Metro Thread

Bought the Steam bundle for cheap the other day but still haven't gotten around to playing them

whats the difference between redux and original?

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>>380528563

Gonna take the chance,how in the fuck do you enable Vsync? Sceen tear in original 2033 makes my eyes bleed as I replay it.


>>380528748
Make sure to go Ranger Hardcore.

>>380528563
I've heard the gameplay of the Metro games is fucking terrible

>>380528563
What about Underrail?

>>380529064
The original is good and has great gameplay, Redux is shit and has awful gameplay

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>>380529836
>I've heard
Hans, prepare the gas chambers

>>380529836
its linear but most definitely not terrible.

>>380529836
Who the Fuck told you that? Disregard that opinion, trust me.

>>380529064
original = very very good but with some clunky mechanics from STALKER era
redux = pile of shit

>tfw there's an achievement for ranger easy AND ranger hardcore completions
why. also if i changed to ranger easy half way through the first mission, will i still get the cheevo

Did anyone else get the good end in Last Light without really trying? I needed a guide for it in 2033.

>>380530415
>>380530249
In what ways is the gameplay shit? I haven't played the original and really like Redux. What did I miss out on?

>>380530415
What changed, really? I thought it was just the graphics getting downgraded.

Anyway, is there a way to get last light original now, besides torrenting or scammy key sellers?

>>380529071
By clicking the vsync option in the options menu

If that dont work maybe try physx

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>>380528563
C-Can I talk about Metro?

>>380529064
people will complain about redux, but it's fine.

>>380530715
ok Fallout 2, but you can't use memes

>>380530594
>>380530646
Not the same anon, but the major one I remember is dumbing down the stealth significantly.

>>380530696
>try physx
Dont you mean nvidia inspector?

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>>380529064
On PC, Last Light has seen next to no changes whatsoever. 2033 is where the most radical changes are. The surface and several other underground areas had their style changed to match Last Light, and a few shorter levels designed with loading screens have been folded into larger, seamless levels. NPC appearances have changed as well to match the assets of Last Light. I don't know about any of the voices or the script. The last missions have been rebalanced to have more ammo.

The more drastic changes are to stealth, weapon handling (gun assets and handling are now in line with Last Light) and the mechanics for melee and throwables. You no longer equip the trench knife as a separate weapon and takedowns are back, including non-lethal ones, and throwable objects are also bound to a quick key as well. Stealth has been simplified to the visible/invisible light gem and enemies in general are very stupid.

If the original Last Light's Ranger Mode was any indication, Ranger Mode in either Redux game still means invisible QTE prompts along with some UI info still not being available when you bring up the journal.

>>380529064

redux is fine /v/ is super salty over them for some reason

i played original and redux and liked both versions

the game is mostly best for its immersion not the terrible stealth or horde shooting simulator anyways

I've only read the books, do I already know the ending ?

These games are ultimately brought down when they try to force the walking simulator aspects.

Why doesn't Gog carry the original version anyways?

>>380531103
>Terrible stealth
2033's stealth was its best merit

>>380530594
It's been a while for me but I remember getting really mad about not being able to equip throwing knifes as a weapon. Used to be stealthy as fuck, seeing how many throwing knifes I had in one hand and throwing them with the other. If my memory is correct, they fixed that in redux do say if I'm a retard though making it a single button for throwing knifes.

Also wrist watch was way better in original. Used to go from forum to forum trying to get that particular watch with the red, yellow and green light. I don't know why they changed it in redux, it was good enough in original.

Besides all that, I got the feeling redux took away a lot of the cosiness the original had.

>>380531282

sneaking past enemies wasn't nearly the best part of that game

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>>380531103
>terrible stealth
>not experiencing the terror of seeing a yellow light appear on your wrist whilst an enemy is watching you
>not watching out for broken glass or snuffing out candles so the enemy doesn't spot you
>not using throwing knifes or ball bearing cannons to eliminate enemies to reduce the noise

It's like you haven't even played the game anon

>>380531763
Throwing knives are broken. They were essentially infinite, silent instant kills.

>>380531237

2033 game ignored every good part in the books, the story line just made me mad

the ending is just dark ones are bad and artyom never learns about what they were trying to do

>>380531763

>AI spotting you for no reason
>throwing knives bounce off enemy and have to restart level
>follow predetermined path to be sneaky snek

the stealth wasn't fun at all

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>>380528563
I don't know how I feel about Metro. I loved 2033, (original, not redux) but the second one didn't grab me at all. And the trailer for the new one looks frankly mediocre. It's sad because I thought this series would fill the hole left by S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

All I can do is wait for GSC to get off their asses and develop S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 already, even though there's a high chance it won't be any good.

>>380531517
Getting a no kills run for the true ending definitely was the best part

>>380532081
That's what made it really rewarding to use. Being entirely useless out of stealth, the only way to really use them was when sneaking around avoiding patrols and taking out only those who prevented you from going on

>>380528563
okay, both redux games are on sale on PS4. Should I get them?

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>>380532332
I think you're confused with STALKER anon

Metro had none of those issues

>>380532081
Except with armored enemies, you had to aim at very specific joints between their armor, or else they would just bounce off.

>>380532507
See if you can get original metro before buying redux.

>>380532564

now i know you have no idea what you are talking about when did stalker have throwing knives?

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>>380532730
Metro 2033 truly was a game ahead of its time.

>>380532367

it was a good challenge for sure once you've played thru and already done the exploring

>>380528563
You guys think they'll do a bundle for the Switch of the older ones before they port over the new one?

>>380528563
>not being fallout/metro master race

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>>380533160
Shame Last Light had to come out and shit on everything

>>380532167
fuck

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>>380531293
If you play on survival mode you get the original watch.

>>380532167
>the ending is just dark ones are bad and artyom never learns about what they were trying to do
In the books or in the game? Cause in the game the true ending ain't that

>>380533160
I do think they could have been implemented a little better. The knives are instant kills no matter where you hit; you could aim a knife at their ankle and it would still work. I think they should have made the neck area the only instant kill joint on their body. So you would have to risk harder aiming in order to get a better kill.

>>380532081
I use throwing knives on monsters because I'm a Jew and don't want to use my Military rounds or Scrap rounds

And I charge up the Rail Gun and melee with it to also save ammo

>>380533475

the worst part is theres no mention of the demons or that slime shit under the government building or the feral clans, all the good shit

they kind whitewash the entire above ground lore with 'just mutants from a nuclear war'

>>380533809

aaaw shit, that goo under the Kremlin was really a scary stuff

>>380533654

is the true ending where he finally is spotted by the dark ones and given their knowledge right before the nukes land?

>>380533923

what did you think of his 2034 novel? it seemed so different than 2033

>>380533809
Wasn't there a clan who believed in the Giant Worm God who'd made all the metro tunnels by eating his way through the earth?

>>380534075
it wasn't that great if I remember well, but I like the whole work around the novel itself by the author and the fans to create a real universe. But for some reason I rememebr more the first one

>>380533567
Survival mode just got a lot better, thanks anon

>>380534131
Yes

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>>380528563
I started the original 2033 on Ranger hardcore yesterday, holy shit is this fun. I love that enemies are anti-bullet-sponges. Should I still be extra conservative with ammo? I don't remember it being THAT scarce in later levels and I have been scrounging for a lot of it, but I don't want to cuck myself later on.

>>380534131

yea they were cut off from the survivors for a long time and became cannibals

they say there are other tunnels below that are just holes in the rock and not man-made, it adds a whole different perspective on what caused the apocalypse

>>380530594
These anons are correct, >>380530415, >>380530249 the original is fucking god tier shooter mechanics. Reasons why the redux cucked it allaway:
>"QTE" takedowns instead of free aimable, equiptable knife
>worse AI
>only two visibility states (seen or not seen with a delay on detection so you can play peekaboo with no detection)
>terrible screenshake recoil instead of only armshake like in original
>less environmental traps in levels
>throwing knives ignore armor (bounce off in original)
>mutants have invincibility frames during some animations
>attachment system makes searching for weapons in levels pointless
>overall shitty animations and feeling of weapons
>ruining atmosphere with more lights in some levels and removal of volumetric fog in others
>lots of little details and TECHNOLOGY is gone

>>380534487
>original is fucking god tier shooter mechanics
It was clunky as shit and the stealth was inconsistent and sometimes bullshit

>>380534487
>>mutants have invincibility frames during some animations

that explains a lot

>always thought throwing knives only one shot to the head
>now finding they one shot anywhere

Wow I feel dumb

Is it true you can knock people out in the original 2033? I've tried and tried with the secondary attack on the knife and never got it to work.

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>>380534360
Kinda.

After the Nazi black station all you'll fight the rest of the game is mutants and apart from a ranger outpost you'll have nowhere to resupply for definite.

Still long as you can aim well you should be fine the only bullshit part will be the amoebas

>>380534750
>stealth was inconsistent and sometimes bullshit
I can confirm this. I think it was the level where Khan showed that I had to try over 30 times to get it right. I was occasionally insta-sighted and killed, running after sighting didn't help, you were basically fucked if you happened to breathe in the wrong direction, in the wrong position.
Felt awesome once I got it right though, and I was kind of a perfectionist, so any minor failure would make me reset. One of my favorite games.

>>380530897
>Got ranger mode perfect in the first game
>Do entirely worse and ruin it in the sequel
I'm still mad

>>380535090
best weapon

>>380534487

QTE takedowns are fine you had to stealth up behind the guy which is harder than using a throwing knife or silenced weapon

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>>380533930
got ya
1/3

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>>380535485
2/3

>last light redux steam page claims dlc adds 10 hours of extra content
>finish all the missions besides the tower and the stalker one
>only gave me 4 more hours of content

So am I supposed to just shit about in the tower now or something? Or did 4A just assume everyone was going to spend an hour in the developer level for an achievement?

>>380535262
>amoebas

man did redux make that level a walk in the fucking park, i let the AI do all the killing and barely did a thing

i remember original was rage inducing of extreme levels

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>>380535619
3/3

>>380535619

i loved that cause the whole theme of the first book was humanity was once again fucking themselves by faction fighting/politics/ideals and they nuke the only chance they have of surviving because of fear and ignorance

>>380535717
It's been a really long time. I definitely remember you having to protect an NPC from dying, and I do recall restarting a lot, because he would get killed, but I can't remember why. Was it low magazine capacity/long reload times on the rail gun?

>>380533930
It's most canon with the book tbqhwy, in the first part of the good ending where you learn about them you still have the option to wait for the bombs to fall, you don't have to walk up and kick it off

>>380536226

the original was just a harder level to deal with and lots of those ball things coming in

redux im pretty sure the NPC is immortal i saw the guy take a million balls to the face on non-ranger hardest difficulty, also seemed like they took out a few parts or removed ball spawners

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>>380536226
Well for me at least it's that they spawn nonstop if you don't destroy the pods that produce them. Also once they get within a certain range of you or Miller and get ready to explode they become unkillable.

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>>380529064
>thought i accrued enough moral points for good ending
>i didnt
fuck do i have to get every moral point or some shit

wait what ? there's a "good ending / bad ending" system using points ?

Thanks guys, you saved me a lot of time, I'll play something else.

>>380537304
You didn't strum enough guitars or smoke enough hookahs anon

>>380537604
Why even care, the "bad" ending is canon anyway for 2033.

>>380537604
aight cya

>>380537604

yea in this case it's pretty stupid considering its based on a book

If I'm planning on buying and modding the shit out of Stalker, what mods should I get to enhance the cheeki experience?

>>380537958

theres a million threads created about this go google it

>>380537958
Everything you need to know about that stuff is in the Stalker general on /vg/

>>380537836
>aight cya
More like "aight cyka"

I've heard mixed things about the stealth in 2033.

What are the pros and cons of it?

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I FOUND YOU LITTLE SHITS, SO THIS IS THE HIDE OUT FOR THE FAGGOTS WHO WON'T BUY MY GAME, HUH?

WELL, GUESS WHAT, I'M GOING TO BE KINDLY AND WILL GIVE YOU 1 MINUTE TO BUY MY FUCKING GAME PEOPLE, YOU DON'T WANT TO RUN WITH THE SAME DESTINY AS OBSIDIAN FAGS, AND DON'T TRY TO CHEAT ME YOU RUSSIAN SHITS

I remember dropping Last Light when there was some QTE section but the buttons didn't show up ever.

Later I found out that it was because I was playing on Ranger Survival or whatever, and there was no HUD whatsoever. Why the fuck would they make mandatory QTEs and then not show them in survival mode? How am I supposed to know what to press?

Uninstalled straight after.

>>380538206
Pros:
You literally kill humans in one hit if you use the throwing knife.
Throwing knives are effectively infinite.
You save bullets for use as currency in purchasing other items/upgraded weapons/stealth suit.
Cooler weapons in general, pneumatic, crossbow, etc.

Cons:
You die almost immediately upon sighting.
Less fun if you're a bitch ass tanky run-n-gunner
Slightly more difficult when it's a forced encounter.

>>380538549
Because Last Light is a shit game that was dumbed down for literal mongs, and when they tried to add in at least on good thing from the original they half-assed it and sold it as dlc

>>380538812
yeah, that's why I was kinda angry. Thankfully I didn't buy Last Light.

aw fuck

>Deep Silver still 4A's publisher
Yeah no thanks, Exodus will be shit