PERFORMANCE MATTERS

No. Fuck you entitled cunts.

What do voice actors seem strike so much? Do they get peanuts for real?

We have to save Zoe Quinn's best friend!

But she still voiced Aloy in the new expansion.
Going on strike doesnt mean you exclude some companies.
This is why the strike has gone on for nearly 2 years.

Whats the reason for the strike this time. Money again?

I had no idea she voiced Chloe. She actually has decent range.

>>380522230
>Life is Strange

Not video games.

>>380523028
>But she still voiced Aloy in the new expansion.
She likely voiced for that role before the strike started.

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>>380522230
Oh no, and you were so good in Persona Q and DAN said nobody

>>380522230
fuck unions

i would love to go back to shitty no-name voice actors

>>380523309
I do too, thats why I play budget games.

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>people are unironically defending corporate profits over worker's rights

This generation is fucked.

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>>380523068
It's just entilted cry baby Western VAs that think they want more credit even though they make more money then an entire dev team

Nolen North, and Troy Baker even had to call them out and say that the dev team is as equally as important as the VA especially when most of these VAs like Burch are just ass at doing it

>>380523705
>even though they make more money then an entire dev team

Source or you're a fucking liar.

>>380523592
Company like Valve and Nintendo are fair and friendly, voice actors are sjws trash

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>>380523309
Blizzard did for Overwatch and it seems to have paid off

>>380523592
>worker's rights
what rights are being violated here?

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>>380522230
Fuck them. Hire bad VAs again. Focus on gameplay. Who fucking cares about having professional voice actors in vidya?

>>380523592
>the backward ass retarded demands
>a strike fueled by David Hayters salt

Fuck them. Theyre easily replaced. Even Nolan North shat on the strike.

>>380523249
Jesus Christ Anthony, imagine being so fucking low on yourself that you feel the need to put "sorry" in your name.

Unions are shit

>>380523705
>they make more money then an entire dev team


A voice actor gets paid by session, which is only a few times. Devs work on a salary when making games for years. Learn basic math.

North and Baker are for the strike too. They are also just trying to show that yeah, devs are in a bad position too. Not that you care about devs anyway.

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here is a sample of her work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bozvLUp0f1o

What leverage do voice actors even have? Sure I like some of them but it'snot something that would stop me from buying a game.

>>380523924
>Crispin Freeman
>Mathew Mercer
>Fred Tatiscor

>No name voice actors

I hope the publishers hold out and the voice actors either crawl back in humiliation or starve.

Why would I need to it's pretty fucking obvious that they make more money then they're worth.
Especially people like Burch if anything dev team should just do their own VAs if anything.
>>380523592
>Defending these "PLS GIBS MONI" type fags
>Muh corprate boogieman

>it's a "/v/ hates hard-working people and sucks corporate dick" episode

Wow, big surprise. Bottlickers.

>>380524243
so we can hear the same 20 people in every video game over and over again

>>380522230

It never ever ceases to amaze me whenever I'm on /v/ half of it starts with a screencap of some web blog or some twitter page I can't even pretend to give two fucking shits about. Like what are you people even doing?

>>380523865
>Valve and Nintendo are fair and friendly
Now that's a laugh considering their ex-employees have said the opposite.

Especially some of their most esteemed members.

>>380524312
voice acting isn't important

>>380524016
Basic safety isnt a backward ass demand.

>>380524301
>>Muh corprate boogieman

Yeah, because /v/ is always for what big publishers like EA does. They've never done anything that got under our skin, nope.

>Other issues highlighted by the strike action include better transparency in what roles and conditions actors would perform, more safety precautions and oversight to avoid vocal stress for certain roles, and better safety assurances for actors while on set.

Those are reasonable things to ask for.

>union seeks to have actors and voice and motion capture artists that contribute to video games be better compensated with residuals based on video game sales atop their existing recording payments

Can fuck right off though. The problem isnt the pay, the problem is the intentional devaluing of the money they are already paid. If actors as a whole gave a shit they would be using their influence to get people to stand up against the banks.

>>380522230
Outsource it to japan and put subtitles on it.

Love how Japanese VAs are both more talented and don't pull of this shit.

>>380524312
>It's a Anon thinks /v/ is one person episode: With baseless Arguments for something that's very fucking small

>>380523924
Blizzard are exempt from the strike because "they arre good"

However activision are not. :^)

The VAs werent willing to sacrifice money for old rope for a dumb strike.

>>380524312
>Unions
>not the biggest bootlickers of them all

if you think Unions care about the individual any more than a corporation you might be retarded.

Just get different VAs, I fucking hate having to listen to the same 20-30 people over and over again.

>>380524595
Japanese voice actors are also paid obscene amounts compared to American voice actors.

Not that I'm saying I don't think this strike is stupid, but the Japs don't really have anything to complain about.

>>380523592
>literally replacable by anyone that can speak + read
>I'm supposed to pay greedy fucks loads of money for using their voice and read whatever the fucks on the paper

Kek, these jews can fuck right off. It is not a skill to read of a paper and do small acting. These fucks think their part of the work means everything when it almost means nothing. They are so easily replaced and they don't seem to get that. They can fuck right off.

>>380524470
reason they are on strike (allegedly) is because of motion capture work related to the audio capture, im pretty sure they are retarded tho.

Everyone has voices that can be used, their only trait is that they might be more experienced dealing with the industry / for some reason choose to be in the industry.


this strike is just stupid

>>380524247
Who?

>>380524464
wah my voice hurt :(

I had to shout for a day for thousands of dollars ;_;

>>380524470
ITs not residuals, though. Its bonus pay.

Residuals implies you get payed over time just because the product went to another platform or its a sales percentage. What they are asking for is a small bonus when a game sells million and millions of copies.

>voice actors go on strikes
>nothing happens
Why should they give them anything?

>>380524595
Look up "gaman."

>>380522230
>I can't do this thing because I don't wanna do this thing and also wanna be a whiny brat on top of it
Glad we won't have to hear her horrid voice acting for a bit.

>>380524494
It would end up costing more. They have to get licences to use Jap VAs outside of Japan

>>380524464
>AAA devs
This debatable especially with indie devs not just ea or fucking Activision

>>380524595

Their twitter pages aren't actually personal twitter pages though, they're PR shit and carefully managed to have only "safe" content for their fans that doesn't do anything to stand out or draw attention their producers and agents won't approve of. Besides again who the fuck combs random ass VA's twitter feeds and posts screencaps of them to an image board to obsess over anyway? Oh right fucking /v/ the place that lost the plot on video game industry narratives and goings on years ago anyway.

>>380524779
Surely that's only the really popular ones. I can't imagine the average seiyuu is making mad dosh.

>>380524793
No.

Its about having shorter shoutting sessions so they dont damage their throats, having stunt people for mocap work, less hidden shit when looking for work and when you have the part and getting a bonus payment for a game that is wildly sucessful

>>380524403
>nintendo

like who? and dont say it was because of tge way nintendo treated 3rd parties during the nes era because that was a necessary evil.

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>>380522230
Meanwhile in Japan

>>380524779
Because everyone in Japan has a voice that literally sound like they're from a anime/Cartoon
It's like they have a natural talent for VAs

>>380522230
Fuck them. She just shit on the fans. People have zero integrity.

>>380523976
You sure about that, anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwz916YdnMg

>>380524821
Those aren't no-name voice actors whether you personally know them or not, anon.

>>380522230
If english voice actors were good to begin with, I would care, but english dubs are shit, so I don´t.

>>380525156
no, really, it's the motion capture work.

I remember hearing about this strike and the silly reasoning they had when the videogame """"journalists"""" gave them attention

>>380522230
Oh no!
Not ASHLY BIRCH!

>>380525336

you dont reward bad behavior

>>380525482
This. They bitch and bitch about needing better conditions and more pay, but the performances they deliver don't warrant it. Meanwhile Nolan North, who is probably the single best voice actor in the industry, is not part of the union and got where he was with passion and hard work.

>>380522230
Remember when Voice Actors didn't have a bloated online personality and instead just did their jobs? I miss the days when people would skip the credits because they didn't care for who was the actor, and instead just enjoyed the character voices regardless.

>>380522896
>Do they get peanuts for real?
The fuck they do. Most times they get more money than the actual programmers.

>>380525194
Japan always have top tier VA and VA planning/casts although o find anime and most of their cutscenes gringy. Only the cream of the crop gets paid and celebrated well, isn't that applies to all work in existence ? Unless it's a "special" olympics tier.

>>380525362
I thought who was an obligatory rhetoric for these situations. My bad.

>>380522230
Good. Fuck Ashly Burch.

>>380525508
And I actually read the demands of the strike and not just sorta remember something from a gaming website article. ITs mostly about safety.

>>380525868
>a programmer working all year makes less money than a VA who does one or two sessions.

Yeah, sure.

>>380525889
I'm not sure what point you were trying to make in this mess of a post.

>>380522230
Now I might play LiS when it finally has some good voice acting
YFW at least you're not a Burch

>>380522230

That's still going on?

>>380525336
not him but I dont even mind that VA. That laugh is so silly

>>380524312
I'll care as soon as there's a strike for a job that matters

>>380524371
Or it goes back to the way it was years ago and the devs voice their own games and we get an even more diverse set of "voice actors" because we don't have to hear Ashley Burch or whatever shitting up her lines. They're gonna be as much shit as they "paid actors" were, but for far less expensive. Hell, open NPC roles for the public. People fucking pay on kickstarter to voice video games characters, why not let the fans do it?

These VA strikes are literally equivalent to McDonald's employees demanding $15/h. These voice actors aren't doing fucking work that deserves more pay.

>yfw new va does even better job and squenix hires her to re-voice chloe for the first game and you are still neither ashley or anthony burch

>>380524779
>>380525889
Too bad with Japanese VAs they all sound the same.

Seriously you get like say 25 male JP VAs and 25 female JP VAs and all their voices sound the same.

>>380526130
It's probably a new one.

>>380523592
>voice actors
>"workers"

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>>380525336
>that laugh

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>>380522230
>tfw you are related to Anthony Burch

>>380526224
Are you deaf?

>>380523592
How are their rights being violated?

>>380523592

Pretty much have to hope for the best for the next one. This one clearly has absolutely no idea what the fuck is even going on in the world anymore and literally values and appreciates nothing in life because it spends too much time obsessing over "political" shit on the internet that doesn't even matter anyway but that it lets take precedent over things that actually do affect people's lives significantly.

It's part of the growing pains of an entire generation raised on the internet and especially social media that humanity just wasn't ready for or could have entirely expected. I sort of knew it was going to be bad as early as 2002 going out of high school or so though just looking at how all the freshman talked and acted like whiny entitled shitheads and how it could only be the tip of the iceberg.

Now that we've all seen the effects of being raised on the internet with no restrictions and how it rotted an entire generations brains I'm sure lessons will be learned. We might have to let the millennials fall through the social safety net on their own and just start over before Gen X/Y hits menopause, but there's still time. It'll take at least another 10-15 years of suffering through the current millennial generations bullshit and being disgustingly easy to manipulate and extort if you know it's triggers which most large media corporations clearly do

>>380525336
This is actually kind of endearing.

I support almost all their demands but the royalties bit.

Fuck off with that shit, ask for more pay if you want. Devs should just grab play actors and do some basic casting and directing.

>>380522896
It pays much less than other acting jobs despite most film actors agreeing it's one of the more difficult jobs in drama fields due to long continuous hours and lack of feedback from other performers.

But most autists here will go "its juz talking in a booth why don't dey get a real job and be a NEET like me?!"

>>380525336
I don't hear the difference.

>>380526427
>it's an 'anon doesn't know the meaning of the word millennial' episode

>>380523592
I'm defending video games not going up in price over the people responsible for a feature I couldn't care less about getting paid more.

>>380526540
Its a small bonus when a game makes literally billions. Its very reasonable.

Also most voice actors come from theater.

>>380525336
Is this why weebs are vehemently against using dubs? Shit budget games like this have bad dubs, so every Jap game must?

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>>380526647
>get a real job and be a NEET
???

>>380526313
You'd have to be if you genuinely think tonal languages don't sound like complete shit.

>>380526728

For me it's human garbage that thinks making posts like >>380524426 to start a thread on the internet is just killing it with the topicality and provoking of thought.

>>380526029
Consider the work both have to do.

One has to test everything, to make sure every little detail works properly, if not, they can kiss their jobs goodbye.

While on the other hand, we got little miss squeaker who gets to have the comfiest job of speaking into a microphone , and sometime, SOMETIMES. scream. Fuck, most of the time she doesn't even have to emote.

>>380526828
Welcome to autism

>>380526828
Anon, the joke is that they don't have real jobs themselves.

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>>380526029
do you realize how little programmers are paid

Square did this. Every other major publisher has negotiated with SAG-AFTRA and VAs are still working.

>>380526647
Nice bait
Talking in booth sounds very fucking easy compared to programing the game or anything else like music

VAs are just the icing on something that doesn't need it, but us there anyway
>Inb4 food anolgie

>>380523592
No, you are uninformed and ignorant. All of the demands were met except residuals, read the documents. Voice actors have turned into such reprehensible people that they believe they ALONE sell video game franchises like Call of Duty not because its fun to shoot your friends online but because of their performances. Keep in mind their propaganda posters claim they only get a small percentage of Call of Duty Money which still equates to MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. This is the result of the blurring of the line between movies and video games becoming cinematic experiences. These people believe they are real actors and they are solely the ones responsible for sales in an entertainment medium that depends on players having fun through interactivity, actor performance like a real movie.

>company must only hire union actors
>cannot join said union without a credit role
>credit role only count when you work for a project that has the approval of the union
this is why we get the same 10 actors for everything

>>380526798
People generally aren't against dubs, they're against games being dub-only. Key difference.
But yes, people are generally opposed because dubs are of poor quality. Gaijinworks is as bottom of the barrel as it gets, but XSEED, Atlus, NISA, NoA dubs are all trash too. Most dubs simply aren't up to par with the original voices and only a small handful are actually better.

>>380522230
>do nothing
>get nothing

GAME DEVS UNFAIR
DEV TEAM IS IN THERE
PAYING US BY THE SESSION
PLOTTING THEIR OPPRESSION

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>>380526902
>Japanese
>Tonal language

>>380527112
So how can they get a real job and be a NEET?

>>380527139
Shit's oversaturated, do you realize how many "programmers" graduate every fucking year?

>>380526647
>Film actors are overpayed to stupid amounts
>AH NO WE ARE UNDERPAID IN COMPARISON SO IT'S BAD!
Fuck off, go become a film actor if it's actually easier

>>380524209
That's awful, the voice isn't even consistent, let alone good. She's constantly shifting into other weird voices, like what the fuck dude. Who would hire someone who can't even act?

>>380523592
what do you expect from a bunch of pinko /pol/ fags?

>>380527202
Have you ever talked continuously for five hours without breaks?

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>>380522230
I remember watching HAWP on YT a few years ago, the Bioshock one was great.
What the fuck happened to them, why did they went full retard SJW?

The companies were willing to give a huge raise and bonus to voice actors, but the voice actors said fuck off and give us royalties instead.

I usually don't defend big businesses, but in this case I have to say fuck you to the voice actors. If anything the people who actually develop the game deserve more than you. Programmers, engineers, artists, etc. add far more value than a voice performance. I'd totally be okay to reading text boxes than giving voice actors more than they deserve.

>>380527351
LMAO do you realize how many 'actors' graduate every fucking year?

you're talking to someone who's been in both fields, fuck off with this. you haven't a clue

>>380527572
Have you ever actually worked for eight hours without breaks?

>>380523592
It's funny, because these strikes are causing people to be blacklisted by the industry. New blood comes, they're fine with the conditions.

>>380527071
My point was devs are paid on a salary. VAs on commission. Their entire payscale is different.

>and sometime, SOMETIMES. scream

Of fuck off. The VAST majority of games out there have some combat in them. Actually go listen to the dialog in a game. Take into account the hundreds of other takes that didnt make it to the game.

Courtney Tailor had to get throat surgery from her role in Fallout 4.

>>380526454
Bad voice acting > boring rehashed acting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX2JakMri3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A0LsygRub4

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>>380527139
>tfw making around 3100 before tax each month

>>380523592
>Workers rights
>I WANT MORE MONEY PAY ME LIKE I'M IN HOLLYWOOD! MORE MOVIE GAMES! LESS BUDGET FOR GAMEPLAY!
Fuck off

>>380526647
>and lack of feedback from other performers.
Just another reason dubs are shit. You'd think by now they'd have realised Japan is onto something with getting all the actors together reading their lines to each other.

>>380527139
Yeah, programmers and everyone else in game dev are overworked and underpayed.

VAs arent saying they are better than them. But VAs have a union and are capable of asking for more instead of just taking whats given to them like cucks.

>>380524830
Well, fuck them. Thats not how things work.
If you want proportional profit, you have to put something on the line, thats how risk and reward work.

Either put cash in the project or work for free, then you can demand a bonus or a porcentage of successful games.

>>380527352
Most film actors aren't RDJ or Cruise, they're check to check shmucks who star in Cannes fodder.

>>380522230
I hope they realize the longer they draw this out and everyone sees what little impact it actually has on sales and game performance, the less bargaining power they actually have.

>>380524470
They're using to performance stuff to try and push their mandated bonuses when games hit the 2 million, 4, million, 6 million and 8 million milestones. There's no reason to even put those in there unless if that was their goal. If they actually really cared about those other things that would have been addressed years ago when those issues started popping up and publishers would have likely signed off on that since those are fairly reasonable.

They're just mad that people like Rockstar hired no names to do voices for a game like GTAV for peanuts, then the game goes on to sell 80 million copies and they don't get a cut of all those sales on top of what they initially agreed to. That's all the strike is actually about.

>>380527715
>Actually go listen to the dialog in a game
Here ya go, anon, you're totally right, these voice actors do amazing jobs! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zygDzAkothQ

>>380527698
Yes, in a warehouse. If VA work is so cushy, why don't you do it?

>>380527628
>If anything the people who actually develop the game deserve more than you.


Too bad they arent demanding more. If only there was some other group out there that showed you COULD demands more from companies like Activision.

>>380527715
>Throat surgery for a game nobody wanted fucking voice acting in in the first place

kind of proves the point

>>380522230
>burch sibling
>tumblr: the game
who fucking cares

>>380528107
Not union. Look up the IMDB, retard.

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>ASHLY BURCH

L
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nICdbrGa00s

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>>380522230
Oh no, now I might never have the chance to hear her in my games ever again. Such a tragedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3NI7kzLRKA

>>380528198
Weather or not a game has VO in it is a dev decision, silly.

>get paid by the hour and the amount of dialogues
>as many breaks as you want
>free food for every session
>can milk as many hours as you want to get paid more
>want royalties as well
man much be good to be a VA

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>mfw these big name actors are just shooting themselves in the foot because developers and animators well just get cheaper non union actors instead leaving them out of a job and giving small time VAs a shot

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>voice actors giving the strike a bad name by demanding royalties like they gave bearing on the game's success and hazard pay because "muh vocal chords"
>none of them mention the strikes cover mocap actors too, or the substandard conditions in which they sometimes work
shit like pic related could be avoided if vidya devs had proper stunt coordination, which this strike is also demanding

>>380528489
VAs arent payed hourly, moron. And its a bonus, not a royalty

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>yfw you're not Ashley Burch

>>380528608
fitting that you post the voice of god

what if he went on strike?

>>380523924
>Americans in ironically believe voice acting in Overwatch is fine.

>>380528608
>developers and animators well just get cheaper non union actors

Animation union is supporting the strike.

>We want a stunt coordinator present if we do mocap so we don't hurt ourselves
>Ok
>We want full disclosure of our roles ahead of time so we know how to prepare and what sort of work is to be expected of us
>Sure.
>We want mandated break periods during high stress recording such as having to scream or yell over long periods of time
>Done.
>And finally we want a percentage of royalties if the game sells X amount
>Sorry can't do that.
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW FUCK YOU GUYS! GOOD LUCK FINDING NEW VOICE ACTORS!

>>380528436
>Devs want to make games CINEMATIC so they hire VAs
>VAs destroy their own voices putting in effort
>Consumers dislike the voice acting in the first place and would rather it not be there
>VAs say that they won't work if they aren't compensated more

Okay, so don't work. We don't have to deal with your voice and you don't have to tear your vocal cords out. Go VA for anime dubs or something.

Why do VA's overestimate their importance to video games?
No one buys a video game because some shitty VA is in it.

>>380528820
And what are your issues with it?

>>380522230
Nothing worse than the voice actor changing between games. Dropped

>voice actors on strike for 7 months
>we only now remember

E3 was great this year. We didn't get 14 games with the protagonist voiced by Troy Baker.

I hope they stay on strike forever.

>>380524470
>more safety precautions and oversight to avoid vocal stress for certain roles
Americans already can't scream for shit, this will just make it worse.
Compare 9S during his rage scenes, Jap 9S sounds fucking mad with the voice going hoarse from anger, dub 9S just sounds nasal and whiny. Seriously, why are Americans so bad at yelling? Shulk's dub VA in Xenoblade did a great job with his yell scenes, but whenever American VAs have to yell it's always a poorly delivered slightly raised voice.

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>>380528747

only the most cucked game companies would surrender to this shit

Voice Acting is easy as shit and no one cares about the big names.

>>380522230
HAHA get fucked.

>>380528715
>And its a bonus, not a royalty
>Want some % of what the devs get from the game sales
>not royalties

What?

>>380522230
If it was literally any other voice actor or any other game I might care, but in this specific case I don't.

>>380528916
>>And finally we want a percentage of royalties if the game sells X amount

Its a flat, one time payout when a game sells millions. Not a percentage.

Also no, the publishers have refused ALL demands, not just the bonuses. Look it up.

>>380527683
I have a clue, now fuck off you little neetcuck and keep daydreaming about shit you dont know.

She is cringy AF in Horizon Zero Dawn.

>>380529005
>Japan: Voice actor only changes if they die or the series gets a total reboot, even when voice actors retire they often reprise old roles on request
>US: Voice actor changes every time they can find someone cheaper
Fuck Atlus, seriously.

do people really think shes a good voice actor

I kinda want to return to the days of shitty voice acting anyway honestly

>>380527871
They don't deserve anything more than what is given to them though. They think they are hollywood celebrities who make or break games when in truth they are the least important part of any game.

>>380529103
ok first off

an anime dub is not nearly the same as recording for a game.

Second, more of them not when a dub isnt so good its because a) the languages is so different and b)the actor attempting to match the lip flaps.

>>380524464
We are talking about sitting in a climate controlled booth and reading lines. Litteraly nothing else could be safer

>>380522230
Funny thing I see no big name Western VA on this shit
Burch is just third rate

>>380529418
And sometimes they even "retire" the character completely if the VA dies, that's how important they are.

>>380529419
Only tumblr and /vg/

somebody reading lines into a mic for a few days deserves close to zero compensation

>>380529419
voice acting is easy
>>380529491
shitty voice acting is literally people just not caring.

Oh no now some shitty movie game wont get some literal who voice actor that thinks hes hot shit
the humanity

>>380529235
>>Want some % of what the devs get from the game sales

No, thats not what it is at all. You are factually wrong.

Its a small, one time pay out bonus when a game sells at certain milestones. Its not based on percentages.

A royalty would be if you were in a movie and you get a cut from the DVD sales.

Didn't it recently become the longest strike in the field of acting? And still no one cares?
>We want more money than the fucking developers because we aren't guaranteed roles non stop
If that is the case then get another job. If a job isn't good enough for paying your expanses you get another fucking job, not fuck over everyone else working with you.

I hope they dont give in. The industry needs to work on lowering development costs anyway

>>380529502
>an anime dub is not nearly the same as recording for a game.
I just gave examples for two games and no anime, you fucking idiot. Not that the anime dub scene is any different.
>a) the languages is so different
Yelling is not any different between our languages.
>and b)the actor attempting to match the lip flaps.
This isn't even relevant, especially as in modern times localisation companies often have the luxury of adjusting lip flaps.

Why are you such an apologist? Demand better, for fuck's sake.

>>380529491
programmers make infinitely better VAs than the people they pay absurd amounts of money to do it. it's just a fact.

>>380529501
>They don't deserve anything more than what is given to them though

I dunno, they probably deserve basic safety practices.

Chloe is feMC right? Boy, I'm sure not touching that game now.

>>38380527698
Yes, every monday during Ramadan has been a 16+ hour workday for me. We stary a little before 9 am, take lunch around 5, and then work until whenever the sales end which can be as late as 1 am Tuesday morning.

>>380529776
>This isn't even relevant, especially as in modern times localisation companies often have the luxury of adjusting lip flaps


Oh ok, thanks for showing you have zero clue how ADR works. I cant disregard everything you say now.

I have one question:
Why would any big budget game EVER hire a famous VA, or any VA that already did a game. Thats one kind of job that should be one time only.

I cant stand troy baker in any more games. Why would you ruin your character by giving the same generic voice as anyone else.

>>380529947
>Get BTFO on all points
>Respond to one saying n-no you don't know how stuff works
Ok.

>>380529697
>Ashly Burch
>literally who
Don't talk about her like that, she's an angle!!1!!1

>>380526173
I bet you'll whine like a little bitch when you play a game with shit VAs. Its seriously an important role

anime with bad VAs!? muh subs muh subs, now imagine if the japanese hired bad VAs.. it wouldnt even be as popular

You say that now. But imreally willing to bet you'll whine even worst when all your games sound like shit

>>380529491
>Illidan cracking voice in reign of chaos
It was fun. The VA nailed Illidan in TFT, tho.

>>380529997
redditors will buy the game because the dwarf from their FOTM show voiced a robot in it.

>>380525194
>>380525889

Voice acting unions in Japan are actually damn powerful though, so if they strike, or if a union blacklists you, pretty much any animation, musical or video game project you have is fucked.

Western voice acting unions are a joke because they aren't large enough, don't have any real teeth, and independent voice actors are more than willing to take over.

>>380530147
honestly, text-only is the way to go. only retarded babies like you need some faggot yelling at them.

>>380530147
Go try and voice act for fun and see how much you suck at it

>>380530253
I've never heard of a single case of a Japanese production getting fucked by unions, or a character getting replaced because of them.

>>380527205
Not the original Anon - the original strike was mostly over safety practices, weren't they? Such as not having to yell for more than a few hours a day or something, so as to not damage the throat. That stuff was resolved, and they're now still on strike hoping for extra money?

>>380522230
Thank god its not voicing anymore games.

Movie/TV makes sense because big names matter

Even TV writing somewhat

Voice acting for video games makes no sense. There are free VA's for mods that do better jobs than most of these professionals. No reason you would ever work with a union, which also restricts who you can hire for other roles.

>>380523238
A lot of strikers have been doing no-credit work, so he's right that the strike has been going on so long because they're all actually still working for the same companies in different respects.

>>380530474
You are a retard if you don't understand lawyers and unions in hollywood

It was always about the money. The other stuff is PR to trick normies and retarded casuals like you. DUMB FUCK HEAD SHIT BRAIN

>>380523592
>Unions demand double the wages for voice acting
>amount of voice acting in games cuts by half
>Unions mandate minimum voice acting requirements per game at gunpoint
>Average Game price increases to $80
>Sales plummet
>Get consumers to start paying for a gaming license to subsidize companies burdened by low sales by bigots that won't buy games with excellent quality voice acting with voice actors paid their fair share.
>Anyone that falls out of line dies
>Just like in good ol Stalin
>or Lenin
>or Mao
>or North Korea
>or Afganistan

>>380522230
A strike I love?
What is happening here?
>>380523068
They want royalties and 1% cut of the profit + pay and 3 4 hour days a week.

I am not shitting you

>>380530256
Voice acting at the day is irrelevant.
If all the VAs are amazing the game is improved but not changed in a meaningful way. If they are all bad you can just mute them.

There are so many other fucking things in a video game that are more important and have a much larger impact than VA and the people who do that deserve the money.
Video games survived with no fucking problem without or with minimal VAs, hell in some cases a VA is a bad thing for the game since it limits the shit you can write.

>>380527735
I unironically love this shit.

>>380524312
It's called having a job.

>>380530256
Hey, I like text only. Especially in FF games where it just fit well. But many games use VAs so go and try and change the entire industry.. we have VAs. thats the world right now. Id rather they were good than shit
Your second sentence makes no sense

>>380528683

What happened there? I'm actually curious, because I like doing VA work for fun sometimes.

>>380530663
>WAAAHHHH MOMMA CAN'T AFFORD MY TENDIES IF THEY RAISE VIDYA GAME PRICES
Get a job.

>>380530674
>They want royalties and 1% cut of the profit + pay and 3, 4 hour days a week.
Give that to the programmers and make the voice actors have crunch time.

>>380524464
Yo it's almost like these same strikers are all union and have a stranglehold on the VA business, preventing growth in both number of VAs and other businesses being willing to work with an increasingly overbearing union.

>>380530834
What is your point? If anyone should be unionizing and getting more credit it is programmers and artists. Then we would get better games.

I don't give a fuck how moronic 80 IQ voice retards get paid. I just played RE1 HD again and the VA is awful shit. Still a great game.

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I didn't even realize Chloe's new VA was different. So much for performance matters, eh

>>380530827
He jumped into the mic stand. why? We have no idea, he wasn't supposed to even get out of the chair.

>>380530253
Don't you mean it's exactly the opposite? The strike is only a joke because they're only doing it to big companies.

>>380530860
I wish I could get royalties or <90 hour work weeks.
I am salary (don't do it) so I only get 85K a year anyways.

>>380528820
I'm using the superior weeb voice acting but what's the problem with the english voice acting?
Blizzard dubbing for every languages is nice, there is not a really bad one to be honest

>>380523249
Is he saying being gay is a choice?

>>380530992
> If anyone should be unionizing and getting more credit it is programmers and artists.

I agree with you there but add musicians and VAs too. They all should they're all being milked for their work and its the owners/shareholders and produceers making bank on everyones hard work

Is there such a thing as good voice acting in a game?

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>"performance matters guys support our union"
>pushes the same 4-5 voice actors again and again

>>380530674
>I am not shitting you


Yes you are you are factually wrong.

Its a one time payment equivalent to 1 session.

The best part of this strike is that new people who want to get into this line of work now have the chance of a lifetime.

So companies pay less and might end up discovering some new talent instead of using the same VAs over and over again because they're famous.

>>380531268
yes.

>>380530992
I was mostly replying to that one Anon who has his head stuffed so far up his ass that he somehow seems to think that safe medical practices should be ignored so they can shuffle the VAs out faster. VAs don't deserve to be treated like elites, no shit, so this whole royalty business is fucking stupid. Saying they should have to potentially hurt themselves, which damages their only source of income, is equally fucking retarded.

>>380522230
Yes! YES! KILL ASHLY BURCH! SHE MUST BE STOPPED!

>>380530992
CHRIS!
DONT OPEN THAT DOOR

I find it funny that to date we still only know the identity of ONE of the original RE VAs.

>>380524312
>hard-working people
>get paid several thousand dollars per 4 hour session with acting standards below a fucking high school production of macbeth

>>380527715
>Courtney Tailor had to get throat surgery from her role in Fallout 4.

What the fuck. This is the case of a professional actually knowing their own limits and taking safety measures to avoid that shit.

Most teachers I know who are overworked take measures to avoid ruining their throats, because they know they need to.

>Chloe was voiced by Ashley Burch

fugg I finished the first 4 chapters forever ago and wanted to go ahead and take a crack at chapter 5, but can't now knowing it's HER

>>380530992
What is your point? If anyone should be unionizing and getting more credit it is programmers and artists. Then we would get better games.

I agree and I also don't think that's a good argument against VAs unionizing.

The west needs to get Japanese tier contract. Where you're guarantee to voice your character in everything they appear in and you get paid more if they try to bring your shit overseas.

Absolutely refuse to play the prequel now. Chloe is best girl and I need the original VA to make her character work.

>>380526776
Can't wait for my reasonable small bonus for when the company that I work for makes their next billion in a couple of hours.

>>380530880
Except you know the vast majority of VAs teach and give advice for aspiring VAs on how to get into industry.

>>380531446
Just imagine it ended at Chapter 4.

>>380522230
>SAG
yeah fuck off

Anyway, I'm not a professional VA, but I have experience with voicework. A trained voice is amazing, but an amateur can do the job just fine. These actors severely over-inflate their importance in the industry. Also, the SAG is fucking cancer.

t. anon with game and film experience

>>380526647
>It pays much less than other acting jobs

Because it's not anywhere near as hard desu. /I'VE/ done voice acting. It's not my fault they're fuck ugly and are unable to actually give a realistic full body performance.

>>380531286
Yes

https://youtu.be/Vpmiq8sTH0k?t=80

>>380523592
Voice actor budgets are a fucking cancer when it comes to game development fuck them for wanting even more money.

>>380531574
Is that why every game and anime has the same handful of voice actors? Now, I like Patrick Seitza, Laura Bailey and Steve Blum as much as the next guy, but the union we have now just doesn't work.

>>380531419
>This is the case of a professional actually knowing their own limits and taking safety measures to avoid that shit.


While dealing with the pressuring demands of the publishers. Hence demanding for shorter sessions that can cause damage.

>>380531534
>Chloe is best girl
How is it possible to think this? She is so fucking stupid she accidentally shot her self.

>y'all
fuck every piece of shit who actually types this out, especially white pieces of shit who do it solely to seem more "with it" might as well go all the way and misspell words and not just punctuation if you're going for the relatable retarded route

Voice acting was the worst thing to happen to video games

>>380531204
Why would you listen to Japanese of your own free will? The point is to use it as a white noise of barbaric gibberish if the dub isn't well preformed.

>>380529704
>No, thats not what it is at all. You are factually wrong.

Nope, that's EXACTLY what was being asked for before they GOT LAUGHED AT. Cause holy shit, voice actors are fucking stupid.

>>380530373
That is because unions haven't really had to strike. Working conditions for a VA are pretty damn good compared to other jobs in the same industry.


Also, it is sort of a cultural taboo to replace a VA without the original actors blessing, unless it is absolutely necessary, so it is rare where you see a characters VA getting changed.

An example of that is Igor, from Persona. Even after the VA died in 2010, they still use archived footage for him. 2 Animes and a full sequel since he died.

>>380522230
Burch didn't even do an amazing job, it was slightly above average. I'm sure they can find someone to replace her, it's not like an iconic role or anything. If they removed Jen Taylor from doing the voice of Cortana, that could be a different story, but it's fucking Ashly Burch.

Sucks that they're treated poorly but they have one of the more expendable roles in game development.

>>380522896
>What do voice actors seem strike so much

This is the same strike as before, it's still going lol

>>380531604
List you r credits or else you have zero experience.

You unemployed fucks are stupid. You realize the video game industry is bigger than movies right? Why the fuck should they not get basic rights that other jobs have? They literally have no security and companies on a whim can change a VA even if they have been voicing a character for years.

You can pretend that people don't care about VA in game but that is clearly not true.

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>>380531268
Burch is the least gay faggot I've ever seen. He actually FAILED at being gay. Fuck it.

>mfw I'm not Anthony Burch

>>380531330
where the fuck do you see that?

>>380531274
Yeah but programmers/artists are the important pieces for games. VA doesn't matter.

>>380531641
>I spent twenty minutes recording the death gurgles of Soldier A and went home, I don't see what the big deal is :^)

Is Yuri Lowenthal not union or something, cuz I swear, I heard that samey motherfucker like 4 different times during E3.

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If /v/ is fine with voice actors not getting paid perhaps it's time to stop having voice acting in games. You know what? If you really don't like paying VA's, then stop listening to their work. Mute the dialogue in your games. If you don't then clearly their performance adds something of value.

I say fuck all these voice actors, you always hear the same 5 ones in games anyway. They get paid to read lines into a mic, there's modders on bethesda games that can do their job.

>>380526647
>these shitty untalented hacks aren't paid as much as drastically overpaid real actors
>in spite of getting paid more than just about anyone else involved all of whom put in 10x the work into the project and didn't just show up, talk and yell for 4 hours, and leave with a fat paycheck
Hurr time to strike #performancematters that's why all American actors sound like they're bored middle-aged people reading lines regardless of what character they're portraying

>>380531812
No you are still wrong.

They are asking to get a small, one time payment when a game sell every 2 million copies.

But hey, enjoy your free Origin fun bux, goyim.

>>380532070
Not the best example seeing how death gurgles are one of the things that are too hard and one of the reasons they are on strike.

>>380531952
You do realize the industry also involves Japan and other countries outside of the US, right? Your shitty americans VA strike does nothing to our VAs in Italy.

>>380532082
He's not, since he's secure enough in his work to get jobs without their help, and if you look at most unions today they've been perverted into Jewtastic scams instead of protecting their workers from exploitative companies like they're SUPPOSED to

>>380531807
Widowmaker japanese voice actress make my pepe hard
I'm also not an english native, and I think the dub for my country is on the bottom 3

>>380531871
lol no. If I wanted to go public about shit like this I wouldn't be on an anonymous image board. Don't believe me if you don't want to, it's all the same to me.

>>380532093
I've been doing that or replacing them with the original voices for years, so ok

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>>380522230

>>380532015

https://www.sagaftra.org/interactive/proposal-details

>>380532189
I hope Italy treats them better but I bet they get paid worse there. Which isn't a good thing.

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>>380532250
>or replacing them with the original voices for years
>Dubs are the only form of voice acting that exists

>>380531952
This. Nobody saying "HURF THEY OVERPAID" or "VOICE ACTING IS IRRELEVANT" actually practice this. They all listen to the voice acting in a game they paid $60 for and then bitch that the actors they hear in said game get a cut of the money. Not even a fair cut, just any cut. Yet they still listen to the voice acting they're so quick to criticize as horrible and samey and dismiss as irrelevant off-hand.

>>380531641
Then why do film actors who do a voiceover for a game on the side say it's a massively unpleasant and strenuous experience compared to screen acting?

>>380531952
>You can pretend that people don't care about VA in game but that is clearly not true.
so prove it. normies care about making heads pop in gnarly ways and how much blood comes out.

>>380524403
>Now that's a laugh considering their ex-employees have said the opposite.


you mean the ex employee who was fired for being a PR rep while also being a hooker?

>>380532238
Ah, okay

>>380532394
I've never heard a sentence start with "normie" and go anywhere intelligent. That didn't change today either.

>>380532250
Good, at least you're consistent. Practice what you preach.

>>380531015
Was he retarded or on some hard shit?

>>380532343
When it comes to games with American voice acting, it's either a dub or a shit game.

>>380532371
Because the people who work in videogames are incompetents

>>380532394
The considerable trend by these companies to be more cinamatic and emulate hollywood kinda proves that on its own.

>>380532371
Because they are REQUIRED to because it's the SAG talking points. Holy shit, you are literally just a shill aren't you?

>>380532525
>Generalizations

>>380532503
of course you don't have a source

>>380523592

>Here, do 8 hours work a day, you'll get paid a decent wage
>REEEEE NO THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY OF ME DOING THAT DESPITE THE FACT I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS AND HAVE HAD NO NEGATIVE EFFECTS TO MY LIFE.

Workers rights are important. Not this autistic whining.

>Strike for more money and long term profits from games
>Now can't work so don't get paid
Pottery

>>380522230

If they have been on strike all this time how have all these games been coming out? I haven't noticed a difference at all. Maybe they are better because I'm not hearing the same five people.

>>380532353
Well they get a lot more than a fair cut.

>>380532093
/v/ is fine with it, get out you corporate shill. I welcome massive dialogue trees and awesomeness.

>>380522230
Thats what you get for going on strike you dumb cunt

What did you expect to happen?

Funny how i just realized how most of my favorite games ever have little to no voice acting at all.
Doom, pokemon gold /silver, cave story,

>>380532667
I bet you couldnt scream for 1 hour, let alone the 4 hours VAs do.

Pussy.

Are they still demanding a cut of the game's sales? Because that was fucking insane.

>>380531952
Tell me one fucking game, a single fucking game where Voice acting made the difference.
One game that is unplayable because shitty gameplay but gets a pass because the voice acting is so incredible it deserves a playtrough.
One game that has great gameplay, story, everything but that failed because of voice acting.

>>380532794
Why is the response always strawmen? Is /v/ genuinely incapable of an argument?

>>380532335
The blame falls on SAG. They're incompetent and have a complete disconnect from the VA world. To them a VA is Tom Hank doing a character in a Pixar film. They don't realize that what Tom Hanks does is less than 10% of the entire VA in SAG. You can't apply the standards of a VA to a Hollywood movie star that does some VA work. These people are not going to get Hollywood VA level pay, and its SAG that's pushing it.

>>380532849
>Are they still demanding a cut of the game's sales?


That was literally never a demand. At most they one a flat one time bonus one games that sell many millions.

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>>380532794
>Voice actors get cut from video game development
>Writing suddenly improves ten-fold

>>380532830
Already done it, I've supplied voices for quite a few games and still hear my voice clips sampled a decade later. STop being a fucking pussy, and I was just a damn programmer and they STILL use those clips over your shitty whining ass.

>>380532830
>/v/
>Not screaming edlessly 24/7
Back to rebbid with you.

>>380532859
>One game that has great gameplay, story, everything but that failed because of voice acting.
I'd argue LA Noire was impacted negatively by its subpar voice acting.

>>380532830

I could if it was my job and had a glass of water.
I doubt they're denied a glass of water.

>>380532803
this
>go on strike
>they hire someone else to do your job
>WOOOWWW WTF YOU CAN'T DO THAT

>>380532874
>These people are not going to get Hollywood VA level pay


You do know literally all of this is based in Hollywood, right?

>VAs honking they are owed more than their worth
>it's at most a 50-65k career for the work they do
actors in general receive more compensation than they really deserve in general
People go to see movies because of what it's about, not because some fuck happens to be in it the sa,e applies to Cody I don't give two shits about so,e fuck who is saying the lines. Really gQmes could be voiceless

>>380527420
>Who would hire someone who can't even _____?
The question of the last decade for video games, anon.

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>>380532957

>>380532635
Those statements predate the merging of SAG and AFTRA, moron.

>>380532947
>At most they one a flat one time bonus one games that sell many millions.

Still bullshit, and incredibly so.

I'm all up for better work conditions and better pay. Bitching about unwarranted bonuses is the absurd part.

>>380532872
/v/ actually liked games like might and magic. We're actual gamers, we liked ff6, didn't hear any shit voices. Chrono trigger is still one of the best games ever made.. no voice. Voices don't really matter.

>>380533092
If it's so easy, why don't you do it?

>>380523592
would rather the programmers get more money

>>380532859
Xenosaga and Xenoblade Chronicles X

>>380533124
No.. no it doesn't you stupid fuck. People had dual membership since the fucking 50's. Holy shit, you don't even know that neither of thsoe exist anymore BECAUSE they were overlapped. Fucking hell.

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>>380533138
>/v/
>actual gamers

>>380533247
he actually did it. he did the "do it yourself" meme
incredible

>>380532965
Credits or it didnt happen.
>>380533134
>game sells 10 millions copies
>makes company x billions of dollars
>/v/ has endless threads jerking off over the character
>body pillow sales threw the roof

>But the VA of the character asking for a few hundred dollars is unreasonable.

>>380533138
>We
Fuck you, nigger, there's no "we", I don't want any part of your autism. Take that shit back to tumblr

>>380533115
Don't know how I'm going to give sources on a hypothetical joke situation, but I'll do my damnedest to try.
Just gotta figure out multi-verse theory and find a universe without voice actors.

Mind if I get back to you in a few years?

>>380528820
is there something wrong with it? It all seems quite high quality to me. Is it because you think that some of the accents are unrealistic? Because that's not actually a meaningful criticism if they were never intending them to be realistic but instead evocative, which they are.

>>380533354
I know the meme of /v/ hates gamea and doesn't even play them is popular but /v/ still plays far more than the majority of twitter, tumblr, and reddit.

Is Jennifer Hale a part of the strike? She was pretty much female Nolan North being present in every fucking game on Earth.

I quite like her.

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>>380533247
Because, anon
I already do

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>>380523592
>This generation

Actually young people are more redpilled and less likely to be economic cucks, it's older people who fight for the interests of richer people over themselves

>>380523592
Fuck the corporate fuckers.
I jsut think that literally almost everyone else that is involved with the making of a game deserves more because their work is more important and they are treated shittier than VAs

>>380533425
How was I supposed to know your post was a joke when we're surrounded by retards making the claim in earnest?

>>380533092
Hahahaha are you pretending actors are not the reason people see movies? Fucking RDJ literally brought in millions of fans to the marvel cinematic universe. People went to watch the Pirates of Caribbean movies because of Depp. The list goes on and on.

>>380533372
>a few hundred dollars is unreasonable.

I highly doubt that they want that little.

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>>380527871
>imblying most programmers don't belong to a union
>impleehing that programmers can go on a strike without losing their jobs
>implausblying that programmers aren't more expendable than voice actors
>implooshiplating that voice actors don't think they're the reason people buy games
Programmers get little to no credit nowadays. >Game has bad coding = company sucks
>Game has superb and fluent mechanics implemented perfectly = this company is the best gaming company ever

>>380533337
Can you source me Stephen Merchant's membership to SAG and ATFRA prior to 2011 then?

>>380532203
Onion peeling 1920 best day of my life

>>380533525
I was hoping the greentext and silly image would drive the point home.
I'm sorry.

In truth I don't believe removing voice actors would instantly improve game writing, but it would allow the writers more freedom in what they do, which could start down that path.

>>380533658
Read the fucking link that has been posted in the thread. You underage retard.

>>380532830
>oh fuck my voice. I've been screaming for 4 hours, godammit. this so much hard work. damn.
>but you never asked for a break.
>I-I know I just wanted to create some drama.

Going to be completely honest here:
I would barely care at all if no game had any VA whatsoever or only stuff in made up languages or few voice clips like Super Mario.

If you really want to, you could just hire some random people online and promise them a free copy plus a few bucks and they would be more than happy to be in a video game. Look on youtube or some subreddits how many people are doing amateur voice acting and some of them aren't half bad.

>>380533247
I didn't say it was easy. Tons of people do back breaking labor every day. That doesn't mean they are worth a big salary

>>380533363
If acting is such an easy ride, what's you explanation for not doing it? Don't you want easy money?

>>380533698
>Stephen Merchant
You mean when he registered in the mid 90's for membership. That wasn't even hard.

>>380532250
Mah nigga!

>>380533883
Because in 2017 acting implies nepotism

>>380533768
What fucking link, you autistic fuck?

I didn't even check it out and I already know that those "few hundred dollars" work with a multiplying factor according to the overall sales.

>>380533883
because i obviously don't want to. use your fucking brain, you retarded sack of shit. just go ahead and end yourself, if you're seriously this fucking dumb.

>>380533820
Yeah man. Mark Hamil totally didn't wreck his vocal cords doing the Joker. I sure wish I could've watched BTAS and played Arkham Asylum with no audio at all. Since all those VA apparently suck.

It's not like people weren't losing their shit when it was announced who would play Batman and Joker.

>>380533928
When did SAG release their memo for all members to state that VA work is super hard?

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>>380531849
>mfw Igor VA change in P5
>It ends up being relevant and plot related

>>380529808
i fail to see how royalties on game sales has anything to do with basic safety practices

>>380533680
>>imblying most programmers don't belong to a union

They dont. There is no union in the game industry besides voice actors. Post one union site if I'm wrong.

>impleehing that programmers can go on a strike without losing their jobs

They cant go on strike, but yes they often risk for jobs if they ask for anything. Its an industry of explotation.

>implausblying that programmers aren't more expendable than voice actors

Arguably. They are both competitive fields in a creative industry.
My point is, when ever anyone says "I would rather devs/programmers get x instead of VAs" you fucks dont give a shit about programmers or anyone else who makes games. Did you care that the last game you played layed off over half its staff after the game was done? No!

Did you stop buying from that company? No.

For fuck sake, not one of you could name a developer besides some one like Kojima.

>>380534029
Why not? It's easy, and you're clearly a hard worker based on your assertiveness about the triviality of their labour.

>>380534062
>comparing iconic voices of real actors with years of experience to the sister of Anthony Burch
>"n-no anon, they're totally the same thing"
kys

>>380534078
Around 1995 when one of their boardmembers wanted more money for their work on an animated film.

You.. you can't be this dumb..

>>380532947
>At most they one a flat one time bonus one games that sell many millions.
Not a single worker in the world deserve a contractually obliged bonus. EVER.
You are recieving to perform a job, and should recieve what is accorded. Bonuses should be reserved for people who actually stand out in development.

People who deserve a proportional payment (recieving a flat rate in x situation is still proportional, just described differently to trick retards) are those who willing took up the risk of failure too. The stockholders, the investors, etc. If you put money, or worked for free in a game, then yes, you deserve some proportional part of the payment. That is not the case with VAs

>>380533820
How many times at your job did you get a break you asked for?

>>380522230
Ashly is my waifu

Anthony Burch's sister got into the industry via nepotism, she doesn't deserve dick. Wil Wheaton and Felicia Day can fuck off with their strike and leave a bunch of bitter literally who voice actors broke and homeless because VAs are the least important aspect of vidya yet seem to expect to be get better contracts than fucking Hollywood actors do. If the union managed to negotiate it, all these untalented chumps would get driven out by Hollywood actors.