Should games be fictional escapism with artistic liberty or do

>>380576660
The latter. Black women german soldiers in WWII is just plain retarded, no matter how you look at it.

>>380576660
Games can be anything and people can choose what kind of games they want to play. Some go for escapism, some go for realism, and etc. If you don't like a game, then don't play it.

Both. I see nothing wrong with historical fiction just if you're trying to accurately represent historical events don't be a faggot.

>>380576660
Developers should do what they want but maybe this is an exception? Call of duty want to go the fictional route but when so many believe it's the truth does it change anything?

>>380576660
>games """""SHOULD""""" be __________

nope

Games can be whatever the fuck, I mean isn't wolfenstein about a parallel ww2 where hitler makes zombies or some shit?

>>380576660
Should be whatever the fuck the authors feel like.

>>380576660
>removes Nazi symbolism
>keeps the Holocaust
Oy fucking vey

>MoH:U multiplayer
>play as a nutcracker aka Panzerknacker
>CoDWWII
>play as a black SS woman

It's silly fiction, get over it boys

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>>380576660
>Oh yeah our game is 100% true to actual historical events
>depicts the Holocaust

>>380577094
Why do you guys always say the holocaust never happened when the evidence overwhelmingly says otherwise?

>>380577160
>"""evidence"""
You ever heard the saying 'history is written by the victors'?

>>380576660
I think they should be whatever the fuck the developers want them to be, and if it doesn't appeal to the mass consumer then so be it.

>>380577160
Because he's shitposting you dork.

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>>380577160
I believe 300,000 Jews died in concentration camps, due to a typhus epidemic. That's what the evidence shows.

There's literally no evidence for the 6 million figure or for gas chambers with zyklon b. The amount of time it takes zyklon b to kill people is too long for that to have been an efficient process plus the calculated amount of residue does not correlate with the huge amounts that would have been needed.

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>>380577160
There's no physical or photographic evidence of gas chambers given that the soviet claim is that the Germans destroyed them all in their retreat.

The only alleged photographs show showering and delousement rooms with non-airtight wooden doors.

Pics related is the official Red Cross report conducted after the war on the number of Jewish deaths in Nazi camps

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>>380576770
Get a load of this racist. Why don't you like diversity?
It's a video game anyway, why not be inclusive and include everyone?

>question the holocaust
>get arrested
>offer a monetary reward for anyone able to prove the holocaust
>get sued by a jew because his "eyewitness" testimony was denied, lose all your money, and be forced to watch a movie adaptation where you're portrayed as an evil skinhead being outsmarted in court by Leonard Nimoy
Of course I believe in it

>>380576660
>World War 2
>factual evidence

Never going to happen.

>>380576660
Well, clearly this one example is the first one

>>380577435
>>380577586
It was also thermodynamically impossible to dispose of that many corpses with the technology and facilities of the time, within the few year span in which the camps were operational.

>>380577004
e3 is a global event and in many countries swastikas are banned, therefore they have to censore them. Im pretty sure when the game releases theyll have localized content and in most countries its not gonna be censored. This happened before.

>>380577094
I just hope camp will be staffed by those guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbd9tfNUOkA

>>380576660
>press F to gas

>>380576660
Depends on what the game is going for. If everything else is clearly trying to immerse the player in realism then everything should be realistic. Otherwise take all the creative liberties you want. It just pisses me off, when the atmoshere is serious and everything is clearly trying to depict real weapons, then sudenly somthing happense that didn't in the real event. Ruins the immersion

>>380577435
>>380577586
NOT ONLY JEWS DIED IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS YOU RETARDS. IT'S NOT A FUCKING ELABORATE RUSE. From my country alone there were hundreds of survivors and witnesses. I fucking hate burgers who think they're smart because they deny that concentartion camps existed.

>>380576660
Holocaust never happened tho.

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>>380577891
>BRAAAAAAAAP

>>380576660
>/pol/ shitposting thread
[ - ]

>>380577256
Listen you fucking anti-semite, it's real in our minds

>>380577941
This is true. As someone who died in the holocaust myself, I find it very emotionally traumatic when people deny what I went through.

why not both?

Press F to die of typhus

>>380576660
I don't understand why you would depict the Holocaust in a war game. The allies weren't even aware of it until the war was pretty much over. I'm sure as shit no nazi but I'm sick of how the WWII narrative has been tainted forever because of hindsight.

>Why are the Nazis being depicted as the bad guys?
>because of the Holocaust
>but the allies didn't know that the Nazis were committing the Holocaust at the time (or if they were aware of it they didn't care enough to stop it)
>uh...

This first really bothered me in Raiders of the Lost Ark. Great movie, but if you consider the context of the time it supposedly takes place in, Indiana Jones is really no better than Belloq. They're both government-paid grave robbers. The only reason that Belloq is supposedly the bad guy is because he works for the Nazis, but it's never explained why Indie would automatically label the Nazis as evil. Spielberg used historical hindsight as a shortcut instead of considering how the characters would actually think and act, and he paints everything very clearly black and white with zero ambiguity or self-awareness whatsoever. And yes, it's a pulpy dumb action movie, maybe I'm just autistic, but it did bother me a fair amount. Temple of Doom doesn't have this problem, the thuggee cult is clearly evil and Indy is unquestionably the good guy.

>>380577941
>make work camps for political prisoners
>later in the war run into supply line issues and there are disease epidemics because the prisoners are too stupid to use the soap you issue them
>a lot of your guards and prisoners starve or die due to disease
>because a lot of people died in your work camps, the prisoners think it was your plan to starve them and spread disease
>despite the fact that guards also suffered and died under these conditions

This is some real WE tier logic.

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>>380576660
"""Factual"""

>>380578406
>I don't understand why you would depict the Holocaust in a war game.
Because it's Call of Duty, you gotta have at least one "shocking" segment in those. Nuke scene, No Russian, that little girl killed by a bomb in MW3...

>present both sides of the story based on factual evidence?

Both sides whinge no matter how it's portrayed. Imagine if you had a campaign of the bombing of dresden, Americas would get trigged as fuck and as soon as you put the jews in strife in any Nazi/WWII related shit revisionists go mad saying that shit didn't happen.

In any or all cases, video games shouldn't be treated like fucking history lessons.

>>380578213
>http://zapisyterroru.pl/dlibra
Switch the language to english. Here you go, a website with hundreds of testimonies of POLISH citizens not JEWS, regarding death camps, arrests and what have you.

>Chronicles of Terror is one of the largest collections of civilian testimonies from the occupied Europe, featuring testimonies of Polish citizens who faced both Nazizm and Communism during World War II. These materials reflect the experience of thousands of Polish victims of totalitarian crimes, and of their families and loved ones.

The most killing happened in occuped Poland, there were people to see it.

>>380576660
artistic liberty of course. freedom of expression is important, and people who disagree should be arrested for shitposting since that's what they seem to believe in

>>380578524
why not rip off valkyrie and have a botched assassination of hitler?

>>380577646
>It's a video game anyway
I fucking hate this excuse, we might as well just include a bunch of robots and dinosaurs while we're at it because who fucking cares about historical accuracy right?

The only thing pissing me off about this game was watching multiplayer footage and hearing women screaming everywhere.

>>380577094

>LOL THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED
>LOL GET BACK IN THE OVEN JEW

Well? What is it??

>>380578416
Some fucking burger will be teaching me about WWII and death camps. How rich.

>>380578675
That would actually be pretty neat.

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>come upon a concentration camp
>violin music starts playing
>despite gunning down hordes of them previously, there are no black or female german soldiers from this point on, all replaced by blonde haired blue eyed white male models for the rest of the campaign
>slow walking sequence through scores of twisted laboratories, filled with all manner of torture devices and masturbation machines
>walk on catwalks above the massive vats where they make the soap
>"My god, six million in this camp alone..."
>Press F to assist your sassy black afro/hoop earrings squad member in pulling the gas chamber door open
>Press F to hold your jewish squad member back from beating up an evil nazi in a righteous rage

>>380578406
Allow me to offer a better and shorter explanation.

Spiel(((berg)))

>>380576660
They should tell the real truth about the Holocaust. The West grossly under reported the actual dead. Perhaps as many as 60 million Jews were killed, not just 6 million according to more accurate estimates.

You can't be one or the other, and the new CoD is trying to make its own cake then eat it too.

>We want historical accuracy
>But we also want to appease Tumblr with black female Nazis

It's just a slap in the face to everybody.

>>380576660
>WILL depict the Holocaust
>WON'T use the hakenkreuz

also niggers and women fighting during Operation Overlord

>>380578787
I'm Yurop you dumb nigger. From the way you post and how you jump to conclusions, I'd have to assume you're a gypsy, in which case I have to ask, when are we deporting you people pack to Pooinlooia, where you came from?

>>380576770
This.

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>>380577160
I feel like this is bait

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>>380578848
Nice!

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>>380577435
Who cares about your zyclon shit. My grandfather was a POW and he ate water with maggots for 2 years. Germans deserve everything what they got

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>>380577821

>>380576660
they cna be whatever the fuck they want to be

>>380576660
They need some controversy to fuel up the hype, that's it. Also:
>care about historical truth
>decide not to include swastikas because it's an offensive symbol
And I'm not gonna talk about multiplayer because nobody fucking cares about historical accuracy in a multiplayer of fucking Call of Duty games.

>>380579176
Man, are you going to be salty when feminism and third-worlidism comes to your country. Just remember, the good guys lost the war.

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>>380578213
>he didn't survive being gassed 6 times

oy vey!

>>380578915

You're thinking about the 60 million eastern europeans and slavics killed by Bolshevik jews.

>>380579189
>stop homophobia
like clockwork

>>380579176
I sexually identify as a holocaust survivor, where are my reparations.

>>380576660
Are we gonna have masturbation machines ?

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>>380579097

the world war 2 games were only good when they were about actual historical events and actually try to teach you something about that era and the conflict going on.

No swastikas? women in the army? wtf? this is just dumb bullshit.

the original Medal of Honor games on PS1 and 2 were always the best. fuck even the first few Call of duties were as well.

this is just a cartoon dimension X crap.

>>380579097

That description makes no sense.

>>380579189
Fucking kek.

They make the argument the Holocaust didn't happen better than the Holocaust skeptics.

>>380576660
They can be either, but if they're set in some historical period, they should be historically accurate, unless it's clearlyc stated that this is some alternative timeline.
>>380578406
But he knew they were going to use it as a weapon. This is what makes them "bad guys" regardless of historical asocciations.

>>380579097
DEJA VU

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>>380579452
that's the kind of shit that prompted Finkelstein to write this

>>380577435
>>380577821
Why do fucking retards think 6 million people died in the camps? There were massive amounts of Jews who never made it to the camps and were shot on the spot. This is what happened to most of the Jews in the soviet territories, auxiliary SS troops were sent in to round up the jews, ethnic poles and other undesirables and then summarily execute them

Remember when Call of Duty 2 had female characters and nobody gave a fuck because they didn't showed that fact down our throat?

>>380579338

Why wouldn't they just shoot him at that point?

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>>380579526
remember that the Jews would NEVER lie about the number of people who died in the Holocaust

okay, MAYBE the number of goyim killed, but definitely not the number of Jews!

>>380578406
>>Why are the Nazis being depicted as the bad guys?
>>because of the Holocaust

what is occupation for 500 Alex.

nobody knew holocaust was happening but a damn far more people hated being fucking occupied by a foreign nation. especially by a dictatorship.

>>380579528
The US would have used it as a weapon too though. In fact them storing it away in a facility and not using it is the least realistic part of the whole movie.

>>380578714
That wouldd feel less forced at this point, sadly.

>>380577843
no it isnt. You got bunch game shows in europe. E3 is an american thing.

>>380576660
It literally depends on the setting.

Don't do shit that hurts the consumer's suspension of disbelief. If you create a "realistic" game set during WW 1 or 2 or medieval Europe and suddenly a bunch of niggers show up it hurts suspension of disbelief and reduces people's enjoyment of your games.

>>380579620
Can you show any proof for this?

>>380576660
I can't wait to save jews from the masturbation machines. those nazi scum will pay.

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>>380579652
because he's lying

>>380579625
>Remember when Call of Duty 2 had female characters
no.

>/pol/tards deny the holocaust
>"uwumy my little nazi sister cant be this horrible"

>>380579404
Ask merkel. The cuckkraut will pay for his grandfather's sins.

>>380578406
>it's never explained why Indie would automatically label the Nazis as evil

Fascism, my man. Nazi Germany was pretty brutal in silencing dissent.

You don't have to give a shit about the six trillion (oy vey) to know that the Nazi's were bad guys.

>>380577843
Then why Wolfenstein showed swastikas without any problems?

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>>380579834

>>380579723
Non-communist French didn't mind it.

>>380576660
if your going to do a game based on history like a ww2 game at least get the major facts right. unlike battlefield 1, if can take liberty's for storytelling sake but at least show some fucking respect for the men and women that suffered through that part of history

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>>380576660

>incoming black jews in shower rooms
>incoming burning lesbians holding hands whilst burned on a pyre
>incoming asians fighting for allied side

6 million people died but it won't mean anything to these devs.

Jesus Christ, fuck the left.

>>380579818
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_Ukraine

>>380577094
If the holocaust never happened then Hitler was a huge faggot and clearly did something wrong

>>380579923
>French didn't mind it
lol yes they did. they were just weak and needed help. most of the french were apart of the underground rebellion.

>>380576660
OY VEY. Now young goims can understand the horrendous experince my grandmother went through! Dont forget the six million semites who are more important than the other millions who died

>>380579818
See, I could dig up a bunch of historical documents about the massacre in Babi Yar and other atrocities but you're just going to say it's kike propaganda and call me a shill.

>>380579871
>Nazi Germany was pretty brutal in silencing dissent.
>smashing commie skulls is a bad thing
>despite the fact commies have ruined every single country they've gained prominence or power in

>the Nazi's were bad guys
If you're white, you're the problem.

>>380579838
Then you have problems with memory.
Also in Finest Hour there was a female MC.

>>380579502
>actually try to teach you something about that era
>the first few Call of duties
but that's not true at all

>>380580064
>all who opposed nazis were commies
wew lad

>>380578406
You are autistic. It is a throwback to the old adventure serials so of course it has zero ambiguity.

>>380577843
>many countries
you cant name "many countries" other than germany.

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OY

>>380580034
>most of the french were apart of the underground rebellion
Jesus Christ, I wish I could be this ignorant.

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>>380579974

>>380580092

proof?

>>380580064
>smashing commie skulls is a bad thing

Never said that. But both commies and fascists are the same tier of vermin.

The holocaust happened

>>380576770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kKT4K-0_ZI#t=00m30s.

r e l e v a n t

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VEY

>>380579923
>this faggot would just lay over and die if a foreign force occupied his country
you dont deserve the life your ancestors secured for you, faggot

>>380580130
Ok, I'll take the bait. Who else apart from a commie or minority agitator would be against a pro-nativist faction?

>>380579097
>That excerpt
Goddamnit. Pol was right about the goddamn Holocaust, weren't they?

>>380580064
>except Russia, china, and North korea.

>>380578213
I am suing you for mocking the holocaust. My grandmother died at the hands of nazi's, asshole

>>380580064
>murdering those you disagree with is good
>wtf stop painting them as evil ;_; why do you do this?
Hmmm

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reminder 9/11 never happend. All the eyewitnesses are lying, the american goverment create fake pics and videos, there is no way a plane back then can cause a tower to collapse and theres no way that many people were in 2 building uwu

>>380580209
Good goy. Now please give up your job, we simply can't afford to pay you when there's a "qualified" half-mexican, half-negroe willing to work for less.

>>380580186
oh yeah you're right, there was no rebellion. they were all happy to be occupied and not saving face with their occupiers.

>>380580123
early CoD had history reels didnt it? I know MoH did.

>>380577160
>when the evidence overwhelmingly says otherwise?
look at the numbers for 10 seconds. they don't make any sense at all.

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>>380580267
wew lad

>>380576660
>Should games be fictional escapism with artistic liberty
What is Black Soldiers on D-Day Normandie
>or do you think they should accurately depict historical events and present both sides of the story based on factual evidence?
What is Russian female snipers, holohoax extermination camps weren't real

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>>380580187
My grandmother from village at pic related. All children were making fun of her during her childhood calling her a nazi or bandera.

>>380580262

Are you stupid? Anyone who disagrees with that factions policies.

Simply saying they are 'pro-nativist' is vague as fuck. It tells me nothing about their goals or practices.

>>380579620
6 million people did not die period. It was closer to half that. They were killed by nazis, but not mostly just for sport as many "first hand accounts" claimed.

So yes, it happened, but it's exadurated all the same

>>380580357
>early CoD had history reels
I don't remember, maybe it had some stock footage, but what does this have to do with the content on the game itself?

>Depict the Holocaust

No fucking way they will be allowed to do anything near what /v/ thinks this means

>>380580242
If this foreign force wants to remove the jews who have already occupied it and promote nativist policies and ethnic pride, I'd help them remove the occupying zionist government. Which reminds me.

>this faggot would not fight against an occupation government and would just lay over and die if it became the public consensus
you deserve the ZOG life your ancestors secured for you, faggot

Why are you people trying to deny Hitler's greatest achievement?

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>>380576660

>Fictional escapism

That's perfectly fine. They are depicting the holocaust after all.

>>380577160
You mean fabricated evidence? The one with the bloated 6 million? Even allahosnackbars, know that is fake

>>380577646


>>380578714
Yeah that excuse is shit, it's a fucking ww2 themed game. The Nazis are NAZI themed. Black lady Nazi just takes from the historical immersion. This isn't some kind of racist issue, it's just if I'm gonna be consuming media that relates to ww2 I would like to feel like it's actually ww2.

>Saving private Ryan: The special edition
>Now with 75% more black lady nazis

>>380580378

Post the one with the masturbation machines

>>380579751
Realistically, probably yeah. But in the movie they didn't, which makes them "better". Also remember than Naziz burned down Indy's girlfriend's bar and later kidnapped her

>>380580314
>meanwhile he wants to murder those he disagrees with himself

It seems we're not so different, you and I.

>>380580378

>Andrew Dobson is a war criminal

>>380580479
>uwu Hitler was a great man who didnt hate jews

>>380580448
the context was that their was some history to be learned from playing and it wasn't watered down or changed to suit today's ideologies.
sure it was more movie like (like saving private ryan) but it was still grounded in reality. I don't know what this new CoD is grounded in.

>>380580389
>picture for ants
>bad fitting uniforms
>that makarov
:\

>>380580435
Ah, so you don't actually have an answer. Good to know.
>>380580473
It's just going to be some Wolfenstein tier sequence.

>>380576660
>present both sides based on factual evidence

If our history books even did that then the world would have quite a different view on Nazi Germany don't expect a videogame to

>>380580478
>foreign occupying force
>promote nativist policies
you are a special brand of retard, aren't you

Devs already said they WILL have true swastikas etc. etc. for the CAMPAIGN.

So can we stop bitching about this.

>>380580438
>Killed for sport
Its fucking war dipshit. People have to die. Goddamn kikes
I bet you believe in """"war crimes""" too

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>collapse from hunger
"well shit, I guess we can't gas you now"

>>380580479
>vegetarian
>banned guns
>didn't even kill Jews
>didn't have children, officially

He was an alright guy, but he had issues.

>>380580502
>Even allahosnackbars
sure lets trust crazy desert people.

>>380580507
>Black lady Nazi just takes from the historical immersion.
It's a multiplayer feature you dolt.
>killing two guys to summon a magic spy plane is fine
>huge medals for every single thing you do flashing on your screen is fine
>running and gunning around with BAR or Bren is fine
>but gay Nazi niggers from outer space is ruining mah immershun!

>>380580589
It was grounded in American war movies.

>>380576660
WWII games should be as historically accurate as possible. Everything else is fair game.

Do you niggers really think the holocaust didn't happen or is that just a meme?

I went to Auschwitz as a part of a school trip.

Really didn't seem that big

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>>380579974
Lmao the killing of Jews in Ukraine was done by Ukrainians, not by Germans. After the Nazis expelled the Soviets from Ukraine, they flung open the prisons of the NKVD. The Ukrainian people found tens of thousands of their relatives had been killed by NKVD (which were mostly Jewish) and went apeshit on the local Jews. The nazis didn't organise it, they just stood by and let it happen.

It's not only nazis that hate Jews, it's literally fucking everyone who's had them in their country.

>>380580326
All the pictures were taken after the fact, we have pictures and videos during 9/11.

9/11 happened but it was an instrument to start another conflict which would make the united states exponentially rich - just like pearl harbour. The rabbit hole is understandably deep, and you can't trust anything.

>>380580602
>Ah, so you don't actually have an answer.

I sure did, dipshit.
>Anyone who disagrees with that factions policies

If you want a more specific answer, don't make the question so vague.

>>380580548
Except the guys from sites like The Daily Stormer are free to express their opinions and aren't locked up?
Unless you mean me personally, but then you are just making shit up.

>>380576660
Why not both?

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>>380580512
see
>>380579907

>>380580209
liberal cuck detected. first year in college? or you in highschool?

>>380580665
>your personal diet is an issue when it comes to leading a country
how?

>>380580726
>Unless you mean me personally, but then you are just making shit up.
>>380579871
>the Nazi's were bad guys

So either you're a judgmental radical pacifist (a faggot), a centrist (a faggot) or a faggot (a faggot).

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>>380580818

>fascist dicksucker calling anyone else a cuck

wew

>>380580850
I want my leaders to have a healthy diet so they can deal with the stress of leadership. This includes animal fats and proteins. Although I'm pretty sure Hitler ate cheese and eggs if he was vegetarian at all, could just be propaganda against him.

>>380580859
You do know that all those replies you get aren't from one person?
Retard. Get that ID script if you're this fucking stupid.

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>>380580690
was it fun?

>>380580906
Got so triggered, cared enough to replay. I knew u was kiddie cuck. Not even a fascist

Considering how they've already added black female German soldiers, I can't wait to free a concentration camp full of black Jews in the campaign.

>>380580706
good joke. Its all mindgame. The twin towers never existed. On 9/11 the media aired fake footage and that airing was faked

>>380580974
two scoops

>>380580678
Multiplayer is also another depiction of the situation

Well if we didn't have vehicles unlocks or award systems then nobody would buy the game you >dolt

>>380581016
The Blacks in the game Is character customization
No-one in the campaign is a nig

>/pol/ complains about black woman nazis
>sjws complain about shooting black women
>every flavour of faggot is triggered
this game is a masterpiece and it's not even out yet

>>380581042
Sugar is degenerate, but a bad diet is a symptom of the times Trump grew up in. That said, he's pretty lively for a 71 year old. He's two years older than Hillary and she's a wreck. Guess infant blood transfusions aren't as healthy as one might think they are.

>>380581076
W I T H A H A R D R

Why are raging anti-semities so against jews being murdered they deny that it even happened?

>>380581046
>Multiplayer is also another depiction of the situation
It's just multiplayer. And some people wouldn't buy it if it had less customization than previous titles. If you want more realistic take on the setting, play Red Orchestra, Darkest of Days, some other smaller budget title. When you buy CoD, you buy an FPS aimed to please the most people, not to be authentic and shiet.

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>>380581374
the Holocaust is the source of Jews' power.

>>380581374
Raging anti-semite here.

>Broke
The holocaust happened and it was horrible.
>Joke
The holocaust never happened.
>Woke
The holocaust never happened, but it should have.

>>380580237
>>380580185
>>380580378
Let's be honest, if you'd be jew too and see how much money you can make on gulibule goyim you'd also made up some fake story about seeing your parents getting analy raped in Auschwitz despite you being 40.

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>>380576660
one does not exclude the other, a developer can do the former, and another one the latter.
Are we in first grade? Should we really have the need to explain this shit?

>>380581505
>inherited holocaust trauma
The memes about drinking it with mother's milk are ture lmao. I can bet my 1st born son that 200 years from now on people will say
>my great grand mother was gassed in holocaust and her memories still live in my, you know like in those assasin's creed games? it's like that.

>>380581505
>>380581574
Wow, some people on Twitter are retards and some other people made up stories to get attention, I definitely believe the holocaust didn't happen now!

>>380581684
The ADL are considered nutters by many jews as well.

>>380576952
the difference is that wolfenstein clearly isnt trying to be realistic or accurate, but every interview for Ww2 is about how accurate it is

>>380581701
>Assassin's Creed WWII
>get into animus
>see vivid scene of execution by masturbation machine as nazi officers laugh, while eating cake they found in one of the gas chamber victim's pockets

>>380581468
Guess you're right.

Jesus christ I'm getting these "click on a new one" captchas over and over, just got three separate captchas this time around.

>>380581523
Redundant logic. Nobody believes in the 2nd point without believing in the 3rd.

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>>380581842
>every interview for Ww2 is about how accurate it is

Damn, can't wait to learn about the zombie war that happened while our troops were fighting nazis

>>380581869
>Assassin's Creed WWII
>Get into animus
> Play as a bar of soap

>>380580196
Play the games, retard.

>yet another /pol/ circle jerk
hate u autistic niggers

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>>380579974

>10 million Ukrainians killed in the 30's by starvation over months
>3-4 million more in the 40's during the war

>Jews bitch endlessly about how 6 million of them were gassed and erect museums and memorials all over the world and get super butthurt if you even mention the holocaust
>Ukrainians never bring Holodomor up and nobody on earth even remembers it

Jews are the greatest whiners on the planet.

Make a NKVD campaign where you serve in the blocking troops

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>>380582218
what's going on there

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>>380578848
Top kek

People should be free to make and play whatever games they want. I think a WW2 game that butchers history to pander to diversity is trash but I'm not going to amass an army of Twitter followers to bully a private company into changing their game just because I find it 'problematic.' I just won't buy it.

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>>380582218
wat

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>>380580691
But it's all of these people that were wrong, not the Jews.

Trying to pretend history never happened is foolish.

The holocaust happened, deal with it.

>>380582218
>>380582469
>>380582525
prove the holocaust happened retard

>>380582340
You think that's bad? The Turks commited the Armenian, Greek and Assyrian genocides at the same time and never got the flak they deserve, although the Armenian genocide is more known thanks to diaspora Armenians

>>380582591
Well, it's more evidence than what the allies presented I guess.

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>>380582591
here's your proof.

>>380576660
They should be whatever the director wants them to be.

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>>380576660
>never forget the 6 gozilllion killed by evil... blacks?

>>380577435
>>380577586
so do you bring this up at parties, or...

>>380576660
It shouldn't HAVE to be either, devs should be able to do whatever the fuck they want. Sledgehammer acknowledged that they don't give a fuck about historical accuracy for the multiplayer, they made it so you create your character and then whatever team they're on is randomized.

And fucking come on, this is CoD we're talking about, it's an arcade shooter, not a war documentary.

>>380582340
How do you think jews have so much power these days? It's due to the constant bitching and reminding whites every time they refuse to get ass raped by them
>you don't want those immgrants?
>DON'T YOU REMEBER JEWISH IMMGRATNS THAT FLED NAZI GERMANY YOU FUCKING ANTI SEMITE?! NOW THAKE THOSE FUCKING 6 MILLION BROWN MEN NOW!

>>380582608
They also enslaved the peoples of the Balkans for 500 years, but you never hear about it, meanwhile muh blacks bitch and moan endlessly about less than half that.

>>380578782
It never happened but it should happen again.

will there be black jews

>>380582656

>the starting point of any historical examination of the holocaust is "it happened"

well that settles it

>>380582693
Wait, I thought this was about jews getting killed, not white people?

>>380582656
>one should not ask how it's possible to burn 100 times as many bodies as it's possible to burn with a dozen cremation ovens running 24/7 because it definitely happened
t. me

please refer to this post
>>380582218

>>380582708
>shows evidence to support his claim
>oppostie side tries to act like it's nothing despite getting analy rekted and proved wrong
Typical kike lover, when somebody posts actuall evidence it's all
>hahaha yeah cool hahahah alright, do you go to parties with that hahahaha

>>380576660
>jews showing their past

i don't really see anything wrong.

>>380582591
I don't give a single fuck about the holocaust, I was just commenting on that webm

>>380576660
If they wanted to present the holocaust based on factual evidence then they would have nothing to show.

>>380582656
>holocaust happened becasue i said so, this is more than enough proof
nothing like Schlomo with his proofs.

>>380581914
I just instantly skip those. Also, there's an option to receive ReCaptcha 1.0 (typing in words) in 4chanX, I think native extension has an option like that too.

>>380582708
Yes. It feels wonderful to not live in a country that cares about jews or nonwhites. People casually joke about how minorities need to get murdered.

>>380577821
Shooting them and mass burying them did happen. Claiming that 6 million were gassed and furnaced is just jewish lies, literally this time.

>>380582764
Of course not goy. Neither will there be black or female nazis in the concentration camps.

>>380582728
The sad thing is that they were actually held back for centuries because they were already advanced enough before, especially Greeks, while the rest of Europe was progressing unlike the niggers who bitch about da bul whitey keeping them down.

What needs to be understood about the holocaust is that most of the victims were shot and buried at the scene, not gassed and cremated in camps.

DEATH TO ISRAEL

>>380582608
>they deserve

But the awkward yet true be-all-end-all to this is that humans have been genociding eachother since the dawn of fucking time, and it won't stop anytime soon. The weird thing about the Holocaust is just the endless, ENDLESS bitching that is mind-boggling when looked at objectively. 6 million is such a nothing statistic when compared to multiple other genocides even in the last 100 years, hell it isn't even the most RECENT genocide since even the whole Hutu/Tutsi thing. Yet somehow this one genocide has gotten and held such disproportionate attention and sympathy for nearly 80 years now, and people STILL tiptoe around it and treat it like the worst event in human history.

The focused, laser-guided complaining and whining it must have taken and still takes to keep this thing relevant must have a power that rivals a dyson sphere at this point.

>>380582928
Ironically enough, after being liberated, most of those countries STILL have a higher HDI than Turkey and better human rights. I guess all people just aren't created equal.

>>380578406
Hahah son, the allies were aware, just not the soldiers

>>380580691
>that's what modern nazis believe.
And NKVD officers were not mostly jewish since 1918.
Not to mention that stalin purged most of non-russians from NKVD back in 1937.
And not to mention that nazi collaborationists are still nazis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T99mBgs_H7M

>>380576660
Is it going to be DLC? I would assume so based on the subject matter.

>>380582850

no, the premise is literally "the holocaust happened because IT DID" not even because he said so, just because IT DID

>>380576660
As a German, I'll likely hate CoDWWII if it really goes for the stupid pandering bullshit it seems to go for.


Although depicting the Holocaust sounds funny af. I'd love to see an accurate depiction of people like Hermine Braunsteiner, and how SJWs would try to somehow bend reality to make that sexist in some way.

>>380581574
Third-generation Holocaust?

>>380583017
This. Every balkan country expect albania and kosovo(coincidence?) is more developed than turkey.

>>380576790
second post best post
0 replies
kek

>>380582973
None of the other genocides are being used to justify the existence of an ethnostate. Why do you think the the gays aren't constantly going on about the holocaust?

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>>380576660
>(((The))) (((H)))olocaust

gg

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>>380583194

>>380576660
a game should provide good gameplay first and foremost
too bad CoD will never deliver that

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>>380577256

History isn't written by the victors. It's written by the losers who can maintain their asshurt long after the winners stop caring.

See also: "Lost Cause" and "Dolchstoßlegende"

>>380583098
As in a German currently in Germany?

Completely sidetracking here, but a couple questions; one, how far do you have to go in terms of speaking/posting about the holocaust before you get fined or arrested for it there, and two, is the lack of swastikas/nazi imagery allowed in German media really as insane as I hear it is?

>>380576660
Is Bobby Kotick still in charge?

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>>380583250

>>380582973
I agree personally, the past is the past but if you're going to bitch about one specific genocide then you should hold others on the same standard as well, otherwise this feels completely wrong because you're just capitalising on it.

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>>380582891

>>380583110
It's like "no gaems" meme, every gen has it

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>>380583329

>>380583278
>is the lack of swastikas/nazi imagery allowed in German media really as insane as I hear it is?
Art can have swastikas just fine, and public use depends more on intent than anything. It's just games that get in trouble, because they're not considered art.

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>>380583373

>>380583076
No, he didn't. And Stalin wasn't even russian himself.

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>>380583427

>>380582853
Why do they never fucking let me properly click on a street sign? should I click the base? the pole? the sign itself? No matter what I do It's just like OOOOHHHHH WAIIT A MINUTE LET ME JUST SEE YOU DO ANOTHER ONE JUST TO MAKE SURE

>>380583384
Wait what even? Are they allowed in Film as well then or on TV without issue, but literally just games can't show them?

>>380576660
>depict the holocaust
Yet there are black nazis and flags are censored to be A FUCKING IRON CROSS. Top fucking lel.

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>>380583473

>>380583345
>>380583329
>>380583373
this is bullshit MODERN ovens need about 6 hours to burn ONE BODY, you hear me MODERN. back in wwii ovens were even weaker so burning one body would take even more. I remeber some anon doing calculations, in order for 6 million to actually be killed (and we're talking about only jews not to metnion Poles, gypsies, ukraininas etc) Auschwitz would have to be working 24/7 since the 1st day of war, september 1st 1939.

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>>380583532

>>380583202
You know what's funny? The Assyrians wre promised their own nation as well because they were being genocided and in the end they never got it.

>>380583476
I usually click signs. I think sign captchas are considered so simple you almost always have to do them twice. It's the ones that have signs but ask you to click on vehicles that get me every time.

I'm fine with either, but don't get mad when I don't take your fictional changes seriously

>>380583489
Film and TV can have swastikas no problem as they're considered art. Game aren't.

>>380583537
What do you think those ovens ran on anon?

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REMINDER ITS ILLEGAL TO DENY HOLOCAUST IN EUROPE!
TRUTH DOESNT NEED PROTECTION!

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>>380583537

>>380583571
quick post the new york times fake news about the holocaust

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>>380583624
didn't mean to quote

>>380582340
>>Ukrainians never bring Holodomor up and nobody on earth even remembers it

Are you kidding? They're not having a war with Russia right now because they don't remember the Holodomor, and every fucking neo-nazi on the planet can't help screaming "STALIN STARVED 20 TRILLION" whenever someone implies that the Nazis might not have been the heroes we deserved.

>>380583537
probably because modern cremation is a highly ritualistic procedure, not only burning ONE body at a time, but also requiring complete cooling down to clean after every operation

>>380583623
It's not illegal to deny the Holocaust in my European country.
It's only illegal to clamor or call for the genocide of some group of people.
So I can say "the holocaust didn't happen" and it's all fine but if I say "the holocaust should happen" then I can be in trouble.

Yep.Especially if take on Company of heroes 2 route .

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>>380583697

>>380579097
It's like a 5 year old wrote it. Who comes up with these retarded ideas?

is there any place that i can find actual facts about the holocaust and be 100% sure they are accurate?
everywhere i look everything is so inconsistent, or seems biased to one side or the other
ive seen stories where the men and women are split up from the arrival and the women are all gassed immediately while the men get sent to work
how can that be, when there are also stories about women surviving the concentration camps?

>some kikes/leftist say the the holocaust is real and people are just anti semitics
>anons proceeded to bomb him with evidence suggesting 6 millions aren't real numbers
I love this site, every where else on the intenret everybody here would be banned, called racist, down voted but here you can actually tell your opinon
>>380583792
if you want to burn more bodies you need more energy you tard. If you put more bodies in the ovens that were in WWII it would take even longer to turn them into jew bacon this is why on every photo you can see those ovens being made for one person.

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>>380583919

>>380583750
>russian
It's the jews not russians.
Bolshevick party was mostly jews.

>>380583652
The ones that are all talking about the number of Jews in Russia?

>>380583885
Jews and then they force it down your thorats and our children. How do you think modern generation got raised? Deny or question the holocaust in school and you're sent to principal.
>>380583979
Almost all original commies were russian jews, including the ones that tried to instal communism in germany (german jews but still jews).

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>>380583979
The "Jewish Bolshevik" is overblown for propaganda reasons. Take a gander at any list of CPSU delegates for the Central Committee by nationality. Proportionally to their population levels Jews are behind Latvians, Estonians, Lithuanians, Finns, POLES and Ossetians in their representation among the ruling caste of the Bolshevik party.
Of course, talking about the "Latvian Bolshevik" doesn't advance the narrative, so people conveniently ignore this.

>>380583618
jet fuel

>>380584040
it's a collage ((((NYT))) headlines about the hall of cost

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>>380583918
Fuck off, kike.
Daily reminder that the whole point of Nazism was to expand the borders of (((Germany))) by massacring and enslaving white Christian nations and taking their land - just as the Torah commands!
Not only did Nazi leaders have Jew names, they natively spoke a dialect closely related to Yiddish.

>>380579415
>Masturbation
Are you dumb? We need to produce for Soldiers for the empire!

>>380576660
Yes, to both. Honestly, they both work. Some games work when they're historically accurate. Some work when they take artistic licenses. As long as the end result is an enjoyable experience, it's cool.

The fact that CoD WW2 will depict the holocaust makes we wanna play it. Not many games do that.

>>380584097
What the fuck is the hall of cost?

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>this one anon going berserk

I gotta save some of these pics, this is prime nuclear bomb material for any WW2 thread

>>380583979
What the fuck ever. The point is the Ukrainians blame the Russians for the Holodomor and hate them for it, they haven't "forgotten" it.

>>380584271
Different anon. Ukrainians can get gassed for all I care.

>>380584308
are you a jew?

>>380576892
Yeah, the holocaust should be accurate. It's a recent event, as in not hundreds of years old, and the aftermath still has an effect on us (see: Israel). And since many triple A won't touch this topic, it should be accurate. After that, you can play around with it.

>>380582075

why am i laughing like a maniac?

>>380584064

what? that list proves that jewish overrepresentatioin in the bolshevik party was HUGE

do you not realize that jews were less than 1% of the global population in 1900, and yet they comprised more than 5% of the bolshevik party?

that's a HUGE overrepresentation

>>380584348
Polish

>>380584431
AIPAC is a mistake

>>380584489
genuine question, why do you hate the ukrainians? I thought it was the Russians, then the Germans, and then the Russians again who beat you guys up for ages.

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>>380584431
t. scatvian bolshie

>>380582591
I-iiit was just Typhus, honest!!!

Only /v/ would deny the holocaust and the issues the Jewish population faced during it.

>>380584597
Something something
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

Basicaly working with Nazis, Ukrainian fucks were murdering people in ways not even Red Army could imagine.

>>380584431
What a pathetic attempt at backpedalling.
Even for a /pol/yp.

>>380584431
Look at the "numbers per 1000 population." Back then the Jews in Russia outnumber the Liatvians, Poles, etc. so that even with 19k Jews in the Communist party, only 7 in a thousand were diehard Commies, while 9512 Latvians meant that nearly 1 in 10 Latvians in Russia were Commies. Or, in other words, Jews were proportionately *less* likely to be Commies than several other groups, and only a small minority of Jews could be said to be blamed for communism.

>>380576660
Both. That question doesn't make any fucking sense.

Should movies only be funny and never scary?

Should books only ever be profound and not entertaining?

Fuck you.

>>380584258
there's two
from both sides

>>380576660
The creators should do what they want. If they think accuracy is for their game, do it; if they want to warp history for the sake of the gameplay, do that.

Making all art work by the same realism rules is fucking stupid. Even when movies get judged for being inaccurate, it's usually a piece of a bigger criticism or that it tries claiming one and doing the other. Here, it's arguing which is better for shit that doesn't exist yet.

>>380584874
t. kikecuckshill

>>380584752
Shit, that's awful. I guess I see where you're coming from.

>>380584972
so, uh, what was the problem with my math?

I hate americans. Its always them

>>380576660
>signs a game was funded by jews
The victim status, it must continue!

>>380585097
it's kike math, kike

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>>380584258
>Charlesposting branching out to other boards

>>380577843
They confirmed the singleplayer will have swastikas in every country except Germany.
Multiplayer has crosses in every country.

I wonder why they can't just make it so german games display crosses and everybody elses displays swastikas, like how in some James Bond game multiplayer you are always James Bond and everybody else looks like soldier while for another player it looks like he is James Bond and you are a soldier.

>>380583278
>How far for fines?
If nobody knows I did it, nothing happens. You joke about it with friends if that's what you're into, but in public, you mostly don't talk about it, less due to the law, but just advocating for free speech of people with disagreeable opinions turns people off and being just a millimeter too far right leads to social rejection.
You just don't talk about it unless it's to virtue signal how bad you feel about being German.

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>>380585202

why the fuck there are so many literal stormfronters in this website?

>>380584993
I hate Russians less, they are still cunts but nice guys to drink vodka with.
Germany won't be Germany soon so I don't care about them.

>>380585356
They started their colonization efforts sooner than leddit, and thus were more successful.

>>380576660
DONT FORGE ABOUT THE 90 GAZILLION GOYIM

>>380585356
4chan is all about counter-culture, unfortunately even the shitty ones like >>>/mlp/ >>>/jp/ >>>/r9k/ >>>/trash/

>>380577160
I'm a fairly big WWII buff, and I've read loads of books and seen even more documentaries; for some reason the war and the Holocaust always seem really detached from each other.
I can't even seem to think of any first hand account that focuses on something other than the Holocaust that mention it in any form of capacity.

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I don't see anything wrong with a holocaust scene. I wouldnt mind a scene similar to the execution scene in Modern warfare 1 :)!

>>380577435
OH it was just Typhus, okay...

>>380585356
>>380585443
>>380585564
I find myself really wishing white heteronormative males were the dominant force again so we could go back to being middle left wing indifferent around here

>>380585506
HAVE TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF DEAD JEWS
MORE HOLOCAUST SIMULATORS SOON IN VR

>>380585356
>so many

Believe it or not there's less Stormweiners today than a few years ago, The_Donald replaced most of them.

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>>380576660
It depends on the game, Call of Duty has always (whenever depicting real events) tried to stay superficially true to that event, they don't always succeed but it's at least their baseline aim, "authentic" I think is a word they usually use, which makes sense because if you are going to set a game in a certain event...it has to look like that event as much as possible otherwise what's the point?
So now enters creative license, especially in the multi player of cod, there are tons of things that happen that are ridiculous but there's always a limit to how far you can push it so that the feeling of fighting in the setting of the game isn't essentially ruined and in all honesty I think putting every colour under the rainbow and female american/nazi soldiers is approaching or going over that limit, I don't think chipping away at the authenticity of the game just to have a few extra customization options is a worthwhile trade off, you set your game in WW2 in a non tongue in cheek manner and there's certain things it's not worth doing.

>>380585804
I'd rather have the stormies, tbqh.

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>>380585693

>>380585861
Same, redditors take everything way too seriously.

>>380585356
>why there are so many people that disagree with me?!
boo hoo faggot

>>380579907
How do you die through masturbation machines?

>>380579097
Reminds me of that SexualLobster animation about Schindler's List The Ride

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>>380586049
lol shut up, /pol/

>>380586206
>there are people that have different opinoin than me?!
>FUUUCKIINNGGGGGGG /POOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL/

>>380586293
fuck off kike