So do you think Nintendo will finally put real dual stick shooter

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>>380517365
Squishy Metroid amiibo

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>>380517365
>finally get proper shoulderpads back
>they stick some weird round metal shit on the side

WHY

>>380517365
Dual analog controls with right trigger as fire and left trigger for lock on would probably be ideal. For some reason though most other Metroid fans seem to fucking despise dual analog controls though so I don't know.

>>380517365
This shit better be dual stick. I feel like the combat would be much better if they went in that direction.

To be honest, I will miss Wiimote controls.

>>380517365
Don't the joycons/switch pro use motion sense?

I think it'll be traditional controls for most things but with gyro aiming and a lock--on system similar to Metroid Prime 3 for combat.

>>380520673
It would be foolish to make it a full blown waggle fest because that has a cost to portability factor. They will almost certainly use Gyro Aim features in some way though.

>>380520673
Yeah but they don't have an IR receiver that can be used for pointing.

>>380520842
And when I say traditional, I mean standard dual analog FPS controls.

>>380520920
Don't be stupid. You don't need IR for pointing. You can use Gyro.

>>380517365
I've been thinking about this a lot and looking at the Switch I think it'll either be motion controls with the joycon or full tablet dual analog controls. Either would be pretty good desu

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>>380519591
>The Varia doesn't look like shit anymore
>still have the ZS from Other M

God I would so much fucking prefer dual sticks over motion controls. I hope they would give us the options for both though.

>>380521628
They won't do mandatory motion controls, but Metroid Prime 1 and 2 weren't dual stick shooters. The c-stick selected weapons.

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>>380517365

>So do you think Nintendo will finally put real dual stick shooter controls in Prime?

I fucking hope not. Twin stick aiming is literally just mouse aiming but shit. Having a lock-on so that the main focus was on movement and mechanics is the best decision they could have made.

>They wouldn't possibly make it "Hold R to free look with LS" plus lock on again would they?

I honestly really hope so.

>can you ignore 15+years of console FPS controls?

Mouse aiming would make literally every single twin stick console FPS better. All twin stick shooters have ridiculous aim assist for this very reason; the developers are openly admitting that the controls are shit and need artificial assistance to be playable.

Mouse aiming would NOT have made Metroid Prime better. Metroid Prime took advantage of the platform it was on and the controller it had to come up with those excellent controls that wouldn't have been as good on any other platform.

Take your twin sticks and shove them both up your ass. Don't try to shit on my Metroid games.

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Which one?

>>380522086
I hoping for dual stick controls plus lock on.

>>380522086
Holocausted.

Dual stick aiming is shoe on head tier.

>>380522479
Prime 1

>>380522479
Any Samus other than Smash 4 looks like shit, second place goes to Zero Mission. Other M isn't too bad, I guess, but Smash 4 perfected the design
Prime 1 looks like a tranny

>>380522479
1>Hunters>3>2

Prime 2 ZSS looks like a blow up doll and clashes with the artstyle of the game completely.

>>380517365
I hope that the game uses waggle with joycons honestly.

>>380522479
Prime 2 or Hunters.

>>380517365
>So do you think Nintendo will finally put real dual stick shooter controls in Prime?
You mean like they did a decade ago with Prime 3?

>>380519189
>Squishy
>Metroid
I might actually buy an Amiibo.

>>380523826
Where is the 2nd analog stick on a wiimote and nunchuk

>>380523932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BCPx2SX7Hk

5:54

>>380520673
>>380520842
Gyro will be an option and probably default. They'd be dumb to lock it down to only gyro or analong sticks when Switch proves it works both ways

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>>380517365
>Metroid Prime 4 releases
>Controls utilize the joycon's motion control more than anything
>Analog's available, but extremely handicapped compared to motion control

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>>380522479
Hunters best girl. The only one there that isn't leagues better than Other M or Smash 4 is Prime 2 anyway.

>>380522086
Mouse aiming but shit is still better than tank controls.

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>>380524228
>Sakamoto forces Other M ZS shit into the remake
>is wearing a shirt with the somewhat infamous Samus portrayal from the American Super Metroid guide

I'm getting mixed messages here.

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>>380522479

Why is Nintendo one of the few companies that doesn't allow you to remap the controls?

>>380524379
>Analog's available, but extremely handicapped compared to motion control
Isn't that just fundamental to the nature of both?

>>380524668
Why wouldn't Sakamoto like the comic that gave Samus emotion powered armor, being obsessed with "the baby", and had her being saved by a man? That's what that Samus portrayal represents.

>>380525071
I'm tired, but like compare motion control and regular control in Arms, and I can see Nintendo doing something like that for Metroid Prime 4

>>380524053
The Wii remote, ya dingus.

Why would you want to go back to a stick when motion controls do the same thing, but better?

>>380525357
I think I make a distinction between ARMS and Metroid Prime controls here. The analog controls in ARMS are worse primarily because they designed the ability to move the character and the punches around the motion controls for ARMS, which causes problems with analog needing a way to move both at the same time. They probably could've done better, I think, but I also don't think the non-motion controls are handicapped for any other reason than the game having more controllable bits than the controller can really handle with just the now standard button/stick layout.

But with Metroid, unless they do something really nutty, we're essentially just discussing gyro aiming versus right thumbstick aiming. Gyro's pretty much always going to be easier to get more fine control with than the stick. I suppose if they base the difficulty of free aiming on that, it might gimp the stick, but Prime also made heavy use of lock ons when aiming during hectic situations was important. I don't really see it having the same problem as ARMS.

>>380522479
1>hunters>3>2

>>380519591
I like it. I wish we had a different ZS design though, Fusion is still the best, though I like Hunters too.

>>380522086
You can't seriously believe not being able to strafe is superior to strafing in a fucking FPS.
>Metroid Prime took advantage of the platform it was on and the controller it had
And why shouldn't they make 4 do the same thing now that we have two good sticks?

>>380517365
Hopefully it'll have dual stick controls and motion controls like the trilogy, I'll fucking kill myself if it has gyro.

>>380522479
I don't think I've ever seen Hunters Samus before. I'll go with that.

>>380522479
Prime 1 is the best as always

>>380517365
>real dual stick shooter controls
why can't consoles just support a fucking mouse

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>>380517365
It's going to have some kind of motion aiming. Probably hold a button to bring the arm canon up and move the switch/controller around to aim. Think the way bows work in BoTW.
If there is a gimmick option, nintendo will always take it.

>>380527702
>I'll fucking kill myself if it has the best alternative to KB+M out there
So, you'll kill yourself for having such shit taste? That's good, I guess.

>>380528665
I find gyro isn't as good as point was.

>>380517365
Finally a Samus Amiibo that I actually want to buy.

>>380525123
That picture is from a Nintendo Power guide or article, something of the sort. It has nothing to do with the Metroid manga. It also misinterpreted information from Metroid II, which gives those 6'3 and 198 lbs pounds figures for Samus inside the power suit.

>>380522479
Hunters.

Is the switch joycon capable of wii-style fps aiman? I'd like that to be an option.

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>>380528964
What manga?

>>380522479
Prime > Prime 3 > Hunters > POWER GAP > Prime 2

>>380528847
I mean it's no mouse, sure but gyro is really good when used in conjunction with traditional stick aiming. Sticks to get you in the ball park, gyro for the minute corrections

>>380528268
Blame piratefags.

>>380522479
Prime all the way. She's a fucking BABE

>>380529212
Oh, right, this thing exists. I thought you were thinking of the shitty manga that came out around Zero Mission. Disregard that, I suck cocks.

>>380528085
Switch has an excuse of being a handheld and also having a viable alternative in gyro controls. If we say KBM is 10 and twin sticks are 0, gyro is 8.5.

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>>380527652

You can strafe in Metroid Prime.

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>>380524668
>>Sakamoto forces Other M ZS shit into the remake
Am I a bad person if I like the melee counter mechanic and the other action-ish tweaks to the combat?

I mean, as much as I love classic Metroid, the combat has always been pretty basic.

>>380529189
Actually, gyro is built into the joycons and also the pro controller.

>>380529734
Seems like it will be easily abused.

>>380524668
>>Sakamoto forces Other M ZS shit into the remake
I keep seeing this mentioned but haven't seen any footage of the zero suit

>>380528665
I really like using the gyro typing on my Dualshock 4 but honestly none of the games I've played with gyro aiming on my 3DS or Wii U felt good to me, like the sensitivity was off. But then again both the 3DS and Gamepad need you to focus on what you're holding unlike a Joycon so should work way better there.

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>>380522479
>Prime 2

>>380530017
In the treehouse stream Samus dies a couple of times and you see the suit explode, revealing Other M ZSS.

>>380529649
Only with lock on. Any enemy that requires actual aim for you to hit a target requires you to stop what you're doing, stand still, and aim. Being able to freely move and aim at the same time is infinitely superior. And calm your autism because that doesn't mean they have to completely remove lock on.

>>380530017
You can see it when they die on the Treehouse stream.

>>380523497
No Prime 1 just looks like an attempt at making a semi-realistic white woman instead of an anime blob face like in all the other games. In Smash shes literally just a Fire Emblem character holding a gun.

>>380530209
How can you even tell that its Other M' ZS in particular?

>>380530580
They kept the wedge heels, which were removed in Smash Bros and that Monster Hunter tie-in.

>>380517365

Without a doubt. Ever since the Wii Nintendo has been implementing controls that allow you to move your character as well as shoot. You can nry Metroid Prime 4 is going to use gyro, and now with the Switch they always have standard controls as an option, and the game has to be playable in portable mode. WW HD had dual analog in first person, Botw had dual analog, heck even Mario Odyssey has dual analog controls for when Mario is a tank.

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>>380530662
Well, Smash just replaced the high heel flats with laser heels.

>>380528268
Well motion aiming with gyro rocks, so I don't see a problem with that.

>>380517365
They confirmed Prime 4 will be 3rd person.

Just fucking give us all options:

Dual analog
Gyro
And wii pointing if the switch is capable of it

Then everyone should be happy except for the autist who thinks the gamecube controls are best. He doesn't get anything.

>>380531619
Where/when?

>>380524668
That fag who was shitting on Benimaru's Samus was probably BTFOed by him wearing the shirt.

>>380531357
While I hate the heels entirely, at least this was slightly more palatable than Other M. Unfortunately it looks like we're stuck with the wedges for now.

>>380528665
Gyro is possibly the worst-
>he's a pc shitter
Nevermind your taste doesn't matter anyway

>>380531802
never

>>380530260
They have gyro controls now, so there is no need to worry about that except in handheld mode.

>>380522479
Hunters
>>380524384
Best taste.

>>380532052
There is zero reason for them to not include both dual analog and gyro control schemes.

>>380529320
>gyro for corrections
Why the fuck do people keep saying this? I'll tell you what reallt happens, sticks get you right where you need to be and then gyro swings your camera all fucking over the place and ruins your aim.

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I wouldn't mind the visuals as much if was just a true 2d plane, not that weird 2.5 D thing. If done right even models can look as good as sprites.

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>>380531357
Didn't like the laser heels either but at least it was better than the wedge heels.

Is it possible that Sakomoto kept the Other M suit because he's salty about the reception of Other M?

>>380532194

As far as I know, no Switch game has forced you to use motion controls. It needs to be able to be played in handheld mode and they're more understanding now that people don't want to be forced to use motion controls. Games like 1 2 Switch are obviously an exception though.

>>380532412
> kept the Other M suit
Where are you even getting this information?

>>380532713
The Treehouse stream. You see it when Samus dies.

>>380532917
Can I get a link with timestamp?

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>>380532713
As per series standard, when Samus becomes kill, her power suit explodes and you briefly see what's underneath.

>>380533030
Not him but does the wedge heels look smaller than her Other M version?

>>380533030
How can you even tell that it's the same as Other M from that? It could just as easily be the Zero Mission design or another redesign.

>>380533249
The color scheme looks specifically like Other M's, the heels look smaller from what we have seen for now tho

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>>380533194
Better angle. They're the same size heel.

>>380520673
>>380524257
>>380520920
>>380520842
I think Nintendo is actually forced to make the game play using only sticks and buttons since it is expected to, while using the switch in handheld mode, so even if they do have some control scheme with motion controls in mind, twin sticks is not out of the question.

I actually really like how prime aim works tho

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>>380532713
I hate annoying fags like you. Just like the retards who kept saying "RETRO IS DOING MP4" even though at the end of the trailer montage their name wasn't shown.

Here
https://youtu.be/Dl7XWBtDAqk?t=1776
Even with Theresa moan.

Maybe they'll change it but it looks like wedge heels

>>380533384
Well at least they fixed her height (with heels).

>Muh metroid
get a life nintenbabies

>>380522479
prime 1 lul

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>>380533194
Maybe in that screenshot, but in motion they look the same as Other M.

>>380533249
Because the Zero Mission version is completely different in its design aside from the pink glowing shit and that it's blue.

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>>380523497
>realistic white woman looks worse than the slutty bimbo in sm4sh

>>380533559
Don't the presence of heels automatically mean that is she shorter than she should be?

>>380522479
prime is most fitting for her image and has aged the best
hunters is a close second

>>380522479
echoes samus looks like a blow up doll
what where they thinking

>>380533847
>>380533873
>realistic
>fitting

And thus Samus being a woman is lost on yet more idiots

>>380534076
They had another model more closely aligned to Metroid 1 but ZM had come out so they were forced to whip up a new model in the ZS that consequently looked like shit.

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>>380534161
>Samus being a woman is lost on yet more idiots

what the fuck does this shit even mean?

>>380533691
>>380533030
>>380533384
All these screenshots show is that the ZS still has heels, why do you automatically assume that it's the exact same design based on that alone?

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>>380534834
That's the most iconic element.

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>>380534834
Because the rest of it also matches up? I mean even if it was the Smash suit, that would still be shit. If there must be a Zero Suit, go with the version that is unquestionably the best one.

>>380534608
He's retarded

>>380533860
Nah, it would most likely mean she's about her Zero Mission height suitless.

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>>380535459
Why does that makes any sense? Assuming ther Varia is 6'3", and that Samus is around 6'1" in every game except Other M, even if she wears a 3 inch heel she'd be taller than her suit. The fact that she's wearing heels at all means she's in the 5 foot range, unless you're saying that the Varia suit is actually like 6'7.

>>380536207
Could be but I guess best example is to wait until the game releases then we can measure her up against her suit.

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>>380529297
only correct answer

It's weird that ITT most people are saying prime 1 is the best but in most Metroid threads over the last few years it's felt like the majority of people were shitting on her prime 1 design. I thought I was in the minority.

>>380536207
The varia suit is definitely like 7 ft tall regardless

Gonna replay Prime, should I go with Trilogy or Gamecube for one and two? Trilogy version of 1 doesn't have the Fusion unlockables, right?

>>380538096
It does, but it uses the WiiConnect24 method of unlocking them Prime 3 had used, which is no longer functional.
You can however, just download a save file with it already unlocked.

>>380532217
I think you're holding your controller wrong.

What I find funny is that Sakamoto was able to get Mercury Steam to make more realistic graphics and serious designs for Samus Returns but Tanabe allows Next Level Games to make Metroid look like Chibi shit on the same system.

>>380538096
You can unlock the fusion suit in the game by using credits

>>380526252
It's still not dual-analog stick controls, you retard. I agree with you that Prime 3's controls are the best, but wtf are you talking about.

I wish they could go back to prime 3's motion aiming, but that's basically impossible, I guess gyro would be good enough
It wouldn't be good enough for pikmin though

>>380527702
Trilogy had Dual-Stick?

>>380529748
He's talking about motion control, not gyro.

>>380517365
>So do you think Nintendo will finally put real dual stick shooter controls in Prime? They wouldn't possibly make it "Hold R to free look with LS" plus lock on again would they?
I hate dual stick FPS on consoles because they control like shit, Metroid Prime did it better than everything else imo

>>380533409
I like it too. The game was built around it,
so it is fine

>>380525123
RUSE CONFIRMED
SAKAMOTO CONFIRMED FOR KOJIMA
SILENT HILLS CONFIRMED FOR METROID
CARAMEL BTFO

>>380517365
>dual stick shooter
>wanting fps instead of fpa
>>>/out/

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>>380524893
>ZM based on Metroid Samus
>For exception of Prime, Samus ages through the games
That would be such a neat concept, altough I will alway preffer Samus to be the Prime 1 look and maybe in her late 20's.
If she did be around 37 at Prime she would probably be about 50 in Fusion.

>>380548947
I like the concept of an older Samus on the run from the federation, and it going full corrupt and reversing all propaganda to paint Samus as a villain.

Then a younger, idealistic Federation gal with a prototype power suit goes on a mission, and encounters 50-60 years-old Samus, and ideals clash ensues.

>>380522479

Zero mission>Prime>Hunters>Fusion>>>Prime 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prime 3>Other M

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>>380522479
Melee

It'll be forced gyro with the joycons

>>380522479
they're all ugly

but at least prime 1 doesn't look like she has down's

>>380517365
Even Federation Force had dual sticks if you had the option, so I think Prime 4 will be in a good spot.

>>380529901
It's all linked to a power meter, except maybe the counter

>>380534161
i am kinda confused by what you mean, sorry for the late reply
i just think that the beautiful and strong soldier image fits her better than looking like a bimbo. i dont really care about realism

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>>380517365
>wanting stick controls

>>380522086
I disagree from the deepest part of my soul

>>380528268
The gyro aiming in BOTW and Spatoon is GOAT, so I can't complain.

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>>380522479

>>380522086
What if it worked like this?
>move and aim like you would in any other FPS
>Lock on points you in the general direction of the enemy, will still hit fairly accurately
>have to use gyro for precision aiming, such as aiming for specific body parts

Gyro aiming is the best shit if you ever played Splatoon.

Lets me use both my sticks while having freedom of aiming not locked to a grid.

Also

>Metroid Prime 4 has a chance of having online multiplayer like Metroid Prime Hunters

I can't fucking wait to see a Nintendo Direct of later info and gameplay of it.

>>380551986
God I can't believe there are people with taste as bad as yours

>>380552390
This is the worst fucking idea anybody has ever had

>>380549525
>tfw the best Samus face is from a game from fucking 2001