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Beyond Good & Evil 2 to take the early access approach.

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" In the behind-closed-doors presentation I was given, series creator Michel Ancel showcased the sum total of three years of work: an engine that serves as the foundation of an ambitious open-world galaxy filled with unique characters and personal stories.

According to Ancel, development is still very much at day zero, so all they have is a vast but barren world and a floating spaceship so large that it houses another ship in it, which you can fly if you're so inclined.

Development on the game itself has barely started. With the tech in place, the team is just starting to think about writing characters and narratives. Which begs the question: why show a game that, in many ways, doesn't exist? The answer to this muddied my understanding of what Beyond Good & Evil 2 was and ultimately left me questioning whether it's the follow-up that passionate Beyond Good & Evil 2 fans have been clamouring for."
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"We could have presented this game with a completely playable demonstration, but we had this idea to show it now because we want to let people see how we are going to build the game. The steps before this are not very interesting, [they're] very technical, but now we can explain how we are building the world. We want to build prototypes and let people download and play them so they can test them.

"And you can play online, so for example we expect to make prototypes of different modules in the game, let people play, give feedback, and they can even build their own ship since we have this very flexible customisation system. You can even create your faction or gang with colours and these things and share them. We want people to participate, and our dream would be to come back in one year with all this absolutely playable and polished in a demonstration. We'd love to have people have that feeling that they're helping and participating in making this possible."

The Space Monkey Program, as it's officially known, is Ubisoft's "way of inviting passionate members of the community to be the first to play, to share ideas and inspirations, and to crash test all of the creative and gameplay elements that make up [Beyond Good & Evil 2's] game world: as early and as often as possible."

The early-access esque approach to development, the online aspects of the game, and the fact that players create a character instead of having one crafted by the developers has left me more concerned about Beyond Good & Evil 2 than excited. "

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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/beyond-good-and-evil-2-sounds-ambitious-but-not-th/1100-6450959/

Thoughts?
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It just keeps getting better and better.
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western gaming is fucking dead
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Honestly I am starting to get worried. This sounds a lot like Star Citizen. Also 3 years working on it and barely have anything? This is never coming out.
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>>380541112
>development is still very much at day zero

Did they seriously spent more time on making a e3 trailer than the actual game???
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>>380541996
It reminds me of Megaman Legends 3. Has me worried that if at any moment the higher ups say "not enough people are participating in the forums" or some other bullshit, it'll just be cancelled.
>>380542242
Well, at least concept art stage work was done. The actual trailer was probably just done by a studio they hired.

So wait, is there even a main character to this shit? Was monkey and afro gril just "example" characters? I might pay attention if you get to make your own characters.
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>>380542242
Sounds like they spent 3 years making a new engine just for this game. That means it will take like 3 or 4 more years making the actual game. It will probably get delayed too and moved to Playstation 5.
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a new dev video just got uploaded if anyone's interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Icol1VT_pw
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>>380542529
Good. I hope this piece of trash gets canceled and the entire development team commits mass suicide.
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>>380542892
hi /pol/
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>>380541112
Goddammit that sounds fucking awful, I'm mad now. Why even show such an elaborate cinematic if the game has barely even started development? There's no way Ancel is happy with this, Ubisoft must have forced him into this bullshit. This game is going to be a disaster.
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>>380542529
>Has me worried that if at any moment the higher ups say "not enough people are participating in the forums" or some other bullshit, it'll just be cancelled.

Please no. This is the closest thing I have for my dream Treasure Planet game.
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>>380541112
damn this really killed my hype
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but why is it online?
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>game is about chimera slaves who are oppressed and restricted to upper society from which they hepled built
wow, that sounds pretty familiar but i just cant put my finger on it.
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>>380541112
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>Development hasn't even really started yet

...Then why even make this game? Even if you're a fan of BGE, can you honestly say this game wouldn't most likely be a financial blunder?
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Why sink all that money into a big budget cinematic if they aren't even going to throw full support behind this game?
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>>380541112
>AAA publishers are using the early access model
truly we are living in gaming hell
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Your liberal girlfriend look at you and say
>This year E3 was superb! Ubisoft was super cool and literally one of the best conferences I've ever seen in my life, I'm so excited for all the games
what do you say?
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>>380543765
check myself into a hospital because im obviously in a fever shock.
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So basically what they did was make a bunch of random shit and slapped an old name on it.
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>>380542778
Looks and sounds nothing like the first game. Dont know why they are using the name. Create your own character, gang, spaceship, open galaxy. This is more like an mmo.
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http://m.ign.com/articles/2017/04/26/former-activision-parent-company-could-own-ubisoft-by-the-end-of-this-year

This game is dead, Vivendi will see it as a waste of resources
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>>380543765
please stop spamming your political bullshit, no one cares, there's much more important things to be discussing

to be clear i'm talking to you, not "her"
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>>380543765
Turn 360 degrees and walk away.
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>>380541671
Came here to say exactly this.
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>>380543741
>AAA developer announced a game that will be released in 3~4 years because For Honor, Wildlands, The Division, Steep and Assassins Creed Unity were a failure
we are really living in the great times. Ubisoft will die in our lifetime
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>>380541112
What the heck is this director doing all these years? Is this some French labor law trick? How do I get his job so I can do years of loafing around without producing anything?
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>weve developed a breathrough technology that lets us go from an inside space (city) to going to another planet

Oh boy its No Man's Pirate.
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>>380543959
>Unity
>not that steaming turd Syndicate
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I'd honestly just take a simple sequel that innovates on nothing or isn't this ridiculously ambitious and just continues the story and polishes a handful of dated things from the original game's gameplay, preferably the stealth, just a straight forward sequel.
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>>380543959
i am pretty sure that every single one of them made a shit ton of money. except steep maybe.
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>>380541346
>The early-access esque approach to development, the online aspects of the game, and the fact that players create a character instead of having one crafted by the developers has left me more concerned about Beyond Good & Evil 2 than excited.
Exactly how I'm feeling too. I agree that the BGE universe is very interesting and a game like this where you could fully focus on exploring it would be cool but if you're making a sequel to the first game then, as a fan, I'd like that sequel to be a continuation of the story.

>it's a prequel
Also deserving of a big fat 'why?'.

14 years later and we finally get confirmation of a sequel and the happiness is immediately followed by concern. Not a good feeling at all.
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>According to Ancel, development is still very much at day zero
>And you can play online, so for example we expect to make prototypes of different modules in the game
>The early-access esque approach to development
It's worse than I expected. The ''trailer'' they showed is nothing but a third party CGI
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>big publishers are doing Early Access now

Oh what naive summer children we all were 10 years ago when everyone said, "OH MAN I'D TOTALLY PAY TO PLAY THE GAME RIGHT NOW EVEN IF IT'S IN ALPHA"

Now AAA publishers can release buggy, unfinished games and collect their shekels without every bothering to actually finish games.
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>>380541112
>Single player action adventure game
>Now turned into this shit
>Also early access

What the fuck.
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>>380541112
Sounds to me like he Michel wants to put it in positions that make it harder for the company to shut the game down mid development.
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>>380543891
They will cancel it or rush it into a more simplistic game. Right now it sounds way too big and ambitious.
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>>380543890
Names sell, it's all corporations care about in old IP's.
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>>380544126
Syndicate sold well despite being a total mess.
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>>380541112
>Beyond Good & Evil 2 to take the early access approach

It was a subhuman libshit trash show to begin with, but this ends it.
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>>380544194
>just a straight forward sequel.
If only gaming were still that simple.
Now everyone wants to make their own super ambitious universe sim, except have it in eternal """""beta"""""
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>>380544050
he did the Rayman ubi-art games
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>>380544363
>total mess
you mean Unity
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>>380544263
>>380544270
>still expecting western devs such as Ubisoft and EA not to be ultra jews
>still free marketing their games
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>>380541112
Fuck Valve. They started this whole early access shit. They also mainstreamed loot boxes and micro transactions. Literal cancer company and they get a free pass. Fuck them for plaguing gaming.
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>>380544469
yep Unity. Syndicate was somehow decent and sold poorly.
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[swears repeatedly in british ape speak]
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>>380541112
Aw dont do that. Goddamn it
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>>380541112
If that picture had a smell, it would be terrible.
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>finally get BG&E2
>it's liberal progressive shit
>"early access"
Man what a time to be alive
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>>380543959
Funnily enough, each of those games (maybe not Steep) sold plenty. Wildlands has been in the top ten for PS4 and PC for more than a month now, I think. That's not saying that they're good games, just that they sold well in spite of their flaws.
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>>380543428
>It is a time when evil white men make hybrids in their labs, and enslave them to colonize the stars.

What did she mean by this?
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>>380544502
>not being grateful to Valve for accelerating the death of Ubisoft/Biojew/EA/etc
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>>380544469
No, he means Syndicate.
>worst combat in the series
>grappling hook
>extremely limited weapon selection
>terrible characters and writing
>SJW shit everywhere
>the DLC somehow manages to be terrible, too
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>>380544502
It actually started with Beth's laziness and horse armor.

Valve and other companies just decided to stretch them to their limits.
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>>380544589
Consider suicide, shitter.
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>>380544723
>slaves are chimera abominations
liberals are amazing
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>>380544789
Were Beth even the first to do jew DLC like that?
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>>380544712
>sold plenty.
even if that is true (we must not forget The Division was 40% off a few months later and just like For Honor was 30% off 1 month later) we must remember they spend 40~100 million in marketing for each game. They not only need 5 million sales but DLC money.
>>380544758
syndicate is the worst AC game I agree
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>YOU CAN DO ANYTHING™®© meme game
I rather have the idea of a possible sequel that never arrives than this fate for beyond 2.
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>>380544758
nope
I'll give you the combat though.
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>more massive empty worlds to "explore"

I miss linear games.
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I trust Michel Ansel
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>>380541112
Donate 100 dollars now and get early access to our 3 year alpha.
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You think they could have made that fucking ape more of a rip off from the one in Sing.
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>>380541112
>>380541346
>We want to build prototypes and let people download and play them so they can test them.
Sounds a lot like Star Citizen
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>>380546740
What? They're nothing alike. They're not even the same species. Do you really think Illumination invented non-human primates with British accents? Stop being retarded.
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Which one is the monkey? The dude with lots of fur or the chick with lots of hair?
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>>380542778
>>380544723
>China and India create human-animal slave hybrids
>China and India
Why do this? I mean aside from the obvious "slaves in the vision of gods/WE WUZ GODS" bit, but why chain the series to earth at all? I guess I just hate the semi-"realistic" approach with this game compared to the first, I forget if BG&E1 even mentions earth at all.

I can only imagine this game dying or being forgotten before it even comes out at this rate, but we'll see.
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>>380545264
t. libtard from Bongland
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>Beyond Good & Evil 2
Am I missing out if I haven't played the first one?
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>>380541112
>According to Ancel, development is still very much at day zero

Why do these companies keep doing this shit? Why announce a game that's not even well into development and has absolutely no foreseeable release date or path to a release date? Square Enix is probably the absolute worst about it but this is has got to be up there.
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>>380548203
there is no monkey, racist fuck
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>>380548762
it will probably have zero relation to the first considering its a prequel
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This has fucking nothing to do with Beyond Good and Evil. Where's Jade? Where's Peyj? Why is the game all stupid and edgy? Why is there so much swearing?
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>>380548762
Yes. It's an unappreciated gem if there ever was one.

But if you're asking "Should I play it in preparation for this sequel?" I wouldn't worry about it because from the look of it the connections are going to be slim to none.
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>>380549101
Yeah seriously what do they have against monkeys?
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Square Enix tier bullshit
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>>380541112
>been in development hell for over a decade
>completely scrapped and restarted with a completely different concept and story and cast of characters at least three times
>screenshots and story snippets from a game sharing the title that no longer exists
>super epic over the top no expense spared trailer that's unrepresentative of the actual game as the final product hasn't even been started yet

It's literally Final Fantasy XV all over again.
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>>380541346
Sounds really ambitious, which I'm worries me. But if they can pull what they're saying off, then it sounds like it'll be pretty good.
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They seriously need to stop announcing games so early
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>>380549204
All scrapped. Bg&E2 is now an early access mmo.
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Oh look /v/ is complaining about a game that isn't even close to being out yet again
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>>380549204
>This has fucking nothing to do with Beyond Good and Evil.

Yes it does. It's a prequel to the original game set in the same universe.

>Where's Jade? Where's Peyj?

It's a prequel taking place several years before the first game, before Jade was even born.

>Why is the game all stupid and edgy? Why is there so much swearing?

Because it's been 15 years and literally everyone who played the original game is in their mid-20s to early 40s. Literally the only reason it's even being made is because of the dedicated cult following it's maintained all these years so they're trying to grow the game up with the audience. It's an interesting approach that may or may not work.
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>BG&2 will be a prequel
>BG&2 will be made by modern Ubisoft
>BG&2 will be online
>BG&2 will have multiplayer
>BG&2 video uses words like "diverse" and "multicutural"
>BG&2 trailer has gratuitous amounts of swearing and explosions like it was directed by Michael Bay
>"Day zero of development"
>"Early access"
This game's going to suck isn't it?
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>>380550304
>This game's going to suck isn't it?

Maybe. Maybe not.

Although if your standards are like the rest of /v/'s then yes, it will suck, because there's literally nothing they could do to make it good.
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>>380541112
Woah, three black people in one picture, truly gaming is now diverse
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>>380550570
What an original joke.
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>>380550748
Thanks senpai, took me about 0.02 nano seconds to think of such a riveting, heart felt, original, and knee slapping worthy joke
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>>380550257
>grow the game up with the audience
You say that, but the presentation looks like it is targeting a 15 year old crowd, not the same crowd + 15 years
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>>380541112
>earliest access
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>>380551224
Seconded. I'm 34, I first played BGE when I was 19. What they showed was fucking terrible and sucked all my enthusiasm away. Forced humor with bad overly emotive CG is for kids, not adults.
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>>380548762
You should just play it for the sake of playing it. Also I don't know why you would be interested in playing an early access Ubisoft game if you had zero investment in the IP.
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>>380551306
Their conference was supposed to be a satire, not a warning of things to come.
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>prequel
>you create your own character
>early access
>open world
There is literally nothing redeeming about this
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>>380541112
Couldn't believe this at first. So fucking retarded that they just make some CGI film promoting this game that they haven't even started work on

I have faith in Ancel, but goddamn
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>>380550304
yep this is fucked. ps5 launch title for sure at this rate, taking bets, any takers?
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>>380541112
>dig up dead 15 year old game
>put a bullet in it's skull for no reason

Actually why? not only is Ubisoft striking while the iron is cold as ice, not only are all the people who have fond memories of this game all grown up with a healthy hatred of Ubisoft, not only did the first sentence about this game go full SJW for no reason, not only does it have absolutely nothing to do with the first game which ALL-FUCKING-READY ended on a cliff hanger, but normies and journalists also don't give a shit. Why would they even bother? Who is this for?
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>>380541112
This stinks.
So basically it's going to be like Might No. 9 then?
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>>380543765
my wife is a black conservative.
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>>380552910
At least Mighty came out. I dont think this will ever be completed. 3 years and still at 0%. Unreal.
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>>380541112
>>380541346
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT.
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>>380541112
>development is still very much at day zero
IT'S STAR CITIZEN COMBINED WITH DUKE NUKEM FOREVER

THE ULTIMATE IN VAPOURWARE TECHNOLOGY

YOU HAVEN'T EVEN BEGUN TO SEE SHILLING
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>>380543765
shoot myself in the face because i dont remember asking out some 3D roastie whore
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>>380541112
>>380541346
I TOLD you niggers this wasn't BG&E2, and instead was some completely different game that suits had hijacked and put a name on. I WARNED YOU BRO.
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>>380550304
Think of it like KH were there's a dozen different prequels, cash grabs and decimal points til' the eventual true 'sequel'.
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This is like when all those cult comedies got sequels years later and they all sucked balls.

Moral of the story is don't let your nostalgia be manipulated by idiots, if there's a sequel you've been waiting on for years now is the time to let it go because this industry will destroy it if they think you'll buy it anyway
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>>380541112
So, It's going to either suck or never come out. So glad I waited so long for a "sequel".
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>You guys remember that old game you love that ended on a cliff-hanger?
>Here's a prequel early access MMO that has nothing to do with the characters or story you like, enjoy
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>>380554531
Don't forget the shoe-horned diversity and multicuturalism and PAY DAT REPARATIONS FO SLAY-BURY AN SHEEIT CRACKAZ
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>>380554531
God damn it. It hurts.
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>>380543536
monetization

online means they can sell microtransactions
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>>380553430
Do BGE fans really deserve this treatment?
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>>380554531
I don't know what the fuck Ubisoft's problem is, but they've been way more obnoxious these past few months. Like, I used to not think much about them. But now I just fucking hate Ubisoft and wish they would go away.
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>>380553430
>no progress made since 2009 despite all the teasers

ffxv part 2
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Why the fuck did you faggots wish for a revival to Beyond Good and Evil? What have you done?!
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>>380555250
Tabata will end up finishing this one too.
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So when the game doesn't sell because it's bad, will the excuse be that we're all racists?
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>>380552910
While MN9 had demos I wouldn't call it an early access game. Its problem was just good old fashioned incompetence and poor money management.
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>>380555491
monkey paw led to space monkeys, it's like poetry
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>>380556036
Nah the excuse will be that BGE isn't a lucrative IP so it either needs to be buried or rebooted. It's too late anon, we can't win no matter what we do.
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https://youtu.be/YqG9epNlRMw

>China, India
>these realistic designs

Fucking why?
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How do Star Citizen shitters feel knowing that Ancel spent 3 years working like a normal person to get his galaxy powering engine running without asking for $150 million and it looks more fun?
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>>380556874
Honestly when I think of BG&E I don't think
>whoa ten million huge planets you can do anything and go anywhere!
I think of a charming action-adventure game with anthropomorphic aliens where you take pictures and fight the power. This is far too ambitious and I really can't imagine any scenario where it succeeds, especially when it uses an early access business model.
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>>380542892
I don't care if this game is trash, as long as it triggers /pol/ I'm gonna buy myself copies.
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>>380542529
>Has me worried that if at any moment the higher ups say "not enough people are participating in the forums" or some other bullshit
But Inafune left before the cancellation happened. And is the reason the cancellation had to happen when they lost their director
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>>380557160
Most games these days trigger /pol/, you're gonna run out of money soon anon.
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>>380557143
This. It's very clear this was a completly different project that was an original IP that just got rebranded to BG&E

Shame, I would have liked it if it was it's own thing, I like the cyberpunk india aesthetic
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The difference between usual early access and what they seem to be doing here is that players don't have to pay $60 for a broken game that may never be fixed; it's done through free registration. Not defending this game, but it's the equivalent of janitors. I'm interested in how many fans have signed up and are ready to spam the forums with complaints as soon as possible. And how many are normies who never played the original game and just found that E3 trailer interesting.
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>>380557738
>The difference between usual early access and what they seem to be doing here is that players don't have to pay $60 for a broken game that may never be fixed

>pay $60 for a broken game that may never be fixed
>Ubisoft
It's not like they've done that repeatedly and brazenly the past few years.
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>>380553629
Not true. Read the old interviews. They scrapped it in '08 to wait for new technology. They wanna do space travel right.

Feel free to continue being a misinformed cunt, though. Spread those lies.
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>>380558323
>Feel free to continue being a misinformed cunt
None of that changes the fact that 1. The game shouldn't NEED space travel and 2. 15 FUCKING YEARS AND ALL THEY HAVE IS A BLUR STUDIOS TIER TRAILER
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>>380558415
In the original you look at the sky with your camera and see the labels for like a dozen galaxies.

Dumbass.
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>>380541112
>>380541346
ubisoft never fails to find new ways to disappoint
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>>380543765
I agree, loved it.
Can I mating press you?
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I just watched the dev video and there is some gameplay in there. Seems like they have at least No Man's Sky tier mechanics so far and jetpacks. Might be cool.

What I am wondering, is why they are letting us see what they have done so far
Are they actually going to take our input, would it actually be valuable to do so? Seems like they just want hypemen for free.
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>>380550453
This isn't a fucking meme mate, almost every single possible indicator of an incomplete/poor product is there
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I signed up for the "space monkey program" and am going to complain non-stop until they add an in-depth camera mechanic.
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>>380559207
Sure, buddy. Everything is shit.

You can clearly see passion and hard work, but it's shit. There's no hope it'll be good. The cinematic stays true to the original's art design, right down to the details. That doesn't matter, though. The game's garbage.
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>>380559319
Why do you need to shitpost elsewhere? Keep it on /v/. The SMP is chill right now.
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>>380559514
Because it's not a BG&E game without that camera.
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>>380559573
Oh. I get it. I wasn't sure what you meant.

Ancel confirmed cameras will be a thing.
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>>380559514
The forums are open?
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>>380554003
I did let it go. I was perfectly content with BGE being just a short and sweet love that I could appreciate for bring nothing more than it was.

I just don't understand why Ubi wants to antagonize fans even further by digging it up and fucking the bones on a live stream. Who are they trying to appeal to?
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>>380544263
>Now AAA publishers can release buggy, unfinished games
>now
Like Ubisoft was releasing quality, finished games to begin with
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>>380556260
It's already being rebooted on every way except name.
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