they need to nerf mid-tier cycle when they fuck up
>2 dungeons per patch where half of them had forced single pull encounters
>Removal of Extreme Primals from the MSQ which caused the Warring Triad to feel like an afterthought
>Fun side content severely lacking, no new trials from Hildebrand's quests
>Constantly adding new Gold Saucer or side content but never updating it
>Diadem gear was nerfed 2 weeks after it was introduced killing the content until 3.55

And while unrelated to the dev team's shit, all of my friends from 2.0 somehow turned into massive elitists

>>380581807
I'm going to sit in the starting areas and shout out spoilers every fifteen minutes

>>380581659
>>380581659
Not that I mind most these characters, but it's telling that your reasons essentially don't have anything to do with those characters' motivations or actions why you don't like Haurchefant.

Which is fine, I ain't gonna tell you how to read words, or that liking characters based on their personalities and demeanor is less valid than the particular character everyone else has latched on to. I didn't like Ysayle's NOBLE SACRIFICE much either.

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Amazon still haven't given me my code.

wat do?

>>380581487
people dont even do that anymore

>>380581614
This is probably the saddest way to approach games that I've ever heard. The only enjoyment you get is from bumrushing it as fast as possible? Why would you even play MMOs, jesus.

>>380581826
not who you're replying to but people play games for different reasons. I, for example, play ff14 for the various fights, I hate going into new fights and people just start reciting what to do without even being asked, so I rush through everything so that doesn't happen.

Anyone knows when we can start updating the client?

>>380581872
Another useless /v/ post trying to be offensive, k
>>380581901
I didn't think of tells, thanks. Pretty unlikely of getting random tells but the odds increase with the number of assholes and the XIV community isn't full of saints.
>>380581954
You do you.

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>>380581902
Indeed. People pay hundreds of dollars to get a single character they want in mobile gachas.
The whales will literally spend a thousand or more.

>>380581929
>Removal of Extreme Primals from the MSQ
EX Primals were never a part of the MSQ, ever. They were always sidequest unlocks. Hard mode Primals were part of the MSQ until Thordan HM.

>>380581929
they started smoking marijuana i bet

>>380581728
From the devs' perspective, the big technical barrier and achievement of ACTIVE TIME MANEUVER was actually getting the camera to move and offer a cinematic attack like that, just like in Zurvan. It's cool in that sense. The button itself was pointless though.

>>380581813
>Raya-o
my negro

I hope the SB traveling companions are Gosetsu and Nero because fuck Alisaie

>>380581217
Odin.

May god help my soul

>>380581473
>i know where the entrance is

So will everyone else by the time they're ready to open it up.
The ward itself will be open from launch to run around in and explore.
It's just that nobody will be allowed to buy houses.

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>>380581954
mfw everyone reports your ass and a gm suspends you for a week

>>380581840
There only 2 subbased mmo anyway

>>380578530

bestMMOI'veeverplayed/10

>>380581217
Balmung

>>380581217

Ultrash.

So when are they going to implement these?
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/2e42602e592e3120d54cee8f78bb881c4948f8ab

>>380581981
Buy from SE store in the future. You can instantly pay it off too.

>>380581217
Sargatanas

>>380582083
>The ward itself will be open from launch to run around in and explore.
>It's just that nobody will be allowed to buy houses.
thats bullshit but i believe it fuck you yoshi

>>380581954
jokes on you, i logged out next to where the RDM trainer will spawn ;)

>>380581954
>and shout out spoilers every fifteen minutes
I bet there will be title like "potato fucking dies faggots" again

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>>380581763
The live letter was on tuesday, it's been.
Unless this is a different live letter.

>>380582037
You had to the MSQ to get the Extreme version because the original fight was part of the story.

>>380581217
Ragnarok

We know we're going to travel a lot again. We're certainly going to have NPCs in tow while we go too.

Who do you want to journey with this time, /v/?

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>>380581858

>>380582156
People are speculating it will the be 4.0 capped tome gear along with the Tank contest winner.

>>380581340
There's no preliminary notes, there's only going to be the full notes.

>>380582207
Yes, but the way you worded it implied that EX Primals themselves were part of the MSQ, which is untrue.

>>380581217
Cactuar, hopin Aether doesn't get fucked by our population come Friday. Fuck Balmung and Gilgamesh.

>>380578530
this game feels like an always online single player game

its hardly an mmo, guildwars did this better

>>380581807
Turning off local chat
Turning of Titles because Koji is a hack
Doing content faster than my friends

>>380582156

never, hopefully

>>380582228
i dont really care who we're stuck with its not like they ever wear lewd clothes or you can fuck them irl

>>380581563
hope this keeps balmungs rp's from taking over new eu server the baguettes are enough without that shite as well

>>380581217
Goblin

>>380581712
>Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 02:00 a.m. (PDT): All Worlds Maintenance (24 Hours)
>Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 9:00 p.m. (PDT): Stormblood patch note reading
>Friday, June 16, 2017 at 2:00 a.m. (PDT): Early access begins
>Friday, June 16, 2017: PlayStation®3 service ends
>Tuesday, June 20, 2017: FINAL FANTASY XIV: Stormblood launches
>Tuesday, June 20, 2017: Pre-order in-game items distribution begins
>Tuesday, June 20, 2017: Full game registration codes can be redeemed
>Friday, June 23, 2017 at 11:59 p.m. (Per Region): Early access ends
5 hours before release
Only 5 hours to shitpost about it!

>>380581960
I was mostly joking, but it's hard to get attached to anyone in FF14 because the game engine is FUCKING HORRIBLE for presenting anything other than MMO gameplay. Every single cutscene is the same. Every single one has the same fucking nod, draw weapon, sheathe weapon, shot reverse shot talking heads where you read literally 3 small lines of dialogue before someone on screen uses a stock emote action and holds the conversation up for 5 seconds, then someone will pivot on the spot and walk away. EVERY. FUCKING. CUTSCENE.
Plus the fact that we're getting maybe a few pages worth of story once every 6-8 fucking weeks makes it pretty hard to keep up with every minor generic faced NPC (of which there are literally thousands, there is so much filler in this game.)
If FF14 was a novel series or a TV show then I'd probably know and care who Hachefaunt is.

>>380582127
There's like 10. Most of them die off or become f2p because they have trouble keeping subscribers.

>>380582156
Yoshi already confirmed the tank gear winner to be endgame tomestone gear, so I assume that will be too.

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>>380578530

YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE PATCH

>>380581487
I actually did the Crystal Tower quests a few months ago so I could get aether oil for my weapon and was surprised to see him pop up. It was a nice little storyline and I'm glad it got recycled in some way for Heavensward.

>>380582334
t. i haven't done the hildibrand quests

>>380582331
Source?

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>>380582372

Who else 99 atheryte tickets? It's 999 gil to teleport between continents.

>>380578530

3.0 - 8.5
3.1 - 5.0
3.2 - 9.0
3.3 - 8.5
3.4 - 9.5
3.5 - 6.5

Overall a fantastic expansion, really took when ARR provided and just took it to the next level, was a lovely two years.

Pro's -
Graphical designs
Audio was as good as ever
The game play was mostly much more significant and enjoyable then the level 50 counterparts, suddenly there was some weight.
The story was far more enjoyable
Alexander provided great moments and tracks
Crafting was interesting and they learnt and found a nice niche that crafters can create without breaking anything.
All the quality of life changes
Fun events, with great emote additions
And much moreee

Cons -
Poor scheduling at the start of the expac created a rather big drought for a few months.
Diadem and Verminion had a major big miss at the start.
The quick (Though it was the right thing to ignore that crap) resolution to 2.0 story arcs.
Gordias tier difficulty despite its limited fun, killed a lot of groups despite it being fun to watch.
Desynth remained completely unused for anything big.
They released crafting Omni gear too quickly I believe.

I'll miss you Heavensward!

>>380581217
Ultros

>>380582207
What's so different about making it a sidestory? I guarantee that if it had been part of the MSQ, it wouldn't have been any deeper or more interesting. You'd just be awkwardly shuffled off between quests to periodically deal with the Triad shit, just like in the 2.X series where the actual story was routinely interrupted so you could go and fight "primal-of-the-week".

Not only does keeping it separate mean that the Heavensward patch quests are less onerous than the ARR ones, it means that the Warring Triad story can be experienced as one contiguous plot instead of crudely inserted into the Dragonsong War stuff.

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>mfw going to buy jump potions for all classes

>>380582417
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/7933cb4e7b3a01b4e86dc352c2ac06cca462cfc4#aa3_4

>Want to move to the new Omega server
>Heard rumours of it being seized by RP cunts to make it Balmung.2.0
Fuck! Nuke all the RP fucks! If this is the case I'll fucking unsub because those idiots are god damn annoying hemorrhoids.

>>380581217
Hyperion.

>>380582156
I really like all of the user-created gear, because holy shit the guy they have for the current gear just keeps making the same shit over and over.

Like remember how you would go from Lv90 AF to Soldiery to Ironworks and each one had a different look?

All of the HW gear just meshes together.

>>380582235
I was going to say the capped gear was the AF, but we're getting that upon hitting Lv70 as our first Job so you're probably right, though they haven't shown it at all yet so maybe it'll be a 4.2 Tome gear.

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>>380582323
>reddit's already declared omega as the new unofficial EU RP server

>>380582372

Idiot, it's way too soon. Try again in seven hours or so.

>>380582429
nice so all the poorfags wont be able to go to kugane

So we're all in agreement

Mor Dhona >>>>>> Idleshit

>>380582464
Can only buy one before 4.1. Best pick and choose wisely, anon.

>>380582471

Ugh I wish they would put the exact time we can start downloading. How big will this be anyway?

>>380582478
It was announced yeterday
What rumors, you fucking retard
There no rp server on the chaos anyway

>>380581740
Yes but apparently you can only buy one potion per account until at least 4.1.

>>380582412
Please, Hildy is notable purely BECAUSE the cutscenes intentionally depart from the bland generic monotony that composes the game's MSQ.
The fucking characters even openly mock how shit the game engine is.

>>380582440
>Desynth remained completely unused for anything big.
What about aethersands which were crucial to make craft high level stuff?

>>380582331
Patch will probably go up around the time of the patch notes.

>>380582531

Revenant's Toll had fun things to climb.
The shire had a fucking rock.

>>380582531
>thanks doc mist with shit space opera music vs [bagpipe intensifies]
do you like cancer or ebola more

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>>380582331
>patch note reading at midday
>not working
I'm fucking set.

>>380582495

literally every server is the unofficial rp server despite the fact that the game has a very clear cut story for the player character

why can't roleplayers just kill themselves

>>380582478
All the RP fags are going to mateus I thought?

Fuck it, I'm gong to sleep.

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>>380581217
Odin.

>>380582334
I find it kinda hard to classify Haurchefant as one of those minor generic NPCs though, you could definitely throw him in that camp in ARR, but 2.55 delivers you to him. He delivers you to Fortemps Manor, he's pretty heavily involved in the Ishgard story, which is most of Heavensward's content.

I don't disagree about the story cutscenes being just... way too stock though. They could certainly do with more movement and emotion and actual camera work. 1.0 had some pretty great cutscenes, just not a whole lot of them.

As for the disjointed nature of the narrative due to patches, I guess I just have pretty good memory for random shit, it's never bothered me much.

>22 hours 54 minutes
Damn, I can't take it anymore

>>380582640
Mateus is NA, Omega is EU.

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>>380581217
Lamia

>>380582590

Aethersands were based on collectables (Gathering) and didn't use the desynth mechanic but a new Aetherical Reduction mechanic independent from Desynthesis.

That had everything to do with how well you could collect on gatherers, better the gather, higher the purity.

>>380582531
Revenant's toll being in zone was way better than shire being its own zone.

>>380582582
You're not wrong about the rest of the game, just that it's not EVERY CUTSCENE when Hildy exists.
It's ironic that a series of joke quests had the most effort put into its cutscenes and the dialogue isn't plagued with reddit succor cuckspeak either

>>380582638
Too busy RPing presumably.

>>380582640
Mateus, Odin, Cactuar, Omega
Who the fuck know anymore
It will always be Balmung even closed to new players.

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>>380582692

>>380582547
I Googled it and found their shitty community boards where they talk about it. Most of them are either staying on Balmung or moving to Omega to fuck it up and "seize it" as the new unofficial RP server.

>>380582463
I wanted Regula to have a bigger role or a refight.

But all I got was him dying and people /sit spamming over his body.

It also meant that despite being unattached to the MSQ, it still got fucked over by 3.3 needing to use Nidhogg as it's ONE fight in the patch.

>>380581217
Famfrit. Literally no one else in these threads is on this server. It's deader than disco but we're still not part of the preffered world's program somehow.

>>380582684
>*nods*
>*walks away*

>>380582638
>literally every server is the unofficial rp server despite the fact that the game has a very clear cut story for the player character

Yes and no.
While the current game story is pretty much set, players have a lot of leeway to project whatever backstory they want on their character.

>>380581217
Zodiarc
Will transfr on the omega

>there are people who AREN'T going to sleep before the game comes out

>>380582796
>Garleans will revive Regula somehow (Ascian fuckery most likely)
>He'll come back batshit crazy, but will still be given command of his legion
>Legion 6 begins to live up to its name.

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I give it a strong 6

>>380582796
>you're friends with the empire for 5 minutes before shillblood arrives and pretends nothing happened
feels bad man

>>380581217
Adamantoise

>>380582747
Anon, as the dude said those sidequests exist as a 4th wall breaking "yeah we know our ps3 limitations cutscenes are horrendously dull" lighthearted apology. Even the team animating the msq knows it looks shit and that nearly every scene in the game is an indistinguishable boring rote.

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>>380581131
Present. I'm too tied to SMN to let go. Besides, I'm not too miffed about the changes. I'm 99% sure there's more going under the hood than surface understanding of the changing numbers.

>>380581217
ragnarok
tfw many friends already said they leave for omega ;__;

>>380582861
But I woke up like 2 hours ago.

>>380582684
>1.0 had some pretty great cutscenes, just not a whole lot of them.

Those cutscenes were also mocapped and the big needless budget on them is what was partially responsible for killing 1.0 in the first place.

>>380582543
I think it might be 30 gigs.

WHERE ARE THE FUCKING PATCH NOTES YOSHI P

>>380582861
My sleep schedule is very fucked, basically opposite of what it needs to be. No way I can adjust it tonight, I've already been awake for 12 hours and no way I can stay up another 12 just so I can wake up to the servers being absolutely destroyed and that one login error that causes the game to close.

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>>380583004
I'M FUCKING FREAKIN OUT MAN.

>>380583004
Tonight

>>380581217
Levi

Who else ready to repost datamined spoilers fucking everywhere?

>>380581217
Leviathan

>>380580608

you can't use these for the new jobs can you

fuck POTD

>>380583004
see
>>380582331

>>380583054
I'm ready to get the entirety of the fucking ost.

>>380582543

It will probably be an additional 10-12gbs. Bringing the amount of total space you need up to about 40gb's.

>>380582717
I had to look up with desyth was. I was unaware miners could break anything down.

>>380582958
>throw all money at developing movie cutscenes
>forget to give money to the actual game developers
I blame western games for this.

>>380581480
is it meor this person for got to put on ear holes

>>380582543
>>380582965
According to my folder, ARR/HW is only 24.1 GB

I know they say have 60GB space free but that's more if you're installing all of them, expect SB only to be between 10-12GB

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>>380583074
How can you miss the bold red text at the bottom?

>>380582898
There's not a lot they can do with the skeletal budget they have. And even if the budget was increased they'd probably invest it in more content, rather than better cutscenes.

Alternatively they could go back to 1.0 style, blowing most of the budget on mocap and presentation and then the actual game is like this: https://youtu.be/Y1csF69rOWc

Anyone knows if they will nerf the fucking anima steps? Getting all those umbrites n shit is a pain in the ass and a tad boring too

>>380583054
Patch won't be up until like 6 hours or less from the game going up, once that happens I'm gone from social media.

Even Mounts/Minions could be spoilers.

>>380583074
Nope! RDM and SAM won't have one until 4.1. You can also only buy one prior to 4.1. DoL/DoH will not have boost pots so hope you enjoy grinding and farming.

>>380580418
>not duchess

wew

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>I still hate limsa and ala mhiggos more than empire

>>380583158

They're already as nerfed as they're going to get. Sorry, man.

>>380583114

If you didn't use Aethercial Reduction on your miner/fisher/bot you missed out on the best way. Desynth was used more like a padding, a bad bad padding.

>>380583292
Desynth is an easy way to get rich.

>>380583154
I think a lot of the problems would be alleviated if they let you read more than 3 lines of dialogue at a time before being interrupted by *nod* *shocked* *thumbsup* bullshit.

>>380582958
Yep, so it gets filed into one of those dumb 'this costs money for us to fix, money we either don't have or have funneled into something else' situations. I don't know where I'd prefer they put that money, and I'm certainly not informed enough to say how much it costs and who would have to do it, so it's just one of those things that will probably continue and continue to be a weak point.

>>380583221
Fray better return for 60+

>>380582495
Fuck yes, dude. I can't wait to shit all over RPers.

>>380583221
Empire is cool, but what do you have against Limsa? Atleast they are not dirty tree huggers.

>>380580785
RDM although I feel like it will be the shitter job. SMN or BLM after. BLM is my favorite FF job in the series but I was not good at 3.0 BLM on any fight that had movement and invul which was basically all fights in HW.

>>380583335
BRASS
R
I
N
G

>>380582861
but i will? actually im going to sleep until 12

>>380583362
Fray is dead and burried.

>>380583292
I desythed a lot of stuff on FSH, but never really anything else. Shit.

I was unaware aetherial reduction was even a thing.

Fuck.

>>380582331

fuck the patch notes I'm going in dry

>>380583232
>>380583158
>Animas are first announced with atmas
>farm fates for 10ms then fuck off forever
>they """""""""improve""""""""" atma drop rates
>still not worth it at all lmao
>figure they'll keep nerfing it so I'll wait until its not autism/shitter levels of grinding to start
>bones.jpg

>>380582717
The problem with Aetherial reduction and collectibles is that it's balanced around being at the perception cap, and the perception cap itself is low as fuck and easily surpassed after better gear was added. So it ends up just being either a single set rotation, with RNG only from the skills themselves.

>>380583375
Name one bad thing Gridania did to us.

>>380583154
To be fair the dude is playing on a serious fucking toaster.

>>380583362
Nope. We'll be traveling with Sidurgu to find his lost tribe in Azim Steppe while training Rielle to become a DRK herself.

>>380583158
It'll be way easier once you can buy all the items with poetics and all dungeons below 70 will give you poetics. Other than that they won't reduce the amount you need anymore, they never nerfed the Zodiac weapons after all.

>>380583292
Does aetherical reduction have a desyth leveling system like mechanic where I have to grind on lower level stuff to get to the big stuff?

>>380581563

>the two most popular worlds are the most congested

you don't say

>>380583539
No, it's based on the collectibles system. Higher collectibility = better shit from reduction.

>>380583539
No because it's not a fucking horrible system like desynth. If you can collect it, you can reduce it.

>>380583375
Fuck off, before ishgard release, forest city was the only decent city state in the entire game

>>380583539
No. What you get is based on how high you got the collectable rating on the item you're reducing.

>>380583595
>>380583596
>>380583628

Thank you. I recently came back after stopping after finishing the MSQ after edgy dragoon went batshit. So I'm trying to remember a ton of stuff.

>>380582538
Is it one per character, or one per account?

>>380583797
Per account.

>>380583375
A bunch of dirty pirate niggers.

>>380583221
frays such a fucking retard i couldnt keep doing DRK job quest because of how fucking useless that dumb bitch is
thank fuck for job boosts

>>380581217
Greetings fellow Shiva fag.

Jacke confirmed for the SB narrator

>>380581807
I skipped every single cutscene, so I don't give a fuck. I have no idea what is going on or who the characters even are.